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>horribly outdated FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hr9rYACD
>Arena Commander
who gives a fuck, 2.0 is out
Download: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download
Manual: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/hwb5x45eghhelr/source/AC-Manual-1-1-V7.pdf
Tweaks & FAQ: http://pastebin.com/QRWNvEVD
>Jump Point Current Issue
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xtjaptgtro9w0r/source/JumpPoint_03-12_Dec-15_Refining-The-Verse.pdf
>Jump Points
http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB
>"Holiday 2015 Goyim!"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15114-MISC-Reliant-Variants
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15123-Holiday-Livestream-Ship-Gallery
Pupil to Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4 [Embed]
2.1 is out to live
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15136-Star-Citizen-Alpha-21-Available
Letter from the chairman (102mil)
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15138-Letter-From-The-Chairman
Holiday ship sale
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15126-Holiday-Ship-Sale
>Weeklys
Ten for the Chinaman: https://youtu.be/MHLwAuM1J8c
The Amazing Abent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUC2_uYohw
Around the Girth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EytSKRg8ulQ
Reverse the Worst: http://imperialnews.network/2015/12/reverse-verse-episode-74/ (nobody wants to watch that shit)
>>STABILITY CONFIG FILE<<
http://pastebin.com/c6DrAptD
>>126640843
Dunno why you are posting that to me, I think the F-35 is extremely capable (and also extremely expensive)
>>126640885
>KWA trying to be relevant
>>126640843
While I love the F-35, it's a plane that is not needed.
Especially one to replace the A-10.
>>126641378
As F18s are kind of falling out of the sky at an alarming rate, some form of naval multirole replacement is absolutely necessary yes
>>126640885
cringe
>>126641019
>Expensive
>Actually cheaper than most high-end fourth gens by a significant margin
>>126641378
>MUH A-10
Good for COIN, a literal liability for everything else.
Last post about this because off-topic and talking to /scg/ about the F-35 sounds worse than eating glass.
>>126640885
Being a normie never felt so good.
Thanks for the self esteem boost.
Launch tubes when?
>>126641998
F-35 simply isn't as effective, proven, carries as much firepower or cheaper to maintain as an A-10 in a CAS role.
You could get and maintain like 9 A-10s for every F-35.
How about sending it down to the deck when smart munitions (which isn't anything new) simply can't do the job?
haha, as if anyone would risk a ~300m jet by going that low.
It's made of tissue paper and secret stealth paint.
A warthog is what? ~12m, a flying armored box that can throw 30mm shells into the face of any enemy and shrug off small arms fire like it's nothing.
I love the F-35 but it is simply NOT a replacement for the Hog for CAS.
but no, the shiny, expensive toys is what does it for the Air Force nowadays, regardless of combat performance.
>>126642637
Stop talking
>>126640885
Bretty gud, anon.
Golf clap.
>>126642697
Can't silence the truth;
Air Force wants to replace the greatest dedicated CAS aircraft ever made with some expensive multi-role fighter which is 30x the cost and 1/5th as good in the role.
>>126642637
>Send A-10 into actual warzone with AA
>it gets decimated because fat and slow
>Send F35 into actual warzone with AA
>can get close enough to strike AA before it's detected and then jet out
The A-10 is only good at loitering in uncontested airspace and shooting at lightly armored vehicles, it's Gau 8 is just dead weight at this point and can't destroy any tank made in the last 30 years
>>126642697
>stop talking
>>126643159
>k
kek, you aren't even trying, faggot. It's ok to be wrong.
>>126643525
Please don't reply to him, its like arguing with a SJW at this point
>Playing with delta mustang
>Decouple and super cruise towards location you want to sneak up on
>cut shield, weapons, and engine if you want to be that ballsy
>float in with a sig of 130 ish and a speed of 400
I wonder if this is actually a viable tactic
>>126643938
Not really, sounds like a surefire way to make you an easy target, especially in a wet-tissue tier ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DgZKobz3w8
>>126644742
I mean on stealth ships in general.
Shields don't do much for the mustang anyways, so having them off for a second wont change anything.
Ideally they wont even realize you are there until about 2000 meters out
Does anyone have any idea what the sig of a powered down stealth hornet is?
>>126644964
>below the asteroid
That's my jam
>>126644989
Ah, that's a whole nother ballpark, and we can't really say what's viable or not until we actually get the stealth mechanics implemented properly for us to play with.
>>126644989
Powered down ships currently emit zero EM/IR, with your IR slowly rising to normal operation levels. Regardless of what ship it is.
>>126645097
I'm just going by the findings of that reddit post about a year ago, I don't really know if anything has changed.
>>126644989
According to the stats, the delta isn't much of a stealth ship anyway. It's armor reduces its cross section by 15% and that about it.
>>126645659
He deletes all shitposting from the shitposting organizations. Goodbye.
>>126645615
Sounds about right, its 130 compared to my hornet's 160 ish
>>126644989
I do know that you basicly have to be in visual range before your sensors will pick up a powered down ghost. There was one parked at the security post and i was nearly at the station rings before my freelancer finally "saw" it
>>126645615
20% CS/IR reduction (which is the actual stats) is not nothing, but yes its not a stealth ship by nature.
Is there a way of stopping a ship spinning in space? I was at Karesh and parked my shitty Aurora. Somebody else got out of his ship midair, and it just started spinning. I tried to get in it but I couldn't stop it from moving.
>>126645659
>Implying
Fuck off KWA, I'll report all of your shitty weeb posts
>>126643080
Why don't we develop a proper modern CAS instead of keeping around an outdated air frame that is falling apart. I love the A10 but I also love the B24. Some times you got to move on. In a real war with equal opposition the A10 would get side lined. We can't afford outdated aircraft in this economy.
>>126646769
I'd be all for that.
However the thinking nowadays is one expensive aircraft for many roles which just isn't the proper way of going about it.
Haven't checked up on Star Citizen in many moons. Is it fun to play yet? I heard something about "2.0"
>>126646224
>Ben "the World eater" Lesnick
Hahahaha. On a serious note though, I don't think the Connie will be ever as modular as, say, Caterpillar or Retaliator. The way it is built is already retarded as fuck. The only modular thing about it may be the docking bay for the Merlin. Loading bay seems too essential in its current form.
>>126646889
>isn't the proper way of going about it.
From reading the reports it sounds like they realize thet now but they are in too deep to go back now.
>>126647342
I used to be a big believer of "Scam Citizen" until this new patch came out, also I can't stand Elite Dangerous anymore.
>>126647694
This.
I was also in the scam citizen boat until they finally release something (somewhat) in working condition regarding the persistent universe.
Now I'm cautiously optimistic.
>>126647861
>>126647694
I cannot wait to endlessly post the same couple of videos of the full game released on /v/.
Won't even shill it, just let them eat their own fucking words
>>126647694
>tfw believer from the start
>2.0 had the opposite effect
What a strange world we live in
>>126648008
It's better to expect absolutely nothing and be pleasantly surprised, than to be hyped and let down.
See: every kickstarter
>>126647694
>>126647861
Thirded. I used to shitpost the fuck out of this general with "SCAM SHITIZEN" and other bullshit because people here get triggered, but my mind changed a few months back when they showed open world stuff.>Was on ED hyp train
>shilled it to death and gave SC the middle finger of vapor ware
>mfw E:D is quite possibly closest a game can get to vaporware and SC is finally coming together
I was so wrong...
>>126648383
>literally the only org shitposting here anymore is the weebshitters
>trying to edge themselves into /scg/ to be relevant
>WAAAH JANNY IS BULLYING ME :((((
Victim complex at it's finest, Not surprised neckbeards who pretend to be little girls have mental illnesses
Fuck off back to /grief/
>>126647734
Assuming the Aquila still gets it's custom bridge. They might try to skip it to get the variants done faster.
On the note of stealth I made a comparison of the standard hornet and the delta mustang on and off http://imgur.com/a/02RhU
TL;DR
Hornet
On: 299 EM 269 IR
Off: 155 EM 125 IR
Mustang
On: 222 EM 140 IR
Off: 135 EM 40 IR
Conclusion: Hornet is very hot
>>126648383
Fuck off weeb nigger. "EVERYBODY FEEL SORRY FOR US SHITPOSTERS"
fucking kill yourself.
>>126648529
>tfw you bought horizons
>>126648642
Neat anon, but also pretty useless while stealth is entirely unimplemented as a proper mechanic, along with active/passive sensors and all that bullshit
>>126648801
Did they remove it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/2zbyl5/stealth_signature_testing_in_arena_commander/
>>126648383
Cry more faggot.
>>126648758
> tfw you at least have a few working brain cells so you didn't buy an expansion with 2 barebone features for 60$
>>126648950
I bought it with gift money but yeah.
>>126648898
No, I'm just saying while there are the beginnings in there, the fact that current ship sensors can look in a perfect sphere around themselves and generally never have a problem seeing you before you engage, (especially because everyone is actively radiating at all times) and there aren't really any opportunities or uses for it yet makes it less useful.
>>126648758
Naw m8. I saw through their bullshit early. Also, Pupil To Planet basically RIP'ed Horizons. It's only a matter of time now.
>>126648383
Fuck off.
I'm going to upgrade my Aurora MR to another ship.
I want a ship that has at least 10 cargo capacity and is overall better than the Aurora in any way.
I'm mostly a dogfighting person but I also really like trading and exploration which is why I want at least some cargo space.
Are any of these any good?
F7C Hornet
Freelancer/Freelancer MIS?
Cutlass Black
Reliant Tana
>>126649305
You won't be able to do any of that shit for ages, just buy it with in game money.
the reliant is gonna be available at all times right? not only the sale ?
>>126649305
Just get an Avenger Titan for now instead of dumping a 100 dollars on the game. It's a cheap solid multi-purpose ship. Maybe then try the Tana when its flyable.
>some hardpoints go from heavy fixed to medium gimballed to doubled light weapons
Quad guns on turrets fucking when? I'd much prefer 4 S1s over 2 S2s. While it won't do as much damage, it would have more cover fire, increasing chance of hitting.
It's really hard waiting, guys.
How can I effectively forget about this game for 3+ months? I want to come back every once in a while and see the changes in progress now that things are speeding up a bit. I hate waiting day by day.
>>126649707
>some hardpoints go from heavy fixed to medium gimballed to doubled light weapons
Literally just the normal hardpoint system
>>126649870
I didn't imply that wasn't the case, but when will we be able to change turrets with 2 S3s to 4 S2s? Or 2 S2s to 4 S1s?
>>126649869
close the /scg/ get another game on, maybe witcher, fallout, some ass creed and lose yourself in that for a while, dont check the RSI website etcyou wont make it a day anyway
>>126649672
yoo guys?
>>126650113>you wont make it a day anyway
haha, fagfucking save me from this hell
>>126650079
When they make the appropirate mounts
>>126650359
Oh shit. The Gladiator with all rocket pods would be some horrible shit to fight against if you aren't a fighter.
>turreted S2s turn into quad S1s
>Retaliator being buffed to all S2s on turrets
>mfw top retaliator turrets can converge 12 S1 guns if the pilot knows what he's doing
I'd feel like I'm piloting a fucking Des Moines cruiser in space or something.
>Pre-christmas had a laugh looking at the goons bashing the game
>They're still doing it, the same people too
Why would you care that much about a game you want to fail?
>>126649869
There's not really too much left for them to do if you think about it. They can already randomly generate systems so they just have to fix bugs and collision detection,right?
>>126649869
I stopped checking for a year, then my rig died on me, now I can't play the Alpha, DON'T STOP.I'll finally be able to buy a new one soon if I don't have magically become broke again
>>126649869
Find something else that will take longer to come out, and wait for that instead
Like Star Wars Episode 9
>>126651267
They don't want to look at their own failures. Why are you compensating by commenting on their situation?
Tell me about your mother anon.
>>126651774
More like Fraudian
>launch game
>crash
>launch again
>go to PU
>"Unknown File Error" x3
>crash
>finally make it to Port Olisar
>undock, fly to a comm array, pop a few pirates
>EVA to reset comm array
>success
>re-enter my ship
>crash
It wasn't this bad a couple weeks ago. Are the servers fucked up or something?
>>126641019
F-35 is extremely trash considering the amount of time and money going into it.
>>126651905
I hear PTU is worth setting up
>>126652029
Your life is extremely trash considering the amount of time and money your parents put into you
>>126652029
It really isn't, it's just not a dogfighter
People have it in their brains that being a good jet means turning really well, that's not the case.
>>126651428
>>126651568
I have google chrome and just got Stayfocused and will set the timer to 4 weeks. Problem is, it doesn't work in incognito mode, which I use as a workaround when I'm desperate. How do I disable incognito?
>>126652029
You're right, but why bother telling the shills?
>>126652029
Fuck off, Sprey
>>126652029
give me a squad of a-29 every time
>>126652607
>a-29
This nigga knows whats up.
https://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow
>>126651905
Downside: they will all be killed immediately
Upside: they cost nothing so you can keep having them killed.
>>126642637
Doesn't the A-10 need a bird bath every time it fires its fuckoff gun?
>>126652029
If only people actually looked at all the side projects that have to be done to ships in order to actually field the f-35
Can you guys stop being autistic about real life ships and start being autistic about videogame ships?
