>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/
>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Kj5FyHCY
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx
>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
>Previous Thread
>>127452235
first for white was right
>>127801175
First for oh yeah bby
SMT x Gundam
I wouldn't mind at all if this thread died.
Physical (Dex/Guns) or Magic build for first time SMTIV playthrough? I know magic is great in DeSu, and I vaguely remember struggling with a physical build in Nocturne but that was years ago.
>>127802675
Doesn't matter but the STR stat is useless in IV.
If you do DEX also put a lot into LUK.
>>127802675
DEX relies on multi-hits, and MAG relies on nuking your enemies with a strong blow. It all comes down to what you find to be the most fun.
>>127802246
Who is the Char of SMT?
>>127802946
Dagda has his VA.
>>127802554
What's wrong with it this time?
>>127802554
>>127802797
>>127802941
Ah so one doesn't really stand out compared to the other? Seems like other SMT games there's always one build that outclasses the others.
Probably going to go Dex then since I like using Demons for magic.
>yfw this song comes on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gu6mz3Hp7k
I think a proper historical SMT or spinoff would be cool.
>>127804257
What demon outbreak would Atlus cover?
>tfw you named Raidou Raidou in Raidou1 and now get confused when people talk to him
what the h*ck
>>127804686
I'm sure they could find some event and twist it as the work of demons. Maybe the Justinian Plague or something like that could work.
What am I supposed to do in burial chambers?Also how long on average does it take to finish amala's labyrinth?
>>127805292
I will name my Raidou as Lupin.
>>127802797
So I should've been dumping into Dex even if I'm not using guns?
>>127805682
Those are areas to do a boss rush, if you can't do anything with them, it means that you still haven't faced the boss of that specific chamber.
If by the end of the game you beat every boss from those chambers in "X" number of turns or less, you earn a very neat bonus for your NG+It takes a shit ton, but of course, you don' have to tackle it all at once.
>>127805682
You can refight all bosses in some kind of Time Trial that counts turns. If you beat all of them in a certain turn limit you can get an extra turn in NG+.
Don't bother with it until you want full completion.
Also Labyrinth takes quite a bit without guides. I'd say at least 6 hours.Always willing to help out if you can't find the way
>>127806310
Yes, since you can still use physical skills.
But if you want to survive Naraku, you should focus on agility and luck first. And once you get the gun, you can begin dumping most of your points into DEX.
How much time do you take to finish these games?
Which is the game that took you the least time to complete?
For me, these games usually last me from 4 to 8 months in average.
And the game that took me the least time to complete was P4, which I finished in a month because it was my first megaten and that game absorbed me completely.
It's not even my favorite one anymore, and I don't know how would it hold up now that I have played many other megatens.
>>127804686
French Revolution. Or Russian, that'd be neat too
>Snappy resists Phys and absorbs Magic
>1068 HP
What the FUCK am I supposed to do about this?
>>127808303Keep using magic
>>127806394
>>127806421
Does the game note you on the required turns for each boss? The text changed for the bosses I defeated, but I don't know if I did well or not.
6 hours is actually short in my book, but I assume it'll take me much longer because I'm already fucking confused by it.
>>127808303It's a trick, his weakness is magic.
>>127808713
If you beat the Turnlimit the Text on the Tombstone becomes red.
You probably need to hunt for all the fiends too. On what floor are you and how much time have you spent in there yet?
Juicy thick feminine dick!
>>127809189
I just started it, on the second kalpa. There's a soul on the first that tells you if there are fiends around, she says there aren't any I should be looking for so I assume I'm fine for now?
>>127810028
Yeah you're fine until the 3rd. But considering you said you're late into the game none of the fights should really be a challenge anymore.
Strange Journey is shit.
Is there such a thing as SMT speedruns? I like speedrunning and SMT but i've never seen someone speedrun a SMT game.
>>127804024
10/10
Love how they keep reusing this music from SMT I.
>>127813405
/thread
guys I just read the tips and tricks for devil survivor overclocked after my first playthrough and physical isn't really all that hard!
