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Merry Grindmas Edition


>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
General: http://pastebin.com/kTX8Qyzb
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/RBjxzmTE
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/tZ4b2FPb
Clan info / Links: http://pastebin.com/nEy7qP9s
Gameplay Automation / Macros guide (using either will get you banned): http://pastebin.com/t2p3k6Ux
Forum threads: http://pastebin.com/q4Fsyz8H
Fapfiction: http://pastebin.com/rnMZuDHU

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png

>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Frame Criteria: http://pastebin.com/zr30YF2j
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables: https://github.com/Deathmax/warframe_data/blob/master/en/missionrewardtables.csv
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1cgKtEHNakluJywqyfFtDigv3TI3gornlEdg1-jkFA/edit#gid=0
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2

---
CURRENT UPDATE: 18.1 Ring of Fire (Nezha)
>https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/579670-update-1810-spoilers/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Trinity
>https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/540178-update-176-trinity-prime/
>https://warframe.com/prime-access
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://pastebin.com/ZyJAXL28
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Raid Stats:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION
http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialStats.php
http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialNightmareStats.php
THE JORDAS VERDICT
http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialGolemStats.php

/wfg/ OP pastebin, if its not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/Mftv9RXK
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Danielle is best DE
Rebecca a shit
Megan a skank
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PUBLIC WHIPPING OF THE RETARDED FUCKING IDIOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GODAWFUL EXTERMINATION FUCKUP FUCKING WHEN SHIT FUCKING CHRIST FUCK
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>>126580336
steve should be gagged for greenlighting that
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>>126580131
>Oberon not wearing rudolph nose
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my warframe is strong.
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>>126580616
D-DELETE
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>>126580616
DELETE BEFORE STEVE HIDES IT FURTHER IN
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Thank God its over.
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>>126580616
Post it on forum.
Post replies here.
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>>126580838
truly the search for thunderbolt is one that we all must brave one day.
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>>126580616
FUCKING DELETE THIS
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LETS ALL SHARE OUR CURRENT SEEDS

C:\Users\[your usersanme]\AppData\Local\Warframe\ee.log
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>>126581059
No, it only shows that there IS in fact a seed and that it is a session seed. That number is different every time you boot up your game.
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>>126580616
>>126581059
saved for no apparent reason
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>>126581059
DELETE PLEASE
HOLY FUCK
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>>126581214
So, if I am understanding correctly, that number will determine what kind of Rng I will get for that session?
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>>126581315
Yes pretty much.
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>>126581082
3.398 Sys [Diag]: SRand seeded with: 10143734624272863354
>>126581315
yes
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>>126581059
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>126581082
554740388810110899
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>>126581214
So.. There is indeed a seed
But what it does, no one knows what it does
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Finally sleekedgot everything.

This one is any good?
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>>126581575
Do you think removing all enemy armor with 3CP is good? If so, yes.
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>>126581082
things we know are seeded
ur mum
discount based on geographical location and platform
doges
prime gear drops
mods?
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>>126581059
Not for nothing, but doesn't most 'random' generated results use a generated seed?

It's obvious in things like emulation, where depending on the game, you can reload and see the action play out the exact same since the seed was still the same. A lot of games have actions of all kinds change the seed to assist in better generation, but that's how computers randomly generate results.

Warframe having a seed is nothing groundbreaking.
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>>126581082
1.253 Sys [Diag]: SRand seeded with: 15611713154175125755

MY NUMBER IS STRONG
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>tinfoil hats think DE will go through the trouble of making seeds instead of just giving shit drop rates to begin with
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>>126580131
>I fucked up and didn't link previous thread in the last op
>this one doesn't have it either
>no one has noticed
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>>126581557
Ok, time to demystify this before we get even more shitposting.

In ye olde times we knew pretty well what it did, it determined your reward chances and it was simple to figure out.
We even had a tool to calculate our defense rewards: http://sunbla.de/Warframe/SedR/

When they noticed we found out they made it more "random" and more complicated so that was no longer possible. It still determines your rewards though and I'm pretty sure it also still locks itself into certain rewards.
We know it's session based because that number is generated differently every time you start your game.
I suspect there is no account seed as I and a friend have compared large data sets for stuff over more than 1000 hours of gameplay (for example the number of fusion cores we get) and those are remarkably similar which would speak for true RNG, at least for mods.
Mission rewards are DEFINITELY seeded though, but on a session basis. Also only the hosts seed counts in multiplayer.

tl;dr getting crap? restart game or switch hosts

>>126581848
Yes. The problem is that the warframe RNG seems to lock itself into certain rewards and that all your chances are only generated ONCE based on that session seed which means repeating a mission with a bad seed is not a good idea.
Restarting the game and getting closer to a gaussian distribution of your rewards is better.
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>>126581082
1.515 Sys [Diag]: SRand seeded with: 11256417162302273940

fookin spooky
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>>126582212
no one cares about that shit except autists
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>>126580336
>doing sortie ext
>203/205
>walk back into previous room, shoot a moa
>Whole map is white
>go back to extraction
>sit there for like a minute
>suddenly a lone prodman plops down in the middle of the tile

Nice, epic. Amazing.
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Of course there's a seed dumb-dumbs, computers can't into actually random.

You group with other people who get the same drops as you anyway, so just never host if you are that suspicious.
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>>126582196
>trying to defend after proving there's seeds
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>>126582373
This shit happens more because they nefed the spawn rate.
For what fucking reason? Why not just remove draco at this point?
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>>126582485
seeds for what?
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>>126582212
1. I do it to fuck with spergs
2. Nobody cares.
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>>126582569
Because then people would really turn on them.

Draco is their scapegoat for nerfing anything which helps you get affinity fast. They can do whatever they want and a lot of people will say "just do Draco instead".

Nerfing Draco would be shooting themselves in the foot even more than they already did in the past month.
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>>126582637
Session.
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>>126582801
which determine what?
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>>126583101
Take a guess defense.
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>>126582242
>repeating a mission with a bad seed is not a good idea.
>Restarting the game and getting closer to a gaussian distribution of your rewards is better.
Holy crap that was simple. Time to put this theory to use.
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>>126583186
guessing is exactly what you're doing not me
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>>126583226
Makes sense to me.

It's better to get 100% randomness, since you've either got a good seed, a bad seed, or a neutral seed. If it's a good seed you've already got what you want, and if it's a neutral seed, it still works out at normal levels of randomness.

I question why the fuck they don't just regenerate the seed after each mission. Dynamic seeds have been a thing for fucking aeons. When emulating shit like Fire emblem, you could get the same result over and over, but if you moved someone prior to doing that same action, the seed was modified, so the result changed.
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>>126583226
Don't restart instantly after one try though. Ok theoretically you should but we're all human so... sure you can roll badly but you can also get a better than average roll. If that's the case milk it, hard.
That's only for one mission type though, you can't get a "generally" good seed.
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>>126583424
dynamic seeds would make a good game, but not Warframe.
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>>126583424
Because they are fucking lazy.
They did it initially, we called them out on it, see the reward calcualtor.
Then they hid it deeper in but changing it and making something better? Nah, too much effort.

This is typical DE, through and through.
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>>126583424
Because that would make sense to include, and would run the risk of turning the developers at DE into dust
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>>126583226
>waste time restarting based on nothing
did you hold down and b when you throw a pokeball too? i've done it and caught a rayquaza with a regular pokeball once. of course it only took like 200 or so tries but my autism won in the end.
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>>126583569
What else would you expect from Bandaid Extremes.
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>>126583256
Well if we guess that it's how we connect and not a DT seed, it would stay the same each time we start the client, but it doesn't. It changes every time. Call people tinfoil if you want, but there's a seed, and it's random, and changes every time you start up the game.
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>>126580616
>Seeds are fucking Real
>Seeds are fucking Real
>Seeds are fucking Real
>Seeds are fucking Real
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>>126583469
Sure, I should get a sample of seeded rewards. If 4/5 turn out to be utter shit, I should probably restart the game.
>That's only for one mission type though, you can't get a "generally" good seed.
And what would that be?
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is Saryn useless now?
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>>126583741
Seeds have always been fucking real you weenie. That's how computers do random number generation.
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>>126583781
She's as useless as you make her be. So go test.
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>>126583667
I used to time my B presses with the pokeball's movement.

It worked like one time so i was convinced
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>>126583749
>Sure, I should get a sample of seeded rewards. If 4/5 turn out to be utter shit, I should probably restart the game.
I restart after 3 bad attempts, it's working out to average out my drop chances pretty well. It's remarkable how "average" all of my drops are. I seem to get everything after an average amount of time.

>And what would that be?
Bad wording. I just meant that if you get good stuff in one mission because you caught a good seed doesn't mean you'll get good stuff everywhere. The chances of getting a seed like that are astronomically low.
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https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/585924-whats-this-for/

Let's see what we catch lads.
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>>126583667
Even if it doesn't work it doesn't take much time and you can rest for a little
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>>126583959
>Forum post already
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>>126583959
The term 'Deadliest Catch' comes to mind.
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>>126583959
>2m later
>hotfix 18.1.5
>fixed game breaking error, you don't need details about it
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>>126583667
>did you hold down and b when you throw a pokeball too?
Anon I...
...I didn't...
...there are no pokemons here in Vodkaland.
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>>126584068
>tfw i lost 2 Pokemon games when i was a kid
A-Atleast i have simulators now
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>>126583837
in 2 days she'll be ready
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>>126580323
Megan is cute! CUTE!
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>decide to start grinding endless void missions i've been ignoring, might as well aim for soma p
>20 minutes in t2s and get another bronco p bp

How the fuck do you guys not kill yourself
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Hows the vaykor hek anyways? I was wanting to get one so I could nostalgia fag over it and play with it again since I got this new primed shotgun serration bullshit from void jew.
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>>126584828
You need a Primed Point Blank and Ravage for it to beat the Hek I believe. But it's good.
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>>126584741
It looks like it's gonna vomit or something.
Appropriate.
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>>126584957
>primed point blank
literally doesn't matter, base hek uses it just as much.
it's just primed ravage.
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>>126585024
Woops, I had a feeling one of those wasn't needed.
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>>126584957

you mean its not as good as the regular hek? I guess its worth noting I havent fucked with it in like 2 years or something.
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>>126583741
Well, no shit they're real.

The issue is that they're still based on session and not mission, and this confirms that the grind is miserable and reinforces that DE are a bunch of lazy fucks
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>>126585397
The syndicate mod doesn't work on VayHek only on normal Hek
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>>126585397

It's not as good as the regular Hek...... with maxed Scattered Justice, unless maybe you really hate reloading.
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What's in the oven guys?
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>>126585729
My baby in Saryn's womb
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>>126585729
Warframe mobile app when?
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>>126585729
you're mom
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>>126585868
Already made m8.
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What's event the advantage of shotguns in this game? Besides syndicate procs it just seems like more single target damage with a chance of hitting something else due to pellet spread.
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>>126585868
It's been out, but it's as fucking buggy as the game, I don't know why I forgot to expect anything else. I don't know if they patched this before the holiday but it didn't even have any items added since the time they previewed it on the devstream.
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>>126585423
Well this just means less time wasting time on shitty runs.
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>>126585954
Well whaddyaknow
>>126585965
Don't hurt yourself trying to find balance in warframe. DE doesn't understand their game.
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>>126582242
>Mission rewards are DEFINITELY seeded though, but on a session basis.
Source on this?
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>>126585876
>you're
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>>126585729

Only major thing at the moment is Ivara.
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>it's a Spy Sortie mission
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>>126586505
The easiest to solo and fastest of all sortie missions.
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>>126586505
>it's a piss easy mission
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>>126586505
seriously, dude?
git gud or git liki
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>>126580131
Which operator did Megan voice?
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>>126584828
>>126584957
>>126585024
>>126585083
>>126585397
>>126585482
>>126585564
Primed Blunderbuss fucking when?
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>>126586165
>>126586267
Seriously, source? Can someone check when their seed changes after mission and after session?

