No Edition Edition
> Can the game be considered a full release?
No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state.
The game is nowhere near being able to stand on its own legs both from a gameplay perspective (career mode is definitely not ready and balanced) and a stability perspective.
There are still major bugs and memory leaks that shouldn't exist on a finished game.
> Are there big issues with the game?
Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.
> What are the devs doing?
Modified versions of popular mods are being included in the stock game while the game engine is being upgraded to its latest version. The next major update (1.1) is supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better.
An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U. They seem to be rushing for an imminent deadline and they are also working on a version of the game that will be obsolete in a few weeks/months.
> Should I buy the game?
KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity, but doing so may dramatically increase the instability of the game. You will be very familiar with the word "Oops!".
The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics.
The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you shouldn't purchase the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwqjCj6kgc [Embed] [Embed]
Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2lDHNmRFw [Embed] [Embed]
/kspg/'s (outdated) modlist and FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/vrFCBFYk
NEW MODLIST. Old FAQ is still retained above.
http://pastebin.com/vM6CE7YJ
>Game site
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/download.html
>KSP mods
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/34-add-on-releases/
>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0
>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg
>Some useful calculators
http://alterbaron.github.io/ksp_aerocalc/
http://ksp.olex.biz/
>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/
>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY
>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if
>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html
>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/
>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org
>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html
BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Bonnie Tyler, Kek, Take On Mars, ULA posting, and planes are also welcome ITT.
First for OpenTTD
>>125684929
Every change to the OP has to be discussed.
Why change the OP anyway?
>>125685062
IIRC that other OP was a proposal that went along this OP we have now, apparently this one won and that one didn't so this is probably the butthurt loser that is trying to come back.
Don't quote me on that tho, I wasn't around when the OP change was discussed.
>>125685345
You're right on what you said.
>>125685062
>implying this change wasn't discussed
>implying it wasn't agreed upon
>implying faggots just want to make a big deal out of nothing
http://strawpoll.me/5961141/r
>There is an IRC where billies discuss /kspg/ and spam it to defend brave, delicate squadcast.
We may not have lives but they are even worse.
BURN SQUADCAST
TONIGHT AT 6PM EST ON TWITCH DOT TV SLASH KSPTV
If I've learned anything today, it's that the shills are real, and we must burn squadcast with the fury of a thousand suns.
>>125685627
>posting an old as fuck strawpoll
There was a newer one where we decided between this one and the other one.
We decided on this one >>125684627
You just want to be a special snowflake.
>>125685706
That's the point of that passage.
>>125685646
>implying billy actually knows what /kspg/ is
>implying he doesn't just sees it as a scary 4chan subforum
>>125685627
>posts old as balls poll where he wins against old OP
>doesn't post the newer one where he loses against the new OP
I can feel your anus burning from here, anon
>>125685917
But what I don't understand is why he brings it up now. We've been using the current OP for over a month now.
>>125685780
>>125685917
>the other strawpoll was made a few days later
>"newer"
Keep reaching, Anon. It amuses me greatly.
>>125686046
Please answer to >>125686030
Why do you bring it up now? We all decided the OP we currently use was better.
I thought everything was okay by now.
>>125686046
So you are trying to say that it was not newer because it wasn't posted after a completely arbitrary amount of time from your proposal?
Heh...your grasping is showing
You lost
Get over it
If humans could harvest energy at extremely low efficiency rate from your butthurt, the world would be set for several hundred years
>>125686221
Because the current OP sounds like some sort of pitiful tone-policed disaster. It literally sounds like something written by a Squad apologist just trying to fit in.
Reminder that this went to QA.
>>125686389
That wasn't really my question.
We all decided to make the OP look a bit more professional.
And it doesn't excuse anything. It brings everything to the point.
My question was why start bitching about it NOW?
>>125686370
>So you are trying to say that it was not newer because it wasn't posted after a completely arbitrary amount of time from your proposal?
Yep. Just as you declared that it was too old to be considered valid because the poll was taken an arbitrary length of time ago.
>>125686390
Reminder that its intended since otherwise there would be no underwater engines in stock.
>Played Todd's Little Lie: Fallout Edition
>Realized it had less to do than Todd's Little Lie: Elder Scrolls Edition
>Instantly Bored
>Play KSP for a while
>Realized there's nothing fun to do
>Exit it within 30 minutes
>Decide to play Terrafirmacraft again
>I'm actually having fun
>>125686389
You should have brought up your doubts sooner you idiot, we discussed OPs for weeks, this OP was voted against yours.
There is nothing to discuss again.
Make a new OP and post it here so everyone can vote on it again, but your old OP is not going to be used, since it lost.
Forcing your OP without asking is the fastest way to make everyone hate it
>>125686550
Because it's still a shit OP. It isn't a fine wine, and it isn't getting any better with time. At least the alternate OP isn't a load of tone-policed garbage.
>>125686556
>Just as you declared that it was too old to be considered valid
That's completely missing the point. It's like president Bush walking into the white house now, kicking Obama in his butt and proclaim he's president again.
>>125686842
Tell me, anon. Do you remember *why* this second OP was proposed?
>>125686780
I don't really follow the fo4 community, what did Todd lie about this time?
