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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/19848/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

Old: >>128042970
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First for game is unplayable
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>control+f
>"/d2g/"
>no results
dotards?
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BEHEAD ALL WHO DON'T MAX UPHEAVAL
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Post "THAT" webm.

You know the one.
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>>128081676
why would it need slashes retard

search terms should always be for the most concise relevant term. which is d2g not /d2g/
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>>128081791
what board are you posting on right now?
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doturds :3
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>>128081791
General names having slashes dates back to when there was whole boards for games, thus /d2g/ is our 'mini board' inside of /vg/

This would be obvious if you weren't retarded
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>>128081787
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>>128081787
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>>128081984
?
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>>128081914
>>128081984
nice straw men. nobody searches for /d2g/ they search for d2g to do otherwise is their own fault for being a bad computist.
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>>128081787
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>>128081787
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>decide to pick up bat since someone picked up necro on my team
>lasso scythe pickoff all day erryday
this is cruel and evil
I LIKE IT
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>>128082131
man fuck that guy

he's like "i'm good looking blonde and athletic! I just beat some guy! look what i can do"

biyyyyOOOOOeeeeeeeoOOOOOp

then he goes home to the most beautiful girl whos his perfect wife, he sits down to play dota and has 3 fun games at 4.5k the perfect mmr, which he wins 2 and loses 3 of
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>>128082131
dat bulge yo
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>>128082229
he's probably a kek considering he's white
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>>128081787
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>>128082171
sauce?
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>>128082171

Which movie ?
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>>128082229
he plays 3 games and manages to win 2 and lose 3?
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>>128082229
lmao
normies amirite???
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>>128082303
they wear cups
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>>128082381
no he played 5 games he won 2 and lost 3
but he still had fun, even though he lost mmr he had a great time, and then he read a nice book and went to bed with a hot toddy

meanwhile i won 2 games tonight but i'm super mad, super super mad right now
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>>128082424
rofl ritsu is a shitskin
SVG is a jew
Is brax white?
also
>loomdun coach
lol
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>>128082424
theeban is a normie
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>>128081787
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>>128082424
>the anime players are all shitskins
hrmmmmm???
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>>128082424
man i used to always say that bamboe was hands down the ugliest dota 2 player

but ritsu seriously just blows him out of the water

how can your skin be the actual color AND consistency/texture of human feces. with hair looking like it has motor oil leaking out from under it
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>>128082507
>and has 3 fun games at 4.5k the perfect mmr, which he wins 2 and loses 3 of
?
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>>128082638
>our lord and saviour EE-sama
>shitskin
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cuties
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whos the better player

ephey or le voice changer man?
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When will the best designed hero in Dota 2 become meta again?


Is only Sonneiko good with him?
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>>128082131
>this is a 10/10 in NA
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>>128082738
>desperately trying to show her shit tattoo
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>>128082762
>disconnect from the game for the first 5 minutes because lmao valve programming
>come back at 4 minutes
>against fed brewmaster at level almost 6 already
>still got 6-0-14
how is this hero balanced again?
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>>128082762
>sonneiko
>good
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>>128082696
Are you actually retarded or what.
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>>128082838
Why are you trying to be mean?
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>>128082901
>Sonneiko
>bad

?
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>>128082901
>sonneiko
>not good
? one of the up and coming players in dota desu
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vlad's feels good man
buy it on every carry i can
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>>128082968
ok let me break this down for ur retarded ass:
he has 3 (THREE) fun games at 4.5k mmr
of which he wins 2 (TWO) and loses 3 (THREE)

adding to a total of 5 (FIVE) which is greater than the originally stated 3 (THREE)

M O R O N
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>>128083090
>not making your supportkek buy it for you
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nth for ppd
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>>128083162
3 fun games and 2 shitty games
whats your point? You think every game is fun?
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>>128082729
>yellow asian
>not shitskin
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>>128082798
reminder that void is a racist depiction of generic asian stereotype
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>>128083285
I cant unsee
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Guys, i lost all motivation to play dota2.

