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M5A1 edition.

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium vehicle for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>Vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox

>Teamspeak Address you can use:
ts.gonnahate.org

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html
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anime
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Why not make it the M3 edition?

That way we could've referenced guns, tanks, AT guns AND trucks.
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anime
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Never forget
>KonigthePedo
>Constantly whines about Triahx bullying him and being the reason he doesn't ever post
>Constantly whines about German things getting shit on in game
>Saves pictures of vegeta's kids

http://steamcommunity.com/id/normalfriendfornormalpeople
Have fun
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>>128089843
Problem?
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>>128089924
>aspie drama

Great, guess we can consider this thread a write off.
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>>128089843
Because that anon requested it be an M5A1 edition, and the M5A1 is a excellent tonk, also, holy fuck, pic related.
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So what do you guys listen to while flying?
This is one of my favorites al la Dr. Strangelove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY
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Guys, Spitfire or Hurricane line?
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>>128090008
I'm just posting a reminder, anon.
I'm only trying to invite shitposting on Konig's steam.
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>>128089965
>tripod for the M2
>called the M3
I honestly have no words or pictures that can describe the unending rage I feel right now.
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>>128089671
Thank you kind sir for this edition.
M5A1 is radicool.
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>>128090045
Hawker line.
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>>128090045
Hakurei-chan's silk stockings!
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>>128090045
hurricane if you want to try to have a silly pride about using worse aircraft

spitfire to be actually enjoy good viable planes and thus get insulted nonstop by angry goons
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>>128089924
Just stop.
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>>128090010
I would pay actual money for that.
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>>128090010
Whizbangs would be more fun and were actually deployed.

>>128090045
H A W K E R
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K
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>>128090298
Make me
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>The Caernarvon Slayer

Britfags are shit
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>>128090298
I have no idea what your image is supposed to mean so I substituted it with my imagination.
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>>128089924
vegeta's plan is pure genius

he foresaw the islamic invasion of europe and realized european genes are far too diverse, in order to accomplish his goals he got his girlfriend pregnant at age 14

when his daughters come of age he will impregnate them, the resullting childrens genes will be more pure than that of most europeans
he does not stop there however, he will continue the cycle and with each iteration the genes will become more pure

i would not be surprised if in 100 years his 5th generation son was the emperor of europe, fulfilling hitlers dream of one unified europe nad one pure master race
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>>128090467
It's that shitty piccolo meme
Pretty much the pre-bane 4u bullshit
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>>128089965
I don't understand this meme, the British had a Mk II spitfire and a Mk II hurricane and a Mk II matilda tank but some retardposter isn't sperging about the british war industry assigning its things the same Mk number.
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>>128090527
He's not entirely wrong, better to knock them up young so you don't produce autists.
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Hakurei-chan!
Hakurei-chan!
We love Hakurei-chan!
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>>128090660
.....wat. The name of the plane is Spitfire, the Mk number is LITERALLY THE VARIANT OF THAT SPITFIRE.

I know this has to be bait, no one is this retarded.
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>>128090540
Where Piccolo fucks Vegeta in his asshole?
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>>128090660
Because it's not Mk II Spitfire, it's Spitfire Mk II.

That's like calling Shermans A1M4, A2M4, A3M4, A3E2M4, etc.
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Jap shit is the worst.

Type (our shitty calender year here)
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I WANT TO KISS HAKUREI-CHAN LOTS!
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>>128090825
Yeah and everyone replies 'thanks doc'.
Eventually it just ended up getting people banned iirc so they'd just post purple and green shit and then would meme with that.
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>>128090757
The point is that if you said "what kind of plane is that" and I said "it's a Mk II" you still wouldn't know what it was, you need more information: "it's a spitfire mk II".
If you say "what kind of rifle is that" and I say "it's an M4 rifle" you don't say "isn't that a ww2 tank xd?!?!?!" although you might because it seems like you might be retarded.
The M literally stands for "model", and it's meaningless without context, just like the "mk" system. Stop sperging.
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>>128090981
Except that is literally the name of the tank, gun, truck etc. mentioned. The M3 Lee, the M3 Stuart, the 90mm M3, the 75mm M3, the 20mm M3 cannon, or the 20mm M2 cannon, the 20mm M24 cannon (ALL OF WHICH ARE NAMES FOR THE 20MM HISPANO).
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>>128090981
>What tank is that?
Oh, that's an M3
>No way, the M3 has that big gun in the hull and the smaller one up top.


