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Part 3 - Impending christmas

Cookie Clicker update is OUT:
http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/beta/

Try this out:
www.kongregate.com/games/Baldurans/reactor-idle

List of Idle Games:
http://pastebin.com/X9wJan67 (Not completely current)
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>>126251598

>those cursors

man that's an old version
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>>126251785
that's before factories and mines shifted place
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Step 1:
Right click game
Step 2:
Inspect Element
Step 3:
setInterval(Game.ClickCookie, 0)
in the bottom bar
Step 4:
setInterval(Game.goldenCookie.click, 500)
Step 5:
setInterval(function() { if (Game.seasonPopup.life > 0) { Game.seasonPopup.click(); } }, 500)
Step 6: endless profit.
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>>126251785
Those were some nifty cursors. I wish he'd add an option to switch 'em back. The only reason he changed it was because people were OCD about the overlapping middle bottom cursor
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>>126251943
cheated cookies taste awful
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Do any of the buildings have upgrades over 200 other than cursors?
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>>126252032
250 for everything, that's where it ends for now
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>1 oct cps
>finally got all upgrades
>all ascend upgrades
>set golden switch, get 10 wrinklers
>check in once a week, if that

later world, smell my ass
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>>126252026
Best part: it doesn't give you the achievement. :)
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>>126253210
Lame, why would you even play? Do you time-travel in Animal Crossing too?
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What happened to the "x gets y amount of cookies added to base cps" upgrades?
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>>126254330
I don't cheat in cc but I do time travel a fair amount in ac
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>>126254767
But why? The longevity is the point of the game.
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>>126254878
AC games do not last very long for me

I managed to play NL a bit longer than normal though
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> less than 2 hours into 2nd run
>Just experience Frenzy+Dragonflight
Holy fuck shit, what.
Literally what?
How did he think that was even remotely balanced? Sweet fucking jesus?
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>Ascend 1,000 times

Aaaaand I'm done with this idle trash.
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>>126255642
You can just repeatedly click the ascend button.

I don't see why people get so salty about this.
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>>126256206
>salty

Wish it was a one button spam thing.
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Cookie Clicker- At what amount of total cookies baked should I wait to reach before resetting is worth my time?
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>>126256638
10 heavenly chips

which is like 55 trillion iirc
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>>126256638
Probably at least once you can get 10 chips so you can get the dragon and really start making some dough
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>>126256714
>>126256698
Im not on the beta, I have 60 quadrillion baked on my current with no heavenly chips, if I reset and then transfer my save over to beta will I get fucked?
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>>126256785
You can import then reset, that's probably better
Also why the hell are you playing the non-beta?
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oh man krumblor wants 200 of each building. what happens after that?
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>>126256829
Because when I heard there was a new cookie clicker update i immediately began playing on cookie clicker without realising i needed to use the beta version
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>>126256923
Do it.

having two auras at the same time is really nice and quite overpowered.
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>transfer non-beta save over to beta
>get 500000 achievements i didnt earn
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>>126257028
i just got my 100th prism, it'll be a while
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>>126257028
>>126257187
Do you get an achievement for this? Otherwise I may just reset again for a huge amount of chips.
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>>126257403
Here be dragon
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Is one mind worth it with the dragon?
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>>126257643
I've just been buying elder deterrents, no idea if wrath cookies would make things more difficult
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Well I've stayed up all night and now I have enough to get lucky
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Did Orteil scrap dungeons
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>New thread

