Mimic edition.
Hollowed: >>125459714
>DARK SOULS 3
>PSX 2015 Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM [Embed] [Embed]
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0 [Embed] [Embed]
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g [Embed] [Embed]
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRJ5u-L8qw [Embed] [Embed]
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1
>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg
>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential Mods
DSFix: http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/19/?
PVP Watchdog: http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/849/?
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
first for worst boss in the history of gaming.
What if he's back in DaS3?
>>125569639
>almost 2016
>playing souls games for pvp
literally why
oh yes, because dark souls 2 have horrible pve.
>>125569749
>Everything is a mimic
>Nothing can be trusted
>Have to whack every chest, ladder, door, wall in the game.
third for patch removing 4skins from DaS1 when?
>MFW he's a Lord of Cinder
>>125570071
>there are even bonfire mimics
>you can break any potential object that can become mimics by hitting it a few times, like wooden chests in ds2
>break ladder accidentally, better delete your save file kiddo
>>125570071
just like in dark souls 2
>>125569684
> but if you go out of your way to make everything look dumb
But I didn't. I went out of my way to make my character as pretty as possible.
> everything looking dumb is 100% on you.
So it's not the developer's fault for being unable to make a game with physics that properly adjusts weapon placement to account for the character body options that the game provides? Okay.
>>125570071
>Everything is a mimic
>>125570071
>enemies are doors
http://strawpoll.me/6273491
http://strawpoll.me/6273491
http://strawpoll.me/6273491
http://strawpoll.me/6273491
http://strawpoll.me/6273491
>>125570228
>>125570071
>fogwall mimic
>>125570278
>The tits are lies...and mimics.
>>125570060
>playing souls games
stop having fun guys
>>125570071
>see the token souls game waifu
>fuck finally i can level up my char
>the waifu is actually a mimic
>every stat point you invest actually goes to her, making her stronger
>after a certain point she just says that she's terribly sorry and becomes hostile afterwards
>>125570278
>not spoilered
>>125570504
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>125570643
>not spoilered
But it was.
>>125570643
The fuck you on about
>>125570228
You went out of your way to make a character size that does not fit the weapon you are using and are now asking the devs to stop other players from being able to even use weapons because of your autism.
I don't even know if your baiting at this point or actually this retarded whatever the case this is the last free (you) I'm handing out, cherish it since apparently acknowledgment of your existence from random people on the internet means so much to you.
>>125570643
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWorst part? Vorefags would be okay with that.
>>125569969
Who the fuck cares? DS2 memes have no staying power, get over it.
>>125570691
>>125570719
im a dumbass, i forgot i had disabled spoilers to be able to see filenames. anyway for the filename to appear when you click a spoilered image?
>get about 7 hours in
>sudden urge to play a different build
Every fucking time
>>125570060
nice meme
>>125570903
Mouseover the "spoiler image" filename link.
>>125570746
>are now asking the devs to stop other players from being able to even use weapons because of your autism.
Literally when did I ever say this? Stop inventing arguments in your head and putting words into other people's mouths.
I want the devs to fix clipping and weapon shouldering physics issues.
If anyone wants to remove options, it's that anon who keeps talking about the devs "intending" you to play this and not that and all that shit coming from his/her mouth.
>>125570947
Better than my problem.
Want to breathe fresh air into the game and try a build I've never attempted.
Always convert to MLGS build, or a typical faith build with a weapon min. requirements.
>>125570947
I do this in DaS1 way too much. I made a Giantdad, then a str build, then a dex build, then a quality build, etc. I have like 200 hours in the game now and I still don't even have half the achievements either.
>>125571043
When I first started playing I could never stop eventually adjusting my character into using the Black Knight Halberd. That thing is my weaponfu and weaning myself off of it was the hardest thing I had to do.Now I'm hooked on the Zwei.
>>125570857
At least it didn't spawn more horrible shit like PRAISE LE SUN and WHAT ARE U A CASUL.
>>125571015
excelsior
>>125570183
Well, you COULD play DS2 like this, except it would require insane amounts of projection and some expectations, which anyone that picked up the series for the first time with that game wouldn't have.
>>125571323
That's true, though the game ran with both of those memes like crazy. I guess it's a shitty place to be, but it could definitely be worse.
i actually really like 4 kings
So how come everyone hates them here? Im a newfag to this general.
>>125572632
It's just one REALLY dedicated autist spamming his memes over and over. Report his obvious shitposts when you see them and do not reply to them.
I don't mind the 4 kings but it's one part of the game where I have to say I prefer the area leading up to it instead of the boss itself.
>>125572632
considering suicide might be a great idea for you.
>>125572632
It's just one guy who is incredibly butthurt that he can't beat them.
Is the weapon changing mod any fun to play with? Also when should I turn it on (after I get my first weapon, right as I start, or firelink)?
>Miyazaki on board
>DaS3 will have another meek level up waifu
>DaS3 will have another superhuman old man who suffers a really shitty situation
>observe Desert Sorceress
>uses her spell every 8 seconds or so
>wait until she uses it
>immediately charge at her
>slightly moves her hand and shotguns me with some spell, oneshotting me from full health
Fucking hate these cunts. How do I approach them without having to use the bow everytime?
>>125572871
Yeah, if you disable shields. Seriously, 50% of the time you'll get a +2 fire cracked shield, +1 bonewheel shield, +4 magic small leather shield.
>>125572871
You can turn on weaponswap right as you start in the Asylum, and adjust its intervals too.
I just did my own 5-second-Weaponswap, Aggression mod, Perma-Gravelorded run and it was fun as fuck.
>>125573007
But the bonewheel shield is GOAT
>>125572958
Roll through their spells...BUT don't roll towards them, roll AROUND them.