Spitfire is the actual name of the plane, the model number is just the model number, unlike the American things, where M3 is the actual name, and Lee/Grant/Stuart are just nicknames.
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>>128090981
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1

So you see nothing wrong with the "Firearms and military equipment" section then?
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>>128091141
The proper name of the vehicle is stuff like "medium tank, M3" or "aircraft cannon, 20mm, M2". Again, without context the M-number is meaningless, which is why they supply context when they name these things.
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>>128091387
>without context the M-number is meaningless
A name that doesn't work if you don't have context.

Brilliant. Pure military genius. How incredibly efficient of the Americans. Instead of using combinations of the 26 letters in our alphabet and the literally endless amount of numbers.
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>>128091387
They have to add context because they fucked themselves. Nobody has to say "Spitfire airplane."
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>>128091278
...no
The flamethrower is called flamethrower M1.
The helmet is called helmet M1.
The bayonet is called bayonet M1.
The rifle is called rifle M1.
If you got told to put your M1 on your head, fix your M1 to your M1, and charge the enemy, would you put your rifle on your head and fix your bayonet to your helmet? Are you retarded?
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>>128091761
>writing them all backwards
Stop that shit right fucking now.
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>>128091761
Yes
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>>128091503
>a typhoon devastated the british tank column
could use some context there desu
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>>128091761
>he still sees absolutely nothing wrong with this system

I see now how this system was implemented in the first place. Additionally, I have gained insight as to why Americans continue using an archaic measurement system nationwide.
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>>128091885
There are some pretty sick storms in SEA bro
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>>128091885
...As in, the storm? Or as in friendly fire?

I reaaaaaaally don't think a tank column, a British one at that, will be encountering typhoons.
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>ITT Rivet Counters
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This general is somehow worse than the last one.
Fucking LG shitposters ruining the thread
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>>128092068
Didn't the bongs deploy tanks in indochina?
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>>128092068
>I reaaaaaaally don't think a tank column, a British one at that, will be encountering typhoons.
literally happened on multiple occasions, they think it was a carbon monoxide leak
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Why everytime i play as americans the germans are all fucking aces and when i play with them they ask how to fly an FW or a 109
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>>128092716
ONLY CONSTANT IS YOU
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>>128092169
All we've done so far is discuss Americas retarded naming system.


Are you that one dude who thinks it's not retarded or something?
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>>128092863
It's autism on the scale of /gsg/. I think the whole discussion is retarded. Sure the US naming system was stupid, but that's what they decided on. Bitching about it now for the sake of autism changes absolutely nothing. Let's bitch about the game or something, this crap is just hard to read.
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>>128092990
How about no.

Instead of complaining about it, try starting a new discussion.
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War Thunder should have pure black out beyond 7G after 2 seconds as a rule.
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>>128093082
Show me on the doll where the XP-55 touched you, anon.
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Actual good edition
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>>128093150
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/291227-energy-maneuverability-graphs/?p=5666172

here anon
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>>128093082
>Being bad
>Not being good
>>128093074
How about we talk about G-lock
Anyone else get LOST CONTROL after they stopped pulling Gs? It's happened to me a few times in the past couple days.
Thoughts on G-Lock as well, I think it's a good addition since it prevents shitters from going nuts.
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>wtg thinks m3 medium tank is retarded
>wtg has no problem with assault gun IV, armoured combat vehicle IV, armour hunter IV, etc
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>>128093210
>>128093150
>pulling high G turns in an offesive situation where historically only done defensively