>>126653094
Cover the deck because jet exhaust is hot?
>>126653270
Unlike real ships there's no argument that the hornet is the best though
muh caterpillar
The Retaliartor is extremely trash considering the amount of development time put into it and the price.
>>126653463
The Redeemer is even more trash considering the amount of time and effort they spent to setup the shitty contest
>>126653429
>getting attacked because 'hurr that's pirate ship you must be pirate'
>>126653463
Depends if it is the bane of Idris/Javelin whales or not
>>126653529
This I agree with
>>126653862
all true
>>126652791
Fascinating and sad.
>>126653369
3 prototype deck coverings on 2 amphibs so far, which will eventually have to go on every CVN, LHD, and LHA. As well since all of the unrep cargo stations were designed for a max load of a f-18 engine (smaller because there are two) there has to be redesigned new heavy stations on all the cargo ships (17 of them) as well each CVN, LHD, and LHA will need new receiving stations to handle the increased tension required for the weight. Also the f-35 engines are too heavy for regular ch-60s so you would have to use mh-53s which are fucking huge in comparison.
tl;dr skyrocketing costs for the support systems for an overpriced plane.
>>126654089
No shit
>>126653529
I am so annoyed they have the retaliatior going 20m/s slower than a Constellation again. They were already saying the ship was unpowered, then they decide to cut its combat speed by fucking 50.
>>126652181
>People have it in their brains that being a good jet means turning really well, that's not the case.
If they hdn't called it 'F', then people would maybe not expect this.
But leave it to the 'muh fighters' jocks to insist on everything being air-to-air, all day, every day, forever, despite the fact that the F-35 is supposed to repalce pretty much every plane that can even carry bombs.
The smart move would've been to make an A-35.
>>126654459
I mean even air to air the thing isn't a slouch, it just relies on missiles
It can lock onto something nearly 100 miles away and fire it, or fire at something behind, beside or below it
All hopefully without being detected
This disgusting pubbie response to this is "muh f4 phantom vietnams" not realizing that missile technology has advanced a huge amount
>>126654089
thats an f-18 engine, the f-35 one is a lot fucking bigger, and a shit ton heavier
>>126656141
but is it bigger and heavier than two f18 engines
>>126656304
yup
>>126656521
By how much
And how much power do they put out
I was promised Sabre autism, not this shit
>>126656615
>>126656521
>>126656304
>>126656141
>>126654948
>>126654459
Fuck off
>>126656730
found the sabre autist!
>>126656789
>>126656730
Saber*
jouster shits get out
Gimbal users leave
>>126656854
>They say zee because it rhymes in the nursery song
If you guys were responsible for game balance, how would you give the players a way to counter the hornet cost effectively?
Aegis apologists leave
>>126656730
All this shit got started because some fucker compared the Potato to a f-35
>>126657219
What the hell are you talking about
>>126656615
Shit man, I dont know I just work on ships and fix hydraulics/cranes/forklifts, I just learned all this from the fancy engineers that come here and plan this shit out.
>guy was rocking out to the national anthem with his guitar/amp, shit was cash
If im using fixed load out anyway, is it worth it to use the S3 tarantulas or are the S2s better for some reason?
>>126657219
We say Z because zed sounds silly
The delta mustang is very nearly an effective counter to the hornet, I would make it a bit more maneuverable, and make it to where pilots dont black out the second they try to turn
>>126657456
I'm just saying a single F18's engine has a maximum thrust of 10,000 lbf, and an F35's engine has a thrust of 40,000 lbf, if it's a couple hundred pounds heavier it seems like a fair trade
>>126657908
Will you use fucking google rather than asking /scg/ and some mouthbreather Navy faggot that doesn't even know how much engines weigh?
>>126657539
CIG seems to have issues with us seeing the XMLs for 2.X for some reason. I don't believe the weapon balance has changed since 1.3 very much, though.
The S3s have higher DPS but much lower projectile speed. You'll have an easier time hitting people with the S2s.
>>126658316
I did, there doesn't seem to be a confirmed weight of the F-35's engine, which makes sense.
>ctrl+f carrack
>no results
really motherfuckers? really?
>>126658706
Should turn like shit for balance
>>126657908
superhornet - 13,000-22,000 ftlbs - 2,445 lbs
f-35 - 25,000-40,000 ftlbs - 3,750 lbs
not including all packaging
>>126658706
I think the Harbinger will make the Gladiator largely obsolete until it gets quad racks or something else to help it fill its role better than it currently does.
I think it'll probably be my go-to ship considering the number of people that want to go for mid-sized vessels, and those who will joust all day every day.
Only issue is if I meet a Gladicuck
>>126658706
I don't like the profile. It's nice of them to include my very own escape COFFIN though.
>>126658316
hey man, i make a lot more than those mouthbreathing navy faggots thank you very much, also its not like this thread has any purpose right now anyhow, its about as useful as /meg/ except replace waifus with shipfus
>>126657219
Reduce the number of flares so they can't be spammed endlessly. Make all the S2 and S3 missile suck less. Make God damn sure a super hornet is never faster than a normal hornet or ghost
>>126658706
Butthurt weeb detected.
I feel as if Vanguards will be pointless in the PU.
sure they will have range but what's the point if they can't dogfight?
>>126659556
They'll turn like a heavy fighter. Because thats what they are.
Even if its reduced to cruising away in a direction, decoupling, and using the forward armament defensively, all that dakka is going to hurt.
>>126660019
>Greatness
You mean the shitposting throne
Great, first furries, then autists and now weeaboos.
Just different flavors of the same shit.
>>126660019
>we
>>126658706
The amount of dakka on the nose of the warden is impressive, I can only imagine it will handle very poorly
>>126660019
>we
>pedophile manchildren think so highly of themselves
>>126660545
it must really suck to have to post about yourselves.
You must be desperate.
>>126659556
Once were playing in a space larger than the fucking space around that gas giant the range of ships will matter a lot more.
Vanguards are long range fighters, which I imagine will be a pretty big deal.
>>126660545
>but I'm already like $500 in.
Why though. You're spoiling the satisfaction you would have gotten by earning those ships normally.
>>126660695
Hornets don't even have a jump drive so they can't chase you across systems, which is probably where the Vanguard comes in.
>>126661617
The only ships that don't have a jump drive are snub/parasite fighters.
>>126661682
I'm probably misremembering it, maybe I'm thinking of the lack of fuel which limits it to one system effectively. They wanted to make the Hornet be based off a carrier/mothership basically.
native oculus rift support fucking when. I want to live the dream
>>126661871
There is some ages-old info that said the military hornets have no jump drive, but carry even more guns and ammo and better shields and a stronger reactor etc.
No idea if this is still accurate or relevant.
>>126661871
Not all ships come with a jump drive by default, but given its functionality it should be dirt cheap to get one in game so it doesn't matter
>>126662128
Considering Quantum travel is now a function of your jump drive, I don't see any ships not coming with one at launch. Even if it is shitty.
>>126662035
Probably.
>>126662035
Races are also meant to be held just in normal space, across a system.
>>126661953
>native facebook support
lol
>>126662035
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/14188-The-Murray-Cup
This is pretty much all we have so far
>>126663087
HULL series have refuelling tanks for escorts. Its a non-issue.
I hope betting on races becomes a thing and people mysteriously crash on the third lap to throw the race
>>126663197
>inb4 hornet scrub rams the transport while trying to refuel.
>>126663376
Okay, anon.
If you can't fight Hornets, you're pretty shirt.
>>126662343
Some will have full jump drives some will just have quantum drives. They still want buying your first jump drive to be a major part of the early play experience. The checkpoint for leaving the starter area and all that.
Will it be possible to transfer fuel by hand from a freighter to another ship without the use of special equipment?
>>126663746
I'm saying that Hornets aren't the flying rapemachine you seem to be making them out to be, and having them as escorts that need to refuel off the HULL every now and then is sufficient.
>Why fly a Sabre if a Hornet can be modded for stealth?
Because the Ghost has shit-tier stealth and sacrifices most of its firepower to have it? Are you high?
I hope you can put drop tanks on hardpoints
>>126663883
People love to forget that theres going to be a major difference between carrier based ships and long range ships.
>>126663736
Fuel stored in cargo containers to another hold probably, but I doubt you can fill tanks up
>>126664261
It still has inferior stealth, arguably has less armament if the saber's S3 gimbal can be a fixed S4, and the hornet still has shit tier hornet maneuverability
>>126664286
That said, if the Hornet is as powerful as people here make them out to be, I don't see people choosing to fly a Gladius in their carrier for example
>>126664261
>It still has decent enough stealth, and it still has 4 guns
It has 2, less than the Sabre.
If you're attaching either turret, you're shitting all over any advantage you have from the armor by increasing your EM/IR through that.
Oh no, 2 S3 guns! What an uncounterable beast of destruction!
>The last 2 years seem to contest that statement, anon.
If you think the leaderboards are an indicator of anything, you're a moron. Gladius' are the top-tier dogfighter in 1.3, and we'll see in 2.0 when it isn't broken.
Only thing Hornets actually have is broken-ass IM mode gimbals, which aren't going to stay.
>>126664440
>can't see where you're going
I think that concept needs work
>>126664440
I was hoping to turn my Catt into a ghetto support ship but if it can't do fuel I won't bother.
>>126664881
>Getting triggered by facts
The Hornet can be easily blown the fuck out.
Its overpowered to a degree, but like I said, its not a symptom of the ship itself. Its more of gimbals and right now, GT-870 spam.
Which won't remain.
>>126664881
I didn't make any shitty remarks.
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I have a saber, and would like it to be decent at the very least
that said I dont want it to be the best otherwise every minmaxing shitter is just gonna flock to it
as it stands I can take care of most hornets with a mustang, given the greater maneuverability and weaponry of the saber I'm sure it'll dominate in the hands of a capable pilot, similar to the gladius
>>126652791
I've always liked vice, they cover all sorts of interesting things.
>>126665864
I think they're pretty placeholder, but yes.
I imagine you might get a few options but it won't be a standard mount.
>>126664926
I imagine if you want a sort of refueling/staging thing, you would need something more dedicated like the Crucible. Otherwise you could probably get variants of other ships like the Starliner, but you probably won't be able to get very big ships in there
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/IGAIR
I mean, this is kind of autistic but at the same time sort of brilliant
>>126667284
Jesus christ
>>126667284
It's only really autistic if people running that org actually take it (and themselves) seriously.
>>126667284
This looks more like the fun kind of autism.
I like it.
>>126667284
Why would people want to be a bus driver in-game?
>>126667284
>>126667690
At least their "backstory" is more believable than all those fucking military orgs
>>126664620
It has 3 S3 hard points, and the non super variants are actually pretty damn agile right now at least till your boost runs out. And they've said the Sabre will be rather fragile.
>>126667284
It's the good kind of autism, where they just do what they like and fill out the background of the game and make it feel more alive.
>>126668410
the Saber is 2000 KG more than the gladius with more thrusters which are more powerful
The hornet weighs 5000 more than the saber with similar maneuvering thrusters
>>126668790
With Chris Roberts that doesn't mean the Hornet is less maneuverable
>>126669012
Subtle shitposting is still shitposting, weeb.
>>126669005
You are right but we have no reason to assume the hornet will be more maneuverable, especially as we know that it's not very maneuverable and the sabre is focused on maneuverability
>>126669012
Get out, faggot.
>>126669412
Just get the fuck out already.
>>126669316
>if you ignore them they go away!
That's not how it works.
>>126669012
Will you people ever leave?
>>126669316
>hate you less
No, faggot, if you niggers stopped posting your shitty KWA/ved/kong or whatever else bullshit, the general would be fine. Those orgs have eternally ruined their reputation here, and organizations don't even have any use in the game yet. Leave now. Thanks.
>>126669670
>let's just let the shitposting sit here!
>the shitposters would hate us less if we let them do what they want!
Why are you still here?
>>126669919
>banter
You must be new here. The shitposting from earlier this year and all years before it were so bad that I almost considered this to be the worst general on /vg/. It was almost impossible to discuss the development of the game, and that's been happening for fucking ever. Now why is it a surprise that people want the removal of all signs of it now? Just don't post your cancerous KWA fuckery and discuss the game.
>>126669919
your new is showing.
Orgposting is cancer.
>>126670552
>December 2013
>okay with orgposting
k
>>126670614
It would only make sense if they used existing weapons companies.
>one hundred million dollars
>servers causing even top-of-the-line rigs to stall at 5 FPS
>>126670843
I would like to join in the discussion about why the Constellation should be the best dogfighting ship, and how CIG are not doing her justice
>>126670921
More money does not mean problems are solved faster.
>>126671057
I guess we see orgposting differently.
Also, I hope S42 doesn't release in 2016. I don't think it would be ready for release. Maybe spring 2017. They only completed mocap in spring of this year, so they'd only have a year and a half to make what was called "20 hours of gameplay" which I don't believe could be made in only a year and a half.
Whoever at CIG said 2016 is shooting themselves in the foot.
>Release dates
>>126664440
>anti-grav repulsor tech exists
>ships still operate on a single gravity zone instead of maximizing usable space with their geometry
>>126672005
What are you trying to prove?
