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Armored Warfare and World of Tanks combined fleet edition
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first for why did you let the thread die?
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where is everybody? ;_; edition
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>>125501581
They're all gone, they're playing ships
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anime
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>>125501963
not even floof can bring the thread back from death
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>>125502498
there is nothing she can't do
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Whats the main difference between the Brit Sherman and the american one(in term of 105)?
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>>125503063
American sherman gets 2 degrees more of gun depression, Sherman III gets 50 more hp.


overall there's no difference at all really unless you're autistic enough to notice. It's like comparing the IS-3 to the IS-3 Auto, minor differences do exist but the average player will not notice them at all
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>>125503302
>It's like comparing the IS-3 to the IS-3 Auto, minor differences do exist
lmao @ this shitter
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>>125503809
name the differences between the two then.

>b-but the turret is flatter and it has a second faster reload
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update soon
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>>125504250
>different gun
>worse pen and accuracy
>way worse dispersion
>worse power/weight ratio
>b-but it looks the same
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>>125504250
http://tanks.gg/en/wot/compare#t:is-3.c:is-3-auto
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I have 90 k free exp, wat it do?
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>>125504991
Who's SaWse?
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>tfw WoT is more fun on tablet.
I think it's because it's a well fleshed out arcade game.
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>>125503063
Brit one has:
-2 degrees worse depression
-Worse engine traverse bonus
-Higher RoF on 76mm, but shittier premium pen and heavier
-Lighter 105
-Has 6-pounder option, though it has shitty RoF compared to other Brit tier 5s
Mostly the Britbong one comes out worse, just like all the other LL line tanks.
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>Everyone watching the Republican debate
>No one playing tanks
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>>125508026
>implying I'm doing either
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Please tell me the clusterfuck starts to end near tier 3 and 4. I can't stand how much of a fast paced clusterfuck this shit is at low tier.
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>>125508191
it's not a fast paced clusterfuck above tier 4. instead it's people sitting, afraid to take shots, not doing damage, and waiting for someone else to win for them
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>>125508191
If you mean tanks dying in 2 seconds to autocannon spam, yes it does stop. If you mean entire teams dying in 3 minutes, no that never ends.
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>>125508508
>>125508516
That sounds better, I'm used to playing somewhat cautiously since I mostly play War Thunder GF. And the fact that I more or less have to charge right in is kinda jarring. Sorry for being a shitter.
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>>125508649
It's understandable, tier 1-2 tanks just feel like go-karts with machine guns.
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>>125508649
make sure you learn about the different tanks you meet as you go, knowing what you can pen, what can pen you, and were to shoot is important at 4+
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>>125509926
I can generally do that since that part is fairly straightforward. I'm used to having to aim for very specific spots and not the whole tank ya know? It's a difficult switch.
I was better directing low tier teams truthfully, when they listened, we'd win. Was pretty fun, but that was a year or two ago and no one uses chat anymore
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is there a better feeling than T71?
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>>125510129
ELC, and beyond that shooting someone while drifting in the ELC
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>Be the one asking for help with low tiers
>Switch to my Matilda
>Hold down an entire avenue solo against four enemies bouncing hits like mad
>105mm HE to the top of the crew compartment of a Panzer 3 doesn't one shot it
This is why I like war thunder, when something should be nuked, it is...most of the time
I just like the upgrade system and variety of vehicles here
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>>125510882
T71 better at drifting and more comfy gun imo
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>>125510970

The matilda is easy for anyone in a decent tank who actually knows WoT

but you're right, playing against people that don't know where to shoot it makes you feel like jesus in a tank
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>>125511084
They eventually got me with APCR it looked like. Because I got wrecked in two hits. Took one of them with me and fucked up the other ones. We lost that battle too ;_;
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>>125511203
>git gud
>the only consistent is you
>angel you're heavenly armor
>mad cause bad
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>>125511203

just wait until you're having an amazing game in the Matilda or whatever and out of nowhere, you explode with half your health gone and your tracks gone, and you wait another 5 seconds as you explode a second time and you die.