I'm on holiday without my computer :L
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I know frost is by far the best for triton core farming, but how about hieracon?
ember probably, right?
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Just out of curiosity strawpoll.me/6372386
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>>126582373
i tried to do the infested ext sortie 2 days ago, it started at 0/205, and ended at 205/438.

needless to say i havent done another sortie since
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>>126587473
>captcha

I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers.
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>>126587471
Vauban
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>>126587471
hop on that mag prime, lets do some triton.
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>>126588084
oh, right. duh.
it matter if it's bastille or vortex?
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should I use orokin catalyst/reactors on my starter warframes and karak?
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>>126588180
Vortex

Repelling Bastille if you want to go slow
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>>126588204
You got a excalibur? if no don't.
Get tonkor for potato.
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>>126588204
Only use them once you feel you can't keep up while using good mods. I guarantee you're still using broken mods and shit like that so just wait until you get stuff like Serration and Streamline before throwing something on a frame you may drop later.
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>Solo 4 T4D's no loki systems
>join another players T4D
>systems first c rotation
This only strengthens the theory to me
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>>126588548
confirmation bias
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>>126588548
what theory
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>session seeds
finally something to meme about, /wfg/ was running out of shitposting themes
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How do you think health gating to prevent one hit kills/downs would pass in Warframe?

In the Borderlands series you can't be killed by a single hit if you have more than 40% or so health remaining; this leads to swapping between a DPS weapon and a life sapping weapon to reach that threshold and repeating until the (usually boss) is dead.

With Level 100 scorpion/ancient tethers, toxic ancient sneezes, Juggernaut needles and so on in this game instant killing through max shields and health do you think this would be a good addition? make the game to easy? or would DE just have no idea how to implement it?
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>>126588804
Someone should start Chromaposting again
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>>126588342
I'm not high enough rank for tonkor I think.

>>126588410
I got Serration from an anon here and found streamline while clearing spaces trying to get to Jupiter's boss. I want Nyx as my second mod though. Is she worth using the reactor on?
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>>126588903
>getting rid of symptoms and not the cause
You would make a great employee at Digital Extremes.
Are you jewish?
On a serious note, there's shouldn't be one-shotting enemies with max health-shields in the first place.
But of course this is too hard to think-through and implement for DE.
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LET THE MEMES FLOW
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/3yd7xr/are_account_seeds_real_or_am_i_just_getting_ahead/
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>>126589040
Again, only consider using potatoes if you find yourself too weak and running out of mod space. Where in the game are you? I'd only really consider using a potato around Pluto/Ceres at the earliest when I'd have a good collection of mods.
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>>126589140
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>>126584824
Test builds. 20 mins in any survival is easy as fuck. Make shitty builds and look for sleeks helps pass the grind.
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>>126589140
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/3ycwpn/seeds_not_the_new_loka_kind/
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>>126588903
Early on I thought it would be nice if a large chunk of damage would cleanly stop where your shields end.
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Hey guy, scrub here who finally made a Broban.
Should I focus on Bastille or Vortex considering I mostly solo and do pubbing when necesary?
I'm planning on equiping him with a Tonkor, an Atomos and a Tipedo.
Any suggestion except for killing myself will be taken in consideration. Thanks in advance.
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>It's not just you! http://forums.warframe.com looks down from here.
IT'S HAPPENING
>It's just you. http://forums.warframe.com is up.
Nevermind.
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>>126589576
Oh god that's what I feared. This shit is so boring, I mean I've done grind in many games but wasting 20 minutes each time is fucking hell. At this point it'd be easier to jew some plat, I hate wasting my time on something so braindead.
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>>126589140
>>126589757
January is gonna be real interesting
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>>126589757
>that goy at the bottom
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>>126589140
>inb4 "no shit"
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so...
if one of you faggots gets a trinity prime systems you better post your seed
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>>126589140
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>>126590036
Holy shit, we can post seeds of good runs/sorties holy fucking shit how did I overlook that
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0-4 I sell my Buzz Kill
5-9 I keep it until next update/event
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>>126590205
Just sell it, it's useless and retards pay a lot for it
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>>126589757
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/3ycwpn/seeds_not_the_new_loka_kind/
Alright, whos the shitter who linked back here.
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>>126590205
Ok guess I'm taking another risk.

If DE doesn't reintroduce Buzz Kill next update/event then the price should rise to around 800p-1000p
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>>126588903
That's a poor stopgap for an existing problem, not a solution in and of itself.

That only results in people exploiting your bandaid mechanics like in your own example.
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>>126584824
I used to spend that time catching up with fodder like melee weapons. Easier if carrying multiple weapons that were staggered in exp, so at least one had a damage mod for the 15-20min period.
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>>126589369
Are potatoes suppose to be bad weapon or bad warframes? I'm one planet tile away from Jupiter's boss and I just unlocked Phobos before starting on Jupiter.
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>>126590314
...No one? Unless you mean by reference, in which case I don't think there's a whole lot they're exposing.
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>>126590276
>useless

Alot of shitters use Valkyr and Buzz Kill is a very useful mod for her melee going past DEAC
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>>126590427
Potatoes are Orokin Catalysts/Reactors. Double your mod capacity but can be rare, depending on how often you play/watch alert trackers.

Nova has a potato body tho
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>>126590446
Eh, read the post wrong. Thought he linked back here.
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>>126589895
Here's what I do.

I only ever do it ten minutes at a time. But I play solo, so I can pause, then just tab around doing whatever. So I can do 60minute survivals fine, since I'm free to stop and do other things whenever I want.

The key to enjoying warframe is to take it slow. Else you burn out. That's my philosophy, and I'm still enjoying the game Besides the pota10o
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>>126590314
how do you reset your seed? Just by relogging?
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>>126590470
>Base damage is distributed evenly between Impact b Impact, Puncture b Puncture, and Slash b Slash.
why would you use Buzzkill over elemental mods?
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>>126590470
>melee past DEAC
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>>126590537
You know, that's really good advice. I also solo it just for the luxury of pausing and not dealing with fucking retard pubs, 10 minute chunks sounds a lot better.
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>>126590590
yeah
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>>126590590
Nah, restart your client i think.
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>>126590598
Because it's 120% vs 90%
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>>126590640
>never used a well-built Valkyr's slide attack
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>>126589820
P-pls I want to be a cool kid too.
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>>126590768
yes, but 120% of 33% is less than 90% of 100%
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>>126590768
>120% vs 90% for just one stat

wew
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>>126590781
>using catslut
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>>126590640
I sometimes change it up and do melee 60 min survival runs solo because I get so god damn bored of using the same old weapons.
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>>126590803
Just run Bastille unless you're doing Infested endless. Even then, your duration should hold up pretty well if you get thrown into one unaware.
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>>126590648
Well not strictly 10 minutes, but that's the general gist.

Y'know what I'm doing besides playing warframe? Watching Medabots. And 4chinning.

>>126590781
Valk's slide attack is a goddamn motherfucker and a half.

>>126590907
>Not using one of the few frames that can melee effectively post DEAC.
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>>126590879
Don't her claws primarily deal slash?
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>>126588903
funny enough, DE would take this idea seriously anon!
and apply it to each and every enemy, yes, even common mobs, damage caps on everything, you still die in one hit tho :^)
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>>126589820
Learn to use both. When dealing with Corpus/Grineer learn to use a mix of Bastille as CC and Vortex as CC and grouping enemies to kill quickly. Hell, Repelling Bastille can be really good for defense. Only fucking use Vortex for Infested though, Bastille is so damn slow.

Also be wary, Bastille has been kinda bugged since U18 and I don't know if it's been fixed.
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>>126590990
>melee post DEAC
Yeah, nah.
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>>126590537
I have 100 hours of warframe the past week and am still going.

You just gotta step up your autism levels
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>>126590907
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>>126591023
No anon
>>126590598
Same as Exalted Blade
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>>126591123
>he doesn't like killing hordes of enemies Dynasty Warriors-style
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>>126591123
Two slide attacks taking down a level 100 napalm, with zero armor reduction. Y'sure about that?
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Is Nekros worth potatoing?
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>>126586505
if you can't loki with the best

then ash with the rest
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>>126590527
I got the blueprints for them during an alert so I can make them whenever I have the materials/money. Nova makes a cute potato then
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>>126590907
>he doesn't like using a catslut
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>>126591307
Just stock up on them and use them on "essential" frames/weapons at first like Loki or Tonkor, then eventually you'll have a good supply to dick around with.
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>>126591359
Overlord was boring. BORING!!
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>>126590949
Maximization of Radius and Efficiency seems like a nice idea then. I still have to figure out distances in this game because I've been using Valkyr for most of my time and don't spam Warcry because of the stamina inefficiency of the skill. I'm waiting for Vauban to do my calibrations or get the Valkyr aug to spam Warcry a bit more.
Thank you very much, anon.
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>>126591501
Read the LN
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>>126585729
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>>126591273
I have a Reactor and Exilus on my Nekros, I use him enough in farming and long survivals to make it worth the reactor. I use the Exilus slot for Speed Drift for more cast speed in addition to Natural Talent.
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Best frame and key for soloing vaults?
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>>126591875
Liki capture or Ember exterminate
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>>126585729
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how's this for an ember build?
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>>126591745
I think I'll do that. I like the premise but the anime dragged so much and seemed to fall into so many cliches.
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>>126591806
can you use alternate helmets to build warframes instead of the normal helmet
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Thermite rounds or Hellfire?
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>>126592570
No.
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>>126591875
>soloing vaults

STOP

K E Y S H A R E

Seriously, at least that way every run will have a 100% success rate.
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>>126592574
Thermite Rounds is more cost effective but unless you're going for a status build mods like Hellfire are more effective.
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>>126592862
>he doesn't know
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>>126592984
>He thinks he knows
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>>126592984
DE is on holiday, quick post the sleek
please, every time I get inside I get stopped from every angle, above, below, doesn't matter, the teleport volume stops all
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>>126593180
we're just memeing anon

It's impossible to sleek vaults anymore

inb4 "he doesn't know"
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>>126593334
>she doesn't know
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>>126580131

IGN: iie_senpai

There once was a little girl named Valkyr. She had always wanted to be a Tenno, so she did. Little did she know of the trials she would face. She would be ripped apart and put back together again and again but that's a story for another time. Getting back to the story, Valkyr soon received her warframe but was sent to sleep soon after. In her dreams she was a kitty always hopping around and chasing mice. It was fun. After what was thought as an eternity in slumber, Valkyr had awaken from her dream finding out not only had she became a Tenno but also the kitty in her dreams. She got up and stretched her new found parts and then proceeded to slaughter all her enemies, because Lotus told her to. The End.

Playing warframe because friends told me I could be a little girl space ninja in space. So I did. Loli space ninjas.
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>>126593514
It's Wrong.
blacklisted
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http://strawpoll.me/6370546
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>>126593661
>sorties
>bad

u wut

Even though the rewards are shit it's at least nice to be able to hop right into some quasi post-DEAC content right away with special modifiers.
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>>126593843
Some people bitch and moan about dailies.
I also neglected to put mobility 2.0 in.
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>>126593661
>http://strawpoll.me/6370546

>No Wia destroyed Warbros options

Either a Wia cuck or Omega Frost
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>>126582373
Prod Rambo. Heh
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>reached mastery rank 10 yesterday
>end up pushing it to make it to mastery 11
>didnt know there was a 24hr timer
>have to wait 15hrs to rank up
>wait it out
>start mastery 11 test with plans to switch teleport with liki
>throw out decoy
>nothing
>throw out decoy
>nothing
>less then 10 seconds
>panic
>try making my way as normal
>forget that you have to shoot orbs
>already past first one
>:00
>24hrs until i can retry
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>>126593934
>"Man, fuck these guys for adding more things I HAVE to do! This suuuuuuucks!"

People can complain about anything.
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>>126593843
This, t b h.

