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ethnic redditors fuck off edition

old thread:>>126701978


>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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>>126793636
Is this what this is about, you just defending your shitty build? Why do you have to do this, your build isn't a reflection of you as a person. Just because your skill tree is objectively inferior to another persons doesn't mean you should be angry, if anything it offers you a moment of introspection to allow you to review your decisions and prevent future mistakes.
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>>126793894
>>126793894
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>>126793945
a real build.
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>>126793937
kek. im not even that guy

i merely explained double dippin and pointed out poison can double dip, on a few things
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>>126794176
ok why are these useless builds on the frontpage forums?
whats a cheap crit shitcore build is if every single thing is so fucking bad
no fucking rain of whoevers just something you can do with your characters own hands no pussybullshit
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>>126794325
CoC bladefall is muy insane.
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Is there anything better than crawling through act 4 cruel into act 1 merc and literally one shotting everything? Really makes you feel as if your build has finally come together. I fucking hate cruel a4. It's almost worth it for the rush you feel when you kill hillock before he pulls out his sword.
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Alkaizer is the best POE streamer

>always HC
>always solo
>no twitch drama
>listens to touhou remixes
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>>126794492
>>>BLADEFALL
I dont want blades to fall out of the sky
i want my attacks to.. bring the destruction upon my foe, like in the good old days of ele cleave and reave
i dont wanna hit something and have a bunch of bullshit fall from the sky
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>>126794590
okay.

how about cyclone. or cyclone
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>>126794509
agreed senpai
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>>126794637
that's it?
that's the epic softcore glasscannon ability?
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>mfw lebbiturds don't even know about the secret poeg guild that never gets mentioned
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>>126794872
you mean the standard one? because that shit is never posted.
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>kobe dies AGAIN
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>>126794590
Just play reave.
There have been a ton of QoL buffs to reave. You can whirling blades without losing stacks now.
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Have not played in a while. Which new skill should I build around?
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>>126795082
reave is pretty insane.
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>find a rare with same exact affixes you have, but high rolls

thank you rng gods
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>>126795082
reave, bladefall, blade vortex, lightning arrow's FoTM again, KB is still good.
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>>126794997
alright so is there a noob reave spoonfeeding guide for me to use
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>>126795268
1. Make sure your weapon is decent.
2. Use multistrike.
3. Do whatever your want it's all good.
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>>126795268
ShiggyD's southpaw reave isn't actually that bad and is more than good enough until you figure things out again.
Or you can dick around with poison. Poison reave's fucking insane come late high end maps.
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the new armor looks pretty good desu
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Who here knows they're good at the game and isn't afraid of posting their build tree and build links for /poeg/ to critique.
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>>126795498
can i poison reave with 0 money on scrubcore?
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>>126794509
that's because he's a diablo 3 streamer and diablo 3 is a better game so it attracts higher quality streamers
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>>126795082
storm call
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>>126795753
me

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOyiFDgOWNCBuPSImYEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMnKTqusrThxMNfL6KdweTJ6EvbAt_xu-IIvQRlvk3bRkOSJAbBx7XzxFQ2VuX9Aj0XfJwVpUuSbE1uRslUlPAVCoLKwqaE_DVpyuXlT1fvOpqQ3BSES_b1I_6SVFMs4nT62PQ0FxA6_Ugbq6z0B8EB4w2tUg2PUcGX2pUvWSdUDBBlu_rg9tVS52q8uHYdhXt8h3bXgVC0PVVxmHibIxjQ7k-lossnDpYJpVirKxm1bkWvyzhD6tqjHX9JIv1b4RvwzrIFCo4otmw2Euu6QK5k8MJ
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>>126796406
Still have two more jewel slots to go. I'm actually impressed. They make groundslam feel decent. Rapid expansion jewels are pretty based.
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>>126796632
I feel like threshold jewels are going to hold skills back the further they go with them. You basically certain skills without threshold jewels anymore, if anything it feels like it takes away diversity that should have been already implemented into the skill.
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>>126795268
I made a Reave build with Binos and ended up using Frost Blade half of the time instead. The chill snare is very useful, not to mention you won't have to worry about muh stacks the entire map.
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>>126796831
u want me to buy binos
with what money
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>>126796787
Except it doesn't. It's a way to buff skills without touching their numbers. Which is what they need to do. We don't need more flameblasts or vaal sparks out there. Groundslam wasn't touched because the aoe was awkward. Threshhold jewels fixed that. Cold snap was awkward because of power charge consumption. Jewels baby.
If they ever decide on reworking skills then it might become a problem. GGG's lazy though. I doubt they'll do much more than tweak the aoe and maybe pair it with a threshhold jewel later down the road.

