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/twg/ - Total War(hammer) General

Charlemagne isn't that bad edition

>FAQs & General Info (Updated November 8th, 2015)
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed)
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if (embed)

>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/group/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Age of Charlemagne DLC -- https://youtu.be/RNOy63UZXvM

>Warhammer
Campaign Gameplay Walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJUWImJUZrU

Post your feels and sad greentext stories of when it all came tumbling down.

Previous thread: >>125448107
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1st for Shogun 2
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Who dropped the ball?
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>>125700389
>no launcher fix
for fucks sake
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>>125700873
Post it then rather than complaining.
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5th for aerotica
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6th for shilling Age of Charlemagne
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>>125701396
>you will never have sex with your anthropomorphic A-10
>you will never have sex with your anthropomorphic ballista
>you will never have sex with your anthropomorphic onager concubine
why even live
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7th for ded thread
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>>125701731
And for vanilla fags who miss out on the greatest DLC since ever
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10th for hussars
dragoons not welcome
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11th for historical total war
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>>125700389
n + 1th for Pike n' Shot.
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>>125702037
I prefer cuirassiers desu
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attila is straight garbage
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>>125701731
Rollan. Pls no Charlemagne, i want to start out small.
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M2 is the embodiment of Christ
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>>125703868
Kill those Sicilian fucks
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>>125704027
It's got a huge problem.

It has no god damn unrestricted camera.
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>>125703437
Cuirassiers are bros. You can stay.
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>>125704084
Turn off general camera
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>>125704225
I'm still limited in how much I can zoom out.
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>>125704170
>>125702037
I bet when they lost a war they wondered how they could lose and never looked back at all those stupid fucking buttons and how long it must take to make a god damn fancy uniform instead of making more guns and breeding more horses.
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>>125704357
>uniform manufacturing takes away from gun and horse manufacturing/breeding

Also,

>implying they didn't have enough guns and horses
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>>125704357
Nonesense. There wasn't enough buttons, clearly.
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>>125703868
Best faction!
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>>125704357
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>125704083
The spears look huge.
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Why do Asturian Royal Guardsmen looks so fucking nice?
Is it the dismounted knights vibe?
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>tfw awaiting call from repair guy because i failed miserably at solving my own problem

I h-hope he can fix it and doesnt charge me an arm and a leg for it
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>>125704924
It's the mod, it gives them a slightly longer look. Apparently Byzantine infantry used something called a Kontarion.

>>125705058
I think it's the mail coifs.

>>125705152
decent anime
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>>125704357
>get in dress blues
>14 (13 + 1 double) buttons to take a piss
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>>125704886
With best faces
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>>125701731
Should have a version for the modded factions desu. I feel like most people play the DLC with faction unlockers on anyway.
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>Christopher Lee died before he could voice Charlemagne in the DLC

It hurts.
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>>125705325
>implying they would have spent real dosh on voice acting even if he were alive
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>>125705293
I'm not using mods but whoever does should really make one!

Or post screenshots of all playable factions and I'm going to make it
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>>125705481
>Implying Christopher Lee wouldn't have done it for cheap just for the chance to be be one of his ancestors again

Actually, now I wonder how much he got for his part as "Old Charlemagne" in that metal album.
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>>125701943
roll
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neat, why do so many unplayable factions have no many unique units in this DLC?

Feels like a waste.
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>>125705058
It's the gambesons that give them a medieval look
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>>125705945
I want crossbows in AoC for at least one or two of the playable factions!
Maybe CA will add some in in the next patch?
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>>125705945
Is your faction called kingdom of scotland now?
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>>125705714
that was his own album you nonce
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>start charlememe campanya as emirate because of shitty roll
>"PEACE BE UPON HIM"
PEACE BE UPON HIM

Also assassins instead of spy, this is kind of neat.
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holy shit

this unit took on the last six enemies and won.

Ironic that the mercs are the last standing. Even more ironic that the enemy were Byzantines.
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>>125709309
praise be to allah
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>>125709309
It's assassins instead of champions, I think. You still got spies (scouts) and priests.
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>>125704470
There'd be less fuckers making button ropes or whatever those are if there wasn't a market for it.
Less of that and more of something else like gunsmithing or horse breeding, or hell just going to church and having lots of boys that can grow up to die in a foreign land.
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>>125710549
Let me ask this, priests are nice for the conversions you do as the emirate or the christians of north spain but what use are they for the rest of europe which just has 100% christian?