MMR grinding is just boring. I can climb if I spammed the OP heroes but really what's the fucking point?

Think I'm going to go for a walk.
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>>128083238
isn't that a piss-skin?
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>>128082843
Based clan_iraq
Which is the best part of this webm? I say its that whiffed chrono
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>>128082729
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>>128082586
WTF is that exactly?
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>>128083347
I want the dota 2 ranking system to die
it's so underwhelming
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>>128083509
thanks mods
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>5.9k average game
>Prophet 2nd last pick
>Potm roam last pick forcing me to position 5 support from the offlane
I'm never queueing USE again, EUW with 175+ ping is so much better than this shit
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>>128083603
I want to die

my life is so underwhelming
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>>128083231
the "of" in your original statement implies that the 3 and 2 are a subclass of the larger class of 3 (the fun games)

LEARN TO FUCKING WRITE

>i had 2 fun days this summer, which i went skiing for 3 of
does that make sense?
NO RETARD
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>>128083759
anon your pills
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oh hey, our girl is streaming
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>>128083696
>implying he wasn't a janitor himself
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>>128083534
vape

aka retarded shit
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>>128083881
whos better she or clq?
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>>128082424
brax looks like a fucking wreck. someone got the webm of him at frankfurt?
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>>128083828
don't tell a man to get his pills when he's calling you out for being retarded, that's just being even more retarded
retard
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>>128081787

>>128082039

this is fascinating
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>>128083178
why wouldn't you want the stats and mana regen always
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>>128083990
im not even the original guy he responded too

was just funny memeing anon your pills
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i bit my tongue yesterday and it still hurts
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>>128083534
Degeneracy.
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>>128084126
and I'm not the guy who was told to get his pills
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>>128084151
Fail!
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AHH FUCKING FINALLY DOTA TARDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZxQJu0mfGE
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>>128084269
HEHEHE

nice one doturds its like were gossiping about em being r*tarded
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>>128083729
>tfw you'll never nuke yourself
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>>128082973
I'm not trying shit, just a basic slut for beta faggots like you, enjoy your clickbait, faggot.
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Why do people join games if they aren't going to try, ranked or unranked
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>>128083919
What's bigger, his over-inflated ego or his wannabe tendencies?
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>>128084332
nice job cuting off urself, chi long shit
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>tfw I'm an international student too
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>>128084332
haha that was funny how he used all of his shtick right there i love when chi long qua uses his shtick its what i go to his channel for, i'm gonna go donate to his patreon
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>>128082586
>vaping makes you cooler that cigarettes
NA dota, everyone.
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>>128084050
Why is she looking at the camera? Like what is the context of her stream when she starts staring at the camera ans eating???
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game's live guys
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>>128084740
what do you mean?
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>>128083534

A fedora for the mouth
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>>128084845
how many years of prison time will hillary get
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How do I Arc Warden
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troll fuckin warlord
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>>128085153
naked rapier(s)
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>>128083720
>roaming potm

should be illegal in dota worst players worst strat
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>>128085153
midas. even if you're way behind. the reliable gold and xp is just amazing how fast you'll catch up.
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Whats the current meta cancer hero
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damn, ephey's so lewd
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>sunstrike with 5 aether lens + aghs does 800 pure damage
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Reminder that Troll Warlord exists.
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>>128086024
why is she forcing her voice to be cute

i like her but its cringy
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>>128086076
Or you can just pick Lina
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>>128086076
>an ability that is hard to land and has a 60 second cooldown can do less damage than another hero's ability for 14 thousand gold
wow
how is this not meta yeta?
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>>128086024
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>>128086201
It's called trying to bait twitch dollars from beta-cucks (female approach)
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Remember to keep the thread alive by posting.
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>>128086408
lol her """"""""cute""""""""" voice is grating if you actually compare her to real voice that is actually cute

