>horribly outdated FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hr9rYACD
>Arena Commander
who gives a fuck, 2.0 is out
Download: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download
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>Jump Point Current Issue
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xtjaptgtro9w0r/source/JumpPoint_03-12_Dec-15_Refining-The-Verse.pdf
>Jump Points
http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB
>"Holiday 2015 Goyim!"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15114-MISC-Reliant-Variants
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15123-Holiday-Livestream-Ship-Gallery
Pupil to Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4 [Embed]
2.1 is out to live
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15136-Star-Citizen-Alpha-21-Available
Letter from the chairman (102mil)
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15138-Letter-From-The-Chairman
Holiday ship sale
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15126-Holiday-Ship-Sale
>Weeklys
Ten for the Chinaman: https://youtu.be/MHLwAuM1J8c
The Amazing Abent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUC2_uYohw
Around the Girth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EytSKRg8ulQ
Reverse the Worst: http://imperialnews.network/2015/12/reverse-verse-episode-74/ (nobody wants to watch that shit)
>>STABILITY CONFIG FILE<<
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>>126640843
Dunno why you are posting that to me, I think the F-35 is extremely capable (and also extremely expensive)
>>126640885
>KWA trying to be relevant
>>126640843
While I love the F-35, it's a plane that is not needed.
Especially one to replace the A-10.
>>126641378
As F18s are kind of falling out of the sky at an alarming rate, some form of naval multirole replacement is absolutely necessary yes
>>126640885
cringe
>>126641019
>Expensive
>Actually cheaper than most high-end fourth gens by a significant margin
>>126641378
>MUH A-10
Good for COIN, a literal liability for everything else.
Last post about this because off-topic and talking to /scg/ about the F-35 sounds worse than eating glass.
>>126640885
Being a normie never felt so good.
Thanks for the self esteem boost.
Launch tubes when?
>>126641998
F-35 simply isn't as effective, proven, carries as much firepower or cheaper to maintain as an A-10 in a CAS role.
You could get and maintain like 9 A-10s for every F-35.
How about sending it down to the deck when smart munitions (which isn't anything new) simply can't do the job?
haha, as if anyone would risk a ~300m jet by going that low.
It's made of tissue paper and secret stealth paint.
A warthog is what? ~12m, a flying armored box that can throw 30mm shells into the face of any enemy and shrug off small arms fire like it's nothing.
I love the F-35 but it is simply NOT a replacement for the Hog for CAS.
but no, the shiny, expensive toys is what does it for the Air Force nowadays, regardless of combat performance.
>>126642637
Stop talking
>>126640885
Bretty gud, anon.
Golf clap.
>>126642697
Can't silence the truth;
Air Force wants to replace the greatest dedicated CAS aircraft ever made with some expensive multi-role fighter which is 30x the cost and 1/5th as good in the role.
>>126642637
>Send A-10 into actual warzone with AA
>it gets decimated because fat and slow
>Send F35 into actual warzone with AA
>can get close enough to strike AA before it's detected and then jet out
The A-10 is only good at loitering in uncontested airspace and shooting at lightly armored vehicles, it's Gau 8 is just dead weight at this point and can't destroy any tank made in the last 30 years
>>126642697
>stop talking
>>126643159
>k
kek, you aren't even trying, faggot. It's ok to be wrong.
>>126643525
Please don't reply to him, its like arguing with a SJW at this point
>Playing with delta mustang
>Decouple and super cruise towards location you want to sneak up on
>cut shield, weapons, and engine if you want to be that ballsy
>float in with a sig of 130 ish and a speed of 400
I wonder if this is actually a viable tactic
>>126643938
Not really, sounds like a surefire way to make you an easy target, especially in a wet-tissue tier ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DgZKobz3w8
>>126644742
I mean on stealth ships in general.
Shields don't do much for the mustang anyways, so having them off for a second wont change anything.
Ideally they wont even realize you are there until about 2000 meters out
Does anyone have any idea what the sig of a powered down stealth hornet is?
>>126644964
>below the asteroid
That's my jam
>>126644989
Ah, that's a whole nother ballpark, and we can't really say what's viable or not until we actually get the stealth mechanics implemented properly for us to play with.
>>126644989
Powered down ships currently emit zero EM/IR, with your IR slowly rising to normal operation levels. Regardless of what ship it is.
