Blood and Fire edition.
>FAQs & General Info (Updated November 8th, 2015)
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>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
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>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Age of Charlemagne DLC -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOy63UZXvM&feature=youtu.be
>Warhammer
Campaign Gameplay Walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJUWImJUZrU
Twelve Days of Festag - http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Twelve_Days_of_Festag
>Launcher Trick
Attila is an unoptimized mess, try this launcher fix to try and improve performance.
Launch Rome 2 then launch Attila instead from the Total War launcher. FPS can increase anywhere between 1 to 25.
Previous Thread: >>128138673
FIRST FOR I WILL FUCKING KILL MYSELF IF I DON'T GET MY FUCKING FACTIONS
>>128359520
Don't worry, anon. It's coming soon.
Ai, here's some fire lads
only 106 days to go!
>>128359520
Any bets on what the new faction will be?
>>128359638
YOUVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR FUCKING MONTHS YOU NIGGERS
guys I want to play Third Age but...
it's just so boring now
how do I recapture the magic
maybe I should finally finish a gondor campaign for once
WE HUNGER FOR BLOOD AND BATTLE
>>128359916
Jews
OVER THE ALPS, PERHAPS?
>>128360113
HE WOULD LOSE HALF OF HIS ARMY FROM ATTRITION ALONE! (laughing senate in the back)
>>128360223
THE OTHER HALF WOULD DESERT HIM!
>>128360075
WARRIORS
EAGA FOR BLOOD
>>128359921
ARE YOU THAT SAME AUTIST ASKING FOR XCOM 2 ART BOOK TO SHIP FASTER
>>128360325
OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD
>>128360429
NO I JUST WANT MY FUCKING FACTIONS
THEY FUCKING PROMISED
ALL ROMANS GET OUT NOW
>>128360827
I have removed romans before
>>128360827
BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ
>>128360325
COME
SIT
>>128361043
haha
Oriental empires when
>>128359916
Arm*nians
>>128362051
anime can fuck off
>>128362106
nicely meme'd
>damn archers! they never hit anytaaahhhh!!
>you and your big mouth
>at least with arrows you can see them, slingstones no chance
easterners have great lines in Attila
>>128362051
Honestly, very soon. They only need to translate it into englishu
www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?613339-HAN-ZHI-SHANG-v1-03-Released!
>>128362051
[yawn meme]
So will chaos have "skulls collected" and "blood harvested" meters?
Then as you get more and more of each you can unlock new favours and shit from the Corn Flake
Mildly disappointed with how easy Musulaman conquest of Spain was. Ended up with a triarchy of Cordoba, Zaragoza and Barcelona (maybe whatever 4 is in greek archy since I think there's that south-eastern coastal one) who are all bffs. The other three are buffers with Charlemagne's vassals so I'm left wondering where to go. Either eastward to an apparent Lombard dominion over just about all of Italy or just get military access and march forth to jihad.
>>128364848
Spread Islam to the British Isles.
>>128364848
Anything but Charlemange is easy in AoC.
>>128364971
Charlemange and Westphalia*
>>128364971
How do I git gud with Westphalia
>>128359902
I'm actually starting to get a bit hyped to be honest. My usual historicalfag anti-CA cynicism is starting to strain under my desire to summon a flaming tornado. Caesar couldn't do that.
>>128360429
Fuck off gook, you were the only /twg/ person who browsed /xcg/, so I know it's you.
>>128365141
Convert to Christianity, since it is the true faith.
>>128362051
It's looks terrible though anon.
>>128365862
Scipio Africanus did it. He could do anything.
>>128366006
I browse /xcg/ sometimes too but I am not gook.
>>128359418
Is there a way to ram enemy ships - without trying to board them? or perhaps a strategy to "fast click" or cancel a move order or some shit?
This is in context to R2 and Attila (I have no actual had naval battles in ATW yet but I am going to assume not much has changed).
>>128366272
>tfw Gook is dead.
>There are people in /twg/ who browse more than one general.
>There will never be another movie night.
>The memes of production have dried up.
What happened?
>>128366783
There's a button in the ability bar for ram-capable units that lets you switch between boarding and ramming.
>>128366783
In Attila the only ships that can ram are specialised ramming ships, they have a skeleton crew of like 10 men and are pretty vulnerable to everything.
A pretty crazy change from Rome II.
>>128366896
The meme market is dominated by /pol/ now ever since /tv/ established the doctrine of meme magic.
Buy your memes while you can however because 2016 is shaping up to be a bull of bull markets.
>>128366896
What about "anime can fuck off"?
That's a recent meme
>>128367535
They're all low quality second hand memes though.
I'm hoping with Warhammer and the face animations we get some high quality original stuff, i'm predicting a spike in surprised goblin faces and humans running away from angry skeletons.
>>128367535
no it's not
>>128367712
Would you say it's somewhat of a classic?
>>128367053
Ramming ships are the best. You can just give them a target, use their ability, and you'll win almost every naval battle.
>>128366896
Things have changed dramatically. I was absent from /twg/ for over a year. Then Atilla released and a friend convinced me atilla is good and R2 is severely patched and not shit, so I got back and the in depth history discussions about overarm/underarm etc andfriendposting was gone.
>These niggers want me to pay them to not wipe them off the face of the Earth
Part of me wants to raze their capital, but I know I could use it as a launch point for a campaign in the Middle East.
Oh and to the guy who picked on me for siding with Rome, Rome is expanding literally alongside me, we've been assisting eachother. I think things will get more tense once we start pushing into Europa proper instead of cleansing the shitskin lands.
I'm still keeping my eyes on them regardless and have fleet ready to sack Rome withing a moment's notice.
>>128368001
As much as I love the tripfag revolution, which seems to be going on perfectly since it happened, I do miss having a central figure to rally behind like Gook. He made sure to keep discussions focused and always seemed to provide quality content when things went slow.
Still, fuck tripfags though. It'd rather have a good quality thread without them than an excellent quality thread with them.
>>128368318
t. Gook
>>128368583
What can I say? I was a Gook fan.
Doesn't mean I don't fucking hate tripfags. Chinkyboy was rare.
>>128366783
I don't think that is how Romans wore their armor.