If only we had something similar that was farmable like void missions.
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>>126594074
How the heck do you get mastery so fast
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>>126593939
>clan gets killed by a person who doesn't even play the game anymore

Was there any way of preventing it?
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>>126594101
Don't worry, Star Chart 3.0 will take care of that ;)
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>>126594317
Honestly looking forward to it if for no other reason than the bit where each planet gets it's own tileset.
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>>126594226
I cooked up like 10 different weapons of each type, sentinals/kubrows, and frames

By this point I believe I've reached enough mastery for 12 but im sitting on mastery 10 because I fucked up
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Post your Warframes
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how do i make archwing missions tolerable
the first one was so good, despite le instant death ray kill
now i've got no mods and my shit is like level 9 and i never want to touch it
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>>126594650
Go Uranus, afk survival.
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>>126594385
Venus not having ice planet missions would be nice
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>>126594287
You should've seen all the wiacucks come out and defend him that time.

Shit was pathetic.
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>>126594914
I was there anon.
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>>126594650
Leech off someone who is leveled so you can pick up mods (do defence or interception for BOTH corp and grin because they have different drops). Since all archwing content is DE approved your weapon damage barely matters, just focus on shield and health mods. I recommend using the loot detection aura on your frame since it works in AW mode and will make finding mods easier in the 3D environment.
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>>126584243
No child should be deprived of Pokemon. No one.
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>>126590036
>>126590162
And how the fuck are you going to make the game use the seed you want it to?
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>>126595026
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>>126585801
TOXIC WOMB
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>>126595120
since its one seed per session you change the file while you're playing faggot
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>>126595218
>inb4 someone gets banned and DE says messing with it will get you reset.
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>>126594628
Grindframe
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>>126595218
I'm sure changing the log files will affect the actual game values
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>>126595330
Man, every time I think "Why do I play this shitty game" I get reminded of the alien visuals. I wish the art team wasn't so bogged down by the rest of DE's bullshit.
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>>126595218
doesn't the game like autoban for memory viewers/editors?
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rate my catslut
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>>126596312
Asimov/10
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>>126596312
I rate it...

Bloom/10

Seriously, turn off the bloom and try again.
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>>126596312
>cape obscuring butt

i dont care if theres a small window i hope you get tetanus
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>>126596517
Also use F6 with whatever option it is to hide the menus
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>>126596517
i thought i had it off thanks for remembering to turn it off anon
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>>126585729
* (Partaking in worthless garbage fills you with determination.)
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>get the hek
>BonerYes.jpeg
>decide to try and get to the mod
>days worth of farming points
>plus 2 forma, a catalyst, and a soma prime barrel
Would anyone thats already at max be willing to give one/do a shitty trade for one
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>>126596957
Sure, post ign
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What's the best animation type for dual wield weapons?
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Is Zephyr an ok frame or are they just goofy low gravity fun?

Also is it worthless to even possess Akzani when you already have Dex Furis?
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>>126597065
I should have done that in the first post, huh.
professorG


>>126585729
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>>126597096
loki noble
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>>126581082
SRand seeded with: 12851701170498580824
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>>126593939
>Omega Frost
literally who?
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>>126597131
zephyr is almost oberon-tier useless
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>Yfw you get bored of Survivals so youjust run around
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>>126597454
>that shitter dying at the end
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>>126597096
Ember Noble
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so, for how long has finishing damage not ignored shields? was it a bug all along? :^)
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Drac focus farming
1 Ash prime
1 Sayrn
1 Equinox

Both fighting for killing xp

Take a guess which frame got the most kills
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>>126597760
Ember
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>>126594628
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>>126597840
Both ash and sayrn quit before the wave ended after seeing they didn't get shit

4% ivara just chilling for the share xp not focus
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>>126597454
Everyone seems to lose their mind during survivals and just fuck off on their own even though we all know damn well it's better to stay together to share affinity. But I do it too.

Just something about the unending dread of survivals that everyone just contracts retardation for the duration.
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>>126597760
>focus farming
>not premade with 1 dedicated killer taking turns every 2 rounds after they're maxed
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>>126598110
Usually i do it when i have a frame that's solo capable, or find a spot AI can't path well to while i afk.
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>>126598135
>He doesn't know
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>>126598225
>He doesn't know
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>>126597425

>Better than Oberon

I'm sold. Doesn't matter how useless Zephyr is, as long as it isn't the glorified liquid shit puddle that is Oberon.

I have one and haven't leveled them past 8. Good thing I now have the fun trash, at least...
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What are the best weapons/frames to potato?
I kind of want to do it on a Mirage
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>>126598265
>He really doesn't know
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>>126598518
Do it, mirage is a Blast.
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>>126598225
ok, what, is there some way to share focus? or you just alluding to the fact that draco is not the best way to farm focus?
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Oi, ceramic dagger alert with 10 minutes left on it if anyone cares.
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Haven't played since nyx prime, should i download again?
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>>126598727
yeah, just did it
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>>126598763
Don't do it, you are free
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>>126598852
had everything mastered when nyx prime came out. Left because of the shitty void drop rates and fucking argon crystals
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>>126596312
>filename

Missed the mark by a mile/10

Dildo armor and a bondage mask is not how you paladin.
>>
i'm thinking about selling my excalibur and building a new one because i fucked up added the wrong polarity to a slot. i'm not the retarded one here, right? who wants an extra forma star over their frame's name, knowing it was a waste.
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>>126599313
at least you are not the guy with 20 formas on MK1Braton
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>>126599313
you're not alone in that sentiment - if only you could still swap polarities with aura and exilus, it wouldn't be as big a deal

but I've resigned myself to accepting it as a scar, a badge of mistakes made and lessons learned, so my loki prime will have a 2nd star when he needed none
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>>126599313
>not formaing stuff just to collect stars
Yep, you're the retarded one
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>>126599507

Did this really happen at some point?
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>>126599542
yes but there's a difference between purposely collecting stars and making a mistake and accidentally having a star.
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>>126599630
>he's never seen the guy with the 30 Forma Braton and the 10+ Trinities
>He's never seen the 20-Oberon Man
Oh how I envy you
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>>126599650
Same thing at the end of the day, just forma it again and it's the same as building a new one, minus 3 days waitwall
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>>126599776
Well, the parts do just come to by doing literally anything bar PvP. And if you've got the plat for slots...
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>>126599776
>30 Forma Braton and the 10+ Trinities
wasn't it like 51 or something at last count? does that gun do damage of all types and always purple crit now?
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>>126599313
Just keep forma-ing it until you've got all you want, then forma it a few more times. Retroactively collect stars.
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>>126599776

>20 Oberon man

Having experienced the horror of just one Oberon, I want to learn more about this to sate my morbid curiosity.

And this is coming from a guy who willingly plays crap/Zephyr. I literally cannot comprehend who would even play Oberon and like it.
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>>126598336
you'd think she'd be fun but she really isn't

gravity effects don't reset if you use tailwind multiple times, so if you think you're going to be flying, you're very wrong; you'll achieve some dank falling speeds though
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>>126600007
A guy who apparently builds every Oberon set he gets. The one screenshot showed 22 Oberons plus a ready to claim one.
It's a mad, mad, mad world.
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>>126600000
Let's see it
>>
so did anyone ever find an easy way to extract all the weapon data from the game? like, the local EE cache files, when extracted, contain a bunch of plaintext data and numbers, but it's organized in a way that's (mostly) useless unless you manually search for weapon names/internal IDs, and try to match that up to an often unclearly delineated block of code/text that has the real numbers

I couldn't think of any automated way to extract those, given the inconsistent patterns, and figured the best bet would be to find a way to actually reconstruct the "file format" of those cache files (split into like, header data and parity components, or something), but I haven't seen this done yet

tl;dr how do I get REAL weapon stats? arsenal, codex, and wiki are all slightly inaccurate
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>>126600859
No, and doing so will get you shitcanned if they figure out it's you. Besides, we know what weapons work and don't work currently anyways.
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>>126600320

WHY.

WHY DO THIS.

WHY.

>>126600017

A shame. Still find them funner than the Volt which I've apparently used 85% of the time, though that might just be that I've overdone it so much that I'll find almost anything funner than that.
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>>126600320
>>126601184
It's not 22. It's worse.
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>>126601014
why would they even care? I'm not trying to modify or exploit the game, just learn more about how it actually works since they won't give us accurate information... and it would be great to be able to rip the music and everything directly from the game if we could put all the data into a navigable/useable format, something none of the tools I've found seem to be able to do with the game now

I still avoid asking around in relation to my account just in case, since they do seem to react very poorly to anything of that nature - everything from affinity farming to animation exploits seems to call down the heavy-handed kneejerk of doom from fatfuck and co

and I know that we have "good enough" information, but muh autism compels me to be able to accurately predict in-game damage results and figure out what's wrong with my formulas or what DE has stealth changed/broken (something that becomes impossible when we are told weapons have 3 base values when it's actually one whole number base value and 3 weird fractions like a 0.15000001/0.15000001/0.69999999 ratio)
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>>126601390
this would take almost half a year of continuous building to make
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>>126601390
holy fuk
>>126601462
so?
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>>126601462
look at his plat. Rethink what you've said.
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>Perrin's MOA spectres sneak when you do

Positively adorable. and it's the only thing they're good for
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>>126601462
look at this avatar.
you can't get more autismal than that, so it's very plausible he has 50 oberons
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Tips on fighting Jordas Golem?
i know that you're supposed to blink to it's back and shot the shit out of the engine but my corrosive modded Imperator still doesn't do enough damage, or is it just supposed to be that sturdy?
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>>126601792
webm pl0x?
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>>126602043
It is just fucking sturdy yeah. Just pile on the damage and fire rate you can and keep at it.
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>>126602043
It's because you're using the Imperator. Use the Velocitus. If you don't have it, farm for it. If you don't want to farm for it, fuck off.
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>>126602149
oh i see, thanks

>>126602183
i don't like velocitus it sounds like my dad's name
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>>126602221
>i don't like velocitus it sounds like my dad's name
what?
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>>126602221
anon it's me velocitus
please play an actually good game, I'm worried about you
I love you
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>>126602221
>i don't like velocitus it sounds like my dad's name
were you raped by him or something lmao
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>>126601404
If you're autism compels it i won't stop you, but i will say you might be looking at the wrong board.
Try >>>/g/dpt
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>join ODS
>Excal tries to leave at 15mins
>host telling him not to starts complaining
>get to 20
>say i'm amazed a excal can't handle ODS
>host tries to bite my head off saying he's mr4
>mfw saying my mentally deformed dog could do this with an excal, press 4 and go ham
>immediately disbands squad once back
Jesus christ i shoulda recorded that. Even funnier, host was ember prime and not usin WoF to nuke everything.
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>>126602087
>>126601792
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>>126602681
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>>126602681
damn, that actually looks cute
>that jump when it goes from crouching to standing again
Perrin MOA Specters are CUTE. CUTE!
>>
O-o-k time to put you in the freezer since you are 30. Its for your own good.
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>>126602681
>that hop at the end
That's actually really cute, who knew DE could actually do something good?
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>>126599507
>>126599542
>>126599776
Oh you guys haven't seen this one yet?
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>>126602786
>>
So non-dynamic seeds are real in Warframe. For year(s) I've believed DE blatantly fucks with accounts of players they do not take favor of. Specially players who calls them on on their shit in a "toxic" manner. I only wish I could prove this.... I did have some proof from Letter13 blatantly attacking Warbros players on the forum giving them warnings left and right out of personal hatred. Again...it's the same situation of knowing a child stole from the cookie jar but you haven't caught them in the act yet.
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>>126602825
I count 100 forma.
Between the 0 in 30 and U in upgrades is 50.
That's terrifying and impressive at the same time.
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>>126602825
why sheev tho
atleast could have been ceramic dagger to honor the old art of coptering
>>
>want to farm up focus on sortie 3
>lvl 80+ corpus with extra shields
>no problem, giant blue bars mean nothing to stealth finishers
>move around, sneak attacking things with channeled toxin damage to bypass shields and quickly oneshot them
>remember being able to finally use stealth finishers on MOAs like two weeks ago
>sneak up to chickenlegs
>no prompt
>fine I guess they un-fixed that
>channeled stealth attack doesn't kill it unless you hit fanny pack
>can't even use covert lethality
>sneak up to corpus tech
>literally has 68k HP
>has 12k shields before sortie modifier
>init stealth finisher
>shields take chunk of damage
>blue number pops out
>hp untouched
>fine I guess finishers are broken and don't ignore shields at all now
>stealth melee toxin not enough to oneshot unless all converted to finisher damage
>covert lethality probably doesn't even work since it uses HP to decide damage to deal

tenchufags btfo again and again and again, why even bother having stealth anything in the game if you just stealth nerf it constantly?
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>>126603321
Is that treason I'm hearing?
>>
Atomos: is it good for anything at all? I mean, radiation effect on a load of enemies is nice, but it seems like mastery fodder.

