>What is Devilian
A ARPG MMO, think Diablo but with MMO stuff thrown in.
>Is it pay to win
Not exactly. There are proficiency reset items but you can buy all the marketplace items with in game currency unless that was changed after beta.
>Classes
There are four classes currently and they are character locked so if you wish to be a gunner you'll have to play as a loli.
Berserker class for your melee rip and tear.
Shadowhunter class for dickass rogue.
Evoker for big tittied mage.
Cannoneer for the loli gunner.
>End game
There's plenty to run dungeon wise and such to get all kinds of gear and grinding out.
There's also 2 types of pvp: 20v20 where lots of people duke it out and 3v3 for the smaller arena type of fights.
>Main Page
http://www.trionworlds.com/devilian/en/
Current starting server can be Asperon.
And two more classes in the feature. So there is a chance for some kind of summoner.
source:
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2015-08-07/devilian_online_new_class_kyran_feature_preview_1.shtml
Also, op could add wiki to copy-pasta:
http://devilian.gamepedia.com/Devilian_Wiki
>Guilds - Ctrl+B to search
[NA Asperon] NoFunAllowed
contact on tox if you can't get around the f2p limitations: 5A6BDA0B4B94EB57092AF4D0DDF85FD7FAE79A89E55958B1C6EEFBE92786BB0E852AA2460413
https://github.com/tux3/qTox
https://tox.chat/
the tutorial tooltips or whatever said if I ran a dungeon 3 times I would get a gem box, I did it, got an achievement and all but no gem box. Was it a ruse or I'm dumb and there's something I'm missing?
>>125085972
I think it might be a ruse. I read that also but haven't seen anything special for the 3 run achieve.
Someone is making a discord group for nfa.
>>125088557
Right should probably post it here.
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ00t001
Game dead.... or nah?
Also curious what's the f2p limits?
What the fuck is the game asking me to do?
I already ran an arena and won, but there's another daily shit that requires "Arena completed once" and "Single Arena Victory", what am I supposed to do? there's only 1 type of pvp available to me as well, so I have no idea if I'm supposed to do some other kind of pvp.
>>125090681
not sure desu, they really should add some tooltip text for the dailies
It's a complete joke if you try to gauge it simply as an ARPG. PoE, Grim Dawn, even D3 offer several times more character and loot customization options than this. But just as OP states it's an MMO-ARPG so there's more to the game than just that. Also, reaching the peak seems way more grindy than in games mentioned above. So far for me it's 'isometric-view-Tera-with-more-action'.
>>125088960
>>125088960
>>125088960
There is now a discord for all the babbies afraid to try tox:
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ00t001
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ00t001
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ00t001
>>125091540
I wish some day people will learn to review a game for it's merits without having to compare it to others, specially meme games who have been already played to death by anyone who gives a shit about them.
It's a novelty anon, it's quick paced, you level super fast, it doesn't need a super heavy investment or commitment, or some ultra nerd min/maxing, it's actually more like mobile game with very very polished mechanics (card shit, daily friend gifts etc)
Speedrunning dungeons feels cool, actually whenever I don't get an S I run it again just for fun. The pvp while basic it's better than Diablo 3 pvp or PoE pvp if you're going to start comparing things side to side...
I play a lot of f2p shit and know this isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ, but I don't know what people are expecting, and it's not like Lost Ark or Lineage Eternal are going to be playable anytime soon.
If you're going to compare it to other games you might as well consider other generic isometric Korean trash like ELOA, this is definitely way better than ELOA, except for maybe the class variety and having no healers (which is in fact something good to me)
>>125089470
>Game dead.... or nah?
Yeah, I think so.
Saw 2 people in the starting village, but that was at like 1 -2am.
>Also curious what's the f2p limits?
No auction house
No whispering to non-friends
No megaphone (don't know if party/guild chat is limited too?)
And there's a heal pet you can't get, other than a 1/3 chance for a 15 day one every 25 days.
>>125091540
>isometric-view-Tera-with-more-action
>Tera
>-with-more-action
Plays nothing like TERA, only has it's art style and models.
It's less action packed than TERA.
>>125095201
Thanks, just gave it 30 minutes with my friend and honestly it doesn't seem great. I'm normally not a huge fan fo Trion anyway (they jewbackked the shit out of me on another game), was hoping since this looked like it would be ARPG-ish it would be good, but especially with it's timing, it feels like it's better to just play some PoE.
Will we make it through the night?
So are the melee classes gimped?
Is there much difference between Evoker and Cannoneer? but look strong, but can't really tell who is better just from videos.
Sharing patron beneffits for those wondering what you get out of the pay2win monthly fee.
http://www.trionworlds.com/devilian/en/2015/12/02/devilian-patron-status-benefits-arrive/
Across all characters, Patrons gain:
• +25% EXP & Devil Souls from kills in Fields, Rifts, and Dungeons and +25% Dungeon Clear EXP
• +1 additional Attendance point at login
• Additional Attendance point reward options
• Remote Warehouse / Auction House Access
• +1 Free spin for Dungeon Roulette after completing a dungeon
• Auction House Bonus:
Reduced Auction Item Sale Fee
Remove Auction Item Registration Fee Waiver – Free mistakes!