What I am concerned about are how they make you grab so many jewel slots on the passive tree.
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now that incinerate is gutted what is the new fotm hc build
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>>126797180
vortex/bladefall
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>>126796926
Friend found that Bino, and while mapping with him we found a Death's Hand. Pretty much had to make a build with these two after that.
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>>126797310
but the question
is still
What to do on softcore with 0 currency
you tell me about your personal experiences where you got a 1 in a million drop and went and did something exquisite
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>>126796632
jesus

what forms of aoe increasing you got besides the jewel?
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how can i get in touch with chris wilson
id like to talk to him about his definition of "nearby"
cause i think we have different views on that
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What are you supposed to do with all your extra low tier maps?
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>>126797110
>It's a way to buff skills without touching their numbers.

Untrue. It's not even a buff. Just because someone sacrifices a jewel socket and has to take surrounding nodes to fulfill a requirement doesn't mean it's a straight up buff, if anything it's more of a "here you go, it's there now" thing, they still sacrifice the jewel socket and surrounding nodes.

>Threshhold jewels fixed that

my argument is that threshold jewels fix something by damaging other variants of groundslam, not that there are many, but basically if a build requires something like a threshold jewel to function why not input it into the base gem.

It's just lazy of them not to fix the inherently crappy nature of their gems.
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>>126797392
aoe in the templar area and a marohi. I'd imagine a 20/20 AoE gem and those last two jewels would make it amazing.
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>>126797636
Oh. In that case, yeah, you're right. You feel like you're gimped out if you roll crit groundslam since you're already so spread out for points. Grabbing the jewel slots is damn near impossible. My bad anon, didn't understand what you were getting at.
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>>126797513
just post.
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It takes 125 tier 1 talismans to reach a tier 4, is my math right? If it is, it's crazy, an inventory tab has 124 slots...

I'm struggling, there's not enough altars if i don't stop leveling and dump them on smaller/faster to run maps, fuck you ggg.
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>the guru is streaming
>you aren't watching

Why?
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>>126797770
yes hello chris how the fuck is a group of corpses nearly 2 screens away from the strongbox counted as "nearby"
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>>126797770
Do you think they competed in the HC vs SC shitposting.
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>>126797901
You're "supposed" to use them as you go, not bank them all up first.
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>>126798082
In NZ we use "nearby" in a geological context, champ!
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>>126798082
Strongbox detonate dead and player detonate dead are both two different skills. Also different is that Strongbox detonate dead doesn't do 50% fire 50% phys but it still retains the chaining explosione of Vaal Detonate dead.

Detonate Dead's AoE for players got increased by about 60% since the 1.3 deployment patch so I wouldn't be surprised if boxes got changed in a minor way as well. There's no one around in the office to ask these questions to so you'll just have to take my word for it until then
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Sell me on a build with a fun skill that isn't cyclone, bladefall, reave, flicker, mjolner or blade vortex. Already did these.

Out of those flicker was the most fun, but also the one most prone to dying.
Mjolner rips my framerate apart.
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>>126798248
fight me irl you bastard
nearby my ass
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>>126798370
Frost Blade. Fun kicks in when you can do at least 50k dps with it.
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>>126797901

Well you dont really save up all 125 and then use them at once.

You keep like 4 i your inventory so if you get the 5th T1 you can dump it in a circle, and you dump the rest in a stash tab, and once you are seing that the tab is getting cramped, just do a few dried lake runs to use them up.

Also trade them with others to get full sets of the higher tiers.