uh huh
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>>128093210
It's G-LOC you mongoloid, you're not locking anything.
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>>128093210
Stamina. You can still be draining stamina, which you might only have a sliver left, just by pulling minor Gs.
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>>128093435
I saw a screenshot earlier that had "stamina: x" in the hud like engine temp and heading, was that a shop or is there actually a way to display stamina in-game?
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>>128093352
I like how "G force induced loss of consciousness" somehow abbreviates to G-LOC.
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>>128093541
arcade feature
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>tfw the result of the match relies on this player
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Is time till GLOC constant? When does it start?
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>>128094176
Check your crew stats, it'll be somewhere in either Stamina or G Tolerance.
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>>128094176
When you throw your mouse across the room.
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>>128094301
What about us posh types who play with our dicks out?

5-6Gs?
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>>128094341
It changes from plane to plane, honestly. I pull 11Gs all the time in my nazi tempest with no adverse effects, but lose control at 6 in a zero.
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>>128094440
Probably crew skill sempai.
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>>128094176
Depends on stats but you can reliably pull and hold 6-7Gs
I can edge wing overload in my Horten at 11Gs for maybe five or six seconds if I REALLY need to evade, but other than that you're better off staying at 6-7Gs and 9Gs if you really need to pull up.
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>>128094176
Best guess is that you start draining stamina energy once you go over the g limit listed in the crew skill page (governed by g-tolerance skill), stamina drain rate being proportional in some way to how far over you go, and then once you drain all your stamina you "lost control".
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>>128094773
So really G-tolerance is the single most important skill now.
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>>128094834
Vitality is WAY more important than G-tolerance.
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>>128094834
Always has been.
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>>128094902
Why? I don't get hit. :^)
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>>128094902
Kek, nice one anon.
It just gives you SLIGHTLY better RNG for getting pilot sniped. Though it could just be the Horten because almost half of my deaths are from pilot snipes from a single round. Any other plane I don't have this kind of issue.
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>>128095092
That's because the Horten's cockpit is huge and centre target. Same with the 410.
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>>128095182
>tfw pilot sniped from the rear by a stray round from a friendly trying to clear your six
>He won't take it's okay for a response when he starts apologizing profusely
I've been pilto sniped from behind in a fresh 229 more often than I'd like. Doesn't help the pilot's head is above the fuselage and can be hit without hitting the plane itself. I'm probably just making something out of nothing.
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>>128094978
Shit happens, anon. Surviving 23/37mm cannons is pretty damn handy.
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>>128095334
Fremen levels of blood coagulation.
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>>128095092
I imagine that's largely because the most common anti-horten weapon, US .50s, are largely ineffective against the rest of the horten. Easily 75% of my horten kills in the p-80 were pilot snipes just because when the bullets land in other places they don't really do anything the other 25% are from bullets landing in other places and not really doing anything and then the 229 pilot throwing the mouse across the room, breaking his wings and awarding me a kill
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>>128095308
Nah, the hortens cockpit really does have shitty positioning. It becomes really clear with a few aircraft. I know people bitch about the 410 not have an armoured glass cockpit is because they get shot through it so much, I've had it happen to me more than enough.
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>>128095334
that's probably the FI-T rounds hitting somewhere near you, difficult to say if it would've killed with lower vitality
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>>128095401
Go for the wings, least in my experience that's the other main cause of death in it. Shots to the wingtips will cut it off and a good burst to the wing just outside the engine generally will either fuck the plane to hell or light it on fire irrevocably. Granted your goal is to just hit the fucking thing, specifying targets on it comes second.
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>>128095570
Honestly shooting centre target is a pretty good tactic with the 229. You've got two engines and one pilot within close proximity, all of which are critical targets that can pretty much guarantee a kill.
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>>128095684
It's a good tactic on all fighters as a general rule.
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>>128095684
Are 229s as easy to hit as they feel? I get they can turn but in order to not rip you have to be very gentle with mouse movement and it feels like I'm just a huge target.
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>>128095786
It depends on the angle. They're pretty flat compared to 262s.
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>>128095786
I loved seeing 229s in my Bearcat. They were so overconfident in their turning ability, and presented a MASSIVE target going for a complete deflection turn, if only for a few moments. A few moments is more than enough with 20mm stealth rounds.
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>>128095995
It's fun fighting F8Fs since 229s are a pretty even match. Always have to keep in mind as a prop they'll have a maneuverability advantage to some extent.
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>>128096089
>pretty even match
No, not really. It's a jet.
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>>128096142
>Only advantage the 229 has over the Bearcat is outright top speed
It accelerates like dogshit unless you're diving.
Least it feels pretty even to me, and I fly both the Bearcats and the 229.
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>>128096089
>faster
>has air brakes, so it can get from fast to turn speed super easy
>engine isn't lava
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>>128096089
Ehhhhhhh.... I would've agreed with you, back before Gaijin broke the Bearcats knees with a baseball bat and gave the Horten high performance fantasy engines.

