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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
Who is the TRUE /tosg/ OTP?
CAN HEX BE SPREAD WITH PLAGUE DOC'S PANDEMIC???
>>124675917
>- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
Stop this, this is a lie
2nd for honest hard-working players
HONEST
HARD-WORKING
PLAYERS
/honestandhard-workingplayers/ ww@
How do I say looking for dungeon group in Korean
>>124676063
Chick in the middle sitting on a vibe.
>>124676148
here.
totally honest and hardworking.
>>124676134
>Implying we won't all be banned after maint
Are we serious we gonna have Cattly as our faggot guild leader for content in the future?
>over 6 million honest, hard-working players died in the server crashocaust from the exploiters
Sorry forgot to put the meet-up info in the OP. Next time.
>>124676169
키스하십시오
>>124676148
Right here lad. All natural, hard-working gains being attained.
2,751 minutes left
>>124676267
This is a no bully zone
>>124676267
Is there something wrong with me? Do you believe me unable of showing restraint?Do I make you mad?
>>124676267
Why not, he is ready to take a bullet for the team with an useless class like Templar
>>124676267
Course not. We'll probably make leader one of the faggots who don't go out of their way to act like complete retards
>>124676375
Templar isn't required to form a guild someone said
I saw what you wrote John, why did you delete it
>>124676267
If he's willing to make the guild then sure. He seems like a nice guy from the little bit I spoke to him. He just likes to do his shitpost shtick. Don't act like you don't shitpost intentionally too. As long as he's good at the role.
>Off collecting guild mats in a desolate zone like a good guild mate should by yourself
>Cattly checks guild info and notices
>Recalls to you
>Takes advantage of you and uses the I'll kick you from guild if you tell anyone' card
>He leaves you a sticky mess in the field as he ports back to the guild hall
And the post was made yesterday, was there even really a need for maintenance
>>124676579
I'm rolling a male char for the next beta and I'm going to be his personal slave
>>124676267
Who else do you suggest?
>>124676579
I don't make people a sticky mess, please don't slander me.
>>124676673
Only be a male if you want to be a male. I do not want slaves, I want friends.
>>124676740
Good job it was all me Honeybingo the whole time
>>124676740
I can't post that fast.
who /broken class/ here?
http://strawpoll.me/6209896
>>124676740
None of them, and my post was >>124676312 but seriously if he proves that he tones it down in release what's the issue? I like talking to him in general, and his posts in the thread can and have been on topic outside of the few kiss posts he does. He does talk about the game, and ingame he talks about all different things, too. He's friendly and open, and while he does his kissposting, he's really innocent and light-hearted, and sworn to tone it down. I'd rather judge him by his leading abilities at the time, if he's the first to make the guild.
>>124677062
Me desu.
>>124677062
>implying i'm joining this guild
>>124677062
Me desu
All chiefs and no indians
>>124677062
system
>>124676932
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4ub16a5kd9/
Not sure if this is a rather close build to branch into that class
>>124677062
>No honey
fucking bloodyaugust br edgelord
>Wizard
Quickcast & Lethargy
>Pyromancer
Flame Ground & Fireball
>Cryomancer
Frost Pillar & Ice Wall
>Psychokino
Psychic Pressure & Raise
>Linker
Joint Penalty & Hangman's Knot
>Thaumaturge
Swell Left Arm & Swell Right Arn
>Chronomancer
Stop & Haste
>Sorcerer
Summoning: Temple Shooter
>Alchemist
Item Awakening & Tincturing
>Necromancer
Summon Shoggoth & Flesh Cannon
why dont anyone pose C3 skill for squire or C2 for doppel up
>>124677062
>my name there
>implying i want to lead
>>124677062
I'll be rolling a Swordsman character as my starter. I could be /tosg/'s Templar if you guys want.
As you guys know, I really don't mind levelling nearly useless characters, and I can probably be active enough.
There's some stuff we should wait and see before deciding anything, though.
>Can multiple Templars be responsible for a guild?
>What kind of pwoers can you delegate to non-templars?
>Can you pass the guild to another templar?
>>124677657
>Chronomancer
>Not Undo button and Cast it again: team edition
>>124677689
idk, Pandemic doesn't spread shit right now
probably bugged
>>124677686
I don't think they are out yet. They are focusing on the new class first then expanding the old ones.
http://tos.nexon.com/community/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=34 Did anyone translate this ??