>>126672007
I still think it's at least another 14+ months. The PU should be early 2018 considering that everything used in S42 will be used in the PU. What worries me about the PU is that they have 100+ systems to make for launch with plenty of space stations, aliens and their entire fleets, more human ships, yada yada.
There's still so much to be done in regards to the rest of the game. This ProcGen had better be fucking spectacular.
>>126672741
I am posting SC content.
>>126672816
downboat
that's leddit lingo, right?
>2014 February
>>126672683
Sounds unsafe as fuck tbqh
>>126672683
>expecting people to wrap their heads around hard sci-fi
It is what it is. Will get are hard sci-fi game some day.
>>126673368
then why operate gravity at all inside a ship?
I wish I could run Star Citizen as well as I do Elite Dangerous.
or that ED was actually fun.
>>126672816
I'm trying to upvote but it just keeps shrinking wtf
>>126673479
for that matter why use conventional engines when you can just create an endless hole the mass of the ship can fall toward to travel through space
>>126672816
I just sort by new posts anyway. Fucking echo chambers.
>>126665864
I think the S2 guns are special to the Vanguard.
>>126672816
You're obviously trying to get a rise out of people.
>>126673079
I don't know, family. I guess their missed dates have done a number on how I perceive their ability to follow a date.
>>126673742
I don't get it. Why is this some kind of shocking revelation?
Should I pick up a single seat ship like the Delta or Reliant while the sale is still ongoing?
Already have a Gladiator, Vanguard, Constellation and Crucible.
>>126665864
You probably won't want to change them anyway. Some one pulled the stats from the game files and found that they are m4a cannons on steroids.
>>126674281
reliant looks like a good single person multirole ship, but you've already got a good hangar
>>126673742
More
For I wish to LEL at this game
>>126674028
>the S2 guns are special to the Vanguard.
The Warden has some sort of special laser cannons, the Harbinger has slightly better ones and the Sentinel comes with Suckerpunches iirc. So they can be replaced, but the selection is going to be limited.
>>126674281
>Crucible
Best support ship
>Constellation
Best all arounder of the medium ships
>Vanguard
decent
Remove Gladiator and buy a Reliant Kore. Get Vanguard upgrade kit to the Harbinger (replace Gladiator bomber role) and you should be set.
>>126673742
>So I just watched this week's Starcast show on Twitch - and BadNewsBaron stated he had read that Ben confirmed that CIG is planning to sell ship packages that include ships bigger than simple starter ships POST-Release e.g. Connies and Hornets.
That's some middle school level gossip.
>>126674661
>Remove Gladiator
It canpossiblycarry a variety of stuff on the pylons though, while the Harbinger only has internal bays.
>Get Vanguard upgrade kit to the Harbinger
I have one, just waiting until it's flyable so I can use the Warden in the meantime.
But yeah, I think I'll pick up a Reliant for some minor hauling in case multicrew ships aren't viable on day 1.
>>126676089
>variety of stuff on the pylons
I hope they do this. It would give the Gladiator and Gladius a unique advantage to other more powerful craft.
so it there any reason why I shouldn't become a hornetshitter, at least until more interesting ships are available?
>>126676089
Missiles are garbage though.
>>126677592
As cool as the MIS is I think it should have only existed in the lore and maybe scatered in the PU as a collector item.
Can you buy shit in the in game stores? Like guns? I've tried hitting f on them and nothing
>>126679187
Not yet. That's probably coming in 2.2.
>>126676089
>Size 5 torp
no fucking way. That would put the nail in the coffin for the retaliator. There would be no incentive to use it over a gladiator if that configuration is possible.
>>126679898
torpedo size classes are all over the place. Last I saw, torpedo have their own size scale now rather than using missile sizes like that image does.
>>126680183
Can the turret op turn around and shoot the torpedoes, thus killing everyone on the ship?
>>126680235
>Gladiator has always had bigger torps than a Retaliator
Should I buy the Mustang Alpha starter pack and upgrade it to the Reliant Kore?Will the Reliant be flyable in the next 6 months?
>>126680235
No it doesn't you retard. The gladiator has S2 torps (currently placeholder with missiles) and the retaliator will get S3 torps.
Do you even have a game package?
>>126680657
Should be hangar ready soon.
Flight ready who knows.
>>126679187
Stores have been talked about a lot lately. I think we might see them sooner than most think.
>>126680551
Don't know, fucker quantum jumped away before I could shoot the torps
>>126680657
Buy the LN pack, a ccu to Avenger Titan and an avenger to reliant swap and then sit on that until the Reliant is either flyable or giving you the correct loaner ship.
>>126681662
They are just cosmetical anyway. It spawns Stalker V if you try to fire the torpedos.
Apart from that, missiles are supposed to not explode when shot.
>>126681869
I shot down about 4 missiles in total by now. Do you mean they don't explode when inactive?
>>126682896
Probably. It would be too easy to kill a ship with repeaters or gatlings if you could blow up missile racks.
>>126682896
Yeah. I didn't think it was possible to shoot down missiles yet though.
>>126679898
I can see a Gladiator carrying 8 S5s desu. It would be balanced by the ship being heavy/slow as fuck (Stalker V weighs 1,1 tons currently iirc) and consuming lots of fuel.
Meanwhile the Retaliator could carry a bigger payload (I guess 6 bigger torpedos deal more damage then 8 significantly smaller ones) through multiple systems without depending on a carrier and is able to somewhat defend itself.
>inb4 Retaliator is shit
>>126683378
Considering they wouldn't explode when unarmed, I don't know why they'd go through the trouble of implementing that.
Postin simple webms
If you are out there mrgrand you were a good sport
>>126684180
This hornet was literally fighting me with its hands behind its back
Its wings were somehow still folded and every time he shot the wing mounted lasers shot to the side
>>126653529
Money well spent imo. CIG got some genuine insight into a production capable ship pipeline, a few talented employees and shitloads of (almost) free advertising. I doubt the whole thing cost that much.
>>126686690
Those and this old one are all I've got for now
It's surprising how few webms I see in this generals
>>126663746
don't forget that originally the hornet was going to be the mary-sue of space fighters. Now we have a million ships with complex roles CIG have to quietly nerf it back to something more sensible.
>play 2.0
>framerate is much better, routinely hitting above 45 FPS on Very High, but it crashes constantly
>play 2.1
>0 (zero) crashes, but the framerate makes the game literally unplayable
>>126687307
Fuck off with your logo bullshit.
>>126676089
If this comes true, I think the 19 S1 missiles would be the best option. Faggots have tons of flares anyway, so being able to soften them up/damage components with some S1s would be better than bringing only a few S2s or 3s.
>>126664926
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it's designed to do. There will probably be refeuling modules, repair modules, exploration modules, "salvage" modules etc.
obviously it's not gonna carry a huge amount of fuel but it'll probably be able to ghetto refuel/rearm/repair a few fighters if you want it to.
>>126687898
>what it's designed to do
I don't think so. That's more along the lines of the Crucible, since it has repair functionality and also a refuel and rearm garage.
The ship interior zoning isn't exactly as good as it was said to be. We have yet to get past 16 ships. Let's us all hold hands and pray that we at least get to 60 PC ships + NPC ships
>>126676089
I want a saber with a belly full of tiny missiles
I want a Sabre with a belly full of MY tiny missiles
>>126672007
>they met the PU alpha deadline
Not trying to shitpost you know what the P in PU stands for? The U?
It's multi-crew with a fancy lobby. They've still got a lot of work to do before they even consider adding persistence to the game.
>>126688710
l-lewd
>>126688471
They're runing into restrictions on the server side now. Traking all that location data is putting to much stress on the server. They talked about paying to have more cores but it becomes exponentially more expensive.
>>126689424
RIP star citizenA-are the leftovers from the 100mil enough to pay for it?
>>126688710
Please don't sexualize the star-fighters, anon
>>126689526
Maybe. They're trying to find ways around it. Vanguard is a good example of that. Alot of original unique anamation have been cut so far. The new damage system helps too. I think CIG will need to make compromise.
>>126688549
Retaliator Itano Circus when
>>126690108
Like what?
>>126690108
Considering they can barely hold shit together with 10 people in an instance, they're going to have to cut a lot of corners.
[spoilers]there's always a chance one of the fat fuck devs will have an epiphany during their next heart attack and solve the infrastructure problem[/spoiler]
>>126690436
Select your text you want spoilered and press ctrl-s.
>>126689953
>dat Triikor
I sure hope there's more of this.
>>126663442
Pretty much this.
>>126663883
Hornets are absolutely the flying rapemachine in 2.0.
The thing is, 2.0 isn't the entirety of the Arena Commander history, and it's not going to be the entirety of the game's future.
Right now, weapon balance is borked and the handling characteristics of most fighters are just off. From what I've seen of 2.1, things will be much different. The Avenger is going to make a huge comeback.
>>126690221
Well I guess they already are. Ships are starting to share consoles.
Unfortunately I'm not convinced they will ever make it to 100 players/ships. I've watched a lot of the interviews and I feel like NPC crew is becoming a bigger priority. I just get that vibe from the teem.
>>126690875
>NPC crew
if it means being able to have more ships and stuff going on, then it's whatever. Being limited to anything below 50 ships and instance would basically end the game right there.
Thankyou Chris "FIDELITY" Roberts for limiting yourself.
>>126674271
Yeah, uh, this is news to anyone? I'm fine with this, too. If somebody wants to hop in with a ship they probably can't fly worth a damn, that's fine by me.
>>126690875
Yeah well they've kind of painted themselves into a corner there. If you can do "anything" why would you want to be a console jockey managing some ship's subsystems? It's cool that there are people out there like that, but tbqh real life makes it difficult for more than a few people to regularly congregate into one place at one time. Making it essential to even running a ship is a problem.
>>126692346
Well to be fair, there are plenty of insane weirdos who want to be console jockeys.
I also know some people who just want to be boarding parties or space marines.
>>126690842
>the Avenger will make a come back
Why? The incredibly bugged speed?
>>126690842
>Hornets are absolutely the flying rapemachine in 2.0.
You are exaggerating. They are just the best for farming points on AC.
>>126694669
Also the fact that no one can upgrade their shitty stock shields and missiles are the worst they've ever been is helping the hornet rape train quite a bit.
>>126674763
Chris already confirmed this in person though, who gives a shit?
>>126695867
This. The Hornet is the king of monoboats. Due to any strategy or equipment that can counter or be an alternative to monoboating is the either nerfed, bugged, or unimplemented, the Hornet will remain on top for now.
>>126695867
the mustang and aurora can upgrade their shields
I made a little webm of the cryastro bots because they are kawaii
>>126696310
The amount of stupidity in this post is actually awe inspiring. Congrats anon
>Sitting on a retaliator
>Only ships I can upgrade it to are a Carrack, Crucible, or Hull E
>>126698867
>a Carrack
I fucking wonder what you should upgrade to
>>126698924
It's a cool ship for sure, but I'm hesitant to go with an exploration ship.
>>126698867
??????
>>126698136
When did they add those? I haven't seen them the couple times I've been to CryAstro
>>126667284
I actually got an invitation to join them at some officer rank. I'm assuming it was from before they had hundreds of members, idk. should I reply?
>>126699221
I already have vanguard, orion, endeavor. Friend has a reclaimer.
>>126699112
Fair enough. The Retaliator will be getting some attention soon, since it couldn't defend itself against a wayward shopping cart as it stands now.
Meanwhile, the Crucible is an extraordinary platform for organization operations, and can do a whole hell of a lot considering what it's supposed to be there for.
At the same time, the Hull-E is a behemoth, a frigate-sized cargo ship that can carry the weight of an entire colony on it's back. However, it'll probably require an organization to run without being steamrolled by any pirates that feel like messing with your day.
The Carrack is a bit of a mix-up of sensors and cargo, if you keep the generic cargo pods on the bottom instead of upgrading them to whatever the modules will be. It's the Constellation of the Medium-sized ships, with a little something for everyone, but not necessarily enough of it to do exactly the thing you want if that thing isn't exploring.
It's really dependent on what you want to do in the game. Two of them are good options, but the Hull-E is kind of garbage.
>>126699510
Yeah I'm not saying your assessment of the Hull-E is wrong, I just get tempted because I used to make bank solo running trade ships I had no right successfully running in other games.
The carrack might be a better starting option for income depending on how they handle the exploration system, and see more use though.
>>126699560
Why's that?
>>126699758
Hull E will be a better money maker, but Carrack will be more fun
>>126700098
I-I'll play with you on your Carrack on a regular basis, anon.
>>126700007
>Hull E will be a better money maker
In the long run, with a proper set up of crew, escorts and stable trade routes
Carrack has the potential to start out a lot faster, with less work involved, and always has the option of swapping out of running cargo
If you get a Hull E, you'd better be dedicated to hauling crates full time or it's just going to be a waste of money
>>126700007
>Having to choose between money and fun.
Actually I have backup ships so I might go with the Hull E just because it won't be my only ship, I might be able to make some money with it to support my fun on my other ships.
>>126700098
You might start looking for an org that socializes on team speak before the game comes out, make some friends, and have some crew ready to go.
>>126696243
I don't give a shit.
I'm actually pro ship sale.
