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>Endless Legend User Manual
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467

>Endless Legend wikis
http://endless-legend.wikia.com/wiki/Endless_Legend_Wiki
http://endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Free Civ
https://play.freeciv.org

>/civ4xg/ Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/civ4xg

>Civilization V CIVILOPEDIA Online:
http://www.dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
>A couple other Civ resources:
http://www.civfanatics.com/
http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Civilization_Games_Wiki

>Civilization V Analyst, with all the specifics of mechanics you'll ever need
http://well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html

>Civilization V Roulette
http://www.dropshock0.com/civ/

>Civilization V Drafter
http://georgeskleres.com/civ5/

>CivFanatics' Strategy and Tips forum, good guides and information.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=391 -

>Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot, lets you play Civ V's hot seat mode like an e-mail game
http://www.multiplayerrobot.com

>Civ V Modding Wiki
http://modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page

>Civ V Mod databases
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930 (requires legit version)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393 (does not)

>SMAC & SMAX official short stories
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cn11q7nqa00te/Alpha_Centauri

>Age of wonders 3 wiki
http://age-of-wonders-3.wikia.com/wiki/Age_Of_Wonders_3_Wiki

>age of wonders 3 beginners guide
http://aow.triumph.net/beginners-strategy-guide/

>age of wonders 3 Data base (more useful than wiki)
http://aow3db.tumblr.com/index

>age of wonders 3 city tech tree
http://i.imgur.com/d8EqN4A.jpg

>age of wonders 3 dwelling tech tree
http://i.imgur.com/qd2u9ui.jpg
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Rollin'
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Is >Age of wonders 3 still online?
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Fuck sake, with Civ 5, is there no way to re-enable edge scrolling when you're using Borderless Windowed Mode?
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DEAD THREAD

DDDDEEEEAAAADDDD.

/civ4xg/ on suicide watch.
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>>125386674
Such is life.
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>>125382480

What? What does that even mean?
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I've played a few hours of Endless Legends, and damn, its kicking my ass. Seems like the other factions get tons of strategic resources and I get nothing. I'm really having fun
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>>125391364

EL handles differently than a fair number of 4x. For example, the resource cost of techs is based on tier and how many techs you've already got (Not just researched, trading for tech increases this too). So while you can scoop up a bunch of lower tier techs easily, that can bite you in the ass and the gud gittingest way of going about it is just researching the required amount of tech for each tier. Which means knowing what your strategy is going to be and focusing on it.

Doesn't really have much to do with the strategic resources but thought I'd bring it up.
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>>125386674
NOT YET WE AINT
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/kspg/ reporting, our offer still stands
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I sad, this general is dead, and I just started enjoying EL. Even if I don't understand the Necrophange
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>>125397659
Necrophage are about surviving the early game, accumulating a huge army via proliferators vs independents then steamrolling everyone else.
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Christ, playing on the newest Beta of the Community Patch and the City State of Mombassa, while dragged into a war on behalf of their ally, went and captured themselves one the the enemies cities.

This shit is way better, they even send out hunting parties of their own to take out Barb camps that are causing them issues.

All hail our new CS overlords.
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>>125398894
>they even send out hunting parties of their own to take out Barb camps that are causing them issues

But muh quest. Muh quest.
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>>125402672
Better get on it in a timely manner if you want to earn that influence then.
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I think the people who made Age of Wonders 3 should make a challenge to Kek Meier Civilization just like they do with their underground layer but instead turn it into an orbital layer.
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If Civ:BE was a better game this thread would still be alive. Fucking Firaxis.
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>>125406401
Amplitude x Firaxis porn when?
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I would've paid for an XCOm scenario towards the late game kind of like next war for Civ IV.

but no Firaxis had to give us a turd that is Civ BE without a fucking world builder.

-_______-
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People who take forever on their turns are the worst.
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>>125398342
Now is the food bonus on pacified villages or pacified villages in territory you control?
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>>125408774
In your territory.
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page 10 already, BE really killed civ generals
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>>125386560
I remember someone saying the Borderless Gaming program works with CIV. You can either buy it on Steam for $3.99 or download it for free since it's open source. Juts Google it and you'll see the link.
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>American culture victory in the year of our lord and savior 1890
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So, is it just me or do forgotten have really shitty units?

I mean, I enjoy pillaging the hell out of the AI, but the moment I pillage a player they'll be knocking on my door in order to take me out.