>>125686960
Because someone apparently didn't like your version.
>>125687115
It's a meme you dip
>>125687139
Not quite. It's because somebodymost likely MMAN or one of the other paranoid assholes like Mirk or someone,started screaming SHILLS because the OP was changed after we voted on it, and he didn't notice the discussion we'd already had.
>>125686556
OK, I'll explain to you the logic since you are clearly too stupid to get it yourself or you are pretending to be stupid.
I said it was old and I was implying that a straw poll several weeks/months old could have been manipulated in all sorts of ways to make it show what you want it to show (in this case: your OP was good).
Since you posted it anyway and decided that malicious manipulation was not an issue, I brought up the other poll, which was newer because it was posted after yours, in which, at the time it was posted, your OP lost against this new OP.
now the choice is yours, you can disregard the newer poll (for the same reason I am disregarding the one you posted), but at that point both polls are not valid anymore and yoh should go through the usual approval process again OR you can assume both polls are valid, brag about winning against the old OP, but you should also acknowledge the newer poll where you clearly lose against the competition.
The fact that you saved a poll link for all this time makes it clear how butthurt you are, so this logic will never get to your brain and you will keep screaming le shillmaster meme at everyone because you are an idiot.
>>125687374
Still we voted again afterwards if we'd use your version or the current one. The current one won. Why are we still arguing about this?
>>125687115
The title.
This is not a poll about which OP we will use, that was already decided upon by the group as being the OP used in this thread.
This is a poll about which OP you personally prefer. For the purposes of keeping the poll options as unambiguous as possible, "this thread" is defined as >>125684627 (with a comic shopped with Hullo) and "that thread" is defined as >>125684301 (with Oneill cylinders).
http://strawpoll.me/6293021
>>125687374
It was still voted as a better alternative to your OP.
Holy fuck you are truly mad
>>125687678
At this point I can't even be mad about F4.
Skyrim sold like hot buns and it was clear that they'll just take the same try on Fallout.
People who believed the hype have to blame only themselves. Believing any hype is dumb.
I didn't bought it and I'm happy about it.I hope they'll update the engine, and switch the team for the next Elder Scrolls game.
>>125687848
>this is not a poll to decide which OP is better
>this is a poll to decide which OP, in your opinion, is better
Gr8 logic m8
>>125687992
I specifically wrote the words "use" and "prefer" instead of what you wrote.
Please get some cream for your burnt booty.
>>125687585
>I said it was old and I was implying that a straw poll several weeks/months old could have been manipulated in all sorts of ways to make it show what you want it to show (in this case: your OP was good).
At which point brings into question the other Strawpoll as well. Since you accept that the other one wasn't manipulated, it's illogical for you to raise the same argument for the one I posted.
>now the choice is yours, you can disregard the newer poll (for the same reason I am disregarding the one you posted), but at that point both polls are not valid anymore and yoh should go through the usual approval process again OR you can assume both polls are valid, brag about winning against the old OP, but you should also acknowledge the newer poll where you clearly lose against the competition.
Except that this isn't some sort of competition. The current OP is shit, bordering on Pro-Squad shilling, and I simply didn't feel like using it. Want me to not make threads with that OP? Let's write a new one that isn't tone policed into the ground.
>The fact that you saved a poll link for all this time makes it clear how butthurt you are
Or I have clipboard memory. Or I don't wipe my history all that often. Occam's Razor is your friend.
>>125687848
>inb4 this OP wins again and the guy starts saying shills are multivoting to make him lose.
Wait, lemme grab some popcorns
>>125688151
Then just don't create OP's anymore.
It's as easy as that.
>>125688276
Nah, I think I'll keep making new OPs.
>>125688151
So you have a gripe against the OP but rather than taking this to the group, you instead decided that you are better than everyone else and took matters into your own hands. Now you're acting surprised when everyone else calls you a fucking dumbass.
You can still have a discussion about the OP if you want, but don't go making decisions on behalf of other people.
>>125687374
wow you need to stop bringing me up, it's almost like you want me to trip. I never commented on your shite OP polls and I never even voted. I don't give a fuck.
Thanks for making me trip, faggot. Nowget off my dick
For what it's worth, I'm the guy who wrote the original angry screed that you guys ended up using in your OP for all that time, and I actually prefer the current OP over mine. It looks much more professional, and less salty. (I was feeling REALLY salty when I wrote the old one.)
>>125688151
>Pro-Squad shilling
Let's see...
>No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state.
>Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.
>An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U. They seem to be rushing for an imminent deadline and they are also working on a version of the game that will be obsolete in a few weeks/months.
>The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you shouldn't purchase the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.
Wow, we really want people to get the game, don't we?
TRUMP 2016
>>125688151
>trying this hard.
You bring up a straw poll, you already assume it is valid.
I bring up a straw poll and say "hey, isn't that a bit too old? If you are OK with that one, you are OK with this one where it shows you lose"
I'm giving you the option, since you are the one that started this mess.
You decide, I adapt to your decision.
You decide your straw poll is good? Fine, but then you have to acknowledge the other straw poll too and this discussion ends here because the poll shows your OP loses against the one we are using now. Nothing to decide anymore, kspg already chose.
