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NOTE: The 42.xx update has finally been released after nearly a year. Be prepared for weird shit, broken things, bugs, and crashes galore. If you find a bug, don't bitch about it here, go to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt and report it.
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>Download the basic game here. Current version is Dwarf Fortress 0.42.xx
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>Video tutorials:
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1A3FE72C0DCAC66 (Dated, but good)
>Text tutorials:
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~morty/Getting_Started_with_Dwarf_Fortress.pdf
>This pasta:
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Strike the earth!
Memes
>>125920710
I don't know what you're talking about.
Off to such a great start.
>>125921823
Woodys got Wood
>wereelephant strolls into my fort on my first winter
>no military, traps, protective burrows, or anything yet
>some farmer who was outside gets infected, slaughters half the fort after turning
>when expedition leader dies, some other farmer stuck in a fey mood calls dibs
>farmerphant gets ganged up on after reverting back, one of the assailants being a two-year-old girl with her arms half-gone
>farmerphant finally dies, normal business attempts to resume
>soon enough, girl turns into a wereelephant, regrows her arms, and begins killing the other half of the fort
>girl reverts and goes outside to play make believe
>moody leader goes berserk because he couldn't getbones
>the last inhabitants of my fort are a berserk farmer and a two-year-old wereelephant girl, who are now both trying to kill each other
It's like an abstract kind of fun.
so i did some experimentation since goblins weren't showing up in my worlds (40.42 to .43), and i noticed that apparently a civ having [default_site_type:dark_fortress] seems to prevent them from properly spawning on the world?
that, or they're both hidden and do absolutely nothing
do dark fortresses even work anymore?
>>125922761
I think its just that they're going to closer dwarf civ sites then yours or that maybe you got the site cap size a bit too big and theres alot more sites that they'll go to first.
>>125922761
everything seems normal to me, I've generated a dozen or so worlds since 42.x and they've all been rough the same, dark fort-wise
>>125922703
Still haven't lost. All you need to do is hold off until migrants arrive and wall off that child somewhere terrible. Leave it toys. It will lose all hunger and thirst when it transforms so you never need to feed it, and being a child it doesn't have many needs so you don't have to give it odd jobs to keep it sane.
In fact, if you're willing to play the long game then I'd rely heavily on cage traps and feed her victims when she transforms.
>>125922883
i've checked in the legends mode and they don't show up anywhere in the civilisations list when set to start with dark fortresses, even though kobolds do show up
i might make goblins the only playable race and see what comes about of that (or just give dorfs dark fortresses?)
>>125922761
Civs using dark fortresses will only spawn if you have more than zero demon types. Turning demons off will also mean turning goblins off.
>>125923560
Do you not know what they look like on the world map? You can gen a world and see immediately if they aren't being placed. No need to dig in legends or fiddle with the raws.
They're working fine; if they weren't, I promise someone other than you would've noticed by now.
>>125923560
hm. looks like it -is- something i've done in the RAWs, but i can't tell what. dark fortresses simply don't generate.
ah well, time to start on a completely fresh copy of DF and work from there, maybe i'll find out what triggers this.
>>125924415
i do - i was just checking to make sure that goblin civs weren't spawning at all.
>>125924260
huh, interesting
that's a point worth investigating, but i've only turned off bogeymen in the worlds i've played, though.
i just checked, though, and the worlds i was testing with have bogeymen set to 'none', but demons set to '20'
setting bogeymen to a nonzero number didn't change anything.
Change log's been busy today.
> [Dwarf Mode -- Immigration] permanent residents do not apply for full citizenship
> [Dwarf Mode -- Interface, Text] Renaming squads etc. with a hotkey executes hotkey
> [Undeath] Vampire Guests have nature revealed in their profession
The toad's alive!
>>125925363
>> [Dwarf Mode -- Immigration] permanent residents do not apply for full citizenship
About fucking time. Now the real game begins.
>>125925032
Read http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Entity_token#Placement and figure out which of those you've changed for the [EVIL] entity. The only other thing it could be is bizarre worldgen settings that prevent any valid locations from existing, which is a lot less likely if you've been changing the raws. Really you should probably just redownload a clean copy of the game. If you've fucked something like this up then there's no telling what else you fucked up.
gee i wonder who walked into the hospital, projectile vomited, then left their toys on a bed next to more vomit
I'm looking to set up a library but the wiki page on the materials required is horrible. Can someone suggest a guide or example of a well constructed library?
>>125925750
yeah i've already redownloaded, but i'm just looking through the raws now to see what went wrong
curiously enough, i copied clean goblin raws onto the old goblin raws (both creature and entity) and nothing changed - so it's outside of the entity/creature raws.
>>125925512
>>125925363
So these freeloading elf bards will finally be able to be directly controlled? Might be nice to strip them of their profession and throw them in the mines. Or better yet give them the woodcutter's job and let the woodcutter fuck around in the tavern all day for a while
>>125925930
At least it wasn't into the well.
>>125926318
some tables and chairs for the scholars to sit at
a couple bookshelves
a couple coffers or chests
some scrolls or quires
Thats all it really takes.
>>125927642
At least theres that.
>>125926318
Dig out a room, 10x10 should be more than enough. Build at least 1 bookcase, 1 coffer/chest, 1 table and 1 chair in the room.
With the zones menu, paint the room, make it a meeting area, press l, make it a library. Assign scholars if you want.
In an adjacent room(s) put enough space for a craftsdwarf workshop, a quern/millstone, a screwpress and a stockpile for pig tails.
With the quern/millstone, grind your pig tails into a slurry. Then press the slurry into pig tail sheets at the screwpress. You can turn the sheets into quires at the craftsdwarf workshop.
If you did everything right so far, a dwarf will come and put the quire into the coffer in your library. If you're lucky, a dwarf will even write on it. Make some book bindings, get some thread ready and you can bind the quire into a proper book.
Make more quires (or scrolls if you want to be a dickhead). If you've assigned scribes in addition to scholars, they'll make copies of your scholars shitty books about pulleys and their hometown.
>>125927515
> Visit dorfs
> Outdoor tavern, watched beautiful keas fly while I performed for drunken dwarfs
> Ask to live at tavern
> Accepted
> Play my wooden keyboard attached to 87 bells for many happy years
> Dorfs accept me as one of their own. Happy day!
> Was thrown in hole in the ground, am in some underground cavern, everything is dark
> Dorfs keep telling me to "map it out" for them
> In elf afterlife now, 12 legged hairy snail spit on me and turned me inside out
>>125928213
>> Outdoor tavern, watched beautiful keas fly while I performed for drunken dwarfs
>>125928213
I don't think there is an elf afterlife. I think they just return to nature or something. Like compost.elfertilizer when?
>>125925930
Post tileset
>>125929739
Its CLA you rotten slut.
33 pages full of spam messages... and it continues...
Anyone know what tileset has the pseudo-3d design on stuff like walls? I remember it having a sort of 'shadow' on certain items symbols that made it look like it was shadowed. Really enjoyed it. Even if it's not updatedor finished, if it was just being worked onI'd like to know what I'm thinking of. It was really nice
>>125929821
Its not CLA, the floors are different
>>125929884
There are several. The wiki has a tileset repository. Use it.
>>125930019
they're engraved.
Does poetry and music and the like have any big effects?
Can I make my songs known across the land?
>you will never make a beautiful fort
Feels bad man
>>125930208
Why not?
>>125930248
I don't know how
>>125930328
Every time you have the urge dig a square, do something else. Have at least one axis of symmetry. Don't make rooms in the dirt. Consider ramps more often. You'll be digging works of art in no time.
this fucking site man
>>125930579
There's only one problem with doing something big.
>>125930958
Yeah, eventually it just looks like an oversized eyedropper. Fucking annoying.
>>125930958
I'm not seeing the problem.
>>125931057
It was a bit too grand.
I did do a fair few multi z level things, for a bit.
>oh thank god my weaponsmith has a fey mood!
>he claimed the mason shop..
>>125931197
Actually I take that back. Ramps at the wall edges. Disgusting.
>>125927642
This is why you put your well into a sealable room instead of the middle of the main lobby.
>5 years
>136 dorfs
>330k wealth
>has not been a single snatcher, fb, or werecreature for 3 years
I want to kill some gobbos and a gobbo civ shows up on the civ screen but alas, they will never send anyhing
>>125931197
Took me a while but found this old picture.
The problem mainly comes down to all the different coloured walls.
>>125931785
>>330k wealth
damn son step it up
>>125932027
Nice dick, dude.
>>125931785
Hit that adamantine already, you'll get like 3 titans at once and some forgotten beasts for good measure
>hemp flour
Dwarven war on drugs is coming.
>get an appraiser in first migrant wave, make him broker
>year 2, first nondwarven caravan
>in come the fucking rhesus macaques
>as the militia is chasing them across the map a kobold thief appears
>broker is the first to notice, immediately runs after it
>kobold retaliates, broker just dodges everything for a few turns
>"it appears I might have to fight"
>the dwarven broker hits the kobold thief in the head with his right hand and the injured part explodes into gore!
Holy shit.
>>125934401
Was he bald and wearing nothing but a dress?
The peaceful ones are the most dangerous.
Can anyone tell me how to fix this faggot without killing her? She's really annoying me with her temper. She has no labors assigned except masonry, her legendary skill, and barely works. She refuses to take care of her own shit.
>>125935013
>She has no labors assigned except masonry
>nauseated by the sun
What the fuck are you doing.
>>125935013
Looks like unmet needs. Make sure your clothing industry is churning out decent clothing, make some crafts out of decent metals and see if she grabs any, put valuable furniture in her room and turn off her labours for a little bit so she can hang out in the tavern with some pals.
How do I quickly get rid of my zombies? When I attack one, the others don't give a fuck and continue following me.
>>125935148
She just wandered outside then got pissed about it.
Just had a werecat attack my fort. Fortunately, only one person got bitten.
>>125929884
You aren't talking about my set with the crap gradient shading are you? I put in some fake-3d walls.
>>125930092
Yes, it is actually way more effective at spreading your fame and even recruiting followers than killing dragons and whatnot, even better than rescuing kids.
>>125935262
I can't outrun them even at 3.8 speed, they instantly murder everything, and I keep lying down to make way for them. It takes a lot of time to manually put down even one and I have 54.
Fuck.
>minecarts refuse to generate new jobs
>people with only the hauling labor for wood and burrowed in the minecart area ignore it and don't load it
I'm so confused.
>>125937354
alright after reconstructing the track its generating jobs but no one will fill them - including the asshole I burrowed to only access the place.
>>125937354
I guess it's all about how the hauling route is set up, did you follow the steps on the wiki carefully? did you make sure to set up a stockpile link and tell it to accept the kind of items you want?
>>125937354
Push/operate vehicle is also a job that requires a labor to be activated.
>>125937725
fat shit that matters, they're not loading it.
>>125931785
>330k wealth
>5 years
There's your problem.
>>125937667
>>125937701
>>125937725
its working now after rebuilding the track stop for a third time I don't know fuck it.
>>125937796
They need that labor active to place things into the minecart.
>>125937150
Tell them to wait somewhere, run and jump across a river, get a ways across it and travel.
Should be wood proof now. Always missing that one sock.
>tfw when you catch a breeding pair of cave crocodiles
>tfw no one will ever eat anything but cave crocodile eggs ever again in your fortress
>>125939067
>not having so many fucking pecans that every other foodstuff in your fort is diluted in a minced pecan slurry
>>125939067
>wasting cave crocodiles on dwarfes
>not making a army of cave crocodiles
Don't remember them doing this... Bastard won't wear it when inactive.
Gobbo/elf/human fortress when? Dwarves are boring and ugly
>>125937150
Thanks, I jumped across a ravine and fled.
35 PAGES OF INCIDENTS IN HALF AN HOUR
AND ONE OF THE SEVERED ARMS IS NOW KNOWN AS ENJOYEDLIMB
>>125939373
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1451
Ancient bug.
>>125939440
>>125939571
lel
>>125939340
>not drowning your dwarves in hatchlings
>>125939363
With clutches of 50+ I can fill the whole dwarven universe with cave crocodiles in just a few cyles
does a constructed floor add to or simply replace the worth of the floor below it?
>>125940264
Yeah, if you pretend the per-species animal limit doesn't exist.
>>125940267
my guess would be it replaces it. I don't know for sure, but I do know that constructing a floor over a smoothed floor turns the smoothed floor back into a rough floor, and something about that tells me that the natural floor is getting overwritten or ignored or whatever
>>125939749
She's wounded again, never really had to deal with that bug before.
>build trade depot
>wait for caravan to arrive
>destroy depot
>dwarves take all the caravan items that are now on the floor
>>125939571
They all homed to me through mountains and rivers when I was waiting for dawn. And they won't listen to my orders.
>>125940932
haven't been able to do that for years.
