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/diy/ Mobius Phantom edition

AC7 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPntHe28O8

<< Update 12 Trailer >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWgl6-6lrI

<< Frequently Asked Questions >>
[ http://imgur.com/a/tvBPL ]

<< Recent Events >>

New Co-op tournament is up, Rusegriz re-run with even shittier rewards brackets and Nugget shinden again
Gold box? It's probably more Idol emblems or tickets
Ace Combat 7 has been confirmed to return to Strangereal. VR equipment will not be required to play the game.

<< Aircraft and Damage Calculator >>
[ http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/ ] (use Text to export the build into a text format)
<< Sieve's Helpful Infinity Tool (Outdated) >>
[ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B06MZz-xxtyeR05WWmF0NE4yTzQ/view?usp=sharing ]

<< If you played JP release: Your progress will not be lost if you begin using an account registered to a different region >>

<< Ace Combat website (JP) >>
[ http://acecombat.jp/ ]
<< Ace Combat Infinity website (JP) >>
[ http://ace-infinity.bngames.net/ ]
<< Project ACES twitter (JP) >>
[ https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES ]
[ https://twitter.com/hashtag/ACEINF?src=hash ]

<< Steam Group (Abandoned) >>
[ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GhostsOf404th ]

<< Old OP >>
[ http://pastebin.com/whkD5Wmh ]

<</aceg/ pilots spreadsheet>>
[ docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP07-JbjTjXkD5nQlNkC0I8WidP_AXD1K4S9jESx-Jk/edit?usp=sharing ]

<</aceg/’s guide to Ace Combat Infinity>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K3RrtoLfs089WDdEyhmBg6r7ge2j7WS-_-iXkCYOyrg/edit

Previous Thread
>>125799404

Because it bears repeating, with alterations
>AC7 Soon™
>HD Collection Never?
>PS4/PC/XBOX Port NEVER(?)
>Don't believe the statbars
>YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS LET IT DIE AGAIN
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first for any new AC7 news?
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>>126123984
Second for "Joint Assault director".
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>>126124050
third for oh fug but how bad can it be
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>>126123984
JA guy is director, Kobayashi is on for music, 20% done, they're aiming for a proper "Numbered Ace Combat Game" experience
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Time to shill the comfy stream:
http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>126124447
>Kobayashi is on for music
all I needed to know
thank you based PA
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>Gold box? It's probably more Idol emblems or tickets
>he still hasn't delete this
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>>126124812
>His solution is to frogpost when he could ignore and move on
>He doesn't expect CG part 3
Here's a (You)
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Update of progress, not really much to see here.

Might be able to finish this up tonight if painting goes smoothly.
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>>126125242
>implying I won't be getting my perfect russian princess.
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>>126125351
at least the stabilizers are on the right way

also
FALCON HAS LANDED
THEY DID IT
USA USA USA
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>>126125706
Awwww shit

HOORAY FOR CAPITALISM!
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>>126125706
God bless the capitalist system
Suck a fat one, Marx
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>>126125630
Got it on first sortie.
>expect 30 tickets until NY.
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>>126125706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAYPN-1Yjt0
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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>>126125706
So how do we implement this in Ace Combat?
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Underside complete.

Once it dries, I can put it on the stand. My first ever model, nearly complete. I am so excited.
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>>126127961
Huh, it actually came out nice
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>>126127961
>mounting the missiles before they dry up
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>>126128253
I had to finish it before Heaven's Gate finished playing.
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Alright guys, I really appreciate the support you guys gave me when I was building my first model. It truly was a learning experience, and while things didn't always go perfectly, in the end it wasn't so terrible.

Really, this is just as much a victory for you guys as it is for me.

Once I get it set up on the stand, I'll have to find a place on my shelf where I can proudly display my first Model.

Again, thanks buddies.

See you around.
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Can't we just <<Rise>> and stay risen?
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>>126128941
avoid place it near direct sunlight...
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>>126129662
Maybe someday
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>>126128941
Question, which model did you use? It was pre-painted right?

Why I'm asking is because I was the Haruka anon last thread. I want to get into another model but I pretty sure all Hasegawa models have to be painted, even shit like Pixy's wings.