how do they find this attractive
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>>128086521

are you sure she's actually making a voice
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>>128086493
I miss the jacky chan guy posting here :(
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is life stealer even worth picking? What role does he fill? Is he even a carry...? I feel like heroes like PA will out carry the shit out of him. He is so reliant on rage its not even funny. Once rage wears off... what the fuck does he have?
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Good day, visitor from reddit here :^) Which one of you is this?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/844/
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>>128086719
that's me
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@128086719
reported
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>>128086705
He fills the "shit on complete morons while being useless in organized games" category.
Same as Slark.
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Is anyone watching moonduck right now?

I'm so confused what ball sniffer is trying to do. Why would he leave BTS to create this shitty shell of a wacky radio morning show. How do people listen to actionslacks and not want to uninstall this game.

Help me understand /d2g/ I just don't understand why this is exists.
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>>128086719
stfu emily
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>>128086651
yes?


fucking beta cucks, get out of your basements for once so youll know
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>>128086705
Strong right click.

He's basically a Megacreep with limited spell immunity and vlads aura. Until he either gets a major buff to rage like how it used to be or a rework he will forever be relegated to a semi carry initiator at best, and a I don't want to buy vlads but our carry needs lifesteal punching bag for the enemy team at worst.

Old rage was bullshit though.

>>128086781
>hero with two purges, a free Heart, and a short cooldown escape/root that gets stronger the more he hits you
>useless
His early game is rough, but six slotted Slark is a fucking monster that I hate fighting. He can also easily get back into the game after being shut down by a couple good pickoffs. He doesn't need all that much to go ham.
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>manta linkens medusa handily winning in a pro game
uhhhh... dotards??
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>>128086909

m8 I think she's just speaking

she is a slut though, look at that little bit of arm she has showing
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>>128086879
_/ <-- sit bitch
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>>128086872
reddit likes it
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>void is still useless
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>>128086963
But you play with and are possibly a complete moron yourself.
Slark is useless in organized games.
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linken manta medusa is bad guys!!11!1
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>>128087043

>damageless void the BadMagnus
>not useless
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>PGG casting the quals

this is comfy
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>tfw 4 man echo slam
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>>128086076
When did they add the damage bonus?
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>>128087071
I disagree, but he's certainly not a meta pick at any rate. He's not inherently bad, but other carries and semi carries exist that are much better. Jugg has much higher damage output, and his free Heart benefits the entire team, and his purge is way better with Bladefury since it also gives him magic immunity for the duration.
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>>128087364
this reminds me of the game I played yesterday
>pushing towers because we picked a memepush comp
>somebody says "guys group up ES is up"
>literally blinks in and slams that very moment
>does this twice
>we still win
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>>128086719
>>128086973

bitch is edgy as fuck
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>>128086973
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DEAD

THREAD
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who is the most unga bunga dota 2 hero?
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>wake up
>dc lose to blogboy
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Does anyone else think Lyralei is cute?
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>>128087898
https://twitter.com/ArchonHotaruz/status/686054641545515008
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What's the new anime team?
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>>128088001

literally why the fuck can't I see the video

just a black screen
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>>128087898
New Orleans?
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So how much MMR have you guys gained over the last couple days?
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>>128088282
>normal skill

DELETE THIS
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>>128088176
Use chrome or update your FF
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>>128088282
>normal skill
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Best program to torrent that doesn't make me part of the botnet?