I mean the Amprex used to be good and all that but now that Amprex is ded, is Atomos doubly ded?
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>>126603865
atomos and kulstar best secondaries
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>tfw hate arcane storm helmets appearance more than anything in the game

I hate this piece of shit, but the arcane man.
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>>126603930
How can you hate it? Pretty much his best helmet
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>>126603930
I feel the same way with arcane aura
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>>126603957
Doesn't suit what im going for.
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>Got a valkyr, a loki, and a nyx
>Got a tonkor, broken war and a galatine
I have the beginning of endgame shit, I'm out of slots and I want more shit. Only direction forward is Towers, Derelicts and Sorties for platinum or worse, ponying up actual cash. My friends do play but not as much as me and I don't want to go about finding parties of randos.
I feel like if I do either of those my enjoyment of the game will plummet.

What do?
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>>126604139
Towers for parts to sell for plat, for more space of course. Sorties also work, but the likely hood of you getting something worth value is bad sometimes.
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>>126604139
Grind Towers and Derelicts for stuff to sell for plat
Get Sorties done for stuff to sell for plat too
Buy color palettes, skins and cloaks so you can look cool while grinding
Wait for weight sliders to be implemented so playing Valkyr isn't such a waste
Welcome to endgame
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>>126583781
Whatever she does you can do with other frames and with less effort.
so yes, she is useless, ignore Saryn fags.
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>>126604392
Yeah, useless, just like 90% of all frames.

Because fun is never relevant.
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>>126583959
>https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/585924-whats-this-for/#entry6634780
fucking Letter 13
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so close
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>>126588631
why do you care
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>>126588804
>>126588991
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>>126604608
>should have 666,660 not-dying points
>only have 1326 not-dying points
who thought this was a good idea
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>>126590537
Forum shitter
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>>126604827
Naw. Only time I've ever used the forums was to tell them that the pota10o was a terrible, terrible idea.
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What weapon should I slap onto my carrier prime?
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>>126604914
Tbh i don't like them but it does explain how the player can be in control of multiple different warframes. I just don't think they implemented it well at all, they could have done much better with it
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>>126605075
Vacuum, vitality/ shields mods, regen and guardian.
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>do about 30 vault runs today
>only mods worth mentioning were 2 BRs, 2 NMs, and 1 TF
>Still no Heavy Cal

I'm fucking MR 19 and I have gotten every single vault mod multiple times but not 1 single fucking Heavy Cal.
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good DEAC Saryn build anyone? I'm currently rolling with this one, but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong
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>>126605075
Sweeper prime.
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>>126597349
Omega Frost = Manchild banned by Rebecca
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>>126605338
I've got one for you. Just 50p, 10o.

And remember, account seeds don't exist ;^)
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>>126605251
You fucked up, anon
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>>126605581
On carrier prime? Nah. That things there just for sucking up drops, nothing more.
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>>126605143
I enjoyed the second meme and tatah questline as I played it but it was stupid as shit at the same time. Now we get reverse stands?
Also just had a randoms do a mission for me while I was AFK. Should I feel bad?
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>>126602825
It's treason, then
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>>126605636
No. I do that in survivals all the time cause this game bores the shit outta me usually.
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>>126581082
9598714699967480170
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>>126605372
>Saryn
>Redirection
>No Vitality / Rage / Regenerative Molt
Range is more effective on Saryn than Strength, you don't need P Flow either since you won't need to spam Spores.

Molt will help you tank, generate Energy thx to Rage/Vitality.
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>>126605626
He asked what weapon, not what mods
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>>126605784
And sentinel weapons are irrelevant at best, so who cares
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Anyone need a dera vandal receiver and has stock?
trading chat is useless
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Galatine: mastery bait or OK weapon?

Burston, same question.
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I havnt done my Loli quest yet, what should I pick so I don't get shafted?
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>>126605784
Didn't even read the word weapon cause i saw carrier. Oh well, sentinel weapons are near more useless than oberon cept helios' weapon.
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>>126605978
Zenurik
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>>126605940
Galantines pretty dope

Burston has a prime version though
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So if seeds change every time we start up the game, could restarting the game be a way to 'shake off' a string of bad drops?
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>>126605978
Zenurik or Vazarin.
>>126606076
That's the new theory. We'll see how it goes.
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Built Viper, sucked. Built another one and made Twin Vipers for the mastery, way more fun, but still kinda sucks. Is there a decent build for these for higher tier content, or should I just sell them to free up a slot?

I have the same questions regarding Akbolto.
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>>126605757
Thanks bro! So I quess 4 spam doesn't work anymore? How do I play her now?
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>>126606107
>>126606038
Why not 10000 dps laser?
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>>126606071

Is it worth keeping Galatine even if I already have Scindo Prime?
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Why does this tileset make my color's more grey
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>>126606163
>tfw picked madurai
Don't fall for it, it's more like a 100 damage laser
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>>126606163
>10000 dps
>dps even mattering
you're going to spend 3 minutes waiting for a shitty laser to charge just to use it for a few seconds? what do you think you're going to accomplish with that
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>>126606271
>>126606163
the lazor is actually good
unless you meet with high armor enemy or sortie or eximus or anything that would be the primary target for lazor
does wonders in t4 sabotage tho
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>>126606239
turn color correction off
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>>126606239
Cuz DE a shit and im going to use CE for proper seeds
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>>126606271
Fug. I went with Zenurik because I saw the void damage spec and went "6k of pure damage? fuck yeah" Then found the hellish grind for the lenses/focus and regretted not picking the laser or the heal one.
>>126606324
Annihilate a boss like the juggernaut or a wave of stupidly tanky enemies with a sweep or two?
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>>126606442
It is off, it only happens in this tileset
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>>126606481
In addition I traded a Neza systems blueprint for a Madurai lens. On a scale of 1-10 how bad did I fuck up?
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>>126606510
just stop being so autistic
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>>126606151
No, 4 is awful, probably the worst ultimate ability in the entire game.
They massively nerfed the damage and range on it.

If you wanna be effective with Saryn you have to pick a weapon which can proc all of your spores at once like Sonicor / Ignis / Hikou Prime with Concealed Explosion.

The whole map will be cover with Toxic / Viral proc and die slowly.
Your 4 is a panic button which can stun ennemies, letting you time to recover with your Regenerative Molt.
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>>126606596
you best be joking.
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>>126606635
So I place Molt, place some Spores on it, detonate them and then detonate procs on the enemies with Ignis/Sonicor?
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>>126606481
Apparently the zenurik upgrade for damage os better than madurai because it deals similar damage as well as bastilleing them

Madurai really sucks
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>>126606472
>CE
no anon don't do it
they autoban you if you open cheat engine
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how do i nova at draco properly?
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>just realized I don't have frostbite, jolt, or scorch
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>>126606870
For max damage, Molt with spores on it.
But you can just Spore one ennemy, burn him with Ignis (build with Gas) and spread it instantly.
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>that one excalishit that kept meleeing a Phorid
W E W
E W E
W E W
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>>126607069
Jolt is the only annoying one to farm
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>>126607069
Run spy missions until your eyes fall out, you'll get them. I'd offer you my own but I'm going to bed soon. Ask around, they're really common.
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>>126607249
Yeah, if you wanna rumble with Phorid, you've gotta be packing a catslut. Or the King Of the Mountain McSlapYoShit Esquire at least.
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>>126606271
I got the flame thing for it, its alright now. They burn for like 2000 damage a tick on top of the 200 damage laser, and it lingers a bit, achieving true 10k dmg. This was in Sortie 2 btw. Madurai has the potential to be great CC/DPS, all the damage just needs to scale, be dialed up, and be untyped. At its state right now, its only mediocre panic damage while your Warframe chills and recovers, or low armor slaying.
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>>126606980
What if someone creates a CE for body sliders
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>>126606723
Not sadly.
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>>126607565
THIS PLEASES THE INTERNET

MAKE IT SO, NUMBER ONE. I COMMAND IT.
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>>126606139
I had and sol wealth twin vipers. Twin grakatas and aksomati are way better imo. As I recall vipers have pretty bad accuracy in comparison.
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>>126607889
Speaking of which, What would be the best of the machine pistol secondaries? I'm guessing Twin Grakata, though I'm liking my Aksomati quite a bit.
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>>126608143
I haven't gone through all clan weapons yet but it looks like grakatas and aksomati are the best choices available. Furis with it's new loka mod if you want a life stealing gun.
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I just got another 8 fieldtron samples from Pluto. The last times I got them I thought I was hallucinating since I claimed them too fast. Did this happen to anyone else?
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>doing T4I
>suddenly halfway my liki can't roll or melee
>when I press the melee button while reloading s.tigris it just plays the reload animation over and over again

is this how de is going to nerf liki?
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33 minutes booben systems alert!
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>>126609053
>systems
I NEED THE HELMET YOU FUCKS
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>>126609145

same.tif
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>last part of The New Strange
>Simaris tells the Tenno to destroy it
>Ordis decided to scan Chroma for the Tenno to own instead even though it idolizes Simaris so hard
>Simaris got buttmad and left

man that was kind of satisfying, it's the little things
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>tfw pressing "Repeat Mission" doesn't immediately go to the starchart anymore, you have to manually go there everytime instead
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>>126601792
>>126602087
Hacked Shockwave MOAs do the same thing. Really cute.
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>>126604608
UP THE IRONS
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>>126607519
They should just make it Finisher damage so it doesn't suck, I mean they made the thing Blast and Puncture so it's a little bit better now, why not fix it all the way and make it Finisher damage
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>>126607064
1. sit on box
2. use MP with slow
3. if lensed ignore 2 and use AMD on groups of enemies
4. die because pubs cant do draco with efficiency like a clan would

>>126606404
your fucking soma prime has 40k dps

boltor has 50k dps

burstonP has 20~30k dps

a blast gun that does meager 10k dps is shit.

zenuriks umbra lance is untyped damage and does 4k to a area, its excellent
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>>126606107
>Vazarin
Why?
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>>126610745
because it's much better in team play and synergizes with several frames better than zenurik does?
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>>126610817
>>126610745
self ress and team wide instaress are okay containment skills, but its nothing to write home about.

shit happens. it just so happens that 99.5% of the time you will be useless on a hardcore team. on pubs, and when SHTF? vazarin is good and noone should mock it because of that.
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Is Atomos Good?

