Groovy edition
>Official Site:
http://www.vermintide.com/
>Wiki:
http://vermintide.gamepedia.com/Vermintide_Wiki
>Tome/Grimoire Locations and Other Info:
http://www.vermintidedb.com/
>The Game:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/235540/
>The Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/whvtg
>Lore Stuff, Books, and Collector's Edition things:
https://mega.nz/#F!w0UERTga!d9uXX9ZnHATnuBGAFk38rg
Mordheim can be here too.
>Official Site:
http://mordheim-cityofthedamned.com/en/
>Steam Page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/276810/
Previous thread: fell the fuck off with like 30 posts
we ded
>>125698476
Think there were like 3 new LoL threads created at once or something, that killed us
>tfw not getting drops all day
>get two great rolls in a row
>melee elf weapons, the one character I never play
Is the sword (without dagger) any good for the elf? Might as well give it a try
I keep making new Mordheim saves instead of just playing one through
Haven't even seen the elites or 3rd heroes for any army yet
So when do you get impressive units in Mordheim? I really want my ROgre.
>>125699356
>sword (without dagger)
Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
>>125700757
Around warband level 5.
>>125701269
Oh well, got some shit to trade up with
>>125700757
>Rogre
You better have a fucking good wizard to control it
>>125702147
>general died
D E A D G A M E
HOLY SHIGMAN
BLESH THIS RAVAGED BUDDY
>>125702547
I genuinely thought he said "holy shit man" at first
>>125702585
that is possible if you never heard the word Sigmar before
Let's autistically post class ideas/loadouts
Light Wizard
Staff 1: time slow primary(players move at normal speed), Bolt staff esque secondary except hitscan
Staff 2: generic magic missle primary(think drakefires with balls of light), light net secondary. Ensnares small groups of rats or single specials and disables them for 2/4/6/8 seconds depending on staff quality. Rogres always break free after 2 seconds, high "heat" generation per net
Staff 3: Essntially group speed potion primary, secondary casts small protective bubble. Rats inside the bubble during the cast get damaged and flung out ala a shove, and melee hits from outside are blocked with damage reflection. Rattling shots are reflected back and gas won't seep in. Rogres shatter the bubble.
Based off Birona's Timewarp & Banishment, Shem's Burning Gaze & Net of Amyntok, The Speed of Light & Pha's Protection
>>125702754
Dunno what but I want something bretonnian
Never got to play them as a kid
>>125702754
Sounds pretty powerful, but also not terribly entertaining to play, to be honest. His abilities sound like Dota abilities. While a support-heavy character would be cool, I feel like it would make the game much easier, almost too easy with what it's giving. Plus, seems to lack killing potential. BW supports, but supports by slaughtering rats. If all the Light Wizard is doing is protecting and disabling, kinda takes away from the merciless carnage.
Sorry, don't mean to nitpick
>>125702754
Don't know enough about Warhammer fantasy to suggest new characters, but just having a motherfucker with a halberd doesn't seem too out of the ordinary.
Seriously. Why don't medieval fantasy video games ever feature any fucking polearms. Is a pokey stick really that hard to program.
All these sound bugs are killing me
It feels like I never have more than half of the proper sounds
>>125703547
That was kind of what I was going for. I wanted every staff to have some sort of offensive capabilty and 1 support ability instead of a pure offense staff and pure support staff. Basically give every staff some way of dealing with specials.
Light Wizards on the tabletop are much more support oriented and everything is based off what a TT light wizard could do. Shield bubble is a bit modified but hey that's all I had to work with.
>>125703768
The irony is that the halberd is probably the most common/iconic weapon of empire troops.
>>125704290
What would the melee weapons for the character be?
>>125704787
It really depends on the race of the character. A tomb king liche priest would have different melee than an elf or human.
Honestly it doesn't matter a whole lot, he'd have some slashy stuff and/or some bashy stuff, none of which will be terribly different than what's already in the game.