Thanks, WG, for the amazing addition of Artillery.
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>>125511518
What?
>>125511521
I don't know if it was arty that time, since I saw the shell coming at me on a flat trajectory, but yeah, thanks Wargaming for SPGs.
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Whats the best arty line? I want to make my opponents weep while I complete the artillery missions.
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>>125512445
the american ones are good tier 5 and up, british ones have great arks and the top tier has amazing alpha, the french are all really accurate and reload pretty fast as well as the tier 10 being an autoloader, russian arty is about big guns until tier 10 were it has fast accurate quick firing shells. the germans are pretty meh exept for the 5-7.

there really is no "best" arty line, they are all offer something a little different
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>arty
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>>125503302
>IS-3
>literally BL-9, fucking amazing turret
>IS-3 auto
>WWHY
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>>125513424
>wow a prem tank that isn't better than one of the best tanks at tier 8, what a rip off
what were you expecting, the IS-4 gun with 26rpm rate of fire?
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>Finally get Panzer III
>Nuked by SU-18 not even a minute into the match
Holy fucking shit you guys weren't joking.
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>>125514095
you completely missed the point
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>Hit by niggers I can't even see
>Not even rendering
Honestly I'm starting to feel the gameplay can't excuse itself, this is retarded.
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>>125514612
read the fucking wiki
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>>125514747
Fuck the wiki, m8.
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>>125514840
>I don't understand why the game doesn't let me snipe across the open maps at rendered tanks
>why would they add a system that gives light tanks meaning and heavily nerds tank destroyers
>what is rational thought

git gud, use cover and concealment. If you can't see them, go somewhere else, chances are they are TDs camping and they are not going to bend to your will and leave
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>>125515721
>WoT
>Rational thought
It's too arcadey for my tastes.
Look at WT, light tanks have use, and you can snipe those little faggots. De-rendering things and still allowing them to hit you is straight up retarded. Hurr hiding in a bush makes you completely invisible. It was also from across the map as well so that argument of yours is kinda moot. Had just left spawn and gotten maybe 5-600 meters from it and went over a sand dune and dropped to 20/200 health. Backed up behind the dune, turned a little and apparently the top of my turret was showing and I got nuked, was a T-28 hiding across the map. Guess I'll just go back to the semi-realistic at least less arcade-ey tank game. Probably gonna try again tomorrow.
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>>125514257
That line is really not recommended for new players, or even experienced ones.
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>>125517368
Panzer III MBT isn't an MBT here?
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>>125517473
It's a mediocre tier 4, and nearly everything after is average to below average. The Indian-Panzer and Leo1 are decent (maybe not so much in this meta anymore) but you have to deal with the gigantic POS that is the stock LeoPT.
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>>125517734
Jeez, and here I was looking forward to a Panzer III with the 50mm.
Guess I'll just play it in WT then.
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>>125517734
>pz.III
>mediocre
wow, how orange are you
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>>125517841
The gun is fine in-tier, the problem is tier 4 in this game scales horribly. Suddenly you get into tier 5 and you can't even pen the side of KV-1 without spamming APCR.
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I haven't played in a very long time, but I wanted to try playing again. I have 2 tier 6 tanks, the jagdpanzer iv and the VK 36.01, but I feel completely useless in every single game.

I thought I would like the german tanks, but I feel like I'm dying on the inside.

What should I do?
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>>125518027
dont play this shit game
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>>125517941
If you like losing money in tier 4, then sure it's alright.
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>>125517961
Pretty much you can decently combat Tier 4 and below but anything above and you'll be skirting death?
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Now that the Leopard PT A has been buffed, is it still inferior to the AMX 30?
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>>125518108
This makes me sad.
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>>125518027
Best option is to abandon this shit game before you can't wake up anymore.
Otherwise start the line that goes up to the IS-3, since it's the most noob friendly.
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>>125518323
yes
>>125518594
playerbase is more retarded than ever
and wg hasn't done a thing to improve the game

dont. play. this. shit. game.
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>>125518720
I wouldn't mind starting completely over with a new country, but would russia be the best choice for a new player? just for the IS-3?
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>>125518594
It may seem strange that we discourage new players in a dying general, but seriously this game isn't worth getting into at this point. It's been steadily losing players on NA for months now, dropping from 37k peak to around 20ish these days. I don't expect it to last another year on NA unless they do something drastic.
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>>125519016
Yes. The whole Soviet tree doesn't require any skill to play, and feel very comfy except the SPG line. The IS-3 line, passing through the KV-1, is good because it's the right mix of armor, mobility, firepower, and soviet bias. You can't go wrong.
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honestly playing this game just makes me stressed out and vaguely depressed because the playerbase is just the most risk adverse pants on head base camping useless pieces of dogshits, leaving you and the occasional other unicum to carry the burden of your 'teammates' pathological mental retardation.

the only fun you can have with this game is if you are shit and aren't aware of it.
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>>125519590
the object 416 soviet line looks a little awkward at least
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>>125519835
Is it just me or have multiplayer games gotten shitloads worse over the last couple years? I mean just went full retard?
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>>125520325
There are still good games out there. What's changed is the playerbase.
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>>125519325
EU and RU are both alive and kicking, I think on these two clusters WoT will live long and prosper for at least another 2~4 years, maybe more if WG gets illuminated by the Holy Spirit and stop fucking up everything, especially on the map design.