>>128368318
I felt the tripfags were sometimes more necessary than not. In order to keep the thread alive and the discussion going. Even though one tripfag post got some number of shiposts. Things were different. Maybe it was better, maybe not. My memory is not that reliable. It's a damn shame archive.moe died.
>>128368115
You don't have the strength to defeat Rome. Only Axum can do it.
>>128368934
Those little bastards were already trying to incite rebellion in one of my cities near them.
GUESS I'M MARCHING BACK DOWN TO WIPE THEM OUT
>Multiple responses required
>Had to put the captcha in almost ten times
FUCK YOU GOOK
>>128368318
>quality content such as osprey reposts
>>128369469
They will wipe you out first. Axum is strong.
>1.8k for me to not wipe them out
>Look at treasury
Fucking pitiful
>>128366783
>having a perfect area to get stabbed in your chest
>>tfw nobody ever draws your fetish of historical accurate armour on girls
Any idea what the new faction could be? I don't know if I should start a new campaign now, or wait.
>>128372713
>women
>armor
>historically accurate
>>128372818
>reading comprehension
Never was talking if girls ever wore armour
Post features/changes you want in TW:
-Hit-and-run stance for cav. Have them charge, and then automatically return to the spot they were at when you issued the charge order.
-Less control over army composition. Hear me out:
In association with a more detailed campaign map experience, your army composition would be decided largely by what buildings and tech you have. You'd have full choice over only a few units per army - the rest would be automatically chosen for you when you hit a "raise levy" button or something.
It'd be hard to get it right, but I'd like to have to work around what the game gives me - Even as a wealthy country, my armies wouldn't just be composed of the most elite units. Germanic Spear Masters would be the elite core of the army, while I'd have to make do with a line of more regular spearmen.
I suppose you could accomplish something similar by just placing limits per army on how many of each type of unit you can recruit, but I would love nothing more than a Total War with a campaign that works like a mix between CKII and Civ, and has you make do with some shitty sub-optimal armies even into the late game.
When will historians finally recognize that Hannibal was black?
>>128374695
All your ideas are terrible and I'm glad you are in no position to make decisions that influence future Total War games.
"Gold brings out the evil in men, give us your gold to prevent that evil in yourselves"
Why do people constantly ask for handouts in Rome 2?
>>128374945
I never played Rome 2 but from playing other Total Wars I can tell you that the AI will notice that you have a ton of shekels and ask you for handouts because you are so rich
>>128374839
>charge micro is a good thing
>I just want another boring stomp-the-AI-in-shitty-campaign-maps-with-impossible-to-lose-battles game
My ideas are objectively the best, and I am personally the only hope for the future of Total War. It is to CA's great misfortune that they will not immediately hire me as their new Lead Designer.
>>128375136
And unless I deem them useful to me I don't give them a single cent.
>>128374945
Once you are rich, people will ask for coin for the stupidest things.
And I'm guessing it scales with how much you have?
>>128376374
Yes.
The AI can tell "this man has 10 million shekels in the bank" so they'll ask you for 1 million shekels to do a thing they would do for free
As far as I know it doesn't fuck your diplomacy in that the AI will only move their ass if you shower them in money, they'll still go do shit like normal but they try and ask for money from time to time, only that they offer you some trivial bullshit as exchange
>>128376374
Never had them ask more than 10K from me, even as I gained more coin.
Hey guys, should I start a war with Baktria, in Rome 2. I basically conquered everyone with the exception of Sparta, Athens and Macedon as allies. Baktria somehow ate up all the lands in the East and has landmass about equal 1/3 of mine. Oh and I'm Rome.
I'm kinda scared as I have to many armies and my treasury can only sustain them a bit longer. And I do really bad in the desert due to my men suffering attrition. Proof is that I went up against Carthage in the African desert and got annihilated by having no men left from the desert trek. Should I launch a full scale invasion on Baktria and hit then hard and fast with my armies then decommission them once I launched the initial offensive?
>>128374695
more ebane memes
>Uhnonymoose declares war on its neighbors leddit, 9gig, and Shitaku as soon as the game starts, getting conquered in 3 turns
>Shitaku starts at war with the rest of the map but gets shitloads of money from being a client of Humble Brokers and their alliance with the NSA
>4chins constantly suffering from civil unrest, rebellions, and fuckery from its vassals /b/, /v/, /a/, /pol/, and /mlp/
>Obama-Rama wages war with everyone it borders except [unnamed organization]
>Baneposter rebellions, Nazi uprisings, and chimpouts sweep specific areas of the map at random
>>128376606
>trivial bullshit
Your offers:
-Open Borders
-Robotics
-Quantum Mechanics
-Xenobiology
-Your best non-capital city
-538 energy
-17 energy per turn (30 turns)
Their Offers
1 Favour
>>128377712
DO NOT ATTACK
>>128378018
OR WE WILL ATTACK
Getting a little bored of TW, which game should I play now; EU, CK2, CIV
>>128379147
Live your life anon
>>128379458
>>128379458
>>128367685
Let's not kid ourselves, it'll just be our usual goldfish soldaten.
>>128379147
Victoria 2, naturally.
>>128381406
>you will never tease napoopan about his fetishes ever again
>Playing MP all day
>Eventually can't join a single game without being kicked for being 2stronk
>Even in matchmaking people alt F4 instead of go another round
who /avataroffear/
>>128381406
no anime in /twg/
>>128379147
You should buy Stellaris.
t. Johan
Can the White Huns settle or are they like the Attila huns in being all nomad every day?
>>128382596
The "All Diplomacy Options" Mod from Dresden lets Nomads settle, but thats it IIRC.
>>128382596
They are like the regular Huns and cannot normally settle.
I'm not sure on /vg/ decorum, if I can find the torrent file that I got the entire Osprey collection from (60gb), should it be added to the OP?
>>128383541
Download the thing, upload all the images in an imgur album and then we will put it in the OP
>>128382913
Gotcha thanks.
The best thing just happened in Arena, all of my units died except for my general and he was walking around the base like a sad sack of shit. When enemies passed by him they would kill the other routed teammates and not him.