Four more of these assholes decided to climb trees and got stuck
>>125941270
why are you telling them to gather fruit then?
>>125941351
The only time I gave anyone a gather plants order was at the start, 5 years ago. The best I can figure is it designated multiple fruit/trees since I did it over multiple z levels. Then I chopped those trees down. Now the game doesn't know what to fucking think and is sending an asshole to pick phantom fruit and another asshole to get him and they all die.
>>125941849
more likely they're running away from something (owls? kea?), jumping up trees to get away from them, and then now knowing how to get down again
>>125941849
>designated multiple z-levels
ya, don't do that. If you do it at ground level they will gather fruit from every tree whos trunk is in that area, you don't have to designate the branches.
They'll still get stuck, mind you, but thats a single location where you can turn off fruit picking and leave them to collect shit off the ground
>>125941270
Trees they're the new death trap.
You're dwarfs will climb into them and die or worse a log will fall from above and kill them.
About half the population of my fort is pretty much only children, is this normal?
I mean, I didn't knew Dorfs were like sandniggers when it come to babymaking
Just built my first dog-powered dwarfputing circuit. Just a simple toggle latch, but it allows me to trigger a drawbridge without having to wait for a dwarf to get up from his ale and toddle over
This seems fun, I may build something more complex. I think an automated lava trap will be the next project
>>125942525
You find it fun just walling off from the outside world with nothing being able to get in?
>first two embarks were completely peaceful, so i decide to start my first haunted embark
>start chopping trees and things are actually going ok. run ins with porcupine corpses, crow corpses and alive/undead alligators but dorfs beat them to death.
>one dorf gets head muched in by a porcupine neck and has to lie down, but he gets better
>get cocky and decide to make my first above ground fort, just to give the local wild-unlife the finger
>suddenly get a notice about some vile fog or something
>shelters aren't finished so it rolls over my entire embark
>everyone is now a walking corpse except for my expedition leader, who is digging stone out of a near bye hill
>start prepping to wall him in so he can last until migrants arrive to distract the hordes
>before he can finish an undead cat's head rolls in and scares him out
>as he flees he runs into an undead porcupine, which scares him right into the waiting teeth of the undead woodworker
>ded fort
pretty fun
How do you fuckers manage to have tree problems? I haven't had a single dwarf die in a tree since 40.01.
Always have a meeting zone or a wagon.
Don't designate gather zones or plant gather jobs across z-levels.
Make sure you have stepladders.
If a dwarf does get stuck and you're doing everything right, they're probably only one z-level up and cutting them out of the tree won't kill them unless you've chopped down another tree next to that tree and there's loose logs already in the branches.
This isn't hard you fucks.
>>125943069
My trees are pretty dense and logs get caught in other trees thus becoming a lethal object.
There's also a bug where dwarfs refuse to climb or jump other then in combat.
>>125943439
Elves are faggots and the overworld is trash aside... the fuck are you doing anon? You don't need all that wood, why are you designating a forest for removal? 1 tree gives you like 20 wood.
>>125942594
I find it fun not losing, ya. Novel concept, I know, but play the game long enough and losing a fort to a siege doesn't quit keep its novelty. I'd rather do other things.
>>125943439
>There's also a bug where dwarfs refuse to climb or jump other then in combat.
nah, just had a dwarf jump over an open trench after getting stuck in a trap I was making.
>>125943563
I want to make sure I get enough logs before woody gets killed.
>>125943754
Woody's fucked if you keep making him clear cut entire biomes on his own. Give the nigger a break.
man, I would love to have a "clean" designation
>dwarf civ is called "The Hammer of Virginity"
>>125943703
Try and make a miner drill to the center of the earth, they dig like 5 z-levels and climb out to hear poetry/drink/be an asshole.
>>125942886
evilbiomes: the story
>>125943992
this. I know toady is planning to overhaul the whole light/dark/inside/outside thing at some point and I guess how dwarves choose what to clean will be bundled in with that somewhere, but it would be amazing even just to have a placeholder, a "cleaning encouraged here" zone designation maybe. I really like the idea of a surface tavern/depot setup to serve as a point of contact with the outside world for an underground fort, but in the current state it's just unmanageable. booze and vomit stains everywhere, and people going through soap faster than a steel weapon through a water FB to clean themselves because of it
1025: The Age of Myth
Thanks Toady
>>125942428
>2 dorfs have 1 child
Color me surprised. You should have healthy 2.5 dorfs per family.
>>125945280
how large of a world and how many times did the age change?
>>125945904
V. Large, I dunno I spent like all night genning it so I was kind of hoping that it would end up in some non-mythic age. All default settings except with V. Large map and V. Large history
>>125945280
>>125946294
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8544
Known issue. Not yet confirmed, but in my experience you need a very particular kind of world to ever see an age change during worldgen: tons and tons of civs on a medium or smaller world. The age will change very quickly to an "age of monster" or "age of monster and monster" depending on which megas/titans/etc get a kill streak first.
>find a den with a cyclops family in it
>go inside and write a poem to reset their positions
>make campfires while they can't see me
>use the opportunity to chitchat with them
>pic related
>>125945280
>world where forgotten beasts are killed by a good smack to the head with a wine mug by a drunk gelder
>Age of Myth
>dorf loves granite
>he carries around a large rock pot made of granite everywhere he goes
Dwarves are autistic I swear, I have 1000000 copper crafts decorated with bone but he's decided to adopt a pot
>>125948527
is he a militia member with no waterskin/flask/vial?
>>125948604
No he's a furnace operator
Hes got this thing held with both hands and can still work miraculously
>>125948812
that's hilarious then. is he listed as its owner?
MUH DIK
>>125948860
Yeah
I think maybe the "ownership of crafts" that Toady put in may have gone out of bounds
Or it could be a feature, can't tell with this game
>>125949925
that's fantastic. sounds like a "feature"
I hope he keeps it with him. reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZU6UMDfgY
>>125941215
I did it, just a few days ago with the current version
I'd gotten frustrated with repeated crashes from .03's trading-with-goblets bug and was curious what would happen if i pulled the rug out from under the merchants
They just up and left me with all of their goods. Never knew about that exploit until i'd done it by accident
>>125948943
>platinum mace
Very nice.
Can technically dorfs make maces out of slade on a strange mood?How would such mace/warhammer behave?
>>125942428
You ever check your migrants' relationships list? Their extended families can get fucking huge. Cousins, nephews, and nieces out the ass.
>>125950404
I don't know about that, I've never seen a rock weapon from a strange mood, the only craftsdwarf moods that seem to end up as weapons are bone carving
>>125950404
>Can technically dorfs make maces out of slade on a strange mood?
No.
>How would such mace/warhammer behave?
It would be heavy as shit and hurt a lot.
>follow a dwarf
>realize what a useless cunt he's been this whole time
>>125952046
>follow a dwarf
>he's travelling down through the fort on a spiral staircase, past the things I built at the beginning and down through later structures, toward the caverns and magma sea
>feel like I'm watching the end of 2001 a space odyssey again
>>125952046
I find it fun to follow known vampires. First time I found one I just followed him for a while until I put him into a home with no door.
>>125952046
>>125952374
>follow a dwarf
>plans to get some wood
>takes off his pants in the entry hall
>goes outside
>starts vomiting and stumbling around
>stops for a nap
>a concerned friend brings him water
>gets up and vomits some more
>goes for another drink
>he never got wood
It's like he was reenacting a scene from my youth. Such nostalgia.
>fps: 39
this is it. the beginning of the end.
Talk about nobles inheriting... I just had it happen for the first time.
>>125954620
Dwarven eye can't see past 24 FPS anyway.
Seems goblins started to invade my civ. The Queen got killed.
Mistakes were made.
>The New Anvil
I'd name my tavern that if i were a dwarf. I love the random name generation
>>125954301
You grew up in Kentucky didn't you, I lived there for a while, I recognize hillbilly when I see it.
Werepanther killed one dwarf and a few animals, made a yak explode.
Turns back and runs into a old mine only to be shot to death.
Oh god I feel dumb as I never needed a hospital too much before, how do I keep dorfs from spinning all the fucking thread?
>>125958152
>first thought: neat!
>second thought: dammit I can recognize the way df runs rivers and erodes mountains now
>I do not need more useless skills
How does one even make a game like this?
>>125958152
>history of same world
>literally a fly god
>>125959107
>those later books
How deep.
>>125958720
>open it in a new tab
>oh hey, that town looks interesting
>fuck, I can recognize sites too
>>125958152
Seed?
Why won't my chickens claim their nest boxes? What the hell am I doing wrong?
>>125959735
It's a perfectworld thing.
http://files.catbox.moe/ea572b.pwset
>>125959894
Are the nest boxes a part of their Pen?
>>125960162
They are now but they still don't give a fuck.
>>125961017
Apparently I had to remove all my nest boxes and replace them. That fixed it
Is it still not enough to simply have goblins in neighbour list to get regular sieges? Does your fortress still have to be in close proximity to an overpopulated goblin civ?
>>125961382
Not all goblin civs are violent anymore. Same applies to dwarves, humans and elves.
What are the best programs to read legends?
Is there any point in giving your dwarves exotic weaponry like twohanded swords? can they actually gain skill in it?
>>125961980
They still use the regular sword skill.
>>125951546
If you can use it you can send people across the screen with one.
I wish some anon would draw figurine of muscled dorf curling like a madman
>>125941270
I only had one dwarf stuck on tree. When he got Strange Mood and moved only some time after going berserk. Killed my FPS when stuck.
>>125931785
>not smoothing fucking everything
>not cooking surplus ingredients
>not having a legendary rock crafter making useless rock crafts to shove at merchants' faces
>not engraving dining halls, offices and tombs
>not cutting every single gem and smelting every single ore and making metal statues with encrusted jewels to show off in your high traffic areas
>>125944041
Yeah, this is annoying as fuck. I was trying last night to make a reservoir out of a river and the fucker kept climbing 2 z-levels without ramps and went straight to drink.
I killed two elven merchants and claimed all their shit. I think my fortress is now a lot much wealthy which explains one goblin siege and two werecreatures in a single year.
>>125964820
>implying elven merchants have anything useful
Human caravans have the best stuff
>>125964923
Dwarven>Human>Elven
Unless Treefags bring something interesting like breeding pair of gorillas.
>Dwarf Fortress should be all about sieges!
>>125965846
>but only in adventurer mode, where you have to raise your fame enough to accrue power or attain a position capable of raising and commanding an army and using it to protect sites within your sphere of control/interest or siege them, up to you really
>>125965985
>"What do you think about building walls?"
>"It was inevitable."
>>125965846
Autisming megafortresses is fine, but it gets boring when there's nothing to fight against.
>>125962249
Can you check what the depicted dwarf looks like?
>>125968325
It doesnt say on artifact and he isn't my resident,i have to find him in legends or something?
>Do something in adventure mode
>Start fortress
>Walls are full of engravings about my adventure mode character
This game is brilliant.
Memes aside, how many of /dfg/'s anons actually have autism?
>>125969080
I'm dyslexic.
>>125969080
I may have a tiny amount of ocd, but other than that I'm is good senpai
>>125969182
No, you're an autistic nigger.
>>125969080
Well, since it's only me, me pretending to be that guy that hates my stories, me pretending to be victoranon, me pretending to be cool enough to pass off the shit timbukdrew does as my own, and me pretending to be someone else asking this question... I think I already know the answer.
>build a decently sized library with masterwork marble furniture, masterwork engravings and everything that a scholar needs to work
>only one dwarf ever uses it, with some foreigners occasionally coming in a few times per year
>four books on the bookshelves
>build a 4x6 library with leftover furniture and wooden doors in my hospital so that doctors could study medicine in their spare time
>it's the second most popular place in the fortress, after the tavern
>all bookshelves are nearly full
dem dorfs man
>>125969257
time for magma forges without magma crabs!
>>125969534
Does magma have pressure like water? Is it higher? Cause every time I try to channel magma my poor dorf dies. I do the same way that I channel water. Idk what I'm doing wrong
>>125969528
They seem to love cramped libraries, the more cramped the less violent and murderous they are in world-gen libraries.
Well, except the goblin ones which end up in the troll pits with lots of room but tend to be remarkably peaceful if there aren't trolls/beak dogs/whatever killing goblins.
Elf ones are huge and open and just a nonstop lagfucking murderfest.
>>125969080
I don't, though I'm more of a lurker.
Do you?Need to talk about anything?
>>125969534
whoops, didn't mean to quote
but oh well
>>125969702
it doesn't have pressure unless it's coming out of a screw pump
i'm not sure what you're doing but sometimes dwarves will sit in the pit they're channeling to do the next tile along, especially right after they've finished channeling that tile
when they're channeling from a pit filled with water this isn't too bad - they'll get covered in 1/7 to 3/7 water and step out, but when you're digging magma trenches even a 1/7 pool at his feet could put him in hospital for a fair while.
so it's best to channel everything out and have your magma's path made before you actually release the magma
also, when digging out a block to release magma into a tunnel or wherever, you should remove mining from all but one of your dorfs, designate the tile holding back the magma with 1 priority, then designate a mining spot somewhere else at a higher priority
this will make it so that he immediately turns around and moves away from the magma as soon as he finishes digging through the wall holding it back
previously this required you to have him do stone detailing or something similar instead.
