bdubs edition
>Whats New:
Greymane on the 12th maybe
>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/
>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.
>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Previously on /hotsg/: >>127041923
I now abandon every game that I see a Murky in, my team or otherwise.
What a dumb fucking retarded concept for a hero. It's impossible to put in words how much of a chore it is to fight against it, and how much of a deadweight it is when it's in our team.
There is zero satisfaction in killing it, and is the only hero that feels this way. Even if you have one Nova/Zeratul hunt an Abathur, killing it will temporarily remove it from the game guaranteed. Even if you find the Murky's egg, you still have to kill the Murky afterwards. And even then, if you can't do it fast enough it can just replace his egg and the cycle starts all over.
To top it all off, its default design is the epitome of LOLRANDUM humor that so far is only present in some skins.
Second for
>THE HUNT IS ON
johanna is best girl, prove me wrong
>>127150803
stupid haircut
>>127150284
If Murky makes you upset you should get gud
useless fucking hero provided one of you picked a support, hardcountered by a level 7 talent
Can someone explain to me how we won this game?
On day closer to our chieftain
When's Rock n Roll Racing get its rep?
>>127150405
>>127150970
incorrect
>>127151218
one***** fugggg
>>127151121
For fucks sake, how did you manage to die 13 times as a Nova?
>>127151383
My fetish as a nova is to pretend im a decoy nova
>>127151383
You fucking made me have to check if that was his assists and his assists turned out to actually be LOWER
how the fuck
>>127151121
>13 deaths
>when you instakill any one of their team at any time
Reminder Murky counters Tyrande
>>127151115
>hardcountered by a level 7 talent
a talent Tyrande doesn't have access to is the only way to stop the murkster
>>127151121
viking aba carry, also uninstall for being bad nova.
>>127151764
>picking Murky anytime before Uther is ruled out as a potential pick by the opponent
>>127151764
You pick Tyrande as a solo support?
refer to previous statement
>get gud
lunara buffs when
>>127119559
Pandass research.
>>127151115
>useless hero
>just grab the support
Murky isn't useless. Only shitters think this. He's good in some comps
>>127152823
>tyrande isn't a good solo support
Bronzie detected.
>>127155446
not against what he mentioned no
>>127152823
Tyrande is perfectly viable as a solo support (assuming enemy team also only has one) nowadays.
For shrists say people are crying daily for a Tyrande nerf.
>Half of the pics poster are from undertale
For a moment I thought I was in the wrong general.
>>127156531
Make that over half.
I wonder just how many people are AFK training with their free stimpack right now.
>>127156912
not me
so 0%
>>127151121
Abathur and TLV carried your useless ass hard
Holy shit how the fuck can you be this bad
You're level 40 in a game designed for actual children
I hope you never drive a car or something that's actually important, you'll get someone fucking killed you worthless fucking retard holy shit how do you even get double-digit deaths without actually TRYING to feed
go to play na HL after a while
get 180ms
get d/cing diablo
get this
ebin
>>127156531
All of them are commanderITF
not even kidding
>>127159538
>i can't help it morons think tass is a nova counter
>0-3-7
>>127155446
>picking tyrande solo vs murky
2150 MMR detected
how close am I, shitter?
>>127159614
who the fuck is commanderITF lmao
>>127159114
>says the guy with rage so intense he'll run someone off the road and then shoot them in the face
>>127159729
Nova is the biggest shitter magnet in the game
I dread having Nova on my team, and as we level up, I audibly groan and visibly shudder as I see Nova continue to take awful talents like Envenom and AA Shells, 50/50 on whether or not he takes the good ult.
Meanwhile he will fail to kill anyone 1v1 because the enemy team ISN'T fucking retarded, and never even touch an objective because "Nova's job is to be 1337 snip3r XD"
He will invariably have the lowest XP contribution by far and maybe 1-2k more hero damage than your team's Uther
>>127160130
Some guy who is legitimately silver who blogposts here about game strategies and thinks he's a pro when he can't even break 2200 MMR.