Auction House Inventory Expansion – 50 total items can be registered to Auction House
• 10% discount on purchases made with Credits, Gold, and non-event Tokens
• 10 Second Recall Cooldown
• +1 Extra Skill Page
In addition to the above, every day Patrons can claim the following rewards on one character of choice:
• Patron Lucky Box which includes:
10 Archgemstones
Talisman Lucky Box
Potion Box (Awards level-appropriate Potions)
5 Dungeon Bonus Potions
Patron Status will be available in our store through Founder’s Packs and as subscriptions after Head Start. We can’t wait to see all of you devils at launch on December 10!
Why did they have to include shitty MMO-style fetch quests? They could have just structured the game like Path of Exile and the game would be 100 times better
Reward for blue enigma box at level 52...
>>125099623
hello anyone?
c'mon anons could use some input
>>125103217
I'm actually not sure myself. I'd say yes just because most melee classes ing ames are gimped and evoker seems to have so much CC and such.
>>125103217
You should play it and find out. Every class is viable. Evoker and Cannoneer are different. Melee do fine.
>>125103831
Yeah but there's only 2 character slots, I can't just yolo it and play them all.
>>125103831
woa you can get this shit from dungeons
I wonder what other cash shop stuff you can find, or could I be I just got ultra lucky and it will never happen again?
>>125106123
you wont get inventory expansions. warehouse is the best you can get.
>>125106123
>>125106280
on second thought, it says it restricts my account warehouse access? so it's a trap? or it's just some bad translation?
>>125106352
That really is odd wording. There's two warehouses and it's saying your account wide one will be locked out so you'd be stuck only using your drops for this character only on that character. So if you plan on doing alts and moving things around, don't use it. Otherwise you'd be good.
I got to level 20 as evoker and the five skills in each tree appear to be:
1. resource spender
2. CC skill
3. AOE damage, longish CD skill
4. personal buff / aura
5. "ultimate" long CD skill
This is the same in all three trees. Spending points in the skills appear to either lengthen their effects, increase their damage, or decrease their cooldowns.
Could someone higher level please tell me there's more? I was hoping for a bit more depth.
>>125110103
Nope, just go back to path of health nodes if you want some deep complicated builds and gamble to get a 6 link.
>>125111497
Damn, thanks anon. The action isn't solid enough to make up for the shallow build depth, either, and there're only four classes.
Hopefully it gets better as I level up more.
>>125111631
Honestly not having to worry about the perfect build and shit is rather refreshing. I played a bunch of shit and it always ends up being the same, even if you have 100 options you maximize one single target attack and one aoe skill, auras or whatever passives required to get more damage or some funny effect. But in the end you just spam that shit and maybe have 1 or 2 utility things to move faster or heal yourself.
So it's pretty much the same here, but you don't get much to choose from but end up having a very similar gameplay. The only major difference here is the built in dodge mechanic and the devilian form, juggling your attack cooldowns with the devilian resource pool is all the depth you'll get. Considering end game bosses can take a considerable amount of time, your challenge comes from keeping your aoes up as much as possible, building your resources top spam mastered Lightning blast and dodging shit so you don't die to clear the dungeon as fast as possible and get better rewards/ranks in the leaderboards. The rest of the game is basically pull the whole dungeon and kill it in one big AoE mess, but that's the same for every class not just evoker.
Also flame field is OP, if you don't have that and mastered lightning blast you're doing it wrong.
>>125112129
>flame field is OP
Really? I tried that tree and it felt rather lacklustre compared to Lightning Blast. I can't get both yet since I don't have enough skill points, I think.
I watched some Youtube videos of the new Scythe class and it looks interesting, so I might hold out for that and play this casually.
>>125112221
So I could get both, so now the fire knockdown replaces Black Hole, and Flame Field replaces Icicle Storm.
On the downside, 3 points were wasted in Fire Shuriken, which must be the worst skill in all of Evoker.
I think at this low level it might better to put all my points in Control.
I'm lvl 30 and my devil form sucks, when are they worth using ?
Does the game ever stop being so absurdly easy?
I mean I could pretty easily play this one-handed and just jerk off to mai waifu jiggling around in a fight, and at no point would it even get dangerous.
>>125118212
Think about the concept of difficulty in a loot driven arpg. How do you even approach that?
If you just make content hard to survive, people will just grind until they can clear it easily.
If you make it so enemies oneshot you aka PoE, this is frustrating, not difficult
>>125119553
>If you just make content hard to survive, people will just grind until they can clear it easily.
This is surely the entire point of a loot game.
>>125119737
nigga it's all about ttk ttl.
kill shit fast
>>125119553
Imagine if they had added action combat to the game.
Damn it'd be cool.
And a trinity party system, god damn it'd be fun.
Man, this game is clunky as shit
Like, the whole UI and the responsiveness of the controls feels like they took Tera and hackjob'd it into some faux ARPG. Which appears to be what they did.
I don't know about this. Kinda wishing I hadn't uninstalled MH to make space for this on my SSD. Rip.
>>125130630
What's MH?
And yeah, it's pretty clunky, and the mob combat sucks.
>>125131686
Marvel Heroes
Main problems with that game are that the loot sucks and the characters don't have a lot of customization, but Devilian is at best on par with MH for loot and has even less build variety. Very disappointing.
>>125131828
Why would you want to play a wannabe game like that?
>>125132145
Because as far as ARPG games that have the structure and longevity of an MMO as opposed to the seasonal-start-over-fest that is PoE or D3, MH was literally the only name in the business. Kind of still is desu.
>>125132456
what kind of longevity?
What are you gonna do at max level? Repeat the same dungeons over and over again, up until the point you have all the best gear and can't do anything to improve yourself anymore.