FINALLY, all the adventuring I do, all the barhopping, I finally saw npcs do a dance.
Sure, it was one they learned from me, so I didn't get to pick something new up... but FUCK!
>>125971030
Ha ha, taught another group the fun little spinning-while-making-slow-loops dance and they started doing one version so I busted out another, BRING IT ON YOU NORTH SIDE HOODRATS!
>spent several days shaping and generating a satisfactory world, reading its legends and finding a good embark locations
>yay, embarked, time to start designing the glorious fortress
>suddenly don't feel like playing DF anymore
fuck
>>125969080
I have pseudo insomnia.
DF wears my brain out and lets me sleep right.
>>125973782
>Embark
>Have to design fortress
>Realize I'm shit at design
>Terminate DF.exe
>run out of plump helmets
>buy some from the next caravan
>have plump helmets
>game says I still have no brewable plants
What am I doing wrong?
>>125949925
5>>125948860
Maybe it falls under trinkets working again
>>125974830
forbidden/cooked
>>125968560
Okay nevermind then, thought he was one of your dwarves
>>125974168
>Open Dwarf Fortress
>Pumped to access the new tavern/library/temple features
>Embark
>Don't feel like carving out farms, rooms, workshops, etc for the millionth time
>Save and quit
>>125975846
do something different and don't make the same autism squares like usual
>>125975418
>>125974830
Figured it out, had no barrels.
Any downsides to using tavern as the main dining hall for all the dorfs?
How?
Just, how?
>>125976403
>leather flute
We all have one.
Is it possible to make a glass roof so birds don't keep flying down the channel to my dining room?
>>125976403
>flute
>not some super complicated thing called "insert moonspeak name here"
>playing obsolete versions
Enjoy having 0.40 nosieges, notaverns and nolibraries, Anon.
>>125920515
So, how do I learn this?
I already tried to get into this game 3 times but uninstalled after 15 minutes on all times
I simply have no idea what is going on at the screen and all written tutorials are too vague.
In this world I've visited two libraries, the horrible one with the people trapped forever behind the ramp pillar, and everyone else stuck on the wrong side of the ramp.
It had like 10 usable floor tiles and 100 scholars packed into them, and everyone was chill as fuck.
Elf library, wide open, no walls, lots of space, everyone is stabbing everybody else in the head.
>>125977058
Just put a floor there, you can make it glass, doesn't matter.
>>125976506
Clever.
>>125977254
>Saying fuck in /dfg/
Go back to /b/, stop bringing that garbage into this thread.
>>125977241
Might try taking more than 15 minutes to see if you can figure anything out?
>>125977241
Download a tileset, it makes learning the game a LOT easier.
Guys I need a sanity check. Last ver. I remember the Phoebus tilesets being different. There was a large one with all the animals, etc. Now it's just the normal square and my cat is a "c" again. I know boo hoo. wtf happened? I was a douche and deleted all my shit from last ver.
Also, if you guys want a change of pace wanderlust is a great font and the color schemes are easy on the eyes.
>>125977590
Is this a meme I missed or something? I don't go to /b/ so I ain't got a clue if it's actually a joke or what
>>125977174
I'm going to update to the new version of DF when DFHack hits.
Calm yourself.
Also saves are compatible so I can just play that.
>>125977775
ur been MEME'd, lol
>>125976403
>someone is going to play a literal skin flute
I just tried adventure mode for the first time. I couldn't figure out how to equip (q didn't do anything?), so I just starting attacking everyone in the starting room with bare hands and teeth. My guy ended up crawling on the floor in a pool of blood. His last act before suffocating was to bite a lasher's toe off and throw it at him.
>>125978228
Well shit, and I woulda gotten away with it too if not for those middling kids and that talking anon.
>>125979049
look up "adventure mode quickstart guide" and "adventure mode quick reference" on the wiki. I'd recommend reading all the way through the former, and keeping the latter open at all times to refer to
>>125977716
Did you install it by hand? Is everything in the correct folders? Did you change GRAPHICS: NO to GRAPHICS: YES in init.txt?
>>125978007
>saves are compatible
Technically, yes. You'll be missing a lot of new features, though.
Stop posting made up stories from this fake game, it's been going on for years now
Sage for dwarf fortress faggotry
>>125979049
Sounds like you got the hang of it pretty quick.
>>125979412
just "adventure mode quick start," not "guide," my mistake
>>125979417
>You'll be missing a lot of new features, though.
Like?
>>125979538
Like everything affected by the worldgen procedure. So, taverns and libraries
>>125979685
Can't I build mine?
>>125979538
Everything added in 42.01. Maybe locations and armor size will be there.
>>125979742
One way to find out. Either way performers won't function because no dances or poems have been created during worldgen.
>it will be another 1.5 years before we get a major update again
Thanks Tarn "smaller dev cycle" Adams
>you now remember the 10 year gulf of nothing between .34 and .40
Haven't played in a long time, don't really remember how to navigate the UI, want something to actually happen in my game.
It's a great idea to embark in the middle of a giant patch of sinister surroundings right?
>>125979538
You'll be able to make the new locations, and dwarves should use mugs/claim trinkets, and should have the new needs. They'll probably be able to tell stories.
Other than that, you won't get any of the new stuff, at least in fort mode. There won't be any music or poetry or dancing because no music, poems or dances exist. You won't get visiting performers or scholars because there won't be any performers or scholars in the world to visit you. There won't be any animal people in civilized pops. The only books in the world will be the ones written and owned by necromancers, and you won't be able to make more because no civ in the world will know the reactions to make paper.
You should be able to create dances and songs and poems with an adventurer if you're inclined to do so, though. I'm not sure how the musical aspect of that will work without the proc-genned instruments. And you could go steal necromancers' libraries to stock your own, I guess.
>>125980138
Go terrifying or go home.
>>125974830
>>125976182
I keep hearing this. What version are you people playing thst says you have no brewable plants when you run out of barrels? Both 40 and 42 say "need food storage" when you try to brew something with no barrels.
Or does lazy newb pack change something to make it say that?
>>125980782
I'm not using LNP, just my dumb self assuming that "Brew drink from plants" option being red meant I had no plants, not barrels.
>>125980782
I don't know about now, but in .40 the only cancellation message was "Needs brewable PLANT_MAT" or something to that effect, regardless of the cause for the cancellation. It led to a great many spurious "why can't I brew?!" bug reports. It was like that in versions prior to .40 as well.
Any tips on dealing with undead? I have about 35 undead goblins and 10 living ones besieging me.
It appears that the necromancer already left. They've been sitting in the same spot for half a year now.
My military is shitty and I haven't gotten to making a nice trap hallway yet.
Any tips?
>>125965846
>Dwarf FORTRESS
>"Hurr game shouldn't be about sieges and war"
>>125980969
no, I'm using LNP, which probably does something to fix the error message to be more useful
>>125981236
ya, I still get that error, but only if it's missing plants
>>125981546
>if I prefix "hurr" to a simplified version of an already simple argument I won't have to admit he's right
Sieges are a very small and boring part of the game, get over it. The word fortress doesn't imply anything like that
Is the wanderer mod for adventure mode any good?
>>125981587
>no, I'm using LNP, which probably does something to fix the error message to be more useful
It doesn't. LNP is just a launcher and a GUI for changing some init options. The error messages are hard coded anyway.
>drink: 80
>everyone's drinking from the well because 100% of the booze is in goblets that dwarves are carrying around and not using
>>125982130
make more booze, less goblets. My problem is I have a constant train of dwarves hauling goblets and quires to a stockpile and then back to their tavern/library. Clearly the setup needs some ironing out
>there's an entire flying squirrel man civilization
Holy shit, is this new?
>>125982524
I've tried that routine, it doesn't solve the problem as dwarves then get unhappy thoughts about drinking without a cup or goblet
this way they don't seem to get negative thoughts
I've found that having the only stockpile that accepts X placed inside the only location that needs X speeds things up a bit, although you still get loads of stupid hauling jobs
I tried removing those stockpiles altogether but then dwarves seem to forget the items exist (I had two dozen instruments lying on the floor of my last tavern while dwarves were "simulating" those same instruments 2-3 squares away, apparently unable to find them)
>>125982597
have you modded anything? I know toady messed with citizenship and animal people, but I've never seen anything like that. I want to believe
I am new at this game. I do not want to burn up my woods for my steel industry and I'm too much of a chump to figure out how to pump magma to the surface.
Will it work if I create a shaft and unload ores/coal into it from a mine cart to deliver supplies down 150 z levels? Obviously it would be in a separate room so my smelters don't get bonked on the head while working.
>>125982905
from my experience dorfs won't dig a vertical shaft. They'll dig down ~5 z levels then climb out and won't go back down
r i p
>>125983376
dig the whole thing as a staircase first, then channel it out layer by layer, starting at the top
>>125982905
yes, that will work, although it might take some time to get right. have you read through the wiki articles on minecarts/hauling routes?
>>125981750
Sieges are what put a timer on your fort
The pressure that your fort could be destroyed and your effort could evaporate is what makes it fun for me
>returning after a long while
God dang, phoebus had me spoilt rotten, it'll take a while to get used to the default tileset
Short question:
Can you gather plants, berries, fruit in adventure mode?
I can only seem to get leaves.
>>125983760
being a masochist is not an honor badge. You may find getting shit on by some goblins to be fun, but a lot of people have fun working with minecarts, fluids, massive constructions, all kinds of SCIENCE and other things. There is a tonne of things to do in this game. Fighting sieges is a very small part, and losing tonnes of work to one is only enjoyable to a very small subset of people.
Claiming sieges are the center of the game experience is nonsense.
Where do I get paper as an adventurer? I want to unlock the secrets of the world?
>>125969080
i have a bit of a drinking problem but that's it
>>125983861
then use phoebus?
>>125982597
There isn't.
If you see a "flying squirrel man" option among the standard races when you pick a race, it's because one or more of the playable civilisations has a considerable flying squirrel man population. Then, I guess it's possible for the flying squirrel man elements to take over the civ if they reproduce fast enough.
>wake up
>breakfast
>shower
>time for some lazysunday dwarf fort
>my legendary armorer is stuck in a tree
>ded
i hate this embark i really do.
>>125982130
>not having 2 stills on repeat
My dwarfs are having a problem with pitting- I've got a cyclops, couple of trogs, a gorlax, a bunch of wrenpeople and a captured human who came in a goblin "siege" that was just one goblin crossbowman and 7~ unarmed human recruits - trouble is I don't seem to be able to pit any of them, they just don't show up in the menus for dumping things into pits.
>>125983502
God bless dude that helps so much
>>125976068
That would require artistic competence.
>>125986743
and autistic designating.
you could try an above ground fort
>>125984832
not him but I'm forced to have two dwarves with only brewing enabled churning out alcohol 24/7. I have 50 fucking entertainers, scholars, and pilgrams coming to my temple AND THEY ALL WANT A DRINK.
>>125986743
just do fractals, that doesnt take any shred of artistic ability
>>125987424
Send your military to kill your visitors. Nothing bad will happen.I think
>>125988520
Toadman hasn't added reputation I don't think
>>125985408
It's a bug, i think
It will be fixed in the next update, i think
>>125984143
I don't disagree with your sentiment, but for a different reason. I think sieges are a trivial aspect of the game for an experienced player simply because they don't present any kind of challenge. Once you know how to set up a military, sieges are little more than a way to generate a thousand refuse hauling jobs with a couple dozen keystrokes.
>>125986743
Some ideas for you:
>Make individual semi-self-sufficient villages and create intra-fortress trade
>Only build stockpiles for food/drink and trade goods
>Integrate bedrooms into workshop buildings rather than designating commieblocks of bedrooms
>Dwarvenezia- Channel canals throughout your fortress to eventually fill with wat- MAGMA
Anyone feel like farming gives you less now? I have multiple 5x5 forts pumping out plump helmets and I can barely feed my fort
I rely on caravans to supplement my food supply now, I can't live without it, mainly buying huge amounts of fruit and vegetables to brew
Tavern visitors are turned off btw
>>125988817
You're right that it's a bug, but it isn't listed in the change log for the next release.
>>125989426
not particularly. have you your workshop [o]rders to ONLY FARMERS HARVEST? once they get any kind of decent 5-10 range skill then they're pulling barrels of food out of the plot and you have an assload as usual.
plus you can always just gather plants, which nets absurd amounts.
Is they anon who created myne lurking?