>>126645097
I'm just going by the findings of that reddit post about a year ago, I don't really know if anything has changed.
>>126644989
According to the stats, the delta isn't much of a stealth ship anyway. It's armor reduces its cross section by 15% and that about it.
>>126645659
He deletes all shitposting from the shitposting organizations. Goodbye.
>>126645615
Sounds about right, its 130 compared to my hornet's 160 ish
>>126644989
I do know that you basicly have to be in visual range before your sensors will pick up a powered down ghost. There was one parked at the security post and i was nearly at the station rings before my freelancer finally "saw" it
>>126645615
20% CS/IR reduction (which is the actual stats) is not nothing, but yes its not a stealth ship by nature.
Is there a way of stopping a ship spinning in space? I was at Karesh and parked my shitty Aurora. Somebody else got out of his ship midair, and it just started spinning. I tried to get in it but I couldn't stop it from moving.
>>126645659
>Implying
Fuck off KWA, I'll report all of your shitty weeb posts
>>126643080
Why don't we develop a proper modern CAS instead of keeping around an outdated air frame that is falling apart. I love the A10 but I also love the B24. Some times you got to move on. In a real war with equal opposition the A10 would get side lined. We can't afford outdated aircraft in this economy.
>>126646769
I'd be all for that.
However the thinking nowadays is one expensive aircraft for many roles which just isn't the proper way of going about it.
Haven't checked up on Star Citizen in many moons. Is it fun to play yet? I heard something about "2.0"
>>126646224
>Ben "the World eater" Lesnick
Hahahaha. On a serious note though, I don't think the Connie will be ever as modular as, say, Caterpillar or Retaliator. The way it is built is already retarded as fuck. The only modular thing about it may be the docking bay for the Merlin. Loading bay seems too essential in its current form.
>>126646889
>isn't the proper way of going about it.
From reading the reports it sounds like they realize thet now but they are in too deep to go back now.
>>126647342
I used to be a big believer of "Scam Citizen" until this new patch came out, also I can't stand Elite Dangerous anymore.
>>126647694
This.
I was also in the scam citizen boat until they finally release something (somewhat) in working condition regarding the persistent universe.
Now I'm cautiously optimistic.
>>126647861
>>126647694
I cannot wait to endlessly post the same couple of videos of the full game released on /v/.
Won't even shill it, just let them eat their own fucking words
>>126647694
>tfw believer from the start
>2.0 had the opposite effect
What a strange world we live in
>>126648008
It's better to expect absolutely nothing and be pleasantly surprised, than to be hyped and let down.
See: every kickstarter
>>126647694
>>126647861
Thirded. I used to shitpost the fuck out of this general with "SCAM SHITIZEN" and other bullshit because people here get triggered, but my mind changed a few months back when they showed open world stuff.>Was on ED hyp train
>shilled it to death and gave SC the middle finger of vapor ware
>mfw E:D is quite possibly closest a game can get to vaporware and SC is finally coming together
I was so wrong...
>>126648383
>literally the only org shitposting here anymore is the weebshitters
>trying to edge themselves into /scg/ to be relevant
>WAAAH JANNY IS BULLYING ME :((((
Victim complex at it's finest, Not surprised neckbeards who pretend to be little girls have mental illnesses
Fuck off back to /grief/
>>126647734
Assuming the Aquila still gets it's custom bridge. They might try to skip it to get the variants done faster.
On the note of stealth I made a comparison of the standard hornet and the delta mustang on and off http://imgur.com/a/02RhU
TL;DR
Hornet
On: 299 EM 269 IR
Off: 155 EM 125 IR
Mustang
On: 222 EM 140 IR
Off: 135 EM 40 IR
Conclusion: Hornet is very hot
>>126648383
Fuck off weeb nigger. "EVERYBODY FEEL SORRY FOR US SHITPOSTERS"
fucking kill yourself.
>>126648529
>tfw you bought horizons
>>126648642
Neat anon, but also pretty useless while stealth is entirely unimplemented as a proper mechanic, along with active/passive sensors and all that bullshit
>>126648801
Did they remove it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/2zbyl5/stealth_signature_testing_in_arena_commander/
>>126648383
Cry more faggot.
>>126648758
> tfw you at least have a few working brain cells so you didn't buy an expansion with 2 barebone features for 60$
>>126648950
I bought it with gift money but yeah.
