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my guy edition
olde >>126620560


>DARK SOULS 3
>PSX 2015 Footage
[YouTube] DARK SOULS Ⅲ GamePlay Footage 【PSX 2015】 (embed) [Embed]
>Gameplay Trailer
[YouTube] DARK SOULS Ⅲ トレーラー第1弾 【gamescom 2015】 (embed) [Embed]
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Announcement Trailer (embed) [Embed]
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
[YouTube] Dark Souls 3 EXCLUSIVE LEAKS! - The Know (embed) [Embed]
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s (embed)
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1 (embed)

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX (embed)
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a (embed)

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E (embed)
>Essential Mods
DSFix: http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/19/?
PVP Watchdog: http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/849/?

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v (embed)
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First for quick rolls
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>>126697873
Kinda hope they implement that sidestep thing from BB
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>get new computer with 4x ram and vram
>dark souls 2 runs super smooth
>dark souls 1 runs like ass, even getting dc'd from online for framerate issues at the start of the game
I must be retarded or can't configure dsfix again or something, I used to play this shit (almost) perfectly on my old computer
fuck dark souls for pc
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>>126698074
I hope they make knights agile like in real life.
Fat rolling is such a joke.
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>>126698347
i think the das1 levels were a bit crazy.
i think the das2 fastroll should be midroll and work from there
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>>126698246
Yeah, DS1 is a bad port.

DS2 was pretty good, hopefully 3 will be good on release.
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I will be legitimately pissed if DS3 has any "praise the sun GROSS INCANDESCENCE XD oh also here's literally just havel the rock and ornstein and all the other popular characters from DS1 for no reason" shit
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>>126698535
the sun shit is still there
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>>126698595
day 1 pirate
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>>126698535
the sun covenant is gonna be there
old reference characters... I also think we could do without them, but there's gonna be some for sure
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>>126698535
It's certainly an easy route to go since DaS2 already provide them with the excuse, something about how great souls is able reincarnate/possess stuff in subsequent cycles.
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>>126698535
That's exactly what's going to happen. From's lazy and will reuse whatever they can whenever they can, but most people don't notice since most of the Souls community didn't know about From before DaS1.
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>>126698650
enjoy no online.
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>>126698671
Aren't the only characters reused from DeS patches and the crestfallen warrior?
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>>126698535
DaS3 bosses are called Heirs of Fire
DaS2 covenant is called Heirs of the Sun

Even if Miyazaki didn't intend for any direct connection, DEEPEST LORE people will draw lines and say that Solaire, aka Sunlight Bro Top-Dog is the final boss of DaS3.
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>>126698814
Solaire is Eileen
-Vaati
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>>126698775
There's them, then several weapons, the monk's headpiece, and some other stuff like soul magic and generic souls. Hell, the CU was supposed to have a glowstone but Atlus got all buttmad about it so they took it off and now we just have glowing characters.
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Sooo, I recently started to play DS2. Only From game I've played before is Bloodborne.
It was pretty limited with the stats you could upgrade, DS2 seems to have so much more variety.
Playing a strength character now, about lvl 70 and using morning star and zweihander.
This plain str character is becoming quite boring to play. Is it good idea to start to level something else to get a little variety? Throwing in pyromancy, hexes, spells or miracles?
Also, is it stupid for str char. to infuse weapon with fire or lightning if I dont have any int/fai, like in bb those two scaled with arcane? Or should I just stay on normal upgrade path and use those resins?
What levels does /dsg/ stop with their characters?
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The only thing I miss about GFWL was the ability to send messages to people you played with/against. There's no real easy way to do that on Steam and it makes me sad.
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Worst boss in the entire series?
Not Bed of Chaos, niggers.
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What's the best thrusting sword for PvP in DS1: Rapier, Estoc or BSS?
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>>126699389
Real King Allant
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>>126699389
sleeping bag of anarchy
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>>126699389
those 2 archers at anor londo
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>>126698914
Yeah, magics scale with INT/FTH in DaS2
Sorcery = INT
Miracles = FTH
Hexes = INT AND FTH (Lowest of the two)
Pyromancy = INT OR FTH (Total of the two)

If you have pure str, it's better to leave weapons uninfuse because they reduce your str scaling.

In DS2, don't stop leveling as long as you are gaining souls, because of the way online matchmaking work via Soul Memory.
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so i just upgraded my sunset staff to 5, why can't i upgrade it any further?
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>>126699202
With how soul memory works for PvP there's no reason to stop at any particular soul level, except to handicap yourself.