Now it's more like a fist getting repeatedly smashed into my face every time I fly it.
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>>128096089
>even match
in straight level flight a 229 is faster than a p-80
thankfully all a 229 pilot wants to do is turn so it's not a situation that comes up very often.
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>>128096263
The 229 is one of the few planes I'm not afraid to engage in the Bearcat.
>>128096258
Zoom and then bank back around and dive as he comes out of the turn.
Most 229 pilots are too stupid to use the airbrakes anyways it seems.
>>128096302
>Sniping a plane trying to outspeed you in a straight line
If a 229 tries to roll he's a big shitty target since roll speed isn't that great.

On average it's an even match thanks to pilot skill level, it isn't if either of the pilots really know what they're doing, at least in my experience. It's different for everyone obviously.
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>>128096443
Dude... no. It's not happening. The Bearcat is no longer an even match for the 229. Sure, I could probably come out on top vs a 229 90% of the time - but that's because I've got hundreds of games in the Bearcat, not because it's balanced. I've flown both the 229 and the Bearcat. It's not a fair fight.

Also, "pilot skill" is the shitty meme Gaijin has been using for shit like the F2H undertiering and other ridiculous shit. Don't embarrass yourself trying to use it as an actual argument.
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>>128096443
So when paper 229 fights bearcat it's an even matchup because in some cases the 229 pilots might not be smart enough to win.
I'll remember that next time somebody complains about having to fight p-80s in their D13.
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>go to custom just to dumb around
>tunisia
>enemy team is full of jets
>my team has a Lagg, an I-16, an 109 G6 and me
>theyre just flying around waiting for someone to spawn and kill


You must be really bored or just really bad at tier V to go to a custom and do that.
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>>128096759
Start a 1v1, with no restrictions. It's always amusing to see what you get.
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>>128096581
I generally have no trouble killing 229s on the off chance I'm not fighting an entire team of Doras, Slav UFOs, or Nips.
>F2H undertiering
It's sad because I shit all over those niggers in my 229. So maybe it isn't completely unfounded. I've had maybe eight try to turnfight me, two try to outspeed me in a straight line, I've baited a couple into low speed fights and got them when they stalled out.
I get the F2H would be fine at 7.7-8.0, but the pilots sure as hell wouldn't.
>>128096727
>Having a problem with P-80s in your D-13
Unless they run like niggers they aren't hard to kill. They just LOVE to go headon with everything and everyone as well.
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>>128096849
>Don't embarrass yourself trying to use it as an actual argument.
Clearly you didn't listen to that piece of advice, so I will now assume you are the head of Gaijins balancing department.
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>>128096849
Average pilot skill shouldn't enter the equation when discussing plane balance. This is the same shit Nabutso says when he talks about how F-2s are still the best 9.0s because they can win head-ons and that P-47s at 3.7 are fine.
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>>128096849
>going headon
>throwing away tactics for a chance at winning a coin toss
okay shitter
inb4 it's not a coin toss I'm actually really good at headons I have a positive headon k:d rate
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>>128096920
>Agree with you
>Arguing
Anon, I...
I agree with you on the F2H being undertiered. I just find it funny because the people flying them are clinically retarded.
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>>128096976
>F2H being undertiered