So Musketeer can use Pistol mainhand?
>>124677696
I'm good with you or Catty being leader. Catty says he has a good amount of experience but you've done a lot of testing and what not, so you clearly care about the game too.
It's going to be a race, probably. Though if we get it sorted out now it could prevent some guild competition, which could split the community and make everything less fun.
>>124677317I really don't want to be leader.
>>124677820
Looks cool
>>124677686
Not in the game. There's icons listed for them but actual skills don't exist.
The KR Joblist is accurate with all the current skills available for classes.
http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/joblist.aspx
>>124677820
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/1016
Not fully, but any new information we didn't already know is there.
>>124677884
You should add me on Steam so we can keep in touch!
I like how google translate the skills
>>124677863
Are their skills usable with xbow/pistol?
>>124677939
woah, cool
>>124678018
>Catty soliciting people for their steam
>>124678232
Well, Honey is nice to me and he expressed interest in helping.
Basically whoever gets templar and the 10 mil 1st should be our guild leader since we know that he spend a lot time and has no life outside of this game. Just the guy we need to manage the guild.
>>124678232
Why do you care so much whether he adds people on steam or not? Stop bullying
>>124678350
I don't want some no life autist who'll probably be a meme spouting tard to be leader.
>>124677884
Precisely. I don't want to compete for /tosg/ members. Rather, I'd like to share responsabilities with other people, which is why I want to know exactly how power can be delegated within a guild.
What do you guys think would be an optimal path leading to a Templar? Considering guild PvP utility, of course.
I really liked Rodeleros after testing them with the exploit, got me thinking about making a Highlander2 Rodelero3. Templar could be a nice follow up to that build. They're got all the tankyness of Peltasta(without Swash), along with tons of PvP CC and the ability to block magic.
Alternatively, Squires would make pretty good Templars too. If their C3 isn't worth getting, a Squire2 Templar could be useful, though more PvE oriented.
>>124678463
>/vg/ guild
>"dont want some no life autist as a leader"
nigga wat
>>124678018
what's your steam
>>124678018
>>124678302
Ya alright, what is it?
>>124678350
Thing is, just having a race like that is almost guaranteed to make more than one guild. That's fine but personally I'd rather have everyone who wants to join the /tosg/ guild in one guildbecause you've all been extremely pleasant
>>124678505
Multiple people with full leadership is actually a pretty good idea. That's worked for /vg/ pretty well before, mostly because one leader gets most of the hate while the other is then able to herd the cats, but whatever works.
Guild leader will need to know how to make consistent money.
>>124678350
The only thing I don't want from a leader is someone TOO strict. I totally agree that it shouldn't be some ERPer who turns the whole thing into a brothel or something, but someone light-hearted is fine.
That said, I'm fine helping the guild however I can, and I've said this multiple times on the subject anyway
>>124678665
>>124678668
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Mariannya/I feel like people are going to find something about my profile to be mean to me about.
>Open ToS by instinct
>Leave it open when I realize the servers are down
>Game is playing "Die Young" as background music
w-what?
>>124678721
>Hey you!
>Have a nice day for me, okay?
best guild leader
>>124678669
hunt tamas
>>124678721
as someone who invest alot in FFXIV, how does it compared to ToS?
>>124678721
>CalorieMate
Better than I expected.
![[Mori] Fate／kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz! Specials - S00E002 [BD 720p][19034B75].mkv_snapshot_02.28_[2015.12.08_10.17.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/F5hvzAI.jpg "[Mori] Fate／kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz! Specials - S00E002 [BD 720p][19034B75].mkv snapshot 02.28 [2015.12.08 10.17.53]")
10mb patch
>>124678920
Those eggs things? Why?
>>124678797
I just want everyone to have a nicer life.
>>124678924
I will need to play the full game to accurately compare the two. Either way, I feel it would be wrong to compare the two, considering they play completely differently and are two very different types of games.
>>124678926
Avoid cheese flavored ones, don't let anyone tell you they're cheesecake flavored, they're not. Chocolate is best, fruit is alright.