I don't think PvP works at all in a game without healers too, so PvP won't be much fun.
>>125132978
This is where the staple of ARPGs, randomly generated dungeons, comes in.
Also, raids and other high-challenge content.
Games like Diablo 2 are about grinding for power, but where they fall short is something to do with that power once you have it. I've always seen Diablo 3 rift style contest as well as Marvel Heroes raid style content to be the answer to that.
>>125112825
No way, use shuriken on packs of enemies that you're pulling into a big group. It drags along through them as you move for pretty good damage.
>>125133241
The dungeons aren't randomized though.
Pretty sure that's not a staple thing of ARPGs.
>>125134070
D2 had randomized tilesets. PoE has nothing but randomized tilesets. D3 didn't and people complained until they added rifts. MH didn't until a few days ago they added the new danger room which is an approximation of PoE's endgame map system.
>>125134601
None of those games are Devilian.
And a randomized tileset sounds to simply be graphical.
>>125134723
>None of those games are Devilian.
That's kind of the point I was making
Having the place look interesting and you needing to explore it to find where you need to go is as much a part of gameplay as anything else, but they also have random enemies except for D2 because it is too old for that shit.
>>125134941
If it changes the layout then it's different, but changing the "tileset", i.e. the graphical theme, is not.
But anyway... I just don't get what the fun part of these games are.
The combat sucks, so all you do is spam your buttons and kill things over and over again. It's just like a slightly enhanced version of WoW.
>>125135139
It's fun to progress a character and the combat is smooth and enjoyable
>all you do is spam your buttons and kill things over and over again. It's just like a slightly enhanced version of WoW.
Except you have to manually aim all of your skills and it actually feels good instead of being a clunky piece of autotarget shit
>>125135527
Not like there's much to aim...
Melee characters should have a block, like 3 blocks for 0.3 sec that recharges one every 1.5 sec. Ranged characters should be able to avoid damage by move out of the range of th mobs, even if the mobs animation has started.
It would make it diffuclt to make dungeons challanging, as there's no way to guarantee damage onto the players... But I don't think dungeons are challanging at all in ARPGS? It's just a matter if you have the DPS and HP or not.
What's the best berserker subclass?
>>125135527
>combat is smooth and enjoyable
Not being able to stop with shift whilst already holding down leftclick kills it for me, having to let go, press shift then wait half a second before clicking is far from smooth.
>>125137503
Marauder
>>125137821
the enemies that aren't bosses seem to be clunky and retarded as well.
>>125138193
I was gonna go marauder for huge aoe anyways, thanks!
>>125130630
Can't compare this to TERA, which had actual action combat. This thing has circles on the ground and that's about it, you can't even dodge mob damage like you can in TERA.
>>125137821
If you use direct WASD control and you will never have to stop with shift. Combat is still clunky even then, but better.
Best build for cannonloli?
Fresh link for NFA Asperon Discord group:
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ0EzLUB
>>125148713
the fuck is that, are you enlightened?
evoker or heavy weaponsgoblinloli?
>>125151578
Evoker gets boring fast, but it's effective.
loli has a group speed buff, which is really nice for speedrunning dungeons, it even stacks with other lolis so you can cheese by stacking more lolis and going sanic speed...
This game is pretty dumb...
Why not ARPG with trinity setup?
Games without healers, and generally tanks, are just plain boring.
What's up with that fucking beep when launching the game? It will kill my ears soon, is there a way to fix it?
so... all my items vanished
>>125169342
Try putting Glyph in win7 compatability mode
>>125170108
Yeah, Trion accidentally the whole server
>>125161835
Have you ever played an ARPG before, son?
Which server should i choose? EU
>>125174274
Seadrift is where it's at mate
>>125173048
Never gotten into them, because they usually bore me.
>>125176164
Then why would you care about Devilian having a trinity system anyway?
Cannonloli o Evoker?
>>125177821
Why do you even ask? Loli is crazy fun to play
witch was spamming lightning and everything dies in a zap
cannonloli is machine-gunning everything to death. also, you can toss bombs.
Beat subclass for loli?
>>125179283
Gunslinger is probaly the best for leveling, with it's high mobility
>>125176727
Did I say that Devilian should have a trinity system, and actual good combat?
It'd be a waste to put in such good features into an already dying game.
>make a twintail loli
>spin her
>HAIR PHYSICS
goty
need a voice mod though, she sounds like a 40-something chain smoker
>>125183895
That's what all proper high school girls sound like.
>mfw there's a log-in queue
Server capacity was probably only like 1k. Highly doubt this shit game has people trying it en masse.
>>125184395
rip
NICE GAME
>>125188030
>>125188610
>can't even look at heaving animated tiddies while in queue like you can at the login screen
The fuck were they thinking
HUEHUEHUEHUE
>>125188610
It's going up, not down
>4k players queue
nice game devilbabbs
ded servers
ded game
you guys realise there's a second server, right?
>>125191916
We can't get to the server selection screen
Are character names cross-server?
what are the chances of this game thriving or doing remotely well at all
>>125170329
why is someone creeping on my toon
>>125195231
are servers back yet
yes
>>125194708
yep, don't know if they're cross NA and EU too though.
asperon is still down, gonna be awhile
http://forums.deviliangame.com/showthread.php?6780-Asperon-Server-Restart-12-12-15-7-55-PM-PST
>>125200793
nice
so everyone's items are gonna go missing?
>>125201301
Not sure. It happened in EU Seadrift or something.
Is there a fucking fatigue system?