It's just a case of Sally told Billy that she overheard Jimmy talking aboust Susie who was on the phone with Anne who works with Stu that said Tommy called in sick because Rachel has herpes.
>>126700098
A solo-flown Hull D could be taken out by a single pirate
>>126700397
>not wanting to have fun adventures on your barely adequately outfitted Totally-not-the-Bebop, always super poor and only just winging it on low supplies, with a ragtag group of misfits
>>126700520
>pirate
I don't think so, brosef
>>126700604
Actually that pretty much describes my current group, but I also like getting lodsemoney for big guns.
>>126700696
>implying Ben has any influence on balance whatsoever
>>126700997
just get LTI goi!
>>126700997
Star Citizen is more skill based than being about grinding for the best equipment. You can have fun with PvP right off the bat
>>126701028
LTI is easy to get now, so why not.
>>126701143
keep telling yourself that you hornet pilot
>>126701224
That's true, but if you can get it without extra cost it doesn't hurt to have. I managed to convert all my ships to LTI in the anniversary sale for no extra money.
>>126701265
Hornet shitter is just the catchall for anyone you are butthurt towards now right?
Actual hornet pilots think the game is nothing to do with skill and 100% meta, which is why they fly hornet, probably monoboating the FOTM guns and jousting
>>126701552
There's probably going to be more debris than ships to repair. Not sure how you'd find it in the vastness of space though, did they say it has some sort of debris radar?
>>126701959
Nice. That's probably a safer bet for money then.
>>126700604
>totally not the bebop
That would require a ship that can hold multiple single seat fighters. So far the Idris is the smallest thing that could do that.
>>126701959
That looks so cool. Haven't paid much attention to it, but is there any info on how the research ships will work? Like what is there to research? Wondering if I should upgrade my LTI 315P to the Reliant research variant.
>>126702613
Something like a bright red Merlin? :^)
>load up 2.0
>you still can't fucking pick your loadouts for Port Olisar
0/10
>Kruger makes a medium-fighter
>dat styling
>It's a amped up Merlin-like airframe + QD with the same emphasis on centre-line cannon
>basically Swordfish
Would you shill for this, /scg/?
>>126702930
>What is there to research
There's not a lot yet, but I made game idea suggestions that probably no one read.
I suggested they let you pick up xeno from planets and study their traits and use them in experiments and maybe create new life forms. Depending on the creatures you make, you might make some docile pets, violent xenomorphs that break out easily and kill everyone on the ship if you give them the chance and don't use proper precautions.
Or maybe work with virology working on curing a virus that might break out and infect the crew and you have to put people in quarantine and try to fix them or let them die.
The only thing with that is, you'd have to have customs that scans ships for hostile lifeforms, big or small and denies you landing if it's not sorted. This would leave floating endeavors out in space filled with xenomorphs for players to go investigate, recover, or scavenge.I hope they input some of this, I really don't want the science to be boring, or something like it with engineering and constructing stuff and experimenting.
>>126703174
Looks kinda like the Consolidated Outland aesthetic to me.
>>126703185
That sounds really cool but pretty complicated. Would probably be an assload of work to implement something like this. But yeah I hope they come up with something cool. Already got enough combat capable ships. I want something other than bounty hunting/fighting. Exploration might be cool with openening up wormholes and shit but science could be really neat as well if done right. Then again, that salvaging display looks pretty neat as well.
>>126702972
;^) or a khartu-al
>>126703367
Well a lot of it would actually be fairly easy to implement. The hardest thing would be the xenobiology section, depending on if you create new ones or not. If you just find them that's another matter all together. They'd just have to craft the aliens themselves for you to find and that'd be fairly straight forward. A good procedural generation of them would be more difficult but possible. Though we'll see. I just don't want to be balancing meters in my ship in a WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CARD, minigame.
>>126703379
And maybe one of these outfitted with guns? ;^D
>>126703478
Oh, to add, CIG has already talked about adding Xeno monsters in for us to encounter so that's one one less thing they're 'forced' to implement.
I have some questions, as I've been interested in this game for several months now, I forgot it existed then came back to it
So is it worth the $45 right now, to me it seems like it is, the game looks beautiful. But should I hold out for a few months? $45 is kinda a big deal to me right now, but I feel like it'd be an investment later on of course.
Do a lot of you guys use dual joysticks like some other people do? How hard is it with a mouse and keyboard? Flying ships with a mouse and keyboard are usually hard, and it seems like this game is really detailed so it'll probably be harder
Right now, how big is this new patch? Is there a lot to do in the universe? A lot of missions? Or is it basically a teaser? Is anything in the new patch's universe randomized?
>>126704135
>So is it worth the $45 right now, to me it seems like it is, the game looks beautiful. But should I hold out for a few months? $45 is kinda a big deal to me right now, but I feel like it'd be an investment later on of course.
That's for you to decide, you seem to have your mind made up already
>Do a lot of you guys use dual joysticks like some other people do? How hard is it with a mouse and keyboard? Flying ships with a mouse and keyboard are usually hard, and it seems like this game is really detailed so it'll probably be harder
Only autists use dual joysticks, kb+m is fine
>Right now, how big is this new patch? Is there a lot to do in the universe? A lot of missions? Or is it basically a teaser? Is anything in the new patch's universe randomized?
It's a teaser
>>126704135
You're paying for a product in the alpha stage, something that will remain unfinished for a few more years. If you consider $45 to be a big deal then you should wait.
I only use a KB+M, it's somewhat easy.
2.0 is a teaser. It has a few missions, stations and ships to fuck around in. It's worth an evening.
>>126704273
>>126704462
>>126704325
Thanks for the reply guys. I'll probably buy the game soon then. I'm pretty confident in what this game has to offer for later, and I was really worried I was gonna have to buy two fucking joysticks.
>>126703174
I'd buy that in a heartbeat
What is the best size 3 weapon?
>>126652029
That's happened with almost EVERY single modern US fighter jet, yet most of them end up amazing. Takes a while but they grow into themselves
>>126706943
Your mom
>>126704135
The game is splitting payment between single player and multiplayer and probably increasing in price, at the end of next month. Better hurry.
>>126688549
>Saber full of tiny missiles
If it is possible, will 3 Sabers bring a Macross missile Hell going?
>>126644964
>mfw MISC goodness
>>126713767
>MISC
>'Good'
You can tell it was designed by Asians
>try to do the comms array quest
>game crashes multiple times, resets the quest
>have attempted the quest 5 or 6 times now
I am still hype as fuck
>>126704273
>>126704325
>>126704462
Aw man, I was looking forward to buying dual joysticks. I feel like I can't get enough precision with my mouse. I don't want to be an autist though...
>>126714201
Join the PTU, it seems to be a good bit more stable.
>>126648529
Well, at least you admitted what you did!
>>126714015
>designed by Asians
and no bitching Kimikoone fucking job CIG
what's this about the game bugging on core i5 processors (only like the most popular gaming cpu)
>>126717314
>he fell for the i5 is good enough for gaming meme
>All of these people wanting the Hull D or E from the start of the PU.
I don't understand. It's going to cost a fuckload of money to run one of those, and it was already said that getting a full haul is relatively rare for those massive ships anyway. Why don't people get things like Hull Cs, Starfarers, or Crucibles? People in deep space will always need fuel, repairs and ammo. Getting a full haul with a starfarer (which can also carry a decent amount of dry-goods) or Hull C sounds significantly easier as well. Once people and orgainzations in the game begin piling up money for the larger jobs, then get the Hull D when time permits it.
>>126717314
>le russian proof rooster
>>126717314
should've bought AMD ;^)
>>126717314
Desktop i5 dont have hyperthreading.
>>126717969
my last amd processor was been a sempron 2800+, just let amd die and IBM buy their assets already.
>>126717710
>People in deep space will always need fuel
With all the combat ships I'm going to enjoy seeing them stranded out in the black from burning all that fuel doing combat maneuvers.
>Pulls up starfarer, rolls down window
>looks like you need some fuel buddy. We're running a 5% off special on fillups too!
> ($fuel_base * 300%)- 5%
>>126718036
SC hs to be the first game ever to really use many cores effectively.
Should i stay with Freelancer Max with a Vanguard Harbringer or go with the catapillar and a Starfarer
>>126718348
Good thing they've said you'll never be actually stranded (can always move) and regular combat draining fuel was dropped as an idea, isn't it :)
>>126718348
>($fuel_base * 300%)- 5%
>>126717314
>>126718036
Does it really run poorly on an I5?
It seems to run okay ish for me, and my comp is hardly a powerhouse
>>126718561
>can always move
Enjoy your 3 meat space days getting back to port
>regular combat draining fuel was dropped
citation needed, but plenty of retards will still run out
>>126719212
>citation needed, but plenty of retards will still run out
There are only boost / AF fuel and JP/QD fuel now. Can't run out in SCM / Cruise mode.
Get read up on the times, man
>>126718960
He was trolling.
I also run it on an i5 2500K, and it runs OK.
But I can already tell that it will not run OK anymore when they come around to adding AI or pretty much anything that increases CPU load, because it pushes the thing to 80 - 90% on all four cores right now.
>>126719265
>Can't run out in SCM / Cruise mode
I'm sure that its just not implemented yet. Fuel should be a critical resource to manage once we hit beta. Might as well run the ships off of space magic™ otherwise.
>>126719680
No, Chris specifically said so.
>>126719680
Getting anywhere in cruise mode only is going to suck m8
>>126719573
I have a new 6600k 6m beside me that I've yet to install, hoping it with new 16gb of ram and a beefier graphics card will let me at least maintain 30 fps for the most part in the persistent universe on medium
I know a lot of the FPS issues are serverside but still...
>>126719680
Go into the game and fly to any location using cruise mode.
>>126719738
mfw extortion fuel prices or selling coordinates for aggressive salvaging operations for those that refuse my business is deadthanks chris!
>>126719968
If you combine that with a HBM2 card that will hit next year, you'll be fine for WAY more than 30fps.
>>126721083
>Implying you'll need that shit
Its CPU bound like a motherfucker
>>126714015
lmao
>>126717314
It's like the only game in the world that uses hyperthreading, so i5 performance sucks.
>>126719961
>look at distance to port
>look at top speed in cruise mode
>determine the ETA
>power off all other systems and go afk
>
>>126722098
Except for the part where it takes 20 hours from Port Olisar to the security post in Crusader, which amounts to a fucking tiny QD jump
>>126721305
>1920x1080
What a worthless graph. Who the fuck is dumb enough to buy a 760 or better and not get 2560x1440?
>>126722098
>Forget about it/become busy
>Overshoot or crash
I guess it doesn't matter with all the LTI tho
>>126694669
Nigga, I own a hornet. They are broken as fuck in 2.0 AC. They are too fast (bugged), too durable (bugged damage model), and boat the most weapons. You combine that with the fact that they fucked up the flight model in 2.0 and light fighters don't have an agility advantage (the Gladius in particular is fucked, it handles WORSE than the Hornet), and it's absolutely hands down the best ship in 2.0, it's not even close.
Instead of coming up with nonsense bullshit like "No, no, the Hornet doesn't completely outclass every other ship in this patch," just accept that 2.0 fucked up Arena Commander to the point of being almost unplayable between the crashes, the broken flight model, the blackout bug in the Avenger, ballistic cannon shield penetration, etc.
The Gladiator was king of shit mountain in Missile Commander and the only thing even in the realm of competitiveness was the Gladius. I pointed out how stupid broken the Gladiator was when Spark IIs were broken, and I'll point out how stupid broken the Hornet is now.
>>126693660
Very fast (bugged) and very agile (don't think that's a bug).
>>126721305
I know.
I will upgrade from my current i5 2500K next year, the 770 GTX I got when my AMD shitheap died last year will be good enough for the time being.
But HBM2 is still the thing to aim for in graphics cards, getting anything else right now instead of waiting for the new stuf fto arrive in 2016 would be pretty stupid.
>>126722265
Tempest IIs, not Spark IIs.
>>126722205
You're an idiot.
>>126722205
im sticking with 1080p and have a 970
why? because both my displays are 1080p native, im not gonna buy new displays for 1440p fag
>>126722345
>>126722438
Enjoy your dogshit pixel density.
>>126722098
>come back to a BTFO ship
>>126722529
says the faggot using 1440p and not 4k
dumbass
>>126722623
4K is better and the monitors are cheap enough now, but it's not worth the framerate penalty. On a 27" monitor WQHD is still sharp as fuck.
If Pascal can do 4K comfortably on games like SC then I'll upgrade, otherwise it's not worth it.
If you actually tried 1440 you wouldn't go back to shitty 1080. It's disgusting.
>>126722098
>ETA: 17days
How to get good at piloting?
It seems like all I do is shift e then track the guy, which works fine enough but if they are any decent they will fuck me
>>126722963
>4K is better
We're at the cusp of the VR age. I'd take a facerift over a 4K monitor any day.
>>126722205
People with 60+Hz monitors?
>>126723771
cheaper then 3 4K monitors for wrap around.
>>126723675
I've not tried any of the VR stuff but I don't see how they're going to get the pixel density they need for it to not look shitty whilst keeping the costs sensible. Also a WQHD/4K monitor is good for more than gaming.