>>125572958
Bait them into lingering flame and roll through it.
>>125573135
Not at +1 normal. If it's not +5 lightning or +10 fire, it's not doing shit.
>>125572902
But anon, both Miyazaki and Tanimura are on board.
Why do we still not have spec requirements/estimations even though we already have the release date?
>>125573307
since when does tanimura have anything to do with the story?
>>125572902
DaS1 didn't have a meek level up waifu though
In the Memory of the Old Iron King, where do you lay your signs to
>Get summoned for co-op?
>Summon people for co-op?
Also, is there really a time limit in this area?
>>125573007
>>125573023
What should my stat spread be? I feel like I will be useless for at least an hour, then I will have enough stats to at least equip 1/2 of the weapons in the game.
>>125573363
Check the steam store page, anon...
>>125573503
It's best to just place your signs in the room you spawn in. And no, it's the only memory area in the game with no time limit despite it saying so.
>>125573585
You'll automatically get swapped back to one-handed grip every time your weapon swaps, so try something like 20 dex and 30 str to wield most weapons one handed.
>>125573454
Anastasia was originally seen sitting at Firelink around the bonfire. She was likely supposed to be.
Probably just decided it would be annoying to have to warp back every time to level.
Emerald should've followed you to each safe bonfire.
Why is dodging infinitely easier than blocking?
>>125573780
I thought Priscilla was originally something like that before being stuck in a painting
>Complete Siegmeyer's storyline for the first time
Damn. Easily the saddest in DaS1. Marginally more heart breaking than Solaire in my opinion.
Also just noticed this fucking thing in Ash Lake was a skull and not a chunk of Arch Tree for the first time. Whose fucking skull is this?
>>125573594
>The entire tower will collapse if you don't kill Fume Knight withint 72 hours of starting the DLC, thus locking you out of the area forever.
If only that was true. The tears would've been delicious.
>>125573863
Nobody knows, it's a unique thing only found in Ash Lake. I'm betting it was an unused art asset they had lying around and just said "fuck it, throw it in".
The same skull shows up in Dark Souls 2 as well, it's much smaller but it appears next to the Rat King in the Grave of Saints in a pile of generic bones.
>>125573850
Yeah, it was going to be Priscilla. Anastacia was probably their second attempt at doing that until they decided to axe the waifu thing altogether.
>>125569941
I'm starting to like this meme.
>>125573868
>72 hours
that's beyond stupid. No more than 10.
>>125573594
Oh I already killed Fume Knight by jumping down from the first bonfire, one-shotting him with a plunging attack.
>>125573707
Thanks for the info. I was wondering about the timer so I tried dashing through. Got a train of katana knights. Pretty funny. I guess I'll do some jolly cooperation or just take my time.
>>125574206
Even that's too long. The DLC should be unbeatable for people who can't use all of the fall control magic & gear and drop straight to the bottom of the tower.
I've never brought a Souls game on release or pre-ordered one before so I don't really know how much they tend to be right off the bat.
Does anyone have any idea how much Dark Souls 3 will be on release? Is it worth preordering it from Game for £40 or should I just wait until April?
>i like to try ds2 magic
>the stats are actually not shit this time so it's basically impossible to have decent int+faith without getting shit damage on melee which i hate
>CE spices in but only play offline for fairness
What are the chances of getting a DeS 2 without any fuckups?
>>125574776
About as likely as Sony accepting that they need more money and releasing PC ports for DeS and BB.
>>125574776
Just look at dark souls iidont let yui touch it.
>>125574870
Tanimura did great work on DaS2 though. The DLCs and the entirety of Scholar of the First Sin's changes/additions were all him. The fuckups were mainly the other director, Shibuya's, fault.
I'm going to be disappointed if the plot of DaS3 turns out to be "eldritch lovecraftian oldgods from beyond the stars" like in DeS and Bloodborne. All of Miyazaki's games end up like that it seems. The rumors of extra-dimensional shit in DaS3 makes it seem like that will be the explanation for the the series. Again.
>>125574776
It's not happening and there's no reason for it to happen.
How would it be mechanically different from Dark Souls 3?
Demon's Souls doesn't need a sequel, the series has left it far behind.
>>125573863
It's a larger version of the breakable ones in ToTG that serve as part of the environment. Presumably the skull of a very large giant.
>>125575275
Pretty sure the Ash Lake skull is unique. The ones in ToTG are similar, sure, but they use different models.
What are the equip load caps for DaS2 rolling? While 69.9% is not terrible, it's definitely not the same as 20%.
>Get invaded going through anal rodeo in NG+
>already balls deep in a yolo run through the bat demons and archers
>get to the fog wall before the bonfire
>doesnt send the phantom home
>wait like 3 minutes
>doesnt follow me into the castle
>fuck it, run to Biggie and Smalls
>actually beat them first attempt
Shit was crazy. hands were shakin'. But im still swinging.
Sorry to run like a bitch, guy, but I don't wanna be demonbait.end of blog
>>125575321
Speaking of Ash Lake, how did a chunk of surface land from the Age of Ancients end up as the deepest area underground in Lordran?
>>125575746
What do you mean?
>>125574971
>we want the monster hunter audience
>oh wait, nevermind, lets just make all the bosses into bulky, armed humanoids like my OC monhun character
His influence was pretty terrible. Like he clearly didn't understand what made souls games good or why they were so acclaimed and more popular both overseas and domestically than his own pet franchise and just tried to force everything through his dragon quest-style japanese high fantasy RPG lens.
>>125575746
The world of DaS1 in the Age of Fire is built upon the canopy of Arch Trees sprouting from Ash Lake. The Lords built the world and their kingdoms over top of the previous world.
Supposedly, DaS2 takes place so far in the future that this canopy has collapsed and the world the Lords built fell back onto the Ash Lake World.