Sucks if you have 4 tabs only, but what can ya do.
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>>126798370
have you considered cast on crit ice nova + shock nova with elemental equilibrium?

use a fire damage prefixed dagger/jewelry and elemental equilibrium, One of your novas hits for more damage and then the other nova hits for more Damage. It's pretty neat.
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>>126798493

By the time you hit 50k dps with FB you are in the 100k numbers with other skills and completely shitting on all content.
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>>126798493
thats what I used to level my flicker guy.
it's alright, but I prefer braindead shit where I dont need to target stuff.

being able to use whirling blades is also a big plus, that shit is basically flyhacking.
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>>126798670
Sure, I'll give you that. But you're not having FUN LIKE YOU WOULD BE WITH FROST BLADES NOW IS YA
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>>126798585
ee doesnt stack.
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>>126795694
>Taking a screenshot with the map overlay.
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>>126798670
But FREE 7 projectiles man! And the animation sound's pretty satisfying too (for me).
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>>126798921
not that guy, but what he meant is that the novas both hit for the bonus negative 50 resist if they trigger at the same time from a fire attack
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>>126798921
I know it doesn't? Shock Nova Nova and Ice Nova never hit at the same time.
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>>126798921

Ofc it does. If you hit an enemy with all 3 elements the monster gets +25% to all elements.

>>126799154

Damn, i tried it before they buffed it, and honestly it just felt underwhelming, it was hard to scale the dmg, and a pain in the ass to target mobs.
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>>126797770
>chris was the fixed prices autist the whole time
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>>126795082
>new skill
>reave LA KB
kek, just do anything physical/chaos or plan for conversion to chaos/poison and it'll just werk

also requesting sickcore meme guild entrance
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>>126799447
>self cast EK

why not just play bladefall shakin the knob on top of the wickerbasket over here.
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>>126799218
>>126799262

then wouldnt just using a single of those novas with ele pentration and some other synergistic augment would better than 2 novas? why 2 elements?

>>126799281
yeah but i meant that once you trigger it initially, its effect remains unaffected for the remainder of its duration
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I use poe.trade to exchange currency

is this a bad thing? Is that how everyone else does it? cause tradechat seems pretty dead.
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>>126799545
ek's better
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>>126799547
>then wouldnt just using a single of those novas with ele pentration and some other synergistic augment would better than 2 novas? why 2 elements?
because base damage augmentation is much better than % more multipliers.

having 2 base damage skills rather than 1 is always better for CoC.
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>>126799638

When you use tradechat, notice in wich one it puts you. Tradechat 16 is pretty dead compared to /trade 1 or 2
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>>126799641
But that's objectively wrong.

>Bladefall hits more often
>has more AoE
>has more damage

the physical damage on bladefall only accounts for a single volley, even the first volley will always deal more damage.

the only thing EK has is mana cost (-3 base mana) and attribute requirements, the fact that EK can only shoot 10 projectiles limits how many mobs it can kill at a time.
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>>126799547
would you rather add 30-50% more damage to a skill or add 100% more damage via a 2nd skill
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>>126797550
please respond
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>>126799668
still seems to me 2 elements make it inefficient, as you could still have 2 skills and penetration and ele bonuses in gear and tree
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>>126799918
chisel recipe m9
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>>126799795
>muh numbers

go try clearing a map with both skills

bladefall's only advantage is that it has single-target
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>>126799996
That's what Elemental equilibrium is for.

>ele bonuses on gear

like what, you're CoC.

The tree can scale off elemental damage and spell damage and they both scale off of AoE nodes as well.

CoC - nova - nova - cyclone - conc effect - increased aoe

done. easily run blasphemy + warlords mark and a CWDT+BV+PCOC for easy power charges.

And now you have 70% mana left, you could run something like haste or I don't know.
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>>126800091

i think you mean to say that bladerfall's only advantage is that it hits several times per cast on a larger aoe for a lot more damage
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>>126799409
i wish
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>>126800198
but that's wrong as pointed out by my post here >>126799795


Bladefalls single volley already deals the same if not more damage than EK's single projectile hitting a mob. Against more mobs, it also has higher effective DPS and against single targets its wayyy better
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>>126800287
read again
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>>126800153
i remain unconvinced that is as effective as focusing on one element, but ok
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I asked last thread and didn't get an answer.
What are the best uses of Vaal orbs? I have been stock piling them because I never know.
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>>126800481
Have you seen shatterchuck? Because that's literally the same premise, stacking base damage and multiply that base damage via procs.
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>>126800598
currency/chancing uniques if you feel like attempting to get gg items
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>>126800598

using them on 20/20 gems, and on stuff that might get a good corruption
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>>126801346
>>126800674
Alright thanks.
What strongbox types warrant their use?
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>>126801391

Extra socket armor strongboxes and additional # of items jewelry boxes.
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>>126801486
Thanks... tertiary mods don't matter? only need one of those two rolls to be worth it?
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>>126799542
>keep looking for meme guild on forums
>no trace
Too bad shit like ecks dee seems like twitch cancer and sekrit guild is top sekrit
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>>126801524

Yes. Additional sockets on armor box means a high chance of 6s, and corruption raises the chance of getting a 6l dramatically. Mirrored is also nice on armor strongbox.

