bote-gineer Edition
previous voyage: >>125276945
The thread is dedicated to all games about building machines out of blocks, in space or otherwise:
Space Engineers, GMod, Starmade, Robocraft, From the Depths, Machinecraft, Corneroids, Besiege, Medieval Engineers, Infinifactory, GearBlocks, Factorio and anything else welcome. Also, all these games are ded. Only ded games may join, otherwise they must have their own thread.
WebM for retards:
>gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter.git
Garry's mod:
>garrysmod.com
Space Engineers:
>spaceengineersgame.com
>SpEngies for retards: i.imgur.com/IZekrGe
StarMade:
>star-made.org
Robocraft:
>robocraftgame.com
From the Depths:
>fromthedepthsgame.com
Machinecraft:
>hrpbk2 wix com/machinecraft
>upload/download designs at filescase.com
>TT Mech template: www.mediafire.com/download/0aalnmvvyvm75sq/TT-Mech-Template.rar
>Helpful starter guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVnW5exF3Q
Besiege:
>store.steampowered.com/app/346010/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-aG7E9gTNI
StarMade Steam Trailer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyxsW_2xmo
Medieval Engineers:
>medievalengineers.com
Infinifactory:
>zachtronics.com/infinifactory
GearBlocks:
>http://www.moddb.com/games/gearblocks
Factorio:
>http://www.factorio.com/
Robot Arena 2:
>http://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=4
>http://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=5
KOHCTPYKTOP: Engineer of the People
>http://www.zachtronics.com/kohctpyktop-engineer-of-the-people/
Black hole bar when
Am I a Bradley yet
>>125518241
>no missile hats
Nope.
>>125518241
Not until they add helmets to help carry more missiles
GPS:Arrakis (Planet):-568927.5:116072.5:-4868927.5:
GPS:Lali (Moon):-533615.5:36384.5:-5063615.5:
GPS:Justicia Impera (Planet):4331072.5:96072.5:-5068927.5:
GPS:Europa Nova (Moon):3966384.5:-13615.5:-5233615.5:
GPS:Titan (Moon):4166384.5:-3615.5:-4883615.5:
GPS:Kargoth Primaris (Planet):4265536.5:110536.5:-494463.5:
GPS:Roscius (Moon):4316384.5:41384.5:-283615.5:
GPS:Vexida (Moon):4066384.5:31384.5:-433615.5:
GPS:Terra Nova (Planet):131072.5:131072.5:381072.5:
GPS:Luna Lupis (Moon):-73615.5:56384.5:121384.5:
GPS:Newell's Maw:1908192.5:8192.5:-2491807.5:
>>125517573
>Ice is the only drivable terrain
>>125518379
So Arrakis is not the current planet model and no structures should be built on it, does that go same with Lali?
>>125518734
Let me rephrase that; Ice is the only drivable terrain I've come across on earthlikes.
>strap on some T4's
[SANIC INTENSIFIES]
>>125518927
Lali stays.
>>125518241
is it way too expensive and not good at anything?
>>125521351
>Not good at anything
Check
>Expensive
T2 thrusters, large cargo container, oxygen shite, flak ammo
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>>125519068
rephrase it again, going fast, cuz with the right set, you can drive anywhere.
need to play with the suspension on the move.
put the last menu just for that
increase and decrease in
friction, strengh and damper, and another for ride heigh if you want, but that means another menu grid.
So this is my first time making an advanced cannon, and I'm trying to make a super-powerful railgun for the fear factor, but apparently the way I set it up is shit because it loads cancerously slow. My ammo input feeders tell me they've been waiting at least a minute for a single shell to load into the turret.
Here's my turret, ammo boxes to follow.
>Server goes down while I'm flying back to base in my miner
>Had 8k uranium and 200k magnesium on board
Oh please god no
>>125521778
Here's the ammo boxes. It's wierd because I have a shit ton of them, so the ammo controller should be able to produce them at sanic speeds. Why are they not transferring to the turret?
>>125521614
Sounds pretty similar to me.
>>125521728
The problem is hills. If I used thrusters to give a boost, sure, but on wheels alone the terrain is barely navigable without smacking the cockpit into a ditch or rolling over into a ditch. Earthlikes are too hilly.
I found one area I was able to actually go fast in, and then I hit a tree, lost power, and rolled sideways into a mountainside.
Can wheel variables be set through a programming block? Could make presets that way.
>>125521980
Output feeders arent in anymore in the devtest.
You should try building there, i dont see in your images an ammo router on the turret(and you need one more anywhere on the ship)
Also, can you place the output feeders in the ship instead of the turret?
>>125522698
I'm not using the devtest because Ipiratedit. The feeder's in the back of the turret and another in the back of the clusterfuck of ammo crates.
With nuengines you can easily get small engine setups which is pretty dank. This is a cute little 3x4x2 engine setup.