>>125702754
I want a white lion character, who has a lion pet that goes after enemies (if they're tagged) but otherwise can take take down ratmen.
He should have no hp or hitbox (bc his ai will probably be shit)
Kerilian should have a crush on him, and Kruber should be jealous
>>125705424
>>125705424
>uses the same code as truflight
>lion spinning around a rogre at the speed of sound
>>125699356
All the weapons are viable really, but you'd be much better off with the sword and dagger or dual swords.
>>125705424
>kruber
>jealous
The man is way too much of a bro to be jealous.
>>125701710
>>125702147
Thanks guys
All right, hear me out (those with elf hatred need not apply).
Perhaps Kerillian is a bitch to keep the others at a distance. Half the time she's incessantly snarky and sarcastic, but the other half she shows some real concern for the others. Take the dwarf and Kruber for example. As bitchy as she is to them, she still shows some warmth toward them, albeit once they die.
>"Go proudly, son of Karak Norn."
When Bardin bites it, and
>"I'm going to miss him, a little."
When Kruber goes.
I say she's just a wench to keep them at arms length, keep them away from her secrets, such as why she's away from her woods. Why IS she there, have we found that out yet?
>>125708448
Or maybe she's a bitch 'cause she straight up made fun of Bardin's dead family.
Someone was asking about hat codes in the last thread.
Use this:
forum.cheatengine.org/download.php?id=114833
Open it up, it has every exotic in the game listed, as well as hats and red tier items. When you spawn something you have to open your inventory at least once for it to be added properly.
If you want to remove items (If you care about having duplicates of stuff like hats that can't be salvaged) use this in the lua injector.
local itemName = "wh_1h_axe_0012"
for k,v in pairs(backend_items._items) do
if(v.key == itemName) then
BackendUtils.remove_item(v.backend_id)
end
end
Replace the 'wh_1h_axe_0012' part with the item code you want to remove. ie. 'wh_hat_0004'
This will remove every under that code from your inventory.
Here is a listing of the traits on each weapon and its code:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1r7ySwkjfMxR2dxSmt1cXhXc0U/view?pref=2&pli=1
>>125708448
She follows the smell of rat cum, wherever it may be.
One of the exchanges kruber, saltz and kerilian can have is where kruber makes a prediction that she's intentionally mysterious to hide the fact that she lacks substance.
Dam near chortled.
I just got dropped over an instakill ledge by a packmaster
woooo
>>125710139
>packmaster hooks were real
How horrifying
>>125711291
Are those for catching people alive or dead? It looks quite lethal.
>>125711503
It's non-lethal
>>125711503
Alive. You're not supposed to be stupid enough to try to struggle after getting hooked.
>>125711503
It's non-lethal if used on someone armoured
>>125711503
The only people valuable enough to catch alive for ransom were heavily armored knights. Filthy peasants were killed by it.
so i'm already tired of the drops and worthless shitters, is there a save editor so i can get the equipment i want without having to suffer retards constantly
>>125702996
>Never got to play them as a kid
What's stopping you now?
>>125715180
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=586138
>>125715318
Time, money, lack of a local warhammer scene, lack of interest in a game that has big flaws
>>125715468
Fair enough.
>lack of interest in a game that has big flaws
If you're too lazy to houserule AoS and build it into your own thing or even pick out interesting scenarios (as the intention is), there are still plenty of splinters of 8th Ed communities.
>>125715691
I was actually talking about 8th ed but the flaws do carry over into AoS
There's just fundamental problems with the game that other products (with no players here) have improved on
>>125715846
There are flaws with every game, and whilst I'm not saying Warhammer isn't the most flawed game of it's style (both 40K and Fantasy were never known for their balance) it's the main way to play stuff in those settings, and each game has enough rule of cool in it and whatnot to still enjoy.