It's not like you can exactly be stealthy with them when everyone knows your the stealthy race.
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You niggas should be hyping Master of Orion
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>>125422680
Are you not using Mysts?
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>>125425317

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh. They haven't shown anything decent thus far. More reason to be hyped for ES2.
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>>125391364
strategic acclimation favors wide, luxury accilmation favors tall and using the market
look around when you settle, and possibly raise it in the world gen. settling a region with 3 titanium and no luxuries could be pretty beneficial depending on your game
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>>125415379
I just stopped posting, sorry about that
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>AI offers DoF
>sure, whatever, they seem trust worthy
>next turn they start shit with one of my city state allies
>don't take their shit, nobody fucks with my sphere of influence
>next turn they denounce me
>denounce them back
That was a short lived friendship.
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How to git gud? I've tried BE:Water and I'm pretty hooked, but I feel like I'm doing everything wrong. I could survive on the second easiest difficulty level exploring and expanding and building every city improvement in every city until I could either get tech victory or destroy enemy civilizations in a single turn.

While it worked when I was exploring basic mechanics, I'm sure/hope it won't hold up on higher difficulty levels. Now I could just ramp it up and try to manage, but playing even a single map is pretty time consuming, so I'd love if there were some kind of strategy resource that I could read instead of blindly trying different approaches.
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>>125378142
So uh, since I have no idea in which general this belongs and the game kinda feels like a 4x, does anyone know how to make reasonable amount of money in X3: TC? I just started and at the rate this is going I will play with one lousy transport ship for hours on end, without achieving anything meaningful. Tips?
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what's the best 4x game for android?
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Okay I'm playing the CBP for the first time

Advice?
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>>125417363
>You can either buy it on Steam for $3.99 or download it for free since it's open source.
Steam in a nutshell
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Age of Wonders drei is pretty fun, cant help but feel like 4x lacks strategic depth, but the tactical gameplay involving the actual battles is pretty fun
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>>125453116
I disagree
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>>125445659
Is this your first time playing a civ game?

Here are some general Civ tips:
1) Play the AIs off one another. If you feel like an invasion is coming then pay either another AI to start a war.
2) I'm not sure how well it works in BE, but in CiV it was best to specialize cities. Like focus one on science and build all the science percent bonus buildings first and have another city that is more about gold and trade routes.
3) Always max out your number of trade routes. Never go more than a few turns with one or two less trade routes than is your max.
4) Overcome the psychological barrier when playing on a higher difficulty. It may feel like you are losing but you really aren't. On the really high difficulties you are supposed to be behind most of the game.
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>>125406401
Don't put all the blame on Firaxis. Others and I liked BE and were perfectly willing discuss it and carry on the momentum of previous civ titles. But every time assblasted anons would shitpost "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE". Now the momentum is gone.
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>>125458136

on which part? I just think civ5's civilian management is better.
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>fighting/movement sounds glitch out and continue playing until I exit the game
fuck the CBP, why can't someone come up with something to fix THIS
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Bump so the thread lives long enough for me to finish my test
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>>125432363
Master of Orion is going to be the greatest 4x ever and you all going to talk about it.

It has something 4x games don't dare to do anymore: Animated leaders! Now post more MOO /civ4xg/ or die like a dog.
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>>125463896
>Animated leaders!

Well you've got me there.
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I currently have both Endless Legend and Star Ruler in my backlog. Which one should I start playing, and is best to play on a laptop (no mouse)?
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>try and go wide
>fucking barbarians everywhere
>sacking trade routes, luxury resources, or scaring workers

fucking cunts
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Do dead religions ever dissappear or do I have to constantly send missionaries to Japan to make sure their religion is dead?
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>>125469620
As long as Japan remains in the game, they can faith purchase missionaries in their capital iirc.

Religions/Holy Wars were more fun in Civ4.
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This arms race has been going on for the entire game. Me and this other guy just keep pumping out ships and weapons upgrades, it's up to 200,000 now. Nobody else is even relevant.
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>>125468272
Star Ruler is an RTS, so Endless Legend if you can run it
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>>125470156

How does one get rid of a holy city/limit it? I just fucked Jakarta in the boypussy but its the hindu holy city and my religion is the one of birds. I only need bird religion to be the dominant one in the city, dont need to eradict it, but its influence will out compete my own religion since the holy city is so far away. Do I need a grand temple at one of the other cities nearby?
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>>125480028
Conquer it then use one of your inquisitors on it. As long as one follower exists in the city, it will emit pressure, so you have to wipe it out. Also, if there is pressure from other cities, it may convert one citizen in Jakarta which will bring it back to holy city status.
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>>125481491

So I would have to save up inquisitors and bomb all the cities?
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>>125482625
Or use a GP
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>>125418886
>playing as Germany and having 3 tall Arabic cities join you because of your tourism and Arabia unhappiness
800,000
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Anyone have a general approach for a strategy to the forgotten in EL?
I cant quite figure out when I should be going hard into pillaging with a hero and keeping them at home.
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>>125485224
Get your memes up to date, it's over 1,000,000 this year already

:^)
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/civ4xg/!
It lives!
It dies!
It lives again!
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>>125487440
Just keep buying good heroes, especially forgotten heroes.

Keep pillaging the fuck out of everybody.

Use Mysts for your army.