>>124679054
30k bow recipe high level recipes need tama shells
>>124678669
The guild is fueled by Talt. So long as we have people doing dungeon runs, it'll be fine.
Unlike RO, supplies are cheap to get, and most can be produced. One or two Alchemists in the guild will suffice, though they might have to be funded with crafting catalysts depending on whether that stuff will be NPC buyable or not on OBT/Release.
There's always going to be people who will go and camp world bosses. With this many people, it won't be too hard to keep track of them. Katzenberg comes to mind though I haven't seen him in a while. He had his own sheet, and access to 3 or 4 other sheets from people he met, along with the public ones from /tosg/ and reddit. I am sure there are anons from Gabija that have the same drive as him.
One or two core leaders, a handful of boss killers, a couple of alchemist suppliers, and dozens of irregulars who will consistently dump talt into our vaults, and we've got ourselves a better organized guild than most by the time we actually get there.
>>124678721
>Animal plushie collection
That's cute.
>>124679054
>>124679216
I recommend just farming Roxona Market. You get moya fragments from the Haze enemies there, and the Saltidaughter Mages or whatever they're called drop a recipe for a two-handed sword that uses only Moya fragments. The sword itself vendors to the NPC for 100k.
This is how I've been farming the money for my Sharp Rapier
>>124679335
It's only three! One is huge though, my stuffed fox. I named himFoxy.
>>124679339
Oh, and I'll add on that you'll already have a ton of fragments from Second Demon Prison
>heal and m. heal nerf
>OOB's attack speed nerf
>Monk is a joke, no new C3 skills
Bravo.
That's exactly the rebalance that this game needs.
Now we just need nerf the shit out of Krivis.
>>124679415
You seem to like them a lot. I am into some weird shit myself so I won't judge anyone for liking plushies. Let alone someone on 4chan.
That tiger bed sheet made me cringe, I must confess.
>>124679550
Why is that? It is incredibly soft, warm, heavy and it has my second favorite animal on it.
>>124679517
>Every class now does 1 damage on every skill, which has only 1 hit
>Every class now has the same number of skills, a block, and a self heal
Complete balance achieved.
>>124679517
>m heal neft
By how much?
>>124679517
They still haven't fixed the core damage issue, they just nerfed a few classes. Great, now we just have more shit classes and a few multihit damage-shitting demigods.
Who banned here
>>124679517
Don't even joke. If they nerfed Krivis... well, I'd have to improvise some retarded shit like Cleric C3 > Bokor C3 to compensate.
>>124679672
Sounds like RO2
>>124679517
>makes Cleric C2 viable
>kills Sadhu DPS
We can't win, right?
Since this is the beginning of the end, could you guys start posting your most memorable pictures here?
Fanart, mspaints, comics, screenshots, kissing, whatever.Even memes.
Testing webms as well.
>>124679517
Krivis only has 1 attack skill, stop smoking.
Nerf the skill would kill the class and make Priest mandatory.
Aukuras, Daino, Meltis and Divine Stigma are all fucking useless.
Zailciai is semi-useful for Plague Doc's Incinerate and Sadhu OOB.
>>124680008
>Not one day should go by with sub-par quality if we can fix it
>leave touhou bullets that cause half the games population to drop and never return in for an entire week
>>124679517
>m. heal nerf
Yep, now they just need to nerf Resurrection and Priest is kill.
>>124680008
HARD-WORKING GM
>>124680108
>believing public relations speak
lol anon you're cute
>>124680090
I don't even have any memorable screenshots. I was waiting for the last day to come so I could take a cute one
>>124680160
HONEST
>>124680090
Be careful which tents you enter.
Holy shit that burn.
>>124680090
Unfortunately I got rid of most of my webms because I keep forgetting to change the filename when I hit convert. I like this one though because the animation is super neat.
>>124680236
Ha ha, it's funny because leveling is a fucking mess and a large number classes are useless because of a shitty damage formula and terrible skills!
>>124680236
>>124680317
He knows about the squire penalty.
>>124680236
>>124680317
Hold on, it isn't an edit? Fucking John
>>124680474
John is a bit of a weaboo cunt
>Just notice today that you can rotate while using PP and hit things in a 360 area
Plague Doctor vs Kabalist, go.
>>124680103
Anon...