>>125575746
ash lake is the base. lordran’s soil rests upon the branches of a tree. you can see a bare branch from the graveyard looking toward the catacombs and you can see the roots of the tree in the firelink chamber. inside is the kiln of the first flame, where fire came to be, the place you go down to from the tree in the intro cinematic.
>>125575746
Na, I think the Age of Ancients happened entirely underground. The archtrees hold up the world.
I think the reason the Lords waged war against the dragons is because humans originate even deeper underground (I think the Kiln of the First Flame is the lowest (geographical) point in the entire game) and wanted to make their way to the surface. The grey world of the dragons was in the way though.
Presumably Ash Lake is all flooded now because as time passed more water trickled down from the surface world and flooded the world of the dragons.
>>125575884
I'm really sick of this "dudes in armor, gaem is so bad!" meme. Yet another example of hypocritical criticism pertaining to DaS2 in areas that were exactly the same in DaS1.
Tanimura's influence was fucking excellent and he single-handedly salvaged DaS2 from a 2/10 rushed piece of shit into a 7/10 worthy entry of the Souls series. This is fact.
>>125575884
Yeah, he should've instead designed quality non-humanoid Souls bosses like...
>>125576307
I was complaining about Shibuya you dumb nigger.
>>125574776
What would the story for DeS2 even be? It would just be the same
>dude history repeating lmao
stuff we got with Dark Souls. Not that cycles are inherently bad but honestly, it would just trivialise the DeS world.
>>125576134
>>125576145
>>125576148
Makes sense. That would explain a lot of things if DaS2 is in the same location as Lordran, devs that scrapped the original idea for DaS2 half-way saying otherwise be damned.
>>125575884
>we want the monster hunter audience
The Shibuya that worked on Dark Souls 2 is not the same Shibuya from Monster Hunter. In Japanese characters, their names are spelled differently.
Just like how there are tons of people named Robert Johnson that aren't all the same people.
>>125576635
drangleic isn’t lordran
Google says March 24, Steam says April 12. Is PC getting cucked again or is that just Jap vs NA?
>>125576134
>Supposedly, DaS2 takes place so far in the future that this canopy has collapsed and the world the Lords built fell back onto the Ash Lake World.
I haven't heard this theory before. I mean, I've always believed that Drangleic is in the same place as Lordran but I haven't been able to give a good explanation for why the landscape is so different other than "it's a fantasy world and literally thousand and thousands of years have passed." This is good.
>>125576836
stay delusional my friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65_NQsh3Cng Let's say goodbye to this terrible game
>>125576871
Pretty sure that's just Jap vs NA.
>>125576940
I think the reason why that theory exists is because Things Betwixt is full of archtree-like objects that are shattered and broken.
>>125573863
what is sad about his story? you help a fool which gets stuck everywhere on his way till he realises he is a wimp and try to be heroic once and fail horrible again. Is this some low psychologic trick where all the loser are projecting them as siegmeier? Also since the onion armor should be something honorable how this guy gets even one
>>125576871
Nips vs West.
5 favorite Souls series bosses? I'm including Bloodborne because it clearly is a Souls game.
1. Orphan of Kos
2. Manus, Father of the Abyss
3. Great Grey Wolf Sif
4. Father Gascoigne
5. Fume KnightYes, I've played Demon's Souls too, but none of the bosses are top five worthy for my tastes.
>>125576635
Actually, that was just a mistranslation on the part of the interviewer (which was a gaming magazine, big surprise). Tanimura basically said something to the effect of "Dark Souls 2 is a whole new world, don't expect your knowledge of the first game to help you here," which was explicitly to assuage some accusation the interviewer threw out that being a direct sequel would imply recycling world design from the first game. The interviewer then took that and turned it into "Dark Souls 2 is set in an entirely new universe and is not connected at all to the first game."
And, of course, people bought it hook, line and sinker only to be unpleasantly surprised when the game released and was chocked full of connections to the previous game.
>>125576940
>in lordran you can level up by sitting at a bonfire
>in drangleic you can’t
>>125576940
Some things interesting to note about Drangleic's geography is
>It has a coastline, a sea.
>Things Betwixt has large, bottomless arch-trees.
What is the likelihood i'll be able to run DS3 on a laptop with i7, 8gb ram, intel HD 5500?
im gonna have to buy a console arent i
>>125576871
Nips are getting it earlier because From doesn't think the PC version is worth delaying the game in their region.
>>125576787
It actually is the same person. In fact, when it was first announced that he would work on the game, his involvement with monster hunter was used as a promotional line.
>>125577196
If you can run DaS2 on it, you should be fine.
DaS1 is a worse PC port though so it requires more power to run well.
>>125577196
Play on PS4 with me anon!
>>125576836
It wasn't in the original iteration of the game (remember the very first, and only, Shibuya interview with the North Pole / South Pole comment, meant to show that Lordran was the Northern Land of Giants in Drangleic's time) but when the game was reimagined, they added elements that would make it as Lordran as possible (stuff like the boss of the Blue Cathedral, the 4 great beings droppping Lord Souls in NG+, the Lordvessel shards, the whole Manus fragments plotline, were stuff added at the last moment).
>>125577235
>his involvement with monster hunter was used as a promotional line.
Yes...because the journalists who said this immediately thought that they were the same person and didn't bother to check the Japanese characters to see that they were different people.
Someone on /dsg/ pointed this to me back before Dark Souls 2 even came out. I'm on my mobile so I can't be assed to copy and paste Moon language characters (or to even find the sites that contain their names in JP), but they were different.
>>125575737
>biggie and smalls
nice, lol. I cant imagine ever taking them on by myself.
>>125576871
This is the proper way to do things, to be honest.