>>125715319
not what i'm looking for, chief. was looking for something like gibbed's save editor for borderlands that allowed me to directly create items with the traits that i wanted
thanks anyways tho
>>125716574
thats what i linked you family
ScriptBackendItem.award_item("trinket_poison_attack_tier3")
for example
replace trinket etc with any weapon, heres the list of all possible
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1r7ySwkjfMxR2dxSmt1cXhXc0U/view
dead edition
>>125716780
fuck me for being retarded then
thanks broseph stalin
>>125708651
Not saying she isn't a bitch overall, just saying she may just be putting on an act half the time.
>>125719847
>haha guys got you I was only pretending to be a huge bitch!
>>125702147
you don't need a wizard just a leader with the guidance skill (wiz get this for free tho)
>join game
>awaiting rescue
well that sucks
then they wiped
post art
>>125724645
>decide to gamble some exotics for saltz since I had a bunch of tokens and nothing to use them for
>get a couple rapiers with some nice traits (better than what I was using)
>get absolute trash rolls on them so they're not worth using
I think it's time to start using cheat engine.
Is blunderbuss worse than the grudge raker? I hated the raker and I'm not sure if I want to bother fusing some I have instead of scrapping them.
we need to dump pics to keep this thread alive
ded as ded
>>125716780
Any chance you have a list of trinkets on hand?
>>125734583
>tfw no Kerillian lewds to bump with
>>125734843
Fuck elves.
>>125734993
Yeah, that's the goal.
>>125698380
>vermintide got me so into warhammer that I'm now in a warhammer 2e game.
Playing a ratcatcher senpai.
>>125734750
https://mega.nz/#F!EVhTiQCJ!gTnBE5GzuN990zDkmh-RQQ
download item list, trinkets are on the very bottom
>>125737765
aaaaaaaaaaaay thanks breh
Are explosive bombs better than fire bombs?
>>125743204
I think it's explosive bombs are good for storms and ogres, while firebombs are good for hordes.
>>125734843
I want to make a comic where kruber and kerilian are banging, kerilian says "crude but effective seargeant" and kruber does his generic "you like that?!"
>>125702754
I think one of long drongs slayer pirates would make a cool character. He could have some dual wield options like two axes, axe/hammer, and maybe a 1h axe that has throwing weapons usable in the same fashion as the rapiers pistol. Ranged weapons could include any type of dwarven firearms, and maybe throwing axes.
>>125749014
Hell, if you wanted a DLC pack, a bunch of mercenaries from the Dogs of War book'd be fun.
>Al Muktar's Desert Dogs
>Beorg Bearstruck and the Bearmen of Urslo
>Birdmen of Catrazza
>Mengil Manhide's Manflayers
>Lumpin Croop's Fighting Cocks
>Vespero's Vendetta
And so on
rats
post yfw you hear the marching sounds of stormvermin patrol
And you don't have any bombs handy
>>125755973
Just avoid them, jesus. Or use a mastercrafted rupture handgun and rek their shit.
>>125755973
Why would you need to bomb a stormvermin patrol when they are usually incredibly easy to avoid?
>>125755973
>mfw those shitters who ignore the rest of the group and go rambo a patrol to lose their grimoire and cost us several health packs
>>125755973
I FUCKING CHUG MY LEAN AND RUN RIGHT AT THE FUCKERS ON CATACLYSM
One day they will be worth fighting and you will have to LEARN-LEARN if you want LOOTS man-thing.
People actually fight the Patrols?
I mean I kill them on hard, normal and easy because why not, but there's no reason anyone should ever even see them up close in NM and Cata..
>>125760924
Depending on timing there's some spots where they're unavoidable.
>>125761003
Idk Patrols and Ogres don't really run on an RNG system, like there are 3 or 4 places on each map where one or the other can happen, but they will never be as random as the other specials.
Anyone else curious about how the ever-promised survival mode will work?
Map where you have to fight 2 ogres at once when?
>>125761003
>tfw the patrol turns around and starts walking forawards through the map
>stuck awkwardly following them and hoping they don't turn around
>>125761268
You'll survive as long as you can and then stop surviving
>>125761536
fucking incredible
>>125761268
Jeff Probst replaces all rats
>>125761268
I wonder how they're gonna handle loot dice in them, since I assume that they'll let you get loot in survival mode. Are you gonna get progressively better dice at the end the longer you survive? Are they gonna let you take tomes and grims at the start?