Also I'm actually tempted to do another idolmaster plane now that the one /toy/ anon taught me about shit such as Softer and Setter, and because i doesn't require that much painting
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>>126125706
W-what happened?
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>>126130238
The USA's capitalist might has driven a private firm to successfully recover a rocket using vertical landing
Rocket-powered VTOL
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>>126130119
It's a Tomytec Mobius One F-4, 1/144, prepainted, expensive as shit, rare. They also made two Galm hens, a Mobius F-22, a Garuda Strikehen and IIRC also a Yellow Flanker. Everything that isn't the Mobius Phantom and the Yellow Flanker is impossible to find, the Galm Eagles are getting reissued I think, the Mobius F-22 might get reissued.
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>>126130484
I forgot: they should go for about 30 bucks apiece, if you're paying more than that you're getting scammed. Also be aware that modeling is called plastic crack for a reason. Also also I really fucking should get back into modeling again, too bad I don't have enough space for that shit.
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Man, it's really hard to get this stand on right, I'm gonna have to hold it until it dries.
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>Alect doesn't have the same prices as the other goy planes
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>>126132495
Those clever bastards have pulled a fast one on us
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>>126133594
I have a feeling they somehow forgot an extra zero, but even then it ends up being cheaper than Sulejmani's GAF-1 which is the same base cost. Right now it looks like it's about as expensive as the Knight.
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>>126132495
>New version of goyplane is cheaper to upgrade than the original
>Is only obtainable by whales who have tens of millions of credits to spend anyway

for what purpose
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>>126134727
It rewards their contributions :^)
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>>126134618
We said similar things about the Delphinus when it was released. This is a very intentional choice on their part.
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>>126127961
>>126128941
>>126132003


ALRIGHT! I found a place to put it, I'm really excited about how it turned out. Very dynamic, I think, maybe I should have posed it so it was diving down?
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>>126136308
Woops!

Forgot my pic:
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>>126136672
>all those unpainted models
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>>126136858
Well no shit, he plays fucking Guardsmen. You lose the motivation to paint the models after the 50th infantryman in the squad.
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More challenges up, AC5 nicknames & Cash/reports/tickets.
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<<Ruse>>

No because the thread is dying. Its because the Ruzegriz tourney is now live. Good luck pilots and remember to conserve your fuel. You'll need to save up for that Adler tourney/drop.
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What are the nicknames available?
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>>126139212
"Planes are expendable+ ARRx3" F-5e 100 kills
I'm used to desperate situations +SpWRRx3 Rktl X 40 kill
I won't lose another fight + 20k F-20a 70 kills
My birthday is coming up next week +PRRx3 F-14a 70 kills
We are not alone + 30 tickets FA 18F 100 kills
There pilots are not human SAAM 40

>should be Radio calls....
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>>126125630
>arcade
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>>126136672
>3 AMRAAM's
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>>126140408
What the shit, thats the sickest buddy kill I've ever seen
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>>126140585
>being impressed of the Falken's shit
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https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/679156463055450112
Apparently Alect price tag's a bug. It says something about Lv.8 but I can't make out the translation.
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>>126141335
If they fix the price, would it retroactively apply the correct cost to the user's credits for each level they upgraded?

I'm half expecting someone to post with a credit balance of -50,000,000.
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>>126142089
>>126141335

The tweet said the prices post-level 8 would be higher to compensate for the bug.
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>The Idolmaster: Cinderella Girls Starlight Stage tops 10 million downloads in three months
Haha! Part 3 Soon.
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Whats up with all the 4p rooms? people not like S ranks? Finally found a 6p and that was tight with 2 nuggets.
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>one of the music emblems is top 20 only
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>>126146427
they want personal scores over S ranks
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>>126150459
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>>126147447
This is The Goy Tourney, no two ways about it.