It ensures that all of the on-release issues like pre-release megamules, region restrictions not working, multiplayer matchmaking not working, game breaking bugs/exploits/imbalances, network stress issues and the like can be testes and found in a contained environment and then fixed on the international release patch.
DaS2's approach with a global simultaneous release caused problems both with the servers being able to handle the volume of traffic and the the sheer number of issues that only emerged on release when millions of players had their hands on the game but desperately needed fixing, such as NPC questlines breaking, phantom criticals and major imbalances like CMW MLGS.
>>125577047
>>125577185
Damn. I'm glad other people in the Souls community are more observant than I am.
I'd much prefer Things Betwixt being a point where you can see the surface world and subterrenean world collapsing into each other, as opposed to a loreless extradimensional limbo you reach by diving into a fucking hole in the ocean.
Was there sweetspot damage in the DaS3 network test?
I was pretty dissapointed that DaS1 didn't have it.
>>125576871
Jap console release is March 24. Jap PC and Western release for all platforms is April 12. Bamco wanted simultaneous release for all platforms, so they delayed them all untill PC version is ready.
>>125576942
>it's just some waifufag's "epic" pve parry montage.
>it's not even barefist parries
Fuck off.
About to fight Aava for the first time. Any tips?
>>125577589
>Things Betwixt
>A small dimensional rift that exists between Drangleic and the outside world,
this seemingly peaceful limbo serves as a gateway between the two realms.
It lies deep within a shadowy cavern and traverses an ancient forest rising from subterranean lake.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/things-betwixt
This just makes it more confusing oh well
>>125577350
DS3 might have a half assed port too, though, we don't know yet. For the time being it seems they aren't going to bother making it 60 fps, though I guess that doesn't really say anything about how optimized it'll end up being.
>>125577802
Errrrrrrr have you checked out the path on the right side past the gate yet?
>>125577646
There were no weapons that could feasible make use of it in the network test. The only 'long handle' type of weapon in the test was the spear, and spears didn't have a sweetspot in DaS2 because fromsoft loved the idea of an extremely fast, long-reach weapon with strong tracking also not having a sweetspot up close when it was already faster than most close-ranged weapons. The spear did not have a sweetspot in DaS3.
Also, sweetspots weren't in Bloodborne and since they're using that engine for DaS3 and Miyazaki apparently dislikes the mechanic, it probably won't be in.
>>125577235
One is 渋谷知広 and the other is 渋谷知洋.
One is a graphic artist who worked at DAG, a studio Capcom contracts for graphical work on Monster Hunter.
The other Tomohiro Shibuya worked on the ACE series at From, and has been there for almost 10 years.
>>125577991
Yeah I have the eye.
>>125577102
1. Gwyn
2. Gehrman
3. Ludwig
4. Manus
5. Tower KnightFuck DS2, I've never been more disappointed in a game
>>125577196
See for yourself. Steam just posted the requirements:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/374320/
They seem to be very similar to SotFS, apart from the game requiring 50 GB of space.
>>125578062
You know you can just look at the game's credit roll and see the full name in plain english right?
>>125578017
What the fuck are you talking about? Spears are ass upclose in DaS2 because of the shaft.
Also I'm pretty sure BB has it as well, but not to such an extent.
>>125572808
Found shitter steve.
>>125578321
Yes, and? The name I find is Tomohiro Shibuya in "plain English". It's a different Tomohiro Shibuya from the one who worked for Capcom for Monster Hunter. The names sound the same but (importantly) the characters in the original Japanese are different, as I've pointed out. Different people. This isn't something that you can see by simply using the "plain English" text. You need to actually read the Japanese characters.
>>125578138
Aava is similar to the other 4-legged beast bosses. Don't lockon, roll past their swipes to their bellies and hack their hind legs.
The difference is that Aava has 3 moves against this tactic
>Raises tail, 360 swipe
>Arches back, magic burst aoe
>Raises paw, summon ice pillars near him.
So watch out for these attacks, leave some stamina for rolling out after chopping him a few times.
>>125575726
I-frames depends on your AGI.
Then stamina regeneration and roll distance scale from 0 to 69.9%
70+ is fatroll
120+ is over cumbered
>>125578321
Kanji matters more because the names are written differently (although they're both pronounced as Tomohiro Shibuya) so they're different people.
>>125578723
I know all of that, I wanted to know more about
>stamina regeneration and roll distance scale from 0 to 69.9%
>>125577102
Not in order
Gwyn
Garl Vinland
Old mofuggin Monk
That giant flying Manta from Shrine of Storms
Old Hero
>>125578263
They look alright. Although I kinda think they just copy-pasted the SotFS ones as placeholder untill the real ones get announced. Aren't system reqs announced a month or so before release ?
>>125578573
Thanks anon. Here goes!
>>125578798
Roll distance is continuuous, stamina recovery might have breakpoints at 40% and 60%, but I'm not sure.
>implying i'm going to post in a mimic thread
>>125579171
>continuous
do you mean linear?
>>125579226
CHOMP CHOMP MOTHERFUCKER
>>125579302
Yeah, no breakpoints under 70%.
I think below 30% makes it impossible to chase BS a roll, but 50% is usually a good trade off.
I really want to get Scholar of the First Sin on my ps4 since I don't really enjoy Bloodborne.
Is the PvP/PvE still alive?
>>125579719
if you don't like bloodborne you won't like das2.
>>125579878
Except I played through the entirety of DaS2 and loved it.
I just can't get in to bloodborne.
>>125579878
How can you know? Inb4 stale memes
>>125579719
>Is the PvE still alive?
how would it not? if the monsters gave up?
>>125579719
Bloodborne is more active than any sign based activity in DS2 atm. Most of the covenants are dead and you can only get consistent pvp with chunks in the iron keep.