I played blackpowder recently
Wow they really fucked this map, only two barrels at once? Why?
>>125762734
They should do something along the lines of what warframe did. Wave based, you get a break and reward every X number of waves, and you can either bug out or stay for more. Make it to wave 10 you get both the wave 5 and 10 rewards, 15 gets you 3 items, die on wave 18 and you lose everything etc.
Gotta let people leave individually though and have either a bot takeover or the next set not start until everyone remaining readies up.
>pounced by runner
>team kills him
>3rd person recovery animation starts
>pounced again before I can even move by a 2nd runner
>team shoves him off but doesn't kill him
>packmaster comes around the corner and grabs me during that recovery animation
>team kills PM pretty quickly, no biggie
>pounced by that MIA second assassin during the packmaster recovery
Jesus christ that had to have been at least 20 solid seconds where I just had to sit there and watch my character get raped over and over, and I wasn't evenplaying the elf. Why are the recovery animations so damn long anyway?
>>125763486
Maybe they couldn't figure out a way to fix the exploits, so they just fucked the spawning up instead?
>>125763486
>>125765151
I don't play that map but I believe it was to stop people just loading all 8 in one go and making the map easily farmable.
>click on nm engine lobby
>loading screen says hom normal
>drop in
>it's hom hard
>get attacked by invisible rats
good game
I've stopped receiving the green items on level-up since level 168.Is this the NASTY SURPRISE?
>>125769361
I've stopped receiving them since 80
>>125771339
Pro elf indeed.
Why is elf even popular, when BW is clearly the ezmode class with beam staff?
>>125771994
Elf is a shitter bait unlike BW.
Anyone has a spreadsheet with all the values? I feel like Kruber's 2h hammer is slower than Bardin's. But I also feel Kurber is overal slower but that must be due to his size.
>>125773768
You're wrong, both 2h hammers are using one file for their stats.
>>125752398
I fucking loved dogs of war, it'd just come out when I got into WH as a kid
Shame they discontinued it
>>125771994
Because they dual wield
DW is always the popular class
Annoying for me because I'm still early in the game and all my fucking good loot has turned out to be elf drops, despite not playing the elf and using a character trinket
Can't ever play it and use said loot because elf is always picked
Nothing like seeing a promising game die due to colossal incompetence while shitty mobas and sacrilegious heresies like fallout 4 are buzzing with activity.
>>125781506
>fagshark
>promising
cuck
>>125781576(you)
>>125761119
Stormweenies are a bit more flexible, I think. They probably spawn in a few specific places, but they can travel all over the damn place.
>some faggot loses 2nd grim for no good reason
>end mission
>1 off from getting an exotic
every time
>>125781506
Wait for freeweekend and some popular youtube guy to play / stream it and the game will be back on trail.
Full of shitters,but atleast.
>join hard because sick of hom and not feeling like doing normal
>unbelievable shitters and unbelievable lag
>fight lag the best I can
>carry their twice downed asses and one dead to the end
at least I hope I managed to get them closer to the hard achievement
>>125784726
we can play hard or nightmare right now if you want. what country you live in, boy
>>125784850
Isle of Man
>>125785946
Fuck off mate you're our province
>>125780720
Host a game and chose elf before anyone else does then.
>>125786515
I joined that game today and couldn't give 2 steps without warping around. I'm seeing lots of funny names I've never even heard aside from Malt.
I'm surprised they have games at all.
this shitty game really got me.
I still can't believe I've poured 420+ hours in it and ahve all achievements.
>mfw a low level elf camps the ammo box on the roof near the first well with his true flight while we're all defending the second well on Well Watch
>mfw he goes on to die not once, but three times
>mfw I have no face.