>Have an issue where on startup the screen would go black and lock up
>alt tab and ctrl alt delete do nothing, just have to restart
>realize while streaming that its actually not locked up, my screen is black but its visible and functioning in the stream
>realize I can fix it by just turning my monitor on and off
Why
>>126723846
Right now these have the same problem as 4K, to get the most out of them you need to spend a fortune on GPUs.
1440 is typically 20-30% lower FPS than 1080. Given the choice between
>1440/59-60Hz at 60 FPS
>1080/140Hz at 90 FPS
I'd take 1440 any day.
>>126724031
true, not to mention latency. I guess it comes down to preference. I mostly use my PC for games and remoting into my work computers. 4K wouldn't be as big a boost for me as VR would.
>>126724457
90FPS is still a good thing to have in certain games mate. Especially considering that the pixel density does not need to go down.
>>126725050
If I did nothing with my PC except play CS:GO then yes, I probably would have a 140Hz 1080 monitor. This is because 140 FPS is possible in CS:GO, and because 140 FPS is a noticeable benefit in a game like this.
But for pretty much every other game I own (and for everything that isn't gaming) I'd much rather have a bigger, sharper screen.
>Especially considering that the pixel density does not need to go down.
For a 1080 monitor to have the same pixel density as a 27" 1440 monitor it would have to be 20.25" (17.65"x9.93"). I don't think anyone even makes 1080 monitors this small, and certainly not in 140 Hz.
>>126726282
>I don't think anyone even makes 1080 monitors this small, and certainly not in 140 Hz.
They most certainly do.
>>126724457
Yeah and if FPS is that low you can just set your game to 1080p and turn up AA. The nice thing about 1440p is the pixel patch is getting to a point where you can play with out AA. Also after having a 144hz monitor I can't go back.
>>126726918
>Yeah and if FPS is that low you can just set your game to 1080p and turn up AA.
That looks fucking disgusting though, worse than native 1080p because of the scaling.
>>126726918
I would love a 144Hz 1440 monitor but they are super expensive, and I'm not playing enough games at the moment which reliably get more than 70-80 FPS.
>>126727052
This is true, scaling is awful. I'm fine keeping 1440 and just turning other settings down.
>>126727052
I don't know man. Maybe I have bad eyesight.
>>126727156
>I would love a 144Hz 1440 monitor but they are super expensive
The only reason I got it was because my monitor broke and I had the spare cash. But yeah I would wait for the price to go down. Probably won't happen until other manufacturers adopt them. The 1440p 144hz panels are being made in small batches by one manufacturer.
More kareah skirmishes
cannons feel op
>>126728329
>cannons feel op
That's because they are.
Tarantulas are the meta because they do a fuck ton of damage and pierce shields without losing much power.
>>126728329
>cannons feel op
No shit, you've got 4 of the most OP guns of the last few patches
>>126728329
Thanks, I'm stuck at my parents house till Friday so I'm enjoying the videos.
>People saying 4 s3 guns on turrets not enough for a freelance.
>>126728329
is that the delta?
you just replaced the missle pods with guns?
>>126728767
They let people replace the ROCKET pods with guns when they couldn't be bothered or were incapable of fixing them
>>126728767
Yes and yes
The delta mustang reminds me of that autistic "mistakes into miracles" picture
Two more tarantulas changes fucking everything
Freelancer Max is flyable in the ptu right?
>>126728756
Honestly im not even sure what one would do with more firepower
maybe kill constellations faster
>>126729859
base only
>>126729890
And lastly some consolidated outland quality
>>126729490
What makes the Tarantulas better than the Strife Mass Driver? Just the ROF?
twitch.tv slash twerk17 slash v/30918359
Derek continued to be BTFO
>>126730928
ROF, not using up dickloads of power..
>>126728756
The Freelancer's current side guns are fine. They still do a shit ton of damage when you manage to hit with all four tarantulas. At most maybe the manned turret could stand to be upgraded to S2's. I do think agility should be upped a bit, so it's noticeably more maneuverable than a Connie, and the view is still horrible though.
>>126731514
wow. is that the "upgraded" view port?
>>126731514
>I do think agility should be upped a bit, so it's noticeably more maneuverable than a Connie, and the view is still horrible though.
kek, what? You high?
The Constellation is already almost Hornet-tier. Upping it past that and all the ships will be acting like single seat fighter
>>126731632
No, they haven't changed the cockpit window yet. They said they might not even get to that in 2.1. The freelancer still needs a shit ton of work before it should be put on live. The side door and top docking collar still don't open. It's completely missing a radar screen and weapon status screen. Afterburner goes through boost stupidly fast. And you can't even select the ship on the holotable yet.
>>126731137
It's really cool that someone like Derek Smart exists to be completely wrong about everything.
Remember guys, CIG is running out of money, the 100 million is gone, they are going to shut their doors by the end of Spring, you will never have anything except for jpgs of spaceship concept art.
>>126732324
Well, I'm still not entirely convinced that the Merchantman will ever exist as anything but jpegs.
>>126731137
Made a weebum of it, just because the twitch link is so fucking clunky
Just proof that QT is actually in-space, not faked loading screen like E:D
>>126732647
Please don't ruin my dreams
>>126730694
>consolidated outland quality
>>126729890
>>126730694
What are you using to make your webms? I'm having trouble figuring out how they're only 2-3MB when mine end up being 6-10 for way less footage.
>>126732647
It has a greybox model not on live servers
>>126732741
I live to see Smarts words forced down his own throat.
>>126732741
SC really doesn't feel as compartmentalized as ED. Playing ED I feel like I'm going from room to room.
>>126733024
https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter/releases
Small resolution and low bitrate mostly
Keep in mind what is going on in the webm visually changes the size significantly
>>126733678
Thats basically because thats exactly what you're doing, anon.
Everything is a hidden loading screen other than flying about in local space. Even moving to the moon rover bullshit thing is a loading screen.
if my i5 4790k isn't causing freezing every 10 seconds then could it be the SSD (corsair brand)?
I have 16gb DDR3 and an 8gb R9 390
>>126734454
4690k i mean
>>126734454
My game runs way better on a SSD. It could be your i5 or it could be a combination of parts. The devs said they haven't optimized all the hardware combinations so I would hold on till we get further into development.
>>126733773
>https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter/releases
>Update: as you might have noticed, development is dead. If you're looking for subtitle support, try nixxquality's fork.
https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter
>>126730694
>We are drawn towards the familiar, it is safe, reliable
What would be the smallest thing you'd be okay with when it comes to hidden loading screens? For me it would be solar systemsbecause they basically proven already that they can make something huge like a planet orbit without problems and the abysmal distance between two solar systems might be too much for 64 bit
>>126738713
>smallest thing
please define further
and no shit, of course the distance between two systems would be too much
>>126737000
>Don't run ffmpeg.exe you retard, run WebMConverter.exe.
>And I shouldn't have to tell you to extract the zip file first.
I like these instructions more.
>>126738713
Well we already have jump points which will function as discrete loading screens, so that isn't even an issue.
Are planets and moons static or will they have an orbit?
Slightly bigger P72 archimedes with better shields and a quantum jump drive when
>>126723081
>>126722216
>>126722182
>>126722098
Say a port is 175,000 kilometers away. Cruising at 1125 m/s, that would be 4 hours and 15 minutes.
If you're dumb enough to run out of fuel, and you don't feel like killing yourself to respawn, going afk for 4 hours and returning to your computer 4 minutes before you arrive at port seems like a hefty punishment for being bad at the game. I don't think they'd risk scaring off casuals with a mechanism like that. So what is the alternative?
Is the larger tarantula just a straight upgrade on the smaller one?
>>126740124
not decided yet
>>126740483
>Say a port is 175,000 kilometers away.
Thats extremely close. Port Olisar to Cry-Astro service is 130313200km away.
>>126740586
Currently its worse, but honestly if you need an upgrade from the S2 you really just need to git fukken gud. You do anyway for needing Tarantulas anyway.
>>126740585
Actually smaller than the Archimedes
I've got an avenger stalker, and I'm getting BTFO by even just pirates. I get blown up in just a handful of shots, yet the Pirates seem to take about 15 or more direct hits. What am I doing wrong?
>>126740802
Just wondering which I should put on my size 3 mount, but thanks. Never used a tarantula before.
>>126740802
Oh my mistake. I thought they were much closer than that. I'm going by memory, and I guess my memory is shit.
>>126740124
They're trying to but will see. Having all those cords moving for the server to track would be difficult. Honestly they could probably fake it.
>>126740483
Self destruct.
It's a bretty good mechanic that isn't too hardcore.
Normal fuel for cruise and combat speed would be too much
>>126741034
>Get stranded
>just blow yourself up and everything is fixed
My immersion is ruined just thinking about it.
>>126740483
Turn on your transponder saying you fucked up, then either players or NPCs come to sell you fuel
>>126740483
>So what is the alternative?
Put up a job to deliver fuel and pay inflated prices. That makes too much sense apparently.
>>126740802
Ha I just looked up the stats, the reason the tarantula is so powerful is just a decimal point in the wrong place in its "heat to cool" ratio, it's 15 as opposed to 1.5.
>>126740585
Worse armed and not as cool looking
>>126741378
>>126741414
tfw Starfarer owner
>>126740802
>Port Olisar to Cry-Astro service is 130313200km away.
Sounds like bullshit, that's twice the distance from Earth to Mars.
>>126741485
Yeah but then some transponder signals will be pirate traps
>>126741451
They have an XML rip for 2.X yet? I only have the 1.3 one
>>126741510
Pic Related, m8. Should pay attention to the significance of 64 bit and why CIG was making a big deal out of it.
>>126741697
Apparently not that much is changed.
>>126741697
No k in km there
>>126741697
Should pay attention to the fact that 2.0 only plays in the orbit of a single planet.
Also that's meters, not kilometers. Retard.
>>126741978
To be fair, its a very close object in comparison to a system
>>126740124
>>126741978
>>126741885
Top lel
>>126732741
What about cooperative loading screens like in Destiny (so I heard, never played this shit)?
>>126742585
The game doesn't need loading screens, nor is there a point to them.
Why are you wanting this, exactly?
>>126740124
Originally they said static but are open to the possibility of actual movement.
Wouldn't really add that much to the game though to give them orbits.
>>126743846
>Wouldn't really add that much to the game though to give them orbits.
Is that some sort of joke, anon
Microtech->Arccorp could be a short hop or a trek across most of the system depending on where the planets are you silly shit
>>126740817
Have you switched our the emp guns on the wings for real weapons?
>>126743180
I was more asking if this is a way to "cheat" around, just to make sure it's not a viable way to explain here.
>>126744021
Which would still not add noticeably to the functionality of the game, becasue those relative distances only change very, very slowly.
>>126744107
>>126740817
Yeah the thing is a glass cannon, upgrade the S2s to tarantulas, the S3 is probably fine as is but I don't really know how much damage it does.
The avenger can use an S3 shield but comes with an S2, so working to upgrade that would also be a very good idea, get the direct fire shield not the splash one
I don't know anything about missiles
Honestly I didnt realize the avenger was so heavily armed, kind of feel bad about melting it now.
>>126744512
The scale of the system isn't 1:1, the orbit change doesn't have to be 1:1 either.
It would be interesting to add to the ebb/flow of the economy of the area, avoiding some runs that are great forever
>>126744021
That's a change I didn't really think of, but it would not add any new major gameplay elements. I doubt players would time their take offs to optimise planetary alignments.
Fuck you /scg/, you made me buy a Delta.
>>126745816
It's honestly a lot of fun with an s2 shield and cannons
Should I upgrade to a Reliant?
>>126746007
Downsides - you really cant get into it unless its landed, the interior is really ugly, the gauges look like they are stickers and the HUD clips with the dash
>>126746450
From what? What other ships do you have?
>>126745816
>paying to win with a ship in a temporary state
>>126745816
The Delta is surprisingly chill. I wouldn't buy one, but I enjoyed renting it.
>>126746450
I've got a whaleish amount of ships and it's my starter hauler until I can afford fuel and upkeep for the others
>>126746609
Mustang Alpha. It's all I've got.
>>126746707
Delta is good but it's not that good
It aint no hornet or connie
>>126746450
I don't see the point of a Reliant, what does it offer that's better than the other starter ships in exchange for the absurdly huge cross-section that makes you a bullseye for enemy fire?
>>126747416
It'll be nerfed either way
>>126747476
Only starter class two person craft and 3X the cargo
>>126747524
I'm not worried about it to be honest
It's flown pretty comfortably under the radar
>>126747872
If you want a focus on cargo why not go Hull A
>>126747476
>>126747872
Its not a starter, though. Its $60 standalone for the base hauler version, some more than $100.
That puts it on the same level as an Avenger.
>>126748081
>Not loving best companies
I think /scg/ just loves anything that is a thorn in the hornet's side to be honest.
>>126747476
30 cargo, 2 man crew, easy EVA and boarding, looks cool as fuck.
>>126748113
Because if I really wanted a cheap ship that needs an escort I'd get the Hull B.
>>126747476
Community voted for it.
>I want a two seater starter ship so I can fly with my frend.