As lombards especially you are just isolated completely from other religions.
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>>125703070
WHat mod is that?
and how did m1 age?
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>>125710716
Public order boni, and one of their skills reduces corruption in provinces.
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Are thera any must have mods for empire senpaitachi
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Are pikes shit in DeI?
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SCOTLAND FOREVER

>>125707970
It is now. Going to have a look at replacing my flag too.
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>>125710823
Pike and Shot mod, you can find it here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/345260/discussions/0/523890046873941980/

>and how did m1 age?
It could have aged worse, but it could have aged much better too. Pretty fun to dive into for nostalgia purposes or to explore some of the interesting stuff CA abandoned for better or worse.
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>>125711353
Merci mon ami
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>>125711353
Now I'm interested. What'd they abandon? You must have an idea in mind if you brought it up.
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Daily reminder that Feudalism is good
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>>125712018
>Peasants think feudalism are bad
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>>125712540
[overused monty python quotes]
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>>125712018
It's far superior to whatever the fuck the Merovingians were up to.
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m8's can someone give me their impressions on the latest patch for attila? I'm wondering if I give it another chance amd maybe buy the african/arabian dlc (mostly to have the takunids in the campaign).
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>>125713716

what do you want to know
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>>125714137

not him but I'd like to know if AoC is worth $15
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>>125701943
Rolling
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>>125714434

I guess
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>>125714137
Is razing really reduced for the AI?
Do Jutes and Picts somehow end up in Iberia?
Major improvements in your opinion
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>>125714454
Oh for fucks sake. Reroll.
>>125713716
Empire of the Sands is a great DLC. It'll be 66% off from next Tuesday until the 1st of January.
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>>125714586

The patch mainly focused on balancing the campaign map by making it harder on the Sassanids and easier on the Romans, dunno about the rest of your questions
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>>125704084
>It has no god damn unrestricted camera.
yes it does
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what do i do? kinda new to TWA
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>>125705714
That's his own album anon because he was a direct descendant of Charlemagne and looked remarkably like him based off all the portraits at the time.
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>>125714694
Thanks for the advice man. How can you be so sure they'll have it on sales?

>>125714757
uhm ok
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>>125714917
Use your wifes to gather support, any family members who get too much influence to do the same or secure loyalty of other members. If you've fucked it up too bad already though you might have to just nope the heck out of that particular campaign buddy.
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>>125715029
Its the Steam winter sale next Tuesday.

The autumn sale last month had Attila and all DLC's at 66% off minus AoC which was 10% off obviously.
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>>125715075
will do, most loyalty is over 7, one is 4, will try to get it higher
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I just want to make sure one thing:

Do the Tanukhids apper on grand campaign even if i havent bought Empire of Sands? Plus the dlc doesnt do anything to other factions, right?
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>You formation will never be dommed by slut elfs.
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What the hell is the best and optimal building order in Rome 2?

Also how do you guys build armies? Do you use just 1 primary province and force march them everywhere or do you build forward military provinces to restock and replace low tier units?
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>>125715417

Generally speaking every faction appearns if you don't have the dlc, I don't know about the Tanookis though because I've not played the game without the EoS DLC
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>>125711661
>The risk-based map
>The fact that every single unit is led by a named character with their own traits and loyalties.
>Titles.
>Pixel-based battles - Larger Battle sizes.

That's all I can remember at 12:00Am in the morning lol, but like I said I said it's a for better or worse situation.
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>>125715417
Anon just read the steam page at what it adds and changes
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>>125715437
>tfw clobbering sorceresses
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>>125715641
>incest mechanic
>best siege attrition mechanic showing realistic losses to your men, their men and civilians.


What they cut from medieval 2 and Rome that ruins immersion is

>constant trade between ports,towns,castles and cities that increases or decreases based on wealth of province bringing the campaign map to life. No need for trade agreements to see them on the map.
>the ability to have units be individually controlled on a campaign map mechanic
>have captains lead armies instead of generals. >Heroic victories could have have that captain promoted to a general.
>Generals could rebel if loyalty drops too low taking their troops with them.
>traits and ancillaries that were not full of memes and pop culture references.