Because I just finished leveling Atomos and Dual Zoren to make the weapon that requires both as ingredients.
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>>126610950
Self ress?
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>>126607519
>>126606404
>>126606163
>>126606481
>madurai shitters defending their "lazors"
>m-muh laser beam m-muh lingering fire
>m-muh DPS

you see this? this numberless branch?
this thing gives you an aura that fucking shots everything around you with 9k damage per tick and it fucking scales with LEVEL not ARMOR
i won't force you to believe this nor i want to prove it with pics because DE is watching this thead

also did i forget to mention that Umbra Lance fucking hits Stalker and Sentients?
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>>126604608
>>126604806
have to wait on the prime for 666 666 :^)
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>>126611182
DE is always watching. I'm hoping to respec because Madurai is currently unsalvageable, unless they turn Blast/Puncture into Finisher. It makes sense that Stalker and Sentients get hurt by it, being Void and all..so how long does it last?
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>>126610682
That would be amazing. I have a gif of me slaughtering Sortie 3 enemies (well, slaughtering as in killing 2 MOAs) which have crazy amounts of shields, not even my Broken War could get through (44k stealth hit, all shield).
/RectangularSpotlessArcticwolf (gfycat link, fuck this spam filter)
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>farming ivara since release still no helmet
>saw how to farm nezha, nothing since only lens and dera parts

Last time I hated farming THIS much was when I had to get bacons to get hydroid
fck tihs gay game
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>>126611182
Obviously Zenurik is better, nobody said Madurai is better than anything. Out of all the damage trees, Madurai is shit. Madurai is just usable with the flame add-on, especially considering it was killing some (2) Sortie 3 enemies for me, which as of this time, have augmented shields.
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>>126610696
>soma prime
>boltor
>burstonp
>next you tell me you're using loki and tonkor

oh pls i'd like to laugh more
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>>126611749
of course not you shitter, you have to keep up with the meta, ivarass and vectis prime
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>>126611931
>vectis
>not the sudalor
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>>126611512
That's surprising. Lvl 87 and it still manages to kill something..I'm guessing you got that node that increases damage correct? I only have the Mastery one
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>>126611641
>utter shit at spy, probably the worst in my Clan
>fell in Love with Ivara the moment i see her
>almost broke my laptop when i saw her drop locations
>decided to git gud and learn how to spy
>eventually fell in love with spy and realized how fucking godly Loki is
>got all Ivara parts in less than 10 runs and spent the rest of my days waiting her to build playing spy
>now i'm the fastest guy in my clan to do Spy, reduced my average hack time from 9s to 3s after 2 weeks
>mfw Ivara is confusing as fuck to play then i sacked her and decided to play with Loki in every missions
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Why does everyone use Galantine when Scindo P w/ +25% damage skin is a thing.
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just finished the second dream, what is the best option for my vazarin lens? use it on a weapon or warframe?

i've saw you guys talking how it's best used on a damage dealing warframe, so this means Saryn and Ember right?
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>>126612206
>this shitter cant support his waifu
>this shitter cant even learn the skills of the superior ruseframe
you need to apply yourself more senpai, baka desu senpaitachi
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>>126612354
well, i mean. she looks like she can support her team but she also looks like she can do tons of damage with her bow
i tried to level her in draco but a gentle tickle from scorpion's hook killed her
when i tried to play safe with invisibility i feel sluggish and can't do any damage

seriously man i know she's good but i always end up using other frames after considering the missions
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>>126612045
Nope, just split beams and fire trail. I'm on PS4 so I can sleek stealth Focus easy in exterm, I'm just lazy, but I want those other CC procs
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>>126612469
prowl is your emergency skill, you wont use it a lot. lay invisible bubbles where you are gonna parkour, abuse sleep arrows. invisibubbles are due to a nerf because firing inside the bubble makes the guns silent, so feel free to abuse it.

any frame dies to 2 or 3 random bullets. its like we dont have a goddam suit of armor protecting us
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>Stretch + Overextended in snowglobe

Why would someone do this.
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>>126613323
obviously to get more enemies in it, duhh
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>>126613323
Miniglobe is best
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>>126613552
bombards and napalm love miniglobe

tho i have to admit its the best on most defenses as well. when placed right it will also protect against melee hits
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>>126613323
Because they don't have a max Narrowminded.
>Use Max NM on Frost
>Get compliments for cute globes.
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>>126613645
>use max NM on Frost
>go in pub survival
>people actually camp inside my tiny igloos to shoot at stuff
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>fucking Letter 13

>"the seeds are probably there to troll dataminers!"

jesus...
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Ivara perma invis still work?
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>>126613769
Letter13 does it again, senpai.
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>>126613769
>It's the number of control modules that will drop before you see a single Argon Crystal
>>
>>126613769
I'm 100% sure at this point Letter13 knows about DE's bullshit and doesn't play the game anymore. He is trying to send us a message without getting under DE's skin and face demotion.

I seen Blantant-Senpai all the time in-game but I never see this faggot. Where are all those Lotus Little Cucks that suppose to live in the Relay?
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>>126613769
>>126613816
If DE were to kill that faggot's mother, he'd say that he didn't loved her anyway.
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anything i should change?
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Is this faggot sleeking up my game?
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Why haven't you all bought my new helmet yet? I'm going to get buffed soon, I promise. Please help me become great.
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>>126613975
uinaru needs to be more shit.
>>
How do you play Vauban
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>>126613975
>using actual armor scaling graph on the bottom

10/10
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>>126614098
Because I'm buying helmets for Ash.
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>>126613854
I hope that guy thinks his little quip was worth it, because deleted post/written apology to the community incoming.
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>>126613915
If you told Letter13 to ask him to kill himself, he'd ask you how you want him to do it.
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>>126614051
And I keep ending up in this shit game because of him.
Fucking kick-vote when?
>>
>>126613975
>Vazarin
MY SIDES
>Zenurik
It's beautiful.
>>
>>126614141
you press buttons, preferably the ones with "3" and "4" on them
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>>126613915
If you chopped off Letter13's dick, he would just turn the hole into a vagina.
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>>126614330
If you told Letter13 to suck your cock, he'd ask how deep.
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what do those Bs and Cs mean?
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>>126614607
rotation. reward goes as AABC so B is 15 minutes in, C is 20 minutes in, etc
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>>126614607
>he doesnt know
>>
>>126614282
Should he prioritize Bastille or Vortex
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>>126614917
>is infested? vortex
>is shooter enemy? bastille
tho you might mix and match. wooban can work really well defensively, even disregarding tesla coils
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>want to build ivara
>i'm out of Rubedos
>literally have tens or thousands of everything except Rubedo

how the fuck was that even possible baka, where do you farm rubedo real quick??
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>>126615534
But OE is not even needed. With Stretch the pod is protected against their missiles, and the lost power strenght makes it so those guys wreck the globe faster. Is completely retarded.
>>
>>126615745
>having any power strength at all
Just recast globe every 4 seconds.
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>>126615475
Stick an extractor on Europa.
>>
What's the best place to farm plastids?
these things don't seem to drop alot
>>
>>126615745
In late T3 / any T4 your squad mates are guaranteed to be one-shot if they're not cuddling the pod. And you don't need power strength when globes still infinitely stack hp / have an invincibility period.
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>3 clanmates begged me to carry them at sortie 3
>can't say no because one of them is the little brother of my warlord
>told them to stay at spawn point and i'll do all the vaults real quick
>the brother tried to kill things with madurai focus because "i want to try the laser beam!"
>fucktards get killed on the spot
>aborted the mission and told the warlord brother "you're a piece of garbage at this game and you should consider your life worth before begging for others to carry you"
>little shit apologized and i carried them again with no problem
>later that the warlord knew everything and raised my clan rank to 2nd seat
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>>126615745
> lost power strengh
Just mash 3 anon.
>>
Is reddit tier list viable?
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>>126617141
don't trust it. tonkor is bait
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>>126617141
its okay but they think tonkor is bad
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>>126617141
i wouldn't trust anyone who thinks the tonkor is shit
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>>126595218
>>126595120
Keep reseting your seed until it looks close to the anons or has the same amount of numbers as them (a lot of X or Y numbers).
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>>126616821
>Giving a fuck about clans
poor soul
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>>126617943
that's not how seeds work anon, seed number 500000001 might be completely different from seed number 500000002
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>>126617943
>copy/paste good seeds
>set file to read only
???
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>>126590036
>>126595120
>>126595218
That's a log file niggers, it only reports what the game is doing. Changing anything in there won't do anything.
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>tennogen helmets are cash only

What the fuck. Why not plat?
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Is there any reason to keep normal frames when you have their prime version?
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>>126619520
It's actually steams fault.
Steam won't let them sell workshop items with plat.
They want to sell these for plat because they know they'd get more sales.
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>>126619592
have you finished formaing the prime frame?

do you want to use the normal helmet as a cosmetic item?
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>>126619603

Guess I will never buy one of these helmets then. $6 is too much. For $12 I can buy 1k plat and buy like 15 helmets.
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>>126619704
you can still use the normal helmet on a prime if you've sold the normal frame
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can someone try this with higher level (and possibly eximus) bombards/heavy gunners?

The glaiveP used here has no potato and no forma and was surprised by all this damage
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>>126619603
fake and gay
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Next one will be Saryn Prime or Banshee Prime?
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>>126619848
You're getting the melee stealth bonus.
Put power throw on and it will stop bouncing like that. It also gets a few other neat properties.
Don't post the results here though, please.
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>>126619848
>Xena.webm
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Is Mag Prime the worst looking of them all? It literally is the regular version with a new helmet. No effort went into it.
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>>126620020
You read my mind.
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>>126620037
LokiP, NyxP and AshP all look way worse than even their non-prime counterpart to me
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>>126619867
there was a sleek with saryn skin, it should be her and djinn
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>>126614098
Because Arcane
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>>126614098

>$6
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How do I color my Prisma calibur without being edgy?
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Why does Frost look like a crab?
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>>126620582
Roll random until you find something you like.
Doesn't everyone do it that way?
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>>126596957
Anon, buy the mod off of someone from trade, got mine for about 10p or so. 2 shot a Antimatter Drop for over 1m damage. :^)
>>126603321
Someone ingame said there was a player with over 250 formas.
>>126618940
Well shit I was just throwing in the dark on how they worked, getting a random number from 500k to 5mil or something so at one point you could get close to other's number when they constantly get a certain item.
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>>126620727
I did and it's all Excalibrightâ„¢
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>>126620582
paint it all blue OR all green
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>>126620582
xbox or nvidia

other options includes regular xcalp colors.
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>>126620869
>>126620957
He looks like he's mossy.
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>>126620582
paint him like Pepsi Man
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How does one make a good Chroma?
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>>126614505
If DE told Letter13 to eat someone shit, he would ask for a bottle of ketchup and some salt.
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>>126621559
The forums would ask for ketchup. Letter13 would say they're acting entitled by asking for ketchup.
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>Seeds
Who remembers when DE rused the Void droptables and they apologized and gave us 50 plat? Then shortly after they locked the drop tables away for good.

No? You don't remember that because all of those players have quit. None of you realize the TOXIC shit DE has done. But they are quick to shun you for being TOXIC to their ways .
>>
what have I missed senpai is game still grindy and fun?

Haven't played since excal EB nerf / ash prime launch?
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>>126621471

Go all armor and get a Sancti Tigirs for the healing.
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>>126621853
Of course we remember you snobbish cunt. That was when Sheldon 'accidentally' set the drop for some latron part to 0.25%.
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>>126622086
I have ten Arcane Graces and ten Arcane Guardians along with rejuvenate but it doesn't seem like it's enough.
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>>126622237

How high can your vex and ice ward go?
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>>126622146
Not being a snob. Comment was meant for White-knights and DE's agents that migrated here.
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>>126622226
>need CIA to decrypt that shit
I've already got a guy. He specializes in big seeds
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>>126621246
hue, nice new loka emblem

might be best to try other base colors that black. try purple or deep blue, the wine-end of red should work with a nice contrast to green
>>
>>126622226
any math super-autists out there? is there anything to what he's saying? or is it all garbled bullshit b/c DE cocks in his mouth?
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>>126613975
naramon is perfect, but it needs an allusion to the fact that strategic execution is a lie
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Some of these fan made helmets look right nice. I thought we were only going to get edge lord shit.

>that dev stream where Steve was praising the ''high quality'' work of the fans
>Scott starts laughing uncontrollably right next to him
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>>126622291
Well with Vigor, about 6 and 4 hundred? It's confusing to explain but I still take a considerable amount of damage from high level enemies and obviously you need Shields to recharge to get the armor bonus for recasting hex armor.
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>>126622638
I doubt you need to be a math super-autist to come to the conclusion that the only thing he knows about seeds from DE is how it tastes.
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>>126621853
>All this toxicity
we need the Toxic Avenger!!
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>>126622226
Most of that is correct though, except the last paragraph of each post, that's just DE cocksucking. We know mission rewards are seeded. And he can suck my dick about data minig too.

>>126622638
Most of that stuff is correct.