Newcomers are discouraged because we all know a casual shouldn't invest in this fucked up frustrating game, unless they really want to for their own reasons (e.g. They really love tanks and want to play with them at all costs), regardless of whether it's a dying game or not.

You have to keep in mind that WoT is still the best tank game on the market: I've tried WT:GF and while it's better under some points of view, deep inside it's much worse and much more fucked up on a development level than WoT; AW is DoA, and probably it will take the same time to get fixed and started up properly than for WoT to die on EU.
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>>125520525
That's what I mean, just didn't know how to word it. Hell War Thunder's playerbase has gone to absolute shit in the last year, barely anyone communicates, no real conversations anymore, the forum has always been almost USSR tier so that hasn't changed too much.
Look at Runescape, literally no one talks to eachother, though the game has went to shit as well.
Idk. it's depressing.
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>>125520717
I got the urge to play a MMORPG for a couple months a while back, and there were people everywhere yet nobody really talking beyond explaining game mechanics during bosses. Friendly chat with strangers seems to be a dead concept, and people only talk with their friends and clans. It's understandable to a degree though, as angry, autistic faggots quickly kill most people's incentive to use public chat for anything in any game. I eventually had to just turn off the public chat in WoT, it's so bad most of the time.
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>>125521657

no one has a reason to talk to anyone because you can sell and buy items between players without seeing a human being

apart from getting certain quests completed of course
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What are some clans that an average player can join and just dick around with strongholds and platooning?
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>>125510129
Chaffee
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Armored Warfare reporting for duty
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>>125523040
burger mbts reporting in
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>>125522634
Pzmoe and nofun
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>>125523040
I couldn't play AW for 2 weeks and played it for the first time again today. After 10 games I uninstalled AW because I couldn't get a same tier match in my tier 5s any more, as the entire playerbase seems to have moved on to tier 6 and 7.

I really hope they'll fix the game and put some pressure on WoT but right now I'm not seeing it.
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>>125522634
Join PZMOE for NA fun and NOFUN for EU games with SaWse
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>make niche game for niche playerbase
>what could possibly go wrong
AW in a nutshell
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC7Mn5DWEkA

If only the grind wasn't egregious I'd play this game.
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>>125523915
everyone went beast mode during the holloween because of x5 boost. now everyone is getting tier 6 or 7s easily
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Every day I wake up and my mind is blown by the fact that arty is still in this game. Truly ridiculous.
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>patch
>login
>this shit is now in my garage
>literal shit shovel on the side

...
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>>125523598
Ayyyyy

>>125523915
I had trouble running it initially too. Right now, yeah, it's in need of some changes fixes and overall polish, but the game is still young. WoT was unbelievably bad when it first came out. Does that make it an excuse for AW to be buggy? No, but AW does have some very good things going for it.
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>>125520120

You meant OP right?
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>>125528853
>WoT was unbelievably bad when it first came out.

The problem being it's not 2010/11 without any alternatives any more.

AW seems to be doing well enough in Russia but I don't see much of a future in the west by the way things are going atm.
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>>125504971
So the IS-3 auto is an IS-3 with faster shell velocity, premium tank status, but is slower and less accurate.

I don't understand, the dispersion is flat out worse than the IS-3, the only reason a faster shell would be useful would be to accurately fire at targets at longer ranges, which isn't a part of heavy tank brawling for one, and is negated by the less accurate gun...
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>>125533324
Shut up and buy it goy.
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>tfw playing buffed 113

WHERE MY CHINK BROS @

NADA HOO
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>>125536214
I have it unlocked but I don't see any advantage over the wz111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111-111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.