Surely annoying at times, because of murmur and its stupid phys reflect but those were barely ever the leading demon so you could defeat the squad anyways
I just went full glass cannon 40 Str and maxed out AG after that as far as I could until I beat day8
there was nothing but the final boss that Multi-Strike (PhysAmp + Pierce + Drain Hit) didn't oneshot and left me at full HP for the next fight
With that magnetide thing every single Demon in my team had Samarecarm and they just kept reviving eachother, while they spammed shield alls and some Megidolaons. I feel like I unlocked half of all possible titles on my first playthrough and I'm missing only the story ones now
>>127815170
what.
>>127813691
There is a speedrun of most games. I know some japs on Nico did stuff for Nocturne for example and the fastest time for TDE, hard is like 13h.
>>127815286
after beating the game I remembered we have pastebins with tips for newer players and those pretend that going physical only would be insane or something.
happyyear of the monkey
>>127815170
That's fucking great.
My endgame Atsuro also had the same set-up, but of course your MC must be way more powerful.
I think the main issue from going physical is that many demons reflect or null those attacks, all while Holy Dance gets the job done without a single risk.
What party member did you use for ocasions like that one?
For example, I just came back from beating Bishamon, and I decided to bench my physical users because all the minions of the map had physical repel.Haru is second best girl.
>>127816513
Nice Amane. Don't have that one saved.
But now I do. Thanks.
>>127816513
well I spotted first megido and then Megidolaeon and cracked both of those to give to my healers in case something has reflect
nullify and drain are both ignored with pierce and more often than not its very possible to just ignore reflect (In some cases I was extra bold and just replaced drain-hit with phys drain and healed myself on the phys reflect users)
While Metatron couldn't be oneshot I still beat him in a single turn because of based double up. In chapters prior to that fight I even had animal leg + double up and just zoomed around the map with only the Hero deployed to steal all the exp.
the best party member after Hero was ~950hp Kaido with Final strike.
How's the difficulty of SMT1?
Seeing as how it's a SNES RPG I imagine it would go in the hundreds in terms of play time hours.
ONE
>>127818879
MORE
>>127818867
More like 40 according to howlongtobeat.
SMT x League of Legends featuringAsh Ketchum from the Pokémon series
>>127819241
I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST.
>>127819314
THE BEST THERE EVER WAS
TO CATCH
ONE
>>127819408
TO KILL THEM IS MY REAL TEST
>>127819582
REJECT ALL THE GODS
>>127818867
It's easy, just use the maps on GameFAQ
I guess I should also note, part of the reason it's easy is that we know how to break it.
>>127802043
This friend of mine doesn't know a thing about smt but man all she talks about is wanting nothingness its the most annoying thing ever to help her get over.
>>127820298
Have her play SMT and maybe see a psychiatrist.
>>127818867
The game is tough until you get through Ginza and Ikebukuro. After, it gets easy since you get so powerful. The only hard bosses are the two null physical ones.
The difficulty comes more from the sheer numbers of enemies you face and the lengths of the dungeons. It's a game of attrition of sorts.
>fenrir's 8 bit render is better designed than his soul hacker render
It's like he's a sleeping beast you musn't wake up!
The SH one is just "AYYYYY I'm an electric dog!"
>>127243343
P1 guy, did you finish it? You were really close.
>>127823198
What doesn't Fenrir's bark sound like?Spark spark!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_zihFRp7So
Is there a way to make money fast besides getting lucky enough to run into Omoikanes or however they're spelled? I already have the rich equipped.
>It was march of last year when I last played SMT1
sucks to think i might never finish
>>127833841
Do you remember how far you got?
>>127835287
Had just nuked Tokyo, was having issues with MAGit turns out my savestate has been wiped for quite some time. I'm actually about an hour into the game, apparently.
>>127836337
Hmmm, it's weird you were having issues with MAG in SMT1.
Oh boy.Glad I get to kill him again
SMT x Senran Kagura
SMT x SpongeBob SquarePants
SMT x Katawa Shoujo
SMT x Rocky and Bullwinkle
SMT x Persona
SMT xded
SMT x Dwarf Fortress
SMT X Supernatural
I really hate that puzzle in Nocturne.
>>127841920
Is that Demi-Fiend?