>>125204079
I didn't see one during the hour that I've been able to play so far
These are your average Devilian canoneer players.
Hey there folks, we're not yet bringing Asperon back online as we are still investigating with our teams. We do apologize for the extended downtime, we'll provide another update sometime next year sorry.
ravan master race reporting in
ask me anything
heart pupils when
>>125205575
Are you havingfun?
I want to make an account for the forums just so I can tell these people to kill themselves.
>>125207314
>>125207381
>>125206606
maybe
i don't remember what fun feels like
>20 minutes past 11 still no update
>>125208497
I just made a loli on ravan - RAmarl
add me desu senpai
Hello everyone, while we are continuing our investigation on Asperon, we are not yet ready to bring the servers back online. We should have another update available in approximately 30-40 years, as we are making good progress from what we've observed.
>>125210427
I spoke to one korean gentleman on the telephone, he had one thing to say:
>Yoboseyo
Things are looking very hopeful!
>>125210989
>this fucking faggot
jesus christ I am literally feeling sick to my stomach that someone is that cringeworthy
>>125210989
>implying that PR guy's boss actually gives a shit
>>125210989
So completely different field but I deal with my companies relationships with vendors on an escalated level.
We generally take praise/complaints serious but we get like hundreds of fucking cases like this where some asshat decides to be all chummy and we laugh them off. Like how does he think his 100 bucks is relevant in the grand scheme of things. Then he attributes on of the public faces of the company/dev on the forums with a tech support / help desk tier job. Then he invites her to go have drinks with him/her.
>>125211457
Kiwibird is a grill.
>>125211861
"Then he invites HER"
I think he might have known that.
Ravan is shit no wonder it didn't crash.
>>125212476
[cringing intensifies]
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Hello again everyone, we are now opening up the Asperon server.
Asperon is up.
It's up
Wonder if we get anything for the downtime. Who am I kidding ayy lmao
>>125214341
If you had timed cash shop items going contact them.
The main thing that worries me about this game is that the dev team might not be really dedicated to it, seems like kind of a cheap tera redesign rather then something they're committed to building and supporting.
>>125217657
>redesign of Tera
If only. It's quite a bit more shallow mechanically.
Are enigma keys real money only?
>>125217843
Why Tera gets so much praise is beyond me. It has an average combat system in an otherwise shit game
>>125222562
>average combat system
Yeah, but it's as good as we can ask for in an MMORPG so far. I think only Dragon Nest or BnS does as well or better.
>>125222562
>average combat
I swear if you're one of those casuals who dislikes Tera's combat because of the animation locks I'm going to cut off your head and shit down your neck.
how do you respec
>>125223651
Go in skills page, click the circular double arrow next to the skill point counter.
>>125222562
Because Elin thighs.
Cannoneers have fantastic legs, though. I always tempted to throw my mount in the bank and walk everywhere, they're so fantastic.
>>125223651
Push the little recycle button on the left on the skill page. It's free.
Wich EU server has the bigger part of english speaking players on it? I only see frenchies and polaks.
So is this game still dominated by Evokers?
>>125224776
evokers and lolis
why would you want to play melee guy or that COLDSTEEL guy. The melee guys tend to get shat on in aRPGs--just look at Path of Exile, Marauders and Templars fucking SUCKED.
>>125223759
>>125223770
thx boys
if youre on the fence about the game check out twitch /fiekechu shes playing it atm again!
stop what you are doing
post cute evokers
>>125222562
There's not a single MMO with a better combat. TERA combat is pretty close to ideal, you could probably do some tweaks to get it to feel better, but it's damn close.
Actually, I don't think there's even any single player RPGs that has a better combat system than TERA.
Want me to make a rundown on how your supposedly "superior" combat systems are shit?
>WoW
Server checks the distance between you and the target. If you were in range when skill was casted, it's guaranteed to hit, same goes for the mobs against you.
There's literally no point of you moving around.
>GW2
Essentially the same as WoW, only difference is that now for a lot of the skills, especially mobs, their attacks are handled as an AoE would, and will only do damage in the area once it's the "damage phase" in the animation.
Meaning, you can dodge things, a slight improvement. Only thing is that you can't dodge ranged attacks, afaik.
>Skyforge
Same as GW2.
>TERA
All attacks are essentially AoE areas, you can dodge almost anything (other than caster mobs, or lock on spells). Not only are your mobs movement locked into their attack, so are yours.
That means, you have to actually think about what attack you're using, and dodge things using your movement locks rather than just circle around your target spamming attacks.
>Devilian
It's basically between WoW and GW2, it's not quite as bad as WoW, as there are projectiles, but not at all as good as GW2.
>>125224349
Don't know, I picked Segarro.
Apparently Segarro was the server that was open for the early access people, and I can't imagine broke non-english speaker could pay for that.
>>125231469
She's basically proof that when it comes to female streamers, being good looking doesn't guarantee viewers... Actually, not even having a "good" personality does.
There are actually quite a lot of good female streamers, but some of them are just.
>Devilian doesn't have TERA models!
>Entire chat starts to make jokes about how it's stolen runescape models
It's like, half the female streamers gets through because they give enough attention to beta males. It's like people follow them because they want to relive high school, but be on the popular side this time.
Then you have basically the same thing with a lot of male streamers
>Look at my beard
>Man, so cool and manly
Then they get this stupid following that thinks they're all manly and cool because they're looking at a guy with a beard.
This game is alright. Good for passing time.