Didn't the 'buff' make the gun depression even worse?
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>>125536365

i love my wz 111 1 4 , and its still better tier for tier

the 113 is a lot better now tho, better ROF and 1 degree more depression
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>Patton KR not available for the civilized servers
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>>125538172
>Panzer 58 not available anywhere
Such is life in slav games.
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>vanilla wot
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nice try flanking my heavies, t34.
Nothing personal, kid.
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>>125539580
>camp
>get shat on by arty

When will they learn?
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>>125536214
>>125536365
I unlocked the 113 like a year ago but never bought it, is it actually worth getting now? I love the 1-4
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>>125540857
Unless you really want to have all tier 10s the tank still isn't worth it.
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>world of tanks north america down for maintenance
And so begins my career in armored warfare
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IS2 for sale on EU with passive BiA crew

only good thing since the rudy
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>HD T29

Noice
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>Thinking about buying premium tank x in WoT
>But I don't want to give the jews at wargaming my money
>Thinking about buying premium tank x in AW
>But I don't want to buy a tank I can't enjoy because the game is dead
>Thinking about buying premium tank x in WT
>But I don't want to give the double jews at Gaijin any money for a tank I can't enjoy because the game is dead

Why is there not a single decent online tank game around?
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>>125547260
because it's a niche market that WoT cornered years ago

WT made their version because they already had the dosh from airplanes, Obsidian is a triple A studio that can do whatever they want

any other game dev that actually gives a shit can't compete with WGs monopoly and AW crashing and burning six months after it came out doesn't help their confidence either
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>>125547260
because business decisions comes first at the expense of player experience
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>>125543193

I only hope its turret is the same
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WoT needs:
* +/-1 MM, ignore goy tears
* make 75% the base level of new crews, 100% training for creds, 50% of first skill for shekels
* remove arty (it's been years now, it's clear no one knows how to balance spgs in these games)
* rehaul equipment, half of that shit is useless
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>>125536214

flied lice reporting
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>>125549846
shit that'll never happen: the post
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http://strawpoll.me/6281683

Runoff vote from yesterday. Walker Bulldog and Chi-To were just too close to wrap it up there.
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>>125549908
>playing shit tanks without sixth sense when you have two full commander skills to use

absolute madman
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>>125550240
Cheeto for comfy, Bulldog for intense.
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Is it worth it to buy IS2 prem for credit making? I don't know the how big of a difference in cash income there is between t7 prem and t8. I fucking loved IS1, I felt really bad that I had to sell it to buy IS3.
It's either this, FCM 50t or IS6.
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>>125528737
Just another Vickers Med. The only benefit is this shit streak doesn't go all the way up to Tier III.
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People who play OI exp tripple platoons also love dongs.
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>>125549846
1. Not gonna happen.
2. May happen. Victor Kislyi has been pushing for changing the crew skill system to be more like WoWS. Personally I'd just love it if Recon/Sit Awareness got rolled up into just one +5% viewrange skill. Quite often you get tanks where commander is also radio op and it ruins the grind.
3. Nope. Although it will get eventually reworked to be more tolerable at hightiers someday.
4. Agreed. A lot of it just needs to be consolidated into one part. Like combining enhanced suspension with additional grousers.
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>>125549908
Why train a perk when you could train a skill, then switch to the perk when it hits 100%? Could be running Sit. Awareness or something in the meantime.
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>>125528853
> WoT was unbelievably bad when it first came out.
don't talk about shit you don't know
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>>125524429
also your new game's tanks are visually similar to each other
people bitched with T-34 and T-54 clones in WoT, but AW takes it to a whole new level
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>>125549846
>+/-1 MM
>wanting the most boring gameplay ever

>remove arty
>bushcamper detected
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>tier 9 JT has 100mm LFP armor
>tier 8 JT88 has 120mm LFP armor
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>want to play czech tanks
>have to go through the horror of tiers 1-8
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>>125551343
According to vbaddict the net income of the premium IS-2 is shit, and comparable to the one of the IS-6 (roughly 10k credits per battle).

The best moneymakers are the FCM 50 t, T34, AMX CDC, and the Löwe, not counting those you can't buy. The CDC is probably the one with the best cost/performance ratio, if you care ONLY about moneymaking (and not for instance to train a crew for a line you're interested in), but I suggest to not think about the costs and focus more to your preferences in playstyle since all the tanks I've mentioned earn approximately the same, but behave quite differently on the battlefield.
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>>125554607
there seriously are no good tanks on that line till tier 9 ?
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>>125551343
JT88 has the best credit income per game of any premium in the game, it should be on sale on EU soon if you really need a mad dosh printing machine and don't mind spending 50 euros
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>>125554910
Its mostly because of the playerbase

if you don't do atleast 10x your health in damage and carry the game its a 100% loss

atleast in my experience
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>>125554479
>arty prevents camping
I WANT THIS MEME TO END
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>>125554479
Super-tomato who doesn't know the pain of being focus targeted in every game regardless of tank detected.
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WoT Blitz is on PC now. Think of all the sealclubbing you can achieve!