For jewelry corrupted means a high chance they are going to be rare, so you want high numbers.

And i mean more sockets on weapon and other strongboxes can also be good, but a lot less likely to get 6s.
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>>126801719
Excellent, thank you.
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Can we please pretend Chris is not in this thread right now so redditards wont be enticed to come here.
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>>126797770
i typed this into google and didn't find anything. where's it from what is the picture referencing of?
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>>126798732
crit shockwave totem

brain dead
whirling blades
don't need to spend time in one place killing things
doesn't tank your frame rate like mjolner or coclone
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>>126802523

The drumming malachai.
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>>126802921
stop telling every1
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>>126803312
It's not even that op
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>>126802921

>5% crit chance

Nah man.. just nah.
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>>126803979
Honestly I just said crit because he wanted to use whirling blades. The skill is fine either way though. Shaman's Dominion can carry it.
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How the fuck do I know what Items are worth?

I've got a bunch of uniques and rares that I want to trade that I /think/ are good but I have no idea if they're worth diddly squat.

I don't want to over or under sell something and look like a twat.

Halp.
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I don't understand the random prices on Lioneye's Glare.

>344 pDPS 8c 4-link
>329 pDPS 2c
>323 pDPS 15c
>322 pDPS 17c

Those are the top 4 pDPS online. Are people just retarded? Which of those are the most retarded?
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>>126805405
>>126793794

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

Literally the best advice for you.
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>>126805405
after gearing a few characters you should have a good idea of what might be valuable to someone on a rare item
when you find an item you think might be worth something:
check poe.trade
find similar items with a buyout price (filter by type, base, mods, values)
do this until you have a vague understanding of what things are worth
shouldn't take too long
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>>126803580
yeah it's pretty shitty

;--)
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>>126805405
throw in all the mods on an item if you're really that clueless on poetrade
for uniques it's obvious what the going rate is
for armor aim for at least dual resistances, flat increase to whatever it is + & increase at least 100 if you want to make at least a chaos
for boots movement speed or don't sell it at all unless it has three top tier resistances or something, atspd on gloves, aim for at the absolute minimum 300 dps for bow/2h
worst case just throw it up for a lot and if it doesn't sell in a week half the price, you'll get it as you keep playing and trading and seeing what others price certain things for
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The map device has 4 slots, what happens if I put multiple maps onto it? Only tier 1 right now.
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>>126805509
the one asking the obvious
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poe as a job
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>>126808267

Nothing.

>>126808491

Like any self employment job, if you like it and you are good at it, it can be nice. Depends on where you live.
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>>126808673

:^)
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>>126808553
>tfw youtubers in my country are equivalent of doctors in money gains
It's tempting but my PC is a shitter.
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>>126808387
That 15c also had the worst implicit. I literally have no idea what those prices are based on.
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>>126808884

Same here, im from slavlands. So anyone making more than 1k can be considered well off.

Tfw min wage is 550~ eur
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How to do magic find solo build?

Just use op chaos shit and stack item quantity right?
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>doing map on shit undergeared char
>zana pops up
>mission: slay the corrupted boss
>poorjoy's
>enter the map
>a white hits for over half health
>leave and never go back again

pls comment, rate, subscribe
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>>126809523
>hardcuck skipping challenging content
nothing new here
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>>126809137
Caustic arrow.
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>>126809137
Autistic arrow
Bladefall totems
Flame totems
Super aids
Incinerate totems
Classic summoner
SRS
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this is good right
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>>126809120
300-330 here

>>126808902
from your previous post alone highest price one was arguably the shittiest

>>126809137
SRS (not sure why though, not a summoner player)/CA work pretty well, stack MR, item quantity, get cheap shit like 5l bow