I'm might burn some fuel for the drop but I want to keep under that Nugget Shinden. It looks ugly as fuck and I'd feel bad taking it from some poor soul who actually wanted one.
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>>126151690
The fly in ointment will be the 3 million drop....
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>>126151690
Isn't the Shinden top 3000? Anyone who wants it can get it very easily.
I think I'll go for top 1000, myself. The emblem and the cash rewards are looking very nice.
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Skin when?
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I'm going to post lewd and no one can stop me.
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>page 10
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<< Rise? >>
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>>126157517
Let it die, like the high-waisted thong before it; ahead of its time.
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>>126157517
Risen.
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>>126157517
<<Too bad, buddy>>
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>ded thread
>ded franchise
>ac7 promo was a ruse
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<< Forever sleep. >>
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>>126158563
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>>126158618
<< Forever sleep. >>
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>>126158173
Was Yellow 4 always chocolate, or is this just artist interpretation?
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>oh yeah, Razgriz has return--
>oh btw, there's also this goyplane drop and we've just reduced prices on them, expect a lot of burners to get it
>oh and we added all the emblems for good measure
>oh and the tournament is no longer F-14 restricted
Welp.
Looks like I'll never get to Cum Historia.
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>>126159376
No restrictions was nice, I've not unlocked Chopper or Archer and my tree is Lv7. Did have a L7 JR as back up as the game needs more D.
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>>126159376
Apparently the reduced price on Alect was not intended. So now the price of it above level 8 is increased to balance out what was lost from 1-7.
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>>126159376
Don't forget that the tournament started with forced sorties.
This is gonna be a fuckfest the likes of which even Mobius can only dream of.
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>>126159978
Have the forced started? bugger, had 2 raids already.
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>>126159978
>Mobius will have a cst buff when it re runs
>it will most likely be at 875 or greater cst
People will be auctioning for this essentially.
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>>126160267
You realize that all planes over 800 cst are nerfed to 800, right? Just like all planes under 425 are buffed to 425.
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FFS all those drops! better be red boxes.
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>>126160332
standards still get stronger at those levels anon. It's only the specials that get weaker.
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>>126160371
Emblems are red boxes, confirmed. Just got a Free Filthy Erusea emblem from one.
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Is it worth getting back into AC:I?
I stopped once I unlocked Fulcrum and haven't played since. I have like 30 stocked fuel I might just burn.
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>>126161204
No, escape while you can. You have nothing to worry since AC7 is a thing.
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>>126160267
But damn, this news of a Top 20 music emblem is disgusting.
If the Mobius rerun has a similar emblem with Agnus Dei, I will literally turn into a rage-powered jet engine.
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>>126161204
30 fuel won't get you far.
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>Planefu HH drops untile the 12/01
>PS3 still dead and I don't know when it will be repaired
>I never drop things
>A-10 HH has yet to be on the ticket shop
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>126161556
>A-10 HH has yet to be on the ticket shop
but it was? Are you sure you don't mean the DT?
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>>126160332
You realize that 875 goyplanes (alect, dildomani, x49 goyna) count as 850 cost right?
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>>126160416
what the fuck are you talking about? base standard power is affected by cost. a 450 cost plane will always have a lower standard damage than a 500 cost plane if they're equal levels.
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>>126162450
Read the post again anon, that's more or less what I was saying. Actually I'll rephrase so that you can understand.

Past 800 base cst standards still get stronger with each level of tier. Specials are the ones that don't get that boost. With this we can infer that the opposite can happen with the shit you just stated. As in specials are set to be at a minimum of 450 cst, and that standards still get weaker below that.
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<<Reawaken>>
>implying we will ever die
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>>126160748
This. I just got BELKA emblem and I might just start to use it
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What do you guys think of aero elite combat academy
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>FUG
XFA 27 HH is 750 cst.... and I wasted 10 mill on a razor.
Damn it. I'm a doing a 50 fuel burn and hope I get the 3 mill drop x3.
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>>126160748
JUst got 7650 cr for a dupe... hope the Nagase is 76500!
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So there's also 1 million and 2 million drops in the pool right now.
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<< Those lines will gave birth to new conflicts. >>
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>>126161747
I missed it entirely then.
Not all hope is lost
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>>126136672
>"All tanks, follow Mobius One!"

>>126142330
>>126159803
What a load. Everyone will bring theirs to lv. 8 and it will be more than enough to steamroll anything.
Prepare to see hordes of 2500+ cst Alects
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>>126162701
Except it isn't and you're entirely wrong. Standards and specials are scaled the same, except standards get a boost from aircraft levels instead of from SPW levels.
Some planes get special modifiers that put them higher or lower tier which affects both standards and specials. e.g F-20A (425) is counted as 475-500 and will do the same damage as F-14A (475) with SAAM. It does more damage than Mig21's(375) which is counted as 425-450 with HPAA.