He was sarcastic.
>Aukuras, Daino and Divine Stigma are all fucking useless
Aukuras is a poor man taunt, Daino is very good in the late game when some retard keep spamming Divine Might and Divine Stigma is hard to proc, but when you proc your party will crack a smile.
>>124680236
>Sorry Squires, back to be usel...
>>124680008
>Not one day should go by with sub-par quality...
mixed signals desu
>>124680571
Bugged debuff spread and flamethrowers
vs
Infinite SP, complete reflection and WHEELS
I think we know what the winner here is.
>>124680708
>WHEELS
WHAT
>>124680708
>Infinite SP
Potions
>Complete reflection
It's a portion and you still take damage
>WHEELS
You win
>they extend the beta
>but you're banned
>>124680745
>he doesn't know about the Wheels of Goyim
>>124680571
I'll take Plague, but Kabbalist looks really sweet too. I just want to spread Hexing and stacked Incinerates everywhere.
>>124680810
Reminder that the SP heal can also be given to party members.
>>124680745
Merkabah
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/878
>>124680887
It would be funny if the extended again.
>>124679517
Since no one will complain about Sadhu's nerfs, just like what happened with Monk's nerfs, would a Cleric C2>Krivis C3>Druid C1>Kabbalist be viable?
>>124680887
>extending the beta at this point
for what purpose
Oh boy
>tfw want to main a kabbalist and get treated like a dirty SP fountain slut
>>124681025
Yeah, yeah I just want my SP potions
>>124680952
>Ayin Sof is a [Magic] - [Holy] skill, which places a magic circle which lasts for 15 seconds. When the circle is stepped on, you receive a Max HP buff which increases your Max HP by 20% per level, for 23 seconds. (+3 seconds per level.)
If you used this with 1 hp, do you go to full health after the buff is done or back to 1 hp?
My Rodelero skill demonstration.
https://a.pomf.cat/cysdde.webm
I was using shit weapons and levelling stats, so please take this in a qualitative way.
Everything else on the Rodelero kit is either garbage or just not good enough.
No attributes bought either. As for the stats randomizing effect, it just shuffles your stats to the right in the stat window, but never increasing or reducing CON. Extremely devastating if a target has all points into a single stat. More details on 2 threads ago, if you're interested.
>>124681005
So they can continue to not fix anything.
>muh sp potions
They're going to be extra salty from all the Alchemist tears mixed in it when Kabbalist comes out.
>>124681139
What the fuck is up with that grammar.
>>124681112
I'd have to check, but it looks to work like Swashbuckling's Max HP buff, so probably not.
>>124681170
It will probably be another shoah. Or at least a kristallnacht, I don't know.
>>124681170
cleric got free heals at C1 and later free SP at C7.
>>124679335
I'd love if Pardoners could set up donation boxes to collect talts from people but they can only sell what goes in right?
>>124681212
Its from a song. John is a fag
>>124680090
The time that the freeze visual effect didn't disappear.
Stop bullying John. Honestly, he's working pretty dang hard to keep us from going full riot mode on the ToS forums. Cut him some slack.
>>124681139
>every class is worth playing and exploring
>>124681405
HONEST
HARD-WORKING
GMEMER
>>124681405
Fuck off, John.
Disc have you gotten around to testing Possession to see if you still get canceled by any hit?
>>124681405
Stop bullying Squires, John
>login to kToS website
>check website barracks
>see list of 6 servers
oookay, so which server??
>>124681112
webm.
this is with just half the hp gain but heals sp.
GMs are smiling and cracking jokes on the forums but I bet it must be shitstorm level at the IMC studios, with kOBT around the corner and major bugs still not fixed.
>>124681556
Gabija of course.
>>124681482
Not gotten my Sadhu to C2 since I've been testing Kabbalist and Templar, though I know Riu should have Sadhu C2 on his Plague Doctor.
>>124681618
Thanks anyway.
Btw, can you still card exploit on the KR server?
>>124679335
>people will still open shop to buy talt for 3k then
>people will sell them at that price
>>124681579
I wonder if anyone lost their job.
>>124681469
I love it when that happens.
>>124681562
How can alches even compete
>>124681682
It still worked yesterday but I've not been on all day to check. I'd expect it to be patched out soon if they've fixed it on iCBT2.