Infusing most elements, apart from magic, is fine at low INT/FTH.
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Why are those shadow set wearing motherfuckers everywhere in DkS2 now? It doesn't make any sense for them to be in every area like this.
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>>126698535
>Not liking the references to past characters
Did you not think it was awesome that Ornstein in DaS2 is left to guard ruins, Smough is nowhere to be seen, and his armor is worn out and unpolished? He's not even named, presumably because he's hollowed and even he can't remember his name.
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>>126699685
Weapons upgraded by Twinkling Titanite or Petrified Dragonbone can only be upgraded to +5. It's equivalent to +10 for regular titanite weapons.
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Anyone from /bbg/ here? Does Menas still post in your general? Will he come to visit /dsg/ when DaS3 is out? We miss him. :(
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>>126699828
non-human FUCKING CANNOT go hollow.
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>>126699706
Item description of shadow set:
>Used to hide in the cover of night.
Those who are especially adept assassins
are often hired as bodyguards.

>In an attempt to stave off the curse,
King Vendrick hired shadowmen to
put down the Hollows, but before long
they were Hollowed themselves.
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>>126699952
what about the hollow dogs everywhere in das1?
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>>126699695

Ok then, thanks for answer. Also, is there same kind of hard and softcap at stats like in bloodborne? Most were something like 25 to 50?
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>>126699979
>hollow dogs
uwotm9
they're rabid or something, not hollow
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>>126699828
Ornstein showing up was fan service and nothing more.
Literally HEY GUYS, WHO REMEMBERS THIS COOL GUY? ONLY PEOPLE THAT PLAYED DARK SOULS 1 WILL GET THIS!
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should i keep the souls of the bosses i killed if i don't plan on turning them into weapons?
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>>126700037
how can they be rabid if bacteria and viruses are gone hollow and doesn't prey on their cells?
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Right bros, first playthrough here, asking for a r8 on my progress and recommendation on what's left?

>beat four kings
>beat ceaseless demon
>beat that dragon in the sewers
>beat fatty and skinny
>beat the crystal dragon thing (ironically my hardest boss fight whereas 4 kangz were one of my easier ones)
>gargoyles
>taurus demon
>spider bitch
>sif wolf thing
>Nir (skeleton guy)
>Golumn
>Hydra sub boss
>Giant rat sub boss
>other sub bosses I can't remember
>Havel

That's all I can think off of the top of my head. Who's left? Also, I haven't used any companions and I only used tutorial to find out how to find specific things that are pretty well hidden (i.e knowing to wear the ring to fight the 4 kangz), I haven't used any guides on bosses (probably why I found that piece of shit crystal dragon so annoying).
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>>126700178
4 kings is easy if you have armor with good defence and a lot of hp
looks like you're missing the whole dlc
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>>126700285
both gwyns and painting lady off the top of my head

and other misc bosses
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>>126698535
>>126698595
>>126698662
>>126698671
The Sun has been pretty much confirmed to be an ambiguously evil entity though, so even if someone is praising the sun they're probably doing it with not very chivalrous intentions. Here's some writings you can find on gravestones from the network test area:
>“This exile was chased from his homeland, and haunted by a black sun”
>“To honour and shadowy retreats. Fear the sun’s tempations, and the winged executioner”
Oh yeah it's also fucking bleeding and has a giant world serpent coiling around it.
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>>126700468
nt vaati
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>>126700449

>both gwyns and painting lady

What area are they in?
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>He doesn't use the darkwood grain ring
>And a dagger
>And the dark hand
>With your favorite armor set

It's like you don't want to have fun
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>>126700285
keep going past ceaseless, the lava below him hardens and you can walk on it, there's a whole area past that you don't seem to have visited
also go back to undead parish, where that blacksmith NPC was (andre the giant) and go down that ladder, there is a titanite demon there and a whole area after it (it's connected to hydra place if you wanna come from the back)
also painted world of ariamis, look up how to enter it really
also DLC
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>>126700285

Definitely above average for a first playthrough, better than I did anyway. Took me well over 40 hours to get to around your point. Go take on the bed of chaos :^)
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>>126700325
it's not about "hard" you dumb shithead.
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>>126700492
It's all in the game bruh, no need for name-calling.
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am I the only one who gets turbospooked by the Gutter and Black Gulch
the whole concept is incredibly fucked up
going deep underground has always creeped me out too
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>>126700285
>beat four kings
What the fuck is "four kings"
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>>126700561
>also go back to undead parish, where that blacksmith NPC was (andre the giant) and go down that ladder, there is a titanite demon there and a whole area after it (it's connected to hydra place if you wanna come from the back)

The electric shooting scorpian king dude with the trident? I beat him early on, isn't he another sub boss?

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keep going past ceaseless, the lava below him hardens and you can walk on it, there's a whole area past that you don't seem to have visited

I'll probably go here next.
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>>126699706
>It doesn't make any sense for them to be in every area like this.

Because?
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>>126700697
if by sub boss you mean things that don't respawn, I guess
you missed a tiny area there before sif, there's a huge ass butterfly
go look around again
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>no Cass
>no Menas
>no God-King Lucifer
>no Afro
>no Kobra
>no Ippiki
>no Emarrel
>no Nora
>no Kirk
>no based Debug-anon
>no Pate-anon
>no Lightanon
>no Marisa
>no Zullie
>no Santa
This place has gone hollow.
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>>126700875
>posting this again

Why don't you just leave if that's how you feel? Why do you need e-celebs to enjoy a game and/or its community anyways?
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Just finished SOTFS today, have to say the changed enemy placement actually makes the game feel a hella lot better, especially with the Drangleic Castle and Dragon Aerie, real neat things they did over vanilla.