Although I've noticed with Attila a few of these have sort of started to make a comeback. Attila was clearly a test run for the Warhammer mechanics. Now Warhammer is cutting the cool seeing the city expand on campaign feature. CA just goes backwards.


pic related for point 1 regarding trade this time in Third Age(DaC submod). Check the roads.
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>>125716471

...Did you just post your own pasta? Like do you have this post saved on a notepad or something?
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>>125716471
> the cool seeing the city expand on campaign feature.
ehh, I just found the disgustingly huge zone of control annoying.
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I played Empire once years ago, is it worth picking up during the sale next week if I already have FOTS and Napoleon? Why is it hated so much?
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>>125715473
Try to always go for the capital first so you can start building a purple and a yellow. There should be nothing but farms in most provinces, fishing ports everywhere except whatever provinces are actually trading. Build industry instead of farms if its a province that specializes in some special commodity like gold.
One military building in your first province until you find a better area with bonuses, then you can demolish the ones in your first province and replace them with yellow buildings.

A slave trader in your trade province is the best way to make money in rome 2, so its worth two purples and if you always build a yellow and a purple in every province then public order wont be a problem. Make money with infrastructure and trade, not taxes. That way you can put taxes as low as they go, suck in growth and combat the penalties of excellent buildings like slave trader.

Source: millions and millions of dollars in all my r2 campaigns
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>>125718029
Oh, and main chain upgrades as soon as possible. First turn you can get them. Every idle turn is wasted, main chain buildings are your first priority
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>>125701943
roll

>>125701731
and roll
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>tfw EB2
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>>125716471

>dorwinion

the reason I think dac is dumb

muh lore
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>be me
>that feel when I am still awaiting the release of the second instalment of Europa Barborum
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>>125715746
Hahaha what mod is that? I loved playing random fantasy crap on Warband.
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>>125719592
>Hahaha
hehehe
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>>125719453
>LAAL RAR
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>>125719453
>MEME
how have I not seen this before
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>>125719592
call of warhammer/rage of the dark gods
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>>125719940
because its OC from a while ago
donut steel
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>>125719453
>MEME
>RAW WAR
10/10
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>>125719978
God damnit, why is the mod split into 4 downloadable parts. It's been going on downloading for 3 hours and still there's 2 hours still left, and it's only the first part.
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>>125721413
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?525138-RodG-1-5-Easy-and-painfree-Installation

Get the torrent and this install. It translates stuff and so on too.
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>>125721625
and do this install*
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>>125721625
Nice, thanks friend.
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>the AI has always been and will always be dumb as a fucking rock
This makes me sad.

You can do just as well with a balanced army as you can with a 10stack of pikes and a 10stack of cav.
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SIGNA FERTE
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>>125719453
I like it
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>>125722476
>tfw I want to play head to head campaigns as AI a shit.
>all my friends want co-op instead
mere clockwork no longer satisfies me, wat do?
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come on you faggots meme about with me

thread's dead anyways
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>>125723510
TREE A REEE AI
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God damn sieges are such a clusterfuck. I think there are literally a thousand men on that gate ramp. They're never going to get through, but my spearmen have shit for killing power, so they're not going to break anytime soon either.
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HOP LEE TAY HAP LOH EEE
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>>125724348
>mere clockwork no longer satisfies me, wat do?
Lie down and cry realizing you will never get a good fight against AI in a TW game and your friends will never want to do H2H.
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This is what the Skaven DLC is going to be like lads.
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MISTHOPHOROI TOXOTAI KRETIKOI
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>>125724667
>not using a box formation so you can flank the enemy continuously
You bring great shame on family.
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BOAT-ROWS
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>>125724965
This slope here does super fucky things to the pathing, so even the most basic of boxes would probably shit itself somehow and lead to endless Germans beating me with clubs.
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>>125724831
life is a circus
>I'm the clown
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>>125725257
well, you'll beat them through exhaustion eventually...
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>>125725257
This is the main thing I hate about Attila/Rome 2

The sieges are so utterly fucking boring.
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>>125724915

PHALANGITAI
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Asturias/Mercia/Northumberland/Kent/Wessex

Vs

Pamplona/Charlemagne's Empire

Charlemagne is powerful as shit, Rank 2 on strength and he is almost 3 times more powerful than me.