>>124681562
>>124681735
full sp every minute.
>>124681556
server list btw (in English cause plebs cant understand gook)
Ausrine
Vakarine
Laima
Zemyna
Gabija
Saule
>>124681735
>How can alches even compete
They will make money off SP pots.
Kabbalist ironically will not be able to jew the SP restore.
>>124681857
Instead, they'll be saving every shekel they can not buying SP Pots.
>>124681843
>Saule
Confirmed BR OBT
>>124681909
What if it consumed silver to cast?
>>124681843
Where is my Grita server?
>>124681843
Gabija
I hope the list stays in this order, so we aren't flooded with rice-eaters.
>>124681990
That would be fair.
Falconer in PvP. Add this to undispellable Retrieve that has overheat2 and a cooldown about as long as its duration, and Hunter+Falconer has some of the best 1x1 CC combos you can get in the Archer tree.
https://a.pomf.cat/qqwexk.webm
This is the last good webm I made, I think.
>>124682028
Would you like some turkey for Christmas dinner, anon?
Is the Featherfoot anon still here?
Do Blood Bath and Bloodsucking hit multiple targets without using Joint Penalty?
>>124681843
We should wait until the other groups figure out their server. We want the most heavily populated. Polls on the forums and
>>124682141
but I don't want to play with reddit
>>124682141
Reddit is going Gabija
>>124682028
Is her class featherfoot?
>>124682065
>literally stands still to get targeted by the bird.
>meanwhile any class with actual damage would've already killed you.
>>124682178
We need all the english players we can get. Unite against a common enemy, the gooks
>post on tester forums asking which server to pick
>vakarine mentioned
>>124682178
Why?
>Pros
>Higher server population
>Additional resources from plebbit users here
>Guild wars between /vg/ and reddit
>Guild
>wars
>/vg/ and reddit
>Cons
>Anon doesn't want to play with reddit
>>124682247
underrated
>>124679517
>the game is full of overpowered and imbalanced classes
>let's nerf one of the few Cleric dps classes and the only one that does okayish damage
Now this is sad.
Posting server list with Korean in case server order changes
아우슈리네 - Ausrine
바카리네 - Vakarine
라이마 - Laima
제미나 - Zemyna
가비아 - Gabija
사울레 - Saule
>>124682558
Why does Koreanspeak looks like kid scribbling?.
>>124682264
It was a test, after all. Once you get knocked back once, the bird keeps trashing you around. You *can* resist the knockdown like you see in the video, but it's actually pretty hard to happen from the fights I had. The only chance of escaping is hoping the bird will knock you outside of it's skill range.
I can order him to go all the way to the edge of my screen, well beyond my own reach, let alone a non archer.
It's particularly effective against tanks. I fought a Pelt Rodelero using this Falconer. I noticed that disabling him with Retrieve did not cancel the effect of his C block(he was still blocking all the hits, even if his animation was that of being dragged), but if I knocked him around with the Falcon, he couldn't block or resist by any means.
muh sekrit club
>>124682668
what the fuck
>>124682558
in Gookgle translate
아우슈리네 - Your brother Shree
바카리네 - Bacary Yes
라이마 - La forehead
제미나 - Article Mina
가비아 - Gabiah
사울레 - Les Saul
>>124682668
Are we famous
>>124682825
>La forehead
>>124682825
>La forehead
>>124682632
the language was literally designed for commoners because chingchong chinese was meant for people with tophats
that's why it looks like fucking scribbles
>>124682825
I don't have a brother.
I know I'm going to be disappointed but I'd still play the shit out of Plague Doctor.
>>124682668
Stop quoting me. Post edited.
>>124682632
They developed their characters specifically so even the biggest idiot could learn to read and write them.
>>124683048
>so even the biggest idiot could learn to read and write them.
Tfw you can't read it.
>>124683038
The absolute madman.
>>124683013
They look pretty okay anon. The DoT seems good, can you use the spread ability on the fire attack? Also remember there will be more ranks. Plague Doctor has some good utility that will be useful throughout the ranks.
I don't even want to play one, I want to play Chrono 3.Okay now you re-assure me
>maintenance
Are they trying to reanimate the game?
Just let me play my ded game.