Will we ever see another man like Hannibal, Scipio, or Napoleon?
>>128383801
I have it on my computer, give me about a year to upload sixty gigs onto imgur
>>128384414
It would be pretty neat if you went and did that
>>128374837
As soon as they recognize Teddy Roosevelt was Black: never
>>128374945
Dumb AI they should work around. Once you have money factions begin to extort you for things they would otherwise do for free, including bid for peace against an existential threat. It should be the opposite. Once you have that much money, you're powerful enough to just exterminate people rather than deal with bullshit. I'd suggest having no extortion at the opening levels of diplomacy, but have allies begin extorting you for war declarations and further alliances as your money and imperium go up. Or just drop all the extortion stuff because it's annoying and nonsensical.
>>128384413
>Hannibal
>LETS TAKE MY ELEPHANTS THROUGH THE ALPS LMAO
>WHOOOPS HALF OF THEM DIED
>BRO YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS LETS VENTURE INTO THIS SWAMP
>WHOOOPS I LOST MY EYE LMAO
>HIHI LETS RUN AROUND ITALY FOR TEN YEARS DOING LITERALLY NOTHING
>DUDE REMEMBER THAT ONE BATTLE LMAO
>HAVING ACHIEVED NOTHING ITS TIME TO GO BACK TO AFRICA I GUESS LOL
>WHOOPS I LOST THE BATTLE
>WHOOPS I LOST EVERYTHING LMAO
What do you do while playing TW?
I usually watch documentaries.
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>128384993
Crossing the Alps was quite the feat, even for the great Hannibal Barca.
>>128384413
Do you specifically as generals or as men?
>>128385059
I masturbate to my cav running down fleeing soldiers.
>>128384974
>the AI should ask you for money when you have none
>as soon as you have a lot of money they should stop because MUH REALISM AND FANFICTION HEADCANON
>>128384598
Can I add previous uploads to an album? The only way I'll do it is if I upload individual books according to my whimsy and we can add them to a single collection.
>>128385213
More towards generals, but I was going to go with both.
>>128385319
aw yis i love that shit so much
its the fucking best
>>128384993
Seriously, why didn't that faggot push his advantage?
We could all be speaking Canaanite in a Carthaginian Empire that explored the new world before Christ, and never fell because the center of power was safe from barbar shit invasions.
>>128384974
I think you don't understand what's happening.
The AI isn't "extorting" you.
The AI sees you have a lot of money, so the AI asks you to give away some of your wealth.
The AI is compelled to not just ask for free money but to offer you something in return.
The AI will still conduct diplomacy as normal, there is no "Because you are rich I will now only do shit for you if you give me a ten thousand shekels"
>>128385475
Probably not as generals until the next societal collapse loosens the control governments have on militaries and borders can once again be redrawn. Give it at least a century.
As men, politicians and businessmen in the third world will unite their races in ways people could never have imagined, even Tito only did his thing about 75 years ago and he was Napoopy-tier to me.
>>128385640
Maybe he was scared? Maybe he felt like the Romans were luring him in a trap, even after he fucking dominated their armies several times. Unfortunately for him, Scipio didn't seem to share that fear and happily pushed his advantages when he could.
![2DD202A00F9E11856B797A3A8DDA8DBA9C88EDB7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dkcufLz.jpg "2DD202A00F9E11856B797A3A8DDA8DBA9C88EDB7[1].jpg")
>>128385957
>I don't want to besiege Rome! What if it's all a devious trap by the Romans to have me eliminate their empire, just to die from excitement over actually accomplishing something!
>>128385640
Hannibal was probs an autist that could only process the world in a series of lines moving in lines against other lines. Or straight-up imperialism wasn't part of the Carthaginian spirit and it never occurred to him to just actually destroy Rome and Punicize it rather than metaphorically destroy it by making it subservient to Carthage.
![A7162B386ADFF4DEEFD69E506AA6D41AB5815F40[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qCGVqPh.jpg "A7162B386ADFF4DEEFD69E506AA6D41AB5815F40[1].jpg")
>>128386053
>>128386094
Rome's main advantage was that it could always get more soldiers. Hannibal probably worried that he would march to Rome, only to be met by a force double the size of the force at Cannae, and no way to entrap them.
Or he was just a fucking autist who thought making the Italian cities rebel was a better idea.
![3FB5BBFCD789890D64E3B5EF156BE1A8F5BAA338[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/acwY0oP.jpg "3FB5BBFCD789890D64E3B5EF156BE1A8F5BAA338[1].jpg")
>>128386259
>>128386154
I prefer the autist idea, though
Imagine Hannibal loudly, wordlessly whining at Macdonalda because they can't give him a Pastati wax doll.
Hannibal had a hard life
>>128385640
>the center of power was safe from barbar shit invasions
But Carthage fell to Vandals, Arabs, and even Normans at one point.
![6CCE38CC13BD3051EE2A4AFCEC89428D35678B12[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5j8NloI.jpg "6CCE38CC13BD3051EE2A4AFCEC89428D35678B12[1].jpg")
>>128386629
How do I into Carthage ?
Playing CAC ,
But it's the same in Vanilla and dei, most of your settlements start off pretty deep in the negative public order. And rome usually declares war withen 5 turns , so by turn 10 your fighting both rome and several rebellions
>>128386738
Hannibal would go on /r9k/ to complain about alphas/chads/normies/whatever /r9k/ uses now like Africanus.
![5B71C25D7514623B5FB403407174A7479174A459[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FLvcSQI.jpg "5B71C25D7514623B5FB403407174A7479174A459[1].jpg")
>>128386791
![C85C5D8A0822B9E59EC3C3A57EB6B9FCB1F33E85[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ENczLIl.jpg "C85C5D8A0822B9E59EC3C3A57EB6B9FCB1F33E85[1].jpg")
>>128386964
>>128386784
But that Carthage was a Romanized Carthage.
>>128386648
Or the real reason Hamilcar held him over a sacrificial pit was because Hannibal bit his mother when she tried to take away his blocks
![AF3B540B6BB216CCB848481214EA3255BF296316[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WzfsyE0.jpg "AF3B540B6BB216CCB848481214EA3255BF296316[1].jpg")
>>128387161
>>128386784
I'm operating under the theory that Rome was greatly weakened first by having to operate costly defenses along the massive Germanic borders, and then having Italy get overrun.