WE DID IT BOYS
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>>126258321
He said he hasn't given up on them. So expect them this time next year.
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what does Dragonflight do?
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>>126259643
Click Frenzy but stronger and more common
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>>126251598
>AHEAD of where I was only an hour after ascending with 23 chips

guys I don't think Dragonflight is what's OP here

I think it's this.
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>>126259863
nah dragonflight is still ridiculous.
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>>126259863
Dragonflight is the actual booster of HC, so no.
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>mfw you don't earn Heavenly Chips while the game is closed
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Is it time to ascend? What should I go for in the skill tree? I only got the dragon.
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>>126260426
Forgot pic
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>>126255364
wait till you get a dragon harvest + dragon flight with a cookie egg and radiant dragon aura with an activated golden cookie switch
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>>126260376
>mfw
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>>126260572
Get another round with dragonflight, at least a 100k heavenly chips are expected for your second ascend.
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>>126261115
nah, 500 heavenly chips is good for a second reset.
Use it to bring back one of the finger upgrades and you'll be back where you were instantly.
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>>126261115
That's a while away, 100k chips?
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>>126261461
Wait for another dragonflight, if you get a Frenzy one you are going to get higher than that.

>>126261236
He already upgraded the Dragon to the shipment upgrade so it would seem like a waste to ascend now.
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>>126261595
I just got a Frenzy + Dragonflight and now I'm at 1577
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>>126261672
You need the last cursor upgrades then, mine sky rocketed easily after two frenzy ones an a click frenzy one, of course, I clicked really fast though.
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>>126261786
Is there an updated wiki with all the upgrades?
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>>126261595
I literally got 2k chips within 30 minutes of ascending with 500.
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>>126262068
That's expected, but if you get more in the second, your third round will be almost done after you start it and it's going to be focused on achievements mostly, 2k is still too low and doable with a couple of Dragonflights, but I guess if you ascend with 10 HC only for the first time, it's not really going to boost that much for the second, making it necessary to ascend after 500 or 1k is reached because 10 HC is just too low.
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>>126260376
Cookie clicker is outdated.
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>>126262446
>he doesn't know about offline upgrades
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fug
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Stizg cookies when?
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>>126260376
>mfw when I use perfect idling
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>>126252484
Please give me some kind of screenshot of all your upgrades.

I'm at 300 of every single building and 500 of everything up to wizard towers with 318 upgrades out of 319 and I cannot for the life of me figure out what I'm missing.
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>>126267364
You need the grandmapocalypse upgrade
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>>126268062
>sacrificial rolling pins
>it's literally just waiting for 5 hours for elder pledges to end
>that's the one fucking upgrade I need
Holy shit.
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>>126268274
Yup, it's quite horrible.
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Why the fuck can't I click on golden cookies?
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What the fuck are these.
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>>126268976
Achievements
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>>126268976
Click the tiny cookie
And 7,777 golden cookies clicked
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>>126268274
buy the pledge, the elder covenant, then break the covenant to buy the pledge real quick again
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Should I ascend or keep at it?

Kind of getting a bit slow though
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>>126272026
First ascend?

If so, definitely.
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>>126272152
Yes first

Guess I'm doing it
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>>126272026
Due to the heavenly chip bug you should pretty much never not reset.
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>>126273415
what bug?
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>>126273993
100% CPS bonus per chip instead of 1%
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So when you've upgraded the entire ascension tree what do you spend your heavenly cookies on?
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>>126274716
Just use them to increase your CPS after you forfeit your cookies, that's it.
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what is considered a good point for the first reset?
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>>126277502
50-100, or just 10 for the dragon egg
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>>126277950
shit that might take a while
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>>126273993
When you ascend, you get your entire prestige level in chips every time so long as you have at least one new prestige level/chip.
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>>126274716
Nothing.

>>126275496
That's not a thing you can do, don't be misleading.
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>>126279020
Not in spending sense, but all the heavenly chips you get increase your CPS.
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I turned the golden cookie clicker off for when I went to sleep and it ended with halfway to HC 9.

So I guess I was wrong about it.
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When did you guys do the sacrifice 200?

I've just ascended for the first time and I got 2000 HC already within an hour. I'm guessing I should ascend now so I can reach 200 prisms quicker.
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I haven't ascended yet. I'm at legacy +110. Is now a good time? I have no idea how this works or what heavenly chips even do.
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>>126282897
Heavenly Chips are meta-currency.
You spend them to make everything better.
You are well past the point of initial reset. Do it now and get the skill in the bottom left "How to Bake Your Dragon."
The rest is mostly up to you.
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>>126283201
Okay thanks. Time to bake
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I got my first Dragon flight today.