>>124683250
honest
hard-working
beta
>>124683197
Taking Chronomancer C3 in your build is a sure way to be futureproof, anon.
I am calling the multi-clienting cleric/kabbalist healbot meta.
>You heard it here first.
It's back.
>Bloodletting CD 1 sec
So can I cut myself forever?
>can log into broken character now
Thanks IMC.
That cozy meeting in the forest was great. I can't wait until we get to see everyone.
No, I can't wait until we have regular get togethers in the guild hall. /tosg/ Christmas celebrations!
>>124683730
I really look forward to spending holiday events with /tosg/
>>124683730
But this game is coming out early 2017, we're going to miss at the very least two Christmases
Did they fix the class advancement exploit and hidden ui frames exploit?
>>124683730
There's a tiny chance we'll get a new beta in time for Christmas right? Like an itty bitty chance? Maybe New Years?
>hit with bleed while having 5k+ str
Fuck.
>>124683730
I wasn't online for the forest meeting, but being with /tosg/ is pretty heart warming for me. Almost feels like I have my old friends from my RO guild back.
>>124683941
The kobt will be up in time for this Christmas. :^)
>>124683730
I'm just gonna spend most of the remainder of the beta in Kateen Forest anyway
>>124683569
Mine logs in just fine
>steam always thinks tos is running now
>Tree of Savior Christmas event
>You can buy wrapping paper from the item merchant and address it
>/tosg/ gathers in the guild garden where someone grew a tree
>Presents handed out
is the server up?
>>124684218
Yeah
Where did you buy your KR nexon accounts from?
>>124652209
I lost the chance to get my character drawn
again
>>124664821
>scatter fraction bit
wow, so fitting!
>>124684298
newgameway
Just bought one, still processing.
>>124684298
gooks
>>124683127
Just go learn them then.
Time to get stuffed until servers die.
Someone post that countdown.
>>124684310
Yeah, I really wish I had gotten someone to do mine too.
>>124684321
update us if it's legit anon
i want to buy too
>>124684394
>Someone post that countdown.
http://tos.nexon.com/brand/20151208/index.aspx
>>124684394
LoliPantsu senpai, i just want you to know that i would join your guild if youre gonna create one
>Plague Doctor google translated to "Play their doctor".
>>124677062
>http://strawpoll.me/6209896
>Kada
10/10
>>124684394
>You will never go inside the house and have 1 Star sex with Lolipantsu
When will IMC let us interact with buildings?
Why can't I give headpats in this game?
>>124677657
Sounds about right, if it's only what we have so far
>still cant /memberinfo myself
>>124684609
but you can?
>>124678463
the fuck do you want then, some SWJ crippled nigger transgender that's talking about kisses all day?
Tryhards are good for positions of power, because they keep playing and know a lot about the game, also feel the need to flex their ego by answering everything newtards ask. Stupid casuals don't know anything outside their copied build, get bored with the game after a month and leave the guild as a mess filled with retards.
Is going Bokor for Hex and Effigy and ignoring the zombie gimmick a good idea?
>>124683997
TFW everyone from my RO guild has probably grown up and got a job and a girlfriend and stopped playing games while I'm still a NEET manchild.
>>124684565
truly the next step for imc
>>124684637
I mean without crashing a channel.
>>124684671
This drink to that
>>124684671
And there's nothing wrong with that
>>124684654
>Is going Bokor for Hex and Effigy and ignoring the zombie gimmick a good idea?
Yes, with Plague Doctor it seems like a good idea.
>tfw one of the first beta testers
>no BR, no pinoys, all english mostly
>everyone grinding no complaints, people just exploring the game and having fun
>grind so bad we only got to lv80-lv100
>no exploits discovered, no glitches bugs or problems no lag at all
>2nd CBT they let in 500,000 undocumented immigrants
>Game lags make everything impossible to play for first week til the BR fuck off
>Exploits that completely fuck the game over discovered within first 3 weeks
>Only people left playing are boss campers and cuteboi fags
>Gritposters, Color text people, lv99999 people
>No one wants to play game anymore, game ded
i knew this game was doomed as soon as they let outsiders in
>>124684671
Same here bro.
>>124684436
I mean the countdown for our server's ending.