Wish me luck boys.
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>>125725869

YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT
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>>125725474
Yeah, that's what it always comes down to innit.

I don't mind terribly much though, got an audiobook to entertain me.
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>>125726079
>charlie
>only rank 2
>Cordoba is dead

who the hell is rank 1?
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>>125726532
he is, i'm rank 2
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How's Ancient Empires or that one Medieval mod coming along?
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>>125726532
Theme of Sicily is always 1, 2, or 3
Still wondering why the fuck they're not playable
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>>125721413
>that pic

Haha holy fuck that's beautiful. Fuck powergaming shits.
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Age of Charlemagne is on sale on Nuuvem for R$16 right now, that's around $4 USD

Have to use mexican VPN.
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So part of this town is sinking. How odd.
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>>125727309
I did that to someone at my locals once too, kroot conga lines are hilarious.
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>>125729639
Global warming man.
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FUCK

EB 2 WHEN
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>>125714917
Use family members to gather support to gain control or embezzle funds for money/ loss of countrol or send generals with high influence off to their deaths in order to increase your dominion. Or you can adopt them to also increase your dominion. Lastly secure loyalty when necessary. Don't abuse the system because dominion is the sum of influence and most of the above actions cost influence to perform.

Power is just basically your families dominion and control vs your statesmen dominion and control. A good balance is best. Once you figure it out its easy.
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Anyone know a way or mod which lets you cancel Military Access with your vassals for Rome 2?
I'm tired of them capturing cities from my enemies on the other side of my empire. It fucks up muh map painting autism
>inb4 having vassals
I want to RP as the actual Parhian empire
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if /twg/ loves EB and medieval 2 so much then why doesn't anyone post them?
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>>125726498
I usually let them into the city and defend the town square, then you can flank around with cav and mop up the scattered attackers
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>>125731887
U wot? I see Medieval 2 and it's mod all the time. Hell I've posted my HRE campaign for over a year. Right now I'm taking a break though and playing S2 and R2 and Empire Darthmod
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>>125732178
all I ever see on /twg/ about medieval 2 is arguing over collision
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This guy is pretty fucking rude, considering I was the one that liberated his faction in the first place.
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>>125732417
Well a while ago we had shitposter claiming M2 was perfect and every other tw game after is complete shit. Nowadays we have anti Medieval 2 shitposter who post the same 3 webms every thread and claim the game is unplayable (despite being the most played tw game). Both sides are equaly annoying
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>>125732975
there's something comforting knowing the cycle will continue
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>>125729639
I didn't know California was in Attila
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I'm not liking that so many units in Charlemagne are unarmored or low armor.

Which factions have regular armored troops? Have only played as Mercia and Lombardy.
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>>125734349
Indeed. It is the way of the world, and the will of the gods
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I started a Tanukhid campaign while high, got my ass handed to me in less than 10 turns and I felt really bad. Not just because I played like shit, but because I actually felt like I had doomed my people to their deaths and worse. Like I had genocided them, let them be tortured by their former masters.

PTSD, man.
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http://www.honga.net/totalwar/attila/units_compare.php?l=en&v[]=attila&f[]=cha_fact_cordoba&u[]=cha_mus_berber_spearmen&v[]=attila&f[]=cha_fact_cordoba&u[]=cha_mus_berber_levy

So why would you ever pick the spearmen over levy? Levy get better damage + two missiles and have the same upkeep.
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>>125735291
Lel what the hell were you smoking? You actually felt sad for your people. Made me laugh friend thank you.
I've tried playing Company Of Heroes while high. Shit fucks with your micro, I can't play like that
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How do you people stand the long wait time when you end your turn in Attila or am I just impatient?
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>>125735535
>spam pioneers
>attack move everywhere
>win

>spam grenadiers
>give them all shreks
>load up in transports
>go to enemy base
>win

There's no micro involved.
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>>125736219
alt-tab and shitpost on 4chan
Its what the thread is here for
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>>125735221
Anyone?