I was not ready.
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>>126284395
Nobody ever is. On it's own, it is insane. Getting one during a Frenzy is pure glory in a handbasket.
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>>126282897
I ascended at ~115 chips and I'm at 7000+ chips already after a couple hours.

It's really OP because it happens like 10 times more often than a click frenzy.
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This is my third run...
Holy fucking shit, this I can't even believe this...
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>>126285242
This time get Octillion fingers instead for your cursor. It's pretty good
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When do I get the dragon?
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>>126285329
I hadn't unlocked it yet and was in a minor rush, so I just grabbed the best one I had. I'm not the smartest bulb in the batch.
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>>126285368
once you unlock the ascension upgrade at 9 chips, the egg upgrade appears when you hit 1 million.
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>>126285382
It unlocks at 320 cursors iirc, so take your time
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So when does the dragon show up i bought it with HC
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In Reactor idle, do boiler houses remove 18000 PER TICK? or just any time it can take a chunk of 18000?

For example I have a gas burner with 2 heatsinks and 3 boiler's per heatsink (6total), was this overkill?
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>>126287951
Just put a gas burner with 1 heat sink and 3 boilers
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>>126288047
That doesn't work at all.
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>>126288378
Worked for me. Maybe upgrade some of your things.
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>>126288047
>>126288378
Oh shit nevermind, that's weird, alright thanks.
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Why are my upgrades out of order, and how do I fix it. I think my cat pressed something on my keyboard last night but I've tried every key
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>>126288529
I've noticed this too. Some cookies just refuse to get in the right spot. Seems to be the worst when you have a new game + and every fucking upgrade is for sale
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how many christmas cookies are there? i have 7 and i wanna switch over to another event but that 2% upgrade tho
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>>126288986
That's all of em
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Is there any archive that has the old OP?
It linked to the last thread, had a shitload of scripts and game lists.

Will Orteil ever post here again?
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>>126289501
Yea just search for /igg/

Maybe, I asked him
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What am I missing about the dragon, it eats my buildings for shit benefits?
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Anyone have the old CSS script that went over the cookie?
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>>126290070
It's pretty easy to get the buildings back if you have a nice amount of chips. Also, Dragonflight ain't shitty
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>>126290070
dragon harvest is a gr8 benefit
dragon flight is retardedly good
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>>126289501
is there even an archive that re-uploaded everything before archivemoe's death?
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>>126290318
Fireden has some of the old threads but it seems like it wasn't in the OP
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>>126290226
>>126290261
Haven't gotten dragon harvest to pop yet.
Havent even seen dragon flight, what building does he eat for that?
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>>126290405

shipments
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>>126289501
>Will Orteil ever post here again?
No, someone discovered his girlfriend's tumblr and apparently that makes us all Satan.
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>It's mandatory to get Just Wrong now
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Is 1762 okay for my second ascension? I ascended at 22 last time and only got the dragon. If so, what should I get?
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remember when you had to break a world record to get a shadow achievement
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>>126291243
>wanting to be right
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>>126291302
Was the first reset worth it at that point? I have 14 and am thinking about it.
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>Getting dragon flight for the first time
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Do upgrades you tag during ascension tag with themselves when you pick them later? I keep forgetting to check octillion when I get it.

If so, is it more worth it to get kittens or prism upgrades for end game?
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>>126291527
>getting Dragonflight during frenzy
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What are "random drops"?
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>>126255364
What are the best permanent upgrades to bring with me on prestiging? I started with septillion fingers then brought octiillion fingers now I have some milk multiplier. I'm thinking the golden luck clovers to increase the amount of golden cookies that come up.

