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>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/arkgeneral

>Patch Notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/594820656447032287/

>Play with /arkg/
Open Steam > View > Servers > Favorites > Add a server

Dinos 'n Chill
Rampant thread death edition

NFA PvP
149.202.195.127:27057

NFA PvE
72.20.53.53:18816 (Password: arkg)

Lets post some cozy things to stay alive! Pic related, just took it.
Hardmode: Cozy stuff built in PVP
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first for playing with integrantes graphics card
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>>125825261
It looks better in game, I swear!

I was actually surprised how shit my screen shot looks. it does actually look better in game for me
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Sabers are cuties
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>>125825261
*integrated
fucking autocorrect

>>125826324
oh man no need to justify, I too play with one
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>>125828207
No, but I don't though. Built my computer from scratch.
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>>125828918
cool, which GPU you have? planning on getting a gtx960 at $159
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>>125829041
i have the gtx970. It's served me well and wasn't very expensive. It runs ark on epic textures and epic view distance, i could give a shit about shadows and shit.
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who here hopes jak dies irl? I do. From a shot to the gut so he bleeds out slowly.
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>>125833731
Why?
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>>125836642
why not?
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>>125836878
Seems a bit harsh. Did he kill your family?
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>>125837742
>raising a meme dino
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>>125840712
>meme dino
That has seriously lost all meaning. Not that it had much to begin with. It's as over played as chungor's "what are you gay?" You faggots need new material.
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>>125840863
is it
>what, are you gay?
or
>what are you, gay?
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>>125841634
What are you gay?
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>>125842273
im gay
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>>125840712
>yfw you don't have a compy waifu
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>>125842460
n64
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>>125833731
Easy now edgelord
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>>125833731
I hope I die
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>>125842460
He fell alseep
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>>125833731
Probably that Spino rapist guy he's been slapping around lately.
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>>125849409
or dunjee. he lost a bird to his turrets the other night
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>>125849626
>His
No matter where I go its always "HIS tribe"
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>>125849768
Is dunjee a girl?
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Do burds cry ?
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dont die
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Xbox version is server refresh: the game! at the moment.
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>>125852360
Last time I checked I wasn't, but when I get a shower in a little bit I'll be sure to check again.
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>>125858948
No tear ducts
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>tfw any screenshot I see of someone's base I now recognize the location and immediately start thinking of all the dino and resources spawn it's blocking
Bases built on top of the volcano are seriously triggering me
All that metal lost forever
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>>125869448
It's quite tragic really
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burd cock
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>>125847645
It's a good thing I don't have kids.
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>>125849768
probably because you wind up being the one drawing the most attention
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first for jak being murdered
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>delay 227 for a week because you can't get the optimizations to work
>say fuck it and push them back to 228
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>>125872374
m-murderburd ?
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>>125876091
bird*
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>>125877523
fuck off retard
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>>125879408
fuck off, retard*
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>>125883382
fuck off retard
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>>125884617
fuck off, retard*
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>>125872910
At least the new structures are nice?
But really those were probably the updates I was more eager to get, along with anyone who's just on the brink of getting better performances from their machines. It sucks, really. And for what? Just so devs can release the new ebin winter landscapes? I have a snow biome base and it feels like mockery to me.
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>>125886976
The guys doing the seasonal shit aren't the same as the ones doing optimizations. It's just frustrating as fuck to see the performance guys missing so many deadlines and making big deal patches turn into tiny mediocre ones.
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>>125885137
fuck off retard
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>>125888154
How long has the performance improvements been constantly missing their deadlines? Sounds to me like they need to be replaced.
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>>125888516
fuck off, retard*
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Server has been updated to latest ARK version (v227.0)!