>>127160254
Road rage and MOBA rage are actually very similar
They're both caused by frustration at people who are obviously not paying the fuck attention
The solution to both is to pay fucking attention
>>127160552
Oh okay.t. CommanderITF, mining some anon's opinion.
>The feel when you are really high mmr and care about winning.
>you understand the game and how it flows yet people around you struggle.
>you yell, scream 'bronze', 'shitter' at others and look down on them for being sub 3.2k mmr
>after a bit you regret it and rationalize your behaviour despite it being knowingly wrong
Sorry..
>Be in low teens for HL
>Play withLoLfriend in placement because qm is trash
>Get matched with rank 35+'s
>The bronze is real
>Pointless teamfighting, nova, 0 communication, no discussion pre match of team comps
>Lose a game -150 points
>Win a game +50 points
>End up with a net loss of 2 ranks
>Still better than playing QM
>>127161567
>Play 20 placement matches
>Lose 3
>Win 4 more games
>Rank 1
>Go back to QM
>Win 12 straight
>All solo queue
git gud my man
Just had a game where then enemy team had
Chogall
Murky
Aba
Valla
They gave up pretty much on the 5th minute and just danced around us.
When will we be able to filter these no fun allowed heroes like shitathur and memegal?
>>127151121
>pizza chops with 13 deaths as nova
J U S T
U
S
T
Afk meme slug and lost memes carried desu qt 3.14
>>127163063
>T-this o-one time I h-had a w-winstreak
I play this game cause:
1. Less autism management with last-hitting/meta-gaiming/etc.
2. Loads better models/skins (including color varations, a lot of them are skins in themselves)/waifus.
I actually never bought anything with real life cash though. Some of you fuckers have no such self-control, though.
Holy shit, I've just stomped so hard a team is even cruel
They were
>Cho'Gall
>Stiches
>Tassadar
>Abathur
We were
>Artanis (me)
>Tyrande
>Hammer
>Ilidan
>Lili
I don't blame them for getting destroyed
>>127166293
How does Artanis handle nowadays?
>>127166429
Still has a weak early game, but it got upgraded from nonexistent to decent.
>>127166429
Eh. His ball bearings and flux capacitors needs some work. My disappointment is palpable when it comes to discussing his missed potential.
Although I must admit that he's not going anywhere near useless town he was a great way to go full tank now I'm just like a little more impressed than one of those things are not in my gameplay style.
>>127166429
He got some buffs, right now is kinda good
They improved the range on his E and some more things
Though he still lacks stuns, and is dependant on his autoattacks, but for me is one the funniest heroes to play
Both ults are pretty good too
>play quick meme, alt tab after game is over
>10 minutes later, come back and press ready
>game instantly starts
>that was fa-- it's fucking VS AI
>falstad: hi guys, finish quick or farm play time???
>diablo: play long pls
>falstad and diablo try to collect all coins and never turn in
>whenever we kill the bots they also go and feed
did i bonk my head and reach bizzaro universe?
>>127159538
how can you see draft chat after the game? it's always gone for me
>>127167606
Maybe, just maybe, they were buying time for getting more exp when finishing the match
But they're fucking idots anyways
>>127167930
But that's retarded.
>>127168157
It is
That's why they're fucking supid lol
>start playing tyrande
>MMR starts going up
ok then
Where the FUCK is Maiev????
>>127168478
I might drop Li Li for a while to get my fill of night elf ass.
>>127168157
That's a donkey.
>>127168580
she'll be here when you stop touching yourself at night.
>>127168616
Better do it soon. She's probably getting nerfed next patch.
Why is Tyrande now suddenly OP?
>>127169435
stun + burst (with vuln) + heals + decent damage
>>127169435
The scaling changes and vaulnerability. she was always good though.
>>127169435
Best ranged stun in the game.
Can solo heal.
Vulnerability right out of the gate.
>>127168640
>>127169863
>>127169927
>>127169928
So the e-sports teams started playing it and now suddenly everyone is playing it, right?