>>125240287
Wildstar is an upgraded version of TERA. Depending on your tastes, B&S will be better as well.
>>125245683
Wildstar is the same as GW2, it's an upgrade to WoW, but not nearly as good as TERA.
B&S isn't better either, since it requires lock on, it's quite a bit worse. But the type of combat that uses is also very different, it's trying to emulate a fighting game.
These 10/10 characters are the reason I'm playing this over D3.
>>125253939
>spending money on a game that will die out by next year
Meanwhile, I'm over here pondering if I should even fork over $5 to get out of Free Account zone.
>>125254154
What are the restrictions, aside from being able to use unfilterable loudspeakers?
>>125245683
Sorry to sound like a fanboy but if you really think Wildstar is comparable to Tera on it's combat you're really unfit to evaluate any mechanics and have no idea what you're talking about.
Wildstar is nothing but red shit on the floor, Tera has actual hitbox mechanics, the way a character swings his weapons actually are reflected upon combat, even the most basic auto attack is registered from the actual weapons your character are using and not from some ketchup shit on the floor.
Wildstar bosses and raids are indeed superior, they're actually challenging and punishing if you can't avoid basic shit on the floor, but the actual player inputs are radically more detailed and responsive on Tera.
I agree that Tera is a dead game, it's nothing but a glorified chatroom for waifus and to play dressup, but if there's one thing Tera did good was their combat, it really sets the standard way above anything you can play in english right now in the same genre.
>>125255206
What about Vindictus?
>>125257329
Vindictus has good combat but it's an entirely different kind of game.
>>125254763
To use the broker, or to sell things on the broker.
>>125260927
The broker is awful anyway so whatever.
>>125257329
what >>125257778 said
I had fun in Vindi, but it's not that deep once you've played C9, again it's just a panty flashing game with some elitist raids. I wish Vindi actually had some kind of endless dungeon roguelike kind of thing, once you hit the grindwalls the game turns from fun to shit rather fast.
>do the Behemoth portal mission thing
>some random overleveled fag shows up, kills everything in 5 seconds, and I get 0 exp
wow thanks a lot bro I totally appreciate the help
When do things start getting somewhat difficult?
>>125266729
Change class
>>125266894
???
>>125267123
If you're playing an OP character you're obviously not gonna feel it's challenging at all.
Anyway, they can't make the game more difficult, because then nobody would be able to complete dungeons, due to how shitty their combat system is.
Fresh link for NFA Asperon Discord group:
https://discord.gg/0hJaq38ICQ2UkBMl
>>125269559
So how often does she get mounted by the mutt?
even The Secret World did telegraph combat better than Wildstar.
and you're not really playing TSW for combat.
>>125277598
One of the biggest problems with Wildstar's telegraphs is Carbine tried to make all sorts of complex, fancy patterns to dodge. That shit doesn't work unless you're playing something like Touhou where you can actually see your hitbox and move accordingly. A small gap in the pattern may or may not be big enough for you to stand in to avoid the AoE and you don't know until you try it.
>>125103217
I play berserker, spellsword has great sustain but be prepared to have to pay attention at boss fights a ton more than other classes
i'm playing a demolisher loli
i just minigun and shit outside of my view distance gets pulled in by the hail of bullets
so far minigunning, venom bombing and shootan rockets is fun stuff. somebody on announce said the gunslinger is better, but shit demolisher is already super damn easy.
>>125092570
Says the invite is invalid or expired when I try it.
So
Any futa lolis around?
>>125282623
>but be prepared to have to pay attention at boss fights a ton
Yeah but that's exactly my problem with the class. People say zerker needs more ways to heal himself, then some faggots claim zerker already has 3 self heals, and if he had any more he would be pretty much invincible. But outside ot trash mobs that's a load of bullshit, trash is dumb and easy anyways, and the loli/evoker can just kite them anyways, facetanking them is nice but not necessary. And then you get into bossfights and you have to tip toe every god damn attack, risking yourself so much more and 2 of those "heals" you have require you to hit a bunch of enemies to actually be significant. Even if the boss has adds there's no guarantee there will be adds when you need to heal... so basically zerker has some conditional self heals, and gets butt raped if he doesn't play almost perfectly, but there's no tradeoff, you aren't getting anything more out of the class just because you're taking a bigger risk.
Even a fully epic zerker only has like 30k hp, which is about 5k more hp than an evoker with comparable gear, you'll still get 2/3 shotted and the ranged sluts will get hit less often. Unless you take devilian form pvp in consideration zerker feels like extra work for no reward, so it's kind of a masochist class for those who want to rank up in the class leaderboards, and in the general leaderboards I know a few godly zerks are there, I just don't think the average zerk will be able to perform with their class as well as those top rankers.
Can you skip story quests? Questing is just so boring...
>>125284939
Yep, need a nice fat loli dicking anon?
Man, I can't wait for Lost Ark, it looks so cool.
It'll have healer classes.
Hopefully the combat is good too.
How is this game?
People have told me that classes are boring/uncreative. That questing/gameplay is way too easy.
Wondering how much truth is in this.
>>125289817
game is bad, but is new
we're just playing this for like a week or two and then moving on to some better game or going back to the actual games we already played before.
There's no point in rating the game or it's features, just try it out to like lvl 20 which takes 2 hours or less and that will allow you to test all the skills the class you choose has, you'll see if it's worth your time or not (probably won't).
>>125289817
Create a berserker for some fun and not quite brain dead gameplay, playing a ranged makes the game even more boring.