Game Updates:
- New Structure: Fireplace
- New Structure: Primitive Cage
- Industrial Forge can now quickly convert Wood into Charcoal
- Industrial Cooker now uses irrigation for its water craftings, so you can attach it to an endless water supply
- Catwalks can no longer attach to sloped roofs
- Fixed floating/infinite item bags after structures were autodestroyed
- Fixed Plant Species X / Turrets attacking creatures you're taming, or through Behemoth Gates
- Players who get stuck in foliage are no longer killed when the foliage is chopped down
- Fixed case where players could get-to and traverse under the world
- Fixed issue with Tribelogs getting reset
- Added new Server Admin Commands:
destroytribestructures
destroytribedinos
destroytribeplayers

Will destroy all instances of those things on the ARK, based on the Tribe owner (or player owner) of the thing that you are currently looking at.
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>>125888602
All the teams are shitting the bed recently. The optimizations team misses every deadline, and the game still runs like ass at low settings. The art/dino teams are putting out either shitty pointless dinos like the oviraptor and the kangaroo, or the balance destroyers like the giga and the quetz. And the balance team, if they exist, seems to think all the dinos need be implemented before can unfuck everything. Why would you want to make small incremental balance changes and see their effects when you can do a 2 week balance pass at the end and call it good?
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>>125888602
There was this thread on the steam forums with the OP working in business explaining how ETAs actually work and how you can't use them at random.
You really couldn't do this in any other line of work -what's worse, a part of the userbase actually DEFENDS this shit
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>>125895367
Link?
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>>125898632
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php/444716-OldHunterGames-Defiler-Wings-%28eng%29
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>>125898632
Found it
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/487876568238640604/
It also covers the most common excuses in advance, such as "it's an alpha". Reading the OP made me want to say, fucking finally someone tells it as it is.
Surprisingly, despite all of the "lol n00b git gud or gb2 playing Minecraft" replies, it's still worth worth it to scroll through the thread
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How're the server updates for DnC and PVE coming along? I gotta prepare for the winter update.
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>>125892706
I could balance this game better than it is in an hour and a half.

It's not nearly as big a deal as they pretend.
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>>125903668
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>talking with a friend about how most of the announced creatures have particular mechanics
>remember the dung beetle but can't remember what it was
>check the wiki, allegedly it will create both oil and fertilizer from poop
>announced in early August
>dimetrodon was announced by 4th of July
It's like they stuck theirselves into this dead end where if they make something generic no one will use it, but if they make something with some gimmick it will take them too much time to develop.
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>>125903668
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>>125903991
Balance improvement in a second: cut 100k off base giganoto health.

Is the game now perfectly balanced? No. Is some glaring imbalance partially addressed? Yes.

Easy.
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>>125903668
Are you sure about that? There has to be a logical reason behind the priority that they're releasing new animals on. Odds are the dinos that they're giving priority on release to are the ones that may be easier to implement into the current game engine. Oviraptor was easy to do because its only new animations were that it could visibly hold eggs. The Kangaroo seems like a logical choice to add because its their first test at having multiple riders in all likelihood.

As for the balancing issue, I'm sure they're not just throwing in a new dino and seeing what happens. I'm going to assume that the reason why some dinos get introduced and end up being "broken" is because they don't exactly know how the community is going to fit a new animal to meet their needs. The patching of dinos afterwards is likely reactive to how the community uses and abuses the new dinos for the assets they may bring to the table.
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>>125892706
>implying a balance team exists instead of a hodgepodge of devs in all the other teams
>lets do this here now, then spend more manhours doing the same shit again in a week every single week until the game is live.
>oh and lets delay the release too because of doing this shit over and over.
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anyone playing on xbone?

how do i find the server i was using yesterday, this server browser sucks
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>>125904639
If you want to believe 4chin's boogeyman urban legend, it's because they're pandering to redditors. If you want the more logical reason behind it, they're implementing dinos with gimmicks that haven't been done before with the other creatures.
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>>125905214
I wouldn't deny that it may be a little influenced by its more outspoken communities, but I feel that the other part of your response likely plays a bigger role in their dino adding/balancing process.

For the billionth time, everyone here is playing an Alpha video game. You all should expect this kind of amateurish activity by now.
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>>125905809
There's a bigger reason to believe it's the actual steam forums where they "pander" to things than reddit, considering you have to play the game through steam.
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>>125904639
They're filling missing gimmicks asap. Fairly sure that's the rumor though I don't have a source. It doesn't take a lot of thought to see we had balance problems with rexes and spinos... Why would they think adding exaggerations of them is for for balance?
Sure the toad and penguin added a new dynamic, but they had a problem with overdamage and just never addressed it before adding these things.