>>126648898
No, I'm just saying while there are the beginnings in there, the fact that current ship sensors can look in a perfect sphere around themselves and generally never have a problem seeing you before you engage, (especially because everyone is actively radiating at all times) and there aren't really any opportunities or uses for it yet makes it less useful.
>>126648758
Naw m8. I saw through their bullshit early. Also, Pupil To Planet basically RIP'ed Horizons. It's only a matter of time now.
>>126648383
Fuck off.
I'm going to upgrade my Aurora MR to another ship.
I want a ship that has at least 10 cargo capacity and is overall better than the Aurora in any way.
I'm mostly a dogfighting person but I also really like trading and exploration which is why I want at least some cargo space.
Are any of these any good?
F7C Hornet
Freelancer/Freelancer MIS?
Cutlass Black
Reliant Tana
>>126649305
You won't be able to do any of that shit for ages, just buy it with in game money.
the reliant is gonna be available at all times right? not only the sale ?
>>126649305
Just get an Avenger Titan for now instead of dumping a 100 dollars on the game. It's a cheap solid multi-purpose ship. Maybe then try the Tana when its flyable.
>some hardpoints go from heavy fixed to medium gimballed to doubled light weapons
Quad guns on turrets fucking when? I'd much prefer 4 S1s over 2 S2s. While it won't do as much damage, it would have more cover fire, increasing chance of hitting.
It's really hard waiting, guys.
How can I effectively forget about this game for 3+ months? I want to come back every once in a while and see the changes in progress now that things are speeding up a bit. I hate waiting day by day.
>>126649707
>some hardpoints go from heavy fixed to medium gimballed to doubled light weapons
Literally just the normal hardpoint system
>>126649870
I didn't imply that wasn't the case, but when will we be able to change turrets with 2 S3s to 4 S2s? Or 2 S2s to 4 S1s?
>>126649869
close the /scg/ get another game on, maybe witcher, fallout, some ass creed and lose yourself in that for a while, dont check the RSI website etcyou wont make it a day anyway
>>126649672
yoo guys?
>>126650113>you wont make it a day anyway
haha, fagfucking save me from this hell
>>126650079
When they make the appropirate mounts
>>126650359
Oh shit. The Gladiator with all rocket pods would be some horrible shit to fight against if you aren't a fighter.
>turreted S2s turn into quad S1s
>Retaliator being buffed to all S2s on turrets
>mfw top retaliator turrets can converge 12 S1 guns if the pilot knows what he's doing
I'd feel like I'm piloting a fucking Des Moines cruiser in space or something.
>Pre-christmas had a laugh looking at the goons bashing the game
>They're still doing it, the same people too
Why would you care that much about a game you want to fail?
>>126649869
There's not really too much left for them to do if you think about it. They can already randomly generate systems so they just have to fix bugs and collision detection,right?
>>126649869
I stopped checking for a year, then my rig died on me, now I can't play the Alpha, DON'T STOP.I'll finally be able to buy a new one soon if I don't have magically become broke again
>>126649869
Find something else that will take longer to come out, and wait for that instead
Like Star Wars Episode 9
>>126651267
They don't want to look at their own failures. Why are you compensating by commenting on their situation?
Tell me about your mother anon.
>>126651774
More like Fraudian
>launch game
>crash
>launch again
>go to PU
>"Unknown File Error" x3
>crash
>finally make it to Port Olisar
>undock, fly to a comm array, pop a few pirates
>EVA to reset comm array
>success
>re-enter my ship
>crash
It wasn't this bad a couple weeks ago. Are the servers fucked up or something?
>>126641019
F-35 is extremely trash considering the amount of time and money going into it.
>>126651905
I hear PTU is worth setting up
>>126652029
Your life is extremely trash considering the amount of time and money your parents put into you
>>126652029
It really isn't, it's just not a dogfighter
People have it in their brains that being a good jet means turning really well, that's not the case.
>>126651428
>>126651568
I have google chrome and just got Stayfocused and will set the timer to 4 weeks. Problem is, it doesn't work in incognito mode, which I use as a workaround when I'm desperate. How do I disable incognito?
>>126652029
You're right, but why bother telling the shills?
>>126652029
Fuck off, Sprey
>>126652029
give me a squad of a-29 every time
>>126652607
>a-29
This nigga knows whats up.
https://motherboard.vice.com/read/low-and-slow
>>126651905
Downside: they will all be killed immediately
Upside: they cost nothing so you can keep having them killed.