Want to try some Cameria Glacial build after I get it as a drop, kind of sounds fun.
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>>126809658
whereas scrubcore attrition tactics would have had you just run out of time while losing all your exp
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>>126810068
sounds better than funneling your life into repeating the same shit only to die for technical fuck up
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>>126809953
2-3 ex good, yes. Been trying to chance that shit forever.
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>>126810068
back to farming dried lake, hardcuck
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>>126810180
whereas you funnel your exp bar into zero percent from dying over and over again while i level back past you from the my one death
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uhhhhh
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When is + flat physical damage added to the weapon dps calcuation? Like say I had 100% increased phys without + flat phys and then crafted + flat phys on it. Is the flat phys mod just added to the current total damage or to the base before % increased phys?
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA37CSwY6-ES0snNrdpwjr7nyDRUcy0cBm73w8BZ_fgpuaO9Wm7TxXlJ48KU-MdrcxZp5yD3GFlnS2hu0gaPJ8S7iTHNyPGij6mK356ILHXsCIWrc-QYfqug18V8m-isrTtAyTJ-wYwcV_xiy_9HFDVB3ZiEJxTZrPQ2Nj_XrmRtfMt9V1sUI=

this is my first CI build

this is what I have so far

I'm running:
Flameblast with Increased Area of Effect, Faster Casting, and Added Cold Damage

Spell Totem with Storm Call, Increased Area of Effect, and Faster Casting.

I'm using Discipline, Clarity, and Herald of Thunder.

Is EE worth it on this build? I'm not sure how it interacts with things like added cold damage.

What else would you guys recommend? I'm new to making builds.
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>>126810660

First the flat is added, then its all multiplied by %

Thats why flat is so much more important on phys wands and fast aspd daggers.
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Procurement or Acquisition for trading?
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>>126811304
Acquisition by far, procurement is just bloated shit
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Why is trap bladefall so balanced lol
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>>126811736
because you're still playing traps. The damage is balanced by the play style.
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how much do items sell that aren't top-tier

like I see stuff with like 2 decent resistances on poetrade for 1-3 chaos, nothing major, gotten by drops

do people seriously buy that shit?
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>>126812028
yes
people need to meet resistance caps or item requirements while doing mid-level content
a mediocre piece of gear with some res + def + life + stats could be a problem solver for a lot of people
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>>126810621
>no fire damage to spells
>no cast speed
>no crit

1/10 vendor it
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>>126812341
>2015
>crit
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Didnt know kingmakers had an aura
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I'm new'ish to POE. How often do people like Catrina and shit update their for purchase items
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>>126814820
everytime you do their daily
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>>126814865
or if they level up
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WEW

LAD
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What build are you guys going to try. I'm bored and want to see what others are thinking of doing?

I might try something like CoC Cyclone next.
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>>126810680
wtf are you doing senpai your gem setup is retarded

>poebuilder
now i understand why everything is retarded
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>>126811395
Acquisition does everything better. Not even a contest.
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>>126815351

if you went hybrid life/es and crit you build would probably be cheaper and better
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Saw some video of a guy wasting hundreds of chance orbs trying to get a Headhunter belt.
So that reminded me that I totally have that useless belt stashed on one of my alts on standard.
Why are people paying 130-ish exalts for this belt and if I end up selling it how can I make the most broken build with ~100 exalt on standard?
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>>126818423
>how can I make the most broken build with ~100 exalt on standard?
you will need headhunter for that :^)
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>>126818423
because it makes every build broken as fuck
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Is the only benefit to inviting a master to your hideout is to level it a little faster with the daily mission?
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>>126819296
No.
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>>126819296
Doing the daily also refreshes the shop, so thats a thing
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>>126818516
>>126818532
It feels like Headhunter is the icing on the cake kind of item. I can at least not make much use of it, any suggestions for a 100~ exalt build?
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how did fuckboi die?
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>>126810621
>8.00%
>Into the trash
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>some german stream
>hear neversink filter
Exited instantly. Disgusting.
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>>126820082
Pretty much anything that doesn't require a mirrored weapon.
Hell, if you have some pre-existing currency just buy a mirrored weapon. There's nothing quite like one shotting each phase of uber atziri..
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Why does this (SRS) build guide tell me to link: Haste + Vaal Haste? Does the normal Haste aura improve by having Vaal Haste linked to it ?