Limited to 50% output it generates 150 power at 16% heat indefinitely for 1 fuel/s. So it's running at 1fuel:143 power which is pretty efficient and only has a heat signature of 67 which is very small. That space also includes 4000 fuel which means you're good for over an hour without having to refuel.
Was using the shield to test load on it.
>>125523789
This thing might as well run indefinitely, I played with it for a few minutes and it used maybe 5 fuel.
Railgunfag here, I found out what was wrong with my turret, turns out I made the shells 2m instead of 1 and that fucked it up. They're loading fairly well now, but my railgun is a piece of shit. It fires the shells in an automatic spray but their range is even shittier than regular turrets.
>>125525090
Railguns are pretty junk, are you trying to go gunpowderless?
Also the more "rail" things you add along the barrel changes what % of the battery you consume, each one adds 5% iirc. So you can use that to tailor your battery consumption hopefully.
>>125524539
Upgraded it a little. Doubled fuel capacity, lost a little fuel efficiency, made the engine engine/fuel/radiator package 3x3x3. so for 8% increase in size overall it's much more usable since it can just be sunk into the floor like so.
And because of improved hull it's the same speed at half the propeller speed so it's much better on fuel anyway.
>>125525564
I'm using 1m shells with a supercavitation base and an AP capped head. Is that bad for railguns? Also, I fixed the range, but now the damage and penetration is extremely shitty, even if it can travel long distances. It's only able to chip a single block at a time off of an enemy.
>>125526810
Also forgot to mention the cloaking device I forgot to turn off.
>>125527060
Honestly if you're going for railguns you have enough problems getting any speed or range, just go for HE senpai, it's probably gonna be the best bang for buck without needing a 1000000 power engine to fuel your railgun. Literally just a couple HE bodies or whatever, probably get good damage and decent speed. Or HEAT or something if you like that.
>>125518241
>that
>brad
>Design ship loosely based on russian pre-dreadnaught battleship
>It's a hyper explosive deathtrap.
So historically accurate!
>>125529919
This is fine.
>>125530510
im really digging the design
ftd 2016 for comfiest (and hottest) engine room.
>>125530702
Credit is due to the Imperial Russian navy. The worst navy that ever existed.
Also because of the absurd turret layout, which is pretty much exactly what the Borodino class battleships were rocking it has problems with shooting itself in the superstructure, causing devastating turret explosions unless you set really severe restrictions on the turret arcs.
>>125531412
>comfiest (and hottest) engine room.
that's a funny way to spell my room m8
Do you even lift hull?
flashlight/spotlight in spectator mode when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLULRlmXkKo
robbits
markel pls
Holy shit, advanced cannons are so frustrating. I just want a giant gun that can shoot a bullet at mach 2 and fuck over a good portion of the target while it's at it.
>>125535790
You actually want to have a dozen pea shooters, right?
>>125536557
No, fuck that bullshit, I want a Battleship-tier heavy cannon so powerful that I can feel it in my chest when it fires. Maybe three in one platform for the full effect.
>>125536982
you mean you cant do that?
old cannons could have you make fuckhuge calibers
>>125517537
Is there any game like From the Depths that allows you to make wooden sailing ships with cannons? I fucking love 18th century ship construction.
>>125538303
Old cannons do have huge calibers available to them, but I'm trying to get that as well as the extreme speed that advanced cannons can reach.
>>125538487
Extreme speed? You mean like, rapid firing heavy caliber guns?
Like extreme DPS?
Fuck that.
Unless it's projectile speed.
Objectively best sort of weapon in any game are slow-firing instant kill weapons with limitations such as limited firing arcs, limited effective distance or drop-off with distance and the like.
Sniping running people, planes with rocket launchers is the best thing ever.
>>125536982
The biggest you can have is 50cm, which is larger than the cannons aboard the ship in your picture (40.9cm).
Custom cannons are closer to 80cm but much slower muzzle velocity.
If you want frustrating, try out the new fuel engines. They produce less than 1/10th of the power and they actually shut off if they overheat.
comfyspire nearing completion
welding this up is going to be awful though
>>125538928
Nuengines are great, they make it so more little stuff will be around since large stuff will actually be expensive to field now.
Here is a great little plane, uses 2 fuel/s when making ammo, runs at 11% heat too. That's using 2 large radiators, 2 turbocharger and an exhaust. So this thing basically has an hour of flight time at 55m/s while dropping missiles the whole time. (up to 1000 of them before needing to refill metal reserves)
Localized resources is hardly that punishing so far.
>>125518336
>>125518349
[raughs]
>>125540024
I suppose I'm just a little salty that I have to make a bunch of new shit now that my old fleet is obsolete.
>>125538893
Projectile speed is what I mean. I couldn't care less about the rapid fire or reload rate, as long as the shots pack a powerful punch. Better to hit it once with a knock-out blow instead of wasting energy and resources on a swarm of pencil-thin pricklers.