>>126642637
Doesn't the A-10 need a bird bath every time it fires its fuckoff gun?
>>126652029
If only people actually looked at all the side projects that have to be done to ships in order to actually field the f-35
Can you guys stop being autistic about real life ships and start being autistic about videogame ships?
>>126653094
Cover the deck because jet exhaust is hot?
>>126653270
Unlike real ships there's no argument that the hornet is the best though
muh caterpillar
The Retaliartor is extremely trash considering the amount of development time put into it and the price.
>>126653463
The Redeemer is even more trash considering the amount of time and effort they spent to setup the shitty contest
>>126653429
>getting attacked because 'hurr that's pirate ship you must be pirate'
>>126653463
Depends if it is the bane of Idris/Javelin whales or not
>>126653529
This I agree with
>>126652029
>>126653862
all true
>>126652791
Fascinating and sad.
>>126653369
3 prototype deck coverings on 2 amphibs so far, which will eventually have to go on every CVN, LHD, and LHA. As well since all of the unrep cargo stations were designed for a max load of a f-18 engine (smaller because there are two) there has to be redesigned new heavy stations on all the cargo ships (17 of them) as well each CVN, LHD, and LHA will need new receiving stations to handle the increased tension required for the weight. Also the f-35 engines are too heavy for regular ch-60s so you would have to use mh-53s which are fucking huge in comparison.
tl;dr skyrocketing costs for the support systems for an overpriced plane.
>>126654089
No shit
>>126653529
I am so annoyed they have the retaliatior going 20m/s slower than a Constellation again. They were already saying the ship was unpowered, then they decide to cut its combat speed by fucking 50.
>>126652181
>People have it in their brains that being a good jet means turning really well, that's not the case.
If they hdn't called it 'F', then people would maybe not expect this.
But leave it to the 'muh fighters' jocks to insist on everything being air-to-air, all day, every day, forever, despite the fact that the F-35 is supposed to repalce pretty much every plane that can even carry bombs.
The smart move would've been to make an A-35.
>>126654459
I mean even air to air the thing isn't a slouch, it just relies on missiles
It can lock onto something nearly 100 miles away and fire it, or fire at something behind, beside or below it
All hopefully without being detected
This disgusting pubbie response to this is "muh f4 phantom vietnams" not realizing that missile technology has advanced a huge amount
>>126654089
thats an f-18 engine, the f-35 one is a lot fucking bigger, and a shit ton heavier
>>126656141
but is it bigger and heavier than two f18 engines
>>126656304
yup
>>126656521
By how much
And how much power do they put out
I was promised Sabre autism, not this shit
>>126656615
>>126656521
>>126656304
>>126656141
>>126654948
>>126654459
Fuck off
>>126656730
found the sabre autist!
>>126656789
>>126656730
Saber*
jouster shits get out
Gimbal users leave
>>126656854
>They say zee because it rhymes in the nursery song
If you guys were responsible for game balance, how would you give the players a way to counter the hornet cost effectively?
Aegis apologists leave
>>126656730
All this shit got started because some fucker compared the Potato to a f-35
>>126657219
What the hell are you talking about
>>126656615
Shit man, I dont know I just work on ships and fix hydraulics/cranes/forklifts, I just learned all this from the fancy engineers that come here and plan this shit out.
>guy was rocking out to the national anthem with his guitar/amp, shit was cash
If im using fixed load out anyway, is it worth it to use the S3 tarantulas or are the S2s better for some reason?
>>126657219
We say Z because zed sounds silly
The delta mustang is very nearly an effective counter to the hornet, I would make it a bit more maneuverable, and make it to where pilots dont black out the second they try to turn
>>126657456
I'm just saying a single F18's engine has a maximum thrust of 10,000 lbf, and an F35's engine has a thrust of 40,000 lbf, if it's a couple hundred pounds heavier it seems like a fair trade
>>126657908
Will you use fucking google rather than asking /scg/ and some mouthbreather Navy faggot that doesn't even know how much engines weigh?
>>126657539
CIG seems to have issues with us seeing the XMLs for 2.X for some reason. I don't believe the weapon balance has changed since 1.3 very much, though.
The S3s have higher DPS but much lower projectile speed. You'll have an easier time hitting people with the S2s.
>>126658316
I did, there doesn't seem to be a confirmed weight of the F-35's engine, which makes sense.