>>127842635
Yes.
poast SMT wallpapers
>>127842967
>>127842967
I played Nocturne for the first time a year ago while deliriously ill and have had a hard time believing any of that was real since.
I just started playing it again for a second run through while lucid, and... huh. The art direction is fucking outstanding, better than I remember save for Chiaki's knee pads that make her legs look like giant misshapen fingers stuffed into boots but this gameplay...
>Suicide espionage run boss to discover moveset and weakness
>Die
>Redo entire party into something that resists boss while exploiting weakness
>BUFF BUFF BUFF BUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF
>Repeat for every boss
SMT 1-2's gameplay is nowhere near as deep and has its own issues, but I really liked not running into brick walls at every boss that required me to have a specific party layout in order to proceed. Also this story sucks shit when I'm not blasted out of my mind on cold medicine. Any tips to make this more fun?Started getting sick again the same day I picked this up again. Game is fucking cursed.
>>127842967
I'm afraid that FINAL's cathedral of shadows theme won't be as good as this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wwq1ywWsbY
how do i end the pain /smtg/?
>>127841015
I thought this was from smt when I saw it in that thread.
>>127844697
the red background makes it look like something from nocturne
>>127844697
Is it seriously from SK?
>>127844010
Where are you right now? It sounds like you have garbage demons, get better at fusing, your Demi-fiend should do most of the work in boss battles anyway.Chiaki a cute.
>>127844950
Yes. It's a giant Yoma. Heres another one
>>127843847
found a bigger version of this
>>127845132
Dang. Which game? The newest one?
The first pic kinda reminded me of Castlevania.
>>127845132
I never would have thought the titty game of the year would have such nice monsters.
name a game with a better ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY
>>127845260
But it doesn't have the lower left letters lovingly edited out with MS Paint.
>>127845610
Nier.
>>127844010
>save for Chiaki's knee pads that make her legs look like giant misshapen fingers stuffed into boots
Fuck you, now I see it too.
And yeah, Nocturne kinda has that issue, that it is very easy to get completely blasted during your first attempt at a boss. I guess you only need to be very careful at fusing to prevent such things.
The story is totally minimalistic, it's only good enough to let you know that you are progressing through the game.
Keep playing to see if the game grows on you, or get sick again.
>>127845841
the space behind it seems to be black. nothing the paint bucket tool cant fix in under a minute
>>127820470
>Play SMT and maybe see a psychiatrist
Those seem like conflicting actions
>>127846224
What do you think?
>>127807604
I'm still on my first(SMT IV) and I started beginning of last month, I'm about 75 hours in and in Blasted Tokyo right now, I probably would've finished by now but fusing demons and doing challenge quests is a lot of fun.
>>127846637
nice
![SMT-IV-F-Screenshot-4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DUU33Nc.jpg "SMT-IV-F-Screenshot-4[1].jpg")
Will STR be useful this time around?
>>127842967
>>127846936
No.
That file probably comes from someone who abuses with his saves, relies completely in the new partner mechanic, and uses Charon every time.
>>127842967
>these pleb papes
>>127846936
>61 STR
>12 DEX
Completely forgot about these until today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSh_wsMIV0
>>127848172
>that res/aspect ratio
y tho
>>127848571
You forgot about the shit that gets posted every three threads?
>>127848352
The most triggering thing is:
>has a physical build
>still gives a slight priority to magic, and balances agility and luck
>>127848930
Considering that these threads last three weeks, can you blame him?
>>127849719
>ESL
>>127849719
They actually last one week, sometimes even 5 days or less.
SMT x Tom Cruise
>>127849813
Three months, sorry my English is poor, I know.DEAD
Will Final raise us from the dead?
>>127851629
No, but I know in my heart DDS3 is right around the corner.
Will we be abandon and then be fused with are retarded cousin/pg/?
>>127852219
No, my ESL friend.
Do you prefer the PS1 or PSP P2 OSTs?
>>127854340
I prefer the PSP version, with the exception of Knights of the Holy Spear. I like the PS1 version of that song much more than the remake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deicide_in_fiction
How should I be building my character in SMTIV?