Everything is easy, so easy you can probably hit and quit it in a day or two having completed every major content.
It's a fetch quest galore with a dungeon system similar to dragon nest actually this game is practically dragon nest with a locked camera to imitate an arpg.
It can be fun if you don't have anything else to do.
>>125289817
It's pretty alright. Something moderately fun and not challenging to fill the time until Blade and Soul's release
If your naughty bits don't get tingly after watching this, you're a fagget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAmn4x2r-O8 (put on CC)
Pathetically enough, I was hoping Devilian would be something like it, just a lot simpler and smaller... How wrong I was.
started playing and the controls are fucking ass ... tried to setup em just like in Tree of Savior, it sorta worked, yet I still need my fucking cursor to aim my attacks. I'm a fucking warrior ... the devs are fucking retarded.
>>125302369
>ToS
ultra shit taste detected
>>125302715
kinda liked the control scheme, but welp, shit's jut not working. "rpg mode "is fucking retarded.
>>125299403
Damn that looks good.
>>125246415
>>125255206
>Wildstar is the same as Tera
I can't believe there are people who think this. Wildstar has a grand total of something like 3 animations a class.
>>125296079
>this game is practically dragon nest
Except it doesn't DN's combat, which is the one thing which made it stand out.
>>125106352
wow thats pretty intense and harcore noob bait. this game is looking to be more and more pay to win by the minute.
>>125308127
>trion
Good times when they only had Rift being sub based, something went very very wrong for/at Trion.
In the future the Trion website will redirect to Aeria games.
>>125308608
To be fair, F2P rift was fantastic, exactly what I wanted out of a f2p mmo. It all started with fucking archeage. Rift f2p was just fine too but Archeage changes a man.
>>125308717
Rift started okay but with every update more and p2w was added, i quit when they added lower tier equipment in the shop.
>>125311197
Don't think I got that far, I quit before they added the second set of souls. It started out so well what a shame. Trion used to be one of my favorite companies now they're such jews.
tfw installed, got bored 15 minutes in, unistalled.
>>125283576
I use the gunslinger tree but replace the basic shitty AOE with the first demolisher skill, it's so fucking broken if you alternate it with normal autoattack. 200% damage, 0 cooldown, no worries about MP or whatever it's called.
>>125299403
>literal 2hu class
where are the royalties
What's the status on this game, looks pretty bad on steam?
>>125311386
This guy further dissuades me.
>>125316245
The game isn't bad for a f2p isometric grinder, the classes are fun, the graphics are enjoyable and not neccessarily a fuckhuge mess (althought it does get messy) in a group, and most importantly the pay2win isn't blatant power creep unless you're concerned with being the most nerd faggot on the server.
With that being said I sort of quit, I realized I don't feel like grinding gear levels, and the daily rewards/mechanics forcing me to login are kinda meh, too shitty to motivate me to log in everyday, but too good to ignore, so I rather just not play at all anymore.
I enojoyed the classes I played a lot, but they're sort of shallow, there's is almost no build variety, even with the talisman system all you get is extra stats, and the paragon system on this game is also another stat stick and nothing more. Your character won't be much different from any other from the same class other than having more gear levels.
I play grinders and dungeon crawlers for the builds and the loot mostly, and honestly those are the weakest points to this game, with the very limited variety of builds and the 100% generic gear I don't see the point in committing to it.
>>125317124
Thanks for the insight, won't get it then.
>ael's tears, an item that makes you stronger and probably necessary for late game, is only purchasable thru the marketplace
aaaaaaaaaand im out.
>>125312248
Actually it's the Opportunist's first skill. The Demolisher's skills don't look that useful to me.
>>125317464
You get 7 for free every 14 days you log in, plus more from daily challenge points.
>>125085336
>Hey a MMOARPG, might be interesting
>Trion
And dropped.
>add 10 friends quest
>fuck you but okay
>send gifts to all of them then delete them
>5 minutes later, send a friend a gift quest
fucking why
>>125299403
its korean. if you like being 6-8 months behind a damn patch and the korean devs not giving 2 shits about the western market or what they would want in the game then good for you, cuz that is what you are going to get.
u autists need to stop getting hyped for a game just cuz "mah shiny graphics doe".
>>125317508
demolisher first skill is pretty powerful tho. insane damage that pretty much trumps anything the "devilian" form can do.
game needs more tuning.
>>125322647
Trumping devil form isn't special.
>>125322557
Nice thing about Devilian is, their Korean version is dead. It's a toss-up between this and the Thai deployment.
>>125322729
exactly why the game needs tuning.
game has potential and a ton of room for improvement. however all signs point to them putting alot of key shit behind a pay wall, which pretty much kills any potential it might have. games should just stop using the f2p model to avoid this bull shit. when you have to sell start packs for as high as $99 you are setting your game up for failure.
>>125322557
Every decent MMO is Korean nowadays, so I don't know about you but I'll take what I can get.
Western MMO developers are stuck in a rut and can't do action properly either way.
>>125323047
you are forgetting WoW is a western MMO. western MMO developers do not bother because WoW exists and they know what ever they create will be a failure in comparison.
at this point only blizzard can make a MMO that trumps WoW and thus we actually get a god tier MMO.
just wait for world of diablo in about 5 or 10 more years. its going to happen.
EU guy here, how dead are the EU servers??
should I roll on NA?
So are these wings I'm seeing on my fellow semen demons a cash shop item? Are they on the broker at all?