>>125789509
what lvl are you
>reaching end of a garden of morr nightmare run
>stormvermin patrol appears right before the wagon and we all get destroyed due to bullshit spawning
>>125792993
201
Saw a guy who was level 292 yesterday and another 107. We played a hard match with some poor 47(host).
It was surprisingly easy. Despite hard being ez mod.
>>125794616
>only 201
not enough exploiting 2bh
>>125795036
It's 5000xp forever after that. I think cata with two tomes and two grims yields a little over 3000.
If I wasn't sick of enemby bellow I could rack up more levels quickly.
I think a killing floor tier "endless defense" would be pretty nice. Or the actual survival(?) left 4 dead had. Or something where you need to grab parts and make a key or something.
Anything new. Game modes at least. Something.
JUST
>>125797562
Didn't they say they were going to add an endless defense with the free DLC?
God, I love this game but the community is so autistic.
>>125807905
are there any games where it's the opposite?
>finally get a 7 roll on nightmare
>worse in every way to existing 2h
oh boy
>>125809482
>yfw the addition of reds effectively make getting good items even harder than before
Goddamn Swedes
>>125810103
They didn't make it harder to get good gear, they just added another tier on top of it
>>125810817
Yeah and it's a tier full of shit. You now have to roll higher than all the low tier shit but lower than the red weapons. At least the red hats were something up to aesthetic taste rather than objectively inferior stats/traits.
Just had an ally repeatedly die because they flat out wouldn't drink their potion despite having white health
This happened three times
>>125812249
What level were they? Also was it on NM?
>>125812426
low level but like 8 or so meaning they've played for a few hours
I explained the entire mechanic to them step by step and they wouldn't do it.
I want to help new players but damn is it annoying sometimes
>>125812549
>level 8
It's safe to assume anyone below 50 is a brainless shitter, you'll be proven right more often than not. Don't even bother trying to help people like that out.
Karl Franz Ascendant when.
>>125815062
>tfw no resurrected Emperor Mandred Skavenslayer
Female ref eww
>>125816623
>King's name is Skavenslayer
>But Skaven don't exist guys really! Nothing to worry about, just drunken tales and beastmen.
>>125818625
>>125821095
Skaven are fairly well accepted as dumb beastmen variants, the bit they keep under wraps is the massive world-spanning underground empire full of technological marvels.
I want to marry the Bright Wizard, I don't care if she's easily twice my age.
>>125822161
wish you could change her robes
I think the flames on her clothing are silly
>>125822889
What are you talking about. She's just following the /v/ clothing guide.
>>125823583
I hate it
>>125822889
Bright wizards are not great at subtlety.
It's pretty fucking stupid that they haven't done the last 2 altar pages yet
DLC was pratically half of what it was meant to be
>>125825396
dead game 2bh, took them 2 months to release one page of the altar
d e a d
>>125825514
Apparently it's done but they're scared of fucking up the game while everyone is on Christmas vacation so they're withholding the patch.
>>125826795
tfw no xmas vacation
i only get 25th free
I guess the game just really wants me to push
>game keeps giving me orange BW maces
>literally 4 in a row
>have the soldier trinket
>still getting the worst melee weapon for a class I never play
>keep getting beamed by a BW
>comment on how much FF damage it does without calling him out on it
>"oh this isn't Normal?"
>>125831337
>playing dwarf
>bw trinket
>3 different elf melee weapons in a row (on good rolls)
Trouble is I'm still on a white bow so I can't even make full use of the class
>BW ends a double grim run by overheating and blowing the whole party up
Jesus christ how dumb can you be?
Do most people run grims on Cata? I can pretty much carry shitters through double grim NM just fine but I don't want to join a cata game and turn into the shitter myself
>have orange hammer with shitty traits
>pray for a ES melee, hoping to get one with better traits
>get a hammer
>neat
>see this
Th-Thanks Sigmar
>>125831514
Sometimes when you join Catas and NM's in progress, your load screen will tell you that you are joining normal mode. This game is shit.
>>125837927
You should still know what difficulty you're queuing up for.