>>125540528
Yeah, I didn't really have anything and haven't had anything ever so I just enjoy making new shit weekly.
Also with new update batteries/electric engines have a real use. With low RPM engines being viable now (just stack as many carburetors as you can on each cylinder) you can make 10%capped engines that run 24/7 to charge batteries. electric-diesel is alive boys.
Why don't muh sails work? They do provide forward force but I can't control them using the winches.
I have set it in the V menu to use TG to control winches, but still no dice.
>>125541664
Need winches at bottom and sides of sails. Only makes sense on the not square sails but whatever.
>>125541770
Still no luck.
>>125541886
but anon, the sail on the right is doing it? Maybe I'm not understanding what you're after.
>>125541886
Nah, the sail on the right is actually chopped in half because I put a winch in there. The right hand sail has 2 winches, one on each axis.
Still can't use my keyboard to winch sail in.
>>125542080
Are you on devtest? I'm on devtest and can't get them to work either.
>>125542470
Yeppers.
>>125542470
Also going to bed, I blame devtest. Test AI with it, it can probably use it still, just got broken with the addition of engines or something.
>>125535075
spacca?
I think I'm going to call it the Iron Patriot.
And yes, that big motherfucker under the waterline is the fucking keel for this monstrosity.
>Haven't been on Robocraft in over 6 months
>Things have changed, cool.
>Get into match making
>5 minute long queues
>Every team match has no idea what defending is
>Consistently score highest, even with the lowest K/D
>Never rank up because its a loss.
Fuck this game is unbelievable stupid
>>125544197
>not making a proper looking ship.
Absolutely disgusting. Redo it fag
How in the mother of fuck do I make a good modern hull in From the Depths?
>>125535075
Keencode.
>>125544323
Imperator Trump requires a ship to encapsulate his renegade glory, fagget.
>>125544350
Start with a triangle. First you cut off the bottom two corners, then extrude it out into a prism, then make the front pointy and give it a flat deck at the back for a helicopter.
Bam. Modern hull.
So do I need a propellant for my shell if its a railgun? Is being able to pack in more explosives supposed to be the main advantage of using one instead of a normal cannon?
>>125542982
I lied i got caught up with an idea.
So this is a one cylinder engine.
It has many batteries attached (43000 power worth).
This engine is designed for low RPM, it has two things I tested, 10% and 50% load.
10% load is ridiculous.
50 power output which you may think is whatever, but it consumes 0.1 fuel/s with that, with an efficiency of 650 power/fuel, so with the 13000 fuel pictured it will generate over the length of the fuel 8,450,000 power which will take a whopping 36 hours and refill the entire battery every 14 min. Also it runs at 1% heat.
At 50% it's a bit more nasty. 250 power, 1 fuel/s consumption, 8% heat. It will run for a measly 3h 36m at this speed. However it will charge the entire battery in just 168 seconds. The total power generated more than halves though, only 3,250,000 generated over the length of the fuel.
10% I think would be best on a tower or something, a building. It's very efficient, use it in your base perhaps, set up 10 and have them be hyper efficient with a large battery bank.
50% would be suitable for a decent size boat if you toggle shield off when you aren't in battle, and obvs you can make the batteries bigger. I just wanted to see how small I could make a very big storage thing, considering the entire thing is only 3(5 with poking out chargers)x10x4(5 with the one charger there).
Thoughts?
>>125544512
Theoretically, no. But unless your gun is fuckhueg then yes.
Railgun is a flat addition to the velocity of your projectile based on the stored charge. So if your projectile has a velocity of 0 and the railgun adds 300m/s then you've got a shell that starts at 300m/s.
![James-Corden-281781[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fnUHaxC.jpg "James-Corden-281781[1].jpg")
>>125544389
Imperator Trump needs a ship that actually functions. Imperator trump only gets the best and biggest ships, not some blade-keel piece of 40k wank shit. Do it again.
>>125544616No.
>>125544568
Also you can obvs run it at 100% without too much problem. Sits at 34% heat/485power for 4.8fuel/s.
>>125544912
You wanna fucking throw down mate? I will fucking kick your ass faggot, fix your ship or I will track your IP address, come to your house and shit on your pillow. I fucking swear on my mom's grave.
>>125546126
COME AT ME FIG
Keen
what in the fuck is this
>>125547757
I was just joking anon, but I want to see you improve and make better ships instead of impractical designs that need some work to be truly nice.
>>125548042
I never set out to make something realistic, basically. It was always supposed to be an over exaggerated late 1800s ironclad.
>>125547779
good thing they're better at making games than websites, huh?
>>125548153
That isn't what I meant. I mean fix your keel and make a proper ballast to make your ship balanced while also looking how you desire.
>>125547779
>Don't put anything in the box
>WHY THE FUCK DID YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE BOX
do you really want a person like that registering on the forums?