>he wants the f2h to fight mig-17s *every* game instead of just most games
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>>128096976
You're still justifying balance opinions with pilot skill. That is the problem here. It is, quite literally, a Gaijin tactic. It is mocked on wtg CONSTANTLY. It's even mocked on reddit.
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>>128096960
>Calls me a shitter
>Actively engages in headons
>>128097071
>Talking about fighting with certain planes
>It seems like an even match up from my experiences
>Brings up the F2H being undertiered and me calling people retarded as being a Gaijin technique
>Tells me I'm acting like Gaijin by talking about player skill
Have I gotten that right? I'm running on no sleep at the moment.
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Any got some online accounts of WW2 tankers/pilots?

That Centurion one was a right laugh.
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>>128097282
>reading comprehension for >>128096976
Okay fucked that one up. I don't actively seek headons, the P-80s do. And if I really need to I trust my 151s over their M2s is what I meant.
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>>128097291
You could read biographies of some aces or something? Pappy Boyingtons was a good laugh, namely because he embellished the shit out of so much stuff.
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>>128097370
P-80A has a hard choice. They risk being tailed and beaten or forced in a turn they will not win.
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>>128097491
Are they one of the planes where you always stay sanic no matter what? I don't have the heart to grind burger jets.
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>>128097562
Speed is king for the P-80 and F-80, it's practically all they have. So it's kind of a bad thing if the opponent is faster.
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>>128097617
Can't wait to get the engine upgrade for my Horten then.
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>>128097617
I'd argue speed control is more important. Realizing the point where you shouldn't continue is important.
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>>128097410
Can't be bothered going to my library/book store now.

Just wondering if anyone had some online one or ten for a quick read.
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>>128098929
http://www.allworldwars.com/Small-Unit-Actions-During-German-Campaign-in-Russia.html
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>>128099937
The one about the KV-2 holding off the German troops from the bridge is a good one.
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>>128100054
I swear from all the stories I hear the KV-2 was just a deployable "fuck you" to the Germans and Finns early war.
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>>128100054
I like the one where the officer in charge, seeing his troop having shit morale, sat on top of the stug to lead the charge
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>>128098929
Does the SR-71 story/stories count? The one where he went super low and super slow, or the one with the speed check competition.

I know they're memey as hell but damn they don't get boring to read.
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>>128100435
who HASN'T heard it at this point
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>>128100487
Yeah, but just imagine if you find one person who hasn't read it before, and you get to show it to them?
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>>128099937
Cheers.

>>128100435
Sure, have not heard of either story.
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Which of the two Panther would you rather recomment in SB, the A or the G?
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>hit Pz IV with 17 pdr
>crew turns into spam instantly
>hit T-34 with 17 pdr
>bounce))))
>hit again
>optics swallow the shell entirely
>again
>driver wounded)))
Simply epic.
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>night tank battles never
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>>128102617
>Panther 2 dominated everybody thanks to night vision
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>>128102384
t34 armor was so strong it shattered tungsten
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>>128102384

you obviously encountered a veteran t-34 that had built up his resistance to shells
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>>128102617
>Illumination and Smoke shells soon
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>>128102854
Fuck off Triahx.
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why is triahx new turbo? does he really meme that bad on TS?
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>>128103510
Triahx doesn't do shit desu except blog about his shitty brit tanks
People just hate him for no real reason
He is definitely autistic, but no where near as bad as turbo
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>>128103570
>M60_in_RB.jpg
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>>128102290

A

G a slow, the mantlet arguably makes the turret face weaker, and the other differences are irrelevant.
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WHO /ACE PILTO/ HERE
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>on Finland with the single cap point in the middle across from the village
>me and a KV-1 ZiS are clubbing from a hill across from the point
>tell everyone in chat what we're doing, me and the KV-1 are both top of the leaderboard
>10 minutes later everyones not doing shit jacking eachother off a kilometer away from the point

i hate this fucking game
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>Avenger
>slightly better turret speed but have to give up void shields
>not even APDS
>+1.3 BR over Achilles
why?
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>>128105087

Did Gaijin not give it APDS?
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>>128105087

Faster.