Attempt to mimic dosh lords for dosh but still need to eat food.

Pay attention to your influence since it is used for infiltrating heroes into cities and using spying actions.
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>>125406826
>Amplitude porn
But there is.
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>>125458687
Mea culpa. It was out of love for SMAC and outrage at what Firaxis did to its legacy.
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>>125490728
Thanks. Anyone else got any good advice? Still fairly new to this game, and struggle on Hard difficulty.
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>>125378142
Any good let's plays for BERT up yet?
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Should I give Endless Legend another chance or try Endless Space?
I seriously don't remember what made me uninstall it in first place.
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>>125415379
Can BE even be saved at this point, Civ5 needed BNW to become universally recommended and fun.

>>125463896
Any word from the developer when MoO will come out? Are they targeting late 2016?
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>>125500146
another chance
unless you REALLY like the universe they built, or really like spess, ES is just less of a game than EL is
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>>125492192
Use how much control you have over your techs to make cheap settlers before advancing to a new era.
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>Playing on emperor
>Going Darius Wide liberty-Piety
>Catherines next to me
>she gets the tundra bonus and out competes me for the entire giant island we're on together
>she builds the grand temple before me since I have 10-15 cities
>every city of mine goes catherine
>finally get the piety +1 faith from shrines and temples
>Start banking on inquisitors in most of my cities connected directly to my capital
>finish my own grand temple
>flip half my empire back
>Unity of the prophets+religious spread keeping them under my control
>going to take the 3-4 cities that are adjacent to the russians so I can finally worship birdbros

this is a comfy feel when I get rid of christboos
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Death is overrated
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For my initial settle, what order should I prioritize mountain/river/coast in?
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>>125524658
1. coast - could be a nice trade route hub
2, river - hydro plant and gardens
3. mountain - that wonder you get with railroads
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>>125524658
It depends. But generally mountains>rivers>coast. But a bunch of different factors can change this.
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anyway i can disable this

i know i could look in the enhUI thread but i would be reading for 30minutes to find this specific thing, because i dont know what its name is or what to call it.
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why do pathfinders upgrade to comp bowmen from weapon ruins
normal bowman i understand but composite breaks the game if you have enough ruins around you
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how good/bad of a decision did i make by settling here?
and should i settle again near that city state and take some of their tiles?
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>>125489618

WITNESS ME DRAKKEN
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>>125533882
Update the fucking EUI, you idiot.
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>>125536547
not bad, unless Gandhi doesn't like you, then you're just getting nuked easier. I'd settle another a little close to Bogotá and get their influence.
though you made that post 2h ago and probably already restarted
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What is the highest Dust Income you guys have ever had in Endless Legend?
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>civ4 is a dead game
>everyone else has moved on to V
>you'll never play awesome multiplayer games on a game with superior mechanics and mods
>any mention of 4 will get the "le stacks xd" meme thrown at you
>all you have of the pinnacle of turn based gaming now is memories
>all the modders toiling away on projects like rise of mankind and caveman2cosmos are basically unknown, and only augment a dead game out of sheer love, like a widow refusing to see her husband pass
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>>125548036
>deathstacks meme makes you too sad to play a videogame
>better post frog otherwise no one will upvote
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>>125549249

I don't think he's saying it makes him too sad to play, it just makes him too sad to post about it. The doomstacks meme is pretty stupid admittedly. I've run in to the carpet of death in 5 and BE a hell of a lot more than serious doomstacks in 4.
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>>125446687

I'd try Star Citizen or Elite (If it exists, since Horizons launched I assume it does) generals. You might get an X player here but you'd be much more likely in one of those. I would guess more likely Elite because Star Citizen nerds seem to say "Wing Commander!!!!!!!!!!!!" and then have never actually played Wing Commander or any other space game and still spend $20,000 on Star Citizen.
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>>125549974
honestly, i hated cultural borders in 4, its why i dont play. and while doomstacks are... doomy, i feel like managing massive carpets over large distances is far more annoying than a single stack
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>>125550393

You'll have to remind me what the differences are between the cultural borders in 4 and 5, been long enough since I played 4 I don't remember them being significantly different other than (At least from my memories) being easier to absorb neighboring cities with culture.
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>>125550527
specifically, that each plot of land has a culture counter, and that you can take/have stolen land, based on culture production. more times than not it lead to annoying city captures one way or another, or borders just looking retarded because of forward settling

sure its easier to absorb neighboring cities
you know, if you actually want them
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should we migrate back to /gsg/?
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>>125548036
>Civ4 Colonisation with R&R
>playing Huge Americas Scenario as Russia so I don't have to deal with other colonies early on
>5 gold and 2 silver inland Alaska
>2 gold in Southern California
>pearls in Galapagos Islands
>producing 50 gold/turn in mid-1500s
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How to git gud at civ4? I suck at it and can only win by war.
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