Don't know about the arena because I quit playing before trying it out.
>>125579546
It's never actually impossible, it just becomes progressively more lenient the longer your roll. For the most part, stickstabs are only possible when the person makes a bad or stupid roll. How fast you have to be to punish, and what situations you can punish are larger the less distance their roll covers but even a 69% roll can consistently avoid stickystabs so long as you don't make a stupid roll, and even sub10% rolls can be punished for making a stupid one. Most people prefer sub50% because it gives you more leeway and makes you safer against russians, BRs and aussies but it's not absolutely necessary.
It isn't like DaS1, where fatroll can't escape BS chains and midroll can't avoid rollstabs with half of the weapons in the game. Stickystabs mostly just punish players that roll preemptively when there opponent isn't do anything or rely excessively on rolling to move around and reposition. If your character isn't close by and in neutral (eg. not performing any action or locked in any animation) when somebody rolls, you can't stickystab them.
>>125577102
No order:
Gwyn
Kalameet
Maiden Astrea
Burnt Iron King
Sif
I like the more emotional bosses, Kalameet is an exception here. I like that fight just because it's a good Dragon fight, it's a rare thing.
>>125579935
Did you play the dlcs already? The changed enemy placements in scholar are good but they amount to a fairly minor change to the feel a playthrough. If you've played the game to death, scholar won't give you a fresh experience and it's mainly only worthwhile because it bundles the dlcs together for a better deal.
>>125580239
I never played any of the DLC's, thats why I wanted to go through it, but if I wasn't going to be invaded at least a few times it wouldn't be the same experience.
>>125577102
>artorias
>manus
>kalameet
>ivory king
>fume knight
Sir alonne and 4 kings a close 6th and 7th. Haven't played DeS or Bloodborn yet, but will do so eventually.
I've gotten up to Duke Freja in dark souls 2 and realized that I remember maybe 2 boss themes from the whole game.
I've just started dark souls and taurus demon's is already better than anything ive heard in 2.
>>125569749
JESUS HOW HORRIFYING
>>125577102
Orphan
Artorias
Ludwig
Gehrman
False Allant
>>125580531
Honestly didnt care for the taurus demon's them
Gywn and O+S music is memorable as fuck.
>>125580421
I can't speak for the activity on the PS4. I only have the PC version. On the PC version, at least, the DLCs are all invasion and co-op hotspots, though I imagine that the recent BB dlc would have siphoned most of the PS4 souls fans off to that game. If it's any consolation, the DLCs each have a plethora of uniquely obnoxious npc invaders. From took a note from how their players behaved.
Still, if you enjoyed the base game, then scholar will definitely be worthwhile for the dlc alone.
>>125577589
>>125577823
I guess if time is convoluted than so is space.
That or people of the world got tired of shit always stirring up in Lordran/Olaphis/Drangleic and had some mages seal the area off from the rest of the world with some magic tricks in hopes none of the craziness would seep out.
>>125580531
>>125580767
I've noticed that with the music too. Dark Souls 1 had some energizing or creepy boss music for most of the bosses while in 2 it was like the composer was trying to put you to sleep or subtly tell you that he wasn't really into DaS2.
From DaS I remember the Gargoyles theme, Sif, Biggy & Smalls, Gwyn, Seath, and Pinwheel.
In DaS2 there's Nashandra and Sir Alonne.
>>125581351
Sakuraba hasn't been into any game since he went back to working on like 7 OSTs a year. Fortunately the DLC composer Kitamura, who incidentally is the DS3 composer as well, gives significantly more fucks.
>>125581351
That's probably just your preference, guy.
Music fades to the background when you are focusing on not-dying, whereas you hardly notice it at all when you walk in and blow up a boss in seconds. What songs you'll find 'memorable' will vary based mostly on which bosses you struggled with.
For example, I was stuck on the smelter demon for a good hour on my first playthrough, and as a result this is one of my favourite songs in the franchise, right alongside O&S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz1_3az6Hgs
The fact that the music is timed perfectly to hit its climax as he enters his 3rd phase is just perfect.
>>125581930
Thats ruin sentinel tho.
>>125582101
Smelter and ruin sentinels share the same theme.
>>125581351
>or subtly tell you that he wasn't really into DaS2.
Sure you're not projecting your dislike of the game's soundtrack to the composer?
In my ears, all the SoulsBorne games OSTs have about a handful of extremely memorable tracks with all the rest being either okay or just forgettable.
Many, many months ago, I posted a review of the Bloodborne OST on /bbg/. Here's the short gist of it: The songs that I think are top tier are Omen, The Hunter, Darkbeast, Micolash, Ebrietas, Lullaby for Mergo, The First Hunter and Moon Presence. That was in my "top tier." Some are okay tier and the rest are completely shit tier.
The descriptions I used for three songs I considered shit tier (Hail the Nightmare, Soothing Hymn and Celestial Emissary) were all the same: "BORING attempt at an atmospheric shit that is just completely forgettable." That's because I couldn't find anything to say about them. I listened to them 4-5 times to review the album after playing the game through once and was completely dumbfounded by how boring these tracks were.
My views on all the Souls OSTs are similar. A handful of good songs, some mediocre tracks and tons of shit tracks. In the Dark Souls OST, so many of the tracks are so same-sounding and just blend together with those oppressive Gregorian chants, with some exceptions like Gwyn or Moonlight Butterfly.
>>125581930
>The fact that the music is timed perfectly to hit its climax as he enters his 3rd phase
I liked the Ruin Sentinel track too but it didn't actually do this. The only game in the series that did this kind of thing with the music was Bloodborne. Unless you want to count the first 5 seconds of Nashandra's boss fight where it played a song that was otherwise cut from the game.