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1427765/page/1
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>>126820082
Mjölner discharge
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>>126821857
It's to save on sockets so you dont need to run 3x increased duration supports.
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>>126821194
>watching other people play a market appraising sim

must feel bad to be 12
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What's the best item filter?
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>>126821997

Okay so I'm still not 100% sure how that interaction works ? Sorry I tried looking at the wiki and still don't fully understand...

why 2 x Vaal Haste ? you're only casting it from ONE gem source, yeah? and does increased duration even affect normal Haste ?
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>6linked Shavs being sold on THC for 14ex and still no one buying
Alright, thats just sad now.
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>>126822556
It's pretty over the top and not what i'd do but...
Increased duration will have no effect on regular haste. There is no gain from stacking them, you're right. I suspect he has two because he wants to stockpile charges of vaal haste. He has probably just dumped all the gems there because it fits neatly in a 4L.
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>>126822902
Ahh, makes a lot more sense now ! Thanks a bunch friend-o
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>>126822517
neversink's. dont listen to these other autist fagboys. like forreal you assholes make me sick to my motherufcking tummy how autistic you are with loot filters, neversinks is the only one that does it job well
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>>126823175
>neversinks is the only one that does it job well
but only if its job is to make you want to poke your eyes out every time you see it
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>>126823303
hang yourself autist
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>>126822892

>its pretty much "pay for the 6ling, get a shavs for free"

kek

i blame the retarded low chance for t10+ maps that kills the league so fast
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Am i just shit at this game or do rangers start to eat dicks near the end of cruel? I get chunked if something looks at me funny and TS isn't doing damage fast enough to clear shit reliably.
Another thing, should I stick with TS or just use LA and use something like frenzy or burning arrow for single target? LA looks like it does more but I cant tell since im shit.
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>>126825073
youre shit

ranger can be as good/bad as any other starting point
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Wow, I tried out NC. Definitely switching. I like the hardhitting weaponry.
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>>126825073
Everything sucks at the end of cruel

A4 Cruel is the hardest content you have to do before maps
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>>126825073
What >>126825889 said. Do your best to trudge through it. It's all downhill from there. You'll be able to rush straight to act 3 merc without having to stop to farm once.
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>>126825073
Use blast rain
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>>126793794
Gbe me HC guild inv
ign DeusVultYourAss
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haven't played in like a year is this game still a trainwreck where only 3-4 builds are worth a shit?

I heard they took out projectile shotgunning does this mean stuff like flame totems are completely fucked now?
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>>126818196
How so? Don't you need to spec into crit passives?
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>leagues are already dead

nice

game

poetards
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>>126826894
The only skill that was fucked from shotgun removal was freezing pulse,and it was already fucked so it's not like we lost anything.
balance is in a pretty good spot. Then there's bladefall. Bladefall is the new flameblast/spork/baby'sfirstbuild. It's actually fun though, so I don't mind it much.
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>>126826894
There are probably more viable builds right now then there has even been.

Once Ascendancy comes out in early july the number of viable builds will explode
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>>126827162

freezypulse has been getting shit on for a long ass time
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>>126827427
>Once Ascendancy comes out in early july the number of viable builds will explode

its sad you really think so

because ascendancy pretty much just railroads the game into "classic arpg" builds
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>>126827589
Yeah, that caster ranger sure is a classic arpg build
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>>126825828
>Wow, I tried out NC.
That's kewl m8. Personally, I prefer BW, even though a lot of people only use HY. Keep us informed.
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>>126809953
>sc
>steam
>2.1 FT

delete this
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reminder that if you index items you aren't selling then you are a stupid faggot and need to kill you'reself

you know who you are
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>>126828208
>madbabby who cant buy what xhe wants
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>>126827045

yeah you spec into crit
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How viable is to be a zombie spaming lag-generating fuckwad?