To take Carthage, the Vandals had to move through Germania, Gaul, Spain, and then cross into Africa. You don't think Rome would have stopped them if Africa was the center of their empire?
Normans took the city for a decade and then got kicked out by locals who couldn't compare to mega-Carthage.
Arabs would be the only big threat, but the Arab empire was only a result of the militarization of the Arab tribes due to the endless Roman-Persian wars that made use of Arabs on both sides.
Maybe something like that would happen with Carthage anyway, or maybe Persia would just have an easier time hitting their capital.
But dammit man, I'm fantasizing, don't ruin my dream.
>English shits marauding through Spain
Even moors are better.
OK, back to my Asturias campaign to civilize the English barbars with my dick.
![4EB1CF2D3F68D29EDA4B5F76EE4306E44B7CF7A6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8ZLtJMH.jpg "4EB1CF2D3F68D29EDA4B5F76EE4306E44B7CF7A6[1].jpg")
>>128387525
The fuck did you just say to me you stupid bitch?
>>128387342
The reason Hamilcar made Hannibal swear to be an enemy of Rome was because he was trying to weaponize his son's autism.
![916879903CBC62FD536FC4B0CDD675DB31C37DC2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yVmDgRs.jpg "916879903CBC62FD536FC4B0CDD675DB31C37DC2[1].jpg")
>>128387751
Fuckin have that love.
>>128387751
vete a la mierda, hijo de puta ingles
nuestro armada va a violaros esta vez
![E80D0489781AA1669D68A7B0432BEE92EECF8462[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L1Jl76D.jpg "E80D0489781AA1669D68A7B0432BEE92EECF8462[1].jpg")
>>128388353
And you ya silly tart
![9C7ED4DBA83D53ABF283DB26B9ED0BA5F272C787[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ITwOLgd.jpg "9C7ED4DBA83D53ABF283DB26B9ED0BA5F272C787[1].jpg")
>>128388537
![211BB489908CEBF86FA3AA89CB0176C130C8A2BA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WCwfba2.jpg "211BB489908CEBF86FA3AA89CB0176C130C8A2BA[1].jpg")
>>128389307
>>128389307
What faction, just installed Attila and I love their gearplease
>>128389534
Mercia. Age of Charles the Mang.
![36343C74B72A022EE32DB3EB69A7C3A12A4DF1B8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CfnpIXZ.jpg "36343C74B72A022EE32DB3EB69A7C3A12A4DF1B8[1].jpg")
>>128389526
>>128389605
So I have to use the DLC to play them? Alright, thanks
![DAA0E3DC95A1DE51007EC29EB142FD83FDEDDC0C[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/opJnaU2.jpg "DAA0E3DC95A1DE51007EC29EB142FD83FDEDDC0C[2].jpg")
>>128389698
>>128389783
Yes, Age of Charlemagne is a different campaign
![9684BD5BAFCEF0179EBB9007DEB58EABBE6F5EA6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1ZUKJlg.jpg "9684BD5BAFCEF0179EBB9007DEB58EABBE6F5EA6[1].jpg")
>>128389875
>>128389783
Also I'm using a mod on the steam workshop called "a
>>128390050
>Steam Workshop
Eeeeeehhh RIP then
>>128390050
"a
A great mod.
>>128390050
kek I had my post on the auto-post timer.
"A Darker Age" It's a recolour to make to faction colours not so fucking bright.
>>128390149
You can download Workshop mods and get them to work on non-steam copies by editing the mods with Notepad ++. I did it for Rome 2 so I'm pretty sure it works for Attila.
Why do Germans always get the best color schemes in Total War? Germanocentricism?
>dat Burgandy on Germanics/Suebi/Suevi
oo baby
what's the story behind the WRE's flag? ERE is the good old fashioned aquila, but I've never seen the WRE's bird thing before.
>>128388196
He told his son the only way the world would be organized if Rome belonged to Carthage. It was all that was needed.
>>128385381
imgur doesn't take whole .pdfs so fuck that. I found it on rutracker, put text into google translate if you can't figure out what to do.
>>128391279
Weaponized autism.
![FCA235B8CA278968E3C0E83E75617BACA175D71D[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HnHFs6z.jpg "FCA235B8CA278968E3C0E83E75617BACA175D71D[1].jpg")
>>128391641
Carthaginian military recipes used to be the most famous and delicious in the world. After the third time he tried their most mild dish and spat it out while crying, spending hours snuggling his Dido hugpillow to soothe himself, Hannibal demanded everyone be forced to eat sweetened grain and milk for the rest of his campaigns. Their reputation never recovered.
>>128388537
>>128389307
>>128389526
>>128389698
>celebrating the slaughter of women
Typical English barbarism.
Sorry that you can't build anything of value yourself, but must you tear down the works of accomplished, civilized peoples?
>>128392154
I'm now in full support of the "Hannibal is autistic" theory.
>>128392534
>Sorry, profligate, our Jupiter-fast meals only have Pluto wax dolls today
>MMMMMMMMMM!
>I want PASTATI!
>>128392392
>128389698
>he thinks it's a woman
>>128392826
Know that you have given me a good laugh today, anon. Thanks.
>>128393484
The Hannibal fan club has to stick together, we're all we got outside mummy and the monthly tugboat. Now all we need is a drawfag to make silly comics of Hannibal doing autistic things.
>>128393675
"Go Hannibal! Go out and conquer to the extreme!"
"I will! Thank you, father!"
>>128394847about tree-fiddy
![EEEDFB24C102CEEB47E7FFFA2D988A4E322DF54A[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hPK4LZD.jpg "EEEDFB24C102CEEB47E7FFFA2D988A4E322DF54A[2].jpg")
>>128392392
It was literally self defense. The buildings caught fire as my men were standing outside, women came running out of the buildings and started attacking my brave, noble English Royal Thegns. Bad move.
Also; It's a game you dense cunt.
>>128359418
Any tips on how to launch a successful siege in FOTS? Feels like I can'touch a castle till I unlock arty.