Most things are broken from simple stat inflation, and that's an easy fix. They can leave the fine tuning for later, since that's actually hard, but some steps in the right direction are easy.
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>>125906348
https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/3xhxqm/ark_survival_evolved_dev_team_ama/cy4tesr

Well, at least they claim to be aware of the problem.
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>>125906348
From the latest Digest
>Survivor, Bo*****s asks, “What's with the delay on the Therizinosaurus and Dimetrodon? You had the models, animations and even a bit of texturing done! What gives?”
They’ll be coming soon, but we wanted to add some of the more mechanically interesting creatures first. Can you say Procoptodon?
Dimetrodon works on both hyper and hypothermal insulation and therizinosaurus has the feature where you can use its claws to harvest different resources at will.
I can see how a double-carry can be useful, but nearly every announced creature has a specific feature. There have to be priority criteria, but there seem to be no apparent ones.
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Tfw dove gf
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>>125907571

>Dimetrodon works on both hyper and hypothermal insulation

They already have Kairuku for the insulating creature gimmick. They've already proven its possible to create a dinosaur that will affect either your hypo or hyper resistance.

> therizinosaurus has the feature where you can use its claws to harvest different resources at will

At the end of the day it's still walk up to a resource and attack. It's not drastically different from ankylos where if you walk up to a tree you get thatch and wood, then if you walk up to a rock you get stone and flint.
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>>125908881
I think what you're missing here is that the Therinzosuarus is suppose to have the ability to pick and choose what it harvests or something to that effect.
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Does the xbone version has cross play with PC? I dont want just wondering if I can expext an influx of cpnsole kidddies
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>>125909485
>console fag shit talking pc master race
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>>125909078
Yea but how is that more complex than a couple if statements and some serious ui improvements?
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>>125909814
I know his statement is incomprehensible, but
>reading comprehension
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>>125909078
They already have "pick" and "hatchet" functionalities dinos too. It wouldn't suprise me if readers have been misconstruing what therinzo does and the final version comes out with lmb for pick attacks and rmb for hatchet attacks.
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bob the spino rapist here offering 500 paste for jaks implant and a additional 100 for bird of his you kill
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>>125909485
Devs already said in a digest that ARK won't have cross platform gameplay. Makes sense considering PC is "set" to update every week, and Xb1 every two weeks.
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>>125911553
Wait, spino rapist as in you rape spinos or you're a rapist spinosaurus
This is important
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>>125911593
Which is probably a load of shit, considering how long memeroo has been delayed.
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>>125911879
My point is they want to update the Xbox less frequently than PC. Why do you think I put the word set in quotations?
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chungor here. 1000 paste to anyone that posts pictures of their dicks in the thread and an extra 100 for each testicle
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>>125912163
Id rather see some boipussy
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>>125905015
I'm not asking for them to spend huge amounts of time trying to constantly balance shit, but at least look into some of the major issues. Why the fuck do quetz have more health than everything except brontos? Or why are the giga and mosa the fastest creatures in the game when they are supposed to be slow. Or the gigas insane damage. Or the gigas stone eating.

These can be tested with minor tweaks and see the results over a long period of time. What is going to happen when they push everything out out is either a complete overhaul that ends up being equally as fucked or them realizing what a clusterfuck balancing 100 animals against each other in a short time span is and leaving it broken as fuck.
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>>125912962
>thinking the giga's stone eating wasn't intended.

Admittedly the health and damage are kneejerk reactions from them coming off of a dodorex high, but the stone eating was absolutely intended.
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>>125912627
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>>125911553
Marf, go home
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Ok we got a grade A imposter above Jane told me to check the thread. I wouldnt say my name nor post here as i have never done before so ignore all bob comments
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Plus i already have a jak implant why the fuck would i want a second
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>>125913647
Nice try there buddy,sure you dooo
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>>125912962
The on paper idea for gigas was that it was supposed to "bring back pants shitting fear in the alpha tribes", however, they failed in that by making them tameable. Because of that, alpha tribes only got even stronger and the gap between alphas and everyone else just widened.
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10000 cheese pizza to the guy who brings me chungors implant. 500 extra for every jak implant.
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>>125905015
It doesn't seem like they really know what they're doing or how to do it and won't seek any seasoned professionals to guide them so they can continue by themselves. I blame accountability not being a thing. That guy on steam was right. None of this shit would fly in any other industry. Most things in gaming would never happen in any other industry. The question is, how in the hell do you fix it without turning it into a legal clusterfuck that makes dealing with a stolen identity look like as easy as finding your car in a parking lot
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>>125914171
The problem with what you're saying is these "seasoned professionals" are all armchair experts with absolutely no background in game design other than "man I wanna work in the videogame industry". Wildcard is actually hiring, it's on their fuckign website, they've said it SEVERAL times on their streams, they even said it during their charity stream that they're fucking hiring people. Whiners don't even try to work within the system and would rather just nitpick about shit they think they know everything about.
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>>125905070
>playing survival/building games on your shitbox