There's no difference between 775-800 and 825-850 because 825-850 gets scaled down to 775-800 tier.
875 gets scaled down to 825-850 damage tier and will do more damage.
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I'm too lazy/clumsy to build my own models. Convince me not to buy Hobby Master planes instead.
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>>126167647
Level 8 Alect won't be very impressive. LAAMs will be cool, but everything else will be pretty average. It'll basically be the same as a level 10 Berkut. Are you scared of level 10 Berkuts? I'm not.
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>>126167663
Then explain to me why a Mobius can 1 shot hard 22's and T-50s at level 15 with double stacked when it takes the Blaze Razgriz level 19 to do the same. There's a 25 cst difference and a world of cash to pay between the two.
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>>126169176
>Some planes get special modifiers that put them higher or lower tier which affects both standards and specials.

Because Razgriz might have a secret modifier that puts it at 750 tier like the yellow planes are 775 but do 750 tier damage. Use your head idiot.
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>>126169407
You mean like the negative 1 modifier that Mobius also has? That one right? There's a builder at the top you can use to look up everything you know. Really good for looking up everything instead of looking like a retard.
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>>126136672

Is this the allied support system in ace combat 6?
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Getting back into Infinity after a long time. Are HCAAs/SOD still shit?
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>>126165597
Yes but remember you need to get past all of those skins and 2 aircrafts to get it first. And even then the 1, 2 and 3 mil drops are probably .1%, .02% and, .003% respectively.

Good luck.
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>>126168581
>I'm too lazy/clumsy to build my own models.

You gotta be shittin' me.
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>>126170495
Nobody ever uses HCAAs except for challenges. SOD is bretty good and is a pretty common choice for Dorito shitheads.
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>He or She doesn't work for Gründer Industries.


Good luck being poor.
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>>126170835
I'm fairly certain that HCAA is the best weapon to carry to Satellite Intercept and Emergency Air Strike, and can be competitive in B7R.
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STARFIGHTER WHEN
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When is PCSX2 getting DX12?
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>>126170835
SOD still sucks compared to LAGM/LASM. Range is worse, velocity is worse, damage is worse unless you're facing a big target from the right angle so multiple bomblets will hit it. The only advantage is that you can hit multiple targets if they're lined up and you come in from the perfect angle, and how often does that happen?
>>126171824
HCAA is alright on SOLG/MD (though it's annoying constantly switching between specials and standards), but I really wouldn't want to try it on EAS. Not with the insane monster Raptors in phase three that'd take like 8 HCAAs to kill even if you could hit them, which you couldn't anyway since they dodge really well too. Fuck those Raptors.
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>>126171824
With how enemy planes behave in EAS, the only really good weapon you can bring is the one you have mastered to the point of maximum effectiveness
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>>126171824
>>126172554
>>126173121
The weapon I will take to EAS when it shows up next is the piston
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>>126170495
Remember to write what are the exact bonuses for comeback.
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>>126172402
When Bamco realizes that other F-1xx planes exist besides the F-117
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>>126173489
That wouldn't even be a joke to go against. The ECM and damage per second it has could royally screw up the Monster reds when they're in formation.
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>>126170835
Taking the Rafale is bad now?

>>126173736
Sure:

Day 1: Special Supply Ticket x400
Day 2: Credits 100,000
Day 3: Aircraft Research Report x100
Day 4: Credits 150,000
Day 5: Stocked Fuel x5
Day 6: Credits 200,000
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>>126174876
He's talking about the FB22, not the Rafale. Man, you have been gone for a while. Hope you're ready for everything being really overpowered compared to how things used to be.
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>>126175109
Well, fuck. Yeah, ain't played since TDM was introduced. Struggling a fair bit since my MR is in the 1800s, but it ain't as bad as I expected for the most part.