>mfw I send my boys over the top into the castle, and they never return.
>>128397602
I just hit them with overwhelming force and use autoresolve most of the time because I suck dick at it
>First time I do fort assault
>Able to burn down gate and get in
>Every other time I have to climb the walls and get slaughered because I don't have the option to destroy the gate
And that is the story of why I autoresolve sieges.
>>128397602
Only send a single unit to siege, keep the rest of the units nearby to reinforce. The enemy will come out to attack, and then you wipe them out. This is effective until you get cannons, which will make sieges easy mode.
>>128397602
I auto resolve til I get artillery. I decided to do this because it's really tedious. The basic strategy is like so
1: outnumber the enemy
2: divide your forces with one larger than the other, like 70:30
3: hide the smaller force near another gate
4: wait til the enemy is distracted by the main force and then rush in with the smaller one
5: quickly get inside the castle (they will send like one unit to stop you which you can easily brush past)
6a: support your main force by hitting the defenders from behind, breaking their morale and allowing your main force to gain access to the castle easily
7: mop up remaining defenders
Just a basic outline and it's not clean or pretty (at least how I do it, somebody else probably has a really neat way to bait out defenders into a perfect trap but I just want the fucking thing to be over with and early units aren't worth crying over anyway).
>assumes power at the age of 15
>Denmark, Norway, Saxony, Poland-Lithuania and Russia all invade Swedish territory looking for easy grab because of the inexperienced and young king
>Charles kicks them all in to submission
>fights and wins outnumbered 3-1 against Russian army
JUST
>>128400037
And now look at what his beautiful Sweden has become.
>>128399817
I'm even lazier, I just force a beachhead, usually three units per ladder, twelve in all on one wall, then carve my way to the city center.
>>128397602
How to siege in FOTS:
1. Play Tosa.
2. Get a big navy.
3. Get 2 cannons in your army.
4. Turn everything to hamburger before you send in your men to kill the 10 intact soldiers who somehow managed to survive.
Is M2TW ai really this shit?
I'm playing on VH/VH as Portugal and I've already expelled the moors by turn 14
And took Bordeaux which the French sent 2 town militia and peasant archers to try to take, slaughtered them
And why the fuck can't I declare war with a diplomat?
>>128400458
Yeah that's definitely the simplest, and bloodiest, way to do it. But like I said I usually just autoresolve until I get artillery, and even then I only fight battles with artillery because I love watching cannons blow formations to pieces.
Is it worth playing Rome II vanilla before playing DEI?
I just want to spread glorious Punic culture everywhere, and they get a lot more unique units in DEI.
>>128400215
SD 2018 friend
>spanish campaign in Med 2
>not ending in spitefully destroying the entire world
ISHYGDDT
>>128400873
Simplest, and unfortunately most efficient way to go about it in early-game. If I do 3 ladders on one wall and 1 on another, I can't get enough flanking bonuses to break through. If I have fewer men on each ladder, I don't have enough bodies to break through. The abundance of arrow towers mean too much maneuvering is death. If it was intentional, I tip my fedora to CA for turning sieges into a meat grinder.
>>128383541
Why not just use links from /tg/ historical warfare general? Are yours ospreys special?
>>128384413
>2 blacks and manlet
;_;
Was there at least 1 cool white general?
>>128401584
>2016
>going on dedbord
>>128401791
>He thinks Napoleon was white
Racist scum, this isn't 2015 you know.
>>128400989
Fuck it, I'll play some non-Carthage thing first in vanilla to try it out.
Are there any mods which fix the siege shit? Will I ever be able to fucking play rome 2 without AI jet fuel-torches burning down my gates, without them even trying to use siege equipment?
> invades Russia during winter
> loses half the army due to attrition
> gets rekt
Why do they never learn?
>>128402093
Source?
>>128402553
That's Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, father of Alexandre Dumas
>>128402513
>mfw its been almost a thousand years since someone has managed to conquer Russia in the winter
Why were mongols so based?
>>128360096
oy vey
>>128402175
So, I was looking for any mod that might fix R2 sieges, and my search led me to an old discussion about gate burning.
Of course there was one brave rebel defending this integral feature, and I knew that the mod advertised in this man's signature must be a true work of genius. 14 new, HISTORICAL, White Hun units, you say? I wonder, how has this man improved upon the ahistorical travesty that is the vanilla White Hun line-up?
HISTORICAL
HUNNIC
CAMEL
CATAPHRACTS
>>128408034
I see no problem with it.
>>128387751
FUCKING NORMANS REEEEEE
>>128385064
>He posted it again, the absolute madman!
Never 4get to tip your hat to fellow anons
*tip*
>There are some people in this world who believe Africa got its name from Scipio Africanus
I wish I could say this was a joke.
>>128364848
tetrarchy i suppose.
Again the Empire building tree because Empire is GOAT!
Hail Sigmar!Fuck vampire cunts, chaos whores, mountain jews and green niggers
>>128400768
its best if you have a whole bunch of abilities for your general that increases the amount of naval bombardments, reduces their cool down time. if you have some kotetsu in your navy you can also get the number of barrages up to 5.
>>128409635
You're probably white.
>>128415142
Lets take guesses on which army build will be ridiculously OP.
Grenade Outriders + Mortar spam.
>>128400037
>those baller ass infantry tactics
Gustav would be proud.
>tfw new warhammer reveal today
my nerves can't handle this
>>128417320
From the trailers Empire arty looks limp wristed as fuck.
>>128417363
Always Breitenfield.
The Father of Modern War, Gustavus Adolphus almost certainly was not. But he may very well have been the Father of the Modern World. Because then, at that place, at the moment when the Saxons broke and the Inquisition bade fair to triumph over all of Europe, the king of Sweden stood his ground.
And proved, once again, that the truth of history is always concrete. Abstractions are the stuff of argument, but the concrete is given. Whatever might have been, was not. Not because of tactics, and formations, and artillery, and methods of recruitment—though all of those things played a part, and a big one—but because of a simple truth. At that instant, history pivoted on the soul of one man. His name was Gustavus Adolphus, and there were those among his followers who thought him the only monarch in Europe worthy of the name. They were right, and the man was about to prove it. For one of the few times in human history, royalty was not a lie.