This is my first time playing cookie click though so i am unsure
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so are wrath cookies and wrinklers even worth it now with dragonflight so fucking common, at least when you're not idling?
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>>126293271
stuff like the cockies the reindeers drop
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>Haven't seen a Frenzy, or any gold cookie in at least an hour
;-;
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Did cookie clicker ever add those dungeons?
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Auras don't happen to persist through ascensions, do they?
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Finally got a pic of the shiny wrinkler
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>>126297250
What's he do exactly?
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>>126298569
he eats cookies silly
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>>126298914
compared to regular wrinklers m8
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How do I choose the best aura?
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>>126294104

No, wrath cookies fuck up your Dragonflight chances, I haven't even had a single Frenzy+DF combo since I activated Granpocalypse
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>>126298984
I figure it's close to 5 times regurgitation rate
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>>126299032
DragonFlight > DragonHarvest >>>>>>> everything else
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>>126299335
What do you sacrifice for dragonflight?
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>>126299412
shipments
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>>126299412
a virgin upon the altar of satan
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>>126299412
100 spessships
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I got a holiday switcher, what should I be grabbing from the various holidays?
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>>126301328
ERRYTHANG
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>>126301583
You're going to have to be more specific, I don't even know what I'm looking for.
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>get to the point where i'm only making .001 of a decillion every thirty seconds or so
>running off 10mil prestige with another 12mil if i ascend again

Is it worth it to reset?
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>>126301667
EASTER
A
S
T
E
R
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>>126301583
Do you lose the upgrades from the season you're using if you switch to another?
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>>126302610
No.
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since dragon harvest overwrites frenzy anyways, isn't it better to just use radiant appetite with dragonflight?
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It feels like Ive hit a slump for a while. Is there something I should be doing to speed this up?
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>>126304632
If a building is cheaper than your cookies per second, buy it.
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Better to buy buildings or to save up for a new level of Santa elf?
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>>126306270
Always upgrade Xmas stuff whenever possible. If it's wayyyyy too out of the way then buy buildings, save up cookies, and click them goldies.
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>>126306270
Buildings, santa elf is static cost, and the upgrade it gives has a scaling cost, so best to get the santa elf's with pocket change then just spend the 5mins for the upgrade.
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>>126304632

Aim to get 77 golden cookies, then get all the golden cookie upgrades. After that let your cookies get high enough to the point where you're getting max cookies from a frenzy cookie. Having all golden cookies means during a frenzy near the end another golden cookie will spawn, which typically will give you cookies, or rarely clickstorm.
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>>126306446
>>126306393

Here's where I'm at.
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>>126306578
focus on your last three buildings and upgrades for them and get lucky asap
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I have no idea how to progress either, help
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>>126306578
BUILDINGS
U
I
L
D
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Time Machines pullin their weight
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Reposting this because I spent 1000 hours in MSpaint on it
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>>126306975
My time machines are pulling a cool 4.2%, Nice.
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how do synergies work?
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uh. I don't think that was supposed to happen.

I think I got it while I was having a dragon flight, the notification disappeared by the time I finished so I'm not sure.

if anyone knows what the notification is supposed to say, tell me since I'll probably remember and will be able to confirm.
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>>126307630
didnt feel like typing out the explanation but felt like mspainting it
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Tested it out in another tab, shiny wrinklers WILL BECOME NORMAL WRINKLERS if you refresh, so if you're going to, make sure to pop them, as they have a higher rate of cookies.
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>>126307697
you get hardcore easily with high prestige levels and starting cursors/grandmas upgrade

you easily hit 1 billion before even doing anything
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>>126307923
Fuckin Orteil
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>notice Lucky! is just 10%
>idea
>idle overnight and don't spend any cookies when I wake up
>Lucky! is now my main source of income
I feel like a genius
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>>126307892
I know that but I don't see any difference or new upgrades.
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>>126308061
Thats how you're supposed to use it.
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>>126308061
you just noticed something that everyone else already knew

it's 1200x (8400x if during a frenzy) your cps or 10% of your bank, whichever is smaller, so most people are limited by their bank because saving that much is counter intuitive
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>>126308281
>>126308349
I started two days ago
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>>126308061
It's capped, keep 8400x in your bank to maximize it.
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>gotten so many frenzied dragon flights this run they're starting to become mundane
I've racked up ~515k prestige compared to my current ~33k, is it time to reset?
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>>126308497
I dunno man, I'm actually getting bored already.

not enough idling, but idling is so bad in comparison
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>>126308497
>I've racked up ~515k prestige compared to my current ~33k, is it time to reset?