>ctrl+f carrack
>no results
really motherfuckers? really?
>>126658706
Should turn like shit for balance
>>126657908
superhornet - 13,000-22,000 ftlbs - 2,445 lbs
f-35 - 25,000-40,000 ftlbs - 3,750 lbs
not including all packaging
>>126658706
I think the Harbinger will make the Gladiator largely obsolete until it gets quad racks or something else to help it fill its role better than it currently does.
I think it'll probably be my go-to ship considering the number of people that want to go for mid-sized vessels, and those who will joust all day every day.
Only issue is if I meet a Gladicuck
>>126658706
I don't like the profile. It's nice of them to include my very own escape COFFIN though.
>>126658316
hey man, i make a lot more than those mouthbreathing navy faggots thank you very much, also its not like this thread has any purpose right now anyhow, its about as useful as /meg/ except replace waifus with shipfus
>>126657219
Reduce the number of flares so they can't be spammed endlessly. Make all the S2 and S3 missile suck less. Make God damn sure a super hornet is never faster than a normal hornet or ghost
>>126658706
Butthurt weeb detected.
I feel as if Vanguards will be pointless in the PU.
sure they will have range but what's the point if they can't dogfight?
>>126659556
They'll turn like a heavy fighter. Because thats what they are.
Even if its reduced to cruising away in a direction, decoupling, and using the forward armament defensively, all that dakka is going to hurt.
>>126660019
>Greatness
You mean the shitposting throne
Great, first furries, then autists and now weeaboos.
Just different flavors of the same shit.
>>126660019
>we
>>126658706
The amount of dakka on the nose of the warden is impressive, I can only imagine it will handle very poorly
>>126660019
>we
>pedophile manchildren think so highly of themselves
>>126660545
it must really suck to have to post about yourselves.
You must be desperate.
>>126659556
Once were playing in a space larger than the fucking space around that gas giant the range of ships will matter a lot more.
Vanguards are long range fighters, which I imagine will be a pretty big deal.
>>126660545
>but I'm already like $500 in.
Why though. You're spoiling the satisfaction you would have gotten by earning those ships normally.
>>126660695
Hornets don't even have a jump drive so they can't chase you across systems, which is probably where the Vanguard comes in.
>>126661617
The only ships that don't have a jump drive are snub/parasite fighters.
>>126661682
I'm probably misremembering it, maybe I'm thinking of the lack of fuel which limits it to one system effectively. They wanted to make the Hornet be based off a carrier/mothership basically.
native oculus rift support fucking when. I want to live the dream
>>126661871
There is some ages-old info that said the military hornets have no jump drive, but carry even more guns and ammo and better shields and a stronger reactor etc.
No idea if this is still accurate or relevant.
>>126661871
Not all ships come with a jump drive by default, but given its functionality it should be dirt cheap to get one in game so it doesn't matter
>>126662128
Considering Quantum travel is now a function of your jump drive, I don't see any ships not coming with one at launch. Even if it is shitty.
>>126662035
Probably.
>>126662035
Races are also meant to be held just in normal space, across a system.
>>126661953
>native facebook support
lol
>>126662035
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/spectrum-dispatch/14188-The-Murray-Cup
This is pretty much all we have so far
>>126663087
HULL series have refuelling tanks for escorts. Its a non-issue.
I hope betting on races becomes a thing and people mysteriously crash on the third lap to throw the race
>>126663197
>inb4 hornet scrub rams the transport while trying to refuel.
>>126663376
Okay, anon.
If you can't fight Hornets, you're pretty shirt.
>>126662343
Some will have full jump drives some will just have quantum drives. They still want buying your first jump drive to be a major part of the early play experience. The checkpoint for leaving the starter area and all that.
Will it be possible to transfer fuel by hand from a freighter to another ship without the use of special equipment?
>>126663746
I'm saying that Hornets aren't the flying rapemachine you seem to be making them out to be, and having them as escorts that need to refuel off the HULL every now and then is sufficient.
>Why fly a Sabre if a Hornet can be modded for stealth?
Because the Ghost has shit-tier stealth and sacrifices most of its firepower to have it? Are you high?
I hope you can put drop tanks on hardpoints
>>126663883
People love to forget that theres going to be a major difference between carrier based ships and long range ships.