>>128419098
source?
>>128419212
What do you mean source? they post something new pretty much every day on their facebook, twitter or instagram page.
>>128419308
well you just seem to assume there's some relevant reveal today that's worth talking about, didn't know if they had made some announcement about something coming out today or not
How does charge work exactly?
I've read somewhere that when you click the enemy unit - the "charge" activates, lasts a few seconds, then goes on cooldown for unkown period of time. Is that true?
>>128406557
"The Russian heads fell beneath the swords of the Tatars as grass beneath the scythe." -- Novgorodian Chronicles, 1238 a.d.
We miss the Mongols. We need to talk to them.
We go to the steppes, but they don't seem to be home.
We need them, because they were the only nuclear power before the twentieth century. They were not human, as we, after 1945, are not human--much though we try to be, cowards that we are.
The Mongols are our only ancestors. What little we know about them is charged with a terrible and beautiful alienness.
They poured molten silver in the eyes and ears of traitors--a visual joke.
They could be compassionate: when Genghiz Khan captured Jamukha, his closest friend, he did Jamukha the honor of killing him by rolling him up in a carpet and crushing him with boulders, so that the blood would remain in the body.
They had their own sense of righteousness: when the small Slavic town of Kozelsk, near Kaluga, resisted them for months, they dubbed it "the wicked town." So upset were they with the scandalous behavior of Kozelsk that they not only killed all the inhabitants (which went without saying), but drowned the child-prince, Vladimir, in human blood. That'll teach'em to be wicked!
Only water could stop them. Only two of their campaigns failed: the attacks on Java and Japan. The Mongols were inland creatures--centaurs, four-legged archers; they had to rely on mere humans to transport them across the sea. Like witches, they lost something of their power when crossing water. The Japanese were saved twice: once by a lucky typhoon, the kamikaze or holy wind invoked by suicide bombers in the last stages of WW II, and once by the confusion among the Mongols as they tried to disembark: the Samurai attacked and destroyed the invaders before they could mount their ponies.
>>128422359
Once on the pony, bow in play, the Mongols were invulnerable; they danced just at the edge of bow-range, dispatching humans until it was time to go among the dead and collect one's arrows, burn the villages and move on to the next days work of planet-cleansing.
When the Russians first encountered the Mongols, it happened the way the Tasmanian Devil appears in a Looney Toons cartoon: first all the animals in the forest come rushing past, fleeing together, lion and rabbit and squirrel no longer afraid of each other, sharing the far greater terror of what's behind them. Then the Devil himself appears.
It was their old enemies the Polovtsi, who warned the thirteenth-century Russian princes of the Mongols. The Polovtsi came to beg the Russians' help against this new terror from the East. The Polovtsi explained things simply: "They have taken our country; tomorrow they will take yours." The Southern Russian princes, for once, behaved sensibly--at first. They acknowledged their common peril and formed an alliance among themselves and with the hated Polovtsi against the Mongols.
The Mongols appeared, quiet and uncanny, to make the Russians another offer. Their ambassadors said "We have come against our slaves and grooms, the accursed Polovtsi. [The Mongols always thought in horsey terms. "slave" equals "groom."] We have no quarrel with you; be at peace with us." Rarely did the Mongols give anyone a chance like that. And, just like the last of the reckless Russian princes, Nicholas II when the Germans warned him not to destroy his people on behalf of the French, the Russian princes chose not to listen. A foolhardy chivalry ruled them from the moment they took the non-career-enhancing step of murdering the Mongol envoys.
>>128422470
But they still could have won, if they hadn't been ruled by the same suicidal chivalrous recklessness. For once, all the princes of Southern Russia were united. They made a huge and formidable army, which advanced into the steppes in 1224 to find the Tatar horde. Encountering the Mongols on the Kalka, near the sea of Azov, the princes' cavalry charged without even informing the Kievans who made the bulk of the army. They were destroyed; then the Mongols went about methodically destroying the disorganized Kievan forces. At least 10,000 Kievans died, and the Southern Russian forces were broken. The surviving princelings reverted to form, making private deals with the Mongols--but the Mongols, faced with such "wickedness," were not in a generous mood any longer. Mstislaf, Prince of Kiev, was holed up in a fortified camp on the Kalka. The Mongols offered him his, his sons' and his retainers' lives if they surrendered. They did; the Mongols massacred the garrison and then crushed the Prince and his two sons-in-law under planks. In the Slavic view, this was a refinement of cruel treachery; but the Mongols thought in their own, very alien and idiosyncratic ways. To them, this might have been an honorable death, which kept the blood in the body--and to them, the blood was the life.
The Southern Russian princes had come close to organized resistance; the Northern princes, terrified, could not unite and were wiped out one by one. After a ten-year quiet which was almost as terrifying as the first onslaught (the Mongols had gone home to attend the coronation of Ogodai as Genghiz's successor), they returned, annihilating the Bulgars, another former enemy of Russia, then turned on the Northern princes.
>>128422541
The next century was smoke, blood, disaster. The only stories the Russians could use to console themselves were of the sort conquered people always tell: grand defiance, magnificent gestures which have no hope of altering the fact of defeat. The Princes of Ryazan, marching out to meet certain death, were offered a deal by the Mongols: "If you want peace, give us a tenth of your wealth." The folk tales have the princes saying in grand disdain, "When we are dead, you may have the whole." The Mongols' reply, not recorded, would have been something on the order of, "OK; thanks!"
When Fyodor of Ryazan had died in due course, his wife, Euphrasia, followed the practice of virtuous wives, choosing to leap from the terem (harem) rather than face the fate worse than death. There's no proof she did so; these stories are the only way the defeated humans could go on living under alien rule.
The Russians gleaned from the great disaster only the bitter consolation prizes of defeated peoples, above all the right to explain what went wrong, whatever went wrong, as legacy of "the Mongol yoke." It's easy for Westerners to mock this sort of grand version of "I had a bad childhood," but it's even harder to imagine Voltaire and Hume springing up on soil that had felt the Mongol ponies' hooves. They were good enough reason to explain many things, above all disappearances and vanishings..