You decide that both strawpolls need to be disregarded (despite everyone saying you lost anyway)? Fine, then you start proposing your OP again, have it revised in multiple thread at multiple hours so every time zone for several days can see it and then we will look at the results.
But since you are an angry cunt and forced your OP down everyone's throat, nobody will like your new proposal. Get over it.
>>125688638
Wow, just wow.
Do you know how racist he is?
Don't you know that we need free everything?
BERNIE SANDERS 2016!!!!
new rule: you must convene a council in flockmod AND create a strawpoll to reach democractic consensus
BUT, by arguing about this we are letting the shills win, since they want us to weakly question internal policy instead of spinning up the SQUADCAST BURNING
AT 6PM EST TONIGHT ON TWITCH DOT TV SLASH KSPTV
>>125686748
Reminder that there is no need for underwater engines because it's a fucking space game.
s t o p d i s c u s s i n g k s p
s t o p d i s c u s s i n g k s p
s t o p d i s c u s s i n g k s p
s t o p d i s c u s s i n g k s p
s t o p d i s c u s s i n g k s p
this general has nothing to do with ksp. this is the shitposting general. ksp is a shit game, squad is raw plutonium. you're only poisoning yourself by discussing either.
>>125689017
Can we make an exception for burning squadcast in case we have anger issues and it's our only outlet?
>>125688942
>implying there will be a squadcast
>>125688456
Hey, I'm the one that usually screams at you for tripping and I'm not the angry kid you are replying to.
Stop assuming it's always the same person attacking you.and stop tripping
>>125689091
yes, burning squadcast is tradition
>>125688942
Who's in charge of Squadcast anyway? Now that Max is gone and neither badie nor turkey don't want to show their faces it sounds even more boring than before.
Atleast I could laugh about Max dumb face before.
Oh good lord who would have ever imagined such an outcome.
>>125689335
Don't rub it in his face. I don't want him to get even angrier.
small plen
>>125688050
You said "prefer" so, in the unlikely case your OP wins, you can come back here screaming HEY GUYS YOU ALL LIKED MY OP BEST, WE SHOULD USE THIS ONE FOR THE NEXT THREAD AND FOREVER, HAHAH I KNEW THE OTHER OP WAS NOT LEGIT IM SUCH A MASTERMIND
You angry kids are so predictable
How about we all relax?
Last week we were able to make some progress by pointing out that if there's no dev news squadcast is "a kiddie stream with cursing" -- that made him force a few people to go "uhhh I'm working on... stuff" and he got kinda pissy.
He also said questions need to be constructive and he'll answer them, but he didn't realize my question was "Have you contacted B9 to see if he'd be interested in burying the hatchet" so I'm gonna double down on that this week
What pieces of kindling do you guys think will be effective at BURNING SQUADCAST tonight?
I haven't even posted since the first mention of tone policing. What the fuck is going on here.
>>125690402
Angry kids being butthurt and angry
>>125690402
A guy is trying to force his OP instead of using the current one.
>>125690591
No you misunderstand - I'm the faggot trying to force his OP.
>>125690402
>guyA makes new OP-A
>it's voted better than old OP
>guyB makes new OP-B shortly after
>it's voted better than both the old OP and OP-A
>kspg goes on as usual, using the new OP-B
>weeks pass
>extremely butthurt guyA makes a thread with OP-A, out of nowhere
>shitstorm ensues
You should grab your popcorns too, this is going to be fun
>>125690721
Okay, I don't get it. I'll come back again in an hour or two and hopefully everything has calmed down.
>>125688456
Literally nobody in history ever thought "man, I really really look forward to MAN tripping again"
Correct thread.
..And he was never heard of againuntil next thread, when he will come back and pretend none of this ever happened
Hey losers
Guess who is driving again
>>125692545
Any new planets added in .28/.29?
Kinda thinking about reinstalling since B9 updated.
>>125693537
Nope, no planets
>>125693537
>meme9
>ever
>>125693537
No new planets at all
What there is, however, is newer and better planet mods
>>125692545
You!
>>125693537
Who needs more planets when 85% of the playerbase can't get to the moon?
>>125694107
>who needs more planets when there is absolutely nothing to do on every one of them?
FTFY
>"hey boss,we need to buy new Christmas lights"
>why? Don't we have the stars and blinking lights from last year?
>"eh..I was thinking something more CHRISTMAS"
>like what? Blinking stars and and LED Santas climbing the building?
>"no boss, I was thinking about a carpet of white blinding lights with a carpet of blue blinding lights in the middle so drivers on the highway can see how Christmas we are"
>awesome, approved
>>125695351
I dislike christmas.
>>125694075
Outer Planets is my favorite. Might need to play again. I missed a lot of the moons.
>>125694107
I've never landed on Tylo. Got kerbals to Laythe, Vall, Pol, and Eeloo though.
Stranded there, but still landed.
>playing medieval total war 1
>comfy as fuck
>walk away from desk for a phone call
>come back
>crashed
>no autosave
>sprawling turkish empire lost
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>125696053
>Turks
You deserved it
even: keep playing ksp
odd: go to the store
I get back from dinner and see my poll had the desired effect. Good job everyone.