>>126744628
The Avenger 's stock shield is a S3 and its actually not bad. Plus you can't change the shield anyway at the moment
>>126748217
It's been stated that it's a tier 2 starter ship. Whatever the fuck that means. Personally I wish they would have stayed with the whole Glorious Motherland fugly and functional ascetic instead of the flipperoo bullshit.
>>126748373
I really hope the Saber makes the Hornet sweat.
>>126749329
Hornet runs real hot, I imagine anything with a decent missile load is going to be able to counter it to a reasonable degree, depending on Hornet pilot skill level.
When I was dicking around in my Gladiator, Hornets / Cutlasses were preferred targets.
testan
>>126750215
Lower your resolution, increase your bitrate.
Limit is 3MB, not 2MB.
Are there any organisations here?Any as autistic as >>126667284 ?
>>126744021
All those wasted resources, time, and money to make it less expensive ingame to travel between planets a few times a year.
>>126750659Don't even bother looking here, all the orgs are full of drama.
>>126750968
There are thing far more wasteful than planetary orbits that change the economy of a system that are planned features, anon.
>a few times a year.
Like I said, doesn't have to be 1:1, or even close. Not like in-game time will be.
>>126751186
Superior option - wait for release
>>126751864The chance of finding an org with no drama here is 0%, at least out there it's probably 0.001%
>>126750336
oops
>>126717710
I'm one of the anons from earlier mentioning a Hull E, it's because people I talk to every day already have Starfarers.
And I already got smaller more reliable solo haulers and other job ships.
>>126749329
A shame it will probably make the gladius worthless though
>>126754339
No it won't.
>>126754352
>look at KWA earlier
>want to join
>don't want to fill in application form
>>126754903
That's mainly to filter out shitters who can't read and follow basic instructions.We don't even ask for much.
If writing a blurb about yourself and posting your steam is too much effort then I'm sorry, anon.
>>126755390
Anything I write is going to be a lie anyway, anon.>using Steam
>>126751186What was the org from the Warframe general warbros, or are they merged/gone?
>>126755818
>says application forms are to filter out shitters that can't read
>calls it "her Majesty's Navy"
>when you have an Emperor
>>126754903
>>want to join
You must have severe mental disabilities
>>126756352
What else do you expect from manchildren?
>>126756418
aaaand here comes the shitposting. it was going so well too.
>>126754339
The Gladius is the babby saber for people who don't want to spend 170 dollars.
>>126757242
The fact that a 90 dollar ship has turned into a quasi starter is rather annoying.
>>126757242
>>126757802
Is everyone taking the little fluff about the Sabre out-turning a heavy fighter as an indicator its going to be zippy like the Gladius?
Because thats not a logical step.
>>126756352
Wow rude as HECK dude.
Check your privilege next time.
>>126756418
This is the external drama mentioned earlier by the way.
Success breeds jealousy.
>>126758090
The Sabre is unlikely to be as maneuverable as the Gladius, and it's also a much bigger target.
I think the Gladius will continue to have a place, and be a good fighter, once they get the current thruster issues in 2.0 sorted.
>>126758253
>>126758441
>sweaters
Fuckin weebshitlords, those are hoodies. not sweaters.
>>126758441
That's called a hoodie, desu senpai
>>126758253
>Drake
>Terrapin
>>126758751
You should delete those posts too :^)
>>126717314
>he bought an i5
I bet you have 8GB of RAM too, you fag.
>>126758090
I just dont think there's any real reason to think it'll handle any worse
it weighs 2000 kg more sure but has tr2 thrusters to the gladius's tr1
>>126759153
Firstly, they're going to be low thrust because they're super low-sig.
Secondly, nobody gives a shit about the stats page weight. Its wrong for almost all ships.
>>126759310
We have no reason to assume they will be some form of low sign maneuvering thrusters, the phantom has standard thrusters
Just like we have no reason to assume it'll handle worse than a gladius.
It's all speculation until the ship is flyable.
>>126759354
I'm just doing my duty of combating heresy wherever it pops up.
>>126759310
>low sig means low thrust
Meanwhile, the hornet ghost's low sig engine makes it go 15m/s faster than a normal hornet.
>>126759565
I meant ghost hornet
>>126759565
If you mean the Hornet Ghost, thats because its not actually a stealth ship so much as a lower-sig Hornet.
The reason we can assume its going to handle worse than the Gladius is because it'll invalidate it if it does, and it says nowhere that it will, just that its performance "goal" is to out-turn a heavy fighter. Thats not very fast.
>>126759694
That would be incorrect weigh calculations, just like all ships have right now, chum.
>>126759749
>>126759826
Thanks for the (you)s, KWADF.
Is playing AC pointless if I only have an Aurora?
>>126759792
You mean to tell me they'd go through all of the trouble of changing to a low sig drive, adding void armor, and they didn't think to change the maneuvering thrusters?
>>126760312
A well-fitted LN can hold its own.
>>126760312
>is playing AC pointless if I only have the worst ship
Yes. Swap it to a Mustang.
WHEN IS 2.1 GOING LIVE
I WANT THE FRAMERATE OF 2.0 BUT WITH THE STABILITY OF 2.1
>>126760375
Yes, actually.
All the Hornet line uses item_NameHAPR_VP_ESI_S3_Q2
>>126760312
Is it an LN?
Because the Aurora is capable of a decent sized shield and has 4 s2 mounts as well as missiles, and isn't a slouch for maneuvering, all of this makes for a perfectly capable combat ship
how to get good at star citizen
>take ship
>put as many tarantulas on it as you can
>hold e and shoot the guy
10 for the Devs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luDDJoPdMY8
Don't get excited, it's no one interesting
>>126760720
I'm skeptical there will be low sig maneuvering thrusters
We'll see
>>126760751
>>126760520
It's an MR
>>126760894
The Cutlass Black has them.
Stop being a retard.
>>126761010
Lol okay, and the stealthiest ship in the game currently doesn't.
Is there any way to change my hangar without buying a completely new ship?
Also, is the Archimedes worth upgrading to over the Aurora MR?
>>126761304
Actually the Hornet Ghost is like a fucking Christmas tree, because guess what
Its still a Hornet
>>126760580
Sometime in the New Year.
>>126761353
Archimedes is a parasite fighter; it doesn't have jump engines.
>>126761353
You can upgrade ships
Upgrading to the LN, the Avenger, or the Delta mustang would all be good choices.
>>126744628
Im a retard, but how do I acquire additional weapons?
>>126762729
Public arena and swarm games give you REC which can be spent to rent equipment/ships here
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/electronic-access
>>126762237
I believe they mentioned they were coming in some of the recent updates so it shoudn't be much longer.
>>126762643
I'm not sure myself to be honest. Don't think so.
>>126763074
I'll be starting off in my Gladius and working my way up from there probably.
>>126763074
If the game isn't fucked, you'll need to have a budget in place to take out bigger ships
do you think the m50 will go on sale again? I hate the current 300i buy maybe the rework will make it less worthless.
>>126761304
The Hornet Ghost still gets the job done, though. During Missile Commander, it was the best Hornet.
>>126764148
Its for sale now anon, and is the last day it will be on sale I believe.
>>126764148
It's on sale right now senpai
>>126764148
It's on sale now, but why would you want one? I'd rather try to upgrade the 300i into something better.
>>126762638
But the Aurora handles like shit so its either Avenger or Delta.
>>126764709
I've encountered pretty competent Aurora pilots, if you don't want to spend 65 dollars on a delta or avenger having an Aurora isn't going to fuck you
If you really want to know which to get, rent each ship and see how you like them
As frustrating as it is to say this is the last day the delta will be for sale as well
>tfw RSI has perfected milking people for money by making everything limited
>>126765078
The Mustang Delta is at $65.
How much does it normally cost?
>>126764709
I play a lot of Arena Commander. I'm in like the top 1% of all AC pilots for total playtime over all the patches.
The Aurora is actually good. The LN is going to be fucking badass as a cheap starter ship in the PU. Point blank.
It's tiny, it's incredibly durable, it's got decent firepower, and it will have better cargo capacity than any fighter. It's fucking good.
Downsides: no ejection seat, looks stupid, flight takes a little getting used to. That's it.
>>126765367
65, I mean it wont be buyable by tomorrow.
>>126765398
So I should rather up my Aurora MR to LN instead of upping to an Avenger or Delta?
>>126765398
>I'm in like the top 1% of all AC pilots for total playtime over all the patches.
Thats nothing to brag about when out of everyone that logs on to AC there are less than 100 that play it regularly. I played 2 matches one patch and made it to that list of top 100 pilots.
>>126765670
It's personal preference. You can rent them all with REC, so I recommend you try that and see what you like best.
I like the Mustang Delta a lot, honestly, but I'm a Hornet Fag, and I'll tell you straight up that I'd rather face a Delta than an LN, assuming a competent pilot in either ship.
>>126765847
Why would you rather face a Delta than a LN? In what way is the Delta easier to defeat than a LN?
>>126766119
The delta is physically a larger target and dies a little faster. Not the anon you replied to.
>>126766119
I'm the fag you replied to, and it's very simple: The Delta is much easier to hit (cross-section dorsal/ventral particularly) and much more fragile.
The Aurora is incredibly durable and also has a tiny ass profile. IMO it's the hardest ship to take out, even if it's not the most dangerous. The LN has more firepower than the other Auroras, making it an annoying foe.
>we will never get a freelancer you can actually fucking see out of.
>>126767054
Why not make the front 50% of the freelancer transparent?
>>126765479
Sales don't decrease prices, they only make limited ships purchasable which you usually can't buy.
>>126768298
It would look pretty ridiculous from the outside.
>>126768298
>Why not make the freelancer an RSI ship?
That is not even the point.
If it was apure hauler, the airliner view and DASHBOARD would be fine.
But it's not. In fact, it's supposed to be the least hauler-ey of the bigger MISC ships.
>>126769709
The freelancer looks more like a ship you only want to fly in 3rd person because of how bad the view is.
And this comes from a faggot who only play in first person view.
>>126767054
But thats pretty mediocre, anon.
Adds loads of visibility up top where you will never be looking 99% of time, but adds no lower visibility for use while landing or fightan.
Its just like the Merlin; half the time you're just following a pip, because your target is obscured entirely by the front of the ship, or in the Freelancer's case, the 40 miles of dashboard.
>>126770097
What are you even talking about?
>>126766119
That's what I said anon
>>126770409
>>126770097
On a scale of 1 to KWA
How butt hurt are you?
>>126770556
Theres no asset leak in there, faglord.
>have a Herald
>really really really want a P-72 for looking swank in
I kinda want to get it in the actual game, but I don't know if it's gonna have some retarded limited edition thing, or if I'll need to straight up buy a phoenix to get one
send helpalso im poor so I really don't feel like spending the shekels if I don't have to
>>126770891
If you have to spend the shekels the game clearly isn't worth it
>>126770097
Now link the SA forums lel
>>126771392
:^)
>>126770003
There have been at least four easy fixes for the abysmal view posted here in the past few days, it's not hard to fix.
>>126770097
Wow, you guys must have had a very dismal christmas resorting to shitposting like this, lmfao.
>>126772417
Philips 4065UC
>>126770891
Just wait for the game, anon. I'm sitting on a pooroora ffs.
>>126767054
>he wants giant windows on his Smuggler/Bounty Hunter/Gun Runner Space Tank/Truck
>he could plaster the interior with screens instead
step it up
>>126772368
>inbred autistic pedophile weeaboos
>having any sort of christmas celebration outside of their rooms
you give them way too much credit, and attention for that matter.
>>126773039
No, just those that constantly wank to 12 year old 2d girls and shit like that.
>>126773202
That would be most of them, anon
>>126773441
Oh well.
>>126640597
Do they ever take user created ships besides that one competition?
So is this game not a scam now or like are they still taking people's money and shitting out half-assed space garages?
>>126773726
People post them, but unlikely. No mention of it whatsoever other than a "Maybe, we'll look into it" tossed in somewhere in some video.
>>126773852
>It isn't real therefore I'm not a degenerate
>>126773906
You mean other than the fucking kickstarter
>Allowing user generated content is a key design goal
>Our modding tools will allow players to design new ships for both submission to the persistent RSI ship dealer network or to build custom ships and items for the self-hosted multiplayer mode.
>>126773906
fuck senpai.
I really like making 3D models of starships and I'm pretty ok at it.
I was thinking about making my own game but SC is shaping up to be everything I wanted it to be.
Any of you guys go a ship design that you'd like to be made? I might start now.
>>126774160
What this anon said >>126774041 your best bet is to wait until CIG have an actual game "released" and modding tools are out for you to fiddle with them so you can craft your shit to Chris Roberts's autism spectrum for him to acknowledge and approve.
>>126774275
The 'mod tools' will just be a minorly tweaked CryEngine SDK. TNGS managed it fine without any of that shit, modelanon can too.
>>126774275
so it's going to be like Lego creator shit and not actual 3d models?
>>126773859
It evolved to half assed space stations, races and dogfights, still a couple of years to go
>>126774498
Anon.. come on now.
It'll just be importing models into their custom version of CryEngine.
If you want to make a model, do so. None of that is going to get invalidated. Just don't expect them to take more on for quite a while.
>>126774614
>half assed space stations, races, and dogfights
needs to be the title of the general imo.