Also a question, what's a viable strat as the WRE now?
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>>125736312
>there are people who do not have at least two screens
>in almost 2016

what's your excuse?
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>>125736279
>playing against noobs
>playing Wehr the easiest faction
I main Panzer Elite. That's micro intensive as fuck
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Is vanilla Empire worth playing, or should I jump straight into DarthMod?
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>>125736765
I would advise playing vanilla so you appreciate the fixes Darthmod brings.
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>>125736765

kek
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MwBRrH

My first build, did I do okay /twg/?
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>>125718029
How can you tell which provinces are "trade provinces?"
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>islam think they can defeat green power
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>>125737352
hehe
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>>125737042

lmao

this is a joke, right

you're memeing me, right m8
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>>125737042
>closed loop water cooler

why
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>>125737042
Where are the poptarts?
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>>125737042
why do you need two extra goddamned fans?
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>>125736567
college
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>>125737042
>32 GB ram
>water cooling with extra fans
>Overclocked

jesus, just god damn.

Just use /g/'s site man. http://www.logicalincrements.com/
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>>125736567
I'll just play in window full screen mode for now
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>>125737842
I'm not a poorfag. I just want the best. The price doesn't matter to me.
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>>125737042
>liquid cooling
>not a WD Blue
>cheapest SSD you could find
>32GB of RAM
>i7
>overclocking V-card and motherboard even though you probably have no idea what that is
>fanpalooza
surely this is bait
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>>125737042
>32 gb of ram

Are you building this for a job too? The only reason you need that much ram if you are running serious shit like oil flow modeling or rendering software.
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>>125738089
There is a difference between not caring about price and just throwing money away. For the same price you can build something far better if you don't fall for gimmicks like a retard.
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>>125735535
DUDE
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>>125737042
>750W PSU on a 500W system
Have a (you) on the house
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>>125738265

ayy
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>>125737042
This is a nice rig friend, just remember, when you get to building it, use a playing card to spread the thermal paste on the CPU before applying the heatsink, otherwise it won't work correctly
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>>125738585
Watercoolers doesn't need thermal paste my friend
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>>125738710
watercoolers might raise the humidity of your rig though
when it hits 51%, you may as well toss it in a bathtub
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>>125738585
Also remember to wear socks and shuffle your feet on the carpet before handling the components.
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>>125738585
no.
>>125738710
no.
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So I bought MTW to see if all the hype was just oldfag nostalgia like things usually tend to be and it actually awesome even compared to the new stuff, trouble is I can't seem to get huge unit sizes in campaign, changing it to huge in the options just made them huge in custom battles, how do I change em for campaign.

Also Swiss Armored Pikes are awesome and beat anything in the game, I've read you can recruit them in Switzerland in the late period with any faction if you control it, my question is are they like mercs in 2 where you just can hire them when they spawn and not retrain them, or are they like and other unit only just trainable/retrainable in Switzerland?
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>>125739741
1. start a new campaign
2. the best unit in the game is the general's guard
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>>125739741
>or are they like and other unit only just trainable/retrainable in Switzerland?

from memory its this. Swiss pikemen and Swiss Armoured Pikemen can only be trained in the Switzerland province, but are trained as per normal

also build lots of ships, and spread them through out oceans, an army can move Wessex to Sicily in 1 turn as long as you have a ship in each of the connecting sea provinces
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>>125740993
I did, changed it in the setting before I touched the campaign, but my unit sizes are default for campaign

>>125741401
Thanks
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>>125701731
>>125701943

COME ON GIMME SOMETHING GOOD
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>>125742009

>Charlemagne and Franks

Yeah, yeah, OK.
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Hey, can I buy Attila from the Steam Store and then get AoC from Gamersgate.com?