The techtree is intimidating as fuck now though. Besides parts I have no idea where to head with it.
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>>126171481
>not south belkan munitions
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>>126176290
Well, whatever you do, don't bother going for the 800+ cost planes. Falken and Wyvern start off affordable but their prices go insane past 12. The rest just start off insane (4.6 million credits for level 1!) so you'll never be able to afford them.
Some of the parts near them are nice though. The destructive plans M part in front of the Night Rafen is particularly good, since it's basically missile damage M and missile reload M combined into one part for only 12 slots. And it stacks with the standard parts if you're using them too, so you can make a multirole with super spammy missiles that can one shot both Raptors and AD tanks. S'crazy.
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>>126176290
There are some good parts around the Flanker and Terminator in the top branch, some good parts around the general area of the STD, a good compressor L in the Shinden branch, and then the rest of the important parts are at the very end of the tree and will take you months to reach and finish researching. If you don't already have them, then just focus on the first three branches I mentioned.

Otherwise it's just a matter of picking the planes you want, working towards them, and leveling them sufficiently. A properly leveled plane and good reload parts are your best friends.
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>2100 MR
>4 players with no cst restriction can S-rank no-bots Moscow constantly
>4 players with 1500 cst restriction can barely reach A rank

This disappoints me.
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>>126164519
Probably the best flight simcade that has ever graced the PS2, just be aware that is has no actual campaign.
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>>126177038
Niggas get too comfy with their spammy goyplanes/overleveled shit and forget what the struggle was like. Join an 1800 MR room where most people will probably have planes around 1100-1300 cost and S rank will be easy because they're used to being under 1500 cost by default.

I can imagine some of the whales mashing circle and having a panic attack when nothing comes or or when targets take two missiles instead of one.
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>>126174876
>Day 1: Special Supply Ticket x400
the jewishness is strong
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>>126177157
Also the controls are finicky, I'd argue that it's one of the cases where a console game would benefit from using a proper stick.
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If there's sufficient interest, tonight I'll stream the making of DVD for ace combat 5
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>>126179201
Sounds cool
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<<Rise>>
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>>126181431
<< Forever sleep. >>
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>>126181616
God bless you and merry Christmas, yodaposter
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>>126169551
Mobius 1's -1 modifier is decreasing it from 850 tier to 800 dumbass

Maybe you should actually figure out how tier damage works before you spout shit about it
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>>126181713
Thank you I do. Merry Christmas to you I wish.
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>girls cant be aces
Fuck. Someone send me a link.
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>>126181990
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>>126159336
https://youtu.be/rXSvSoxepNY?t=11m18s
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>>126181990
http://pastebin.com/WSSBWGs6
Hav
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Just bought AC04, what am I in for?
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>>126183803
prepare to feel like you're the only one in Usea who knows how to fly a plane.
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>>126183462
Thanks buddy
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Do you think that AC7 being a permanent PS4 exclusive means that Bamco should and will put their hearts entirely to the development so that it will relive the glory days of the PS2 titles, but this time in HD quality graphics and more refined gameplay ?
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>>126184831
Remember, it's PA, not all of Bamco doing development
That said, I think they will definitely be throwing their heart and soul into this one. I just hope they throw it in the right direction
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>>126184831
>>126184947
>Joint Assault director
Let that sink in.
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>>126185129
>Joint Assault director
source, please ?
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>>126185196
Previous threads.
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>>126185360
Thanks.

>AC7 will have ACJA director
<<So, we fight again, RAZGRIIIIIIIIIIIZ !>>
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Hey guys, It seems the recent PCSX2 builds, I saw the ground graphical glitches (in Hardware mode), don't show up as often, they're still there, but they don't appear as much as now.

Just shouting out my recent observations, and considering the devs been pumping out builds for the emulator a few days as of now.
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>>126185923
Too bad AC04 is still glitchy with missing aircraft textures on HW mode.
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>>126186104
I don't know.
I'm replaying 5 and Zero, and I see the ground glitch not showing as much.
However, this is hope that its getting close to being fixed at least.
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>>126185129
>In the zone
>We're flying high
>The vortex is ours
Let that song or any song in vein of that style be in AC7
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>>126185129
So, we're basically getting ACJA set in Strangereal with Unreal Engine 4 and PS4 graphics ?
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So if we're getting a Joint Assault Director.