You might be interested in this:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=154849.0
>So I was frustrated by the lack of symmetry from any of the existing fortress planners. I don't know about you guys, but I like my fortress designs to be symmetrical when at all possible, and so I sat down and wrote a lovely tool for it. It's early on, but I want some feedback for the features I have now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWPfXQlMaBk
>demonstration
>>125989426
Not that I can tell. Have you turned off cooking for brewables? Are you cooking at all? Are your edible plants stockpiled closer to your dwarves than your prepared meals? Are you using a lot of low level farmers?
Any or all of these things could be affecting your stock levels.
>>125989426
Hmm, I was going to blame the fact that tavern visitors were drinking my booze for the fact that I had less than usual, but maybe you're right.
It still could be the way drinking works now, I guess, maybe even citizen dwarves use more.
But in 40.x I could very easily keep ~120 dwarves boozed up with 2 2x3 farm plots and a bit of herbalism, in this fort I have a dedicated full-time herbalist and 4 2x2 plots and I can only barely keep up, so maybe you're right
If so I think it's a good thing, farming was hilariously overproductive in the old version
>>125989751
>Is they anon who created myne lurking?
Myne is a tileset. One of the oldest. I doubt an anon created it, and I can't see what it has to do with a fort planning utility.
>>125989746
Maybe my problem is with my farmers skill levels, the highest is 5 but there are a couple 1 skill levels
The plump helmet plot was putting a pathetic amount of product per square which was then being brewed into a pathetic amount of wine
>>125989426
nope, one small plot is still more than enough
>>125989998
That's def your problem. Farmer skill = amount harvested. Stop letting jobless dwarves harvest and watch their skill level skyrocket.
As a stopgap, just select an entire z level for plant harvesting and make everyone without a job a herbalist. Ez shitton of food.
>>125989998
regardless of any possible changes in this update, you still only need 1 farmer. In fact having more than 1 probably does more harm than good
o-->h as well so he hits legendary quicker
How do I make a dwarf only use the materials I want in an artifact without forbidding everything?
Is assigning him a burrow enough with only the materials I want enough?
>>125990115
>Ez shitton of food
Ez half your fortress getting stuck up a tree*
>>125990302
Fuck that bug so fucking hard.
>>125989746
You're not wrong that setting farmers only harvest is a good idea, as it give planting experience, but the size of the crop stack depends on the skill of the dwarf that plants it, not the one that harvests it.
>>125990302
Just have urist mcwoodcutter get him out. He'll be fine.
>>125989983
CLA definetly lurks
>>125990302
make sure you have at least as many stepladders as herbalists. I noticed it happened a few times when I had two guys trying to use the same ladder, but when I was using 3 herbalists early on in my current fort I made sure to have 3+ stepladders, and never ran into any trouble
>>125990516
Huh I don't doubt you but I thought it was the other way. Skill effects planting speed, skill effects harvest amount.
>Bring one soldier with me
>Gets wrecked in the caverns
>Oops
>No military now
>Elven caravan shows up
>Brings leopard
>Leopard becomes my new militia commander
>Wrecks invaders
This is why I love this game.
>>125990661
no I think the other anon is right. if you watch your farms closely the harvesters aren't grabbing plants out of thin air, they actually appear on the plot when they're ripe, and then a harvest job is created from that
>>125990520
I've been in this general consistently since 34.11, and I've never seen anything to suggest that. Maxtm posts here, and he's made a few upscaled/nonsquare versions of CLA (he's even credited in the OP for CLA on the tileset subforum on bay12). That's probably why you think that. He also keeps having to tell people here that isn't CLA or Victorianon, because anons like you keep saying shit like that.
>>125990661
The skill of the planter is all that matters. The harvester's skill does not effect output.
Its counter intuitive but there you go
>>125990661
You can check the wiki. IIRC it has links to science threads on bay12.
>>125990520
Probably, but I didn't think CLA made the Myne set, just the CLA version of it and the actual graphics themselves?
Ok there is a leather stockpile and a stone stockpile in a burrow, nobody will bring the materials there, even though they brought the gems and wood in the same burrow.
What the hell man?
The materials exist and are accessible. I don't fucking understand.
if something is standing on a pressure plate and then dies, does it stop triggering the plate?
If you were to guess, how many hours do you think you've put into this game?
>>125990571
The problem is dwarves will haul away stepladders, or dwarves will leap into trees to avoid combat. Then you get deddwarfs
>>125991020
Well, that and I'm an asshole, and they both seem pretty nice, so I wouldn't want them to be mistaken for me, or to accidentally be given credit for cool shit they've done.
>>125992115
csgo 600
css like 5 lmao fuck that shit
1.6 1300
>>125992115
Aboutdwarf stuck in tree fiddy
>>125992115
i wouldnt be surprised if its less then a hundred hours
i like reading everyones stories more then making my own
>>125992282
What the fuck is wrong with you CSS is so good
>>125989983
>>125990520
>>125991237
CLA didn't create Myne.
The guy that created Myne (i.e. took Haowan and changed the soldier tile - and maybe one or two others) lurks these threads (and he's been on /v/ before that). I know because I've been in the DF threads (on /v/, years before /vg/ existed) where he first posted it.He's the guy that always posts these symmetrical fortresses.
>>125992175
>dwarves will haul away stepladders
I think that only happens if you have fewer ladders than herbalists. they don't try to put them back in a stockpile for no reason.
the leaping to avoid combat ("combat" meaning some harmless flying animal that looked at them from 20 squares away) is a problem though, yeah
>>125992498
>He's the guy that always posts these symmetrical fortresses.
The one that isn't Max, then? The one who bothers with chessboard floor tiles and shit?
>>125992498
>He's the guy that always posts these symmetrical fortresses.
you mean everybody?
>>125992282
ayy wrong general
i've got like 300 in DF
>>125992715
>>125992715
The one with all the arrows and shit.
>tfw no migrants
Fuck
>>125993246
That's a good thing.
I'm like 90% sure I remember CLA in these threads asking if his c tile looks enough like a cat
Is this good?
>>125993779
I'm right here.
>>125994026
>those second two
>>125994026
actually looks like a bunch of asses.
>>125988520
>nothing bad will happen
OKAY LETS TALK ABOUT ALL THE NOTHING THAT JUST HAPPENED
>goblin bard gets in a brawl with an outpost liason then leaves before I notice
>fuck this shit I just got sieged by goblins and then this fucker pulled that stunt, all goblins on site must be terminated remove kebab
>tell militia to attack goblin bards and scholars
>my dwarves start fighting my militia
>loyalty cascade
>10 dwarves and 2 militia ded.
>>125993978
yes, give it to your sheriff.
>>125994402
Did you accept the goblins petitions to become full citizens and did they make friends?
>>125994026
I'm butt here.
>>125994840
banking on friends.
>>125994854
butt butt here
>>125994840
full citizens doesn't actually work yet
>>125995037
butt butt butt
Why can't I trade caged animals with merchants?
I want to get rid of my trogs.
>>125994026
spurdo on right :-------D
>>125994026
my retarded OC is finally relevant
>>125958856
With a PhD in Mathematics.
>>125958856
Meth and a diet of corn chips and root beer popsicles
>>125958856
Grow up playing and coding ascii games
Why does my fort have a bunch of barons for forts that aren't mine making a bunch of demands in my fort? Suddenly I got spammed by a bunch of messages that my dwarves had inherited the position for various forts.
Is there anything comfier than a midsized fortress full of scholars and entertainers?
>>125997229
You know what to do.
>>125997229
probably means that your civ got a bunch of simultaneous invasions, a bunch of forts fell, and a bunch of barons died
shitty luck
>>125997234
all of that plus oceanside and cold climate
>>125997229
Maybe your entire civilization tantrum spiraled
>>125997630
>>125997632
I was thinking that too, but it was so sudden. There was one baron but then suddenly there was 5 promotions all at the same time. Then a few ticks later I got attacked by a hill titan.
>>125997962
Did you notice when it happened? was it right at the start of the season?
I imagine the baron deaths could have been spread out over some time, but the claims of new ones all get decided at one given time
>>125983963
No one answered so I guess this is not possible?
>>125997962
... Picture your own fortress getting completely annihilated.
With all those inherited barons.And then it all passes onto another fortress.It's an entity-wide tantrum spiral.
Yeah. Shit's getting real.
>>125998129
I didn't answer because I haven't tried since the 42.x update, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't possible in 40.x
>>125998115
That sounds plausable. I could buy that.
>>125998294
That's why I don't want to put all these barons on under-bridge inspection duty, What if it just makes shit worse. It's a small world and I have a fort of 200+ dwarves, It's pretty likely that their heirs also live in my fort and that to get rid of them all I'd have to kill 60% of my dwarves.
>>125998630
Well, you will HAVE to get rid of them, or they will get rid of half of your fortress via hammerer due to petty shit.
>>125998630
Make one of them a Magma Taste Tester and wait to see if anyone else takes over.
If it's a civspiral, become the bastion of your race, the capital of dwarves.
>>125998761
So far their mandates haven't been that bad but I'm hating digging all these manors out and filling them with stuff.
>>125998129
I've only gotten leaves in current version.
Here's hoping that one day dorf children can apprentice instead of growing up to be useless peasants who happen to be amazing conversationalists
>tavern keeper is a 12 year old because I had no place for him
>>126000087
I was hoping that toys would give skills.
>>126000087
>amazing conversationalists
since the update none of the kids in my forts do this any more, they're all autists who insist on playing alone in random hallways (not in meeting zones) and not communicating with anyone, occasionally complaining that some cousin of theirs isn't at the fort
Can a single tavern/library/temple be on multiple z-levels (IE, multiple floors)? Or are they like bedrooms where they do not go up/down ramps/stairs/cliffs/etc?
>>125999240
>I'm hating digging all these manors out and filling them with stuff
I can't imagine why. I usually struggle to find a good excuse for the ridiculous opulence of my forts. I would love to have a noblesplosion.
>>126001081
I've had no trouble assigning rooms or meeting areas on other z-levels to a location if that's what you mean.
Actually I've found it necessary because I simply don't have the real estate to dedicate to a sprawling, one level tavern.
Not that this is so much of a problem because a werebeast spiral killed half my fort, but given my wealth I'll just get more fisherdwarves and actual useful dwarves to fill it soon anyway.
Unless someone got bit, turns into a Were Bison, and finishes off what's left anyway.
>>126001081
yes, you can have multiple levels. the "location" is a collection of zones, and everything contained within those zones is considered part of the location.
here's my library, it's across 3 z-levels but all of the bookcases are considered part of it, and dwarves will often mil around on the middle or top layers pondering things
is it possible to change worldgen so volcanoes appear more often?
>>126002338
Have you even looked at the advanced worldgen menu?
>>126002338
easy. go into advanced worldgen, massively increase "volcanism variance" for both X and Y, and increase the volcano number to whatever you want
first part isn't essential but helps
>>126002474...no (^:
>>126002564
cool thanks
>Militia Commander is a War Leopard
>Wereshit spiral starts
>Leopard is only survivor
What a hero
god I really miss autochop. manually designating trees that are on multiple z levels is so fucking badly coded.
>designate all trees on z 0
>move to z + 1
>designate all trees on z +1
>now the trees on z 0 lose their designation and their trunk on their 2nd level is now designated
>carpenters can't fucking reach it
>>126003119
I assume your civilization had knowledge of leopard taming to allow war training
Moving up and down with ladders or ramps and also diagonally take the same amount of time as moving vertically and horizontally on a single Z-level, right?
Does that mean that square rooms are actually circles since the distance from the middle of one to its sides or diagonals are the same?
>>126003610
what? just don't designate anything that isn't the bottom level of a trunk, it's easy
>>126003621
That's assuming the "is" was a typo and he meant to say Militia Commander HAS a war leopard
>>126004379
I was not being serious. I just meant I've been moving the leopard around to attack hostiles and chase them into traps.
Adventure mode confuses me like fuck.
So I was told there's a criminal organisation in the town Pepperpines. I went there but it seemed like a pretty normal town.
Asked some guy if there's anything troubling them and he told me they recently got conquered by the Confederation of Poems.
Now how the hell do I find these criminal poets and kill them?
Btw is there a way to ask for the location of a tavern for example? I can't seem to find it.
Why won't my dwarves equip boots and gloves from the bin? They're red in spesific armour option too. They equip everything else. Clothes are set on replace.
>>126004261
No it's a feature
Goblins take 3 sites from my civ.
Get 2 nobles, Queen and a Countess.
Countess bans earrings.
>>126004379
Idk because earlier on I recall anon posting about his new war leopard militia commander in an unreplied post
>>126004683
>Btw is there a way to ask for the location of a tavern for example? I can't seem to find it.
If you go into the map (Press T) the taverns are a different colour to the other buildings.
my King just picked a fight with a goblin Dancer. I have no idea who to root for.
>>126004808
Can I get a real answer?