>>125696449
Nah, just waiting for you to come back sweetheart.
I can't believe you faggots can justify tone policing in your own goddamn OP.
THE SHILLS WANT US TO TALK ABOUT TONE POLICING
BURN SQUADCAST IN TWO HOURS
TWITCH DOT TV SLASH KSPTV
>>125697609
Now I wasn't around for when the discussions about the OP changes were going on, but I do remember someone pointing out the old OP sounded crazy enough to get people to not take anything we said seriously.
The current OP of this thread says much the same thing as the old one, but it says it in a way that doesn't make us all out to be incredibly butthurt over the tiniest details, and points out the genuine concerns we all have about the games development. The much more measured and "tone policed" version means people are less likely to outright deny any and all claims made out of a kneejerk reaction to the text sounding like it came from a crazed conspiracy theorist, and are more likely to take the points made into consideration.
If I'm wrong about any of that (since I wasn't around), someone please correct me.
>>125698039
Nope, that's right
>>125698039
There's nothing wrong with tearing the game down in a measured way. There is, however, something wrong with policing your tone - this isn't the fucking subreddit.
Read the OP - it ignores most of the biggest issues about KSP, and reads more like it's trying to appease /kspg/'s opinions on things as opposed to actually saying anything. And to make matters worse, the places where it *does* say anything negative about KSP manages to be vague enough to confuse somebody new coming into the thread.
>>125698891
How is the shit in >>125688528 ignoring the issues?
>>125698891
see >>125688528
At this point you just want to become a meme.
>>125698891
>Read the OP - it ignores most of the biggest issues about KSP
Name some
my boss just put $500 in my hand.
I should quit 4chan and focus solely on my job.
>>125698891
OK now repeat after me:
"Someone wrote a better OP than mine and I'm not happy about it"
>>125698950
>>125698972
>Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta.
This can be easily misconstrued as saying that the game *is* in early access. That isn't the case. This is a full release. Treat it as such - that isn't a clever joke, it's adding needless confusion.
>Modified versions of popular mods are being included in the stock game while the game engine is being upgraded to its latest version.
>The next major update (1.1) is supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better.
By the very act of pretending any of this has happened, not only have we given ammunition against ourselves in the anti-squad discussion, but we've not mentioned the fact that they've claimed numerous times prior to do these very same things, and accomplished none of them.
These things undermine our stance (that KSP is a disaster of a game,) and make us seem less crazy, and more bipolar than anything else.
Oh good lord would you look at the catalog?
The other thread has been archived!
How is that possible? It had such a great OP
6pm EST
TODAYBadie will be there, she will do everything she can to give you what you want...
>>125699104
1.0 being a marketing term
Squad using feminism as a marketing tool
Squad's Tax Evasion
KSP being a multi-million earning IP
Their abusive community managment
Their usage of threats against people that disagree with them
Their employment of strongmen to that end
Their near-constant lying
Their technical incompetence
ect
ect
ect
>>125699665
all those bumps were actually saged :^)
BURN SQUADCAST
>>125699548
>By the very act of pretending any of this has happened
But popular mods have literally been added to the game and they look like they are still going that way.
And about 1.1 there is a nice "supposedly" to make it clear none of that is confirmed.
So what the fuck are you on about?
>>125699548
>This can be easily misconstrued as saying that the game *is* in early access. That isn't the case. This is a full release. Treat it as such - that isn't a clever joke, it's adding needless confusion.
The "every product still in beta" comment comes after the "should be considered still in early access" comment. Anyone who is capable of reading can put the two together, but seeing as there are people such as yourself who are incapable of such daring feats of comprehension it could certainly be reworded to be more clear. Perhaps mentioning that 1.0 was only really leapt to so the game could be sold on GoG could be mentioned, but there is no hard proof of that so such a claim is immediately suspect.
>>125700018I know for a fact they all weren't :^)
>>125699965
You're just jealous that they made tons of money and you didn't
>>125700238
The bottom two definitely weren't
I made them
>>125700351
FUCK OFF
it's fraud, they stole tons of money meant for development through false advertising and a shady financial shell game.
what's more important is that we BURN SQUADCAST
>>125699965
>1.0 being a marketing term
Literally said at the beginning of the OP
>Squad using feminism as a marketing tool
Nobody cares, especially someone who knows nothing of the game and wants to see if it is fun to play
>Squad's Tax Evasion
Same as above
>KSP being a multi-million earning IP
Same as above. If anything, it make people think the game is good.
>Their abusive community managment
Same as above, even if it is implied in the OP already
>Their usage of threats against people that disagree with them
This needs proof, especially if you want to include such claims in the OP. Not even the old OP had this shit.
>Their employment of strongmen to that end
Who cares
>Their near-constant lying
Already said in the OP
>Their technical incompetence
Already said in the OP
>ect
>ect
>ect
Dude, it's an OP, it has to stay within 2000characters, you can't squeeze every stupid detail. The OP we have now is fine and is enough for someone to have doubts about the game and ask here for details.
It's you who have to tell all those stories to newcomers, not the OP.
The OP has to say "this game has problems, ask for details" and the current one goes a long way in doing that.