The Mongols specialized in vanishing and making vanish. They didn't build cities, they erased them. Karakorum, the Mongols' one attempt to build a capital city, is a rectangle of mud walls now. The Mongols' greatest memorials are negative: huge blank spots on the map. Eastern Iran, once a populous, irrigated land, is a blank now, courtesy of the Mongol cleaners. They erased the cities and, far more devastatingly, the irrigation systems. Humans breed like cockroaches, and will always repopulate plundered cities--but if you smash their water supply, they can't come back.
>>128422624
But the one quality which sets them apart from every other tribe is their utter, superhuman immunity to the God-virus. The Mongol attitude to religion was wholly alien. They found the religions of the conquered humans handy, to keep the livestock under control, but could see no difference between the various superstitions and were equally sardonic about all of them. They cared no more about the beliefs of their subjects than a farmer cares what his dairy cattle think about reincarnation. It's true that Genghiz disliked Muslims perhaps more than subjects of other cults, but only because the Khan's armies encountered more opposition from the Muslims, while the Christians, far weaker in Central Asia, were mostly preachers--entertainers on dull nights after a day of erasing villages.
No human tribe has ever managed to keep from catching the God virus-but then, the Mongols were not human. All the survivors agreed on that. An Armenian priest describes them:
"They were terrible to look at and indescribable, with large heads like a Buffalo, narrow eyes like a baby bird, a snub nose like a cat, big snouts like a dog, narrow waists like an ant, and short legs like a hog. They are as strong as lions but as shrill-voiced as hawks....They bear huge litters like snakes and eat like wolves. Death does not appear among them, for they live 300 years. They do not eat bread at all."
A science-fiction writer wisely said, "The thing about aliens is--they're ALIEN." You can't understand them. You never will. That's true of the Mongols: they were so unlike the people who "eat bread" that chroniclers can only describe them by resorting to a whole zoo of analogies, like the Armenian does: they were like ants, lions, snakes, birds, dogs...everything but human. The Mongols referred to themselves as a "swarm of birds"; they flew, while the humans trudged. The humans said the same: "The Mongols appear where least expected," coming and going like a wry, lethal God.
>>128422708
The Khans claimed to be the descendants of a she-wolf. They tinkered with humans; they played. When Ogotai, son of Genghiz Khan, captured North China, his lieutenants suggested that the human population be erased, because all these walls--the houses and palaces and cities which were no more to the Mongols than termite mounds--spoiled what could have been good pasture. The Khan considered it, but decided as a matter of policy that those bipeds could be useful. And it would have been a lot of work to erase them, because there were at least twenty million people in North China. He let them live. That's why China is not pasture today.
In Iran, the Mongols chose to erase the human population: that's why much of Iran is desert today.
And that's why we need to talk to the Khans now: because they are the only people before the invention of nuclear weapons to have treated the world as a garden to be pruned as they chose. We need to compare notes with Genghiz and Kublai Khan, with Subotai and Ogodai. But it's difficult, because the Mongols are coming into fashion and becoming extinct.
The two processes are linked: extinction first, then fashionability.
The missionaries are in charge of the actual extinction. As the eXile's inimitable War Nerd recently pointed out, the missionaries are the military wing of Christianity, the real stormtroubadors. They are busily infecting the Mongols now. Mongolia is converting to Christianity faster than any other country in the world. Some reports say the whole population will be Christian in ten years. Plump white folks from Nebraska and Texas are fanning out over the steppes in expensive new Toyota Landcruisers, visiting the most remote herders' tents to breathe the God-virus on them. And these Mongols, the shy remnant, lack the Khans' immunity to the God-virus; they're succumbing to it instantly.
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You know, it really triggers me that english sources dont diferentiate Rus from Russia when talking about pre-1485 events.
>>128422794
For the herders, the switch from Buddha and the shamans to Jesus is simple: Jesus brings stuff every time his followers come by, while Buddha never brought anything. The old Buddhist monks just sat in their lamaseries, chanting; the Christian missionaries, these inexplicable white people in vehicles worth more than most Mongolian towns, drop off blankets and pots every time they come by. And the shamans' drums don't work as well as the drugs the plump visitors bring.
So the Mongols are finished. Already they've descended to human; soon they'll be churchgoing stooges--less than human. Ten years from now they'll all be in cheap suits, singing Come to Jesus in the key of C and studying accounting at Oral Roberts U.. Then the Khans will really be gone.
The most grotesque aspect of the whole thing is that Hollywood is going Buddhist/shamanistic as quickly as the Gobi is going Christian, so that in a decade the Dalai Lama may build a new, Lhasa-style palace overlooking the HOLLYWOOD sign while Pat Robertson powers his wheelchair up the ramp of a brand-new Jesusarium & Bible College built on the ruins of Genghiz's capital.
Somehow, though, it's not a fair exchange. Hollywood Mongols just wouldn't be very good. Hollywood has never done the Mongols very well. John Wayne actually played Genghiz in a movie called The Conqueror, but I've heard it was one of the worst movies ever. Didn't see it myself; I don't go in for camp, especially about serious matters.
But it's foolish, I guess, whining about the extinction of the Mongols, when all the warrior peoples are being phased out, along with the big cats and other remaining predators. In the cubicle world, no predators are allowed--not without ties'n'smiles. Dress code.
>>128422874
But don't worry, we'll mourn'em as we kill them off. Just like the Brits mourned the Highlanders, once they were wiped out. Just like the Americans mourned the Sioux once they were erased. Just as, when the last wolf in the lower 48 was shot, wolf posters started appearing in every sensitive kid's bedroom. The wolf-cult is big now; CDs of wolf-howls sell almost as big as humpback whale songs, and there's a whole subgenre of New Age music in which wolf howls are tracked over bad jazz, for meditation soundtracks. We love 'em, once they're gone.
That's why the camera crews are fanning out across the steppes right now, along with the missionaries. The missionaries are the kill-teams; the moviemakers are there to make videos of the death, like the ones perky office-workers with colon cancer make of their last weeks on Earth, the kind shown at those new-style cheery funerals so popular these days.