What is the best way to do so?
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>almost 2016
>still can't disable master missions from quest tracker
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>>126827721
>caster ranger
yeah, with 2/3 the nodes in her subclass trees applying only to attacks
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>>126828575
Well I'll guess what, I have 24 skill points and 24 refund points to use.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEswagB6ULYQ48EMwRLRRxGS4aOBo-Jy8n7SkuLJwspzLRNZI62DwtRUdJskrEVw1Y5VnzWiteXV8_ZIRmnmjybqpyD3sgfIN8uIIHghCCm4Nfg8yQVZo7ogCj8qeUr2y18rc-wGbDE8T2xq7R_dIh1abYvdlh2XzfsN-_4XPr7uw47TzwH_Gs8kH2rviT-b3-Cv6H

Here's my current tree with shit I could probably spec right now but don't need to since I have no difficulty doing anything. How much crit would I need.
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>>126810252
I still remember when these went for 35ex. Same with soul taker.

Even before the drop rate nerf soul takers went for 4 ex now they're like 1 ex each. Potentially now they will be more expensive due to challenges + reave build uses a soul taker (and it can work well on ice crash to).
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>>126828679

it's a beta
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>tfw reduced to running t5-t8 maps for 1% xp again because you refused to rmt high tier maps or currency to buy them
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>>126827427
>>126827589
At the moment the number of viable builds that can do end game maps are extremely high mainly because they fixed desync and you're not stuck making builds that work around desync (like the old flameblast).

sustaining maps was way easier though, but nobody really did high end maps consistently because a lot of the time you get desynced and died.
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>>126828815
Chain and 2 Proj+Crit nodes
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>>126828932
what level are you
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No lifers need to hurry the fuck up and start farming T10+ maps so they can unload their T8 maps for 1c each imo.
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>>126829073
90

>>126829009
eh sure. current build variety is much better compared to early 2.0

its just that ascendancy introduces certain building paths that look extremely strong, and 2 things can happen:

either the game is balanced around them
or they are allowed to stomp all over the content

both would reduce the builds people play
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>>126829228
league is already dead

>>126829432
wasting your time running maps that low at 90

a couple residences or bazaars are more than worth the cost

pay up
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>>126829808

i trust rng to give me some t9+'s before i run out of t8s
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>>126829432

there's tons of viable builds right now, but that doesn't mean there's variety right now

80% of the ladder will always be playing the cheapest and most braindead option (spork/flameblast/flame totem/bladefall/etc)

you can be a hipster spending tons of currency and planning to make a skill work that'll perform no better than Shitcrowx playing his cyclone coc build with a tabula and vagan dagger he copied from the forums

and that won't change after ascendency unless they rebalance difficultly (which would just kill the game instantly). people already stomp all over content, the only gate on the endgame is shitty droprates
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>>126830801

BRING BACK
SHOTGUN
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>>126829432
>>126830801
There's a difference between something being able to clear almost everything in the game and things that are viable.

The viable stuff at the moment is the braindead clear entire screen stuff since they nerfed reflect mobs hard that only they reflect and not the group (they should put reflect back to how it was to be honest).

They removed the thing that kept mass AoE clear the entire screen builds in check, but they didn't nerf these skills or builds.

Reason that people stomp over content is removal of things that kept it in check that I mentioned above, also beyond added a layer of difficulty.

Cast on crit just needs to be removed its broken overpowered ever since it was in the game same with old CWDT immortal call setup.

The people who race to 100 usually have a group to support them otherwise you don't stand a chance. You can no life in a week to 91 but people by then are already 98 because they run in groups putting domination on everything with a guy that has such ridiculous damage that speed doesn't matter and you earn much faster xp than everyone else due to it.

>>126830903
lol shotgun had the most braindead builds.

Hurrr tornado shot entire screen clear! Oh noes I get hit CWDT immortal call - lol ez game can't die 77/78 maps all day. That was what the game was like pre 2.0, even more braindead for ranged characters.

Meanwhile playing melee: ''have to skip cells boss since his multiple projectiles kill me in 0.2 seconds".
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>>126828560
>pissing people off is ebic trolling

yeah, nah, you're just a dumb asshole
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>>126831685
why are you mentioning tornado shot in a conversation regarding shotgunning

>coc is op
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>>126831823
because getting shotgunned with TS by random blue beyond archers with 6k hp to standard in beyond was the most retarded thing ever.
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>>126832069
>was

shotgun change didn't affect tornado shot whatsoever though

do you know what shotgunning is
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>>126832069
tornado shot still shotguns you know that right?

it was/is a different kind of shotgunning
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>>126810260
>making fun of another for their exp bar moving forward whilst yours is moving backwards
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What is the best single target skill for melee? Heavy strike knocback is so annoying. I'm torn between Molten Strike or Double Strike.
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what the motherfuck. I cannot for the life of me get any t4 maps to drop. is my rng dogshit or is this intended?
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>>126832069
Tornado shot has a built-in 'shotgun' effect nigger, tons of other skills don't.