Got a question though, what SL did you guys do the DLCs at? I went in at SL 150 and didn't have too many problems with the bosses. Only took two tries with Blue Smelter and I was told the guy was stupid hard or some shit.

Also fuck Frigid Outskirts, fuck the magic crystal deers, and fuck the absurd ammount of HP/poise enemies have. The rest was really good though, the verticallity of the DLCs was a nice departure from DaS2's normal level design. Alonne is probably the best boss fight out of the two games even if hes easy once you realise to roll back 70% of the time
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>>126700285
>beat four kings
the fuck're you talking about?
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>>126701034
>have to say the changed enemy placement actually makes the game feel a hella lot better, especially with the Drangleic Castle
>random executioners chariot in drangleic castle just because
>not even the executioner himself is present
Myeh. I'd say that it's hit and miss.
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>>126699389
Old Iron King
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>>126700845

THe green moth thing? Yea I beat that, wasn't that a legit boss
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>>126701273
yes that is a boss, but you didn't mention it, so I thought you might have missed it
I did on my first playthrough
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>>126701230
He's not even the worst boss in his respective game, what are you talking about?
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why is it so hard to farm for the desert sorceress set?
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>>126701443
I asked "in the entire series". Though it's undoubtful that 4skins is THE worst in the entire history of gaming, people may have different opinions.
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>>126701564
Noone sane would say that Old Iron King is worse than the Prowling Magus.
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>>126701180
That and Heide's becomes a major clusterfuck after dragonrider dies were weakpoints, but I feel it took more steps forward than back, like moving the Flexile from Shrine of Winter to before the sinner, using the shaded woods ghosts more and the military camp before Telsorda actually having soldiers and not peasants, more Pursuers, ect.
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>>126701632
An I say again - 4cunts is still worse. Worse than ANYTHING. Got it faggot?
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>dark souls 3
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>faggot deviantFart/tumblr shit instead of a proper design
>retarded DPS race instead of an actual fight
>zero lore and absolute irrelevance to the game's plot
>undoubtedly the worst area AND the worst music in the entire game
Why is this even allowed? Jeesh From.
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>>126701363

Oh, yea there are too many damn bosses in this game
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>>126701632
>tfw Prowling Magus killed me more than any other boss in my twink run so far

Between my shit stamina, garbage agility and unupgraded weapons it was a real task trying to out damage their heals while managing enough stamina to dodge the lighting spears and floor crawlers.
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>get invaded
>spam healing potions until the faggot gets rekt
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Name a better weapon from the entire series that's better than Dark Soul's Claymore.

protip: you can't
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>>126702263
Longsword
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>>126702024
Back to Reddit.
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So let's finally determine the actual reasons why 4niggers sucks shit and is the absolute worst "boss" to ever exist in gaming.
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>>126699983
Some are 25, some are 40, etc

You can look up the soft caps on the stats pages of most Dark Souls 2 wikias.
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>>126702263
Hunter's Axe or Blueblood Sword
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Why is the darkwraith covenant nicknamed dickwraith? It's just another invasion covenant, it doesn't completely fuck up your world like gravelords do.
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>>126703001
Gravelord is too limited because it requires NG+
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DeS

It's better go play offline when going for a Plat run because of the world tedency, right?
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Anyone up for Smelter? Lv 68/219K SM
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>>126701034
>SL did you guys do the DLCs at?
Did them at around 110-140. Admittedly, I had a fair bit of trouble with bosses, but I mostly think it's because I suck. Great hammers trivialize a whole bunch of enemies with the 2h R2.
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Thought you guys would like this /v/ request.
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>>126704038
>>126704038
Nifty.
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>>126704038
nobody gives a fuck.
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What order do most people fight bosses in Demons Souls?

I did Tower of Latria last because it terrified me but I was so strong by the time I did it,I destroyed the apparently very difficult Maneaters without a sweat. Thinking about it all of the DeS bosses were easy aside from Flamelurker.
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>armorer dennis
literally fucking hitler
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>>126702024
When I get invaded I eat a shroom and run to heal every time. I also summon people and stall for blues with a bow.
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>>126704617
He's not so bad by himself. Having to deal with the Ninja Turtles at the same time, however, is a steaming load.
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>>126704617
You were close, but the real Hitler sticks to the DLCs.
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>>126704589
The gank squad in 1-4 is the worst unless you are a cheap ass range or magic faggot.
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>>126704617
Fucking Dennis.
Invaders, enemies and everyfuckingthingelse in SOTFS Iron Keep.