>>126663736
Fuel stored in cargo containers to another hold probably, but I doubt you can fill tanks up
>>126664261
It still has inferior stealth, arguably has less armament if the saber's S3 gimbal can be a fixed S4, and the hornet still has shit tier hornet maneuverability
>>126664286
That said, if the Hornet is as powerful as people here make them out to be, I don't see people choosing to fly a Gladius in their carrier for example
>>126664261
>It still has decent enough stealth, and it still has 4 guns
It has 2, less than the Sabre.
If you're attaching either turret, you're shitting all over any advantage you have from the armor by increasing your EM/IR through that.
Oh no, 2 S3 guns! What an uncounterable beast of destruction!
>The last 2 years seem to contest that statement, anon.
If you think the leaderboards are an indicator of anything, you're a moron. Gladius' are the top-tier dogfighter in 1.3, and we'll see in 2.0 when it isn't broken.
Only thing Hornets actually have is broken-ass IM mode gimbals, which aren't going to stay.
>>126664440
>can't see where you're going
I think that concept needs work
>>126664440
I was hoping to turn my Catt into a ghetto support ship but if it can't do fuel I won't bother.
>>126664881
>Getting triggered by facts
The Hornet can be easily blown the fuck out.
Its overpowered to a degree, but like I said, its not a symptom of the ship itself. Its more of gimbals and right now, GT-870 spam.
Which won't remain.
>>126664881
I didn't make any shitty remarks.
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I have a saber, and would like it to be decent at the very least
that said I dont want it to be the best otherwise every minmaxing shitter is just gonna flock to it
as it stands I can take care of most hornets with a mustang, given the greater maneuverability and weaponry of the saber I'm sure it'll dominate in the hands of a capable pilot, similar to the gladius
>>126652791
I've always liked vice, they cover all sorts of interesting things.
>>126665864
I think they're pretty placeholder, but yes.
I imagine you might get a few options but it won't be a standard mount.
>>126664926
I imagine if you want a sort of refueling/staging thing, you would need something more dedicated like the Crucible. Otherwise you could probably get variants of other ships like the Starliner, but you probably won't be able to get very big ships in there
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/IGAIR
I mean, this is kind of autistic but at the same time sort of brilliant
>>126667284
Jesus christ
>>126667284
It's only really autistic if people running that org actually take it (and themselves) seriously.
>>126667284
This looks more like the fun kind of autism.
I like it.
>>126667284
Why would people want to be a bus driver in-game?
>>126667284
>>126667690
At least their "backstory" is more believable than all those fucking military orgs
>>126664620
It has 3 S3 hard points, and the non super variants are actually pretty damn agile right now at least till your boost runs out. And they've said the Sabre will be rather fragile.
>>126667284
It's the good kind of autism, where they just do what they like and fill out the background of the game and make it feel more alive.
>>126668410
the Saber is 2000 KG more than the gladius with more thrusters which are more powerful
The hornet weighs 5000 more than the saber with similar maneuvering thrusters
>>126668790
With Chris Roberts that doesn't mean the Hornet is less maneuverable
>>126669012
Subtle shitposting is still shitposting, weeb.
>>126669005
You are right but we have no reason to assume the hornet will be more maneuverable, especially as we know that it's not very maneuverable and the sabre is focused on maneuverability
>>126669012
Get out, faggot.
>>126669412
Just get the fuck out already.
>>126669316
>if you ignore them they go away!
That's not how it works.
>>126669012
Will you people ever leave?
>>126669316
>hate you less
No, faggot, if you niggers stopped posting your shitty KWA/ved/kong or whatever else bullshit, the general would be fine. Those orgs have eternally ruined their reputation here, and organizations don't even have any use in the game yet. Leave now. Thanks.
>>126669670
>let's just let the shitposting sit here!
>the shitposters would hate us less if we let them do what they want!
Why are you still here?
>>126669919
>banter
You must be new here. The shitposting from earlier this year and all years before it were so bad that I almost considered this to be the worst general on /vg/. It was almost impossible to discuss the development of the game, and that's been happening for fucking ever. Now why is it a surprise that people want the removal of all signs of it now? Just don't post your cancerous KWA fuckery and discuss the game.
>>126669919
your new is showing.
Orgposting is cancer.
>>126670552
>December 2013
>okay with orgposting
k
>>126670614
It would only make sense if they used existing weapons companies.