>>127169928
Her mediocre healing isn't what makes her strong, the gank meta is what makes her strong with vaulnerability. she is a weak solo healer
>>127170205
yup
>>127170205
Yeah
>>127170205
She's been in every game for 2 months straight pretty much. This is here to stay until she is nerfed.
>>127170312
No shit.
Her kit allows her to solo heal.
>>127170312
>>127170313
>>127170509
>>127170574
>>127170205
She just broke Hotsdogs lol
>>127170732
lol fucking what?
>>127170732
Just realised half of the things are in spanish and the other half in english
ok
>>127168478
>play whoever I want
>MMR almost at 4k
tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie
>>127170312
Dying because you have zero map awareness isn't anything new, kid.
>>127159729
037, eh?
>>127171097
ITS 2015+1 TYRANDE IS GREAT
>>127171097
>Tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie
WEW LADS
>>127172091
galaxy quest really is a great movie
>tfw blizzard will never make zagaras creep tumors not decay
>>127172535
>mfw blizzard actually makes me play my character
wtf blizz
>some random faggot picks diablo
>i pick tyrande
>the fucking retard is incapable of using E after he charges
>i tell him to get his shit together
>he finally does it just before a teamfight
>on muradin
>he never does it again during the whole game
>all he does is walk around and try to push their raynor into our team, of course that never happens
>so he just walks back into our team and uses his E on muradin
wow, slowclap
i can't believe we won that game, their jaina was so fucking retarded it made up for everything
>Finally got Diablo 2 working.
Cinematics won't play because of windowed mode but I'll just watch them on youtube or something.
i need dem sweet azmodan's builds, no matter how meme they are i'm a fag that only plays QM, thanks
>>127173271
full lazer build dont look back
>tfw my pic in in the OP
>/vg/ member has his friends in the party
>he drops, they stay
>they are fucking awful
>>127173271
>taste for blood, no exceptions, learn to last hit with it you shitter
>gluttony is not relevant anymore unless both teams have no healer and the enemy team has thrall / illidan, army of hell is always good
>infernal globe, the rest aren't worth it
>black pool
>march of sin, relentless if they have so much cc you feel that you will never be able to channel your E
>battleborn vs ranged comps, imposing presence vs AA heavy champs, blood for blood vs scary double tank comps
>fifth circle vs melee comps if you're on a ranged team, forced recruitment if the enemy team sucks at dealing with your push (do not pick this if you are losing so badly that your lanes are pushed all the time), bolt otherwise
>>127173271
>That Azmodan that will stay in one lane the entire gamebottom
>That Azmodan that will die over and over again ignoring danger pings
>That Azmodan that will go back to exactly where he was before after ressing
>That Azmodan that won't help in teamfights>That Azmodan that does his job
>>127173271
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=166970
>play qm to try a new hero after playing nothing but HL for weeks
how do you people handle all these meme comps? both sides consistently have the dumbest heroes possible and games are just a clusterfuck
>>127174293
>Enemy Azmodan tries this
>Have one person kill him every time while rest of the team wins 4v4 or force a 4v5 after he's dead
>That guy who thinks split pushing works in the year 2016
>>127174506
Better than HL
>Enemy team firstpicks Tyrande
>You now are on the fast track for a loss
>>127174650
>Enemy first picks Tyrande
>You pick Kael Uther
>Win
>>127174746
>Uther goes hammer build
>Kael can't D+W correctly
>>127174746
>Uther has a win rate of like 40%.
>Tyrande has a win rate approaching 60%.
Yeah that happens a lot.
>>127174650
Just get kael, raynor or muradin and you will be fine
>>127174948
>Tyrande goes starfall build
>Tyrande can't land stun + forget her trait exists
>>127175036
/hotsg/ has become so bronze they honestly think Uther is bad
>still no new starcraft heroes
Why does blizzard hate that franchise so much?