Turret speed is much better.

Achilles is undertiered.
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>>128104901
>aim-7

be a good sport, give them something better
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>>128104957
>the games where your team doesn't even fucking attempt to try and take the point

sigh
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>good with F-84
>good with F2H
>good with F9F
>turboshit with P or F-80

How do I git gud? I mean against props it's easy but against jets I can't seem to do shit in the F-80
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>>128102681
> implying gaijin will ever make it work
> implying it not just there to block the panther gun
> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>no matter how hard you carry, your team will always manage to find a way to lose the game
>no matter whether you kill the whole enemy team or drive onto the cap then J out of the tank, you get the same dogshit RP
Why are tanks such garbage?
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>FW 190 can't take-off from Kuban airfield with 1000kg bomb
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>>128105920
Why bother learning? You already have the later tier stuff.

>>128106039
Did you pitch your nose down after gaining speed?
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>>128105235
Comet is just plain better than Avenger though at the same BR.
>medium tank gets APDS
>tank destroyer doesn't
I mean, really?
All the Avenger has over the Comet is slightly faster RoF.
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were well-armored tanks with guns like the ostwind a thing? feels like they'd be really effective, especially when the tank crews are actual humans who get scared by being shot at
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>>128105257
This was a pre made mission already in the game
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Is the KV-1 ZiS worth it?

100mm of frontal armor seems pretty great, but is it really better than 75mm of the regular KV-1s armor, + the higher BR?
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>>128106223

Literally every tank with the 17pdr should have APDS. What the fuck is wrong with Gaijin?
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>PT-76 allowed in late-war event
>M41A1 is only allowed in Cold War events
))))))))))))))))))))
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>>128106535
we have this discussion every thread.

PT-76 is pretty shit tier, which is why it isn't allowed to fight against T-54s and conquerors
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>korea
>hunting a IL-28 in my F9F
>Me262 descends from low orbit
>blows my right wing off
>blows my tail off
>start to fire my cannons because why not
>actually manage to hit the 262 while spinning like a retard
>he crashes into a hill
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>>128106517

Balans.

Only Soviets get the shells their tanks actually carried, as well as every single shell that could ever possibly be fired from the gun.
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>>128105920
>average shooting star player
I doubt you're actually good at this game overall
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How much suffering is it to be in a tank during the desert war?

God knows how fucking hot it must be inside one.
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>>128107412
>hes bad with one plane so he's bad overall
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quick, someone tell me how to SB
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>>128107587
Just drive to the side.
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>>128106712
>M41 has 213mm penetration at 500m
>PT-76 has 200mm penetration at any range
>M41 only ever fights T-54s and T-10M in SB
>meanwhile PT-76 gets to club Tiger 1s and Panthers
>both vehicles have irrelevant armour
>M41 is faster
So the Bulldog has an advantage in speed while the PT-76 has the more powerful and easily accessed shell. Yet the M41 is strictly limited to Cold War SB while the PT-76 gets to drive around and fight 1942/43 tanks.
Both should be allowed in Cold War events only.
If the M41 can effectively fight T-54s then the PT-76 can deal with Leopards and M60s.
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>>128107428

The British drinking heavily to overcome the sense of futility before Montgomery and going in to battle hungover with no water makes it even worse.
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>>128105920
I have a hard time understanding how you can be good at the f-84 but bad at the f/p-80
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>>128107428

Probably why they worse such light clothing
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There's a severe lack of Spaghett in this thread.
Who hype here for 230mm penetration 90mm HEAT shells?
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>>128107836
fuck off
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>Hull down on the hill hitting the enemy team in the side
>My team is absolute dogshit as usual and get ruined in the town
>Only get 3280rp towards the Centurion Mk3

Fuck this game.
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>>128107836

They could balance that if they made it so it had to stop for a few seconds before it could fire.