>>125323170
>this entire post
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>>125322557
Why does it matter being behind a patch, or half a year? It's not like it'll affect the way I enjoy playing the game, only that I get to know what will come... Which I guess can be annoying, but then I can just choose to not look at it.
This game has.
>Good combat
>An amazing world
>Supposedly a healer class
>Inter-fucking-esting classes
>Good art-style
Unless there's some major shit they've hidden, this is going to be THE game, or mmo game (not like it exists any non-MMO games either).
>>125323170
WoW isn't decent, it's garbage.
Even when it was recently released it wasn't interesting, and I think even the combat system was already dated.
>>125323641
If they're not in demon form then ya cash shop item.
Do warehouse expansion runes only work for premium shills?
>>125325784
Nevermind I figured it out. Didn't see the rune slots at the bottom of the warehouse inventory.
>>125322647
agree, lolidevil is pretty shitty form desu, aside from the look
How the fuck do I get rid of the massive fucking chat window?
>>125285486
I'd have to agree, but I feel like berserker has a ton of utility as well, there's armor pieces that make your freeze do -30% defense down on the spellsword freeze and there's terrify which is -10% defense and -30% attack as well.
definitely takes a lot more work though compared to cannoneer using mutilation flame
>EU servers literally dead
>Have a character on both of them
f u c k m e
>>125334401
Fuck that chat, can't cast stuff or click the ground if your mouse is above it.
do you really have to pay $5 to use AH?
>>125345461
yes
This game is really simple at this stage of life, its to go from A to B steamrolling all (with autorun). The history its really... bad like all the other games from Korea.
The lock gender/race its a old mechanic now, and the classes don't have any customization in the skill tree because you have little to no zero skills/passives to being at least, unique.
>>125323047
>Decent
>MMO
>Korean
Come again?
>>125324590
>Repetitive combat
Thats I can see right now.
>>125345461
>TRION learning from IMC
FUCK.
someone give me some hope for this game. can i buy AH with ingame gold? can i buy character slots with ingame gold?
please, i really am hoping this game isnt a complete scumbag type of game... need a new MMO after tera.
>>125352301
no if you don't have money IRL better get a job instead of wasting your life in some gook half assed garbage game.
>>125352782
its not about having money or not, its about retards actually supporting this pay wall bullshit instead of boycotting it by refusing to pay for such autistic shit.
if they actually see you paying for this then they will just put more and more pay walls in the game because they KNOW autist will throw money at the screen for no reason. this is how games with amazing potential like this one gets fucked and keked.
>>125353182
The game is so far one of the most poor friendly games out there, I mean it if you can't afford the basic shit you're really asking for too much.
>let's boycot this game because it needs you to spend $5 on any TRION game to use their AH forever on any TRION game.
How about you boycot the games that need you to spend $1000 to be remotely competitive?
You people expect shitty niche waifu generators to be cosmetic only, like they'll ever get their money back just from selling panties... it worked for Vindictus but just long enough that they introduced the real pay2win.
You're going to dump this game in 100-200 hours or less, so who cares if some faggot spent $50 to clear the dungeon 10 seconds faster than you? the patron getting an extra reward might be significant, but yeah you can buy patron status from other players if there's anyone desperate enough to sell them. But again that's not the point, you crying over $5-20 and saying that's the broken part of the game is dumb, that's the less worst part in fact, when you go into any other gook game and upgrading your items requires hundreds of dollars to get to +12 or whatever.
>>125354075
i dont care how hard you try to make your autistic reasoning logical, you dont put a fucking pay wall on something like AH. period.
the game is a fucking failure before it can even get its foot out the door. you know this, i know this, anyone who plays trion games/archage knows this fucking shit.
get out of your denial and wake the fuck up. stop supporting this bull shit.
>>125354075
>$1000 to be remotely competitive.
those games are dead. flyff, perfect world, forsaken world, etc etc. no one plays thos games anymore except the most special of special people.
devilian being "cheap" isnt the issue here. the issue is them pay walling key aspects of the game which will encourage them to pay wall even more key aspects of the game in the future. that shit adds up untill you clowns realize whats going on a year or 2 later and start bitching "waah this game became Pay2win now, im quitting and going to xxxx game which will do the same exact thing in a year or 2"
people like you is what ruins MMOs because people like YOU is what cause the f2p model to become so insane and the saddest part is that you dont even realize what you are doing.
>>125354075
>You people expect shitty niche waifu generators to be cosmetic only, like they'll ever get their money back just from selling panties... it worked for Vindictus but just long enough that they introduced the real pay2win.
it works pretty well for tera too. the game, even now, only gets there money from pure cosmetics and elite and nothing else.
tera actually got it right in that regard. its only problem is lack of content/rewards.
>>125354392
boo hoo I'm a poor student on ramen who can't spend $5!!!, I can't sell my lvl 15 rare, boo hoo, the game is so bad! I can't have fun if i don't sell my shit!
Go play whatever game you think has "fair" cash shop then, you're just going to say pot, so yeah go play that. Or if you say something like Marvel heroes, which requires you to get 600 shit whatevers by playing 300 horus to get a character that costs $9.99.
>>125355030
while im at it, BnS also does it correctly in that it only gets its money from cosmetcs.
so you are 100% wrong. puting a pay wall on something like AH, even if its for $1, is fucking retarded simply because of the IDEA/PRINCIPLE of putting INGAME CONTENT BEHIND A PAYWALL.
you need to realize this.