Can we please make the AI better? Partners similar to how Pixy fights but better (You and me know that Razgriz didn't do shit except maybe Edge)?
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>>126188127
You're getting shit. In case you don't know JA is the worst modern AC title by a wide margin.
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>AC7 will be PS4 exclusive
>Thought that PA will put their hearts into it making it an over-the-top AC game
>Turns out the director is the game designer from ACJA
>AC7 will only be ACJA HD with Strangereal story
>Such a waste of potential
>Unless they work some wonders with AC7
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>>126188445
>Worst AC
But that's not AH
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>>126188831
That doesn't exist.
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>>126188831
But that's not ace combat
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>>126188445
>>126188813
Why is everyone up in arms about JA's director being in charge of 7. It's not like he's legally bound to deliver us ACJA2: Strangereal boogaloo
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>>126188831
The words of Guts ring true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znvwIRcj0u8
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>Planes are Expandable
Well, they are in Infinity.
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>>126183462
>strapons
Inferior girl detected. We all know nagase's better; she comes pre-equipped.
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>>126189547
Oh no not this shit again
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>>126179201
I'd be down
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So what are the chances of getting the Chink 5th gen fighters in AC7? Are we never going to see it because of the potential fallout from Jap players for putting it in?
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>>126192051
>implying china has an airforce
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>>126192241
They have a wonderfully innovative aerospace industry that involves buying Russian aircraft, reverse engineering them, and giving it some Engrish name that even they can't pronounce.

Here's one of the emblems awarded to only the highest of aces.
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>>126192051
Their MiG-21 knockoffs would be ebin. The cargo cult F-35/22 MiG 1.44 wouldn't.
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>>126181784
It's an 825 cst plane bucko, everyone knows they automatically get rounded down before handicap. 825 to 800. 675 to 650 etc, etc. Are you that much of a retard to not know this? How long has it been know now?
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Why is Nagase so perfect?
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>>126198331
She just is
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>>126183452
P. delicious, thanks.
Also, protip, the t=x tag doesn't work for embeding, as stupid as that sounds.
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Hey, finally beat the Aigaion mission. Those rockets are fucking easy mode.

Got a B for some reason though.

Loved how there are like 4 tunnel runs right at the following mission and then a Strigon fight. Thank god there are checkpoints.

>>126198331
>no sexy tiny scar

worst Nagase
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>>126201874
>Those rockets are fucking easy mode.
I told you so.

>Got a B for some reason though.
Did you blap the tankers too? How many Strigon kills did you score, without support? How much did it take you?
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>>126202984
>Did you blap the tankers too?
Eh... probably
>How many Strigon kills did you score, without support?
About 4
>How much did it take you?
Around 10 minutes

Guess it's time to play it again. Can't nail the first mission either, always an A and I made sure to kill everything
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>>126204209
You're probably getting fucked from a combination of missed targets, especially strigons, and taking too long on something
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Is it as easy to s-rank all missions on ace in zero as it is in 04? Which out of all of them is the hardest ps2 AC game?
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>>126204209
You're taking WAY too long.
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>>126205881
5 has a few missions that will make you want to punch the designers, so it's up there
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Anyone's playing right now?
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>>126206876
What makes them so bad?
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>>126189178
And he's not even that horrible, it was better than Assault Horizon at least
Also they got CUM HISTORIA KEIKI back on the team, so we can expect an incredible soundtrack
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>>126207150
Always one hour too early or too late, son.
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>>126207246
FFS.
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>>126192051
>chinese
>5th gen
those things are barely even 4th gen, the materials used are outdated and their engines are big smoky Sukhoi pushers
wouldn't stand a chance against an F-22
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>>126207208
Four Horsemen, really, is the one that gets me
Although both the desert missions are asininely long and target-rich for plane ammo counts and no resupply line
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>>126207575
>no resupply
Fuck
That
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>>126207208
>having to listen to Nagase's mouthbreathing if you push the wrong button
>syncing with wingmen that more often then not fuck up
>flying through the SAM network with some of them not showing up on the radar
>missions where you almost always end up with no ammo unless you're von Richtofen tier, and if you run out of ammo you're fucked because no return line and the wingmen are as useful as a punctured condom in a wizard's pocket
Did I also mention that those missions are long and have no checkpoints?
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>>126207217
>he's not even that horrible
>a plot that is a straight ripoff of MGS4's "le war economy" but incredibly bland
>that fucking horrendous mission design
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>>126207787
>punctured condom in a wizard's pocket
Wizard? Explain