>one hundred million dollars
>servers causing even top-of-the-line rigs to stall at 5 FPS
>>126670843
I would like to join in the discussion about why the Constellation should be the best dogfighting ship, and how CIG are not doing her justice
>>126670921
More money does not mean problems are solved faster.
>>126671057
I guess we see orgposting differently.
Also, I hope S42 doesn't release in 2016. I don't think it would be ready for release. Maybe spring 2017. They only completed mocap in spring of this year, so they'd only have a year and a half to make what was called "20 hours of gameplay" which I don't believe could be made in only a year and a half.
Whoever at CIG said 2016 is shooting themselves in the foot.
>Release dates
>>126671760
Okay.
>>126664440
>anti-grav repulsor tech exists
>ships still operate on a single gravity zone instead of maximizing usable space with their geometry
>>126672005
What are you trying to prove?
>>126672007
I still think it's at least another 14+ months. The PU should be early 2018 considering that everything used in S42 will be used in the PU. What worries me about the PU is that they have 100+ systems to make for launch with plenty of space stations, aliens and their entire fleets, more human ships, yada yada.
There's still so much to be done in regards to the rest of the game. This ProcGen had better be fucking spectacular.
>>126672741
I am posting SC content.
>>126672816
downboat
that's leddit lingo, right?
>2014 February
>>126672683
Sounds unsafe as fuck tbqh
>>126672683
>expecting people to wrap their heads around hard sci-fi
It is what it is. Will get are hard sci-fi game some day.
>>126673368
then why operate gravity at all inside a ship?
I wish I could run Star Citizen as well as I do Elite Dangerous.
or that ED was actually fun.
>>126672816
I'm trying to upvote but it just keeps shrinking wtf
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eeYaCbX.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>126673479
for that matter why use conventional engines when you can just create an endless hole the mass of the ship can fall toward to travel through space
>>126672816
I just sort by new posts anyway. Fucking echo chambers.
>>126665864
I think the S2 guns are special to the Vanguard.
>>126672816
You're obviously trying to get a rise out of people.
>>126673079
I don't know, family. I guess their missed dates have done a number on how I perceive their ability to follow a date.
>>126673742
I don't get it. Why is this some kind of shocking revelation?
Should I pick up a single seat ship like the Delta or Reliant while the sale is still ongoing?
Already have a Gladiator, Vanguard, Constellation and Crucible.
>>126665864
You probably won't want to change them anyway. Some one pulled the stats from the game files and found that they are m4a cannons on steroids.
>>126674281
reliant looks like a good single person multirole ship, but you've already got a good hangar
>>126673742
More
For I wish to LEL at this game
>>126674028
>the S2 guns are special to the Vanguard.
The Warden has some sort of special laser cannons, the Harbinger has slightly better ones and the Sentinel comes with Suckerpunches iirc. So they can be replaced, but the selection is going to be limited.
>>126674281
>Crucible
Best support ship
>Constellation
Best all arounder of the medium ships
>Vanguard
decent
Remove Gladiator and buy a Reliant Kore. Get Vanguard upgrade kit to the Harbinger (replace Gladiator bomber role) and you should be set.
>>126673742
>So I just watched this week's Starcast show on Twitch - and BadNewsBaron stated he had read that Ben confirmed that CIG is planning to sell ship packages that include ships bigger than simple starter ships POST-Release e.g. Connies and Hornets.
That's some middle school level gossip.
>>126674661
>Remove Gladiator
It canpossiblycarry a variety of stuff on the pylons though, while the Harbinger only has internal bays.
>Get Vanguard upgrade kit to the Harbinger
I have one, just waiting until it's flyable so I can use the Warden in the meantime.
But yeah, I think I'll pick up a Reliant for some minor hauling in case multicrew ships aren't viable on day 1.
>>126676089
>variety of stuff on the pylons
I hope they do this. It would give the Gladiator and Gladius a unique advantage to other more powerful craft.
so it there any reason why I shouldn't become a hornetshitter, at least until more interesting ships are available?
>>126676089
Missiles are garbage though.
>>126677592
As cool as the MIS is I think it should have only existed in the lore and maybe scatered in the PU as a collector item.
Can you buy shit in the in game stores? Like guns? I've tried hitting f on them and nothing
>>126679187
Not yet. That's probably coming in 2.2.
>>126676089
>Size 5 torp
no fucking way. That would put the nail in the coffin for the retaliator. There would be no incentive to use it over a gladiator if that configuration is possible.