Making a Destroyer. Attempt number 4
>>125548314
Read it right to left, haha fuck you anon.
>>125548394
that just means you were the one always getting fucked by the super mario bait-and-switch comic instead faget
>>125548589
Naaw, it just means I am a humongous weeaboo who practically only reads manga.
Anyways. Post cute sailing ships!
How the fuck do I properly save my mod's state
Keen understands neither OOP nor serialization so I can't subclass the objectbuilders
Do I actually, literally, have to write my own serializer and save to a separate config file
cause that'd be retarded as fuck, I refuse to believe somebody actually designed it that way
The front gun is deliberately unarmoured, but I'm not sure if I like the gun shield. Any better ideas?
>>125548589
>Went looking for it to post before I saw this
Hivemind etc.
Give me some bridge ideas, this is horrible.
>>125550037
4m slopes sticking directly upwards are good for a bridge's front face.
>>125550151
Tried it but due to the ship being rather small it looks disproportionate as hell.
I'm playing around with it. I should really try and build something modelled on real life from scratch desu senpai.
>>125550730
That looks fine to me tbqh.
Maybe try an open bridge. Like a command pavilion.
Has anyone landed on dune yet?
>mfw he was from Brisbane, AUS
>tfw getting shitposted by illiterate 12 year olds
>>125538418
Bruh
half the Onyx Watch is wooden sailing ships
Ok just pirated blaneds. How I maek blaned in a empty world?
>>125551898
Wooden sailing ships wich will now kick your ass with high explosive ACs and are fucking unsinkable.
>>125555229
Just start with a planet world
>>125551227
>mfw>tfw no reaction images on phone
>>125551227Im so glad you've started using shitting in my biscuits as a thing, I feel accomplished
>>125555639
>not building a fuckhueg sub to destroy everything in sight from 100m below the surface
>>125556797
I did do this.
But nuCannon OW are hell for your surface boats. Surface boats are like delicate babies that must be protected. The submarines can look after themselves.
>>125555667
But there are no precoderualy generated blaneds?
>>125556987
>NPC using nucannons
>sweating_man.exe
>onna serb
>try automated inventory sorting
>IT WERKS
>endless joy
>it stops werking
>mfw
pls
>>125557584
No procedrua blaneds. Make blaneds with Shift+F10 and adding them as you see fit.
>>125558136
Have you tried turning it off an on again?
>>125558208
Thenks fellos enginir. may clang let your creations live another day
What is the max ship size allowed on warbros? Talking about block count.
I have the a good idea, imagine if you got a ship inside the planet with medbay, you would be untouchable to most people and can pop out (clang permitting) whenever and wherever you want.
>>125558710
Do you mean
Like
Inside a cave or phased through the planet?
Because if you're in a cave it's doable, but you will still have a hole making you exposed.
If you mean phased into the planet, those voxels are still there, and the game shits itself something fierce when a mobile grid gets phased into rock.
>>125558929
If there was an underground cavern you could warp into, though.
IMAGINE.
>>125558418
It is 3000 now, may change when we have the new server hardware.
>tfw returning rom a 1 year break to spengies and everything feels unfamiliar
>>125549232
>deliberately unarmored
>fifty gorillion HE warheads on fifty gorillion shells in exposed magazines
hehhehehhe
>>125558991
>maybe more.jpg
>tfw doing geometry in spess to calculate what angle and distance you need to jump in order to get as close to a planets gravity well as possible without entering it
>>125563107
That's 5th grade math anon
Certainly not impressive enough for a screenshot
>>125563406
This is a lot more math skills than I put into any other game anon.
>>125563107
Jump drives automatically drop you a distance away from anything.
>>125549232
And I thought I made >>125529919 a death trap.
At least the turrets have armor so the only explode when struck by HE. That shit is going to blow the fuck up in a strong breeze.
>serb stable as shit
>can even get out of my chair on my sparky going 250m/s
>able to mine
jesus fuck what is this magic
>>125563107
Just point at the planet, mess with the jump distance until it will jump into the grav well, then reduce the jump bit by bit until it just allows you to jump, you will be really close to the grav well.
>>125558929
I'm talking about phasing. It seems to happen a bit more often now, once you are under the surface it is as if it is empty space. Leaving the phase can be tricky.
>>125561841
IMAGINE
DED
E
D
>>125568823
UNLIKE THE SERB
http://robocraftgame.com/full-spectrum-combat-launches-tomorrow/
It's happening.
>>125570296
good night sweet t-x.
>want game similar to Stranded ll
>all of them are early acess bullshit
C'mon
>>125570296
I don't get it.
Robocraft has been on the spectrum since the beginning.
requesting infinite speed mod + atmospheric drag mod (no deadly reentry) to be added to the serb :^)
>>125570296
So it begins, the updates that will decide Robocraft's fate.