>>125838168
If you're joining through the server browser it glitches out sometimes.
I've joined a bunch of games and ended up in different difficulties than I selected, and sometimes even different maps.
i just accidently salvaged old companion ;_;
>>125845009
Time to farm the reskin that turns it slightly red.
>>125845009
Pretty sure you could use cheat engine to get it back.
>>125846806
NASTY SURPRISE
>>125847263
What'd you mean?
How do I git gud with a cult of the possesed warband?
>>125845009
It's sort of odd that the default hats can be salvaged when there's no way outside of CE to get them back.
>>125852126
Wait, if you salvage a hat with nothing to take its place what does your character wear? Could you have hatless kruber like in the opening cinematic if you aren't in the steam group and have no other hats?
>>125852459
You can't salvage equipped items. It's surprising that hatless kruber isn't already available though. But he does already have the best selection of hats out of all the characters.
>>125847794
Dev posted that cheaters will be getting a "very nasty surprise very soon" but that was back in october. Most people figure they're bluffing or just too incompetent to implement anything meaningful.
>>125852570
Ah right, I forgot about that rule. Shame, the bald dorf gets a hatless hat but handsome kruber doesn't.
>join NM run as elf
>gun people down with Hagbane
>leave
I did this a few times, and I was having a good laugh about it. Now I just feel awful.
>>125854769
>griefing
>in a co-op game
That's just poor form really. Unless it's horn. Fuck people that still run horn all day, they deserve it.
>>125852779
Kruber is my husbandono homo
so a buddy bought me this game like a week ago
>90% of the games i've played have been horn because people beg to farm it and/or don't host anything else and i am fucking sick of it
>i haven't gotten anything better than a green because drops have been shit even though i've brought in more books than a fucking library
>elf is an unlikable bitch and ruins the bro-tier team dynamic that is wizard/hunter/soldier/ranger
>elf players are ALWAYS enormous faggot shitters because MUH MARKSMAN or MUH DUAL-WIELDING
>rat ogres have way too much health for their movement speed
>the game has so much potential and it's being squandered by the developers AND the community
>mfw
>>125860348
>the game has so much potential and it's being squandered by the developers AND the community
Ain't that the truth.
>>125860728
It pisses me off because there's a lot of really clever shit. Bright Wizard's mechanics, for instance, or the special enemies. But at the same time there's so much GARBAGE.
I've heard about the NASTY SURPRISE and all I can think of is "L4D was never rife with cheaters because cheating wasn't necessary to be viable". I've finally given up and just CE'd the weapons that I wanted (thank you to the fine folks that discussed it earlier in the thread) - I'm having a reasonable amount of fun fighting mobs of enemies and enjoying the levels instead of constantly worrying about tomes and sucking RNG cock to get something mildly useful from dice.
If someone is somewhere around level 170 or more - are they a cheater? Or is it possible to get that high with for example grinding BP Cata exploit runs?
>>125852683
They deleted that post anyway. It's clear that they don't have anything planned.
And if they're gonna try and catch cheaters in the first place, it helps to have some kind of way to tell them apart from everyone else. Which they currently don't.
>>125861418
Well they were also worried about VAC with l4d I'm sure. I did run into a few cheaters in vs because the vs community was fucking cancer, but most people weren't going to risk being locked out of every source game.
>>125862137
It's possible, check their time played if you can.
Although at levels that high, it's more than likely they did do some sort of CE stuff for a while.
I saw one guy named Sigmar who was level 432.
What's a better rapier setup?
>bloodlust, swift slaying(normal), dev blow
>regrowth(normal), berserking, dev blow
I can't remember if regrowth caps at 7 or 10 for rapiers.
Also what's the ideal 2h hammer setup, bloodlust, dev blow, and what? Swift slaying charged has shit for proc chance, and you can't get both zerking and bloodlust so I have no idea what should go in that slot. Extra stamina? Maybe normal swift slaying for the high proc chance on ogres/storms?