>>127175130
Uther isn't bad, but Tyrande is fucking amazing. An Uther on the other team doesn't mean shit especially because you picked him so early letting them get Muradin.
>>127175159
Salty over their fuck up with losing the Korean audience.
Might as well go with their tried and true money makers, wow drones...
and wasn't no-eye brows and shit AA released recently?
>>127175394
how did they lose the korean audience? I thought starcraft was like an official sport over there
>playing cho'gall with a friend
>become a god
How can people say he's bad? Godlike hero for sure
>enemy diablo charges squishy
>enemy tyrande stuns behind him
joke's on her, i used divine shield
i am enjoying this so much, gets me everytime
I might be retarded but I can't think of a use of march of the black king.
When is it good? I've found that being able to trap people in a wall is invuable even if they can dive out of it because you can wait out their dives and then use it.
To me it seems like black king march is just an "oh shit" button you use when your positioning is so shit you find yourself in the middle of the enemy team
>>127176390
>Divine Shield cooldown like 90 seconds.
>There cooldowns like 10 seconds.
I would take that trade every day.
>>127176150
Try playing him in something other than training
>>127176434
>zagara maw
>march into it
otherwise, it generally helps you survive when teamfighting in close quarters, it can be really good on infernal shrines or towers of shit, especially if the enemy team is rather melee heavy
but honestly, it's not that great until you get the level 20 upgrade, at which point you become a god
>>127176434
its decent damage for wombos and it effectively acts like hardened shield; unless you're getting creamed by literally everything they have, you wont die
entomb is almost always better though, i'd only take march if there isnt a single escapeless squishy to trap
or if they have kael. never take entomb into a kael.
>>127176562
1v1 me noob::^)
>>127175650
This is me talking out of my ass more then anything, but could've sworn with the advent of SC2, they were trying ton control freak and micromanage everything, including tournaments and business ventures. Korea's response was FUCK YOU.
Also may have been SC2's gameplay. I don't know really.
>>127176557
who cares? the point is winning the teamfight
>being retarded enough to be caught by diablo before a fight
you might want to stop being bronze
>>127176434
If enemy has Kael you never take Entomb. Fucking never because everyone clumps up trying to kill them an Chain Bomb destroys your entire team.
Also if your team needs more damage or the majority of their team has ways of escaping out of Entomb.
>Two weeks of radio silence from Blizzard
make it end
Best hero combo in the game?
Tyrande+Butcher gets my vote
>>127176791
Yeap no one gets caught ever. Not a single person. That's why Tyrande isn't in every single fucking game.
>>127177072
Tyrande and Diablo is really good.
>>127177072
Tyrande+Anyone not Butcher that has a stun gets my vote.
>>127177072
illidan + abathur
:3
>>127176884
Happy Feast of Winter Veil
>it's a seasoned marksman illidan episode
>>127177072
Abathur Kharazim is always fun.
>>127177378
Any build with Illidan is bad right now cause Illidan is a bad hero.
>Play TLV
>Tell them to roam as four
>Everytime, someone is too slow to mount, sync up, and roam properly and they go in one by one and get rekt
>Everytime they lose a 4v4 even with tyrande/CC warrior
fuck
>>127176150
I just went with cho'gall with a pal for shit n giggles, i got probably one of the three (counting myself) anub'arak players in EU and got webbed everytime, outfucking played no chance whatsoever
>>127177765
>Winning with Vikings on Tomb of the Spider.
Witchcraft.
>>127177765
best master skin in the game tbqh
>>127178215
I like how it's just the outfits from the second game. It's a nice touch.
Why do Tass/Malf/Uther have such low win rates? Those characters are pretty damn good.
>>127178513
They're force multipliers, and can't really "carry" on their own. It's the supports conundrum.
>>127178513
Because Tyrande. Picked in almost every game. Has a win rate of like 60%. Guess who's on the losing side in most games?
How does the "AFK in training" thing work?
>>127178695
afk in training mode
thats literally it
>>127178695
You go into training. Start it up. Alt tab out and leave. Come back when you think the game is over and start another one.