It might even be less shit than the Archer.
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>>128107836

Yes please give them sexy pasta planes.
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>>128107964
It's kinda balanced by the fact that the Semovente 90/53 only carried 8 shells.
Unless they include an AI ammo carrier driving behind it all the time.
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>>128107836

Half of them (Italian tanks) are garbage, and the other half never physically existed.

Why would anyone be hyped?
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>>128107670
>>PT-76 has 200mm penetration at any range
What the fuck?
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>>128108034
>tfw no 205
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>>128108080

That makes it more difficult.

8 shots isn't an immediate limitation, so it can severely fuck things up before it runs out.
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>>128107832

I wouldn't like to be in Hans' position there.
Riding around in fucking African heat, having to surrender your tank, and being charged at by bongs with bayoneted LEs.
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>>128108238

We'd have it already if Gaijin wasn't focusing on tanks

Tanks truly ruined this game
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anyone wanna squid up for the ruhr EC?
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>>128106493
>buy it because no one said anything
>it's a fucking wet noodle
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>>128108238

don't italian planes have shit guns?
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>>128108637
>tfw want both plons and ships
>ywn shoot Spitniggers and Jugs out of the sky in you G.55 while German and Italian tanks destroy the remaining Anglo-American at Anzio
>>128108835
Initially yes, but they switched to 2x or 3x German 20mm cannons in 1942.
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>>128108950
>ships
Meant tonks actually.
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>>128108637

Game would be ded without tanks tbqh.
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>>128109090
The opposite is true.
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>>128109153

>gaijin would have got their shit together and fixed all the problems which would have retained the players if it wasn't for those pesky tanks!

Delusion.

Barely anyone talks about planes.

I highly doubt they'd even be here if it wasn't for tanks.
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>>128109294
>I highly doubt they'd even be here if it wasn't for tanks.
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>>128109421

>we want the ded game audience
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where the fuck are you supposed to shoot churchhills? they're fucking nuclear fallout shelters, and nothing damages them even when you DO pen them
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>>128109630
git gud
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>>128109630

III, the turret face and left side of the hull are 80 mm.

VII, the bow MG mount is thin, but not easy to hit. You can sometimes nigger shells between the turret and hull.
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Just unlocked the P51D-30

Is it any good?
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>>128110092
it's truly hard to use
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>>128110092
burger-boo got their wish, it's red tails tier
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>>128110092
It's a significant improvement over the D-5. With automatic supercharger boost and the lengthened tail fin, you'll have no problem setting Naziboos on fire.
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http://warthunder.com/en/news/3504-special-heroes-of-war-thunder-en
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>>128111404
You think the number of team kills will increase?
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BRITISH TANKS IN SIM BATTLES FUCKING WHEN!

I'm sick of playing "realistic"
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>>128111664
Yes. Be sure to TK GoF or [100] players, since those fags always place first.
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>>128111404
>doing tasks for Silver Lions
You basically print that shit en masse. Why would anybody be interested in them?
I mean those quests are not related to Golden Battles. So why bother doing them?
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>>128112020
people actually somehow manage to run out of SL
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>>128111918

>ablooooooooo black prince isn't enough for me to club everything
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>>128112182
>Implying I own any of the premiums

Fuck off Trihax
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>>128108224
HEAT-FS
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>>128107718
Sounds like a fun time.

>>128107832
Shorts in battle will never cease to amuse me.
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>>128112921

Inb4 Rhodesia.
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>>128106039
>Me262 can't take of from any airfield in Sim
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>good plane and tank sounds
>proper weather
>night battles
>sand dust and heat ripple effects on desert maps

WHEN
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>>128115563
Honestly they'd do themselves a favor if they made that amazing sound mod for tank guns from live.wt official and implemented it.
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https://youtu.be/oxRAwVKW6MI
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I'm kinda getting sick of the fact that tanks remain combat effective until only one crewman is left.
I'm pretty sure most tanks wouldn't remain operational after an APHE shell penetrated the turret, exploded inside and killed every crewmember aside from the driver and bow-machinegunner.
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>>128115563
>good maps
>unfucked lighting
>reduced fog/haze

when?
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>We have 3 team members left
>left enemy is in a naziwellington
>We're on cap
>He bombs us
>he wins