>>125582308
>music hits climax of track according to phases
More games need to do this. Not just Bloodborne or other non-Souls games like Metal Gear Rising or Monster Hunter.
Why don't more games do this?
DS1 had some really intense music, which worked nicely because the bosses were great, and hard to beat. The problem with intense themes is, if paired with bad bosses, you'll remember that boss mostly by the music, and not by the experience as a whole.
As some anon pointed out a few days ago, music is supposed to enhance the experience, not become it. I love the intense themes in DS1, but they surely wouldn't work very well in DS2.
>>125577102
>Maneaters
>Fume Knight
>O & S
>Smelter
>3rd DLC Boss
Runner Up:
>Tower Knight for the presentation
>>125582753
Takes more effort.
>>125582308
Smelter's 3rd phase is on a timer. If you don't do enough damage to trigger it, it happens automatically around a minute into the fight unless it's delayed because he's trapped in a long animation. If you go into the fight at around the damage output the area is designed for, it takes you about a minute to trigger his 3rd phase anyways. There's a couple themes that were like that, synced up to an approximated pace the fight would take so that they would climax during a phase change.
It's obviously not quite as good as BB's system, because the music only matches one pace to the fight and going in with a strong weapon or a weak one will cause you to lose that sync. I didn't really like how jarring the transition could be sometimes in BB -like sometimes it just cuts the song off abruptly to start the 'climax' song.
What Thrusting sword should I go with?
Estoc has nice reach, and is this hybrid Rapier and normal sword. The strong attack is a slash, which gives them more options.
The rest have really short range. Ricard's Rapier has great stats, but short range, and low durability. Should I go with that?
And Balder Side Sword is CLEARLY a god damn rapier. Why isn't it?
My current setup:
>Richard's Rapier
>Bandit Knife
>black bow of pharis
>wooden shield
>wanderer/thief armor combo
>>125581351
>>125581930
I personally feel like the music direction has improved over the years, but maybe DaS1-tier angry, ominous "OOOH OHHO OH OH" chanting is not really my thing. Felt sorta same-y, save for a handful of really melodic tracks like Moonlight Butterfly's theme or Gwyn's theme.
Some of the DaS2 music tracks were really fucking bland, but those that are good are better than the DaS1 ones in my opinion. Pursuer (it will always remind me of Jaws), Raime, Velstadt, BIK and Alonne all have very cool themes. So overall I'd say that DaS1 is a bit more consistent in quality, but DaS2 has more good tracks.
And by the looks of it DaS3 soundtack's gonna be GOAT, just check out the main menu theme. It's a lot more intense compared to the other main menu themes, which is very fitting for the last game in the series.Reminds me of NIER soundtrack a bit, even.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWae6r7Blw
>>125583076
Estoc
>>125583280
>Morte
>DaS3 will erase your save is you're killed by specific enemies
>>125582125
>Ruin Sentinels
>are golems
>their armour is made of brass
>they share the same theme with the boss from the Iron Keep
WERE THEY THE GIFT FROM THE PRINCE OF VENN TO THE KINGDOM OF ALKEN?
>>125583280
The composer for Dark Souls 3, Yuka Kitamura, co-wrote a lot of the good tracks for Dark Souls 2, including the Sir Alonne track. She did the Ebrietas track for Bloodborne.
>>125583750
There's no real connection aside from it being a lazily reused track, just like how Gwyndolin and Moonlight Butterfly share no connections but have the same exact music track lazily reused. Or how Cleric Beast and Vicar Amelia have the same exact music track in Bloodborne.
>you will never have a bro to trade your items down to other characters
>>125583965
Isn't Vicar Amelia basically a cleric beast?
>>125571323
it did made both things worst.
>>125583789
I like her use of the violin. I'll miss Sakuraba's harpsichord though.
>>125583965
>they're both member of the church
>CLERIC BEAST AND AMELIA ARENT CLERCS
And then Patches' hate of clerics was explained.
>>125583076
Use the BSS if you need to do a lot of damage. The 2HR2 does about as much damage as the halberd 2HR1. Use the Estoc for everything else.
>>125583076
Estoc for something more versatile. You'd want to upgrade to Ricard's when you have high dex since it has B scaling.
Thrusting swords can attack with the shield up. That would make BSS quite OP considering that its stab is nearly the range of a spear.
>>125583280
Some of the music in these games only really work in context of the fights they're in, as well. Like, I wouldn't listen to Raime's theme on my phone or something but in the fight itself, the heavy, regimented, march-like drone of the music and chanting complements the oppressive atmosphere of the fight perfectly. It's a high-tension fight and the music adds to that tension without distracting from it.
I'd say that Taurus Demon is memorable in the same way. The loud, aggressive chanting suits what is really the first proper boss fight of the game and adds to the intended feeling of intimidation from a boss who's brutally, mechanically punishing to new players in melee.
The problem with Taurus Demon's theme is that the leitmotif is extended throughout several of the bosses in the game, but it only really works once because after you beat Taurus, the prospect of facing off against a large badass demon stops being intimidating. In fact, in general the bosses of DaS1 stop being these scary, seemingly insurmountable challenges once you become more comfortable with the controls and combat of the game and it stops being this big mysterious entity out to kill you. Some bosses, like Capra, are still mechanically challenging, even for experienced players, but they don't carry that same sort of intimidation factor that their music seems to be drawing on.
One of the big flaws in DaS1's soundtrack was overusing those motifs along some bosses when the style didn't really work for the atmosphere of that particular boss. DaS2 did a better job of keeping its soundtrack varied, but wasn't always successful in matching the atmosphere of the bossfight or doing so in an interesting way. I still think that a lot of its BGMs don't get proper credit because the bosses that they were tied to were shitty, even though the music itself was good. Though, at the same time, it seemed to let you down when it actually mattered as all 4 of the Great Soul bosses had mediocre themes.