At the end of TS there's 3 subprojectiles, if you use it with multiple projectiles, one subprojectile from each main projectile can hit the target = shotgun
Stuff like Freezing Pulse no longer has shotgun because you can only be hit once - and freezing pulse was a popular fairly modest build.
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>>126832340
cyclone
just like AoE
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>>126832184
>post once in the morning
>hardcucks are so triggered they still respond after a whole day
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Is it even a good idea to go Mind Over Matter + Zealot's Oath + Eldritch Battery? I'm pretty new and I'm not sure I understand how all of these function together mechanically.
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reminder all melee skills should have splash damage built in

reminder all projectile spells should have either chain, fork, or multiproj built in
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is it better to id rings ammys or save for the recipe?
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>>126832495
they do work
some people use that combination, it's especially used for SWT builds
it allows you to reserve all of your mana
however, you need a good ES pool not to run dry
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>join the guild
>it's full of finns and other unsavory mongoloids
>they're all stupid and greedy
>they all hate americans due to media brainwashing
>mfw i'm an american
>mfw my country is relevant
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why is there no standard talisman guild :(
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>>126832696
[clapping intensifies]
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>>126832415
baited for this exact reply
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>>126832495

only if you think wasting 10+ points in regen and travel nodes and making your ES absorb 70% less damage is worth not using a blood magic gem (it is in some cases since there's so many broken +more gems now)
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Did a streamer or something promote PoE recently?

Twitch viewership seems to have doubled compared to the last 2 or 3 leagues.

Have you guys been lying about my game dying?
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>>126832696
>not just using the secret discord chat

lmao kid
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>>126833243
this is a good patch and talisman is a fun league
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>>126833243
new league and race for 100 always has people interested

see what the viewership looks like in two weeks
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>>126833243

the Asscendancy announcement created some hype

but its all bait and switch since Ass paid league will be streamer and support only again, and the rabble wont get to play it until 2018
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>>126833414
Even the start of the leagues would only grab about 3K in the past.

These leagues are around the dying point and its at 4.4K on a Wednesday at 3pm
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>>126833529
dawg i saw beyond league with 10k one time
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Fun game, but I finally had the will to quit.

I literally can't get past t9 maps, I wish I could so I could have fun with the game, but nope, stuck fullclearing fucking 111q 30 packsize t9 maps and getting no drops.

Is there some trick to getting red maps? Any advice? Because I don't understand it.
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>>126833529
etup was averaging like 3-4k viewers a day for 2 weeks in tempest when he was pushing 100

nugi came back and ziggy has been streaming too

no surprise numbers are up
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>>126832696
Let the buttmad wash over you. Let it sustain you like it does so many of us. The buttmad gives us strength and reaffirms our dominance in the world.

;) stay buttmad faggots ;)
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>>126833243
theres always more viewership when you combine these two things: within a month of new league, when yurop and murika play time intersects

i'm already seeing popular streamers play less and viewership has already rapidly declined
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how is this even possible?
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>>126833643

im in the same place but im not quittin yet

its really shitty that PoE sees it fit to be only game that gates leveling areas behind rng, in effect reversing your progress if you get unlucky. forcing you to use currency just to be able to level

but eh
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Should I bother going from 6750 life EK with 40k physical +25k poison dps to 6000 life but with 40k physical + 50k chaos dps with 2 ming's heart?

Doesn't seem worth it for your average mindless mapping despite the huge damage buff, only seems to be worth doing when I stop at 95/96 and start fighting tier 15 daresso, double kaom, avatar of thunder, 80 rigvald etc to finish off my achieves.
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Thinking of running groundslam for the first time in a few years. Is kongor's still the go to weapon until you can grab a solid rare maul?
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>>126834362
i dont believe its a fair trade

thats more than 10% health you are losing
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>ED/Corruption
I AM BECOME AIDS, DESTROYER OF DRIED LAKE
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>>126834582

I also go from -60 chaos res to i think 70% chaos res?

though who the fuck does chaos damage endgame anyway kek.
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