Help me linuxbros
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>>128088404
deluge
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>>128088282
>normal skill shit has to resort to abusing omniknight

why do you even care about mmr mate
you'll never be good at games
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>mooncuck studio
>casual cast
>zyori and slacks talking about unrelated stuff
>they show all the draft

>bts
>"le professional studio"
>full set of casters and comentators
>they connect to the draft once it's pretty much over

why?
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>>128088404
linux should go back to being for the initiated. package managers and guis are what breed retarded windows users like this guy here.
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>>128088282
u got carried every fucking game, judging by ur kda

even when i hard support i sometimes end up with more kills and assists and less death that my cores
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>>128086973
>ephey
she was feeling really slutty the other day when she was wearing thigh high stockings. but some homosexual mod banned me for posting a screen shot of her on twitch with them. you guys missed out.
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>>128088282
What are you 1k?
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>>128087364
>tfw 1 man echo slamming some guy i singled out because of his build or hero or steam profile
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>>128088626

are you the same guy that kept lying about how lewd sheever was being on stream
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Does anyone here play Meepo?

Is there any enemy hero that will force you not to choose Meepo? In that case, who do you pick?
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>cdec drafted medusa balanar
whelp, there goes my one and only dc hook
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>>128088748
no, i dont give 2 shits about sheever. are you implying im lying that she was wearing thigh highs? just check her past broadcasts.
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>>128088751
Ogre Magi
Earthshaker
Faceless Void
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>>128088751
any of the other ones i suppose
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>tfw AGDQ is finally over for the year
>tfw I have to come back to /d2g/
so what did I miss?
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>>128088751
disruptor
warlock
lina
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>>128088878
What did you gain watching AGDQ? LOL
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>>128088341
>>128088352
Well I can't just calibrate at 5k, you gotta start somewhere.

>>128088480
>abusing
Ok yeah, more or less. Still, I'd pick him a lot less if people would stop locking in 5 physical damage dealers or a team that relies entirely on magic. Either I don't belong in this MMR or there are people who paid money for a 2k account, cause these people suck.

>>128088570
Well yeah I "got carried" in most of these. I was playing support. But if you're implying I had no impact on my carries going ham you're dumb. I've been getting shittons of commends.
Except my two Phoenix games I was playing like ass. Still did a lot to help but I was totally feeding unintentionally there.

>>128088649
2k
Played supports for my calibration matches. Ended up at like 1.6k. Now I'm up to 2.3k.
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>>128088793

timestamp m8.
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>>128088878
>not watching the qualifiers live and the vods of agdq whenever there's nothing going on

I found the retard guys, stop the search, he's back
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>>128088732
>random brood
>enemy team instalocks ES Shaker and Bounty
>they spend 85% of their time after 10 minutes hunting me while my team wrecks their team 4 vs 3
>ES keeps solo slamming me despite me having the spiderlings away from my main hero at all times
>win
nice "counters" lmao
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>>128088982
4 days ago or so
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>>128088878
>watching a bunch of autists do a fast let's play

Yeah, we don't want you back.
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>>128088969
got to watch awesome games done quickly? :^)
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>you will never move to Japan and grow the dota scene there, and then have japanese girls all over your dick just by being the best player in Japan
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>>128089097
not the type of hero i mean
i mean when i see a dagon necrophos standing in a triple wave
or a mjollnir rush bloodseeker
just putting these fuckers out of commission feels great
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>that feel when your mid and offlane go combined 17-4 and give your carry infinite space
>that feel when your carry still can't carry and you ultimately lose because the enemy carry is better

If these people can't carry in their dream scenario with completely free and open space to free farm, then why do they even pick carry?
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>>128089252

if you are 17-4 you should be taking rax unless one of them is Tinker in which case you will lose the game anyway
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goddamn mira's dick is huge
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NICE FUCKING SWAP LA
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>all these beta orbiters on ephey's stream

Have they literally never seen a vagina

White knighting enables cunts
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>>128088878
>he enjoys watching a bunch of sweaty lame unfunny neckbeard uber spergs, more scummy than grant and without the savage factor, use bugs and glitches to try their hardest not to enjoy a game and make something that manages to be even more competitively worthless than hearthstone
??????
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>>128089296
We lost team fight pushing high ground because the carry didn't come
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>>128089301

?

nose

I meant nose
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>"I want to win the game!"
>*picks razor*

Why does this brain disease still exist?
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>>128089414
>missing one of the greatest gaming events of the year
????
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>>128089252
The only way you can get better at carrying is to play carries. And carry.