>>125577102
artorias
king allant
ornstein and smough
old hero
tower knight
>>125584264
Whell, I want the ability to hide behind a shield. Estoc is like this mini-spear in terms of reach. It's perfect, except I'm going DEX so C/D/ isn't ideal for dex.
>>125584483
I like people like you. Its like free dead angle hits.
>>125583965
except that they share connections
both are related to the moon and both use magic. Gwyndolin's sorceries could have something to do with seath, since he was the godfather of sorcerie.
>>125584483
A fully upgraded Estoc is 26% STR and 84% DEX.
>>125583965
>MOONlight butterfly
>MOON sorcerer
>darkMOON bow/catalyst
>whimp that dies in 2 hits but releases powerful magical projectiles
>divine ember
>deity
there are connections
>>125584753
>>125584653
>the literally "It's okay when DaS1 does it" crowd are out in full force
Welp, it was a nice thread while it lasted.
Where does a guy have to go to get co-op summons at 800k soul memory?
>>125584451
Ricards hits like a wet noodle compared to estoc. Unless you plan on buffing ricards, estoc is more versitile, has better range and hits harder.
>fighting someone
>they switch to red tear when their health gets low
>>125584908
follow the orange borders on the teleport menu.
Do you think DaS3 will be good?
>>125585080
I'm probably going to enjoy it even if it's bad.
But it looks pretty promising.
>>125585080
It has a boss that's a walking uterus, of course it will be good.
>>125584879
i never noticed the osts of ds2, i dont know which are repeated
>>125585059
>intelligently using rings
What a fucking travesty! Call the army!
>>125585080
No. It's going to pander to the "le prepare to die XD" and "parise le sun :D" reddit tier memers. It's over. The Souls franchise we fell in love with is nothing but meme PvP and shit tier design.
>>125584483
You might want a 2ndary weapon.
For PvE, it's hard to land hits on some bosses with thrusting weapons, unless you're experienced with free aiming (without lockon). This is another reason why BSS is loved, it's 2HR1 slash is good at hacking fat bosses' legs.
For PvP >>125584584
So why did Marvelous Chester get grabbed by Manus and get brought back to the past? The Chosen Undead gets grabbed presumably because he's carrying Artorias's pendant, but Marvelous Chester shouldn't have anything like that.
>>125585543
Pretty sure it was manus's pendant. Also, chester is a looter, so who knows what else he had.
>>125584908
800k would probably be most populated at Iron Keep or Tseldora. Unfortunately neither of those places are popular for summoning. You can try Earthen Peak by the 1st or 2nd bonfire to catch latecomers, Shaded Ruins bonfire to catch people finishing up their greatsouls (and, if you're lucky, pick them up again at the 1st Tseldora bonfire and then again at the 2nd), Iron Keep's first bonfire and hope you get something that isn't a ganksquad and the Sinner's Rise bonfire to catch people who saved it for last or just overleveled.
You might even find activity at the stairs to Drangleic Castle or its 1st bonfire, but that's unlikely.
Unfortunately, most of the lord souls areas after the first part of the game don't lend themselves well for summoning (eg. the fucking entirety of The Gutter) and the fact that you can do them in any order tends to make consistent summoning brackets impossible. On the bright side, once you reach the 1-2 mil range, you'll be able to co-op everything from Iron Keep to Dragon Shrine to Nashandra to the DLCs.
>>125584879
lol wut. i just pointed out the connections, not bashing on any game
>>125585698
I guess I'll just go to 1-2m then. I don't intend to level up much more.
Artorias, greatbow only is pretty fuckin' tough. Any tips?
>>125586196
Stop torturing yourself with dumb gimmick runs.
>>125585080
I really don't think it will matter. DaS2 was bad and I still got over a thousand hours out of it. Weapon arts already look like a more interesting combat mechanic than powerstance was and we've only seen a handful of movesets. As long as they don't make it an excuse to cop out on standard movesets and still have unique and fun things like Santier's Spear, IKUGS, FUGS, and the BK weapons of DaS1, I'll be happy. My biggest worry is that they'll use weapon arts as an excuse to recycle every normal attack between every weapon of a class and 'unique' or 'special' weapons will only have a slightly different L2 from one another, and not have anything with actually unique or hybrid movesets like Syan's Spear and the Loyce GS or cool special effects like the IKUGS. Projectile-firing special attacks are neat the first few times, but when every special property is just a projectile attack, it gets kind of lame.
>>125585180
>It has a boss that's a walking uterus
What? I thought the bosses we know of so far include the Dancer, that fatso in armour walking on 4 limbs, Major Spooks, something so large it dwarfs Tower Knight himself and the giant lord from the first trailer.
>>125586196
Headshots should stagger him.
>>125586196
360 no scope him. Worked for me on CoD.
>>125586049
For future reference, If you intend to c-op the 1st half of the game, ~100-500k SM is the ideal range. It'll let you co-op for virtually everything, including early game areas like Wharf, Bastille and Copse, all the way up to any of the 4 greatsoul bosses. You can even find some Gutter activity if that's your thing.
>>125586049
>SL150
You're really missing out on the cool shit DaS2 has to offer.
Heavy weapons, powerstancing and high speed fancy combat only becomes viable with lots of stamina.
>>125585543
Note that the chosen undead's pendant is only half of the whole thing
Chester could easily have the second half
>Half of a broken stone pendant. The vine appears to originate from Oolacile.
>>125586301
I can't be feeling the Gough cosplay if I didn't use a greatbow only for the entire run.
>>125586413
Yeah, seems so, thanks. The main problem is that I can't stop him from buffing, even with headshots, though. I guess I'll just avoid him until it's over.