>>126774754
You'll grow up eventually.
>>126774754
Weebshit AND awful opinions? Why are you perpetuating the stereotype
it harms your fellow 250lb man
>>126774754
>Hope they reject most of them, and also hope that private servers never happen. There needs to be lots of carebears forced to play with the rest of the community and not be given safe spaces.
Good luck hosting private servers for more than 10 people to play on them without crashing or lagging like hell without a proper fucking networking slave to run that shit.also stop fucking acting like a manchild and keep your spergweebshit to yourself.
>>126774614
>>126774736
The races and dogfighting are pretty solid desu, and completely overlooks the persistent universe, regardless of how bare bones it is.
>>126775151
you got btfo tbqh familia.
sort of impressed with the general for not letting cucks in.
usually vidya generals are unbearable.
>>126774160Can we see some things you've made? Genuinely curious.
A ship that's 90 - 80m that's sort of like a step down from the corvette. A mainly patrol ship with 2 heavy weapons (The heaviest being on the top front-ish) and then a slightly less powerful turret on the bottom rear, and then some regular turrets with S2s about the hull. I guess it's close the Anvil Hurricane idea, but with 2 larger turrets. Pic related is sort of what gave me this idea, but since I'm going into 3D animation I may never get the chance to make it since animation takes FUCKING FOREVER.
I'm into military progression. From Fast Attack craft (this) to corvette to frigate to destroyer. I love it.
Seriously hope in the release it'll be possible to discover shit like picrelated
>>126775151
Why do you always post the same retarded shit? Get the fuck out if you don't like it here.
>>126775463
Art thou flustered, brethren?
>>126775792
Your expectations are too high. You will most likely be disappointed.
>>126775342
Trying to find the baked photo of the unfinished shit I made.
I was helping some cuck from a /v/ thread make some shitty game when he decided he didnt like the way I modeled.
Never trust euros.
>>126775792
They're going to have creepy critters, if those get into a Vanduul carrier or something that's about as close as you'll get
>>126776041
You don't have any renders of your assets? What do you model with?
>helping /v/ make a game
You already fucked up by going there in the first place.
>>126775950
>>126776215
Well, they at lest should let me touch some weird alien shit.
>>126775792
>>126776390
geisto pls stop
>>126775463
>/pol/ was a good thing
lmao
>>126776249
Ive been modeling since I was 12 with Gmax making jedi acedemy stuff. i switched to autodesk 3ds max for a while. then I made SL stuff in blender for my friends, though i dont really play.
its only partially textured and not diffuse mapped so excuse the mess.
>>126777064
>jedi academy stuff
>your model thing looks better than what I expected
Follow your dreams, anon. Design that ship.
>>126777153
/vg/ should have submitted a ship for TNGS
>>126777064
Holy shit that's pretty good, does it have any kind of rigging? What's your largest scale model? I must see.
>>126777153
Fucking this. Fuck everyone here, make your ship for SC. I would gladly support something like that, unlike most here. You have talent bro. I also think there's some 3D modeling section on RSI, not quite sure though.
>>126777403
if such a thing could've happened it would make my hatred of the Redeemer much less justifiedand extreme amounts of drama over the design, like everything else
>>126777680
weird, I was thinking of the Shimapan guy
>>126776476
Don't you want to stick your finger in it?
>>126777483
they said they didnt want rigging on it lol.
but it would be pretty simple to hook up from a custom skeleton. I'm an engineering student so the last time I've modeled something large scale was a while ago and sadly i've wiped my hard drive since then. I usually make weapons but I really like making aircraft, too. Starships are always something I wanted to try.
>>126777680
oh jeez
was that in regards to /scg/ or one of the rsi forum threads?
>>126777917
no, I saw what happens. Only with a flame thrower am i going near it.
>>126778019
>hey dude, I'm making a game! Create some assets
>I don't like your modeling
>No, no, I don't want it rigged either
I would've quit right there. The rigging is easy as well, literally a 4 piece IK rig, maybe constraints to make the animator's life a bit easier. What could I expect of /v/ anyway.
>weapons
fucking post it, friend.
What ideas did you have for an SC ship?
Is PTU anymore optimized than Live? I can walk up to my ship in the sample system but when I get in I bottleneck hard. Or where is this file that the pastebin says you can manually change graphics settings?
>>126778639
here's a vikhr
i made this a few years ago before I knew about gradient face shading so all of this is flat.
>What ideas did you have for an SC ship?
not sure. I need a solid design before I get started definitely. The standard first or third angle draft would be top dog shit, makes modeling really easy.
>>126779351
PTU: Zero crashes. None. Framerate is awful, though. Server issue.
>>126779597
>Blender
My nigger. I was using it earlier today for animation lol.
Instead of jumping all the way to an SC ship, why not make a ship gun lineup? They're certainly easier to make and the animations are simple. That seems more logical as a first step into SC fuckery.
>>126780549
Ship guns all sort of bubble down to the same shit though.
I would just want to make a GAU-8 clone and thats really all I could think of.
The first episode of next great starship was all this jerk off over the same gatling design and it was just fucking awful.
ship design is all about that A E S T H E T I C
>>126781240
Ships seem like a bit too much for a first project though. If you really don't care, make a small mining ship, something that's like 50 meters. Probably RSI. That would be cool I guess, but I don't even know if it would get into SC at all.
>ship design is all about that aesthetic
Considering you're a 3D modeler/ engineering student, I find it strange you don't abide by "form follows function".
>>126782628
not him but 3D modelling is more of art than it is engineering
>>126783248
That is true like pic related (all in Zbrush by one dude) but that doesn't apply as much when you're trying to do something that is mechanical, like a gun or high-poly vehicle like a train. It all needs to make sense, and most SC ships follow that. Making something look cool and THEN trying to make it functional almost always leads to disaster farther down the line.
>>126782628
the project wouldnt be interesting if it wasnt ambitious you know?
>>126783248
this guy is right though, CAD is used for engineering and its a very strict and bound program where 3D modeling is free flow.
I do like functional ships a lot but they have their place just like purely aesthetic ships do.
D-did I do good?
>>126784017
It's the most capable fighter in the game so if thats what you are looking for you did good
>>126783743
Ok. As a random person on an asian oil fracking customer disservice forum, It would be pretty cool to get >>126775342 as a request. 80m is pretty ambitious. It would be cool if it was also RSI__ since they need some stuff, and look cool IMO. Not sure if a military ship would be as AESTHETIC as you want, especially fromRSI__but I think their designs are alright. I'm not going to hold you up to it since I'm merely an anon, and you have the tallent of 3D modeling, but I would cream myself if it came true.
Pic related is a fantastic ship design from Dreadnought that I think looks RSI. I especially like the armor design with slightly exposed mechanical parts.
>>126784635
Yeah that shit looks good.
The weapons are pretty tacky though.
Your post reminded me of this tacky thing that there are two turret mounted guns on.
Favorite ship has to be the Y-49 Decimator from SWG though.
>>126784017
zdebbup :-DDDDDDDDDD
>>126785296
all my hnngg. That ship looks pretty cool. Are you going to take up on the 'ambitious' request? I must know before I sleep ;_;
Pic related is more RSI-ish ship design from BASED George Hull.
>>126786221
I'll try to come up with a draft.
If you've got an idea try to make a draft too. Look up first angle or third angle projection. If you can make a drawing like that I'll definitely work on it.
>>126784330
Oh okay, I thought the avenger was better but ended up buying the super hornet instead
>Bought an Aurora
>apparently bought the shitty one
Oh well. What now? I've been flying about and dicking around. Can you do anything in the test alpha? Also where to submit bug reports? Don't see the menu options on the main site.
>>126788946
Bug reports is the "issue council " link in the community tab.
>>126787908
Avenger is no where near super hornet tier, an argument could be made for the gladius but its armament is just too weak really.
>>126790291
Is the superhornet better than the normal hornet? I see no great advantage.
I have an avenger. Is there a way to make the guns on the wings so that they gimbal? I feel like why would I ever have non-gimbaling weapons?
>>126791712
should be able to get a gimbal puck, but you'll be downgrading to S1
>>126790291
Ah alright too bad I can't play Star Citizen though due to my shitty rig. Can't wait to get a whole complete new one in March
>>126791712
>I feel like why would I ever have non-gimbaling weapons?
By using a Gimbal mount you degrade your weapon size by -1. It's a lot of damage you give up when doing so. BUT, if you need the gimbal just to hit the enemy, go for it.
>>126791894
>>126792804
I'm having trouble with lining up the shots. Any tips or known videos on how to git gud? I feel like I just can't get precise enough without gimbaling.
>>126790750
It comes with a turret that isnt avaible for the normal hornet yet, more armor, bigger power plant, and finally, either due to a bug or better engine components it currently goes much faster than a normal hornet.
So what happened in the thread? There's a lot of missing posts.
>>126795739
janitors holocausted the anime
>>126795739
the usual
>Shitpost
>ban evade
>whine about it
>get shot
>break law
>cops busts perp
>perp is not compliant
>gets shot
>DINDU NUFFIN
>>126796174
Oh. Good.
>>126796910
Every society, game, city or whatever has a set of rules.
Cops, hotpockets or whatever you want to call them are there to see everyone functions or plays by the rules.
Sorry you're too young to grasp this concept.
Maybe you should stop shopping at hot topic or something for anarchy patches and anime manga.
>>126796910
hotpockets are the paul blarts of moderating.
>>126797480
>the other ones are much more fun
Why are you here then? Your life must be dismal if you're resorting to argue about these issues here, teenie bopper.
>>126797852
Thanks, good riddance.
So, Is this thing worth it?
>>126798235
Nobody's going to know for at least a couple of months.
>>126798235
>$170
Nope.Seriously though I'd rather have a Hornet instead. Stealth feels meh for dogfights. If I absolutely needed to use one I'd do it in a wing, same with the Vanguard.
>>126794710
>tfw no 3-5 man drone carrier that can carry various drones for jobs ranging from combat to research to mining, salvaging and exploration.
>>126760825
>The concentrated autism in that last question.
Do we know how many fighters an Idris can hold yet? Last I heard it was 3 but that was when it was a corvette.
>>126804789
There never was a 4chin org, just groups of spergs using /v/ and /vg/ to boost their numbers.
>>126805028
This is always the right answer.
True for any group posted here really.
>>126805563
exactly fag
advertising.
>>126806890
what is this
a picture for heralds?
>>126807075
I can't find the larger one. You wouldn't happen to have it would you? I guess it doesn't matter, the important ones are clearly visible.
FUG
I thought the sale ended on the 2nd of January? I have a tana upgrade in my shopping basket but apparently its no longer on sale. Fug.
>>126796337
Cops don't shoot people for being for simply being non compliant. At least they're not supposed to. It also depends on the circumstances. You should really consider using a different analogy, moron.
>>126807697
>Cops don't shoot people for being for simply being non compliant.
Guessing your not american?
>>126807836
Grats on not reading the entire post
>>126807697
most cops also dont enjoy sexualizing animals drawn to look like kids cartoons to lure in underage victims
fucking pedo catfucker degenerates
>>126807868
Thanks.
>>126805437
There was one I think that did actually spawn from here. It was some Messer /pol/ org I think. I think it died for being too neo-nazi looking for CIGs liking.
>>126807950
IIRC the messer org was disbanded due to some internal conflict.
>>126806012
Connor, who told you that you can post?
So guise, just wondering. When you get into a car, do you start crying and throw a fit, flailing your limbs about every which way, pounding on the dash, because the dash and structural elements prevent you from seeing every direction outside the car? I know I do. Muh view.
>>126808960
No but I don't use the pitch axis in my car or try to engage in spess combat either
>>126658636
Where is this picture from??
>>126809048
That actually makes it less important as its so easy to move things into your view as you can move in any direction, plus what you are actually aiming at has a UI reticle around it you can see through your ship.
>>126809048
>no pitch or spess combat in your car
You sound like a boring person senpai tbqh baka
>>126809296
>That actually makes it less important as its so easy to move things into your view as you can move in any direction
No it doesn't.
>plus what you are actually aiming at has a UI reticle around it you can see through your ship.
Which feels like and looks like shit.
Anyway, don't care to reply to your awful opinions anymore. CIG is fixing it, doesn't matter if you have a problem with it.
>>126809384
>No it doesn't.
It literally does. It's only autistic fuckers like you that complain. Unless we are specifically talking about the Freelancer, in which case yes, that is getting fixed because they went a bit overboard with giving it a cockpit just for trading.
>>126808960
underrated post
>>126809587
You're as bad as people that /thread their own posts, faggot
>>126809725
Stay salty, autist
>>126809725
You are pretty amusingly BTFO.
Let me guess, you were one of the MIS fuckers shitposting all over the board before the PTU fix on it? Only thing I can think of that would explain this butthurt.
Aurora MR or Mustang Alpha?
we back
>>126810851
lel I just assumed the thread died
>>126810796
Just look at their variants for a role you think you'll like, then get the parts to upgrade that ship in game.
Discovery/trading for Aurora, dogfighting/racing for Mustang
>>126809451
>a cockpit just for trading
This is the part I still fail to understand.
Why do they give the MISC ship that is meant to see combat on a regular basis an airliner cockpit?