>>124684504
Thanks, but I wouldn't make one if another one already existed. Splitting up and starting up drama is something I'd like to avoid.
>>124684540
Has anyone tried entering a character's lodge while they're inside? Can you have a meeting with someone inside the lodge?
>>124684671
I have most of my closest friends from RO in a Facebook conversation. We've been together for 7 years or longer, depending on whom. I know many of them who have moved on to have a normalfag life after quitting, but for the most part, the oldest ones are still huge screw-ups at life like me.
>>124684696
I need to get that game off my backlog. Soon.
>>124684671
They are all dead inside.
>becoming a semi truck driver to fund my unhealthy lifestyle of videogames
t-there's a way to get internet on the road right
>>124684894
You're going to show up for the next forest /tosg/ Kateen Forest cookout right?
>>124684654
You can focus on them but I would still at least grab 1 point in Bwa Kayiman since it's an incredible mob gathering tool and unless they nerf Tet Mamak La, it would also be good to pick that up since it does a ton of damage.
>>124684210
>Everyone gives each other talt
>>124684958
>RO in a Facebook conversation
>7years
LOLIPANTSU FOR GUILD
M A S T E R
A
S
T
E
R
So what build is everyone gonna roll for kOBT?
>>124684958
Dmn did this to me.
>>124684640
This, this is exactly what happened to the Wildstar /vg/ guild.
>>124685178
>uses facebook
>worth of being a guildmaster
ehh
>>124685209
Fencer. Also Sword2 is a waste. Many times I wished I got swashbuckling
>>124685209
Don't know if I'll be playing kOBT. I might just use the time to work on my backlog instead. If I do, I'll probably remake my Fencer over there first and get Fencer C2
>>124677062
Wow is that the same Kada as the one in Wakfu? that guy was amazing, he even gave me advice on how to convince my wife into anal sex.
Pretty chill guy, very active, didn't mind powerleveling noobs everyday, super strong and humble, I'd drop any guild just to play with him again.
>>124678350
I don't think that's good.
Instead of looking for the faster no-life out there, or the less memer, or the less faggot, we should instead look for someone whom the majority agrees, whatever the reason why.
For exemple, I don't have problems with Cattly, but I know that some guys don't really like him, and that would generate attrict
>>124685430
>he even gave me advice on how to convince my wife into anal sex.
What was the advice?
>namedropping
>erp'ing
>avatarfagging with your own characters
>guild drama when the guilds aren't even in the game
So this is what /xivg/ feels like
>>124685495
Who's avatarfagging?
>>124685298
Facebook became necessary after Ibecame server admin. People no longer used Forums at all after a certain point.
>>124685226
Neat. I wonder how many people you can fit inside a lodge....
>>124685495
>Avatarfagging
No? Unless you mean the screenshot posts of the gathering or the two times Cattly did it in the last thread.
>ERPing
Isn't even a thing here. You sure you didn't just come from /xivg/ yourself, buddy?
Somehow kissing in this game feels a lot more intimate than if it was its own emote.
Something about how both people have to line up perfectly and commit to it.
>>124685551
>Leadership experience
Ya, we should probably get you and Cattly to co-lead. We'll want both of you leveling hard to beat the wave of new blood that comes into the thread, one of them will probably try to lead. With both of you at it I'm sure you'll win out, and you both seem good for it.
>>124685858
That's not what avatarfagging means and I seriously think you did just come from the same shitty general you referred to. Can you go back to it?
>>124685965
make me
>>124685989
Oh, no wonder
>>124685989
a sandwich
>>124685858
>Reaction images is avatarfagging
Did you come from a board with no funposting or something?
>>124685843
I am up for it, but let's wait until the next iServer before we decide. I won't play the kOBT, but I'll still be lurking /tosg/ for information.
What are you eating while you watch the world burn? I made myself some tea and opened up a jar of fig jam. Real classy.
>>124686176
Chocolate covered raisins.
>>124686176
The tears of honest, hard-working players.
>>124686287
HONEST and HARD-WORKING players
>>124686225
Brit detected.
>>124685843
If what someone said at the forest meet up was true about you only needing 10m to make a guild and not having to be a Templar it would be stupid easy to just pool money together for one to make it ASAP.