After the next number of updates we will have to see if they turn it into a game for babies or a game for people who actually want to have fun.
will spengis be able to support large single grid cities on blaneds?
>>125570296
more like full spectrum autism
>>125573739
Hahaha, that was fast.
Star wars fags can eat shit.
Not even Sci fi.
ded
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>>125572067
>applycoldwaterdirectlytoburn.png
>>125573739
Thanks bro ;_; let me know when something you loves dies so I can shit on that.
>unnamed grid
>public medbay
You fucking double nigger.
>>125577370
Sorry. I set everything to share all because I was trying to find the source of a linkage problem.
Well thanks I guess spaghetti code
>>125577676
What you get for being yuropoor
>>125576495
>>125573739
>>125573739
>decided to postpone the screening to friday night
>my friends told me to hide from the Internet
>told me to build a shelter for the entire week
>oh whatever i should check /egg/ for some clang ideas
>being trapped like a rookie by some spoilfag motherfucker
>>125579998
>giving a single crap about the sequel to the three worst mainstream movie sequels in history
It's only your fault.
>>125580080
>>125580080
>>125574731
samefag
>>125580267
Kill yourself, faggot. There are more than 2 people here.
>>125580363
nice photoshop
>>125580363
>falling for that old samefag taunt
>>125580267
>>125580363
samefag
>>125580476
>falling for the falling for the samefag taunt
I have out-witted you, for I haven't pretended to be retarded, I was retarded all along!
>>125580476
You can always spot the redditors when they respond with a screencap as ''proof''.
>>125580649
You can always spot the redditors when they respond to a post with a screencap as ''proof''.
>>125580761
You can always spot the redditors when they post on 4chan
>>125580910
You can always spot the redditors when they live.
So what are the new engines like in From the Depths? Is this part of a trend where the developers are trying to make everything super complicated? Are the advanced engines at least superior to the regular engines unlike the advanced cannons?
>>125581371
They're utterly incomprehensible and 1/10 as powerful as previously, FtD is now officially ded and you should play DOTA instead.
>>125580649
>>125580761
>>125580910
>>125581057
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess?
>>125581371
>ADVANCED engines
Who the fuck ever called them that
The old engines were literally broken and imba as all hell. Now engine power, fuel consumption and heat management actually matter. Direct driveshaft connections soon, and custom props to go with it.
>>125580761
It's not even logically sound. If you were samefagging you'd just use your cell phone.
>>125582057
I keep hearing that. Got a link?
I'd like to get into modding spengies (new thrusters and ressources mainly) but right now I find it kind of inaccessible. So where should I start (with zero programmation skills) ? and how would you describe the modding in spengies in comparison to other games/toolkits, is it easy or laborious ?
>>125582216
hello reddit
>>125581371
They aren't "advanced" engjnes. They're a straight replacement for the old ones that are less imbalanced in favor of huge engines that generate near unlimited power.
It's easier to make small engines that produce practical levels of power, which helps small craft, particularly aircraft. But ships covered in lasers and shields drawing power directly from engines are not practical.
>>125581371
Don't listen to
>>125581497
new engines are great, they really aren't very complicated. You can get good engines for whatever really easily. In like, 30 minutes of fiddling around last night I figured it out. There's still very powerful engines that can be made. I made one last night that wasn't even very big and still outputted ~2000 power consistently. *Maybe* slightly larger than an old engine, but it also ran at 1/100 of the temperature so you could in theory actually use heat decoys. You have a lot more choice though, low rpm engines are extremely efficient, high rpm ones are about 1/2 as efficient but output significantly more power and require a lot more cooling.
it doesn't take long to figure out, just play with them if you really need help I'll add you on steam or something.
[can't wake up]
Anyone want to fight on dune?
I'll kill you harder than hand solo is killed by his son.
:^)
With new engines is there an easy way to route a radiator to the of an engine? I wish I could make a 3x3 engine block thing and attach radiators on the sides, not possible though, is it?
>>125583141
>>125582383
>So where should I start (with zero programmation skills) ?
Programming
>modding in spengies in comparison to other games/toolkits
Reading the game's sourcecode trying to figure out what the devs had in their mind when implementing design patterns in a really broken way
People are setting up glass 'farms' expecting glass on robutts to be kept when they turn glass into a GC item
I feel like I've just wasted minutes of my life that could have been spent doing something better.
I, however, am happy that glass is getting a buff after that horrendous nerf they gave it before.
>>125584157
Programming yes, I'm french so when I write quickly I still miss some words, and unfortunately replace them in my native language.
You didn't answer though. How is the spengie modkit in comparison to, let's say the valve source engine where a built-in editor fasten the way one can learn about modding. I don't see that kind of toolkit in space engineers. So I've assumed that maybe you guys at /egg/ would have some sort of practice guidelines for retards.