>>126679898
torpedo size classes are all over the place. Last I saw, torpedo have their own size scale now rather than using missile sizes like that image does.
>>126680183
Can the turret op turn around and shoot the torpedoes, thus killing everyone on the ship?
>>126680235
>Gladiator has always had bigger torps than a Retaliator
Should I buy the Mustang Alpha starter pack and upgrade it to the Reliant Kore?Will the Reliant be flyable in the next 6 months?
>>126680235
No it doesn't you retard. The gladiator has S2 torps (currently placeholder with missiles) and the retaliator will get S3 torps.
Do you even have a game package?
>>126680657
Should be hangar ready soon.
Flight ready who knows.
>>126679187
Stores have been talked about a lot lately. I think we might see them sooner than most think.
>>126680551
Don't know, fucker quantum jumped away before I could shoot the torps
>>126680657
Buy the LN pack, a ccu to Avenger Titan and an avenger to reliant swap and then sit on that until the Reliant is either flyable or giving you the correct loaner ship.
>>126681662
They are just cosmetical anyway. It spawns Stalker V if you try to fire the torpedos.
Apart from that, missiles are supposed to not explode when shot.
>>126681869
I shot down about 4 missiles in total by now. Do you mean they don't explode when inactive?
>>126682896
Probably. It would be too easy to kill a ship with repeaters or gatlings if you could blow up missile racks.
>>126682896
Yeah. I didn't think it was possible to shoot down missiles yet though.
>>126679898
I can see a Gladiator carrying 8 S5s desu. It would be balanced by the ship being heavy/slow as fuck (Stalker V weighs 1,1 tons currently iirc) and consuming lots of fuel.
Meanwhile the Retaliator could carry a bigger payload (I guess 6 bigger torpedos deal more damage then 8 significantly smaller ones) through multiple systems without depending on a carrier and is able to somewhat defend itself.
>inb4 Retaliator is shit
>>126683378
Considering they wouldn't explode when unarmed, I don't know why they'd go through the trouble of implementing that.
Postin simple webms
If you are out there mrgrand you were a good sport
>>126684180
This hornet was literally fighting me with its hands behind its back
Its wings were somehow still folded and every time he shot the wing mounted lasers shot to the side
>>126653529
Money well spent imo. CIG got some genuine insight into a production capable ship pipeline, a few talented employees and shitloads of (almost) free advertising. I doubt the whole thing cost that much.
>>126686690
Those and this old one are all I've got for now
It's surprising how few webms I see in this generals
>>126663442
>>126663746
don't forget that originally the hornet was going to be the mary-sue of space fighters. Now we have a million ships with complex roles CIG have to quietly nerf it back to something more sensible.
>play 2.0
>framerate is much better, routinely hitting above 45 FPS on Very High, but it crashes constantly
>play 2.1
>0 (zero) crashes, but the framerate makes the game literally unplayable
>>126687307
Fuck off with your logo bullshit.
>>126676089
If this comes true, I think the 19 S1 missiles would be the best option. Faggots have tons of flares anyway, so being able to soften them up/damage components with some S1s would be better than bringing only a few S2s or 3s.
>>126664926
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it's designed to do. There will probably be refeuling modules, repair modules, exploration modules, "salvage" modules etc.
obviously it's not gonna carry a huge amount of fuel but it'll probably be able to ghetto refuel/rearm/repair a few fighters if you want it to.
>>126687898
>what it's designed to do
I don't think so. That's more along the lines of the Crucible, since it has repair functionality and also a refuel and rearm garage.
The ship interior zoning isn't exactly as good as it was said to be. We have yet to get past 16 ships. Let's us all hold hands and pray that we at least get to 60 PC ships + NPC ships
>>126676089
I want a saber with a belly full of tiny missiles
I want a Sabre with a belly full of MY tiny missiles
>>126672007
>they met the PU alpha deadline
Not trying to shitpost you know what the P in PU stands for? The U?
It's multi-crew with a fancy lobby. They've still got a lot of work to do before they even consider adding persistence to the game.
>>126688710
l-lewd
>>126688471
They're runing into restrictions on the server side now. Traking all that location data is putting to much stress on the server. They talked about paying to have more cores but it becomes exponentially more expensive.
>>126689424
RIP star citizenA-are the leftovers from the 100mil enough to pay for it?