>>127178513
Not alot of people know how to DS. Also, not alot of people know what to do when they're DS'd. People end up running away instead of going ham.
>>127178765
It doesn't kick you out for inactivity?
>>127178852
nope
not in training
in vs ai it will
>>127178852
yup it sure does thats why eveyrone does it just to piss away time
>>127178852
Not in training. You don't get gold and you don't complete quests you just get XP.
>>127178908
>>127178963
Thanks. Good to know.
>>127178954
fun heroes? i already have strong heroes like KT and Tyrande lvl15+
>>127178513
a handful of characters have a winrate far above almost everyone else
>>127179220
Artanis, Sonya, Chen andLunara.
Soon my waifu and I will be united once more...
>>127179220
rexxar
>>127179220
Gazlowe, Tass, Brightwing
>>127179340
Wonder what her skin will be. Here's hoping Flash.
>>127179340
she is so wacky!
>>127179340
ur waifu a shit
>>127179340
I hope she has a Widowmaker color variant.
>>127179530
Probably the protoTracer skin like Overwatch is getting.
>>127179220
chen, memeslug, tyrael,illidan,rexxar
>>127179854
That's boring. Go with Flash.
>>127176884
they'll probably be back in office by Monday. Who doesn't deserve 3 weeks off for Christmas and new years
>>127179340
I wonder what her secondary Ult will be.
>>127180083
>expecting Blizzard to put in any cool effort
Tracer is going to be Zeratul2: Ranged Edtion.
She'll probably suck on release too.
>>127180239
>She'll probably suck on release too.
Another super squishy shit character that dies to raynor
>>127180239
shes gonna be lucian from league
>>127180239
>suck on release
Blizzard wants that cash.
They'll make her seem powerful at first, rack in some more Overwatch preorders, and then tweak some numbers so people quit bitchin.
>playing falstad when there's an abathur on the enemy team
>he tries this shit where he goes to our base in order to spawn ticks then fuck off
I wonder if these people think at all before they do something. It cost them the game because I killed abathur when he tried it, so we got the DK and won the game with it.
They were winning up to that point and their abathur singlehandedly threw the game by making one of those cooool plays he no doubt found in "top 10 abathur tricks"
>>127181316
>Artanis
>try out nazeebo since he's f2p
>pick up death ritual
>just lane normally
>4k hp 1k mana by level 20
holy shit how is that balanced?
>>127181393
The hero that had a gamebreaking exploit while he was pre-order only? What about him, friend?
>>127181604
He was still largely considered garbage because he was god awful until 16. Everyone thought that.
>>127181601
because Nazeebo does fuck all damage and has basically been a worse Stitches with better ults since Cho'gall
>>127181601
he has no escapes, and even if he traps someone in his only CC, every character in the game get out by just attacking it
he's good in quick match though because everyone's retarded
>>127181657
>he was still largely considered garbage
Did you play while that exploit was in? He could singlehandedly instafrag any low HP hero because his zealot charge alone did close to 3k damage.
Yes, it only happened after 16, but every fucking game with an artanis in it was immediately lost the second you let them get 16. And that's like, most games.
>>127181601
Because outside of his ults he's largely nonexistent now.
>>127181601
he used to be pretty OP but scaling patch fucked him, all he does is scattered poke damage
>>127181863
Yes I did. I saw him lose game after game in HL because he was fucking garbage. At lvl 16 most games were already decided then because this is before the scaling changes hit and if you had Artanis the game was 4v5 until then.
There's a reason why no one used him after the first day.
>>127181863
What was the exploit?
>>127181316
lili, pls, they have proven that they just suck at making this game
hero strength is random at best
>>127181907
>>127181601
Outside of his ults he's terrible now. He used to be able to 1v1 anyone because his corpse spiders did so much fucking damage, together with a zombie wall and a broadside of frogs there was absolutely nothing that could survive his damage focused on them.