Or will they not work together?
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>>125729639
global warming started earlier than we anticipated
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>>125740993
I also just realized on further investigation any units I train have the huge size, but all my starting units are small unit sizes for some reason.
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>>125737184
Whatever port you have that actually has routes, the game sort of decides it for you but usually its your first and then sometimes itll expand if a province has a specific resource.
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>>125742489
Gamersgate will give you a steam key. Will work.
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>>125743630

OK thanks.
I bought Empire complete and Shogun 2 complete from them, but I wasn't sure if I could buy stuff separately like I said above.
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Is Attila even good or should I just wait for warhammer
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>>125743823
Attila is shit. Stick to the classics.
Play Shogun 1.
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>>125743823
Attila is great
don't play the classics
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>>125721413
Now I want to know what that guy calls his army. I don't know much about that shit except FOR THE EMPRAH and angry marines, and that's 40k instead of the regular stuff.
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>>125743823
mechanically, its a very a good total war. Battles in particular are some of the best in the series.

however, the campaign map is quite different, and very imbalanced. As a result, a lot of people don't like the setting or can't get into it (myself included). Age of Big Charlie is a good alternate, but a little lazy in a few areas.

Also it is incredibly unoptimized
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How much of a bully is Attila? Is he going to rape my poor barbar asshole or will he be nice and focus on the other power barbars instead?
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>>125718986
Where the fuck were you
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Anyone know of a mod that improves the Alans? Right now they feel more unique, but also just like a shittier Huns. I think they mainly need improved horse archers and foot archers.
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>>125744597
It's the tau who are weeabo aliens who focus on small unit tactics at the cost of melee and are all about a non-descript greater good, they have access to a mercenary cannabalistic lizard army called kroot who may or may not be resistant to their mind control.
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>>125744773
Pay him off and let him fuck your sister/mother/daughter/wife, and you'll be fine.

He's also a fucking pushover, in all honesty. If you can't fight him off by the time he becomes a threat, stop playing Total War.
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>>125744993
I've heard that he usually attacks with like three full stacks of T3 troops. I'm just scared, anon.
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>>125744796

banned

what the fuck are those units
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>>125744908
Weird. I'd like to say "neat", but I just don't get it. Then again that's probably tl;dr so I shouldn't judge.
I'm sure it's fun once you're done painting your men and you make shit up about them.
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>>125744831
>Shittier huns

>When they have the best anti cav melee cav, anti melee infantry melee cav and shock cav in the game now.

They are better than the huns in 3/5 cav types and i haven't compared their skirm cav yet, only thing their best units need to worry bout are spears and their infantry are more than capable of dealing with them. They are the best grand campaign faction unitwise imo currently, with the ERE, Tanukids, Himyar and the vandals being the others.
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>>125705058
I like their jammies :3
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How is unit variety in Empire? I like the line battles in Napoleon, but I feel like all the factions have pretty much the same units.
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should I start a new EB campaign or a SS one, /twg/?
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>>125745773

>line infantry
>light infantry
>skirmishers
>slightly better line infantry
>melee cavalry
>shooty cavalry
>big guns
>bigger guns
>biggest guns
>guns that fire in an arc

alright I think that's 95% of napoleon units
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>>125744908
They’re cannibals as in they eat themselves or their enemies?
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>>125745140

Socii allies of the Marian reforms
can also be hired as mercs by enemies of Rome
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>>125713427
The Merovingians had a form of feudalism, just very informal, inefficient, and corrupt compared to Carolingian feudalism.
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>>125746165
Enemies, and I think they have to do it to maintain sentience but most of the info i gathered about 40k comes from 1d4chan so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>125715437
How does an elf's butthole taste?
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>>125745892
SS
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>>125745892

WAIT FOR EB2 YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>125746329

so who are you gonna play when the autumn >implying release is released
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>>125746548
EB2 is literally years from completion anon
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>Creating glorious empire in Shogun 2, up to seven conquored provinces in this campaign, one of my first
>Suddenly nanban, whatever, let them do their thing and trade, at least get matchlocks from it.
>Let their missionaries in and convert as they want, religious freedom and all
>Convert the daimyo
>Christian revolt, christian revolt, christian revolt
>In turns I've lost almost everything
Is this supposed to be how it is?
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>>125746926
you fucked up round eye
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>>125746926