The other OP proposed does a shittier job than the old OP at listing all the things you mentioned, so calm your tits and write your own OP for us to see and rate
>>125700643
They played the game right and are now rich. You shitpost on an image board and can do nothing else with your pitiful existence.
All you will ever be is mad and jealous.
>>125700643
As long as you can't prove all that financial bullshit, your claims are useless and will never be included in this general's OP.
Get over it
>>125701194
stop trolling man please. it'll just lead to more obnoxious squad drama, which has been played out for like 2 years
This is what happens when you don't fuck cats, /kspg/
>>125701203
Around the merry-go-round we go
https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/330vsi/squad_removes_steam_spy_data_from_public_view
BU
RN
SQ
UA
DC
AS
T1.5 hrs
>>125701298
But he's right you know.
As much as you don't like it, they played their PR cards right and nailed pretty much every review in existence.
They sold a lot, a lot of people enjoy their game and, especially, most people don't give two shits about development or business tactics as long as they are playing something that they think is fun.
Did I care if, say, DICE used their money to buy gold plated lamborghinis? Not in the slightest because I still had BF3 to play, which was a fun game despite all its problems.
Did I care if Rockstar routed their money through offshore banks and noname accounts? Absolutely not, but I had a blast with GTA4, and holy shit the game was far from perfect.
I can go on with every good game I ever played, but hopefully you got the point.
>>125701530
This proves nothing, what's more, they made a forum post or something explaining why they did that and that's the only proof you will ever have.
You can't prove why they did that, you don't have access to their money transfers or their sales report so you are just screaming like a little bitch about something you have literally zero arguments against.
You may say that looks shady, sure,but you can't prove anything
>>125702520
>battlefield m16a3 edition
>fun
>>125702520
you're either trying too hard or downright autistic if you think being right is what matters. man is annoying, and you're annoying by extension for prodding him over and over. stop.
>>125702991
>not using superior slav weaponry like the AEK-something
Also, 90% of my games were spent piloting helis with my gunner buddy so I'm not really into OP rifles
>>125703836
>superior to the m16 in bf3
>anything
It was the best gun in the game senpai
>>125704089
>not playing Codename Eagle
>being this pleb
Without Max and KSP, where would you be today?
Yuu wouldn't get satch, snek, or cat fucker. You wouldn't have learned that early access is a ripoff. You wouldn't have spent all this time shitposting with your friends.
You may not realize it, but Squad and max gave you a great experience.
>>125704708
>purgatory
>great experience
>>125704708
We would have still been here even without Max
Satch and I were here before Max, and snekfag came here due to a screenshot I posted
Maxmaps really has added nothing
>>125704779
If you didn't like it, you wouldn't still be here.
>>125705037
Why are you responding to attention whore posts?
>>125705037
That's why I said max AND KSP
Years of shitposting have rotted your brain.
>>125705115
why do we even have an attention whore here anyway, where did it come from?
>>125705263
That's like saying "He was killed by cancer and tennis elbow."
You gotta admit, Max is a cool guy for conning people and making millions.
>>125705263
You said that we wouldn't have gotten Satch, Snek, or me if it weren't for Max and KSP
This is wrong, because Max had nothing to do with our introductions to this general
>>125705404
Well we have the person who can't let go of the past and desperately tries to get everyone else to stay there with him, I'm sure there are others as well that we've always had, like the people posting bait basically every thread for months now.
>>125705572
i'd do the same thing if i were in his position but he's still a fat spic that needs to be on the other side of a wall
>>125705610
How soon before your cat dies?
So who's excited to ignore jobless mexicans and BURN SQUADCAST?
>>125705927
Stop that
white pride worldwide
>>125706749
Your cat is going to die and it's your fault.
ITT: MAN is desperate for attention but nobody gives a shit
>>125706874
It's not my fault that cat lifespans are so short and that he won't be able to live to see the day that medical technology allows pets to become immortal
>>125706965
race war now t͏bh
Wall Trump
Build 2016
>>125707217
>I posted it again!
>>125706749
I hope it's soon
>>125706965
I think you're drastically overestimating the amount of posts here that are mine. But that's fine, it's good to know I have a... commanding... personality.
20 min to squadcast
>>125707446
>not supporting trump
>>125707997
>supporting any U.S. candidate
>proudly endorsing a broken system
>dr turkey will never sign off for the last time while choking down tears because he fucked up so badly
>>125707525
But why?
What did my cat ever do wrong?
>>125708532
it took spotlight time away from our unemployed friend
Back from the store
Even: ksp
Odd: jc3
>>125708743
Which one, snekfag or Max?
Why did you stop using KAS/KIS, anon?
turk is visible
we might get to see badie
>>125709460
I wanted to use it for on-site assembly for a Jool colony, but then I found out that Hooligan Labs a shit and not consistent at all in how much lift it gives
Now, once again, I have no reason to bother with any mods besides KER and RCS build aid and Editor Extensions and the like
>>125709629
we can see badie's screen
is that /kspg/?
>>125707904
Sometimes I wonder if I'm in some kind of candid camera show or a social experiment, because you can't be this stupid and obnoxious and act like you are perfectly normal.