Just truly fuck my shit up From.
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>>126704787
Think they're trying to encourage you to use a seed... Which spawns in the same room as Dennis
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something strange is happening whenever i tab out of SotFS.

a small image of filthy frank appears for a split second.
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>>126704943
>People ALWAYS complain that they hate iron keep because of invaders
>I've got 200+ hours in Dark Souls 2 and the handful of times I've been invaded in Iron Keep it's by some shitter who I easily kill, or who sits next to mobs waiting for me to run into a group while I just sit on the bridge and wait to summon phantoms because faggotry can only be answered by faggotry
>MFW
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>>126704617
>>126704915
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>>126704915
His invasion during the Old Iron King gave me terminal ass cancer.
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>>126700087
anyone?
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>>126705218
I really hope DS3 has a lot of fucking asshole AI invaders like Maldron.
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>>126705263
Check the wiki if you have any interest in the weapons or magic you might want to make otherwise feel free to.
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i've got a int/dex thing going on, should i infuse my blacksteele katana with anything?
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>>126705270
Same here, I really enjoyed how well From made me hate Maldron. Definitely the best NPC invader by nautical miles.
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>>126700468
First time I've seen this shot. That looks rad as fuck
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>>126705320
Stats?

>>126700468
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>>126705320
Never infuse Blacksteel Katana. It gets very low elemental bonus damage.
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>>126705304
so these boss souls are only used for either weapon/spell making or spending?

what about the special souls?
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>>126699870
Hello not-Menas,

Yes, Menas still posts in this general. Mostly cancerous shit about 4 kings and talks about how great he is in third person.
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>>126705419
40 dex/ 40 int/ 30 fth
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>Want to do "cosplay" or themed characters in DS2 for co-op and invading
>Soul memory instead of level for matchmaking makes it hard to do
Back in DS1 I had so many characters of various levels that I made purely to sit in certain areas and invade, or co-op specific bosses.

>Sunpig I made purely for the bell gargoyles boss
>Just a naked character with the pig helmet and just enough faith to use lightning spears
>Helped scrubs kill gargoyles all day

SHIT WAS FUN.

What would be a good "Theme" character in DS2? You can't really do belltower unless you want to get invaded 24/7 while you wait for people to summon you.
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>>126705628
Probably not, BSK has the best dex scaling of any weapon in the game, split damage isn't all that great
Infusions in general are more of a pure int/faith guy thing
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>>126705715
>Back in DS1 I had so many characters of various levels that I made purely to sit in certain areas and invade, or co-op specific bosses.
>boot up the game
>play it
>agape ring at 30k SM
Boom you can now sit at one area for the rest of time.

If you want to bitch about SM then the actual complaint is that it forces you into a few areas where your SM tier is most active and there is no way of moving back, and you can't invade infinitely upwards meaning you are stuck to whatever area you chose, but if you take a SM tier thats orange in one place, slap on the agape ring you will be summoned there until there is nobody left playing that area.
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>>126705628
Infuse dark
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>that second bonfire in the gutter that is absolutely useless because it's on a dead end with nothing but a stupid jump, poison statues and a big dog
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What's the best DaS2 Greathammer and why?
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>>126705834
>You have to rush to a certain point in the game and wear a ring (Which takes up one of your four slots) at all times to stay at a certain point

That's fine if you want to stay at level 100+ and keep playing with friends, but if you want to limit yourself to a certain level it doesn't change much. If you DO die and lose souls you're still under-statted, and you can't spend your souls on items or spells, or upgades, or it does the same thing.

I.E. if I want to make a character that is a pure archer, bow only, arrows cost souls, I wouldn't be able to buy arrows without gimping my stat for co-op/invasion.
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20 INT good enough for pyro on the side as STR focused build?
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>>126705961
Isn't that the one that leads directly into the Gulch?
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>>126705729
>split damage isn't all that great

Is that a meme or something
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>>126705834
>agape ring
But I want souls to upgrade my shit/buy armor sets/get nifty boss weapons/buy consumables

>>126705990
Giant Warrior club in terms of raw damage. I'm partial to the great club since it's fairly light does decent damage and has long range for a great hammer.
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>>126706068
The way to the gulch is near but there's a wall between the bonfire and the maze of ladders that brings you there.
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>>126706010
>If you DO die and lose souls you're still under-statted, and you can't spend your souls on items or spells, or upgades, or it does the same thing.
What.

If you wear the ring you wont gain any souls, you get it the ring, spend all of your souls and run around 0 with risk. If you ever want to actually farm then you take the ring off, get some souls, put it back on, spend souls and then go back to running around without any souls on you.

If you want to do a dedicated coop build then you will be overleveled to all hell for most areas because the people doing the summoning are not nearly as minmaxes as you are.

If you want to coop a specific area with a specific build then its entirely doable and you have 4 ring slots. The only real issue is that you can't go far from whatever area you decided to start at, you can perfectly well make a dedicated coop build for helping out a specific area.