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/games/world-of-tanks-blitz/9nblggh202h8
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>>125555035
This is just a meme: it earns as much as the other tier VIII premiums (without the IS-6), but it feels like driving a brick in the mud and it doesn't even have a turret, so once flanked you're as good as dead. DPM is insane, frontal armor is very good when hull down (except when people start slinging gold at you), and you can train crew for two German TD lines, though.
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czech this out
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>>125555404
AHAHAHAH xD top joke
*upboated*
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>>125500924
Fuck off /awg/ this is a /wotg/man thread.

Hows evetyone enoying their free Garage slot?
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>>125555383
i own most of the tier 8 prems including the type and the jt88 is by far the most profitable on average

if you like the fredi/normal JT the jt88 will feel the same mobility wise, you trade a high alpha gun for a low alpha with crazy rof and great accuracy

CDC is fun to play but arty will 1 shot you constantly if you stop for a moment and t49s will molest you

from the limited MM tanks you can grab now the IS6 is the best but wont earn aa much as the FCM or JT88

some people really love the fcm but i find it kinda bad
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>>125504971
sonictoddler pls go
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>>125555786
>free Garage
What ? The Toldi is out or something ?
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>>125555139
>To use this game, upgrade to Windows 10.
lol no
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>>125555139
what about wot generals on android?
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>>125556281
Sell your kolohouse
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https://sites.google.com/site/wowsskins/wot-downloads

I updated the Luchs model swap for the new HD model, everything else still works as is
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Should I sell the T1E6, T7 Combat Car, and the LTP?
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>>125556679
whats with you and model swaps
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>>125556816
what about it?
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>>125554910
desu senpai, all I want is the tiers 4-8, the 9 and 10 are just an afterthought to me
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why is this game so fun?
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>>125554889
Welp, then it's probably FCM 50t (and CDC to lesser extent, but I don't have French meds because 13 75 is too painful for me), I really like my Panther 2 and this tank looks pretty much like Panther 2 but with better mm.
>>125555035
I don't know if jtig8,8 would be good for me since I'm a hothead in this game, but I do actually have a ferdi (stock for now), I'm not very good at camping, Dicker Max is the only tank I can camp in because of the depression.
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>>125558095
because you like tanks, and are OK with sadistic russian devs
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>>125558109
you wont enjoy the fcm/cdc if you like to yolo rush since they only have hitpoints to keep you alive

IS6 seems to be the best tank for you
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>get back into wot after an on and off break since early July
>Y0L0 is now a top 10 clan
>PINGU and BULLS are dead
>HAVOK is back
>MAWHO is relevant

What the fuck happened?
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>>125558685
I'm more like front-line opportunist that can't rely on armor, I go aggro when I can out dpm my opponents in straight 1on1 (I really got a boner for this kind of thing since I started playing A43). I loved singling out is3 players and mauling them into submission in full-frontal 1on1.

I thought about IS6 but I still have nightmares when I first bought IS3 and had to fight heavies with 175 pen, don't know if I can deal with that cause I hate being defenseless due to bad pen.
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>>125558981
-G- is also dead, the times they are a changing
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>>125559106
-G- has been dead since long before I left, though
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>>125559327
>PZMOE less ded than -G-
since when
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>>125559557
I'm more surprised that Y0L0 got big. I was on a tourney team with a few Y0L0 guys last spring and it was fucking cancer. There was a girl on the team and someone jokingly said "tits or gtfo" and they all sperged out.

I am genuinely confused how that irrelevant light blue clan became a top 10 clan. I guess we are truly in the wotlabs generation.
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>>125559093
you do you f@m, but you literally cant go wrong with getting an IS6
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>>125560436
So, if I meet and enemy is3 while driving is6, either aim for the flat surface above gun or get rekt?
And most likely I can go fuck myself when t54 drives in front of me.
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/wotg/ could really use some kind of flowchart image to spoonfeed people on what tier 8 premiums to get depending on what they want (crew training, credits, etc).
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>>125560771
It's not worth spending time and efforts in making it.
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>>125560641
pref MM premiums arent soposed to be as good as the standard tanks, and IS3 is a bad example because its the strongest veichle in the game tier for tier

IS6 has amazing armor and great dpm, if you are top tier you absolutely shit on lower tiers and tier 8 mediums

gun is inaccurate and has a long aim time but this is irrelevant when you are city brawling
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>>125559949

Jesus tapdancing christ.

In game and on the general forums these fucking memers greentext and no one calls them out on their bullshit.