Fucking epic. We can do absolutely nothing to him but he can just kill us with pure immunity. I love bombers in ground forces
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>>128115563
>Decent gameplay

when
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>>128116437
mostly your own fault desu
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>>128116227
Generally the crew would bail after the first hit regardless of if it was still technically operational
Don't tempt the gaijew to add a new crew skill for courage
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>>128116437
>dying to a wellington
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>>128116669

>Soviets have higher courage because of barrier troops
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>>128116714
>dodging a 4000 lb bomb
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>>128116614
>>128116714
>A tank can totally do something to a wellington

I see
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>>128116878
>>128116890
there is no excuse for a welly with a 4000lb bomb killing 3 tanks
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>>128116669
this actually sounds like a good idea
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>>128116942
What are you even trying to say?
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>Wellington
>flying straight and level
>drop bomb on control point
>it lands hundreds of meters away
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>>128116437
maybe you shouldn't have been jerking each other off on the cap when you see a fucking bomber coming towards you.

sacrificing a bit of cap RP is better than losing the bonus for winning a match
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>>128116942
ok shitposter
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>>128116992
that it was his own fault he died? If the last enemy is a wellington and your team has three tanks, it's pretty retarded to all stand on the cap
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>>128116942
>event to get top score
>if you want to get top score you have to sit on the cap with everyone else so they don't gain the lead
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>>128117015
>Gamemode with 1 cap
>WELL IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR CAPPING
Truly witnessing true autism in full display

>>128117115
>I knew what he would spawn back in with
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>>128116437
>>128116878
>>128116890
who's got that "i don't think the enemy has any aviation" pic
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why are groundshitter tears so delicious?
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>>128117197
Yes it's your fault for capping.
You were the only tank alive.
You fucking retard.

Obviously the above sentences are sarcastic but if you see a fucking bomber coming in, don't sit on the fucking cap zone if you want to win.

Let him waste his bombs on your team mates then cap after.
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>>128116273
>Ultra-low shitters removed

WHEN
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>>128117697
>I knew he would spawn in a bombers
>just don't cap the point to win
>I was merely pretending before
>I can't read posts

Go back to your porch you monkey
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>>128117879
>I REFUSE TO GET GOOD
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>>128116982
1000 GE for training per crewmember))))))))))))))))))
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>>128117879
>just don't cap the point to win
>instead stay on the cap zone and get bombed by a wellington

Maybe try taking some AA in your lineup you fucking spastic so you can shoot planes down.
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>>128118063
>Tanks can totally kill a bombers 5000 meters up

>>128118184
Yeah man, good fucking idea
>J out to get in AA
>Tickets drain
>How'd this happen????
????????????????????????
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>>128118286
when did capping a point become killing a bomber
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Holy shit I want to buy this.
Next german premium when?

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10346906p/10/1
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>>128118517

Retarded.

This used to be the fully upgraded "Panzer IV" in WoT.
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>>128118286
You could literally go inside the cap zone for a moment, then drive off and the zone would decap and stop the ticket drain.

Stop being a massive whiny shitter and think
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>>128118517
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>>128118517
>>128118657
>>128118675
Can you even fit a Panther F turret on a Pz without it breaking?
And did they do it in real life?
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>>128118727

>In a bid to augment the Panzer IV's firepower, an attempt was made to mate a Schmalturm turret — carrying the longer 75 mm (2.95 in) L/70 tank gun from the developing Panther Ausf. F tank design, and partly developed by Rheinmetall from early 1944 onwards — to a Panzer IV hull. This failed and confirmed that the chassis had reached the limit of its adaptability in both weight and available volume.

It didn't work.
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>>128118405
ok you fucking autist. How are we supposed to win if we don't kill the bomber or cap. Fucking tell me
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