>math super-autists
Just knowing some statistics is more than enough for me.
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>>126622946
Void spy and Excavation missions.
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ugh i'm so fucking sick of draco, any other place to level up shit?
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>>126622686

This is how high I can go. I can do well with lvl 100 enemies from sorties. I am missing the arcanes.
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>>126623072

Stealth farm-oh wait no there isnt.
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>>126623103
I might have to get this Sancti Tigris for the heals...
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>mfw trying to level up archwang shit
>so slow
>so unrewarding

guys, how do I delude myself into thinking I'm having fun?
>>
>>126623256

Easiest weapon to level in draco. You dont even have to shoot it. Exp you get from your team mate kills fills up the corrosive procs and 1 shots everything around you.
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>20 minutes until Sortie reset

So hyped to get more Madurai lens. I dont even want Legendary Cores. I hope I never ever get one.
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>>126623523
I do.
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>>126623408
No, If you get double xp go to that Uranus archwing intercept and lvl your shit before the booster expires.
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>>126623582

No no anon you don't want a Legendary Core. You HATE Legendary Cores. Getting one would ruin your whole day.
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>>126623201
>just forma'd my loki 3 times while talking with a friend
>didn't press 2 until it was level 20 each time
>stealth farming still somewhat viable
>>
>>126623636
no
my day can only be improved with
you
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>>126623523
>I hope I never ever get one
Kek MEME BEAM FOR EVERYONE
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>>126622226
Seeds are not the closest to true randomness. Gathering entropy from user inputs, disk reads and writes, and everything else will make it closer to true random.
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>>126622946
we got 3 tiers of void interception missing for starters
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>>126623974
That would require effort though, DE is allergic to that.
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>>126624042
There are libraries for it but I guess that would be too much effort for them as well.
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>>126624134
>>126624042
YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES A GOOD GAME!!!
YOU ADD WEAPONS AND FRAMES UNTIL IT GOODENS!!
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>>126623103
What weapon are you using here?

And would a rejuvenate aura along with the drift that amplifies auras be any good for him?
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>>126580838
>read reply to this post
>what's Thunderbolt? Must be good then
>to the wiki
>(Use with Caution) seems familiar
>I think I got a mod with that text yesterday in ODE
>check mods
>sure enough, thunderbolt
Yipee, I have a habit of trashing mods i don't think will be good, too.
>>
>get space doge
>rank it to 30
>send it to lotus (euphemism for euthanasia)

Just like real life!
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>>126624042
>>126624134
You know what would require even less effort?
Generating a new seed every time you start a mission. With that's it's random enough you'd have to get an astronomically big data set to notice anything.
But no, hell no. This is what our spaghetti engine has been using for the last 10 years, why change it? Just hide it further in.
Fucking faggots. What is so bad about an actual normal distribution FOR EACH SESSION not OVER ALL SESSIONS REEEEEEEEEE
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>>126624274

No rejuvenate because I am too lazy to forma him again. Will do it when I get the arcanes but yeah its a good idea to have all that.
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>>126624648
Generating new seeds after every time you get a reward or something would also work.
>>
Seeds are fake. Stop talking shit about DE you ungrateful pigs.
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>>126624648
>>126624753
But anon, that would mean the minority of people that simply can't seem to get item X (because they repeat the mission over and over without restarting and use up all their keys) would be smaller and the vast, vast majority would be within ± 3sd of the average like it's supposed to be.
Think about it. People with a good seed that get lucky don't repeat the mission so they never notice their seed. People with a bad seed that don't restart repeat the mission a disproportionate amount of times.
If we plot this our normal distribution is actually shifted towards the "unlucky" side as those people simply lock themselves into a bad distribution.
DE at its best.
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>>126624274
Bumping this question.

Is it worth having the aura boosting drift along with rejuvenate for Chroma?
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>>126625186
weak
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>>126586505
>Spy Grineer
>The consoles somehow make a massive fps drop to me
>Making it the hardest
>Luckly the last one is goes well
>Then lotus wants me to kill everyone
>0/302
JUST KILL ME NOW
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>>126626926
>Setting off all the alarms
Lol shitter
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>>126626926

You have to set off every alarm to do that. You must suck real hard.
>>
What are the sortie mission types for today I don't feel like logging in just yet.
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>>126627252
spy rescue interception grineer
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>>126627173
>>126627038
Huh... Really? Well, I didn't know that. I wanted to take my time to stealth kill them to get focus points. Man, I do suck.
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>>126580930
I just got a thunderbolt the other day and don't even use bows. Is it good or something?
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>tfw you picked Madurai
>tfw you know you'll keep getting Madurai lens from sorties
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>>126586505
>My 3 IRL friend will just take me for the ride and clean up everything while I solo everything as Loki again
Feel good man
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>nezha chassis
HERP
>>
Latron prime stock never ever...
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>>126627643
Same here. You're not just coming out of a mission that I made extremely boring by chance?
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>>126627643
you the loki nigger?
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>>126627865
Not sure, I was Valkyr(didn't want to get team killed) and played reviver while nova and ashes were running around.

>>126627969
na
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>>126627982
Ok so not my squad. I had nova, frost and ash none of which had to do anything because I brought mirage.
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>>126627336

Thanks.

And egh, they really fucking like Grineer Interceptions.
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>>126628169
Yeah, no. Mirage is what I usually bring, but I don't trust other players. /wfg/ and life taught me everyone's an asshole.
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>>126628169
I had a rhino and liki. The rhino was more useful than this faggot. Rhino actually used roar and stomp. No decory or disarms.
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>>126625186
Go back to leddit.
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>>126625186
yo letter13 hows that 18 inches of disappointment treating you? I know you stickout for the cock.
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>>126628293
I was pleasantly surprised by my squad. I told them they could stop killing things and I'll just keep stuff blinded and they did.
Was really boring but I was eating so this was very relaxed.
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>>126627038
Isn't this normal? I fucking hate the grineer ciphers..
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>>126628687
>go sortie with friend
>take blind mirage
>he takes disarm loki
>pub
>assume shitters who we instruct not to kill
>instead get chill ivara and another blind mirage

except for the ivara killing a few things, but then ressing us if we went down, it went very smoothly and was very boring
>>
https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/586093-nezha-is-the-best-new-frame/

>Nezha new best frame because it's nothing to nerf
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>>126628687
>>126628905
Is this the first sortie where you don't actually need to kill a single enemy?
Someone do a pacifist run and post screenshots.
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>>126628687
That's why I like zenurik so much. After the first round of an interception, you can spam prism and keep shit blinded even if you have idiots on your team bladestorming around all the time.
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>>126628415
Been seeing alot of this lately. Alot of Loki's doing jackshit, no disarm, no decoy and whats worse they go down because they aren't invis.

Just what the fuck are they doing

>>126628795
No its not.
Git gud
>>
Is the Kulstar worth potato's and forma, /wfg/? I haven't played the game in over a year, just getting back in, and just finished maxing this at 30.
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>>126629020
you don't need to kill a single enemy in any of today's
>>
Skills you wish would change.

Make Chroma's 1 scale with elemental mods on primaries while holding it switches your element. Also make his 4's damage scale with damage and crit mods on sentinel/kubrow.
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>>126629068
With maximum cooldown reduction I can activate it at about 40% during the first round. Really smooth, really boring but I'm not gonna complain.

>>126629103
Kulstar is great and recently got a buff, you can now revive 4 times per mission for free.
So yes, use it. Love it, hate it.
>>
good for proccing spores on an attica.
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>>126629174
Change all of Oberon's skills so they're not complete garbage
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>>126623523
Go to hell for cursing me
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>>126629227

Thanks. And while I'm asking and Anon's are feeling helpful, whats a good Nova Prime build? Those 3 V slots seem out of place on Nova, as didn't she need mostly - or D slots?
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>>126629174
Make Ivara capable of at least sliding when invisible.

Just that, I have no problems with her not being able to sprint or BJ, I just wanna enjoy my Mario 64 sliding in certain tilesets without decloaking/getting 1-shot
>>
>>126629420
MEME BEAM FOR EVERYONE
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>>126629081
leeching. Need to come up with a strategy to shut these fuckers down.
I assumed the liki is from here since it had a tonkatonka combo
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>>126629623
why? There needs to be some drawback to being pretty much perma invisible. Even now you can sleek the restriction by chaining jump rolls and double jumping while in air.
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>>126628795
No.
Sorties always give you full ciphers. You can literally always just do this. You can even make a macro for it if you think it's hard.

>>126629623
Oh but Ivara can BJ while invisible. Feels amazing too.
I'm actually serious.
>>
>>126629420

kek
>>
What's that one weapon that isn't all that popular but still holds a place in your heart.
mine's the torid
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>>126629945
Burston Prime.
I'm a sucker for burst fire guns and burston is the only decent one.
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You think there will ever be a timedunderwaterarchwingrescue mission?
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>>126629758
Just made a video to illustrate.
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>>126630072
Just so you know, you can actually bullet jump too, but only straight up (at least I can't manage to stay invisible any other way)
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>>126629945
Grinlok
VastoP

>both severely underperform
>both have massive stat issues
>stuck 5 forma in both of them anyway
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>>126629758
>>126629761
yes I'm aware of all that and since she can already go very fast anyway I don't see the problem with being able to slide.

I'd even be okay with more drawbacks at that point but oh well, she's still an awesome frame and my new main by far, don't feel like being picky today
>>
Can somebody here sell me a Nezha System for a non-BS price?
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How do I build Rhino?
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>>126617231
>>126617614
>>126617663
>>126617141
Heh? Since when did Reddit think it was bad? Why do they think it's bad?
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>>126630338
In the foundry.
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>>126629420
I'd even take shitty fucking lenses, this is goddamn garbage.
>>
doing second sortie with Ivara as I never tried go slow with her

hostage in first cell, sleep arrows on tanky wardens, invisibility arrow on rescued bugger, works well

it can't go on wires so we slow

hostage sleeks below the floor beyond enemy reach, I watch circle jerk of Grineers trying to shoot her

I rush to the exit

I tried to play your game DE because you don't

I will never go full shitter normie again
>>
>>126630229
I just don't like the fact that every time a new game mechanic is introduced that has a speed penalty as a drawback it gets watered down or exploits to circumvent it are conveniently ignored. Ffs we don't even have a single corrupted mod affecting speed negatively despite the hobbled key.
>>
Whens china making a lu bu or guan yu frame
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>>126630396
because it is
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>>126619854
He's right, because they use Workshop Steam wants a cut, like with anything else paid on the workshop. They're trying to figure out how to get it for plat only so they can goy every platform.
>>
I can't wait for them to release another slow as fuck status weapon!
One like the Daiyku!
Or the Grinlok!
Or the Twin Basolk!
Or the Miter!
Or the Lacera!
>>
>>126629945
Tetra. Gotta love dem plasma guns.
>>
>>126630692
>hating on the lacera
I at least thought the average /wfg/ anon had some taste, but it looks like I was wrong.
>>
So what even is the concept for the next frame?