Now he's just kinda annoying because rather high HP and leaping spiders dont let you mount
ORD1 is fucking dogshit- cost me 2 games already due to high ping and I live on the fucking east coast
>>127182181
you could make 3 attacks go off at once
>>127182138
His Charge would reset if you hit it at the right time.
So you'd AA, Charge and it would reset so you'd hit them 8 times instead of the normal 4. It really only worked on buildings with any type of accuracy because his aa range was so shit it you had to be standing on there toes to make use of it.
>>127182392
mean for >>127182138
>>127181367
Thats what helps make fastlad so good
>>127182118
This honestly sounds like you're bronze. At 3.6k MMR, every game I played with Artanis they kept their shit together and played it safe until they hit 16 at which point it was a free win. Same thing if Artanis was on our team. It was fucking ridiculous.
>>127182412
You joking? it was a simple timing thing. Aslong as you got into melee range of a target you were guaranteed to hit it. Everyone did it at all times.
>pick tyrande
>faggot picks stitches because "we are the best combo in the game"
>he misses his hooks
>i waste my stun every time he attempts a short range hook
>i stop trying with the faggot and land stuns by myself
>he complains about it
wow, eat shit
>>127182181
>they have proven that they just suck at making this game
Blizzard just low balls heroes for some reason, they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.
Medic is good now. Artanis is decent bordering on good. Rexxar is ok. Cho'gall would be good if he wasn't completely hard fucked by the meta right now.
>>127182764
>unironically picking stitches
eugh
>>127183012
You ever try playing stitches on the map with the punishers?
You need to get cooldown reduction on devour and the little slimefriend spawn on it. When there's a shrine you eat all the little guys and make an army of stitchlings. It's pretty hilarious and they're actually really good if the enemy team can't deal with them quickly i.e. if they don't have kael
>>127182803
Lunara needs more than a health tweak to be good. Her poison needs to do either more damage or last longer as well.
>>127183297
sounds fun, but infernal shrines is my only excuse to play leoric these days.
>>127182803
>they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.
Leoric, Johanna, thrall, kael'thas, sylvanas
maybe jaina and monk released in an ok state
>>127183624
"i'm here to feed" exists for a reason
to be fair, both monk and jaina suffered from idiot player syndrome on launch, not necessarily the hero's problem
Wonder if we'll be able to preorder overwatch on amazon and cancel for tracer
or will the badgoy loophole be closed
It would be funny if blizz attempted to buff lunara by making damage-over-time more powerful, but instead just make everyone pick the other assassins and use envenom
>>127183462
People seem to not understand that Lunara doesn't do Nazeebo damage, she can shit out serious burst with Wild Vigor + Invigorating Spores.
Right now Lunara just needs to have her melee attack animation bug, a buff to her health so she doesn't spend the first 10 minutes of the match getting reamed by Raynor and Nova, and at most a revision of her level 4 talents.
>>127183624
Every single one of those heroes was good at launch though?
Monk has also always been good though it took people a while to figure him out.
>>127184109
What? How would buffing Lunaras dot affect envenom in any way?
>>127184415
he thinks all dot effects are the same thing
>>127184215
>revision
>re-vision
>>127184215
She does need a fix there, but she can at the very least use an attack range buff. A medium between Raynor and Valla would be fine for her.
She doesn't have a getaway tool like Valla or the second health bar Raynor does so just being able to attack from a little further away would help a lot.
>>127184349
that was the point. I was replying to the person who said all heroes sucked on release.
>>127184637
Every hero since Monk have sucked at release. So it's pretty safe to say that they are just scared of releasing another Leoric and are crippling the heroes they release in the process.