>>125585349
>You didn't answer though. How is the spengie modkit in comparison to, let's say the valve source engine where a built-in editor fasten the way one can learn about modding. I don't see that kind of toolkit in space engineers. So I've assumed that maybe you guys at /egg/ would have some sort of practice guidelines for retards.
There is no toolkit. Read the game's sourcecode on github, go mod it using certain interfaces
>>125583141
At least Boston didn't get nuked.
>DWG merchant fleet rollling up on my turf
>start the battle when they're about 5km out, to test some ultra-long range missiles
>while the first missile isn't even 1km towards them, spot a 'too damaged[5s]' notification on the horizon
>how the fuck
DWG quality
>>125585723
>play against DWG in vehicle designer on devtest
>their advanced cannons absolutely demolish me
>>125585562
Ok thanks for showing the direction.
>>125570296
>All Armor upgraded to Carbon 6 for everyone
>Just one kind of Armor now based on the style of the Carbon 6 with the same health and mass stats as the Carbon 6
>All users who previously owned Carbon 6 cubes or Hallow Cubes will have their RP reimbursed so they can re-purpose the RP on other items
>Game has been completely rebalanced for one type of Armor, Weapons, Electroplate, Robot Rankings, all rebalanced to match the armor
>Carry masses of functional Movement cubes upgraded to account for the new higher masses of the upgraded Chassis cubes
>Many new 1x1x1 shapes added to the Chassis category – more larger sizes shapes to follow in early 2016
>All S-Type variants removed, with non-S-Type stats upgraded to S-Type stats (non-S-Types looked better when colored, so they were best to keep)
>All removed cubes replaced with equivalent cube to maintain your Robot integrity
>Tech Tree layout reworked to reflect the changes above into a spiral formation
What the fuck are they trying to do here?
Do we know how long before new engines and localised resources get into the FtD campaign? I don't want to start or carry on if everything is suddenly going to change. The constant threat of drastic alteration is making me chronically anxious.
>>125586141
reduce variables to make balancing easier.
Plus it was annoying when someone would twink down using high tier armor. you'd get a skeleton frame robot that couldn't be hurt by anything either than an equivalent tier weapon.
>>125582383
There is no modding toolkit.
The game is ostensibly open source although they haven't updated the repo in a while.
>>125581371
They're cute as fuck and actually less complicated.
They're also dramatically less powerful, but oldengines won't be in the game anymore- every new ship MUST use new engines. Old blueprints still work, though, but you can never change out their cylinders or they'll become the new ones.
Eventually we're getting nuclear engines, which will provide the power output level we're used to, but with downsides such as exploding easily.
>>125586323
Just go play devtest now and do campaign with localized resources and new engine?
>>125586323
Most of us are just designing new ships on devtest while we wait. You could play your campaign on devtest if you wanted, but it'll be subject to even faster change than you're already uncomfortable with.
>>125585723
One of them probably had old engine parts that are bonked now and had a crazy internal collision that in turn blew up an outdated shell parts box which destroyed the entire ship.
No really I had this happen to one of my ships.
>>125584897
Time to stock up on glass and t1 blocks.
>>125586635
>>125586731
I can't deal with this early access shit
Nothing is constant
Nothing is real
>>125586973
MORE FEATURES
MORE CHANGES
PROGRESS MARCHES EVER ONWARDS
>>125586973
Oh I know, it's terrible, but at least it's kinda like getting a new game every once in a while?
>>125586973
Switch to Space Engineers.
No risk of new features here.
>>125586602
>nuclear engine
this pleases me.
Most fuel efficient way to lift 224 mass into the air? Don't want to be high really, just off the water 30-40m
>>125586141
1. By removing tiers people will no longer complain about t1 armour megabots and the like.
2. Less robot variety, more balance. R-right?
3. Artbots who want pretty colours can now do that without compromising on armour.
You have to understand Freejam is trying to enable people who LOVE artbots to play the game.
Freejam is literally taking a fucking sledgehammer to the game for LOL ARTBOTS
This is fine. A lot of the changes they have planned could actually be very good if they do it right.
It's hit or miss whether Freejam actually decides to take it the right way.
If Freejam takes this the right way we'll start to see different armour types such as armour that fractures easily yet maybe provides temporary cover or explosive resistant armour or heavy armour.
If Freejam takes this the wrong way they'll dumb the game down until the game literally becomes nothing but lego racers for kids who play minecraft on creative mode.
>>125587287
this
>stuck at work
>stupid people all dey
>same 10 Christmas songs on repeat
>do you want to build a mememan somehow counts as a Christmas song
>just want to go home and autism while watching Mongolian cavepaintings
>keep getting ideas for planes cars trains and whatnot
>forget them by the end of the hour
5O'CLOCK WHEN
>>125588068
>>125587383
Been trying to spend a bit of time each night thinking about nuclear engines! But I want to know how you think they should work!