Now if people refuse to learn from their mistakes and don't improve that's one thing. But I've taken the time to learn this game. I'd say I'm familiar although hardly an expert with every hero, and I know how to build mostly everyone. I don't particularly like playing carries, I have much more fun with cores and supports. I can carry, but I'm not great at it, although I figure I'll have to keep trying until I am really good at it if I want to break 4k. For now I just want to get to 3k.
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So after watching Ephey, I understand that watching anime as a guy makes you worse at dota, but does it make you better if you're a girl?
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why is fluff always such a drama queen?
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>>128089630

>there will never be an asian girl starring on the czech gangbang series

sigh
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Guess the mmr

also
>show em'
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>>128089003
>not the other way around

what why are you even here
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>>128089630
i don't see the appeal in most of these games. like it's cool seeing people beat a level in mario by running at full speed but the games they play are so fucking slow paced and they use bugs to jump to the last boss anyway.
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>>128089703

He's literally crazy and on the verge of going on a killing spree
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>>128082352
>>128082365
Asian guy is Donnie Yen. I'm guessing it's one of those Ip Man films.
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>>128089630
>missing an event that's fucking borin and with aboslutely no value
>he likes it cos other turbo nerds like it
lol

how do u fall lower than warhammer players and people who play the weeb idol game?
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>>128089703
>tfw no more blogs to make fun of and panic about
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If you started playing DotA 2 after 2011, please fuck off back to League.
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Why the fuck is the micro in this game so stupid?

If I have 4 Meepo clones selected, I can't just press CTRL + W and make them all do the same action. I have to Wclick tab Wclick tab Wclick tab Wclick. That's needlessly complex and stupid. Starcraft doesn't make me tab through every individual space marine and press T to get them all to frenzy, I just select all of them and press T and they all frenzy. Why can't I do that in dota? Why is this game so shit?
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>>128090052
>he doesn't use ensage
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>>128090052
>he doesnt know
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>>128090052

starcraft is an easy peasy shit game that panders to casuals and korean robots
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>>128089703
do you guys think he's self aware of the fact that he's just some nerd playing in small leagues in a a game that's not even skill or thought intensive except for the captain's role?

like all this turd "inspirational" bullshit for dota is so autistic, so is jimmy's. Maybe when he does something big like a documentary or a charity drive or he's donald trump or some shit
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>ephey, a girl, is better than me at dota

Should I kill myself?
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>>128090413
top 2 na though
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>>128087976
she is cute!!!
rawr!
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>>128088282
Also this is one of the few guys I actually lost against.
He's got a 92% winrate with Arc Warden. I'm pretty sure he's a smurf or something.
The weirdest part is he's in Normal Skill now, but 20 days ago he was in Very High Skill. And he just drops from VHS to Normal like immediately.
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>>128090420
You should practice with me, qt
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>>128089903
what's wrong with playing the weeb idol game?
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>>128090328
did you abandon any decency and self respect you had and just shitposted as hard as you could or do you actually believe this
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>>128090602
>posting common knowledge is shitposting

woah
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>>128090602

Starcraft 2 is some weird and badly made mod of Broodwar.
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>>128090517
Fuck off dude I'm not one of your anime fuccbois
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>>128090328
Don't care if it is or not. At least they don't make me tab through every individual space marine to press T on each and every one so that I can get a group of frenzied marines.