>>127845297
Its from Senran Kagura 2, for the 3ds. I got it expecting a stupid titty game, but was surprisingly moved by its storyline.
>>127858786
Haven't played it, but magic builds are the way to go in these games from what I've seen.
>>127854340
I didn't really listen to the PSP OST much. I set it to use the original OST when I played IS. EP's PS1 OST is forever ingrained in my head and I have no complaints at all.
>>127858786
Either go with a magic build with some agility and luck on the side, or make a dexterity build with lots of luck and a decent amount of agility. Strength is shit.
Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy DeSu2 for DS instead of 3DS? The graphics don't look to have had made a major leap, and the gameplay is pretty much the same. I can also live without voice acting since dubs are a shit.
Does anyone have that vid of that kid fighting the bed and with nocturne effects on it
>>127861402
2 has more story.
>>127861684
I know, I'm asking whether the improvements made in the 3DS version are actually worth the extra $25.
>>127861684
Sorry, I shouldn't type while distracted. I meant the second version, aka 3DS.
It made sense in my mind...
>>127861750
While it has more content, pretty much everyone shits on it. So maybe wait for a discount, unless you have money to burn? Or emulate the DS version to decide if you like it enough to pay for more.
return of kaneko when
>>127865319
Never ever.
>>127865319
He is surely making DDS3 for PS4 as we speak.
>>127865562
Suck it.
>>127865954
That's gay.
>>127866110
It's not gay if it's a girl's dick, man.
>>127866150
No, it's still gay. A dick is a dick.
futa is shit
>>127866218
Let's track down Kaneko and see what he thinks of feminine dicks and whether it's gay to suck them.
>>127866609
No one likes how dicks look.
>tfw finally got CFW on 3DS and now I won't have to wait for the NEVER EVER release of Europe SMT IV:F
>>127868185
>implying it's even leaving Japan
Seriously though, localization announcements when? It comes out in a month; even the SMT IV localization announcement wasn't this late.
>>127868446
Watch it not get announced until after P5 releases.
>>127868615
D-Don't say that anon.
>>127868698
I wouldn't put it past Atlus USA.
>>127847587
>>127848352
>tfw you went a str build and didn't have any trouble throughout the whole game
>>127869151
The game is so easy you have to intentionally gimp yourself to get any sort of a challenge.
ded thred
Is anyone here planning to play Final on release? I don't know japanese but i will give it a try.
>>127871080
i sold my 3ds after i finished smt4 because videogames are children and it's time to grow up
>>127871440
Why are you here?
>>127871538
memes
>>127871623
Why are you so concerned with childish things when you're not even 18 yet?
>>127808713
The red text that show if you beat the record is hard to see so put the color on your TV on max or you will probably miss it.
Holy shit I just got my first SMT streetpass!!!
>>127842012
Which one? I don't remember anything difficult but I haven't finished it yetI'm a dungeon or two away from completion
>tfw want to play
>won't have much time today, who knows what'll happen tonorrow
>still post here instead of playing
I should get back to the game
>>127807604
Usually a month for a game (40-60 hours).
>>127807604
SMT2 lasts 20-25 hours.
I don't know how people can play more time than that i was almost max stats by that time i was just getting lost on the dungeons.
Lol i stumbled over Satan and killed it without problem.
Is there going to be a "White" ending every game now?
Random thought I had while bored at work:
Is Final going to be the first game where someone actually says YHVH's name out loud in a voiced scene?
>>127874886
Congrats bro, feels good. I live in a city and am always pleasantly surprised that I get SMTIV street-passes daily, and SH passes regularly too.
>>127877995
it can't be done so no
I just beat Mishaguji in Raidou1 and god damn this must be one of the worst fights across Megaten games.
>Hitbox of Tailswipe attack is about 20times larger than it is visually
>Heals are based on max HP so if he charms a demon with heal spells he's immediately at full HP again
>absolutely awful camera
>stupid demon AI can't dodge the charm attack
Fuck him
>>127861517
Spent 30 min looking for it through my yt history and search terms. I have no idea what to look for in order to find it again.
>>127861517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMk5PL2bjg
>>127879413
Isn't it just pronounced "yah-whey"?