Here is my basic idea ( with a limited understanding of how a nuclear engine actually works!)
A central piece (don't know it's name yet)
Water pipes come off it in all directions
The water pipes are coated in uranium blocks
There are control rods in that connect to the uranium blocks
The whole think has to be surrounded in shielding blocks
The reactor basically heats up depending on the number of uranium blocks- the hotter it is the more power it produces
The number of control rods and their connections to the uranium try to keep it cool
The connections the water pipes have to the uranium determine how much of that heat is turned into power
The aim is to get it damn hot but not so hot that it blows up
Heat is kind of equivalent to radio-activeness
If a hole appears in the shielding the radio-activeness will escape and damage everything outside- expanding a bit like a gas
The aim, gameplay wise, is to make a large very powerful engine that, once damaged, is extremely dangerous.
- nick's forum post on the subject
Anyone play with the General PiD on devtest? I can't get it to control a vertical propeller which is pretty trash. Any help?
>>125587597
Balloons.
>>125588148
Exactly
>>125584897
>charging money for transparent blocks
I know, they're not essential to gameplay, but c'mon. Also, painting is limited to four/sixteen colours?
>all chassis blocks will have the same mass as T10 armour
RIP jets.
>>125582834
sparkyhulkan?
How do I put a bow on this bitch?
NO BRAKES ON THE SIMSPEED ROLLERCOASTER
No blastin. Pls.
>>125592949
gif edition
>>125590480
>Rip jets
they already said that movement stuff gets re-ballanced to account for that
What scripts, timers, sensors, refinery blocks, drills did anyone activate in the last 15 minutes?
Did anyone drop a ship into a grav well, or spill loads of parts?
I need answers here.
>>125587203
I find myself happy when I know someone else has a bigger EA list than me. The pain of delusion is shared.
>>125594529
I just spawned in on my sparky-earthbase. I opened the door and went outside.
I want to get off mr. simspeed's wild ride
>>125588148
>tfw my life is pretty much this lately
>>125594529
I logged in after the reboot with my drills and a grav collector going. Turned them off before the server went down again. Four refineries going, but that's about it.
>>125587637
Oh hey, that's me.
>>125594980
>drills
Please use one drill only. For a reason. Voxel changes cause tremendous update delay for every client. Refer to the Earthbreaker. Please read the rules post.
>grav collector
Floating items are limited to 16. As soon as a 17th item spawns anywhere in the game world, the 1st is deleted. You can disassembled that array and save us physics calculations.
>>125595417
Typo. Only one drill, just a Large Earthbreaker.
The grav collector was more relevant in the old world, I guess. It would regularly collect about 1/5 as much ore as the Earthbreaker drill would, just because so much loose ore was flying off into space.
It looks like electric engines will be cool for making tiny drones now that there is resource transfer between ships.
I made a craft that can shit out a missile every few seconds, I suppose you could have a mothership that just constantly spawns and fuels disposable craft.
>>125595417
Well that explains why when I was hand mining, half my ore would disappear.
Okay, since nothing I did was changing the behaviour, I am turning the server off and will do local tests. Once I found the issue, I will report back and boot the server back up. If I find that someone has set some stupid script at an insane update rate or whatever, I'll have a stern chat with that person.
I don't care if you fuck up.
I do care if you keep mum about it. Talk to me.
I was drilling with a single large ship drill on an asteroid around 15-20 minutes before the server started shitting the bed. No timers being used or anything.
>accidentally spend all my crystal making everybody mad at the DWG
>suddenly a few coffin nails come into range of my 'fuck everything on the other side of the planet' missiles
>get like 2000 crystal from the first salvo of missiles hitting them
my experience is going through the roof too
this shit's great
>>125597673
Alright. I found the issue. It's an ingame script.
Someone set up a script in the last 15 minutes before I took the server down that is doing some intensely insane calculations for the server This can be a high update cycle, or many blocks affected. Please come forward and tell me who did anything like this, so we know which script it is.
I will turn off all script clock timer blocks that trigger scripts. If you turn them on, let me know. If It happens again and I have to hunt down who did it, we'll have to think about measures to prevent this.
Scripts add a lot of functionality to space engineers. If people abuse this without regards to the toll it takes on a server, such as trigger/starting and endless loop of self-retriggering timers with massive scripts, then I might have to turn that feature off, and that would suck for everyone.
So, save me time and let others enjoy the game. Come forward and let's get this over with.
I'm not anywhere near serb, but is it just SIM speed shitting or is everyone's frame rate shitting?
If it's frames shitting, there could be a block stuck into a rock or something like in >>125577676
>>125600165
Good thing i never fuck around with scripts and just do shit manual.
>>125600165
BURN THE WITCH
Is the server still down?
So I've been told grav collectors are inefficient, and I'd like to know why. Assuming I've got a drillship set up like pic related - spherical grav gen directly between a collector and the drill - what exactly is the inefficiency?