>>125865131
I like Perfect Balance, Bloodlust, Devastating blow. I get a lot more value out of the defensive bonuses over something like swift slaying or berserking which never proc all that often for me.
>>125866875
I'd nasty surprise the loli-loli if you know what I mean-mean.
>>125852683
They made a few sanity checks on tokens/grims to try and stop CE modifications but now we have lua injections and I doubt they can fix that.
>>125866218
>>125865131
You're both retarded, the perfect setup is:
wh_fencing_sword_0232 Killing Blow(Normal Attack) Regrowth(Normal Attack) Off Balance
>>125865131
>can't remember if regrowth caps at 7 or 10 for rapiers
It caps at 5.
>ideal 2h hammer setup, bloodlust, dev blow, and what?
Safety In Numbers
>>125868963
She looks more teenaged than loli.
fuck everything with an unparryable attack
I guess I'm gonna need to train a dodge-tank specifically to fight rat ogres and those chaos fuckers
>>125878487
>She
>>125879519
Yes, "loli" refers to young girls. Hence, why I assumed he was talking about the girl on the far right, who looks more low-teens, rather than the younger boy on the left.
>>125834431
enemy bloew
>>125879596
Japanese terms are so difficult, enjoy complementary rat.
>>125879850
no problem kouhai, feel free to ask your sempai whenever you need assistance
>>125845009
It's ok senpai. 00 are the default hats.
>>125851182
play it like skaven
>>125862137
>Let you skip right to the end
The White Rat.
Garden of Morr.
>Could glitch enemies
Black Powder.
The Horn of Magnus.
>Still easy to do legit on cata.
The Enemy Bellow.
Smuggler's Run.
I'm sorry that you were late to the party but some time ago you could finish cata runs in no time and get 3500xp each 7 minutes or so.
Besides, once you reach a certain level the amount of xp required to level up is capped at 5000 which equals 2 or 3 runs in nightmare.
>>125880164
>using unobtainable hats
its like ure asking for NASTY SURPRISE
does view players just not work in this game?
there's so many people I wantto block
>>125880949
There won't be a crackdown until they start selling the hats themselves
It's not even worth trying to educate new players.
>>125885608
the amount of scum is truly high but so it is on any game
change your mentality when playing with pubs, you are the only player who can be trusted, don't even bother telling people where health or ammo always spawn
>>125885608
Worked pretty fine for me, though I'm just giving simple advice.
>"If you didn't see, T lets you mark things blue and callout."
>"Strength pots make bombs and your ranged weapons do more too."
>"You can cancel heavy attacks with block."
>"Most rat ogre attacks are pretty easy to dodge if you watch."
Just all that good stuff that it helps to pick up quick.
>>125865131
How's the red rapier?
>>125887694
its garbage, looks nice though. shame we wont be able to reroll red weapons
>>125887847
Do you at least get more shards from chucking them into the pot?
>>125888305
Yep
>>125887847
What's should I be hoping for in a rapier then for exotic?
>>125888305
twice as normal exotic
which staff is worth using ?
i see mostly the beam or the aoe getting spammed, are the other type good enough too ?
i never play as the fire bitch but i have two orange staff for her
even kfg is more alive than this
>>125893701
beam is the best, there's literally no reason to use the others
>>125894279
what makes it the best?
>>125896015
fuck you thats what
>>125896015
cba to explain, just use and trust me
>>125896015
Ticks every .5 seconds, making it do tons of damage and stunlock specials. Also, high accuracy and you get to blame your teammates if they walk into the big ass lazer. Also the little shotgun prmary does no FF damage.
>>125896015
Lots of range with the beam part, and the left-click shotgun blast is instant in a wide cone. Bonus for the shotgun click not doing friendly fire damage in nightmare+. The beam can also wreck rat ogres.
What's the best red tier weapon?
>>125897072
trueflight
>>125897072
Bardin and Kruber handguns seem to be the only non-trash.