>>126004761
Can be pretty annoying getting it right.
>>126004808
They're whatever shape you like. I like my mental idea that a tile is only a coordinate.
It makes qsps seem like a mountainous heap of stuff, and makes sense of single tile Rocs
>>126005167
they need socks to wear gauntlets?
>>126005167
remove sock
>>126004892
Looks all like the same colour to me.
>>126005304
They'll try getting the best of the best and they end up trying to put on a left when they have a left or something like that.
>>126005771
I have no idea what you're saying. Is this if you do or don't assign them socks?
>>126006375
One sock, the gauntlets are more fucked up because dwarfs with go for the best and they can be right and left handed, can cause a mismatch when they try to pick them up.
Are adamantine clothes uneconomic?
I heard they wear down. Can't you smelt them?
in the squad equipment thing, do I need to assing every dorf 2 boots/gauntlets/etc? If so which exact parts need to be assigned twice?
>trying to link a pressure plate to a door
>hundreds of doors in my fort
>unlike linking with levers, a pressure plate won't let you select the target with your cursor, you have to scroll through the whole list of built doors looking for it
what the fuck
>>126006539
is there no way to fix that
>>126006882
Just once.
>>126005167
works.
>>126006914
Changing the raws though just making just theres more then enough gauntlets should be fine.
How do you get rid of a bin but not the content?
>>126006882
Just 1 if it's "gauntlets", 2 if it's specific gauntlets.
Forges also produce a pair for 1 gauntlet order, same for boots.
>tfw you will never find the source of this gif
>tfw you wll never find a version without the artifacts or lame caption
>>126007594
Forbid the contents, dump the bin I think.
How do you get rid of a bin but not the content? I suspect it's causing some things to get bugged up
>>126007594
Try dumping just the bin
Might work
>>126007897
By forbidding the use of bins in the stockpile it's in, I think.
>>126007594
>>126007897
Fucking 4chan issues
>Overall, the poetry is very, very bad
haven't seen this before. wonder if it's worse than "amateurish at best"
>>126004761
If they're already wearing +pig tail gloves+ they won't remove them to pit on gauntlets
>>126008145
I know, i have them on replace. Now everyone's naked except the ones who got mail and greaves. Got like 10 pair of gauntlets and boots, yet they won't touch them. Just stand around being naked with spears in hand
If all of your dorfs are werecreatures, do you lose when the full moon rolls around?
>>126008303
Do you want to?
>>126008289
Trying moving your squads somewhere, sometimes it jolts them into equipping
>>126008552
Part of me thinks you would lose; you'd get the "Your strength has been broken" message, because you technically have no dorfs. But on the other hand, maybe the game's smart enough to know the werecreatures will turn back eventually and not trigger the "you lose" message.
Does Philosophers researching stuff actually do anything?
>magma doesnt create mist when traveling down z-levels
Does that mean magma-falls are safe?
>>125948527
saw a dwarf moving around incredibly slowly, checked her description page, no mention of a lack of strength.
then I saw this and thought of your dwarf
>she felt pleasure after a satisfying acquisition
I don't know if this is intended behaviour or a bug, but for now at least I'm finding it way too funny to dislike it
>>126008126
pic related
>>126008772
If you're gonna lose from having all werecreatures, it would be the moment they are all infected, I would imagine, not on the full moon when they turn.
It all depends on how the game internally handles a werecreatures state.
- Are they simply dwarves with an "infected" tag on them that gets checked for once a month, and if present changes them into a werecreature for a little bit>
or
- Are they a Werecreature with a "dwarf" tag, that just changes its shape and behaviour once a month
>>125948527
>>126009781
It appears that the needs system actually introduced hoarding behaviour and cleptomania, kek.
>>126008303
no.
>>126009265
no
>>126009492
yes unless there is something at the bottom you don't want covered in magma.
>>126009781
you would think tin would be lighter.
>>126010362
>you would think tin would be lighter.
yeah, I stupidly hoped that would be the case when I decided to make metal wheelbarrows
just realised that she doesn't own a chest, maybe I'll make her (a tin) one and she can stick her new buddy there?
probably hoping for too much
>>126010664
can't be worse than me trying to get 3000 stones piled up for atom smashing.
>>126010789
did you dig out 4-5 z levels over that area or did you fuck with the drop rate of mining stones?
>>126011049
the former. all at a blistering 40 fps.
>>126008303
They'll kill each other.
Had two werelizards... made the one that lived wonder the caverns in a permanent patrol in a full set of admanatine with a spear.
Dropped the armor when turned but kept the spear.
>>126011191
But do you lose the instant they all turn?
My first very successful fort with hundreds of steel and life is good.
Hit the magma and now it's time for what comes with it. I have a [T]rack carved from a safe place down to the magma forges/smelters.
What advice can you give for babby's first minecart track? The loading/dumping is hard for me to understand. I just want them to quickly haul food and bars down to the workers. They're gonna be burrowed down there eventually.
>>126011292
No they still count, my whole fort died to clowns and she was still wandering the caverns.
>>126011191
Werebeasts of the same type aren't hostile to one another.
Just added a healing rate to cartilage. Was happy to see that immediately after I fired up the game again the few dwarves and the goblin dancer who were bleeding out constantly quickly ran to the hospital for treatment for there broken noses and torn ears.
I'm a little confused that this is still a "bug" these days, the fix for it take no time at all. But, I've had such bad luck with modding up to this point I'm glad it worked so well.
>>126011631
They go berserk, unless thats been changed in 42.
40 fps seems luxurious now.
>>126011750
They don't go berserk, they're just hostile to everything that isn't the same as them. Berserk is a kind of insanity. And it's not changed, it's been that way since werebeasts were introduced.
How do I keep my dorfs from turning all the fucking thread into cloth so the hospital has some thread?
Am I the only autist here who actually sits down and plans the entire fortress on a sheet of paper before starting the game?
>>126012223
(o)rders
turn off auto loom under the workshop section
>>126012313
yes
>>126012184
They went berserk for me when they turned killing each other.
>>126008303
Following up >>125922703, the answer seems to be no.
>>126012064
A chopped down tree left an open space I wasn't aware of.
Hundreds of goblins are outside but they trickle in through this hole.
>>126012223
[o]->[W]->[l]
and read the wiki page on standing orders, it's pretty important stuff
>>126012313
are you prescient and somehow know the locations and depths of all the features in a fort before you start digging?
Or are you just talking about doodling little fractals like a girl?
>>126012532
meanwhile 22 levels below engravers are still happily working away on the cathedral that may never be finished.
>>126012646
Since when does planning out refer to the visual component? Of course its about placing the things that matter, from meeting halls to royal quarters to all the industries
>>126012417
Probably a loyalty bug, or the miltary orders bug. It happens.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Werebeast
Explains it, and also answers the other relevant questions.
>tfw every world gen is shite
I always get this singular strip of land running from pole to pole.
>>126012698
They've taken the northern gates.
>>126013073
that takes 20 seconds as you wait for your dwarves to unpack the cart. Yes, you are the only one.
>Since when does planning out refer to the visual component?
since architecture was invented thousands of years ago
Is Toady planning to add something like object maintenance so wear can be removed from stuff?
Hey /dfg/, how dangerous are trolls? Is it anything special if a dwarf manages to kill like 8 of them alone while only getting lightly injured?
Because there's an adventurer interrupting a siege at the moment and she's a speardwarf who is just annihilating anything that comes near her, a couple of groups of trolls tried to swarm her and she just dodged and headstabbed them until they died.
I give up. The fucking dwarves refuse to even consider wearing iron gauntlets/boots in the list. Even if it lies there right on the stockpile in front of them, it doesn't even show in the spesific piece menu, no matter what i do.
>>126013662
not very dangerous for someone with decent skills. they're strong as fug but usually have no skills and often no weapons. they're only an issue at all in sieges because they can swim (I think) and are building destroyers
>>126013662
is she going into a "martial trance"? Some of the soldiers who have visited my forts have done some crazy shit while doing that.
>>125980059
34.11 -> 40.01 little over a year
What are you on about anon?
>>126013810
sometimes, although she's definitely been killing them after exiting the trance too, she just dodges or parries blows and goes for head attacks constantly, every troll she's killed died due to a tendon/nerve in the brain being torn.
>>126013789
Ok, good to know. Usually I just overwhelm enemies with squads so seeing a single dwarf fuck up 8 trolls in a row got me wondering how dangerous they actually were.
>>126013662
They're like wrestlers. Very dangerous to civilians but a joke to military.
>>126013181
Well I survived the siege.
I killed 120 of the 200 goblins and the rest fucked off.
It took over a week to kill the final one because my entire surviving militia was just bashing their fucking shields against its head then passing out from exhaustion.
After the last gobbo died I retired the fort. I don't care about building temples enough to put up with 20 fps.
>>126014283
Trolls can have weapons.
>>126003610
What the fuck do you need all those trees for? 1 tree can be like 50 wood if it's big enough.
Can a door only have a single lever/pressureplate attached to it? My dwarves keep canceling a connecting job because they "cannot find path", even though both sides of the door are accessible.
>>126012417
Definitely a result of them remembering being attacked by/attacking others.
If I go bite people as a weremammoth and fast travel so they turn, when I come back they're still pissed at me, but if they bite someone else and I travel again, the other people are only pissed at the one that bit them, not me necessarily.
If I walk in while two of these other-bite-caused weremammoths are killing some humans they will all be listed as my ally.
>>126015214
yeah, seems to be the case. I guess it's something to do with accessing the door (once it's flagged as 'operated by mechanisms' it's as good as forbidden, maybe)
I end up using bridges instead whenever I can, although that's annoying because of the slight delay they have
>>126015687
the issue is that the door needs to be openable to put a mechanism on, because the mechanic has to be on the same tile as the door. Doors that are linked to levers cannot be opened except by pulling the lever.
Try opening the door then link the second lever.
>retire fort
>check legends
>oh apparently i'm at war with so and so, the humans
>start a new fort
>check back 6 years later
>45 battles
>5 human victories
>40 dwarven
>but the humans took the first mountain hall founded by my dwarven civilization
one
job
>>126016372
All you had to do was mine candy.I'd really like a siege mode as an alternate start for DF, you pick a site to claim/reclaim and embark as normal, but the fortress is controlled by NPCs and you have to capture it
Woody started a brawl... I think its time she went on a exploration mission.
>>126017671
Yeah it'd be pretty cool to "claim" a site as an adventurer and be able to retire as an adventurer then unretire it as a fort.
>>126017797
Not as adventurer, though I'd like that as a possibility as well, I meant an actual player-controlled siege, maybe an ability to spend points on more dorfs to start with.
>goblin poet goes beserk, starts attacking the other scholars
refugees were a mistake, remove gobab. Its always the gobbies causing trouble
>>126016003
huh, that's a good idea, I'll try it
So my current fortress has no water on the surface and after exploring deep underground looking for water in caverns I haven't been able to find any either. Is it possible to have an embark with absolutely no water sources? Is there anyway for me to maybe import water? Sorry for the dumb question, I'm new to the game.
>>126017993
Stop being a goblinophobe, it's 255 for Armok's sake.
>>126013904
>little over a year
There was no DF2013
do odors have any major impact? I've never detected one.
>>126017993
Only a minority of the goblins are supporting the demon masters, and the ones who come to you do so to flee the oppression.
>>126018190
>>126018508
when there are 10x as many goblins as dwarves in the world, it doesn't matter if the evil ones are a minority
My goblin dance the king beat up is now succumbing to infection though, which makes me feel kinda bad
Gonna be a good one.
>>126018726
Same site, at the base.
>>126018676
>>>/magmasea/ you bigoted GELDERMASTER
UGH I thought dwarves were better than this.
>embark
>aquifer in the first layer
Should I abandon and try again?
>>126018726
the hell are those formations
>>126019065
No, you build a giant floating penis and slam it into mother Earth.
You tear Earth a fucking new hole and send your little drones into its womb.
>>126018726
>>126018909
And a nice little wooded plateau near the top. The rim of the volcano is only 18 z high here, so I'll be able to shave it flush with the ground easily.
>>126019065
you should gitgud and go through it then enjoy your limitless water.
>>126019168
A row of mountain peaks. This is a pretty high elevation site. Strangely, the southern portion of the embark is the mountain biome, I guess carved into a valley by the brook, and the portion north of the peaks is a swamp. You would expect the elevations to be reversed.
>>126019314
>>126019174
b-but digging cancellation spam!
>>126019314
>>126019174
if there is only 1 Z-level between him and the aquifer, and it doesn't freeze in the winter, he's shit outta luck.
>>126019582
Pumps can solve anything.
>>126019582
no, he's not. read what anon wrote >>126019174
plus pumping water out and constructing walls, or all the other methods OTHER than the cave in method.
just open the wiki and follow along
>>126019576
I'd pay hard money for toady to add notify+pause on cancellation toggles.