>>126706274 this applies to you too
You are spouting so much nonsensical and flat out wrong bullshit that Clan_Iraq would be proud. 999 arrows is 25k souls, most of the people playing in fucking no mans warf are at 200k, the consumables/upgrades issue isn't nearly as relevant as you would make it out to be.
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>>126706304
Or you could break the breakable wall and then its just a bonfire half way through the area

>>126706060
Might as well go faith if you are not planning on using it as your primary attack, pyro scales with int+faith and faith has more utility based stuff
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>want more Souls experience
>haven't played Scholar yet
>see that the seasonal discount and the discount for owning the original cuts the price to £4
>whynot.jpg
>install
>going through
>new more reasonable enemies everywhere
>not that many random open spaces
>seems they did a decent job
>got to Iron Keep
>twice as many knights before Smelter
>can't even rush the fog-gate now
>have to clear at least part of it to enter fog safely
>3 NPC invasions
Jesus christ why

All the other areas were fine so far, but this, holy fuck, so tedious...
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>>126706501
mainly STR but pyro on the side seemed fun, 40 STR/20 INT
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>>126705517
>cancerous shit about 4 kings
the one who used to do this died from dope overdrive, more than a year ago.
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why is sorcery so shit in sotfs now jesus christ i hit like a wet paper bag
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>>126706354
>Be at 100k soul memory
>Died once and lost 20k souls
>You're now 20k souls underleveled
Or
>Ne at 100k soul memory
>Spent 20k on spells
>Don't have the stat points to use certain gear you wanted to use
>Have to use un-upgraded armor/weapons unless you can get somebody to summon you and trade you things they spent their souls on

It limits themed characters and builds.

>>126706354
>999 arrows is 25k
What, basic or iron arrows? What about elemental arrows? Or poison/bleed arrows? What about throwing knives? What about firebombs?

If you want to make a character that uses no weapons and only throwing knives and bombs, you are investing a large portion of your soul memory into items and if you're wearing the agape ring you can't get more of said items without raising your soul memory.
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>>126706525
>before Smelter
You can skip Smelter if need be. The second bonfire isn't too far off.
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>>126706579
Magic is only shit in the DLC, in the base game it's still easy mode as fuck.
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>Haven't died to a single boss in Scholars
>Get to Darklurker
>Die 5 times before scrubbing it out with Claymore

About time. I was starting to think all that time in the chalice dungeons made me too gud
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>>126706591
>Be at 100k soul memory
>Died once and lost 20k souls
>You're now 20k souls underleveled
Or
>Ne at 100k soul memory
>Spent 20k on spells
See this shit is why I have a hard time of caring about anything you say, you have clearly never actually done a low SM build and seen how it goes so you actually think that 20k SM means ANYTHING.

If you want a low SM build then you never walk around with a lot of souls on you, you are either farming (which you should probably do as a phantom so there is even less risk) or walking around with the agape ring on, you will never lose souls from dying.
99 firebombs is 20k souls 99 throwing knives is 10k, and out of every summon I did in DS1, not a single person was a dedicated archer/consumables throwing guy, literally none you are making up an issue just for the sake of bitching about it.

Who are the people who want help coop?
People who can't beat an area on their first try or just want help, worse players.
What do worse players do?
Die

If you just play through the game and beat every area without dying 5 times you will be FAR ahead of all the people who would actually want to summon you, because they run around shoving souls into weapons they won't use, into non optimal stats and just dying in general.

You are making a mountain out of an anthill and you know it
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What is lowest level viable for forest pvp?
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>>126706525
Iron keep is pretty bad in SOTFS, one of the few areas they made worse.

>Heide's tower of flame after defeating dragonrider
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>>126706591
And lets not forget that consumables are farmable, you don't need to buy shit.
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>>126706957
>Out of every summon you did nobody did x niche build
Gee it's almost like it's uncommon!

>because they run around shoving souls into weapons they won't use, into non optimal stats and just dying in general.
I upgraded two weapons to +10 for the first half of the game, then I replaced them with a new set of weapons, then once I finished the game I found the weapons I liked the most instead of just stat based and upgraded those.

Now because I didn't decide on a single weapon to use for the entire game before I'd made my character, I have spent thousands of souls that I get nothing out of. As well, if you buy any consumables or vendor armor/weapons you are slowly but surely gimping yourself if you ever get invaded or plan to invade anybody.

In PvE it matters less, but it DOES make it so you will out-memory a certain area where you're out of the general range that people are usually there.
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Everybody already knows Soul Memory is a terrible mechanic.

The Agape Ring is a poor band-aid for a much poorer system.
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>>126707136
>Farmable
Bro, I cleared the entirety of No Man's Wharf in full item discovery gear until the mobs stopped respawning and only got 40 arrows.

Farming shit takes hours for something you could go through in one boss fight.
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>>126707058
>added more headless faggots in place of desert qts
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>>126707180
>Now because I didn't decide on a single weapon to use for the entire game before I'd made my character, I have spent thousands of souls that I get nothing out of. As well, if you buy any consumables or vendor armor/weapons you are slowly but surely gimping yourself if you ever get invaded or plan to invade anybody.
GAHAHA
GAHAHAHA

Ha
If you beat the game you had 1 mil + SM, probably something like 2-3 mil. Going up a single tier there is 500 000 souls or more, the 20k spent you upgrading a weapon doesn't matter shit, stop making it out to be worse than it is you dumb motherfucker.