Julia Roberts just did a documentary about her stay with a family of Mongol herders, who were presented as friendly, kindly, and a bit dim. Nothing to fear, or interest, any one.
The Russians go a little further, of course, toward the thing we really like about Mongols: so, in the quasi-Russian film Urga, a poor Mongol herder dreams he meets Genghiz Khan, the "Oceanic Ruler," himself. The modern Mongol comes face to face with the Khan's entourage, and is ashamed to be seen as he is: unarmed, harmless, ripe for infection with the Christian virus.
>>128422948
The modern Mongol, dim and affable--nobody except the missionaries really wants THAT Mongol. What the rest of us dream of is the Khan's horde: the black arrow that swept across Eurasia like a hundred-mile wide cropduster, leaving utter silence in its wake. Every boy who came on the Mongols in the "M" volume of the encyclopedia slobbered over those black arrows on the map, placed the flat of his hand over them and moved it forward following the path of the Horde, making little hissing noises as he imagined the progress of Death incarnate.
For centuries the wilder Europeans have been making the black pilgrimage to Central Asia, trying to find THOSE Mongols. They never find anything but the shy, polite herders--Julia Roberts' gracious hosts.
Last year I saw a five-hour documentary by some German woman who followed a group of yak-herders around the steppes. The Mongols were very quiet: the only sound for most of the five hours was the yak-bells clanging. The herders smiled embarrassedly, aware that they were somehow unsatisfactory. There was a festival with wrestling, and long shots of people crunching in frozen mud--but the Mongols we all want to see were not in evidence.
And they're not to be found. The Western Khanates were absorbed by the Islam they had done so much to destroy, and subsided into feebleness, so that their Russian vassals began pushing south and east, taking back what had been lost and more. The herders, and their decadent little rulers, were all there was to be found. No one to hold to account; no one who even remembered the days before these beings who had been something more, less, other than human became mere people.
>>128423037
What is this autism
Early game for Empire is gonna be hard as fuck going on those tier 1 units.
>>128368001
That image hit me right in the feels. I used to post a Dutch Empire Darth campaign and I just remember posting a picture of diplomacy with Spain. I was kicking their ass on the wild coast and Panama at the time.
Carlos II's big stupid inbred face with terrifying as Spain's power status. Someone edited it together - beautiful.
Now my rig is broken, no money to fix it because I'm doing an MA in Early Modern History. I miss being a part of it ;_;
>>128425714
Given that the full image of the building chains appears to be of Altdorf with all the surrounding regions still help by other factions I think maybe you might start with a Tier 3 barracks.
>>128425714
Let's hope the whole game will be a struggle for the Empire like it should be!
Hardest mode for hardest players
>>128426680
Coming from the tabletop Empire couldn't hope to win a game with swordsmen/spearmen, pistoliers, mortars, warrior priests and a wizard. Infantry literally melts without range support, mortar can't touch monstrous creatures and without heavy cav there's no hammer to support infantry.
are there any good mods for AoC? I am feeling burned out on the franchise, so the base expansion just doesnt cut it for me anymore
>>128427019
Yes theuninstall
>>128426090
Congrats on getting into postgrad anon, I'm doing a phd on WW1 as well actually. Have far too little time to play TW but i still have /twg/ open in another tab no matter what else I'm doing.
And after spending some time in other generals, /twg/ is still actually a lot friendlier and more helpful than every other general I've seen.
Roma Surrectum 1 or 2>
My Europa campaign has been met with an unavoidable repeat crash situation, and I am too deterred to start empire building from scratch if it may happen again.
>>128365141
Out-viking the danes.
>>128428497
You too anon, just applied to do a PhD. Hope it's going well for you anon and all the best.
Same I just open it when I've got a bit of down time though. I'm between semesters at the minute.
I long for a seventeenth century TW, Warhammer's The Empire looks to be the closest I'll get.
this thread is comfy as fuck.
>>128429483
Thanks, all the best for you too.
I'm a pike and shotter too anon. Been reading up on the English civil war to decompress from WW1 stuff and it just makes me want a TW set in that era so bad. It'd be too perfect. But yeah, I'll be playing Warhammer as the Empire for the same reason.
>>128429915
Always nice to witness someone suddenly realise how retarded they are.
run for your life, Vandal scum
>>128430631
>Always nice to witness someone suddenly realise how retarded they are.
So sorry that Steam decided to fuck up and I had to restart to fix it. Really shows just how retarded I am.
How do I into naval battles? What's the ideal composition of a navy, if I'm transporting an army, which land units fare best? Attila btw
>>128432025
>psEASYIGSN FAORS GAMES
>>128428497
>>128429483
>>128426090
>>128432025
You're literally the equivalent of those people that call tech support before bothering to turn it off and on again.
>>128422359
>>128422470
>>128422541
>>128422624
>>128422708
>>128422794
>>128422874
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>>128423037
Holy shit
>>128432662
>/kurwa/
>knowing how to feed a family
>>128432459
>>128432964
>try launcher trick
>works
>works for months with zero issue
>try again eventually
>fails
>fails again
>and again
>and again
>no game process in task manager
>steam shows me playing nothing
>assume it doesn't work the same anymore
>make post
>try restarting Steam ten seconds later
>works
>delete post
>"YOU ARE LTIERALLY RETARDED HAHA"
Alright?
>>128425714
Carroburg's aren't in the game.
>>128433409
Its just a guess though CA didn't confirm mortars either so they aren't ruled out. Besides captain its pretty hard to distinguish what the two other units could be.
>>128434227
It's just a process of elimination, you look at what's there and what's missing and make an intelligent guess based on what's in the image.
>1. Swordsmen and spearmen.
>2. Crossbows, Spearmen w. Shields and Halberds.
>3. Captain, Greatswords and handgunners.
In the first tier, you can see a clear swordsman, and next to him a similarly armoured guy thrusting forward = spearman.
Second tier shows a clear halberd and crossbow, plus a man holding a spear even more armoured than before In a shielded stance.
Third tier shows the eyepatch man as the captain, plus a man on the far left with a funny hat about to swing with his greatsword, then in the middle you have a man clearly holding a rifle.
Does attila have any kind of melee Friendly Fire? like FF from charges in the backs of your own units?