>watching marksdwarves shoot a roc out of the sky, bringing it down right next to your waiting axe and swordsdawarves, who tear it to pieces
ridiculously satisfying
>>126019841
you can't build a "giant penis" that won't just deconstruct when you drop it.
Yes, he could frantically try to pump the water out while trying to build walls, which is a retarded and inelegant way to solve the problem, its easy to forget it exists.
>I'd pay hard money for toady to add notify+pause on cancellation toggles
too bad! here gay ducks, fuck you!
>>126019841
>digging adamantine
>digging designation cancelled; warm stone x100
rolling for choice
sandy barren embark
adjacent to humans, declare war on humans
adjacent to dark pit, proceed as normal
volcano
snowy relaxing fun time
1-5 and 6-0 repeats
>>126020207
What happens if a civilization declares war on you anyway? Does entire dorf civilization you are in goes to war, or just your fortress?
>>126020578
depends if its "war". if you kill traders and diplomats they'll siege you but I don't think they care about the civ as a whole. Just you in particular. but if your civ goes to war with another civ then you're automatically at war with em.
>>126020128
Not the worst thing that can happen
>>126020789
Civs don't declare war against single sites. If you provoke a war with humans or elves, your entire civ will be at war with them.
Just found that my designated fishing zone is no longer considered fishable for no apparent reason. I remember someone else complaining about that recently, does anyone know the cause/fix?
>>126021397
can you show me this?
I put war in quotation marks on purpose bud As in, its just sieges against you.
>>126021397
>century of peace
>even goblins are relatively docile
>start being a giant asshole
>plunge the world into war again
DEVILISH
>>126021493
i mean is it a river/replenishable source of feeesh?
>>126012420
Finally, in mid-spring, the migrants come. And the first thing they do is finish building the trade depot so that the elven traders can come in, which makes them several times more useful than my previous dwarves. Not that the elves will likely be leaving for a while, since I'm walling the front entrance off to keep out Little Miss Meteorkingdom, so I hope they like their salty alcohol. Also, while the newbies are going to work on their own easily enough, nobody's taken up leadership, so I have no ability to assign noble positions. The outpost liaison never left the fort after meeting with my then-leader, so he isn't exactly able to tell anyone that we need new leadership, either.
Also, there's some troll that broke into the fort from the cavern doors and then decided to do literally nothing upon reaching the bedrooms, even now that there are people inside again.
>>126021685
its a small reservoir filled directly by a brook. My dwarves happily fished from there for quite some time, now they don't anymore and when I go to the zone designation it says Fishing(0), when before it was Fishing(20)
>>126021997
weird.
>>126021536
You're only sieged by civs you're at war with. There's no such thing as a siege outside the context of a war, aside from necro attacks. Next time it happens to you, press 'c'. Highlight your own civ, and the civ sieging you will have a 'W' next to it. Because your civ is at war with them.
There's something very relaxing about watching your fortress crumble
Is this even made of slate?
is it just me or is gem cutting/setting just not worth the effort
>>126023392
Until there's a cut all gems option I agree
>>126022648
No, that's just the color of its hair. It's a normal organic terrifying ancient beast. A word of warning, even though it doesn't say so, it has webs. Spider-shaped FBs get them for free.
>>126023695
You can with dfhack but obviously, that's out of our reach at the moment.
>>125950404
It'd be so heavy that a dwarf would pretty much get one swing per fight with it. At least that's what I remember from some dude doing math on it on the bay12 forums.
>>125981534
Magma solves every problem.
My legends viewer keeps crashing when I want to look at the human civilisation the confederation of poems.
Is there something obvious I could be doing wrong or does legends viewer maybe not work much with the latest DF version?
>>125972682
Stomp the yard and then stomp their noses.
>decide to blow thousands of dwarf-bucks on some copies of books the human caravan brought around, so my scholars have something to do
>The Hill Titan Egeb Shodukingtak has come! An enormous feathered eight-legged tortoise. It has a regal bearing. Its auburn feathers are long and broad. Beware its fire!
>Storms the trade Depot
>toasts all my newly acquired books and everything else
shit
>>126022648
No, slate is a color.I kind of want to add slade and adamantium to forgotten beast materials just to punish myself more.
>>126024541
>book-burning
someday, when books/knowledge actually influence the way civs behave, this will be a really fun thing to do as an adventurer
how do I deal with a werebeast infection
got a wereshrew done tried to fuck up my fortress, sent my shitty militia after it because it was already past the gate by the time it was spotted
bunch of people died tryna fuck it up, it'd been a month and now most of the rest of my militia just transformed into wereshrews as well
am I fucked? should I just wall off the part of my fortress I can save?
>>126024083
Is it the latest version of Legends Viewer?
Mine works but will crash at certain things, like people created after the initial world gen.
>>126024783
Come on, you can't make simple decisions like that nigga?
>>126024783
it's more how to deal with the dwarves that are infected
and are now infected because everyone went ape shit trying to build the walls
Lost 20 dwarves and the other half are injured now, so I'm assuming next month half my population is going to be bloodthirsty, right? (Aside from tantrumers and the insane)
>>126025130
atom smash anyone who was bitten and drew blood.
>>126025130
Aw shit I lost my war grizzlies in the conflict too
>>126025387
thats way worse than losing ~20 dorfs.
Dorfs are easy to replace. Exotic war animals take a long time to acquire.
>he doesn't have elves to share a coke with.
How can I TF my whole fortress into Werebeasts, and am accepting casualties? Not really asking for a blueprint or anything, but just a few papa tips and maybe a sodee pop to steer me in the right direction
>>126025605
>Hey anon, why are you taking a picture of that coke bottle?
>F-for the m-memes
>>126025804
>>126025605
>>126025772
just when I mentioned sodee pops, here's a sodee pop post
not to be that guy, but it was inevitable given soda is ubiquitous enough
>>126025542
I got a breeding pair from two elven caravans, I was so psyched to have my own warband of angry grizzlies at my disposal.
The wereshrew was a legendary olm man. The dorfs he infected were pretty fuckin strong too I guess.
>>126025772
Cage traps when a dwarf gets knocked out they'll end up in a cage.
>>126025804
Memes are something we are all responsible for cultivating anon, whether intentional or not its the duty of every anon to shitpost whenever they feel they must. Shitposing is the source of all memes, a necessary evil.
>>126024787
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11455
It's this one, I guess it's the latest.
managed to trap the fire-breathing, book-burning tortoise for a little while, but its been a while since I've chopped down any trees, there is quite a forest out there and its all on fire.
I just know some flaming logs are gonna come crashing through the roof of my farm
>>126025772
If you're the guy with the wereshrew it shouldn't be too hard. They might be the smallest werebeasts out there. Basically you just have to get all your dwarves bitten. Anyone who survives the bite will turn the next month. Isolating your infected with unarmed dwarves will make it easier. Just watch combat logs to see who you can let out of your isolation chambers. The more dwarves become infected, the fewer survivors there will be each month, so isolation is almost necessary to get the last 20% or so to turn. Then you only have to worry about visitors being slaughtered and the occassional minor loyalty cascades that it can cause.
>>126026365
Naw, that's a different guy, probably inspired by my pain.
Didn't smash them quickly enough, had 4 dwarves that weren't infected and a migrant wave came right before they transformed. Have 12 dwarves left, 4 of them infected. Just gonna wait until the next transformation and say my farewells to Bloodysyrup.
>burned two slabs of meat
>immolated an onion
>cooked an egg
>cracked open my best winegin
>justbooted downmy PC
TIME FORa long nights sleep
Why won't my toons do anything?
I give order but they just sit around doing jack shit.
Can I tell one of my toons explicitly to GO DO SOMETHING FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>126027308
have you tried watching a tutorial?
>>126027308
>toons
get the fuck out and never return
>>126027308
You need to have a manager to use orders. Have you tried using designations? Also, you really should look up a tutorial.
>>126027308
>toons
>>126027308
Double click thesims4.exe
That will fix it.
A dragon has shown up wonder if the fort will die now.
>>126027494
>>126027647
there's nothing wrong with toon
>>126027308
>toons
Well it might be over now.
>>126028603
>>126027308
samefag
>>126028690
Do you not have a military?
>mfw I figured out how to use minecarts and shafts for instant delivery to z-level 150
Now I can build that magma palace.
>>126028690
He's just going to bust those doors down, just so you know.
>>126024541
>buy some books
>suddenly necro siege before they're hauled
>keas steal the fucking books
>>126018726
>and lo Armok did create a mountain of tits, and Armok said "it was good"
>>126022648
Post tileset
Legends told me of a beast attack that happened, gave me a giggle
>>126029218
I think I will try to learn this next. Exploration and exploitation of my caverns deep down takes alot time and slow downs any other actions in fort.
>>126029145
>>126029271
He was fine just standing their till someone walked infront of the cage traps then he burned them
>>126030720
Are Keas like that in real life?
>>126031314
By reputation, yeah. I've never met one myself, but they're said to be notoriously brazen thieves and very destructive. And they're protected by NZ law.
Naked mole dogs are fucking annoying assholes
>>126031659
Kill and eat.
>>126004683
Is it possible that by "criminal organisation" they meant that entire human civ that took over that site?
Is it possible to take over a site and give it to a different civ in adv mode?
Fucker trys to go up the stairs... brings the dragon now.
I was going to build a wall and you had to ruin it you fucking bastard.
>>126031954
Criminal organizations are "groups" not civs, but they do take over sites. They show up in legends as a war between a civ and a group within that civ. When they succeed the site is still owned by the same civ, though. Incidentally, I've only seen this happen in human civs in legends. Not sure why.
Unfortunately you can only claim sites for yourself currently.
>>126018909
OH GOD MUH DICK
I WANT THAT, ITS ALMOST 2DFORT
>>126030676
Here it is.
Dragon died after bleeding out.
Pros.
Queen and other noble is dead.
Legendary Weaponsmith and Armorsmith are still alive.
All the useless Dwarfs got burnt and elfs.
Cons.
Dragon died.
A goblin is now King.
Miners are dead.
Hauling.
plump spawn rules:
set helmets to not cook
have seed bin seperated from other food
??????
what am i missing, besides enough seed by year 2
>>126033712
It's really not. Didn't you see the other pics of the same embark?
How big do you make your embark zones?
I got a pretty decent computer, can play all the modern games and stuff, but I'm not sure how well DF scales with bigger embarks
I dunno, I kind of wanna try something bigger than 4x4 but I don't want to run into major lag issues after a couple of days of gameplay
>>126033557
>The Amber Fellowship of The Mechanical Nation , founded Pepperpines in 83 and taken over in 250 by The Confederation of Poems
>The Autumnal League of The Confederation of Poems , took over Pepperpines in 250 and UNKNOWN in 252
Is the autumnal league the criminal organisation then?
>>126034379
How did he get killed?
>>126034482
i prefer 3x3, but try big if you want. pick a boring embark. i find the scrolling around the worse part
>>126034610
Pretty much was too wounded and just died while a human was attacking it.
>>126034379
reminds me of the time I had to restart from an old save because a captured dragon burnt the entire forest around my fort and the fps dropped to single digists for over 15 mins
>>126034473
DONT CARE
STRAIGHT WALL, ALMOST NO RAMPS IN IT, RIVER RIGHT AFTER IT
I LOVE IT
>have never used the double slit
>want to learn it
>remember why I never use it
>>126034494
Maybe? Was the confederation of poems a civ or a group? If it was a group then my theory goes out the window, because that would mean that the autumnal league was a group within a group, and I didn't think that was a thing that happened.
>>126035147
Don't forget the magma on the same z level.
However I doubt there's a chasm and a cave river before the magma.
>>126035156
wat
Is this a good game yet?
I can't open the historical maps in Legends mode, pressing Enter just moves my "FPS" display around. Any ideas?
>>126034379
>goblin king
Time to purge.
>>126035297
It's a human civ that attacked that site as part of a war with a different human civ.
People at the site complain about the occupation by the confederation of poems.
>>126035420
Double slit is for getting past an aquifer by the use of a pump and walls.
You have to build stuff on tiles with water level of 1-2.
Your dorfs will cancel construction immediately when the water level is at 2, but if you keeeep ooon telling them to build the damn thing, EVENTUALLY they will build it.
I did this, too, in my fort recently.
After I was finally done I got overrun by zombies.
>>126035596
No, we're just memers perpetrating an elaborate hoax.
>>126035792
I mean is it an actual game and not a weird sandbox for autists that can only have fun by setting absurd goals like building an in-game Turing machine instead of actually simulating a dwarf fortress yet?
>>126035596
Why, of course! Dwarf Fortress™ has provided thousands of players with endless hours of fun.
>>126035596
I've never played a version of this game that was bad.
>>126035945
It will never not be a weird sandbox. There's no winning. No pre-determined goals. And there never will be.
>>126035959
>I've never played a version of this game that was bad.