Server transfers need to happen.
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>not WZ-120
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>>125560771
Tryhard statpadding tier:
FCM 50t
IS6
Super Pershing

Workhorse multi-utility tier:
IS3A
IS5
T34
Type 59
T54 Prototype

Play for fun tier:
KV5
CDC
Panther 8.8
STA-2
8.8 Jadgtiger

More money than sense tier:
112
WZ111
Lowe
59 Patton
M4A1 Revalorise
T-34-3
Kanonenjagdpanzer
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>>125562029
>not WZ-111-11-1-111111-1-111-11--11--1-1-11--1-14
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>>125562178

But T-34-3 is good
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>>125562178
>Tryhard statpadding
spershing
>workhorse multi utility
try carrying in those shit tanks
out of all the tanks there the IS6 is easily the best "workhorse" that will carry games most often.
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>>125562178
type should be in the statpad tier and t34-3/59fatton should go in the workhorse tier with the recent buffs
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>>125562178
>JT88
>for fun
WHAT?
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>>125562312
lukefas pls
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>>125562604
>type is a statpadder tank

this meme should have died two years ago but it's still around, why is this?
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>>125562820
it's on par with regular tier 8 meds, yet it has preferencial MM
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>>125562820
because its easy to farm wn8 in it, not because the tank is op
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>>125562938
that can be applied to every pref mm tank except the lowe, I don't know how a fundamental element of the game mechanics can trigger people so much

the type is seriously mediocre besides the armor, and the t54 p. one-upped it there as well
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>>125562687
it has its moments
in city maps
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>>125563112
Undoubtly
not every city map
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>>125563072
Lowe doesn't have pref, neither does the T-54 mod 1.
If you don't understand how a tank with performance similar to its peers becomes a statpadding tank with pref MM then I can't help you.
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Why is the T32 so best?
>amazing turret armor
>solid dpm for a tier 8 heavy
>amazing gun depression
>decent hull armor capable of bouncing shots
>tracks eat shots so sidescraping is possible
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>>125558981
CW 2.0 killed a lot of the former top clans. Between SH grind burnout and no longer being able to sit on 10k gold a day doing nothing, a lot former top clans either quit or turned into tournament clans since the payouts are now far better.

The remaining 'top' clans are just clans that took in all the refugees who were still braindamaged enough to want to grind SH non-stop for a few scraps of gold.

Most of the legitimately good players have moved on, and NA top is infested with rerolls and padders now.
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>playing without mods

I can't handle this
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>>125563823
I remember the hype around CW 2.0 after the last campaign, which killed the game for a lot of people in PLSGO

Did it really flop that badly
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>>125563902
OMC modpack is already updated with everything that's necessary.
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>>125563964
having tier 6-8-10 fronts was a good idea, pretty much everything else is dumb
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>>125564000
aslain and kriegstreiber too
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>>125510882
>>125511058
I still miss when the T-50 was a drift machine. Thing could literally go from a standstill to drifting in .5 seconds.
And of course reminiscing about this also reminds me the T-50-2 is ded. ;_;
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>>125563964
It requires non-stop SH grind for influence points, while the gold rewards are a LOT less. As >>125564093 said, having tier 6 and 8 zones were a good idea since you no longer have clans demanding 6 meta tier Xs to join; but that's it. Well, it got G and PBKAC to shut down so some good came of it.
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>>125518195
The Pz III firing AP is basically a light tank with no gun in T5/6 games, you can't pen anything ever.
The Pz III firing APCR is a fucking speedy DPM machine that I regularly use to carry tier 6 games hard, definitely my favourite T4 when you throw credits at it.
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>>125564442
If only G/PBKAC and other basically idling clans died a year ago the high end scene would have more life.
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>>125564515
The 5cm gun is really bad balance. 67 AP pen is not enough against most tier 5+ tanks, yet it almost doubles and becomes a great gun with APCR.
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Working on a new line on patch day probably wasn't the best idea. Seriously who are these subhumans?
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>>125564745
Yeah, clans taking up huge amounts of map space; but never doing anything and everyone being afraid to attack them. There was some justice though when that civil war event happened, and everyone realized all those pubstars in G had forgotten how to play as a team. They tried to pretend they were 'still a top 5' clan after that, and then like a month later they shut down for good rather than become a complete laughing stock. It's the legacy they deserved.
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>>125564442
It also managed to kill CHAI as a CW clan.

Which is probably a good thing because those chinks were closer to a mob than anything else on NA.