stop doing this
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time to go back on DnC and hunt you fags down.
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>>125914515
Their hiring link is literally sending them an email... And some of us have legitimate careers already.
You don't need game design experts to play with numbers. Hell bioware hired people who didn't even like video games to produce mass effect 3 and despite being a mass of shit it was "successful."
Game design isn't bloody physics.
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>>125920853
Mass Effect 3 wasn't balanced either though. What's your point?
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15000 electronics and a level 643 alpha raptor for my implant.
Edit: nvrmnd found it lol
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I see this game being mentioned often. What is it even? Minecraft with dinosaurs and not voxel graohics?
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>>125921096
My point is the people actually designing the games aren't any better than the armchair experts.
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>>125913238
It doesn't matter if it was intended, it's fucking stupid and needs to be removed.
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>>125922765
I don't see your point, other than just whining about metal looking ugly.
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>>125922758
Most of the armchair experts actually play the game
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>>125922875
It fucks with balance. There is no downside to the stone eating and lets established tribes fuck with newer ones with no extra time investment.

Why the fuck do the stone farming ankylo and doed not damage stone, but the damage sponge, high damage, fastest land animal chew through it like nothing.

If dinos can break through stone, there needs to be a tradeoff and they need to be countered without needing another of the same dino or 10 rexes.
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>>125923651
Still not seeing your point. Ankylo and Doeds are mid-tier dinos. The Giga is an end game dino doing damage to non-endgame fortifications.
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>>125923817
It's yet another feature that makes the game boring for everyone.

Hey look the same people who have all the power and are bored of it because no one can match them got yet another huge boost to their power. Such a great new dynamic.

Life sucks at the top like this too.
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>>125923651
>big strong tribes
>not trampling the small ones
>balanced

You are one weird, sad little man.
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>>125923817
If telling you that I think an all in one dino that effectively requires equal or greater numbers of that dino to counter is shitty for balance, nothing else I can say will dissuade you.

I want to think most dinos should provide value and have tradeoffs, but apparently if it takes a long time to tame, it should just be amazing at everything
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>>125925635
The point is that more than two dinosaurs relevant for the PvP.
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>>125925807
>Invested time to tame isn't a tradeoff

It's not the tamer's fault you scrubs suck at harassing them off their tame. Giga's already rare enough as it is with having only so many around at a given time, so finding a high level one is a feat of it's own. Plus if the rest of the server is stupid enough to let that tribe have a male AND a female and get breeding, then that's doubly the rest of the server's fault for being retarded enough to not band together to take that away from them. Now if the rest of the server never could defeat the big tribe even with banding together and cooperating, then the big tribe having a Giga is a non issue as they couldn't ever beat them then, so why would that have ever changed?
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>>125926229
To make more than two*

Fuck mobile.
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>>125925635
before
>how much c4 do we need to blow off their doors and take their stuff
after
>just take one guy with a giga and level it completely lol
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>>125926229
Two dinosaurs had always been the only relevant shit to pvp. Before Gigas and Quetzals people only used Argents and Rexes.

Or are you seriously going to lie and say that people used Stegos on base raids?

>>125926527
>Justifying living with mid-tier bases : the post
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>>125926247
People have over a dozen of them, they aren't that rare. Nor are they, or anything else, particularly hard tames.

Just because everyone has them doesn't make them balanced. It didn't make rexes balanced either.
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>>125926602
And it was bad before. Just changing the two relevant dinosaurs to two more overpowered dinosaurs doesn't improve the game.