>>126707373
>a neiche build is hard to do
Oh no.

Also if you were running "max item discovery" then you were probably running around with as many +item discovery things as possible which lowers the droprate, because you don't know shit about the game and just want to bitch anyway
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>>126707306

The Agape Ring is worse than a band-aid. It took away the one good thing SM had.
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>>126706591
Am I the only one who thinks caring about SM is a special kind of autistic?
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>>126707547
yes
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>>126707430
>You will never rescue the sorceress hanging out outside the windmill
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>>126707547
It's the same crowd that got hypermeta in DS1 with leveling and shit, possibly the worst of all the crowds the game gathered because limit themselves with some arbitrary breakpoints
>NO CAN'T LEVEL ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO DECIDE ON A BUILD AS SOON AS YOU START THE GAME
>NO WEAPON EXPERIMENTATION YOU PICK ONE AT THE START AND BUILD YOUR CHARACTER AROUND IT
>NO FUN ALLOWED
They care so much about muh meta and being optimal that they forgot everything else about the games.
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>>126705715
I made a Heide knight a while ago.

Sunbro'd outside of the dragonrider with the agape ring on at just under 60k and used the sun sword and that faggy parma until I got a Heide sword.

Most of my low-SM builds are under 60k and they see plenty of action at Heide and the forest, but the Heide knight is around 150k so I can stomp bellfags.

Also, you can stick your sign down just inside the belltower in the Iron Keep and then run back to where the puppet is.
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>console
>have to actually play the game to reroll characters and get gear for pvp
>can't just respec because le SM
das2 isn't bad, i like it, but this is just silly. at least leave me a glitch to dupe shit or something if you're going to gouge my pvp u cunts
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>>126705990
Sanctum Mace because insta poison charge that knocks opponents down long enough to rebuff/heal.
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>>126707603
i've never actually used any range weapons in combat aside from pulling. is it viable?
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>>126707694
In DS1 you can't respect at all and leveling cost far more and since everything is SL only there is much less variety.
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>>126707770
IDK I use the crossbow to pull and take out annoying bastards like the Amana priestesses.
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>>126707778
in das1 i could sl1 run through everything and still get my gear and hit pvp hotspots because i can control my SL

das2 i have to at least make it to agape ring and then cap my souls, which i need to actually do shit with besides leveling. It's just extemely inconvenient
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>>126707603
>>126707770

There's a hidden door behind her.
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>tfw want to get gangraped by Torturers in the Copse
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>>126707873
Sure it is, clearing 2 bosses and 2 areas to get an item and then have free reign over your levels is far more inconvenient than playing the entire game at SL1.
You are a fucking retard and thats the end of it.
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>>126698410
Uhm, DaS2 has faster rolls than DaS1.
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>>126707934
>Not fulfilling your deep dark fantasy and becoming their dungeon master
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>>126706501
>breakable wall
Please.
I was smashing my weapon in a couple of nearby walls, i didn't find it.
Also apparently there's a zipline somewhere.
This is what happens when you make the area look all same-y
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Is there a weapon tier chart available for DS1?
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>>126707881
MY PRINCESS I'M COMING
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>>126707683
Once you have hundreds of hours in the game what else do you do?

Why play a gimped character intentionally, when you've already done every thing the game has to offer?
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>>126708018
>Please.
It's right there nigga, start from the bonfire and move forwards like 10 steps then hit the wall to your right.
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>>126707972
Can someone do a comparison webm of flip vs quickroll?
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>>126706632
Well, of course, but I do want to go through everything, and the Smelter fight is pretty okay

It just seems that they did all they could to mess with speedrunners with all the added enemies, scenarios like these and random petrified statues.

>Brume Tower dlc key is in fire lizard pit
Fuck

At least they did use a few under-used enemies, which is cool

>>126707058
Does that trigger the Heidi knights patrols?
I was wondering that

>>126707603
>kill 3 lizards
>go outside
>examining the area
>seems the same
>fireballed on the head
>from the fucking top of the windmill

I kinda love the random ranged enemies they've added. Some of the crossbow dudes in Bastile were great too
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>>126707962
i can tell you dont pvp because you don't actually understand what sm does

there are things you spend souls on beyond levels
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>>126708094
Play a different game, or at least not assert that your precious meta and minmaxing is in any way the games were designed to be played.

>>126708201
I can tell you don't actually PvP because you don't understand what SM does. I have ran multiple different twinks, 100k difference in SM doesn't even mean anything while invading, it means even less for summons.

The bridge and the area always have players in them.