>>125565218
A big problem right now on NA is that all the top clans that are left are pretty undesirable to be in.
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>>125554910
The T5 is about average, and the T8 looks fun. T7 is a shitpile, and the T6 is just absolutely outclassed by everything it's tier. If the T6 could hit anything it'd be pretty good, but as-is it's a massive armorless slow tank that turns like a TD and aims like a cromwell, but without the cromwell's lucky RNG.
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>>125565374
>A big problem right now on NA is that all the top clans that are left are pretty undesirable to be in.
Only the most bully/toxic personalities make it to the top.

That said: fuck Otter
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>>125565374
Isn't BULBA still pretty much the same as before? CHAI seems dead to me after seeing a green player in there a few days ago.
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>>125565635
Fuck OTTER and fuck allurai
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>>125565691
CHAI died a long time ago after they became an ARK survival clan. League just sealed their fate.
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>>125565691
Bulba is even deader than before.

>>125565635
Nobody will argue about otter. They're just making NA's death quicker at this point.

Anyway, most of the laid-back purples, either in clans or unaffiliated, have left the game at this point. No idea if anybody is planning to come back but only have spergs to play with made me stop as well.

And seeing what these faggots are actually like by reading their posts on faglabs. That also really made me want to leave the na community.
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>>125565691
Bulba is a retirement home.
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>>125562193
>mfw my medium tank has a heavy tank gun, along with T-54 turret faggot shenanigans
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>tfw the /vg/ clans are dead now
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>>125500924
w-who /AW/ here ?
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>>125566552
>he still plays that game
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>>125566552
>Entire mid tiers revolve around MBT-70s shitting on non-goy tanks
Lel, no. Not gonna waste my time on that.
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>>125566310
PZMOE INNER CIRCLE still plays.
Apart from the ones who are rip.
>>125566552
I really like playing the TDs in it, but at tier 5/6 everything becomes such a grind, and MBTs become goddamn impenetrable for everyone except other MBTs. I'd still play it occasionally, just haven't for the last week or two because of exams and other games getting updates.
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>>125562178
>Tryhard statpadding tier:
>Super Pershing
What happened ? I played it just before it could be sold for gold and had like 34% WR
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>>125566101
T10 is best heavyum
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>>125566786
>PZMOE INNER CIRCLE still plays.
Would pzmoe be worth joining if I pick up the game again?

>>125566859
They undid the armor nerfs and kept the mobility buffs.
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>>125566859
shoot pure gold and you farm wn8 like crazy
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>>125566552
get the fuck out
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>>125566310
NOFUN is alive
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Anyone get a T40? It's in-game on on sale for 30% off now, so it seems like it might be worth it now.
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>>125567197
Well that's because the EU server is still alive, NA is as dead as before, except the /vg/ players were replaced with wotlabs and reddit trash
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>>125566927
We do boxes around once a week, and you can usually find a platoon going most of the time (usually either T6 plat or T8/9). We're still NA, though, so dead as fuck compared to any EU clam.
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>>125567720
Hmm, I wouldn't have dared to ask for me. It's kinda sad how quickly NA WoT has gone down the drain in 2015.

I remember being really excited when we had 1 or 2 weekends with more than 50k players only. 100k or even more seemed so close back then.
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>1,1k exp is ace
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>>125568275
It's always easy to get aces on the first day.
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>>125564515
>>125564749
So pretty much just grind dosh if I want to use it to its fullest potential?
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>>125567925
They ignored the obvious signs of bleeding and now it's nearly beyond repair IMO. I think a well done PvE mode would help a lot, but
>WG
>well done
Not to mention they apparently still think Rampage mode is worth keeping around even after the rigging fiasco.
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I haven't played WoT since a year.
Got the 7 day premium return back thingie dingie thing.