There hasn't been anything at all so far. Any design council goys here that can share anything?
>>
Did they just stealth nerfed limbo? or it was just a sortie thing? i picked him up for the corpus spy sortie of yesterday and i couldnt even use the elevators while rift walking
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>>126630801
corrosive procs aside, it's shit.
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>>126629945
my pair of fangs still modded for damage 1.0 and melee 1.0. i could never get rid of them.
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>>126630845
Would not be surprised if we had only 4 more frames before an "official release" and they start shitting out the primes and umbras.
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>>126629945
Aklex. Carried me through all of DEAC while I still had fun with this game. They still are my favorite weapon but I don't use them anymore because almost everything is better, which makes me sad.
>>
>The Rapier is a slash weapon
HAAH WAAW

TENNO RAPIER
Mastery Level: 6
Weapon Slot: Melee
Weapon Type: Rapier (it is actually classified under Swords for some reason)
Attack Speed: 0.883
Physical Damage: 65
Impact: 6.5
Puncture: 6.5
Slash: 52
Critical Chance: 10.00%
Critical Multiplier: 2.0x
Status Chance: 20.00%
Polarities: Zenurik (1); Naramon (1)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/3yetdg/12242015_datamining_requests_my_response/
>>
So I got both the Mios and Lacera but having two of the same weapon class is silly.
Which do I keep? I was thinking Lacera since it can status alright.
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>>126627806
>Latron prime stock
But is still there
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>>126631129
65 base damage?

wait what teh hell is that attack speed? its a sluggish rapier?

nigga this aint ready, and its a status weapon so we know it sucks already
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>>126631129
It's like DE is retarded or something
>>
>>126631129
what

but

DEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>126631129
>slash
>almost no crit
>fucking status weapon

I know the people at DE are fucking incompetent, but this is too much.
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>>126631245
that attack speed just means it's slower than 1 in it's class, we don't know how quick it's animations are
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>>126630692
>>126631129
SLOW
AS
FUCK

STATUS
WEAPON
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>>126630621
>not using Ivara to guide tonk straight into face.
Also, its a heavy armored enemy bordering level 200. What the fuck did you think would happen?
>>
>>126630692
>>126631129
It's like fucking pottery

Why must they make the rapier of all things a slow, slash, low crit, status weapon
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>>126631505
you guided that shitpost right above your head :^)
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>>126625745
Bumping this
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>>126631129
>Rapier
>not crit
>Rapier
>slash weapon

I simply can not comprehend this amount of stupidity, not even from DE.
>>
>people care about melee

/wfg/ sure went into the shitter, sewers would be proud.
>>
>>126631683
no you take that shit if your pubing with the only
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>>126629661
Yeah its pretty fucking infuriating.
Alot of them CONSISTENTLY go down during rescue missions.

And they NEVER use the fucking invis, its fucking insane.
>>
>>126632002
What?
>>
>>126632119
CP, sry been up all night
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>>126631987
Melee is a cosmetic accesory. I only want the thing to not be mounted on my back but stylishly on my hip and look good.
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>>126629758
>There needs to be some drawback to being pretty much perma invisible.
why? loki and ash can run with no drawback you fucking cum eating forum shitter.
fuck off.
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>>126631601
FUCK you got me
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>>126632246
Loki and Ash invis are badly designed. They detract from gameplay instead of adding to it.
Ivara is a well designed frame that would fit into a much bterr game.

If this was a good game that I'd play for fun I wouldn't want abilities like this but since it's not I'll take any broken shit I can get.
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never ever

I just want to slide
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>>126632424
>If this was a good game
if this was a good game it wouldn't have came from canada
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>>126631987
I got my hopes up that the rapier might be fun to use for some reason
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>>126632569
Why is Canada hated so much?
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>>126632690

DUDE
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>>126632737
CATALYST
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>>126632835

LMAO
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>>126632737
>>126632835
>>126632852
W-what?..
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>>126632898
>he doesn't know
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>>126632941
pls tell
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>>126633068

>he really doesn't know
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>>126632424
exactly my point.
it's not a goood game, it's full of cheap shit like the combas and the nullifriends, aimbot grineers,"fuck you" bombards and insane and broken enemy's scaling.
so no, i don't want any "drawback" you faggot, leave that shit to PvP.
>>
Just finished the second dream quest. What tree should I go with?
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>>126633068
>he's actually unaware
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>>126633108
pls tell
pls
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>>126633220
Zenurik

unlimited energy
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>>126633237

Do you really want to know?
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>>126633220
Madurai's the way to go senpai
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>>126633220
see
>>126613975
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Is Sleekwing still the biggest waste of potential content?
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>>126633383

Today's sortie gave me a fucking madurai lens, still zero Nezha parts, only lenses and Dera parts...

Why do I even still have this game on my hard drive anymore...
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>>126633798
absolutely.
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>>126633798

Watch DE waste time developing Archwing PvP
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>>126633863
>madurai
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>>126633996
DELETE THIS DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS
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>>126633863
have an extra nezha helm and im trying to trade it for at least a chassis but nope everyone has a helmet
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>>126633996

Hmmmm
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>>126633863
>mfw i stopped playing entirely since the pota10o lore was revealed.
the sorties and focus affinity bullshit didn't help tBh
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JUST GET IN THE FUCKING WARFRAME, TENNO
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>>126634164

I have an extra nezha chassis and I need that helmet.

IGN Noja87.
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>>126633996
>>
>start playing again after a break
>Warbros are spouting memes I don't recognize
Help me catch up /wfg/
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how do I go faster, without other frames?
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>>126634598

Post webm
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>>126634598
play volt instead
or nezha, that fuccboi is fast
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http://contest.mmosite.com/index.php/activity/sendkey/warframe_kyroptera_syandana_code_giveaway

merry christmas faggots
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>>126634407
sure i will be there in a jiffy.
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Sigh
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>>126605372
>>126605757
>>126606151
>>126606635
>>126606870
>>126607105
Stretch is useless, the slightly increased radius on the spore spread is nigh-meaningless. You're fine with just an OE; replace stretch with streamline. Or Steel fiber if you feel you're too squishy.
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>>126629761
post macro pls
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>>126634929
I envy them, they figured out how to beat the game
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>>126634929

>tfw your friends beat DE but you didnt
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>>126634778
Thanks, anon.
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>>126629945
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>>126635096
>when you put down the game and refuse to play it... only to have a friend pick it up and urge you get back on
>>
>>126634979
Oh, also, Hikou + toxic damage + Concealed explosives is absurd for spore spreading.
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>>126629945
Phage
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>>126635208
>nerf to ammo/viability
>power creeped
>nerf to visuals
>power creeped more
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>>126634598
You're missing bullet jump mods. They don't increase just damage, they increase the speed of bullet jump as well.
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>>126634817

I can finally build fucboi frame. Thanks.
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>>126635467
>mfw everytime I hear the word power creep when its dealing with Warframe

The term lost its meaning when shitters kept using it for things they don't like or refuse they just suck at the game.
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>>126629945
Phage and AkVasto, the later is terrible but I love how it looks.
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>>126635781
Here it applies as weapons came out that also did masive aoe damage with only pros and no cons, no reason to pick it over another gun
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Does the limbo animation set let other people tip their hat somehow?
or do they just do the motion with no actual hat tipping
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>>126635971
m'lotus
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>>126635971
No hats.
>>
>>126629945
Flux Rifle and Convectrix

I just love the sound of baddies snapping in two that no other weapons can offer
>>
>>126635971

Terrible frame. What were they thinking?
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>>126635971
What hats? Do you want them to rip their heads off then reattach them like some retarded zombie? because that would be hilarious if DE had fucked it up
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>>126634778
>The worst syandanna
Welp, at least it's free shit
>>
>>126634778
thanks anon, bat wings are nice.
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>>126635687
Complaining and shitposting on wfg really paid off grats
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>>126634778
Thanks fÄ…m
>>
>>126634778
thanks m8
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>>126634778
ty senpai
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>>126581082
2.427 Sys [Diag]: SRand seeded with: 18053720915135875326
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will i regret this?
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>>126634778
ty senpai
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>>126636874
Yes, the completionist inside me regrets selling the Gorgon Wraith already.
>>
>>126636874
you will miss them.

their greatest reward is, however, the slot they came with. sell them.
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>>126637001
but the gorgon wraith was a good gun, prisma tetra is shit, prova vandal is shit and machete wraith is shit
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>>126637205
They might be shit, but they're exclusive shit.
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>>126634778
5 keys is enuff 4 me
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>>126637407
>exclusive shit.

who cares.
Shit is Shit.
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>>126635630
he's using mobilize
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>>126637790
>Not going for 24.2% Bullet jump
Okay.
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>>126635630
my firewalker is only 8/10, I need more cores to max it so for now mobilize's 20% is the best I can get

>>126634701
I want the fuccboi for maximum slide but I can't get his fucking systems
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>soloing sortie, minding my own shit
>accidentally prowl this

I love my Ivara
>>
Tekko or Kogake?
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>>126638308
>tfw no drawfag to draw nezha covering lewdly naughty bits with a "caution: slippery when wet" sign
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>>126635781
yeah, and then theres proper use for it that shills attempt to hand wave away as shitter ramblings
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why
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>>126638828
Let me guess, this post is a Forum-shitter? LOL
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>>126638938
trade them
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>>126639021
I need to sell mine so I can buy systems, but nobody seems to want to let them go for less than 100
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>>126638572
>tfw no drawfag to draw anything warframe related
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Is Hek still good?
>>
>>126639240
yep, won't be that good for long though so you better use it till you can
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>>126639240
ofc.
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>>126633402
>Madurai
That picture is extremely accurate
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>>126638514
is that stance somehow valuable? i have like 7 copies of it
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so what guns are you using on Ivara?
i think i relied on Loki's hushed invisibility too much and always end up shooting SynSimulor while on prowl
and my autism won't let me put Hush on my guns because i'm afraid that i won't do enough damage when shit happens
i might try Rakta Cernos lather tough, but bringing two kind of bows is kind of dumb
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>>126631129
I refuse to believe this is true. There NO FUCKING WAY DE would make a rapier of all things, Slash + no crit + slow. If they do i hope the forum shitters actually eat them alive instead of eating this shit up.
>>
So uh, how do I build Banshee?

Its become apparent to me that you can't actually sack any of her stats, in any of her builds
>>
Is worth it upgrading the karak?
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>>126641282
no it's not

her 4 scales from primary mods

Rakta like every syndicate weapon will blow from time to time so it's no good for stealth

I use it for many high level missions though
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>>126641382
You build her, you level her, you trash her.
pic related
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>>126641382
RNG/EFF/DUR for perma CC quake Banshee

RNG/EFF/-DUR for perma CC sonar spam Banshee

STR/EFF for Sonar damage Banshee; keep range the same (or buff it or gouge it) and you can gouge duration so you can keep recasting Sonar for new enemies that you run into or that show up.

She can use every stat in different ways for different builds, so yeah, she actually likes everything but it depends on what you wanna do with her.

The most common build I see and run is perma-CC sound quake.
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>>126641282
simulor is okay, you can mavigate the vortex if you time it right

dread or somaP, they are the best weapons for artemis bow. tonkor lacks shred or puncture but who cares, tonkor is besterest.

you can navigate glaiveP. its okay and the only real disvantage is that it doesnt explode.

try to navigate kulstar too. the other projectiles will go ahead and you will still control a single cluster explosive rocket.

her invisibubble makes weapons silent. just use it instead of prowl
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>>126638043
>using bullet jump
enjoy being slow
>>
does anyone have an alliance i can join? we're a group of 3 in a ghost clan with most research except volt and knux complete, pretty active in the mornings
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>>126641382
quake will kill you. build for range and duration

shes quite crippled. silence is a subpar skill to work on a team, and i remember some stealth nerf about silence alerting enemies that entered its field.
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>>126629945
>synapse and scoliac
>for warframe its zephyr
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>>126602681
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>>126641746
Upgrading it to a Karak wraith, yes. If you mean use a catalyst my policy is to not use them on weapons that are directly inferior to another.
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>>126631129
Still not enough to make people quit. DE hasn't reached their final form.
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>>126642613
i am so happy that all the shitters actually believe the Banshee meme.
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>>126643258
Thanks senpai.
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>>126631129
>slash
>slow
>status
>low crit

Sounds more like a schiavona than a rapier.
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Any suggestions?
Fast hands and point strikes are filler because I can't max out Serration and Heavy Caliber at the moment
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>>126643328
Here's hoping she gets a rework when her skin comes out like the other frames.

>>126643516
Try to get your hands on a vital sense mod, m8.
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what's with the weird shell of energy around your frame when you slide/parkour now? it doesn't look quite right, it used to just glow on your frame
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>>126643781
Do you have the prisma chest thing on?
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>>126643781
you bought the edo chest from baro didn't you?
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>>126644136
>>126644125
oh shit you're right, I do

what the fuck is this intentional? is there supposed to be a physical shape there?
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>>126644237
>Intentional
Yes

>Is there supposed to be..