The game doesn't present compelling choices and having real trade offs to what dinosaurs you use is an easy way to add some.
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>>125926247
Tame time is a shit metric. I've seen so many games try to balance around cost to obtain, and it never fucking works. This game has 50+ dinos and I'd like to see more than gigas gigas gigas. At least before you could make arguments between rexes and spinos
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>>125926765
>people on a pvp server let everyone and their mom have a dozen gigas
>complain about getting shit pushed in by gigas

Congratulations. You're your own problem.
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>>125926602
>people used argents before, so 100k health quetz with platform saddles isn't much of a change
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>>125927248
>Moving the goalposts : the post
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>>125927360
>Two dinosaurs had always been the only relevant shit to pvp. Before Gigas and Quetzals people only used Argents and Rexes.
So what? I can't complain about how fucked the giga and quetz are because argents and rexes were the meta? What were the goalposts in the first place?
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>>125926991
>gigas take 2-3 hours to tame with prime on officials
>it's your fault for not scanning the map 24/7 to fuck with their tames
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>>125926991
>implying

Look, regardless of who has them or how many they have, they are an imbalanced mess. You don't need a degree in game design to see that. They aren't rare, they aren't interesting, they should be changed.
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>>125927807
Pretty much this


If taming time wasnt such a bitch, getting dinos would be such a bitch in the frist place. Gigas alone are fucking ridiculous, but some other dinos should be buffed up a bit to match the standard. Maybe making All dinos spawn less, and buffing most herbivores could be a nice change. Also, as long as you have a petro, you can just easly swoop to snatch the giga rider and drop'm, then the Giga falls into the shitty dino ai.

Maybe making the game easyier for smaller tribes, even if it benefits bigger tribes, might just be better in general.
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Ruffled Feathers Attacks Poseidon's bucketneers at 11pm est be bready
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>>125937013
Ruffled feathers isn't even our name anymore fuckhead
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>>125937170
Oh wait, that was jaks old tribe wasn't it. Rip in peace buccs
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>>125937170
>our
That you brick? We miss you
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>>125938242
I only have my phone to shit up these threads.
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where are some good bases, with lots of wood berries and dodos around, thats hard to find?
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>>125938362
We made good improvements but I won't post them here. You'll be proud when you return.
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>>125936084
No fuck we don't need more dinos buffed, the giganoto just needs a nerf. There's too much power creep already.

I mean, a rough version of a shitty scale is each dino one tier up averages to be worth roughly 2 of the previous tier dino at a similar level. Something like:
1 carno = 2 raptors
1 rex = 2 carnos
1 giganoto = 2 rexes

Hell you could make it 3, or any number in between, and the game would still be less imbalanced than it currently is.
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>>125944632
Buccs here, wanna have our dinosaur bang each other?
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>>125947885
Maybe next time I'm on. Also who gets the babby?
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>>125948783
Why not bang 2 pairs of dinos, and each get one?
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>>125944176
Literally anywhere.

Also those really arent "good", in the long term you want convenient access to stone, polymer, chitin, and metal.
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>>125944176
Which map?
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fucking dev diapers upfdate waaaah
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can admins even predate a fervor?
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For a tropical-ish beat on the drums, try 3, 3, 3, 1, 1, 2 at like 4/4
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Server's been updated to latest ARK patch (v227.1)!

Game Updates:
* Fixed another Tribe issue with leaves/joins getting screwy, due to async file write order. Seems to be be the last of Tribe issues.
* Made Admin-only Cages only pickupable if you are Tribe Admin
* Made newly-placed Industrial Cookers that are located 'on the ground' not become destroyed if their attached pipes are destroyed.
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>3d prints for ARK
http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/487877107145863022/
Out of all the things they could think of, we get this?
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>>125965578
What's wrong with it? It's not taking much, if any, of their time considering they're doing it through a third party, and it's separate from the winter event.
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When am I getting my 2k chitin for 2 of his implants ?
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>>125965578
I wouldn't mind it if the colors didn't look like runny shit-slime covering them.
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>me and my tribe playing Ark
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>>125949403
Good plan. Everybody bang.
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