There is no way to just make all of the units in my selected group do the same action. I have to go through each one and tell them individually to do it. That's fucking stupid.
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>>128090695
lol ok

>>128090702
that's a more reasonable statement
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>>128087043
All void really contributes now is just creating teamfights and annoying enemies with his 6s cd timelapse and pseudo silence. If you're picking him you effectively need the other 4 players on your team to be ranged dps/nukes, and build nothing but tanky items + aghs/rfo
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>>128090007
i played league when doturd was in beta and not giving any invites

now came back and 5k.
u mad doturd?
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>>128090753
Oh, don't worry, I'm a lesbian :)
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>>128090882
if you don't instantly realize why that comparison is completely retarded you should seek professional help, pretty sure you could get a paycheck every month doing nothing
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>>128090984
Void still has the same potential damage output though, you're not FORCED to build pure tank. You can get a Mjollnir or something too.
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>>128087976
>>128090446
I fuckign hate gingers
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when dont you buy blademail
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>>128084645
the amount that I'm laughing at you trying to mock the current champ
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Jesus fuck why do I ever play ranked, why can't they put a good mode in ranked, all they need is public captains mode with a single ban/pick per player
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>>128091186
you never buy blademail

it's a honeypot item
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>>128088282
Just a heads up, you're only winning because enemy teams hardly ever ward or even support at that mmr, so your team has a massive advantage. You probably won't make it into 3k if you don't start practicing with some carries for when that changes.
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>>128091152
>Void still has the same potential damage output though

Which is zero.
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Good god these fucking queue times.
I'm just going to go play league at this point.
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>>128086309
Where did she answer that?
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>>128087496
Jugg doesn't have a root, nor does he have a reliable escape. Also Slark is better in drawn out fights and is less spell reliant. Also he builds differently and can offlane in the absolute worst case scenario.
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>>128091180
why? anon

did they bully you at school?
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>>128091316

>bot match (passive)
>US east
>all pick

Say hello to Jimmy for me.
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>>128088352
Alex Valle wouldn't laugh at a new player, you're soiling his image with this anti-casual bullshit you faggot
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>>128091321
Her Ask fm which you can find on her twitch page.
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>>128091316
why would you ever queue for a Passive bot match? you can do it solo without queueing and you're getting the same experience.
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>go mid
>see bristleback
>maxed spray
>harasses me out of lane

WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE
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how the fuck do you lose to this?
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>>128089765
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>>128091191
>current champ
Sumail's in the past. This is the true chosen one.
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>>128091486
played literally anyone besides the right clicker you obviously chose
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What the fuck was Newbee's plan? They have no late game
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>>128091486

Cuck him with magic stick
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Why is Medusa suddenly meta? Mystic snake changes doesn't make her a good hero.
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>>128091534
>Sumail is in the past
>TI5 is also in the past
victory is forever, anon
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>>128091614
Medusa is terrible. Lack of mobility really kills her.
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>>128091463
he would laugh at them for not being committed enough to
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>>128091594
>>128091553
but that only keeps me alive
how do i stop him killing wave after wave
he just sprays everywhere and gold falls out of his ass
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>>128091669
>mobility

hello league babby
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>>128091594
I almost always buy a magic stick. No matter the lane, no matter the role.

>>128091614
It's more than the other late game carries have been nerfed than Medusa getting better.
Although I will say her new Mystic Snake is actually a good ability. It does make her a lot better than she used to be, although she's still a situational pick.
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>>128081582
someone add *thatsign* im bored af and will fill roles
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>>128090052
Because Valve doesn't give a single fuck.
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>>128082346
what is he looking for?
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>>128090052
Because that would be broken
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>>128090052
Because it's WARCRAFT controls you shitstain motherfucker

Also, you'd be the type to not Tab+Q on Meepo, making it a 2 second stun instead of a stuttered 10 second stun
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>>128091343
>Slark
>is less spell reliant
Ok go Exort only and tell me how it works out.
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>fearing the flames
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>>128090592
lol
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>>128091463
>Alex Valle wouldn't laugh at a new player,
how to spot a stream lard that has never talked to alex valle before

the guy talks shit, and everyone says that back in the day he was a fucking asshole
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