>>125710584
he's schizophrenic or something, he confirmed that
>>125711175
and you're just a manifestation of catfucker's fragmented moral conscience
>>125711507
that's true, i'm his inner trump supporter
Can someone explain to a yuropoor what's the deal with trump? I never really cared, I know he's of the racist type that looks more like a comic relief than anything, but what is his actual Program? What outrageous things did he do or say since he started running for presidency?
Just give me a rundown of the political situation with the various candidates
Also Aren't they actually running for presidency no, are they? How does it work? You vote for who gets in charge of the party and all the winners run for president?
>>125712729
Basically, prior to the general election, which actually elects the President, parties usually hold primary elections to determine which of their candidates they'll nominate for President
The deal with Trump, as far as I know, is that the things he says are somewhat outlandish and non-politically correct, but he's scoring miles ahead of everyone else on the polls and is more likely to win the presidency than any other Republican candidates, even though the higher-up Republican party members themselves don't like him
>>125712729
Tbh the most ridiculous thing trump has said and somehow still remained relevant was putting all Muslims in a database(a violation of the Constitution) and forbidding any from visiting the country.
>>125715002
>implying this isn't necessary to ensure the safety of Americans
Hello comrade. Sure is a nice day to be communist.
odds play KSP
evens tie a rock to my ankle and throw myself into a pool
>>125717290
Finally free.
>>125717895
Like the Republicans have any other choice
Either they nominate Trump and maybe win the election, or they don't win at all
Not that the Democrats winning bothers you anyway, given that you're an SJW and all
>>125717895
don't be so pessimistic
Trump will fade away into nothing within 4 months
Does anyone want to collaborate on a writeup?This fundamentally changed my opinion of Squad.
>>125719864
Hell I've done a bunch of "writeups" on all sorts of shit that's wrong with the game. If you poke through the fireden archive you can probably find a few of them. I had a post-Factorio-devblog rant about how shitty career is some people might remember.
>>125719864
who is this
and somebody post the list of things wrong with the game
>>125720212
WAIT
ARE YOU "RE-WORKED TIERS" ANON?
>>125720272
I don't know what that is.
>>125720339
post a pastebin. one anon reworked career into a government and "for-profit" configuration that I loved, haven't been able to find it
>>125719864
What's going on in that pic? And excuse my non native English, but what is a writeup?
>>125720491
That wasn't me, I'd go poke through fireden but I'm busy right this moment. I'll look later.
>>125719864
>Update
Thank you for censoring *that* part, I'd hate to have to be less open about things in future talks. And actually I was about to tell you that I'd hope to see you in the general from time to time,. as I read it every other day.
To everybody else, have a nice evening. I'll be back here for a small talk soon enough.
Right now I can't prove my identity ontwitter because I got a certain star wars themed movie to got to, but lets just say that within the blacked out parts of the chat carrots were mentioned.
Criticism breeds strength wi'll confirm it, I'm sure.
Cheers,
Dr. Turkey
>>125720628
A writeup is three paragraphs or ten pages of text.
Three paragraphs painting broad strokes, ten pages outlining every detail, it is whatever we want it to be.
I'm thinking a few paragraphs starting with small scope and moving outwards to talk about some of the more fundamental issues / missed connections.
Maybe even a paragraph about KSP's lasting future, it's legacy, if you will.
I'm happy to do it alone, but I wanted to offer to share it with you guys because I know for a fact you are smarter and more knowledgable about many aspects of the game.
>>125721080
oh boy
We're in for a wild ride /kspg/
>>125721080
Confirming. Everything that has been posted is conjecture until proof is tweeted, but surely anons can see the truth within these posts, and twitter will seal the deal.
Please always use extreme skepticism when assuming someone is posting here without confirming their identity somehow.
>>125721206
>>125721080
BUCKLE UP MOTHERFUCKERS
I guess I'll make one of these. Hopefully I'll never have to use it again.
>>125721817
of course I would. And it's an incognito window so I can't even delete it.
>>125720847
Well I found my career mode rant.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/117905968/#118023516
Is Dr Turkey a Mexican?
>>125722018
Interesting, but more a laundry list of issues. I might boil it down and use it as material for a first paragraph discussing current game limitations.
I also see value in bringing up the larger game implications, but I'd rather not harp on how fucked up the current iteration is, and think more about what care be torn down realistically and how to use existing assets to rebuild it.Then again, they just spent the past 8 mos doing that, then left everything the same.
>>125722515
Remember that it doesn't matter how detailed or well thought out your arguments for whatever might be, if they're not feasible they won't ever be considered. Completely tearing the game down and rebuilding from scratch simply won't happen.
Picking at certain subsystems and rebuilding those individual elements is much more feasible, as is rebalancing existing systems (since that's "just" changing some numbers in configs to a new schema).
>>125723134
Fair enough, I just shat out a massive rant about how to basically do what you're saying isn't feasible. But you guys are gonna hate it. Debating whether or not to post it
>>125723984
post it anyway, this is 4chan, who gives a shit
Oh good the stock ion plume perfectly fits my own one. This look good or does the smaller one in http://i.imgur.com/H9VuyF4.jpg fit better for an engine that's lower thrust? The Rapier on the bottom will be released when I've tweaked the heat glow a bit and after I'm done updating RLA.
>>125723984
Post it anyway.