Just the nipple clamps 10o
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>>126643687
She doesn't need one, it's the best CC in the game plus a damage multiplier, prolly the best in the game too.
but hey, i am glad that no one use her, that will keep her safe from nerfs.
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>Solo rescue sortie
>Jesus christ do I really have to do this shit in 50 seconds
>get the prisoner out with 3 seconds left
>an entire army of grineer behind me, bitch dies instantly
>quickly run to the extraction get there just as they die but it still counts as a pass
Fucking hell.
>>
Can somone post a good wukong defy build?
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>>126644715
Do your own homework, Scott.
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how would you feel if loki's disarm were to be fucked with into party invisibility?
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>>126644803
>touching liki
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>>126644715
just for you
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>>126644781
>>126645015
pls
Seriously tho, anyone got a good one? I want to do shit like the guy taht went 80 min with him
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>>126622946
All that make up to cover dem bags
all dat bra padding to cover dem triangle titties
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>>126644387
The skin WILL draw attention to her
People WILL voice their demands for a rework/nerf
Whoframe WILL get nerfed, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>126645227
you know I'd still fuck Nezha. I mean sure he's got sharp teeth but hey I'm gonna fuck that. and that tongue can probably do wonders.
>>
>>126643516
Get rid of thermite rounds

Get a vital sense

If possible, get a primed fast hands
>>
How do I build Frost for Infested defense/survival?
>>
>>126645616
you don't.
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>>126631073
aklex prime when
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>>126645616
I guess you could spam avalanche maybe?
>>
>>126645616
>Frost for infested defense/survival
>Frost
>infested
>DEFENSE AND SURVIVAL

Why do you want your teammates to suffer ?
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>>126645616
largest globe and recast it so it pushes them out instead of meleelng them
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>>126645616
By bringing Vauban

Here's a nice Infested D and Excavation build
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>Build saryn
>what i expected
>Decent AoE
>Molt is similar to loki's decoy
>what i got
>AoE has to be setup lot faster than expected
i shoulda just used frost's avalanche
>molt is sorta the same but enemies can still target you
At least i've got eye candy i'll never even look at.
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>>126645616
Ice wave impedance

High Range
Moderate efficiency
High Duration
Sack Strength

Grab the augment mod for icewave, cast it over the pod every 15 or so seconds, depending on duration. Don't spam it all over the map, only make enemies directly around the pod CC'd. Range doesn't necessarily need to be maxed.

Sample pic, forgot I deleted he build, haven't remade it yet.
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>>126645616
1. dont use snowglobe
2. ??????
3. have a excelent CC/damage frame for early survival that works wonders
>>
>do pub sortie 3
>everyone is a mirage with s. simulator and energy siphon.

easy.
>>
>>126643516
How is the experience with rank 5 Heavy Caliber? I am convinced that I am alright with maxing mine but I don't have enough mods and I can't even find videos that compare low ranking HC with high ranking HC.
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>>126645694
Stop reminding me. I bitched in the forums enough in my early days and DE never delivered.
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>>126645227
>Nezha is not only a fuccboi
>He's a monster fuccboi

hnnnnnng
>>
>>126646850
Never again will they release Ak Prime weapons because of the Bronco disaster years back.

Unless its the Akvasto because everyone likes them so much.
>>
>>126646257
dont fall for the "setup the 4" trap DE made for saryn.

her miasma is a emergency skill, your damage comes from 1 and 2, with the occasional use of 4 when you need to stun everyone.

she is still quite poor, uncredibly hard to mod but can work well as a damage frame if you max duration and power. you need only some range and nearly no efficiency because of issues with her 1. the worse comes from the need of specific weapons like concealed explosives hikou prime, toxic ignis, torid, etc. they are all poor weapons that will make her terrible because they underpeform.
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>>126646427

Whats your B and A config?
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>>126641282
Tonk for reliable CC when I don't have energy for Artemis Bow. Navigator is the best, I hit 227k crits with my Tonkor and 100k+ crits with the Artemis Bow.
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>>126645089
pls respond
>>
STOP FUCKING PUTTING GLOBES ON EVERY SINGLE POINT ON INTERCEPTION

JUST FUCKING STOP

IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS.

THE NEXT FROST I SEE DO THIS IS GOING TO BE BULLIED UNTIL HE CRIES
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>>126647443
"I need to make my snowglobes bigger"
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>>126647619
When did they change friendlies couldn't shoot in?
>>
Gotta blow 2 argon crystal quick. Rubico? Sonicor? Atomos? Gammacor? Hydroid helmet?
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>>126647443
No.
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>>126647619
I also want to say that thanks DE for that sleek HUD giving clear status on the points since the first moment of the mission.
>>
>>126647443
>>126647619
i actualy like snowglobes on D

whats wrong with me?
>>
>>126647264
A is a WiP build I'm always changing
B if for memes
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>>126647756
Helmet.
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>>126647750
You could never do that.
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>>126646790
>do pub sortie 3
>ends up as a duo with retarded frost who does nothing but die 10000000000 and put ice globes on ALL the towers


thank god I was using that frame capable of CC'ing the entire map from any distance, allowing me to carry this asshole, reviving him and prevent our towers from getting capped at the same time
>>
>>126647443
>forces shitters to actually stay on the points and stop running around
I dunno anon, it seems okay to me.
>>
how to obtain focus lenses
>>
>>126647862
Snow Globes on interceptions = retarded

Snow Globes vs Infested = retarded

Snow Globes anywhere else = ok
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>>126647264
>>126647868

>forgot pic

rip
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>>126647968
Do you think they will ever realize how inadequate their choices are?

>>126647997
I heard you can obtain them from the wiki you retard
>>
>>126648020

Why is wit bad on Interception and Infested?
>>
>>126647862
D is the only excusable snowglobe on that map desu since all the enemies can surround you easily, but even so, with a range Mirage and Ivara, there's really no need for that.
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>>126647443
LET THEM FUCKING PLAY HOW THEY WANT TO, YOU TOXIC TRYHARD
>>
>>126648094
>Do you think they will ever realize how inadequate their choices are?
Yes. That's why they'll nerf mirage so she can't blind the entire map anymore.

Always expect the most retarded decission from DE.
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>>126647443
for you
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>>126648020
>interception
Kill can't enemies who are about to hack a point from long range
>Infested
Poison/Explosion Death traps and Vauban is better
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>>126648408
>>126648168
THOSE DON'T EVEN REACH THE CONSOLES
WHY THE FUCK
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>3rd Sortie
>take Catslut because I can't be assed to put in effort
>get another catslut, NyxP and TrinP
>this should be easy
>look at auras while we ride the elevator up
>Rejuvenation on the Trin
>Rifle Amp (!?) on the other Valk
>ENEMY
>FUCKING
>RADAR
>on the NyxP
>Oh boy
>first rounds is alright, NyxP keeps dying but I'm able to get her
>TrinPstarts dying a lot too on round 2
>start losing points everywhere because I can't medic half the team and kill at the same time
>other catslut goes down somehow
>both catslut and TrinP quit out
>NyxP says it's hopeless
>carry harder than I've ever carried in my goddamn life, dragging the Nyx to her feet and recapping all the points
>win round
>final round
>other catslut rejoins, unsure if they just got DC'd or had actually purposefully quit and matchmaking just threw them back in with me when they tried for another squad
>proceeds to die no less than three times on the final fucking wave
>more than the Nyx, who goes down all of once, and that was trying to get her up
>win
>get another Dera Vandal Barrel
>mfw

At least the Nyx recognized my work and thanked me for carrying her sorry ass.
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>>126648701
That is what happens with rampant spoonfeeding; They're told something is a good idea and they stick to it religiously which leads to idiotic examples like tiny globes in infested defense.
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>>126647935
I could swear doing that a year back, oh well, maybe it's a different thing.
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>>126648125
You have to be able to shoot enemies from far away on Interception as it's likely multiple points will be under attack at the same time, and snow globe prevents this.

The advantages of snow globe against infested are also heavily outweighed by the disadvantages. For one, there are very few ranged infested, and even then they have poor dps due to slow shooting speed. Thus, globe is only useful for the slow inside; but people on the outside can't shoot enemies on the inside, so it's just generally annoying. You'll see this mostly in defense missions, where infested will run inside the globe to attack the cryopod and the globe will ironically keep them safe.
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>>126648787
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Can the faction syandanas be traded?
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>go to do Sortie 2
>turn matchmaking back to pubs
>No squads
What the fuck? Are pubs unable to get past the first sortie or is everyone done already?
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>>126649568
>wanting pubs for a rescue mission
literally why
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>>126649796
Do you not remember the 6 cell mission hell?
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>>126647067
That's bull. The Hikou only underperform on enhanced armor sorties; everywhere else the combination of them going off and the spores going off is more than enough to wipe entire rooms.

You don't max duration, you keep it at anywhere from 60-100%. Saryn just wants more range and a little bit of power and efficiency.
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>>126644492
Go Limbo, phase the rescue.
I couldn't use the control panels while phased though on the Sortie.
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>>126637674
You fucking cunt, I didn't get a key because of greedy shits like you
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>>126650269
her 1 damage is affected by duration

you are either gimping hikouP by using ammo mutation or has a low DPS gun compared to fucking tonkor or boltorP
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>>126650480
Not the same anon but gimmie your IGN aswell as the reply with (You) screencapped and ill hook you up with a code
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So does mios with defiled snapdragon worth it? Farming for days is getting old... How does it performs in high level missions?
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>>126650770
>melee

doesn't help that mios+DS is kinda slow to use
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>>126650621
But you can have a tonkor at the same fucking time as the hikou. When shit gets too tough for the hikou to actually kill you use it to spread spore then switch to the tonkor. Is this really that hard to figure out?

It doesn't matter if 1 does slightly less damage because of lowered duration; you should be proccing new spores on everything constantly. If they ever actually fall of, you're not doing your job properly. The damage doesn't even come from the dot; it comes from constantly proccing the pop.
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>>126650917
Any melee thats recommended to use than? Scindo prime? War?
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>>126650424
Yeah, I discovered that on the very first Rescue sortie they did. Limbo used to be my go-to for rescues because he could just walk to the panel, open the cell, rift the hostage and moonwalk out.

Now I'm just back to Loki again because he can run to panels invis, pop them and safeguard switch the hostage to make them invuln for 9 seconds, which is more than enough time for me to get so far away that the hostage ends up being teleported again and again to me as I run.

Rest in pieces, fedora frame. You were useful once.
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>>126647067
doing it wrong.

>>126650269
doing it right

>>126650621
you don't use HP for kills, just to trigger spores, and drop bubbles fast
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>+6% EVASION
what does this actually mean? what is that stat, and where/when is it ever used? what does it do? do we have a base value per frame? is it relative to movement speed or maneuvers?
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3rd time this week ive encountered enemies spawned with the wrong permissions, resulting in an enemy that can damage you, but is treated like an ally by you, so you cant damage/effect them in any way, but they'll still attack and damage you, not as infuriating in MD, but kind of annoying in ext, where u need to abort to retry and hope it doesnt happen again
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>>126647402
Get Duration, Efficiency, Power Strength, Rage, Quick Thinking. There you, go, Defy build
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>>126651289
>safeguard switch

do people actually do this?

I just Loki, get hostage, and rush to exit. Hostage might take some damage but they almost never die, and even if they do I get to exit fast enough to still end mission

why the fuck do you need to use switch
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>>126650621
The point of the hikou isn't to do the damage itself; the point is to pop the spores. Many of them; many times a second. They each do piddling damage but if every spore in a 10m radius blows up, applies 3 more to every enemy in 40m, and keeps doing that like 6 times a second then the damage starts to add up incredibly fast.
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>>126651449
Apparently it makes people less accurate when shooting at you.
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>>126651449
It just reduces the accuracy of enemies
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>>126651570
>>126651559
So nothing?
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>>126651546
I do it as a bit of insurance in case the hostage-extract is hot. I've had occaisions where by the time I'm getting the cell open there's a heavy gunner, bombard, etc. standing behind me and they open up immediately, which makes things messy.
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>>126651559
>>126651570
It would be much better if it gave you a flat rate of avoiding damage every time you get hit.
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>>126651570
>>126651559
@ level 100 mobs become snipers, this stops this
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>>126650715
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