Let's be real here you are bitching because you like to see your soul amount go up and agape ring denies that which triggers your autism.
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>first time playing DS2
>shrine of amana
>kill all these mages and hard hitting knights or whatever
>get to bonfire with mushrooms
>peek my head out the next area
>20 mages shooting at me
fuck this place
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>>126708295
Amana on release was even MORE FUN.
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Why do the giant in DS2 look like hulking monstrosities with prolapsed anus faces?
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>>126708578
gaping != prolapsed
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>>126708136
I meant please as in
>how the fuck did i miss that
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>>126708291

100k? You'll get way, way more than that in a very short time if you PvP for some time and aren't shit at the game.
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>>126708887
And none of it matters because if I wanted to stay in one range I could
If I want to gain souls and move up I can
If I don't want to use a ring slot then CBEO's exist and work just fine.
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>>126707770
In PvP it's nice to have one handy because it can shut down spell-casting.
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>>126708530
It was the most fun I had in the series.
>actually used the brightness slider as recommended
>can't distinguish deep and shallow water without torch
>can't roll in water because of torch
>have to rely on shield and backstepping in water
>rush between isles and pillars to fight
>excellent exploration because of all those hidden treasure
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What SM should I start seeing summon signs at Iron Keep on PC? 200,000 right now and I haven't seen shit.
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>>126709210
PC Iron Keep Scholar is higher than 500k
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>>126709169
>TFW finding sunlight blade as a FTH character before FTH got shat on
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>3 new Berserk chapters
what a time to take a break from farming
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>>126708530
I still have nightmares about the path between Bonfire 2 and Bonfire 3.

>>126709210
If you look on the travel list you can see orange outlines on 3 zones. These are the zones most active with soapstones for your SM. If you're looking for help with the Smelter Demon Lucatiel's summon sign will appear if you find her in Harvest Valley, just before the Covetous Demon encounter (assuming you've talked to her in the Lost Bastille).
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>>126708014
>the Chariot
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R8 my dex build, /dsg/.

>I'm at the point now where I'll hit 40 vigor and start putting up strength and no longer be a dex build

That pesky soul memory.
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>>126709275
>Current offensive miracles
>Great Lightning Spear tickles enemies
what the fuck, From?
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>>126709539
One might say it's incandescently gross
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>>126709538
>31 VIT
No flynn ring for u
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>>126708952
It matters because you needlessly waste a ring slot that could be used for something much more important, like the Ring of the Living for example.
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>>126709169
It was great
Only at the moment did I appreciate that they allowed for both left and right hands to be exactly the same
>take torch
>move shield to right-hand slot
>swap between shield and weapon depending on how far/close I am from the casters
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>>126709650
CARLOOOOOOS
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>>126709539
They fucked up in calibration 1.08. They reduced the charges on all offensive miracles and intended to buff the damage but instead nerfed the damage by about 10%. There's a post about it on the Namco Bandai forums somewhere
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>>126709681
I wasn't minmaxing my equip load, I was just wearing whatever looked cool and trying to stay under 50% so my end is really high.
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>>126709689
You are fucking retarded anon.
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>>126709738
Why did they never fix it?
It isn't even fixed in SOTFS, is it?
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>>126709867
Who knows, it's not fixed in SotFS. I remember back in the day it took them months to fix the binoculars sprint glitch and parry airwalk glitch. Running around at sub 100k soul memory with a Dragon's Tooth sprinting behind people for backstabs in DaS2 before the agape ring was pretty absurd. If you weren't around for it here's a little video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yFkcIUSwLo
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Man I don't get it. This world tendency shit in DeS doesn't fucking work for me.

Sometimes I'll get benefits like picking up the Dragon Bone Smasher or Makoto, but when trying to find NPC's n shit like Selen or Scirvir they just don't show up.
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>>126710141
Bino boosting and parry walking were so much fun.
Completely broken, but fun.

>Video kind of related
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOzDfzp9Hw
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>>126710369
Check that your world tendency hasn't drifted.
It moves towards the player bases's average tendency over time.
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steam controller y/n
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So, who's the ultimate worst boss of the series? My vote goes to 4shits.
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>>126710456
Don't get me wrong, I loved them to move quickly through PvE and create builds very fast but people who used them in PvP were complete dickheads
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>>126710141
How did parry airwalking even work from a code perspective? I can't really wrap my head around how it came to be.
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>>126710750
Riposting locked your z axis coordinate for the duration of the animation so it would work on sloped surfaces I imagine (strange things happen when backstabbing and riposting on slopes, some weapons do more damage if this occurs). cancelling the riposte within the first few frames locked the Y-coordinate but never unlocked it when it was cancelled. The game thinks you're still riposting the enemy until the enemy is unloaded, due to a map unload from straying too far from the original enemy. When you jump your Y co-ordinate is updated but still locked when the jump finishes, this is why you could jump onto higher platforms to raise yourself and jump in mid-air to lower yourself.
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>>126710991
Z axis not Y axis, wasn't paying attention.
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>>126710369
Are you playing online?