Couldn't they just like, mage hand when the time arrives? Or straight up teleport the semen away?
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>>126196567
Except it's always rounded up, do you have any idea what you're talking about?

http://berkut.blog.jp/

The only exception to this rule is 775 cst which for some reason is always rounded down
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>>126208008
A wizard doesn't have sex in first place. The only few other uses a condom would have is carrying water or keeping a firearms' muzzle dry and it can't do that if it has a hole.
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>>126207575
>Finish Missles, SPW and GUN ammo
>Final wave of target spawns after the time limit
No matter how many times I play the game I somehow always bait myself into doing that, like bringin an A-10 in both the surprise grabacr missions.
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>>126196567
>>126208050
Also your precious aircraft builder supports this, you can check the F-35A and T-50 and they both do the same damage without any handicap
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>Ace Combat HD on PS3 with pressure-sensitive controls never
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>>126210143
>pressure-sensitive controls
The only use that shit had was the map and the yaw/throttle. The nogamestation4 has pressure sensitive L/R1 plus the triggers, and the map is a complete nonissue.
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>>126210143
Wasn't pressure-sensitivity a thing sense PS2?
They were unpopular, and I agree with that unpopularity. Extremely annoying unless the key was build around that idea, like R/L2. Those are fine for throttle.
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>>126210143
>pressure sensitive MGS3
>trying to non-lethal run
>accidentally choke EVERYONE to death

No thank you.
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>>126210675
Pressure sensitive buttons were a thing on the PS2/3 and the OG Xbox and I do agree they were annoying as fuck. There are only like an handful of games that I can think of that used them and one of them implemented them in an annoying as fuck way (MGS2/3 and that ended up with unintentionally emptying an AK on some poor soviet peasant's face).
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>tfw your buddy is hit and trailing smoke
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>>126211040
>Pixy/Shamrock/any of the AC3 lads and gals ever getting hit
Remember, Keith intentionally rammed Rena, that nigger is completely crazy.
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>>126210296

L1/R1 aren't pressure sensitive
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>>126212171
Oh well, it's not that great of a loss since you only really need gradual control on the rudder anyway.
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I'm getting really tired of this "fighters that ignore air targets completely meme". It happened to me 3 games in a row and the retards doing it had 20-100 MR on me and since I'm a new player I didn't even have an 800 cost plane while they were pushing 1400s.
What the fuck is their excuse? What are they doing? Air combat is the fun part of the game, why do you want to lock on to ground targets if you have the perfect tool to spin around and knock niggas down?
Why not just play Multiroles or Attackers at the very least?
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>>126212171
Dualshock 2 and 3 have pressure sensitive L1 and R1.
Dualshock 1 and 4 doesn't have any pressure sensitive buttons.
According to wikipedia.
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>>126212579
The DS4 has the triggers which are pressure sensitive, exactly like the 360 controller.
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>>126212490
So they can clear the ground points and then grab all the air targets.

Not going to get those top 400 planes playing fair are they?
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>>126212786
Those are called "Analog Trigger" on the wiki pages for some bloody reason.
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Seems like there are far less points in the air than on the ground in ACI. Is this true?
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>>126213026
I don't think that's what they are fucking doing because every other time that happens we end up missing the S-rank because they completely forgot about the air targets.
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>>126213569
Probably depends on the map but if you're doing fighter duty, you should still be cleaning up ground targets in between destroying jets, and vice versa if you're on attacker duty. B7R definitely has a few more points in the air than on the ground, even if only by a small margin.
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>>126213569
Depends on the map actually

On Pipeline for instance, there may be a lot of targets in the first phase, but they're all worth jack shit for points and the second half is full of high value air targets which actually favors fighters overall. Also there's B7R which is an air-only map.

The maps I'd say are overtly ground focused are Alps, Aerospace, Moscow, WBA, and Avalon, and most of those can have air-heavy second phases that fighters can easily MVP with if they get it
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Just a heads up, I'm gonna be streaming ace combat 5: Behind the Combat.