Is seasoned marksman useless now?
it feels like it doesn't do anything helpful regardless of the character
>>127184215
>melee attack animation bug
Not that I don't think it shouldn't be fixed for obvious reasons, but it's hilarious to see how people think being able to cancel your attack before it happens is a terrible bug. It's standard in every single other game of the genre
>be tyrande
>roaming with diablo
>he jumps in on their morales, we kill it
>suddenly their whole team is upon us
>holy shit we fucked up bro, we're dead
>they all focus diablo
>i heal him up while running away
>he dies, i escape
>5s respawn time
wew lads, thanks for the free win
>>127184775
It's terrible on illidan, and it always was
other than that it's pretty gud. Most heroes that can get it get really good value out of it. Falstad attacks really fast already and together with secret weapon you can shit out LOTS of burst, thrall gets maxed attack speed with windfury, artanis attacks pretty fast and triple strike gets triple value out of it, and raynor should be obvious.
For tyrande it's alright if you build for it, but not great.
I don't think there's any other heroes that can get it.
>enemy team has tyrande, kael and muradin
>oh shit we are fucked
>enemy team picks lunara
>we win
nice
>>127185000
>Trips
I just remembered that in a previous thread some anon was told that it's not useful now even with thrall.
And I was wondering since it's the one I used to pickInB4 you should make a CL build
>>127184757
I think it's safe to say they aren't good at making this game
>>127185739
These are the people that made Starcraft. Of course they aren't.
>>127185701
CL build is alright in some situation. It has pretty good poke, but I feel like thrall is much much stronger if you go full windfury with windfury CD reduction. The staying power you have in teamfights is insane with this. Every 8 seconds you get a full heal and also do hilariously huge damage.
seasoned marksman really amplifies that damage so I usually get it.
>>127184956
>Play Diablo
>Fight goes sour
>I stay behind so team can escape since I'll just rez in 5 seconds
>Team commits suicide trying to save me
I appreciate the effort but please stop.
>slap zagara's ass
>it explodes
>>127182305
east coast, I've been getting absurd shit like this
>>127185701
With the WF build you're trading a weaker early game for a stronger late game. Less burst damage for more sustained damage.
>>127186692
>slap li li's ass
>i explode
>>127186692
>you will never be unbirthed by zagara
>you will never sleep comfortably amongst inactive banelings
>>127182305
It's so fucking garbage dude. I hate queueing up with my east coast friends because of it.
What kind of kinky bondage do you think you could get into with abathur?
>>127182305
Yep, ORD1 fucks me over because I'm on the east coast as well. I just selected US8, even though I get like 100+ ping, it's still better than the 2k ping on ord1
>2 people on my team were shit and have been carried hard
>they're a premade ofc
>check hotslogs, they have the lowest MMR
this keeps happening. i don't see why people that hotslogs is shit for MMR calculations and "so very off from blizzard's MMR". You can always see the top people on hotslogs also in blizzshit's leaderboards.
I think niggers are afraid there's a way to prove that they are bronze and they try to discredit the source.
>>127182305
Blizzard had to shut down the east coast servers because they were spending millions on this
>>127187503
hotdogs has plenty of problems, but most of the people who bitch about it, dont like seeing actual data that shows that they, or their builds, arent good
>>127187812
Hotslogs is fine for what it does, pretty much all high level games are uploaded anyway. Bronze games not getting uploaded don't mean much.
>>127176434
>Good finisher in the middle of a teamfight.
>Good anti-cluster
>Good answer to a successful bait
>Good way to reach the backlines
>Good way to disorient or relieve pressure
>Godly heal at lv20
>Generally a game swinging move if it lands correctly
>Good smorcing tool
>>127176714
I don't think there's a single time I'd pick entomb over march when I'm try-harding.
Yeah entomb CAN be useful in some match-ups, but it's WAY less versatile.
I'm almost tempted to call it trash w/o voice comms.
>be first pick
>lock in tyrande
>next picks: nova, chogall, tyrael
>enemy team has kael, raynor, anub, morales and diablo
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>someone on the enemy team queuedodged
I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE
>>127186692
I think zagara works like this
>>127188297
>tfw you will never be attached to Zagara while her buttclaws hold you in place, draining you of semen and essence while you're helplessly locked in and joined with her while she goes about doing her daily routine and tending to her baneling babies
why even live?