>>125724106
I'm going to step outside for a cigarette first. It probably won't even fit into one post.It burns all that was and from the ashes forms something new.
>>125724220
just make a pastebin
>>125724271
http://pastebin.com/ykscjtKq
What I’ve never understood about ksp is why the devs act like it is a forbidden pleasure — why the secrecy and sudden changes of tack? Why not release every build as a beta and collect feedback for a week before releasing the final version? (they do do this, but they won’t admit it) There’s no reason the people literally willing to work for free can’t collaborate enough to share knowledge with the people writing the base game code. Give Harv a break, take him off code duty, just let the whole thing breathe!
>>125725168
literally all of those except maybe the last one are completely retarded
i get why you didnt want to post it
thanks for doing it anyway, though, even if everyone is gonna shit on it
>>125726154
I'm thinking about ksp as an ongoing business. I understand why anything besides "cloning orbiter" is considered haram and I admit I don't entirely believe it myself, but with MP on the way and FT "racing" to get their ports done, it's time to strike out for a new horizon.
Open it all up. Publish the source code. Its value only decays if it is locked away. What do you think the right path forward is?
>>125726386
They are not going to release the source code because the game runs on an engine that isn't theirs to give out the source code of.
>>125726469
So basically unity cucked all of us? Ok I didn't realize that. Where can I read up on it?
>>125726386
Put Harv back in charge; stop putting making money ahead of making a good game
That would honestly solve most of the problems and take us back to pre-0.18 Squad.
please merciful lord stop discussing ksp and squad, the game hasn't been relevant in 2 fucking years.
I am Mexican and i find this interesting
Harvester wouldn't have achieved his dream about creating a game about sending little green men to space if he haven't moved to Mexico and abandoned shitty Brazil.
Say whatever you want about Squad, but they invested money on this game and KSP is quite successful.
And no, i am not Max.
>>125726548
https://unity3d.com/unity/faq
>How can I license or use Unity's source code?
>We license Unity source code on a per-case and per-title basis via special arrangements made by our business development team. As this can be quite expensive, we do not generally license source code to smaller operations, educational institutions, nor to companies in countries which do not have adequate legal intellectual property protection.
>>125726715
>I am Mexican
didn't you fuck off 6 months ago? please resume fucking off dumb spic
>>125726715
Only Max would claim to not be Max without being called out on it.
>>125726838
>>125726845
No, i am Mexican and i don't know Max.
I like KSP a lot but i am aware that the game has a lot of flaws.
>>125726939
this thread is whites only besides our token black man. go away.
>>125726574
>put harv back in charge
anon he obviously doesn't want to be in charge
>stop putting making money ahead
the problem is the are driving toward a cliff and are going to be burning their saved money if they aren't already. Creating a cheaper-entry renewable revenue stream would solve the "website hits falling off a cliff after 1.0" problem.
>>125726580
I'm sure we will resume our regularly scheduled shitposting activities soon enough.
>>125727058
wow rude
>>125727082
I mean in charge of the direction of the development, not in charge like Adrian the slavedriver
>>125727058
>our token black man
You don't mean the guy who posts Kendrick Lamar videos, right?
>>125727263
no i mean the whiteboi that pretends to be black here sometimes
>>125727082
>Creating a cheaper-entry renewable revenue stream would solve the "website hits falling off a cliff after 1.0" problem.
The problem is that KSP is an explosion-simulator game for the vast majority of players. The average person isn't going to talk about that to their friends, so the games sales only spike like that due to marketing. 1.0 in particular they had PewDiePie play it and some extra exposure on popular websites and shit.
>>125727326
Good because I post the Kendrick Lamar videos and I'm as white as freshly fallen snow.
>>125727345
Yeah, and that marketing had no sticking power whatsoever. On the other hand "hey, this is what a hohman transfer is, nerd." has a pretty lasting effect [citation needed].
It's not about blowing stuff up. It's about picking each other up by our boosters and struts and teaching one another how fucking scary space is. That's ksp's lasting power.
>>125727732
And no one gives a shit about the rest of the game because the average person doesn't give a shit about learning something slightly difficult, and KSP obscures what there is to learn from it behind godawful tutorials, a shit UI and really shit first-time-player experience (see >>125722018). So people buy it, have some fun exploding things before giving up learning anything and probably 90% of the time dropping it forever.
I'm hoping this discussion can be broken down by someone into something useful for Dr Turkey to go through, because holy shit the game has some big issues. Luckily things like KSPedia in 1.1 will help with some of it.
What videogames do Mexicans play anyway?
>>125728013
MP is confounding me. I don't understand how it will be implemented. The final product is totally different depending on how it is implemented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsOoIm9fWM
>>125728916
What's confusing to you? Just look up how either of the two MP mods work.
It'll just be a gimmick to get people to think they're having more fun with the game than they are, since all recreational things are more fun with others.
>>125729159
yeah, and I'm saying don't just pile it on like another game mode, that's just adding a whole new paradigm to QA every month (now that they are on scrum)
I've used DMP, I found it relatively enjoyable aside from the lack of collisions. I never did see one with mod support. I imagine that will require a new way of loading assets mid game, which from what I gather is impossible now.