I'll take this as my answer. It's just Toady's autism cult still. See you guys in six months.
>>126036130
nah, don't come back
>>126036130
If you want a version of the game that has an actual end game and stuff like dwarven economy, go back to the final 2d version.
Guest turned... and shes berserk.
>>126035945
>its not a game because I don't like the way anons on a swiss broom-shining forum play
pleb af tbph
>>126035780
Tell me it shouldn't have taken over an hour to do this double slit
>>126035780
Interesting. I've never seen two civs of the same race at war with each other. Apparently human civs have some values procedurally generated now, so maybe it's a new thing.
I'm going to speculate that the members of the mechanical nation are treating the occupying force from the confederation of poems as an outlaw group, either because the game doesn't know how to talk about occupying forces yet, or because they actually are an outlaw group who was practicing cross-civ banditry. It's just a guess, though. That whole scenario even being possible is news to me.
>>126036595
Toady made it so human civs have random ethics.
>>126036130
>six months
Normies are so cute with their optimistic naivete.
>>126036595
The weird thing is that I came from the hill dwarves more in the north, they told me I should go there because of a criminal organisation.
I guess that dwarven civ might see the confed poem civ as a criminal organisation, but they were apparently never at war with them.
>>126036723
Yes, I noted that in the second sentence of the post you responded to.
>just finished cleaning up the mess the hill titan made of the caravan.
>he burned all the crap, leaving metal goods, cut gems, and guard caravan corpses behind
>goblins notice my wealth has suddenly bumped way up
>A Vile force of darkness has come!
no rest for the wicked
>>126036849
Have any of the locals at pepperpines complained about criminals? Try asking randoms about the local leadership.
>>126030720
>>126031314
>>126031590
input a search 'kea destroys car' on almost any video site, you'll get hundreds of videos.
>>126035945
It's always been an actual game. It's just also a world simulation.
>instead of actually simulating a dwarf fortress yet?
I've had more forts than I can count where I did this. It's likely all veterans of the game did this innumerable amounts of times before moving on to more complicated things.
> that can only have fun by setting absurd goals
If that's how they want to play, then that's whatever. Personally I get a lot of enjoyment by reading legends and using my adventurers and fortresses to act on the world around me.
If you don't find enjoyment in that, or any of the fuck ton of possibilities, then this game simply isn't for you.
>>126037240
Here's a hilldwarf mayor talking about them as criminals.
I'll go to Pepperpines again soon.
My last guy got mauled by a lion in the streets.
>"ambush" oh it's probably just merchants or something
>wait what is rushing towards me so fast there
>>126036130
What are you so butthurt over, faggot? I've played just three versions of the game and I had fun playing all of them. Does that trigger you or something you fuck?
Tode Angsturstrodno, goblin dancer has died of complications due to injuries sustained in a drunken bar brawl with the king of WeaverTrade.
RIP the only goblin in my fort who didn't throw the first punch
I hope senpais real fucking proud of me because that took over an hour to do.
Fuck. that.
>>126036908
[VARIABLE_VALUE:ALL:-30:30]
>>126037542
Pretty sure that refers to the criminals that are in the dungeon areas below a town's castle, not the whole town in question.
>>126037649
He dindu nuffin
he a good gob
he just needed dwarfbux for dem programs
It's amazing the shit you don't notice when you're testing out other shit.
Make a new character who starts out with their weapon in the left hand, strap them to your body, draw them. The weapon ends up in your right hand... I don't even know how that works, but I've been brainpunching so I never even noticed it.
>>126020030
>being a godly buffed adventurer on a hunt for buff items to leave at a site for another adventurer along with scrolls of your interesting collected dance/poetry/musical styles
>need a roc heart for one of the buffs
>run up and punch it directly in the brain so hard it is literally dead before it hits the ground
Also ridiculously satisfying
>check the books in my library
>some of the copies I just bought from the human caravan were copies of original works produced in my own damn fort
piracy is theft.
>>126037772
Last time I was there I looked through all of the castle and couldn't find a single person.
Is that normal? Maybe I missed something?
>>126037652
what am I looking at?
a staircase?
>0006352: [Creatures] Moon snail men can't punch or see (Toady One) - resolved.
So glad he's tackling the important issues.
>>126037652
>gypsum and mudstone
Not to scare you, anon, but there could be more aquifer under that if you have conglomerate or siltstone layers next.
>Notice a child in my hospital
>Another bar brawl? I really should burrow the kids somewhere else
>check the combat logs
>this is all it says
I don't get it. Either part of the log is missing already (which is possible, its a couple weeks later), or this kid just tripped so hard he flew across the room and bounced off a minecart before slamming into a wall.
>>126039092
did he maybe get knocked over by the minecart first, and it just didn't show up on the combat log?
>>126038657
Was there other people in the town?
>>126039058
thankfully I dug a victory staircase to the magma sea before retiring and there were no mo.
>>126039092
Sometimes events are reported in the wrong order in combat reports. Like when you see a goblin lose hold of a shoe and a sock before the line where his foot is cut off. Maybe that's what happened there and he was just hit by the minecart.
>>126038814
>people who post shit like this and pretend that it didn't take toady all of thirty seconds to see the error in his code
>>126039418
>>126039542
The only minecarts I have in my fort are stationary, so I'm not sure how it could have struck him.
>>126039572
More like he pretends Toady has any obligations to tackle whattever this faggot wants and that bitching here will solve anything
>>126038161
Relevant picture, left hand/food are the first options = left handed, but if you strap and draw your weapon/shield they wind up with the weapon in the right hand, if you pick something up with empty hands, it winds up in your right hand.
>>126037652
Yadonegoodanon
>>126036264
Weeeeee!
>>126035596
>implying a wonderful bag of weirdness and chaos and procedurally generated stories is something as banal as a game
>>126030549
>first thing I thought of as well
>hope to god the fort is named Moltenbusts or something similar
>>126024715
They influence the way the people in the civs behave, all the ideas and shit in libraries being so varied in some sites might be why they're all bloodbaths.
>>126024145
>You slam your foot on the ground to conclude your performance and the severed part sails off in an arc!
>>126039572
>people who post this shit thinking Toady just nonchalantly sifts through millions of lines of spaghetti code and stumbles upon an error in snail men
Thats not how bug fixing works. He saw bug reports that said
>Buckets are left half full all over the fortress, no one will touch them
>Dwarves with broken noses will invariably bleed to death since they can't heal
>Dwarves are dying in the trees
>Dwarves can't have certain jobs and still be in the militia
>Snail men can't punch
And he picked what he thought was highest priority.
>>126039448
>>126037240
Yes there's people in the town.
When I ask them about trouble, they tell me about the occupation by the confederation of poems.
They don't seem to mention any criminals.
Also, I can't seem to ask anything about the local leaders.
>>126040263
This is so weird, there is not a single soul in this castle and I can't ask the people about their leadership, but they still complain about being occupied.
Maybe I should just claim the site for myself.
>>126040819
Claimed the site for myself, but they still complain about the occupation by poem confeds.
There's not even anyyyyy poem confeds in this town.
I literally just started and this happened.
The hell? There's no monster or anything anywhere. As far as I can tell he got attacked by logs.
>>126041295
the people you're talking to must be part of the confederation of poems. kill them all.
>>126041518
did he chop a tree?
because i believe felling accidents are rare but possible
i'll consider giving woodcutters dodge skills now
>>126041518
Logs fell on him.
>>126041295
I always have a feeling taverns in this city are just completely empty houses.
>>126041594
Good call.
>>126041718
that'll teach those bastards.
>>126041518
There is unrest in the forest, and the trouble... is the trees. The dorfs just want their charcoal, and the elves just fap to leaves.
>>126040034
>>people who post this shit thinking Toady just nonchalantly sifts through millions of lines of spaghetti code and stumbles upon an error in snail men
Not what I said, at all.
>And he picked what he thought was highest priority.
Or he saw it, thought, "Hey, I know what could be causing that, let me take a look at the code" and fixed it.
>>126041714
We had to build a carpenter's shop and put the stonecrafter to work making buckets just so they could bring water to the carpenter.
As far as I can tell they just left the bucket next to him and he's too unconscious to drink it.
10/10 woodcutter.
>>126042405
he is pretty fucked. if he's still alive at time of reading this post to the following quickly.
press [I] (uppercase i) make a 5x5 zone near him press h. this is now your field hospital. it needs 3 things fast. a bed, a table adjacent to the bed, and a few boxes or bags to hold items.
they will treat him there.
during all this you need to make 1 splint and 1 crutch at the carpenter.
>>126042613
I'm on it.
God save us.
For the first time I've ever played dwarf fort I'm coming close to having a food shortage due to the nearly ninety patrons in my tavern constantly devouring everything.
If it becomes more of a problem, is it a simple matter to slaughter all the freeloaders?
>>126042918
DON'T FORGET TO ASSIGN ALL THE DOCTOR SKILLS TO A DWARF THAT ISN'T BUSY.
>>126042613
>>126042918
Choppers!
We've got wounded!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo
>>126043128
I had a very similar problem with this. Booze for me.
The solution was easy. Send all my dwarves to a danger burrow outside of the tavern and have one wall it off.
The problem sorts itself out.
That was my second try. My first resulted in >>125994402
when I sent my militia in and upon killing my dwarves friends they started fighting each other.
>>126043128
Oh and naturally edit your init or d_init to cap visitors at like 10 or 50, whatevers reasonable to you. Or simply remove the damn locations.
>elven performer comes to town and performs seriously mediocre poetry
>uses a dwarven style of poetry that's intended to "satirize mining"
I think he's making fun of my citizens
>>126043854
Magma
>>126042613
>>126042918
>>126043348
>>126043409
I've got bins, bags, a table, a bed, a splint, a crutch, and a chief medical dwarf. A traction bench is also on the way. We need thread for a suture. We don't have time to grow pig tails so I've going to build a farmer's workshop and sheer my sheep.
Also the miner took over the bed because he's an asshole.
>at war with humans
>embark in the middle of their hinterland on top of their main road
come at me you soft cunts.
>>126043981
make sure you've given him actual doctor skills, the position is mostly useless.
build 4 beds around the table fuck it. whatever, just get it done.
>>126044183
The trooper is back on his feet and back to work. Also he's crippled.
>>125955127
>>125997229
looks like this is becoming a staple of 42.x
some of them are actually useful, and they all have kids here too I think, so magma is not really a solution
>>126044859
Well it would happen more often seeing as humans might go to war with dwarfs.
>>126044706
the bone will probably mend itself as long as nerves and tendons are still ok.
>>126044859
What the hell. Four at once?
Maybe they were all in exile at another site and it got conquered. Maybe you're the last bastion of your civ.
>>126040034
>And he picked what he thought was highest priority.
Highest priority = easiest fix
>>126044042
I love that my wagon is parked in the middle of the road too. And there's a perfect hole to build my entrance in.
I think I'll strike the magma sea then build a fortress above to guard this road.
>>126045169
>>126044967
I'm guessing we just got invaded, yeah. humans are a non-factor in this world, but elves and goblins are pretty healthy
faithfulstockade has been abandoned for 40-some years so I'm not sure why I'm getting a message about it now, but the more the merrier I suppose
silver furniture creation on repeat
>>126040020
>hope to god the fort is named Moltenbusts or something similar
Sorry, it's Windboulders.
>>126036264
If it was a guest you would've gotten that announcement when he entered the map untransformed, unless he was infected at your fort, in which case the transformation would've just generated a normal announcement without a pop up. He was stealthed, and generated the announcement popup on discovery.
>>126045281
That dingy brown landscape is gonna look real nice when you paint it with the blood of your enemies.
>fuck up a pump
>the mud never disappears
ruins my mood
>>126046538
build a floor over it and deconstruct it
>>126044859
they're mandating large gems and ballista parts and shit
oh god make it stop
>>126046538
>fuck up a double slit aquifer breach
>alt f4
makes me want to off myself
>>126048714
>my last save was before I began
>this asshole fishing in my aquifer dig
Dead thread. Bumping with a sexy rock.
>intrusive and metamorphic layers
wow all the fucking not iron I can feast on
Rate my tower's residence quarter.
>>126053539
looks like that dorf is about to fish up some trouble
>>126057527
looks like a menorah
>>126057527
bedrooms literally on the stairwell/10
>>126057748
Hardly any trees.
Giant magpies and a sponge man.
>getting a taste of candy in my second year because fuck that three layer aquifer I had to go through to get here
>giant toads fucking my shit up and have to draft my miners
>>126057864
Oopes forgot to post pic and linked wrong. was too busy wondering how to lay this out.