Why does a ship that is meant to expllore new places get a can't-see-shit dashboard?
On one of the Hull series, sure, why not.
But on the Freelancer it just comes across as a designer trying to show everyone that he totally can design a bad visibility cockpit a second time.
Which is hilarious, because they had to fix it on the old model, too.
>>126802503
I would but that
Maybe I should stop... I feel like I'm going a bit overboard to be honest. 10% of my paycheck is regularly going into Star Citizen, every month.
It's fucking lame though, every time they put out a concept I feel I *have* to have it. The ships are so amazing. The only ones I regret buying are the Freelancers. They look cool from the inside but the cockpit is terrible.
I wanted to go for three of each base ship (with at least one of each variant) before the game reaches Beta, but maybe I should give up? Maybe I shouldn't? What's wrong with me, guys?
>>126798235
None of these things are worth itBut I bought it and time will tell, aegis has a pretty good track record so far
>>126813884
Compulsive mentality, and a lack of goal-oriented self control.
>>126813930
I don't think it's a problem with self control, I have set aside an amount of money to spend on it and I can do it without it impacting other aspects of my life.
And it's not compulsive, I just legitimately want it. It's like a hobby - if I was collecting figures or other stuff it wouldn't be weird. I'm not one of those crazies on the official forums.
>>126813884
Buying ships is a pretty stupid thing to do, part of the game is trading and working enough to buy the ships you want.
>>126814037
It seems like you should remove your credit card from the website and simply say enough is enough
nearly 15,000 dollars in virtual ships, at this point if anything comes out you can just trade some of your current ships for it
>>126813884
Just get them in gam-
Oh this is a bait post
>>126814131
>>126814182
Ugh... I'll give it some thought I suppose. Thanks, guys.
>>126811237
Can you upgrade in the current alpha2.0/2.1 ?
Can you sell your original ship?
Do credits even do anythign yet?
>>126814498
>Just get them in game
The whole point is collecting them and having them in my Hangar. I'll probably play the game with an Aurora so I can play the progression as intended.
>>126814540
You can kind of upgrade some ships
I took my delta mustang from an S1 shield to an s2 and replaced all the weapons, but not all ships can have their shields removed
REC are credits you earn in AC, and can be spent on renting weapons, shields, and ships.
You can "Melt" your original ship for store credits, however melting it means melting everything in the pack, so if the pack includes your copy of the game and you melt it, you will no longer being able to play
You can "Upgrade" your ship to a more expensive or equally priced ship, the original price of the ship will be deducted from the cost of the ship you are buying and you can do this without losing your game pack
>>126814710
>scroll bar same size
Now you fucked up
>>126814710
Is the glaive any good
it seems like any time i encounter vanduul ships they get shit on
>>126814930
No it's broken right now, tokyo drifts fucking everywhere
>>126814998
All the ships drift right now, ship mass is fucked right now
>>126814710
https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1496153&page=28
Reverse image searching is hard
>>126815067
Not like the Glaive though
>>126814710
Did you finally stop posting anime images and move onto actual SC related bait then.
>>126814710
Not me. You tried, though.
>>126815260
Post yours then nigger
>>126652791
>Low and slow
>Ever relevant in any modern warfare ever
Yeah enjoy getting your ass lit up by any sheepfucker that has a MANPADS or any AAA/AA in the area.
These planes might be relevant against some hilbillies that don't even have Igla's but the US Army, Chinese Army and Russian army are gearing up for a fight against proper states, not counter-terrorism.
The US will never be in another land war against insurgency, NATO countries won't go into an Afghan style conflict any more, they know the next big fight is when China wants to flex their muscles in the Pacific and in North Africa/Middle East.
>>126815605
I agree with your post anon but as I dont think anyone is using much air support on people living in the hills of Appalachia, the term hillbilly isn't very apt
sand people might be a better choice
Can you currently unlock ships in game?
>>126817676
Permanently? No, but you can rent ships with in game currency.
>>126817676
Nein
>>126817840
>>126817842
Thanks!
I just bought the Aurora MR to LN ship upgrade for about 22 hours ago, and still my hangar shows my old MR.
When will it be switched for the LN?
>>126818430
...When you apply it.
>>126818430
It's in your account on the site
>>126818561
>>126818584
Ah thanks! Haven't done this before.
Here, have some ass.
So what is it about the Aurora that people are recommending it versus the Mustang or something close in price?
>>126819145
The Aurora LN has pretty beefy weaponry, it's a decent little fighter.
>>126819145
They told me the LN is a better dogfighter because it's a smaller target than a Mustang which makes it harder to hit. Thats all.
I also noticed that the LN does not have a gimball turret which my MR had. I'll miss it. :/
>>126819524
You can put gimbals (different things to turrets) on hardpoints that are larger than size 1, what it does is move the size down by one.
>>126819524
Gimbal is garbo
ctrl G, thats what I do every time I get in my mustang
>>126819760
It also makes you a filthy shitter
Is it true that there will be a 5th ship wave with the spacebike?
>>126819840
That too. I fly with a HOTAS so I never use them.
>>126820028
Anything is possible but I think they've got enough sense to focus on the ships they've already revealed and not add any more until they're done
>>126820028
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14295-Letter-From-The-Chairman
Drake Dragonfly
>>126820028
No, they specifically said that the retarded spacebike was 'difficult to implement'
Just stop being retarded and start asking for a good additional starter ship that makes actual sense, like a mining starter.
>>126820028
Well it was Ship Shape's personal shipfu, so it looked like it would've been made when she was there, but apparently Chris and some others really like the idea too, so it probably will get made down the line.
>>126820617
>still being this butthurt that your pick for a starter no-one else wanted and everyone has forgotten by now but you
They just said there were some design questions that needed to be answered
It's not a question of if the ship makes sense or even if it would help the game at all, it's just up to the people in charge which ships they want to be made
>>126820617
Everyone wants Dragonfly and Terrapin enough for them to be made imqho
>>126820028
They don't think it will make sense to have an open cockpit ship that goes through quantum drive. And it's too small to actually hold a quantum drive probably
>>126821243
>open cockpit
Isn't in the description at all
It would be a slightly bigger Merlin that can QD and jump. Or an M50 with less bulk.
>>126820512
>>126820617
>>126820728
>>126821243
I just asked because I saw this threadhttps://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/267404/wave-5-confirmed-concept-ships-new-ideas-poll-800-votes#latest
And they were saying that a 5th wave got confirmed and such things about even some ships being confirmed in it.
Am I correct in thinking that, the only way to currently permenantly upgrade a ship is through spending real money on upgrades?
But there will ultimately be a UEC currency upgrade / ship purchase system?
Is the game actually fun enough in its current state?
I want to buy in, I really do, but i'm poor and there is no way I can justifying spending beyond a starter pack
>>126821243
It could still have something like a glass bubble surrounding you and still have the "minimal hull, space motorbike" aesthetic.
>>126821445
>Posted: June 10
A lot has changed since then.
>>126821528
Then get a starter pack and play AC to get more ships to try out in AC?
>>126821528
Everything besides the odd cosmetic will be earn-able in game, including the variants
>>126821528
Why not just buy the game and then play it when it has something a little more substantial to play
You know, like any other goddamn game
>>126821420
>Isn't in the description at all
developers seem to be thinking about it exactly like I just said
https://youtu.be/luDDJoPdMY8?t=7m57s
>>126821528
The game is just alpha at the moment.
In the actual released game you will be able to purchase ships with insurance with in game money, yeah. Right now they only have permanent purchases available with real money to make earning ships part of playing the game, to keep people testing etc.
>>126821827
Neither of those guys are involved in ship design or production. All they say is that an open cockpit wouldn't work for quantum travel.
Dragonfly would be parasitic anyway, like a run around for when explorers are planetside or to go from city to station
Or some SHIT
>>126822241
I can't see myself ever flying one, but they would be fun things to shoot down, just imagine a special Caterpillar module that releases a swarm of them
>>126822241
It could be as ship where you sit outside to gain room for other components, it takes less room to straddle on the ship than sit comfortably in an airtight cockpit.
Are purchases with REC and UEC account-permenant? or seeing as it's alpha will be there be a reset at beta?
>>126823541
Both are permanent. REC is only for Arena Commander, which is basically already released
>>126823541
REC is transatory and meaningless. Its not even 'real'
UEC is permanent.
>>126823615
>REC is transatory and meaningless. Its not even 'real'
Wrong on pretty much every account. REC is the currency for Arena Commander (and maybe Star Marine?), which is a game in and of itself. Just because everything it can purchase is just renting, doesn't make REC transitory.
>>126823596
>>126823615
Cool, thanks.
Also: can you actually earn UEC at the moment?
>>126823875
No, only from purchasing game packages or directly buying UEC.
>>126823875
You can't earn UEC, no. You probably will only be able to do that after release, considering UEC can even be spent on things with LTI for the game proper.
Arena Commander is an in-universe computer game we can already access.
Does the civilian hornet not come with homing missiles?
>>126824385
It has racks but you have to buy the missiles separate I believe
>>126824385
it comes with Marksman 1s IIRC
>tfw supercruise drift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqXeK6mGGnw
>>126827193
what ended up happening to that hornet
>>126827869
>>126827193
>using broken glitched out guns
>>126827953
He was also using the guns on rocket mount glitch
>>126828176
>implying that makes it any better
>>126828176
wait you can do that on hornets too?
I thought it was just the Delta?
>>126827953
>>126828176
>>126828246
I am using the best weapons in the game, absolutely, I am a complete shitter but good god the fun is immense
Also RSI's laziness isn't a "glitch"
>>126828246
Fuck I misread, I thought >>126828176 was the webm shitter defending himself by saying what the Hornet was using.
>>126828704
It's a misplaced decimal point in the gun's defines. Covering your ship with tarantulas in this patch is practically an exploit
Pretty explosion though.
>>126829013
Never said the Tarantula's werent bugged anon.
I said replacing the rocket pods with guns isn't a bug.
RSI could make the pods unremovable, but they know doing that would make the delta mediocre
>>126827953
>>126828176
>hornet pilots
>>126829496350R
>>126829496
Hornet shitters are exactly the kind of cunts that would see no problem with monoboating tarantulas. They tend to come in hand hand, those two.
>>126829496
I'm the opposite kind of shitter to those Hornetcunts
The only time I've ever really flown a meta ship was the m50 before its many nerfs and thats just because I'm an A-Wingfag.
>>126829575
>I should gimp myself because some guy on the internet is mad
Maybe you shouldn't attack a mustang with 4 tarantulas then anon
>>126829747
I just have generally been avoiding PvP Arena Commander modes in the last few patches, until they get some vague kind of balance back.
>>126829926
Well that's fine, I just don't see the point it getting upset at me when I only act defensivelyUnless there is a clearly uneven fight then I usually attack the stronger ship
>>126814835
>but not all ships can have their shields removed
yeah, that's apparently because CIG got lazy with the Constellation and Retaliator and gave them crazy high powered S3 filler shields for now, since they're planning on massively overhauling the shield system soon.
But that meant they had to also remove the ability for half the ships in the game to change their shields rather than risk someone putting a connie shield in a Hornet and being nearly immortal.
>>126819145
the mustang is crazy fragile, the Aurora LN has more weapons than any mustang besides the Delta. And currently their combat speeds only have about a 5m/s difference.
>>126831936
>LN
I'm certain I got the MR without realizing that the LN is better at the time.
>>126827097
The C comes with shitty dumbfire Spark I's
The Ghost and Super hornet come with Marksman I's
>>126832086
What's the difference?
>>126828176
>guns on rocket mount glitch
that's not a glitch anymore, CIG decided to make it a feature a few patches ago after everyone begged for them to leave it in.
>>126832257
LN has a better engine and something else to do with weapons. I don't really know though, I've only just started to test it and can't really as the game refuses to run properly even with potato tier user config. So I gotta wait for some more optimization with the alpha before testing any more.
>>126832257
LN has more guns and a bigger shield
>>126832257
MR: 2x S1 Gun hard points, no missiles,
LN: 2x S1 Gun hard points 2x S2 Gun hard points, missile rack
And their packages both cost $45, so there's no damn reason to buy a MR ever.
>>126832837
I thought it was 4 s2
>>126832837
Yeah, wish I knew this at the time. Oh well. Fucked up that they would hide away this shit.
>>126832371
>>126832579
>>126832837
I swapped my Aurora MR to a Mustang Alpha a while back.
>>126833112
pretty sure you can just sidegrade to the LN cant you
>>126832927
hornetfags bitched about getting blown up by a starter ship, so CIG nerfed two of the gun mounts. Even though it was probably the overpowered missiles that were killing them, not the guns.
There's a reason why there's a meme about hornet players whining when any ship shoots them down.
>>126833308
you can CCU up to a LN for an extra 10 bucks, or you can melt the package and just buy the LN package with the 45 dollar store credit.
The problem is that the normal MR package is just fucking overpriced. The MR, LN, and Mustang packages all cost the same, yet the Aurora MR's stand alone price is just $25, while the Mustang is a $30 ship, and the LN is a $35 ship
>>126833956
>Melt the package
What is this? You're saying I can upgrade to that LN for free while still having everything the MR package gives?
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