>>127874886
high five anon, I got my first one on new years eve of all times
>>127881380
Thanks for the vid anon. And as far as I know YHVH doesn't have a defined pronunciation. "The lord" is usually used as a subtstitute as far as I know. Might be wrong tho.
>>127848571
>the second video
What the fuck?
>>127881539
>as far as I know... as far as I know
brb sleeping
>>127881691
>he doesn't know that Mastema, Mastema, Mastema is trustworthy!
Hoy bump.
"YHVH" isn't meant to be pronounced; the Chosen Race say "Adonai" meaning "lord" which is what is indicated by the vowel markings in Hebrew.
>>127886018
Yeah, but you're also not meant to punch him in the face, but that hasn't stopped us yet.
>>127886018
dumb jewposter
>>127807604
The 3D games usually take you a week or less to complete.
I know SMT1 is supposed to take a month to finish if you weren't so overleveled. The dungeons also are giant if you are trying to complete the map.
>>127818867
Finished it a few days ago lad.
It's really easy, the game is not dificult at all. The random encounter rate is fucked up so every time you take a step you fight 3 hordes of enemies, you end up overleveled. The bosses aren't dificult if you have certain party members with you. I beat almost every single boss in SMT1 by using Zio/Charm bullets, stunning them and taking away their turn.
Fusing demons is terrible, the menus are really slow. Also, at least to me, it felt like every single demon fusion resulted in a fucking slime.
The dungeons are big and i suggest you use a map if you don't want to spend a lot of time in them. By Ginza i gave up on exploring everything because i already had a high level.
Alignments are important, Neutral makes everything easier since you can summon both Law and Chaos demons.
Inventory space is ridiculous and makes buying new armor and weapons a chore.
>>127887936
>fuse chernobog
>think I'm real fucking cool for having it
>has a miserable attack animation making it do fucking nothing in combat
>>127887750
>mfw the PS version gives you way more inventory space, the ability to easily sort items and puts gems in an extra item area, and view type/stats/sexes for equipment
>>127887936
I like the concept a lot. It just feels like there are a ton of technical aspects I feel could be improved.
>>127888538
I still wonder why i didn't play the IOS version.
>>127888616
I think i fucked up my post.
Raidou 1 is great until you play Raidou 2 and realize that Raidou 1 is bad.
Raidou 2 fixed everything wrong with Raidou 1 gameplay.
Maybe I'm just slow, but this 'Hijiri is Aleph' thing is complete shit right?
>The fake YHVH that the archangels create is the one that promises to smite Aleph over and over again
>The actual YHVH just says he's going to come back to life whenever people pray for salvation
>Nocturne introduces multiple universe theory, so why is it necessarily Aleph that commits the ultimate sin?
>Why not pic related?
>Cerberus shows you his 'master's tomb' which turns out to be Izanagi's tomb suggesting it is far closer to the Megami Tensei universe anyway
Also, what the fuck is up with the infinite universe thing in SMT? Are there multiple YHVHs? If so, how/why do they tolerate each other since smiting 'false' gods is his whole schtick? Or is there just one that preys on multiple worlds at random? Does the universe thing serve any purpose other than to canonize spin-offs (and utterly trivialize the events of each individual game by making the demon apocalypse a mundane, regular occurrence)?
>>127881380
thanks.
>>127888750
Is there anything you can transfer from Raidou1 to Raidou2 like with DDS? Because I'm playing on console and I won't be able to play 2 on console.
>>127818867
Like what >>127819981 says, it's an easy game for people who know how SMT works because, well, we know how it works. This is true for a lot of games, but I feel it's especially true for SMT since a lot of the challenge of the games is understanding the intricacies of the battle system and the demon/fusion system
for example, >>127887750 perfectly illustrates this since he knows to abuse Zio/charm spam to cheese the shit out of demons. Charm shit is only readily available for demons at around the low-20s (Heroine gets Marin Karin, but that's single target) until you get access to Charm bullets like halfway through the game and Zio spam is impossible unless you expressly go out of your way to retain zio spamming demons who are also fast or build the heroine in a specific manner (MAG/AGI points all the way) which already implies a level of foreknowledge about the game. Arguably Law Hero's bufu spam also works but that implies you build the Law Hero a certain way as well.