It only gets more absurd from there, anon.
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>>126310848
Oh I know. I'm not new to Orteil's wild ride.

Also, has anyone else noticed that when you reset you get the number of heavenly chips you earned in your last run plus the amount of your current prestige level to spend? It's happened twice for me.
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Idk guys, you think I should ascend again? Don't think I have enough prestige from this run.
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>>126311581
You should probably wait a little longer. Be patient.
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>>126311974

>Gotta get those 500 Prisms.
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>>126312123
Who are you quoting?
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Should I reincarnate as soon as I hit 10 chips/prestige to get the dragon, or should I wait?
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>>126313548

I'd wait, around 10 is where I started picking up pace.
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>>126312368

Some anon on /v/ was trying to get his cps to the point that was feasible on one of the cookie clicker threads the other day.
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anyone else notice that every time you prestige you get your entire prestige level added to your heavenly chips. All you have to do is get to +1 then ascend to double up
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>>126314946

It's a bug, I'm sure it'll be nerfed at some point so abuse it while you can!
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>>126314946
what, I don't get it
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hey just started playing cookie clicker again, how does the price scaling with the festive upgrades work? like what makes them go up in cost if you didnt buy em yet
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>>126315316
Their cost is set at 5 minutes of your current CPS. This also means they go up in price during frenzies.
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>>126314946
whoops, I typed this out before the downtime but it wouldn't let me post so I didn't see >>126311441 already mentioning it

>>126315198
When you ascend you get how ever many levels you gained in HC, plus you get however many levels you already have. I'm getting 30 million extra HC every ascension even when the box only says like +43
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http://jamuspsi.github.io/dunno/
Found something that might be decent, a little confusing at first.
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>tfw clicker frenzy
>with an autoclicker
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>>126316295
So it's a dice-rolling simulator or something?
Pretty cool.
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I'm stumped. I have 9.2Trillion cookies, and one portal.
Should I save up for a Time Machine?
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>>126315740
>. I'm getting 30 million extra HC every ascension even when the box only says like +43
don't you feel bored already

I'm only around 5 million but everything is pretty much done and I feel so empty and bored already. Like why did I get into this for what

never falling for this piece of shit again
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Started playing exactly one day ago.
How am I doing so far?
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>>126317919
How'd you surpass me? I only have 67 hours yet 16trillion total.
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>>126318073
I dont have a life
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Buying, and sacrificing, and buying all these buildings every run is getting really tedious.
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>>126318223
yeah, the next thing toeman needs to add is a buy max button
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When should I pull my third ascension? 4000?
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>>126318787
and a price preview for buy 10
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what am I doing wrong
why is this so slow
is it supposed to take days? is there a way to import your live save to beta?
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Anyone know the chances of getting Dragon Harvest? I just bought it.
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>>126322043
The game doesn't really pick up until you Get Lucky (and all the other golden cookie upgrades) and maximize your CpS/Cookies Baked ratio.

>>126322217
I got it just about every time I had already frenzied. It's pretty insane.
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>>126322273

How do you get Get Lucky?
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>>126322461
you have to get up all night
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>>126322461