>>125586506
I would if the greatbow didn't need to be reset every time you need to take a shot in another direction
>>125586334
I feel like DS2 improved a few movesets, but killed the essence of it. In DS1 you could connect attacks in a lot of ways, and that added a lot of versatility to every weapon.
>>125586732
That only really applies to pvp. You don't need a well-rounded build to pve, especially for co-op. Base vigor and adp with 99 str is viable in low-mid SM co-op, as is pretty much every other ridiculous thing you can come up with.
The 150 meta is silly but it's convenient that people stop there as it fixes their SM in the drangleic castle range for the remainder of the game and makes co-op matchmaking easy.
>>125586196
There aren't a lot of gaps in his attacks that let you fire off a shot, just need to be super patient and don't get greedy
Headshots do stagger like the other guy said
https://youtu.be/aYY3YfoMYjI?t=10m12s
>>125584483
>C/D/
It's actually C/D/
>>125584451
>Thrusting swords can attack with the shield up. That would make BSS quite OP considering that its stab is nearly the range of a spear.
Yeah that. That's why they made it a straight sword. They considered maybe giving it poorer stats, but then the Estoc already fills that role. A BSS rapier would be a weapon without flaws.
will someone on 360 trade my bone fist across characters?
will give items for compensation
>>125586883
>even with headshots
You're probably missing. Even with throwing daggers you can stun him.
Dark Souls 3 will probably have some fags like Solaire, Lucatiel, Fake Blue Magic Sword Guy, etc. who show up in multiple places and help you out.
All of the aforementioned people tend to eat shit after their first boss battle, do you think DaS3's people will be any different?
>>125587606
Neat gunblade
>>125586901
>In DS1 you could connect attacks in a lot of ways
I think DaS2 wins this one.Until they patch it.
>>125587714
How do you even do that?
>>125584879
Except no one bashed its occurence in DaS2, fag.
>>125587901
I'm guess it has to do with animation-cancelling the 1H->2H switch. I wish I had known about this 8 months ago, it looks amazing.
also
>>125587714
>patch it
>implying DaS2 is ever getting another patch
Don't hold your breath.
>>125587606
I really want some NPC that joins you as a friendly phantom but goes hostile during some boss battle. That'll teach people to think twice before summoning.
>>125587112
>>125587174
Thanks, I got him really close, just a sliver of hp left. I'll give it another go, should be able to get him.
>>125588178
>summon patches
>he's friendly and helps you through the stage
>becomes hostile if you use miracles
I want my moveset back
>>125588159
I actually really hope that doesn't get patched as it's fantastic and should be possible in DaS3.
>>125585059
Every fight where someone put on RTSR went one of two ways.
1. They died next hit
2. They bs fished until i WoG/ HT'd them and they died.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/474425
Rate my meme build.
Its my main.
>>125588262
>Aldron the Friendly Phantom
>wears fake moustache over his helmet
not sure if should summon or not
>>125580531
To be fair though, DS repeats boss themes a lot, so you are more likely to remember themes like asylum demon's (which is repeated in taurus and stray's fights) and moonlight butterfly (which is repeated in gwyndolyn's fight and is thematically similar to sif's fight theme), but yeah they are generally better than those in ds2. The only fight theme I can remember off the top of my head is the one that is played in ruin sentinels/smelter demon's fight, and it isnt even that good imo
>>125588506
Despite all the bitching about fanservice and whatnot, if Maldron makes a return in DaS3 I will cheer.
>never played any kind of ng+ because the idea never appealed to me
>decide to start with an easy one
>bonfire ascetic on the rotten which i killed blind on my first try
>attacks deplete either 90% of my hp or 95% of my stamina bar
>i actually had to git gud and roll his shit
>finally got my mace to +10
Time to get those 400+ damage per hit
>>125588390
3. They spite kite you with invisible 100dmg firespray bursts
>>125588335
I really hate the str weapon movesets in DS2. Instead of letting gravity assist your smash you work against it with that retarded upward swing. I mean you're already holding the club on your shoulder and then lowering it before the swing.
>>125577102
havent played BB yet but:
1. Artorias
2. O+S
3. Fume Knight
4. Tower Knight
5. False King Allant
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/474426
Anything i should change?
>>125588923
Which swing are you even talk about?
>>125589067
Dank, bro.
>>125589081
all str weapons but especially the great club
>>125588680
>strike
>against a massive seething pile of flesh
wtf m8
>>125589067
You can fastroll at base 9 Endurance, so you can put everything that was originally there into Vitality.
>>125589067
you don't look like a nice person anon
>feel like invading on my low SM twink character
>I'd have to go through the hassle of booting up CE and giving myself stacks of CREO again because I ran out last time
>the game is probably dead as fuck by now, especially in early areas
Fuck.
>>125589258
Still did 330 damage per hit.
Guess i could have tried with the rapier but i've been using that for the past 2-3 areas.
>>125577050
sure he's a fuckup, but he's always jovial and cheery in a world gone to shit. His daughter, who knows he's a fuckup is trying to find him and keep him from fucking up, but eventually has to kill him. You don't find that the least bit sad, you internet sociopath?
>>125589501
I just invaded 15 suckers in a row in bastile and harvest valley at 200k sm, I even got 3 blue spirit assists (and fucked all of them in the ass by forcing them into the poison)
>>125586196
>greatbow only is pretty fuckin' tough.
Literally why.
Black bow is so much better. Dex for liyfe.
>summon someone
>they drop a bunch of upgraded items
what's the thought process here? What do they gain by just giving me a bunch of shit?
>>125589501
Scholar is active as fuck, just went through 50 orbs in one hour. There's always someone in bastille or heide's.
>>125589816
they were probably trying to be nice anon