Personally I'd argue that the game is more 'tedious' than difficult once you know how it works (basically by figuring out the fusion system and the spell proficiency shit to allow your human partners to learn their good spells asap). Most of the challenge is in dungeon crawling and surviving the insane encounter rate, because let's face it bosses are pretty much just there to clean up your party after particularly difficult dungeon crawls. It's old-school that way
>>127891760
Some low level demons will 'rejoin' you for free. I forget if there's other things.
>>127890901
actual YHVH curses the shit out of Aleph and Hiroko too, anon. Go back to their final fight, before you fight YHVH he bitches at Aleph for being an artificial messiah and Hiroko for giving birth to him, promises he'l torture the shit out of them in hell, then when he gets bored he'll reincarnate the two and then repeat the process all over again
>>127879413
>it can't be done
Why not anon?
>>127892140
Whoops, I did the Chaos ending where he and Lucifer just get catty with each other and ignore you for the most part.
The rest of my points still stand though. This only makes my questions more complicated.
>>127861402
>spending money on a obsolete game
Either buy the 3DS version or pirate the DS version.
>>127893186
>going chaos
What the hell is this about the general moving to a skype group? Fuck off you circlejerking faggots.
>>127895824
I don't even have a skype account. Don't leave me please.
Whats the best non dlc armor for magic MC in SMT IV?
>>127895824
>he hasn't moved to the skype group yet
>>127896020
Why don't you look up the list of armors in SMTIV and decide for yourself?
/r/ing the screenshot of Nanashi in a dress pls
>>127895824
Wait, is this true?
That's pretty good news. All those faggots who came here because "only place on the internet where one can discuss SMT without Persona" and didn't even know about the glorious traditional shit of 4chan can leave and never ever come here again.
I'm moved to tears. All these threads without tumblr, it will be great.
>>127896574
>>>/wsr/
>>127895824
"Hey! Shut up about pancakes! Like! GOD, CANT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE" -u
This meme is stale. There was one faggot saying to make a skpe group and like 3 guys explaining how that'd go to shit.
Let
It
Go
M8
>>127895824
>>127896735
Stop forcing this meme you faggots
>>127896020
Magic builds barely need stats.
You just get 99 in magic and laugh.
>>127881380
>>127892709
That's a BS thing that modern Christians arbitrarily decided. The whole idea of YHVH is that it is an unpronouncable substitiute for the unspeakable name of God.
>>127886684
Fuck yourself, this whole series takes tons of lore from Judaism and that poster is 100% correct.
>>127901349
I'm at 402 MAG. I think I have a problem.
>>127901743
>that poster is 100% correct.
>messian rubbing hands.png
The katakana for YHVH is エホバ
>>127905345
>E ho ba
So Jehova?
>>127905345
That's Jehova anon
>>127905575
Did I say it wasn't?
>>127905345
>YHVH
>エホバ
>Ehoba
>Yeehovah
>Heehovah
>Hee ho
My god...
>>127896574
>>127905773
He looks ita.
>>127905773
감사합니다
>Finally convince wife to play SMT1
>Makes it back to nuked Shinjuku at around lvl16
>Gets jumped by level 99 Fiend David
>Hero becomes immediately smitten with David's melodies
>Law and Chaos Hero get fucking wrecked
>I remember that bosses are easily charmed in SMT1
>Give shitty advice to charm him back
>All surviving demons begin Sexy Dancing to no avail
>David plays his fiddle for multiple turns before tiring of their dancing and one-shots them each in turn
>Charmed Hero on constant life support, consuming all healing items including Soma from the Diamond Realm
>Everyone is dead, except for the transfixed Hero
>In between bouts of lovesickness, Hero manages occasional chip damage
>She manages to survive Mr. Bones' Wild Hoedown for upwards of 30 minutes until suddenly-
>DAVID
>WAS
>DEFEATED
>HERO GAINED FIVE BILLION EXP
>PLEASE DISTRIBUTE F POINTS because the points counter can't count above 9
>Breezes through the game with overleveled as fuck demons until just after the Ikebukuro prison break
>Gets bored and drops it for Bloodborne
>One year later
>Finally convince wife to play Strange Journey
>Gets to scripted Fiend David event in Bootes
>Disappointed by the ensuing pisseasy curbstomp
>Gets bored shortly thereafter and drops it for the Old Hunters DLC
goddamned skeletons
>>127906580
>bloodborne
>SJ
She's got good taste.