>>125355054
do you truly believe someone cant afford $5 on a vidya game? are you really trying to use that argument right now without addressing the REAL issue which is paywalling ingame content?
are you that retarded?
>>125354835
you expect to play the game for 2 years without even spending $5? my god how fucking poor brazilian are you?
No one is going to play this garbage in 2 months let alone 2 years, you people sound like you come from /v/ and this is your second or this mmo/arpg or something, seriously get the fuck out of your basement, f2p doesn't mean "THE FULL GAME IS AT THE TIP OF YOUR HANDS, AN NEVER EVER HAVE TO SPEND A DIME", it's meant to be more like a super enhanced trial, or in the worst chase scenario a white whale bait with ultra expensive cash shops. So yeah if you sort of enjoyed the game, and all they requested from you was $5, WOW FUCKING JEWS THEY'RE THE WORST! they're going to ask me for another $5 in a year if I want to keep having fun! my god, the worst fucking dev in the world, they probably have a deal with Cthulu to squeeze the lunch money out of every pinoy in the universe!
>>125355054
holy shit. Its brain dead goons like you that make these games so fucking atrocious. Fucks like you is why archeage exist in its current state.
>>125355385
ive played tera for 2 years without spending a cent because everything can be bought ingame, including elite.
you play a MMO for longevity. if you want to play a game for 1-4 weeks go pick up a console faggot. that might suite your horrendous attention span a bit better.
>>125355385
if you played games like tera and BnS you would realize how stupid you are making yourself look right now.
>>125355657
look at Mr. commitment, good to know you are in love with your Elin pedomaster, if you don't spend any money, why does that mean the game is supposed to have 0 features that entice players to spend money? you really think this models, the world, the music, the moderators, the avertisement and the servers are payed for your amusement? it's a business, you're like the mall kid who just goes there to hangout because the AC is nice, the mall survives because people actually spend money there, if you want to be a poor teenager leeching the AC that's cool, but grown ups have to keep the world working, so stop meddling into the discussion if all you do is steal from the work other people do.
>>125355824
then go play Tera and BnS, why do you expect every game to have their business model?
this game asks me for $5! then it's shit! because it's not Tera or BnS! you sound like a fucking reviewer form IGN, oh this game isn't as good as GTA or ZELDA, therefore it's shit... eventhough those games had like 20 times the budget, I don't care this small shitty game is supposed to be free 2 play, with nothing but panties and even the panties I want them for free if I play a lot instead of getting an actual work.
>>125356156
whats autistic is that you agree that its shit, but still arguing just for the sake of argument.
cut it out guy
>>125355915
This kid doesn't get it at a ll. Best to stop arguing with someone who thinks a brick wall is made of wood and refuses any other logical reasoning to why its a brick wall even when dosing said brick wall with fire and seeing that it doesnt burn down. That is the level of autism you guys are dealing with right now.
>>125356437
Because it's a shitty novelty game, if you're going to play it for a month or less, who cares about the stupid restrictions, you're going to quit for a better game really soon, you can't be so fucking anal to say the game is 100% unfun because you can't sell shit on the AH.
And if you really really enjoyed the game that much and you're going to play for fucking 6 months or 2 years, then the game asking you for $5 is really the worst thing in the world? you really expect every god damn online game to give you 500+ hours of enjoyment for free?
Like man, I'll throw you the $5 just put your paypal and have a good time, I can't believe you faggots rather cry about it than god damn ask your mom for that money for washing her van or something, I feel sorry for all of you who are so poor and spoiled that expect good things to be 100% free and amazing.
I'm glad there's a paywall, otherwise I'd have 1500 brazilians underselling their shit on the AH and no one would make a profit, I've played enough f2p games to know why having the AH behind a mini paywall is a smart move, so yeah go cry all you want, I don't know what you're trying to acomplish by telling people this is the worst part of the game when it isn't.
>>125355657
You can buy cash shop currency with gold in game.
>>125352301
This game is shit, and has one of the worst combat systems in a long time.
It can't replace TERA, because the reason TERA is good is because of it's good combat.
>>125352016
You think any game doesn't have repetitive combat?
You never come up with unique skills, because they have to be animated first.
I bet you're one of those people that thinks skyforge is good, and that it has good combat.
>>125355385
You can sort of help the developers get money without actually spending money.
I've not spent much money on TERA, only bought a founders key for $15.
But beyond that, I've bought 6 months of subscription through the auction house, and several costumes, and some loot boxes, through direct trade with players (I give them gold, they buy stuff in the store for me).
It probably goes up to like $200... Which would've been sold even if I didn't buy those things, but I was one of the f2pers that kept the economy running, making it easy for people that pay for stuff to sell it.
>>125356713
>5 dollars
>is a brickwall
Anon it's not that bad, seriously I'll paypall you the money, it's christmas, I'm so sorry for you brazilians who have it so bad, I just didn't think starving mongolians living on the streets were able to browse the internet and play Devilian on their nokia 2600.
>>125355915
If they wanted people to pay they shouldn't have made it f2p.
It's that simple.
Of course, that would mean the game would be even more barren than it is already.
>>125357357
>if they wanted people to pay
What's the alternative? they make games out of love without expecting anything in return? wow would you make me a sandwich and sent it to me for free? how about a sandwich everyday for a few years, would you do that for me? Unless it was your mother or something I don't think anyone does anything without expecting to get a profit out of it.
Are you stoned or something? you really live in some country where you get a shit ton of nice things for free?
What the hell are you dingdongs arguing about? Just play the fucking game.