Get 77 golden cookies
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>>126322461
You need 77 golden cookies and 77 trillion cookies in the bank. Once you do, save up until you have 84000 * CpS. Get a frenzy, and you're almost guaranteed to get the Lucky cookie, which pays out 12000 * frenzied CpS, or several hours of production.
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hey why the game spawned like 5 golden cookies in a row?
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>>126322689
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>>126317770
anyone?
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>>126324768
Just focus on golden cookies. Don't bother with a time machine unless it costs no more than 6 * the cost of a portal or something.
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>>126322595
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>>126316295
Holy shit, I'm getting addicted to this one, it's not an idle but god damn.
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>>126325430
there's some slight idle elements to it, but it would be nice if there was am automatic roller you could purchase
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>>126325875
The game freezes when not focused on, so I don't think an auto-roller would really help that much.
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>>126326001
No wait, it just goes really slow
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I'm going for True Neverclick and Hardcore in my new run, if I use permanent upgrade and click golden cookies can I still get these achievements?
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>>126293769
The kitten multipliers are pretty good too.
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>>126326605
Neverclick is disabled in the beta. I found this out the hard way.
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>>126326605
Neverclicks are disabled for whatever reason
Hardcore is almost automatic after 2-3 accentions, I wouldn't even worry about getting it.
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>>126326810
Well fuck, can I still get hardcore even if I use a permanent upgrade?
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>>126326883
Yeah, just go with octillion fingers.
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>>126325875

There was a plugin for the old version that had a lot of handy features, such as making a sound for golden cookies and reindeer, telling how much bank you need for maximum golden cookie output, auto kill all wrinklers, and some cheat stuff such as automatically clicking the cookie and golden cookies/reindeer.
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>>126327104
>auto kill all wrinklers
but why
wrinklers provide a net boost to cps
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>>126327167

I phrased that improperly, it was a button that would kill all wrinklers at once. You could also set it up to kill at certain intervals.
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>>126327252
>>126327167

It was this plugin

http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/CookieMaster_%28JavaScript_Add-on%29

I doubt it'll work with the beta.
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>>126327364

It doesn't, just was blank for me.
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>>126326883
>>126327041
How do permanent upgrades work anyways? I permed Octillion Fingers but I still end up needing to buy it when I accend? on the other hand my second perm was double length on boosts, and I DON'T need to buy that.
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>>126327809
Octillion fingers should give you itself. Upgrades will still appear, but provide no benefit. Or, diminished benefit at best.
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Any scripts or whatever to auto click golden cookies/reindeer? I tend to idle a lot, so it'd be really helpful.
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First run, currently looking at 10 heavenly chips if I ascend. Should I, or should I keep going? I'm rolling in the cookies right now with maybe 2-5 minutes between each frenzy.
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>>126328781

Keep going, I'd go to around 100 or so. 10 is where it picked up for me, I'm at 64 right now and I get 1 and a bit more heavenly chip every frenzy cookie combo.
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what the fuck have I been doing with my life
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>>126329436
Stupid shit.

Play Sandcastle Builder instead, at least that's got an endgame more interesting than "click the golden cookie again".
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>>126328781
Definitely ascend right now.
You'll get a 1000x modifier.
I'm serious.
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>>126329898
Orteil never asked for a genre to spring up around his game he just wanted to make a dumb thing because he liked candy box.

Sandcastle builder is pretty good though, it actually just came back from the dead.
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Post yfw Lucky!
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I'm new to cookie clicker. Does the game still play even when you don't have it open in your browser?
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>>126331167
You need the idling ascension bonuses for that and I think you only get 80% of your CPS for 2 weeks before it goes down to 8% of your CPS if you max out all the talents.

There is also an ability that turns off cookies for a 25% CPS bonus if you aren't there to click.
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>>126331167
Not normally, but there's an upgrade you can get via ascension that allows you to do that.
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Business day is the best holiday because it increase the rate that you get (frenzy)Dragonflights right?
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>>126331167

There is a debug command that will calculate cookies when the game isn't open. Handy, but to really get the most out of the game you gotta be semi active, clicking golden cookies and such.
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>>126330275

Post yfw 2 Lucky!s in a row
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>>126331627

>tfw get 3 frenzy's in a row

pls stop
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>>126331696
>Frenzy
>Dragonflight
>Frenzy
>Dragonflight
>Nothing to spend HC on
>All achievements unlocked

Suffering.
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I still need two achievements, does anyone know what they are? The one on the right im pretty sure is X resets but I have no idea what the left one is.
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forgot the image.
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>>126332035

>Acsend for the first time.
>Get just the dragon upgrade and unable to get anything else.
>Now I have almost 1,000 more prestige levels to get
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