What the fuck is wrong with the encounter rate in DDS
There's a battle every three fucking steps
What the fuck
>>127908189
get estoma
>>127891903
> Most of the challenge is in dungeon crawling and surviving the insane encounter rate.
This, SMT1 is tedious because you'll be hitting the AUTO button most of the game.
You also can buy Nerve Bullets, that makes enemies sleep, before thenuke. You can cheese the game from start to finish.
>>127908189
Learn to love the encounter rate, and look forward to DDS2 which cut the rate in half or more.
>>127906580
> Get killed by David
> 1/256 chance to encounter him again
> Can't get revenge
> Some anon's wife who has no knowledge of SMT beats him.
Google is being a shit, can someone post the SUP BITCHES MC IS BACK IN BLACK TO MACK SOME TACKS pic?
>>127909002
This one?
>>127909242
Yep! Thanks!
Why do most if not all hardcore smt games lack in the story department? Great characters, but pretty shit stories. Sans persona and devil survivor.
>>127909451
>Great characters
>>127909451
>hardcore smt games
>sans persona
>great characters
>shit story
isthisb8
>>127909526
Youre right, I exaggerated. Hardcore smt characters are about as dimensional as a cardboard fucking box.
>>127909451
Characters never really are a focus or strong point.
>>127909451
>Great characters
>Devil Survivor
About as much personality as writing a half-assed plot on tissue paper.
>>127909694
>>127909625
do you know what sans means
>>127909845
Do you?
>>127909970
yeah they're saying minus
>>127877321
>Every game
Anon, it took 11 years of Persona success before they made IV, do you really think we're getting another games after Final?
>>127910039
And that's supposed to modify shit stories. There's no way it couldn't because even though DeSu and Persona characters tend to be poorly written as well, they still do more than just act as a vehicle for an alignment.
>>127909625
Characters don't have to tell you their life story to be good.
For instance, I think Law/Chaos hero are better characters than Isamu and Chiaki.
>>127909694
What did you not like about desu? >>127910163
I hope not. SMT IV was a bit of a letdown. They should reboot the entire series desu senpai
>>127910380
That's not really saying much.
>>127910163
SJ came out in 2009 anon.
>>127910380
I did the Law route on SMT1 recently out of curiosity and holy shit. Watching Law Hero spiral into fanatical madness was way more depressing and horrible than I was expecting.
Law/Chaos Hero, Lilith, the Psychodiver, Red/Black Baron, Lucifer, Hiroko, Cerberus, Zayin, and tons more I'm forgetting- the initial storyline of 1-2 was supermassive in scope and had tons of great characters, hampered only by memory limitations. Even the random encounters you talk to, despite not being particularly deep, are often more unique and charming than most scripted NPCs in your average game.
Realizing that you meet and talk with almost everyone in the Hall of Champions over the course of SMT2 was a trip. A++ world building.
>>127909451
You left out DDS.
>>127914993
The Matrix: JRPG edition
>>127915704
There really aren't many similarities.
Don't know if anyone has seen this yet but: http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-producer-teases-next-project/
>>127917726
DDS3 confirmed!
>>127917726
Persona 4 Dancing All Night Every Other Night confirmed!
>>127917726
this >>127917929
or a new home-console mainline SMT
>>127917726
Raidou 3 on the PS4 confirmed!
>>127918158
>>127918249
3DS is just about kill and FINAL was meant to be the last milking of the system they could do, so it probably is a console game. P5's engine and assets must be far enough long to make a console game out of it.
>>127908309
>tfw I abused Riberoma in DDS
>tfw made mad dosh and was never lacking in skills for boss fights
>>127918712
Thank god, I want another console Megaten that isn't fucking Persona.
Vita
>>127890901
Its just a theory fans created while trying to connect Nocturne with the previous entries.