I've never put the disk in before, so it'll be a surprise to me as well.

http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>126214223
>B7R definitely has a few more points in the air than on the ground

Really?
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>Staying within the 900s in rankings
>Fully expecting to be dropped to like 3k in a few days
>Check what places get the black Tomcats again
>400 and lower
I think I missed this the first time but what the fuck. They are handing out 4 virtually identical planes and they are locking them down to 400? Real fucking christmas spiritey you fucking slant eyed jews.

Also I already saw a dude with a 2015 Happy New Year plane and 2015 emblem. How? Can you buy it in the PSN store or something?
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>>126215624
You can't buy any planes directly. I don't know about any new Happy New Year planes but there's a Happy Holidays plane that's currently a random gold drop.
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Not one pound for air to ground
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>>126215624
>Also I already saw a dude with a 2015 Happy New Year plane and 2015 emblem. How? Can you buy it in the PSN store or something?

I dunno, from last year maybe? You do realize that it's 2015 and anything we get this year will be for 2016
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>Single engine planes
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>>126214746
Ok, that was absolutely terrible and not worth my time, or anyone elses.
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>>126218429
How shit was it?
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>>126215256
I'm not sure whether to explain the joke or run with it
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>>126218515
I guess I anticipated like an actual documentary with like interviews with people on the project?

It was like a couple of trailers, some concept art, and that was it.
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>>126216273
>You do realize that it's 2015 and anything we get this year will be for 2016
That was a typo on my end, I meant to say 2016. Though now that you mention it, I probably just wasn't paying attention and mixed up the numbers in the game.
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No one got cash drops yet?
Holy shit Bamco just give me a good excuse to play this twisted game again.
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>>126218520
Thought you meant Moscow
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>>126219848
>confusing B7R for Moscow
How?
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>>126219931
B7R is only one letter away from "Moscow."
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Just a heads up:

It's not ace combat related, but in about an hour I'll be doing a comfy music stream as related to the upcoming holidays.
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>>126219019

Just for you

>second sortie of supplied with all the drops starting
>feel my soul dying taking a FAEB A-10 Oruma to Moscow since the host decided to fly a 2100+ T-50 Akula with MPBM's and 4 missile parts, preventing me from working on my Su-33/HVAA challenges
>second place with 76k
>gold box, start to get excited
>3 mil, freak the fuck out
>proceed to spend it all getting Miki and Takane to level 10

First time I got a drop like that since 2 million last Christmas.
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>>126211040
>tfw AC4 could've been remade and actually looked like this
>tfw it would've pushed the series through the stratosphere by introducing normies to the best game in the series via flashy graphics
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What's the metagame now? Is this F-2 still a part of it?
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>>126221470
>Implying it's not going to be a remake

Erusia's even in it, at this point it's pretty much guaranteed
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>>126222171
STD flavored Doritos.
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>>126222171
Depends on how much money you want to spend

Anything's competitive with enough levels, but the MTD is the cheapest one to get to that point so most people use it
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>>126222253
AC4 didn't have a space elevator though
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>>126222614
And AC2 didn't have Stonehenge, that didn't make AC4 any less of a remake of it
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>>126222725
Why would a numbered title be a remake? Fuck off retard.
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>>126222725
>implying Scarface has anything on based Mobius
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>>126222784
>exact same missions
>some of which are in the exact same locations
Hurr merely pretending.
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>>126222784
>AC4 is literally AC2 on the same continent going backwards and included a nemesis and a fortress assault at the end
>It can be the exact same but it can't be a remake because the number is different
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>>126223086
Learn the difference between a remake and an homage you fucking retard.
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>>126223274
>Kono on his period since he's being called out on his mediocrity
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>struggling with Su-33 challenges with Miki
>no challenge rooms up
>join Moscow with cst limitation
>teammate sorties in F-22 Flash
>damn son
>whatever, get lv. 7 Tornado to some field testing
>86k, outscore teammate by 30k

Jesus. That was a cool room. The Flash looks nice, and the host MVPd in a fucking F-16F with like 120k
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In infinity how do you get the ACTIVE skin for the F-15 STD?
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>>126224260
Tournament reward

Even if it ever comes back you'll have to goy for a high enough ranking to get it
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>>126223657
>>126222925
>>126222784
Oh god /v/ is back
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Comfy christmas stream is now live: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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<<Don't let those pilots die!>>
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