There are a lot of missions available now that I've never done, I already have 10 million credits but should I focus on doing all the missions anyway?
And are any of the new tank trees any good? Like the Japanese heavy?
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>>125568624
Yeah, basically.
Pz III is a carrying and WN8 printing machine, but it usually costs me like 10-20k per game to run it, since you need to load like 20+ APCR rounds, and will usually fire them all if bottom tier.
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>>125568816
WN8?
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>>125568764
there's new high tier light tanks everywhere. not sure if they've power creeped shit like T71 and WZ-132 out of the game.
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>>125568501
My experience is pretty much the opposite.
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>>125568996
T54 ltwt powercrept t8 lights/meds.
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>>125568730
I was surprised by how little people cared when the mid-level and feeder clans started crumbling. It was obvious it would only by a matter of time until the top clans would start to run out of players to replace people going inactive for one reason or another.
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Is there any reason to keep the Leo PT A after I've got The Leo 1?
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>>125569620
Yes, it's called masochism.
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>>125568996
I guess I'll just continue on what I already have and siemka
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>>125568867
Statpadder term, it's a shitty algorithm that's supposed to roughly correspond to how gud a player is in tanks. Certain tanks that most people play badly, but are really good if played a certain way will boost the fuck out of your WN8 and make you look like a unicum to XVM users. It's how most of the unicutes get purple in the first place.
>>125568764
The Charioteer is great, the new lights are GOAT (specifically the M41 bullydog, LTTB, T-54LT, and Ru 251), and the AMX 30 is also amazing (finally a second contender for best T9, along with the T-54).
>>125568996
They did powercreep the FUCK out of the T71 and WZs, but thankfully the WZs got buffed enough that they're still fun and competitive. T71 is still just an M41 that's worse in most ways, but the T71 at least has a few things over the bullydog now that it's been buffed again.
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wait, why do I want a T71 instead of a bulldog?
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>>125569906
Is the AMX 30 better than the Batchat? I only have French heavies right now but could always try some French meds
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>>125569918
You don't. The T71 does do slightly better work on like 2 maps, due to I think traverse speed, reload speed, view range, etc. But the majority of the time, the bulldog is just a better option.
>>125569620
Sell it and get an AMX 30. It's just a protoleo without any of the downsides, plus bouncy armor.
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>>125569906
>The Charioteer is great
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>>125569906
>>125570092
T71 looks kind of ok, I'm more concerned about my WZ-132, what the shit do I want this for instead of the bias ltwt?

>rus thing has bullshit turret armour
>wz has 0 armour everywhere, but you get +10 view range :^)
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>>125570091
AMX 30 is my favourite T9, but the AMX 30B is basically the same tank a tier up, so it's not very special at tier 10. Also the batchat isn't really comparable gameplay-wise to any other T10 med, except maybe the new czechnology.
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>>125569906
>finally a second contender for best T9, along with the T-54

nah f@m the holy trinity is:
E50 as god almighty
M46 as gods right hand
T54 as the left hand

all others can fuck off
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>Lakeville
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>>125570636
is a pretty good map
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>not WZ-120
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>>125570276
T-54LT powercreeps everything, the WZ-132 isn't affected specifically. The 132 got buffed hard the last couple patches, though, so it's competitive with the Ru 251 at least.
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>>125570636
>Pondtown
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>>125563795

But

>Muh IS-3

If the IS-3 didn't exist the T-32 would be in its place. Especially now that gold rounds for credits exist.
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>>125564745

I used to think PBKAC was the most cancerous clan around

But now I've encountered BULBA, YOLO, MAHOU, and the other meme clans that popped up to the top. I was wrong. I can't imagine what kind of turds wait at the bottom to float up if these clans die.
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>>125565125

I'm going to roll face in my newly purchased rudy this weekend. Can't wait.

Maybe the Czechs will water down the overabundance of bromwells and OIs.
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>>125571827
those clans are the final stage in the clan evolution, think of it as the cretaceous period for dinosaurs

now we just have to wait for the meteorite to kill them off once and for all, maybe it'll be the upcoming NA campaign
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wtf is with the mongolians on NA
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>>125571827
problem is the newly acquired BR market isn't spawning quality leadership or players so any semblance of the 'next gen top clan' is pretty much nonexistent, meaning that if the current top clans die it's literally game over for the high end scene on NA. timmy the turboshitter turned blue wanting to join a high end clan will either have the option of 45th armor of literally who or BR scumfucks to choose from if these current tops die.

they are literally too big to fail and minsk doesn't give a fuck about giving na a bailout package.
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>>125566786
>MBTs become goddamn impenetrable for everyone except other MBTs
>laughing_BMDs
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>y-you'll see when AW comes out everyone will leave wot!
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>tier V players on my team
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i lol'd
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>>125573779

Why aren't the reindeers pz1cs or some other small meme tank?
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>>125572363
>NA is losing players!!!
>Let's replace them with BRs
>NA players aren't spending as much as they used to
>Oh noes, nobody could see that coming
>Eh, let's just shut down the server
I hope they'll at least have the decency to let the players choose which server the want to transfer to.
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>>125574767
Forced ̶c̶o̶l̶l̶e̶c̶t̶i̶v̶i̶z̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ migration to RU server tovarish)))))))))))
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>>125570605
oh I thought you meant the tier 10. I guess I might try out the AMX 30 tier 9 one day
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What mods do people run nowadays?
I used to have Jimbos, xvm mini map and the large garage list.

Are the in-built stuff good nowadays or do I still want a crosshair and mini-map mod?
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