I get a lot of ore flying off into space when I drill, and a significant amount of ore is in my collector whenever I drop it off. The collection funnel is big enough to catch all the flying chunks but small enough that I can still tunnel straight through asteroids without needing to widen the cavity created by the drill. The funnel itself is cheap to make - almost exclusively iron - and has negligible mass compared to the Earthbreaker Drill itself.
I won't use the grav collector anymore if it's causing unnecessary physics calculations, but I'd really like to understand what exactly is the problem with this setup from an efficiency standpoint.
>>125600165
Some dumbass will likely come forward in a few days' time going: "Oh I was away why are scripts disabled? Also I had automated a welder array to create and launch moon-sized dildos at nearby asteroids so I need scripts back thanks."
Gas those who stress the server.
>>125601519
If you're using an earthbreaker it literally doesn't matter that you lose a few scraps out the sides
>>125601519
You are barely picking shit up with it, most of the time the rocks cycle out before they even make it to the collector.
>>125601519
>I won't use the grav collector anymore if it's causing unnecessary physics calculations
>if
It is.
>>125601519
You'll spend more on the collection array than you'll ever catch in tiny ore chunks flying off.
And by "go and do the math" I meant literally, sit down and crunch the numbers. I would be interested to see the results of that, not your crapshoot MSpaint skills.
>>125601519
It's easier for the server to delete the few chunks that fly off into space after you drill than for it to work out how to calculate those little pieces trajectories under gravity. Also, if you do a few spurts of drilling, the server will probably start auto-deleting some of the loose pieces you're picking up with the grav array, as it deletes loose pieces of shit floating around past a certain (small) number.
In short, a lot of effort and more server calculations for very little gain.
>long day at work
>looking forward to chilling and messing around in spengies with the gang
>some chucklefuck using big scripts and not coming forward about it fucking the server
Please let us know who it is.
I'd like to thank him.
Are new FtD resources going to make it feasible to have a rechargeable battery bank to charge your laser? Rather than just having a fuckhueg engine.
>>125603304
>Please let us know who it is.
I won't do that. I am not for enciting a witch hunt. I'll take care of it myself.
>>125603304
If they'd just message Ced, they wouldn't even have to come forward to everyone. Then we can all have scripts without the server crashing.
That or they could just gas themselves. I'm not choosy.
Goddammit I want to cruise around in my under-optimised dildo-driller NOW.
>>125603913
I just want to go back to sticking sparkys together.
Maybe making a borg cube.
>>125604093
I need to get started on my Lira base
IM GOING TO FUCKING MURDER THIS STUPID CAPTCHA
>>125601860
>>125601919
>>125601959
I should really clarify.The physics calculations bit was already explained - I should have said "since" instead of "if" - as was the reduced floating objects limit of 16. It was around 50 (I believe?) on the old world and a significant amount of ore would fly out from the drill whenever I mined (a big wave every few seconds), though that might have been due to the simulation speed preventing the drill from effectively collecting nearby chunks. I've already disabled the gravity portion and intend to grind it down when the server comes back up.
>>125601996
As far as the collection array is concerned, I'll make a rough overestimate of 9x9*2 armor blocks each costing 10 steel plates each, which comes to 1620 steel plates. Add in the cost of a gravity generator, a collector and three pieces of wire and that's still not much. Iron's almost worthless and the collector picks up more than enough materials to cover its cost in one run of the corresponding ore.
>>125602941
The cost in terms of physics calculations I've already commented on in this post, along with the reduced floating object limit. Part of what the gravity generator does is pull ore back into the drill, too. I agree that the cap of 16 does mean it sees little use, now.
--
So it seems like, physics aside, it's less a matter of inefficiency and more that the Earthbreaker picks up most of the ore from a deposit, with the total volume from a given deposit being so large that even if, say, 10% escapes, 90% is more than enough for whatever purposes. That sound about right?
Can someone post that neat serb map? I found it useful.
>>125604381
>That sound about right?
Yes. When you get millions of any ore in a matter of minutes it doesn't matter that you lose a few chunks out the side.
>>125604712
Just feels wrong to waste anything in space.
>>125563107
>using gimp to do math
>any math
>not just using the back of an envelope
>>125604842
Good thing this is a video game
>using funnels with Earthbreakers
>not using gravity gens to repel ore to prevent that one pebble from mystically getting into your sealed drill ship and rupturing everything the moment you move
Millions of kg of loose ore is a terrifying thing.
>>125604402
>serb map
>serb
>>125604985
Shield generators, good funnel design and a good simulation speed kind of nix that concern.
>>125604402
I'll update it with stations soon.
>>125601694
To be honest I think such a person deserves praise for managing to make a moon-sized dildo launcher
>>125605131
Thanks
>>125603820
>not supporting the witch hunt