>>127188297
how zagara have 2 vagina
>>127186306
Just press v, THEN blame them for fucking up.
I'd definitely back if a tank pressed retreat, I've been in those shoes many a time so I wouldn't even look twice before gtfo.
Too often though, when I play as anything NOT a tank, I get one who either over-extends, doesn't peal and/or doesn't communicate.
Really fucking sucks.
Makes me want to just take their keyboard and play for them.
Same reason why I can't play support.
But I don't have that issue with abathur.
Why is that?
>>127189002
Oh my god. Re-reading what I typed.
The disgusting errors ruin the flow, but whatever.
>>127188984
thanks abathur
>>127188984
Zagara have entrance and exit seperate for efficient entry and departure
Playing Kael I noticed lunara dies in one of my stuns. Her hit box seems pretty large too for such a fragile character, so it's almost impossible to miss the stun. What is the point of that character?
So, Chen isn't actually BAD any more right?
Or is he still trash because against a competent group, he'd be stunned out of drinking all the fucking time?
>mfw even blizzard youtubers are calling attention to state of matchmaking
>>127189769
He's not great in the current meta but the scaling changes did help him.
>>127189769
theres going to be a tye randy in every match
>be tyrande
>diablo on my team refuses to use his E after the charge
what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
>Qs target
>W
>it walks away
great fucking job bro
tfw no woolly bully abathur skin that makes him look like a fuzzy caterpillar
>>127189886
>playing johanna
>find enemy team taking the boss on the sand map with the 3 laser towers
>watching them in a bush with sonya
>other teammates dead/somewhere else
>just as they kill the boss, run in with sonya
>end up killing all 5 of them, including murky twice
>win the game
I have no idea how it worked out so well but it did
>>127190398
kek
>>127190398
the match making can be fucked, but they have repeatedly said they dont want to force a meta
2 dps 2 healers and specialist vs
1 dps 2 healers 2 tanks
>>127190398
5man premade vs 5 randoms should never happen
>>127190398
To be fair I don't blame him. I just played a Hero Leauge game where the enemy all picked squishy ranged assassins with no initiate whilst our team was balanced and had a fuck load of initiates and disables.
To say it was a stomping is an understatement.
>>127190747
>Forcing a meta of balanced teams in a game revolving around teamfighting over objectives
>>127189886
>>127190906
players just wouldn't understand matchmaking without forced losses
>constantly fighting 5 stacks
>every single one has Diablo/Jo/Tyrael, Stitches, Raynor, Tyrande and Uther/Tassadar/Kael
>my team is always 3-5 randoms
I guess it's only HL for an attempt a a decent team. QM is disgusting 90% of the time.
>>127190747
>>127190861
>>127190398
>Blizzard reveal Arena
>It's a crazy new mode where anything can happen
>1 nova? 5 novas? completely unbalanced teams? nothing but assassins? nothing but supports?
Oh wait it's quick match.arena cancelled
>>127190906
and if he picked tye randy instead of brightwing, the match making would have been fine?
>>127191013
Yeah I only play HL now, at least there's some discussion about team comps and counterpicksmost of the time.
Even if I lose I'm having more fun trying to win than wasting my time with qm shitters.
>>127191096
>arena costs 100 gold to enter
>works like hearthstone, 3 losses and you are out
>get 100 gold back after 5 wins
>get 200 gold for 10 wins
>small chance of getting a random skin at 12 wins
A qt from work who plays WoWwho has a bf of 6 years she met as her old raid leader from Vanillajust gave me $20 for my 25th and told me to buy some skins and slut up my party...
I let her choose the skins and she picked:
>Cyb'Anub'Arak
>Tempest Regalia Jaina
>Ranger General Sylvannus
>Desert Queen Zagara
She wanted Sgt. Doomhammer and Succubus Kerrigan but I already owned those.
>>127191339
>>127190398
>>127189886
>yfw he started and paid for a heroes team back in alpha/beta
>yfw he's posted videos about losing 10's of thousands of $ on it