That affects tendencies, so do keep that in mind
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>>126710991
>>126711086
I see. That's quite interesting. Thanks for the explanation.
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>>126710369

Play offline and remember that you have to return to the Nexus for the WT to update.
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>keep getting invasions in the forest
>they all turtle up and back away
Why do they invade if they're going to do this?
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How would you feel about a sci-fi souls game based on Dune?
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>>126712119
>sci-fi souls game
Yes

>based on Dune
Eh, don't know enough about it to judge

I would be cool with something closer to Shadowrun or Deus Ex or something, with elements of hacking/cyberworld being as important as physical combat
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>>126712119
Sci-fi souls? Y
Dune? Maybe.
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>>126712119
From has the armored core IP in their fridge so maybe they could use that. Have giant robots rolling around, swinging their techno-chainsaw-swords.
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Posted this a few days ago and left before I had to go out of state, and see any replies.
Is this a good DMC1 Dante setup? I really want the Darkmoon Blade for the buffed Alastor but I feel like I'm bloating my stats.
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>>126712119
FROM created very good atmosphere from works of Lovecraft so I'd love to see them try to usd Dune universe.
Not sure if the main story would be usable for a souls game though.
Maybe something from Dune-verse history like Butlerian jihad period would do.
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>>126713637
Switch DWGR with Chloranthy and vice versa
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How do you make twinblades good weapons and not helicopter flight aids?
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>>126712704
>summon Killy wielding GBE
>boss dies in one hit and you can just walk forward through the tunnel created by beam instead of searching for keys and fighting big mobs full of silicon creatures
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>>126713637
is this a pvp or pve build?
it's trash for pvp btw
>>
>they will never change the ugly as fuck floaty running animation in ds3
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>>126714572
>it's trash for pvp btw
Explain
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>>126714646
>he doesn't like the TWOSPEEDSFASTANDWAY2FAST running of Demon's Souls
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>>126714676
>12 poise
>split damage
>cestus and dragon bone fist
just use wolf ring and try to reach 56 poise and you will be set
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>>126714646
It's miles better than the clunky shit from DaS1.
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>>126714795
I NEED THAT SHORYUKEN BRO
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>>126714918
cmon man, you are only going to be able to hit bad players with those attacks
sorry
hang on let me try to create something for you really quickly
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How is the population on DaS1? Should I go for PC or PS3?
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>>126714795
how2fix split damage
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>>126715083
PC, population is surprisingly good. I'm getting like 3-6 summon signs at Bell Gargoyles all the time
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>>126715083
PS3 = better players
PC = more active
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>>126715248
>PS3 = better players
Japs?
>PC = more active
[citation needed]
I'm not saying you pull that out of your ass, just wanting to know from where you get the numbers.
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>>126714918
>>126715232
http://mmdks.com/7us9
alraight, here you have 56 poise so you won't get stunned often
i tried to minmax it as well as i could and just modify it however you want it
i keep it at 28 str because it doesn't really affect you too much because i assume you are going to onehand the weapon you should also consider putting alot of points into dex though
and there's a mod that turns this coat into dante's coat somewhere (if you play on PC)
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>>126715248
My very first invasion on PS3 was against a dragonbro that had a Great Club that flashed different colors/buffs every couple seconds.
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Is getting to a maxed out level a realistically obtainable goal if I actually trudge through every NG+ cycle of DS2?
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>>126715348
pretty sure PC is more active nowadays
but that's just something i've heard and people tell me
also alot of the ps3 players have switched to pc
>>
>friend has never played a souls game
>still watches vaati's lore videos
huh.
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>>126715348
>I'm not saying you pull that out of your ass, just wanting to know from where you get the numbers.
>consoles
>being EVER more active than PC
There is a reason people from PS3 and XBOX still come to this thread begging someone to drop them xth item they can't farm for sone reason.
And, duh, thats the reason PS3 has better players, because it has less retards.
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>>126715520
I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
If he eventually starts playing because of that I'd even dare to say that this is a good thing.
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>>126715248
>PS3 = better players
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>>126715663
PS3 has the better players yeah?
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>>126715663
It's a well known fact that the majority of Playstation users are the most skilled at any videogame.
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>>126715730
Neither does, it's entirely up to the individual you encounter. Attributing skill to machines is ridonkulous.
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what SM is good for PVP in DS2 SOTFS?
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i wish we fight egyptian-inspired gods in dark souls 3

it would be fun
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awoo
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nobody is summoning me ;_;
sl16 at gargoyles looking for fun...
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>>126716052
Maybe it's because your character is fugly
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>>126715952
2-3m is the hotspot.
5m is alive as well.
For low level invasions around Bastille and Luna, stay around 200k souls.
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>>126715248
>PC = more active
Playing on PC and if that's what you call active...
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>>126715419
>Warrior
>Claymore
>looks nothing like Dante
Here's a simple version with half the SL.
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>>126716139
my character is a beautiful waifu
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>>126716292
>any Souls character creation
>beautiful waifu
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Is there any reason to infuse my greataxe with chaos?
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>>126716689
twinking
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>>126716556
ds2 was pretty good
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>>126716164
the crimson robe looks nothing like dantes coat though
chesters coat is the closest thing you are going to get
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