>>125896015
makes ogres a joke even on nightmare
>>125897468
>no extra ammunition
>not trash
ogre character when
>>125898228
>extra ammunition
A craftsman needs only one shot, 'raki.
>>125898228
the fuck you need extra ammo on a hadngun, dont tell me youre kill slaverats with it le elf style
>>125897072
elven sword and dagger, literally perfect traits and 10% regrowth proc chance (normally it's 5%)
>>125898228
non-trash != ideal
They're useable if you don't have an orange that has better traits to suit.
What are best traits for brace of pistols?
>>125898725
Haste/Hail of Doom/Skullcracker
>>125898479
>le elf style
jesus this reddit meme needs to die already
>>125898479
>perfect traits
>no devastating blow
enjoy that black rat dick, elf.
>>125898820
>hail of doom
>extra shot that doesn't even hit where you're aiming
>It's literally easier to farm nightmare with bots than retarded players
Why they can't pick up tomes/grim again?
>>125898473
Cata constantly throws specials at you plus there's always storm to kill.
>>125900870
>they can't
gut gud
>>125900870
They can pick up tomes if they have no healing item, but will ditch them once they find health. They can't pick up potions, so that means they wouldn't bother with grims either. Like how L4D2 bots couldn't use melee.
>>125900513
Regrowth>Devastating Blow
and hail of doom is perfect, it will still hit ogre in the head because its head is huge and sometimes you gotta hit ogre on the body anyway, it's not like you can always get perfect headshots hence the Skullcracker trait.
>>125901426
You can play BW and burn them with beam to force them to use their healing items and pick tomes again.
>>125901426
They also don't pick up bombs, how hard is that to code? And why not give tomes the priority? Since you can use medikits to heal them anyway, not that they really need it.
>>125901583
That's actually a good idea, didn't think of it, I'll do that.
>>125901627
Because they didn't expect people to be autistic enough to play with bots, bots are supposed to fill for that disconnected player for a minute or two.
You guys are pure essence of autism, why play coop games at all?
>>125901767
>You guys are pure essence of autism, why play coop games at all?
Not my fault if people are so shit they are worse than bots.
>10 lvl on nightmare
>lets give him a chance
>he agros a patrol
>we wipe
i deserved that
when should i go try cataclysm ?
i have a few more missions to do in nightmare to do everything, and it's fucking hard as fuck with the random pubbies all the time
>>125902819
man the ramparts is pretty easy, did it with randoms no mics 2nd try
>near cart in enemy bellow
>down in health because of rat bullshit range and lag
>taking damage out of nowhere
>jesus christ what the fuck
>kruber's dialog deciphers the puzzle
fucking elfs
>>125903024
>ever using mics
>>125902819
I did everything in nm with a mate + 2 shit randoms, the only map that took a few tries to do was the white rat since people after months from the release still don't fucking know how to kite the ogre.
>>125902001
I never understood those complaints. My 3T2G nightmare runs on Enemy Below/Garden of Morr/Wizard Tower are 90% successes, something really bad or stupid must happen for us to actually wipe, like throwing fire bombs at teammates or shit.
>>125901447
I almost feel like showing you a decent orange sword and dagger but I don't want to open Photoshop to compare.
>>125903272
Killing Blow/Regrowth/Off balance is the best set of traits for both rapier and s&d.
>>125903197
>nightmare
>>125903197
>like throwing fire bombs at teammates or shit.
Happens more often than you imagine, it also gets fucking annoying to have to carry the whole party because they are completely incapable of blocking and die every 2 minutes and then they also try to grab the grims despite being fucking shit just to lose die twice at the end.
>>125903469
>doing cata with randoms
>>125903435
kek
>>125903512
2bh I like carrying shitters. One time my entire team wiped at the barrel part in Enemy Below and I managed to fight off two hordes and finish the objective. Ran entire way to the cart by myself praying to Sigmar for no ninja packmaster/assassin.
They were praising me like some god. Felt good even doe we lost 2 tomes and 1 grim.
>>125903608
Well, what other set of traits is better?