>he has a gaunt appearance
>he is fat
make up your mind demon
>>126057527
>22 beds
>residence
wow son that should hold half a migration wave
>3x3 stairs
here's your reply
>>126029218
>not building a pyramid megaproject to keep your food stockpiles in
>trying to get rid of this overhang so i can build floors and some ranparts
>miner manages to collapse the whole thing twice and cripples themselves
welp
doing modifications to default underground trees
> mushroom caps removed because they were fucking up the growth heights, replaced with pseudo-caps by making branches very dense and renaming them to mushroom parts
> many "mushrooms" reduced in height, widened slightly, grow much faster, and can grow on level 1 (so they'll be exported by dwarves and can be taken on embark)
> tower cap has the same weight as willow trees
> blood thorn trees have "vein" growths on all branches that are dark purple and change color through seasons (but never fall off)
> spore trees drop raw-edible/cookable "spore tree fruit spawn" starting 1/4 the way into spring and ending 3/4 the way into winter
need further suggestions for tree uses/abilities without adding any new species. current thoughts so far:
> blood thorns drip blood and can provide an extract from logs; what effect should this have?
> goblin/black/nether caps can be brewed into a drink with some more serious effect? milled into dyes?
> fungiwood paper products?
Jesus christ, dorfs are durable as shit
>>126060712
Hey stop trying to make them nice and friendly, if anything these mushrooms need to be out to get dwarfs.
So I just started a new fortress and for some reason my dorfs won't use the furniture stockpile, leaving all the finished furniture in the carpenter's/mason's workshop until it is needed. I already tried making a new stockpile, new workshops, forbidding and unforbidding all the goods. Did I overlook something?
>woodcutter cuts down a tree
>start getting combat reports
>the tree fell on a kobold
Yo dog, I heard...
>>126062847
It's just concentric circles that get smaller forever.
My first attempt at a moat was almost a disaster. Despite painstaking efforts to prevent an accident, I still ended up channeling one tile too close to the river.
I mined out an entrance into my fort from the bottom of the channel so my miners could get out after digging the moat. It was still open when the flooding occurred. The fortress was at risk for being flooded and destroyed and Innumerable lives were hanging in the balance.
But Zaneg "Cityelder" Inoethekir, a skilled mason and armorer, was in the moat for some reason when the disaster occurred. He was the only one close enough who could wall up the gap and save the fortress in time. But there was one problem - he only had enough time to fill the gap from where he was standing and had no choice but to trap himself in the moat with imminent death.
And yet he survived. He walled up the gap, got flooded with water, climbed up five z-levels frantically, and got to safety.
I do not know how he did this, but our fortress has been saved and our hero has emerged unscathed.
>>126063026
>I mined out an entrance into my fort from the bottom of the channel
That doesn't seem like the best idea.
My dorfs just killed an Ettin.
How do I check which dorf killed? Do I have to check all dorfs individually?
>>126063258
combat log (r).
Awww, look at them all laying there, like peaceful little murderangels.
Making my crafts out of gold rather then stone how many migrants will I get?
>>126063320
If we can just tiptoe away... damn, so it begins.
>>126063026
> 1 tile wide moat
anon, invaders can and will jump across
they'll also climb trees to get on top of constructed walls, jump down from branches if they extend past your moat, and climb up unsmoothed stone walls
>>126063461
FUCK.
Well I gained irrigation XP.
>>126063461
>>126063551
Okay now this is better.
>>126063317
Thanks!
This guy also killed an elf so he is definitely going to be my favourite for a long time
>>126042162
Underdorfed post
>>126064081
>implying he didn't just earn a promotion to Military Commander
How embarrassing!
>tfw can't remember the names of my "friends" I went to high school with 2 years ago
>but can remember the names of my favorite, most prominent dwarves from a fort I was building around same time
why
>Make military
>Have 5 Iron Breastplates
>Tell Dorfs to wear "Metal armour"
>They don't
>Have to manual equip each dorf with an iron breastplate
What am I doing wrong?
>>126065821
Nothing. This is the way you should be equipping them. It's the Toady Quality Fun Program.
how can i kill underrwater crundles
they just get stuck their and do noithing and bloicking other animals to spawn
>ponder!
>>126065716
It's not that strange. The better the simulation becomes, the more "alive" the game world feels, and subsequently, the more valuable do the lives of the dwarves become.
>>126066759
Pump the water away, kill the crundles, and build some construction to stop them from taking over the lake again.
>>126068646
Alternatively, build a channel leading to the map edge with a floodgate, let out the water, then close the floodgate
>>126064201
Wonder if maybe the song is just too old for the joke to make sense for more anons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWHEcIbhDiw
Fucking Hardcore.
>>126018726
>>126018909
>>126019225
It`s simply the best! Can you share seed/save?
>>126069385
>find a peaceful elf library
>for some reason it seems wrong to me
>notice I have a steel minecart in my backpack
>don't even remember picking it up
>must have been in a tomb
>ah well, time for my Halle Berry impersonation
>>126068850
I laughed but if I posted "LOL" you wouldn't take me at face value.
>>126071302
lol
>>126071163
Well I knew this would work but I don't know why I never thought to try it until now.
>>126072274
Fun fact: bookcases are like cages in that you can stuff them full of crap in adventurer mode.
They are also like cages in that they dump their contents when they get shotgunned into something fast enough.
>>125920515
>Maximun child cap set to 10:20
>Atm 64 pop fort has 26 children
What the fuck, i fucking hate children! Lazy brats who just eat my food and drink my booze. What should i do with all these kids?
>>126074024
They are kinda cute now when they play and leave their toys everywhere. I love how playing kids often appear to "explore" less traficked parts of your fort.
>>126074351
How do i magma them? i have a volcano
Also will they haunt my shit afterwards?
Will killing them scare off migrants?
>>126074750
Just lock the doors to their rooms and wait for them to starve/dehydrate. This also works against sadfag dwarves who tantrum and disturb the mayor all the time.
I have magma 50 z levels below my main fort
how should i set up my metal industry using it?
>>126075640
Build magma forge. Smelt stuff into bars, make armour.
>>126075881
Well I know that, but the problem is all my stockpiles are 50 z levels above the magma
>>126075904
>Not making new stockpiles near the magma forge
>Not undesignating old stockpiles
>Not using wheelbarrows to move stuff quicker
Nigga you dumb
>>125993435
I want /pol/ to leave
Oh dear.
The same trick you use to fill a goblet with nonsense can fill a minecart with more stuff than it would normally let you pack in there, like an entire bookshelf which you for some reason stuffed with corpses can be dumped into a minecart.
>>126075904
>>126076197
>not building a pump stack
>not accidently drowning everything in magma
what even is the point?
Is this any good?
>>126077131
Your military might be able to use it.
But no, bone is pretty shitty.
>>126073942
but the real question is - can you put a bookcase inside a goblet?
How do I make legendary military?
>>126077892
Yes, I had someone drink one but it didn't list the items it was full of sadly, so it wasn't as amusing.
How well do water physics work in this version? If I channeled a 1 wide path under all my rooms and halls on a level, the covered it with a grate and ran water under it, would the water sometimes climb out and leak onto the floor even if there was room for it to move onto further down the channel?
>>126079284
>How well do water physics work in this version?
Same as all the other 3D versions.
>f I channeled a 1 wide path under all my rooms and halls on a level, the covered it with a grate and ran water under it, would the water sometimes climb out and leak onto the floor even if there was room for it to move onto further down the channel?
If there really is room to move further down the channel it wouldn't.
>>126077131
>Risen Munestducim has become a recruit
alright, so my professional badass army killed a forgotten beast with deadly dust without casualties. it's been a year and I don't think I've seen any casualties, how long until my fortress is ruined?
>Fps drops to 10
>Go for a shower
>Barely any time has passed
How to make FPS good again? Start killing dorfs off?
>>126080595
In large forts I found setting high priority/low priority traffic areas helps alot
>>126080541
Deadly dust syndromes are randomly generated, and far from all of them are harmful. Some simply knock the dorfs out while other simply makes them tired or dizzy. Some makes them rot, but this can be cured by a skilled surgeon.
The most dangerous dusts are those that diable vital functions(if they destroy the lungs or the brain, for example).
>>126081258
well due to timing, none of my army got dusted, so I can't know for sure if any dwarves actually are suffering from the symptoms yet. I guess if nothing has happened yet I'll just assume everything is fine.
My farmers are shit and aren't planting plump helmets aside from a few dozen a season. I have 140 seeds that are stored in barrels and bags. My fort will starve if this keeps going on.
What do?
>>126081864
yeah, usually they take effect pretty much right away. when it's something serious I usually see them die halfway back to their barracks
>a single goblin snatcher arrives
>my swordswarves are literally jumping over each other to be the first to hack its head off
>one of them ends up with a broken hand in the scramble
the goblin (which died like a bitch shortly afterward) was a good 5-6 squares away and already cornered when they piled into each other. retards.
>>126082586
do you have above ground crops available in your plots?
>>125969080
I act "autistic" affording to my many friend but I'm not, I checked.
I just like being funny, and it works.I have cancer though.
>>126082586
disable non-farming and hauling labors except food hauling for your farmers.
possibly lock them inside the farm with the proper seed bag if you really want to. (make sure the farm is planting those seeds at the right season)
Goddamn it
>>126082586
>>126083983
>>126084315
I figured out the problem. The 140+ seeds I had were all at the bottom of my moat. Don't ask.
>>126084414
try turning off deep metal and turn shallow metal to multiple. deep metals are almost never iron, if that's what you are looking for.
>>126084582
>deep metals are almost never iron
I didnt know that, thanks.
>>126084414
Also,maybe i should simply turn off aquifers?
Its not like i lose alot except...i cannot make drainage unless i do map corners?
>>126084579
Scratch that, I'm still having trouble.
>>126083983
Yes I do. The plot that doesn't have other crops available is full with plump helmets.
>>126085131
What's happening is you probably have "above ground" squares created by chopping down trees on the surface layer (there's a bug that creates channeled holes if you chop trees on the surface that have a cavern directly below them) that are blocking the farmers from planting anything else. farmers ignore plots after an above-ground plot, even if they are below ground.
There's no way to fix the plots that are ruined by this, but if you have more layers of soil you can go down 1 Z level and set up a new plot there.
>>126085509
Thank you very much that explains everything.
>>12608550
>>126085846
This happened to me in my current fort as well. Turns out a tree I had cut down was directly above the farm and caused the ground to collapse or something which turned it into am aboveground plot. I was so confused I thought my farmers were retarded or something. I ran out of food and seeds and everything. It was a catastrophe.
So yeah thanks to the first anon cause I had no idea that chopping trees can cause channels
>2x3 embark
>85 dwarves + 1000000 visiting scholars
>fort is sprawling
>110 FPS
>1x2 microfort built around the central staircase meme
>50FPS at 50 dwarves
Explain this shit
>>126086239
Define "central staircase meme"
Wh-what?
>>126086239
Do you have more water or magma or hit the cavern in the 2nd fort?
>>126086473
RUN!
>>126074502
But will they dance the night away?
Fucking keas man I fucking swear
It's like highscholl bullying all over again
>>126087289
*high-school
>>126087289
But they're so cute mang.
>>126087449
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>126087289
>high-school
Are you fat neckbeard or something?
>>126086239
There are a shitton of other factors apart from embark size that affect framerate. Fortress design, pathfinding and traffic designations, fluids simulations, cavern size, map depth, etc.
New thread?
>>126088228
No, let's just end it here and now. Let's let /dfg/ fall asleep.
Sleep tight, /dfg/.
>>126085846
>>126086110
fwiw you can turn those into above ground plots by channeling everything out.
>>126088641
>>126088665
>Let's let /dfg/ fall asleep.
I can't. I have to stay awake so I can go to sleep in the evening and return my sleep schedule to normal. Christmas is in a few days and I refuse to wake up at 5 PM and go straight to playing Dwarf Fortress on that day.
>>126088641
Yes. This game is going nowhere. It's just a life-dream-turned-development-nightmare of a madman.
>yfw Toady is like a miner dwarf who mines too deep into a channel and just goes deeper rather than opening a way in or out
>>126088839
Why not, don't want to spend christmas with your dwarves ? You monster
I was reading a tutorial yesterday about how to dig up into the underside of a lake, that involved standing under a bridge and somehow digging up through it but now I can't find it anywhere.
Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about?
>>126087960
No m8.I'm actually a structural engineer, married and with a son.
>>126090694
>getting pregnant
Shame on you anon
>>126090694
Does your spouse play DF? How about your son?
>>126087289
i embarked on a place with kea corpses everywhere, they dont steal but theyve killed 2 of my starting 7 already
Help.
I made each of my workshops little shops that have a basement that stores the goods they use or produce, each has a form or an allyway, i have woodsmans shops, mason shops, factorys that produce crafts, a metalsmith factory and fishermans market with other small shops like gems and mechanics and leather goods. I made my tavern with the blue thing never havent made on before, and 80 dorms.
I havent even unpaused for more than 30 seconds.
It feel inefficient as fuck, but it looks good.
Why does my winter biome thats cold with snow have camels and jaguars.
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