Who will respond to abuse complaints? How will they be enforced? These are the questions that confuse me.
>>125729434
>Who will respond to abuse complaints? How will they be enforced?
Server owners, like every single other player-server-run game in existence. You think Squad would have any responsibility over Billy having his space station blown up by a troll?
this is a comfy mouse so far. if you're looking to waste money you should waste your money on this mouse.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QIH1GD4
>>125729682
great. that's what I thought.
all of a sudden the full KSP community is given free reign to create servers, what's that gonna look like?
XbOx3^0N0SC0PE/\FFA
The Peaceful Explorers Club
TRUMP 2016
Only Pony Mods
Only Pony Mods 2 {Nudity and Kerb2Pony reskin Required, all rp must be reciprocated}
>>125730249
Pretty much like any other game?
>>125730249
[motd]
>you will never kidnap satch and lock her in your basement
>you will never sexually break her over the course of months
>you will never have a qt submissive slav pet
[/motd]
Is the writeup anon still here?
>>125730361desu id rather the KSC just be a giant MMO lobby and they concentrate on one product
2 servers: "sandbox" and "career"G-goodnight, /kspg/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3015398/software/the-10-best-pc-games-of-2015.html#slide3
>>125730704
>games journalism
>>125730523
I am for the moment, what's up?
>>125730704
>Brad: Unlike Hayden, I only picked up Kerbal after it exited Early Access. And while I’ve been just as enthralled as he has, the game’s found an even bigger fan in my household: my preteen daughter, who has been soaking in complex physics theories and sifting through Wikipedia pages in her quest to conquer the cosmos. I, on the other hand, love making ridiculous Frankensteinian creations loaded with rockets and watching them explode. Science!
>>125707217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
>>125730802
I was elaborating a bit on a mini rant I made in the last thread about career mode, would you be interested? It's like 3 posts long, but it may be useful for when you write your thing.
>>125730875
This man is clearly a hack. Everyone knows that >girls can't play ksp
>>125730875
>>125731076
some percentage of your money went to making that blurb happen.
>>125731537
Some less than a thousandth of a penny. Probably less than a ten-thousandth.
I miss max, he was such a hard worker for squad.
What did he mean by this?
>>125731957
>have problems steering
>replace steering fluid
>no longer have problems steering
Wow, I wish you were my mechanic
>>125731957
You have to bleed the whole system, not just empty the reservoir tank.
Literally remove one of the hoses from the tank and have it drip down into something, the lower you open a hose, the better. Start the engine a few seconds so the pump can empty itself and you can bleed that too.
Once nothing comes out anymore, close everything, fill with new fluid, start the engine and do a lot of turns with the wheel until the pump stops making horrible sounds.
Check back after some days and miles, pull out some of the fluid with the syringe and see if it still looks new. If it doesn't, do the bleed again.
>>125732060
That faggot Jontron did a video about Star Wars games, and had Arin from Game Grumps show up for their finale video, which basically ended with a "power of friendship" bullshit thing.
>>125732060
>being this obsessed by someone who has nothing to do with the game anymore
>>125731029
post a pastebin
http://pastebin.com
>>125732892
Don't give him attention.
>>125733024
Ok, everything is still formatted for 4chan posts, so disregard the dividers and the greentext attempt. I wasn't planning on using pastebin.
http://pastebin.com/d0DwRVeq
Hope this helps
Anons, look, I'm ignoring it!!!
Shit, this feels great. I had no idea!
I should try ignoring it all the time.
I just realized that MAN is an acronym for MaxmapsAddsNothing
God, I used to be so fucking confused
>>125733218
What I.meant was that you should finish the cleaning job or the problem will come up again sooner or later, and it will be worse. Power steering pumps will happily cavitate on the slightest shit and are quite delicate, you don't want that to shit itself all of a sudden while driving.
Do it once so you don't have to do it again, you are now just contaminating what you put in the tank with the rest of the system that still has dirty fluid (and the steering rack has a lot of fluid that you didn't drain).
When it comes to steering, brakes and tires you better not underestimate the problems.
>>125733502
Yes that individual is dead now.
>>125733409
Outstanding job m8, I'm so proud of you
>>125733865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lgRly_ff8U
It's almost like you want janny to nuke the thread
>>125733409
ignoring what?
>>125733379
The idea that you have to put X craft in Y orbit to be able to go past Z altitude is fucking stupid and makes zero sense.
The idea of having to send X craft (with science instruments) to Y orbit around Z body to see any info on the body makes more sense. Basically, a discovery system where you don't know shit about your target until you actually fucking go there, rather than the existing system of going to the tracking station, navigating to the planet and seeing everything on the surface in okay detail, and having all the info (like gravity constant etc.) visible to a really high accuracy.
>>125733964
Nothing, keep reading, nothing to see there.
There is a reason he is ignoring something.
Trust me, you are not losing anything by not knowing what he is ignoring.
>>125733961
i want janny to either go away or lose its mind. history has shown that /kspg/ cannot simply be nuked.
>>125733865
What is this Buddhist symbol?
It's a little tilted t b h f a m
>>125719531
>>125734085
What reason?
What something?
Why is he is ignoring?
You're just making more questions to ask senpai.