>Going Christian as anyone other than Otomo

You brought this on yourself
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>>125746548
Rome.
Accept no other factions.
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>>125748017
But Legend is right
age = quality
RTW an M2 are like fine wine, already good when made, they only get better with age
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>>125748017
>rome 1 deeper and more immersive
I find Rome 1 more enjoyable too but this is pure bullshit
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>>125748017
>more depth
What a load
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Fucking Celtic assholes declare war on me. Fucking allies in Africa betray me. I just wanted to get rich in Spain. No breaks for a Visigoth.
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>>125748821
He probably just likes the instant responsive cav and invincible armored hoplites.
The only thing you can fuck up in a RTW 1 battle is firing arrows at the front of an enemy that has a shield that isn't a buckler. Or buying skirmishers I suppose.
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>>125746926
If you manage to control it, converting to Christianity is hilarious. I had one game where I almost never declared war on anyone - I just had my priest go in and fuck around for a few turns and the province would revolt. My army would then just swoop in and take the province from the rebels.

Late game I was able to maintain a buffer of rebel states running north to south between my empire and other clans, and simply expanded my territory at my leisure.
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How often does /twg/ go back to playing vanilla in rome or M2? I've only played vanilla rome once like five years ago when I first picked up the game. Since then I've only played mods, and I'm considering trying vanilla again.
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>>125752251
Occasionally I'll get extra nostalgic (maybe every couple of years or so) and try it. I almost immediately go back to Extended Cultures/Invasio Barbarorum and Stainless Steel though. I haven't done a full campaign vanilla for RTW/BI since like 2007 and I don't think I ever bothered with M2.
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>>125745773
There's far more artillery and shell options. which makes it a lot more fun imho.

also there's native and indian units. Indians have elephants which is neat until you realize that cannons kill them just as easily as anything else and then you start feeling bad for the poor elephants.
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What did ancient chinks do to get fresh water to their cities?
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>>125736279
>>125736590

you guys dont play the second one at all?
RULE BRITANNIA in both games
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>>125754074
Go to the ancient river with their ancient bucket
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>>125754414
I like 2 but I prefer the factions in 1. Is OKW like the PE? And how are the Brits in 2?

I also haven't figured out the doctrine system in 2 so it kinda scares me away from playing competative. I love the doctrine system in 1 though
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God damn. My fucking income took a nosedive with the latest climate change event. Sure would have been nice if my allies didn't betray me to try and steal my Spanish gold.
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>>125754469
No aqueducts for the bigger cities?
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>>125754603
I, too prefer the doctrine system from 1. I really dislike the pay 2 win system in this one.

OKW is supposed to be PE, but dunno really they have way less in the way of armoured cars and what I usually see is volk spam pz2's and the eventual KT. Their playstyle reminded me of brits from CoH1 as they now have the moveable bases.

Bongs are great and are a bit more adaptable and they have to choose between offensive (armoured cars, all rounder tank) and defensive (area denial, tanky tank) rosters every game.

Nothing obviously superior in there though, its kinda the same. As for the doctrine system, its possible to have a completely useless doctrines, unless you luck out or dish out the shekels.
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>>125748017
why do you care about this literally who and his shit opinions?
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>>125705271
>gamberson over mail
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So do you guys think the people complaining about warhammer DLC are those unfamiliar with warhammer altogether?

Because otherwise it seems strange considering how much GW jew people all the time.
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>>125701731
Rollan
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>3 years until this bad boy can fuck your shit up

It's going to be long
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>>125759015
>five months max

;)
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test
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D
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is there any good mod for Medieval 2 focused on islamic expansions? I feel unresistible urge to spread kebab and remove pork (so we will have more kebab to remove in the future).

If there is not any mod liek that, is there any good mod focused on islamic factions? I don't like playing Bellum Crucis anymore.
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A pluralistic, diverse, multi-cultural society free of hate. Unless you're a Jew. Or a Christian who isn't part of some mercenary corps. Or a Syrian and it's the Yemeni Jund-Arabs who are in power. Or a berber who doesn't like being treated like cannon fodder and so turn to the 8th century version of ISIS.

>>125762425

Broken Crescent shifts the map to the Mid-East from the Bosphorus to India, Steppes to Ethiopia or nearly there. Set circa 1170 AD.
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>>125762425
>medieval 2

Play AoC.
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>>125762514

Who are those
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>>125758304
The only people complaining are the same people that complain about DLCs in general - a.k.a. entitled poorfags.
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>>125759015
>3 years untill you can ride around in this bad motherfucker
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