Otherwise its back to rushing for Templar and maybe grabbing info from the people playing kobt on how to level fastest.
>>124686176
Lay's Stax. Cheddar but a carefully sprinkle cayenne pepper on then in a bowl.
>>124684506
Because it's a foreign word, so they try to imitate the sound as best as they can
>>124686406
I'll hold on to that 10m for you anon.
>>124686176
I'm probably going to get some bacon and eggs soon, since it's 9 AM
So is there an open beta right now or is this still keys only?
>>124686542
Last day of the beta, lad
>>124686406
Even if it's open for all, without Templar's skills, it's pretty much wasted. Imagine trying to run an RO guild, except you have no emergency recall and no guild extension.
>>124686715
Can I have a key?
>>124686739
After you tell me where the 175 dungeon is
Is anyone going to be drinking on our last get together?
>>124686808
Are you just testing him or do you really not know where it is.
>>124684894
>>no exploits discovered, no glitches bugs or problems no lag at all
What a shitty testers you guys were, holy fuck.
>No one wants to play game anymore, game ded
Game died with the bullet hell crash
>>124676134
fuck off pinoy shit
>>124686885
I don't drink alcohol, but I'll listen to some sad music while the ship goes down
>>124686739
I don't have one. It isn't worth playing this game just for a day, try getting a kobt account instead and play with the lads there
>>124686885
Yes, I'm ready to get drunk and confess to my crush.
>>124686975
He isn't even pinoy. What?
>>124687070
Kinda gay desu
>>124687070
Are you the guy who was drunk posting a while ago saying your crush won't notice you?
>>124687236
Yep.
>>124686885
Will the get togheter be all day today at Kateen?
With people just coming and going, fleeting like the beta?
Or will be a meeting just like last one at Klaipeda?
>>124687019I don't think I saw you at the first get together
What to expect at the last meetup:
>Banquet
>Heavy drinking
>Love confessions
>Kissing
>Couples going into the squire tent together
>More drinking
>Crying
>Rape
>Cuteposting devolving into sadposting in real time
>>124687251
I'd like to get a specific time for another meetup at Kateen. A couple people, myself included, couldn't log on to our mains after too much advancement quest abuse, but maintenance seems to have fixed that, and I'd like a picture in my cute Chronomancer outfit.
>>124687304
>Cuteposting devolving into sadposting in real time
Oh god no pls
>>124687316
Chronomancer outfits should be earned not exploited
>>124687283
Understandable, I stood at the back saluting in Klaipedia rather than near the front
>>124687243
I see. I hope everything goes well for you.
>Someone in /tosg/ will get a confession from a person they've never met today.
>>124684654
I plan on doing this but I may end up getting zombies and resetting out of them later. Leveling with just Zaibas and Effigy alone isn't fun.
>>124687354
>Honest, hard-working outfits
>>124687427
Chronomancer specifically, it's special
Depressed anon are you here? Are you okay with the server going down for awhile? I'm worried about you.
>>124687251
Server shutdown is scheduled for 11pm EST (server time) on Wednesday.
No specific timing, so just be there a few hours before then if you want to be sure. Keep an eye on the thread, people might just start swarming in spontaneously. We're all just going to ride it out to the end anyway.
BYOB
>>124684506
플레이그닥터
pheul-le-i-geu-dak-theo
Google translate doesn't get konglish half the time, especially with uncommon words like plague. They also often do konglish based on the pronounciation rather than how it's written because korean doesn't do differences in pronounciation the same way english do. There's a few edge cases but most of the time you pronounce letters the same way.
>>124687519
I would have done it 10 years ago if I really wanted to kill myself. Fear of the unknown and botched attempts are what prevent me from doing it.
>>124687537
>/tosg/ has to be up before noon
We should probably do our goodbyes now
>>124687598
Well okay, just take care of yourself buddy. I'm sure we'll be back online before you know it. Good luck anon.
>>124687613
11PM anon
That's nighttime
>>124687689
Oh woops. Good, I really didn't want to wake up early.
>>124687304
more than 2 ppl.
>>124687858
>falling for the "Don't roll on Gabija" meme
>>124687858
Just make an alt and run here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRwRlicEmw
>ToSbase still hasn't updated skill simulator
>>124687858
Which server are you on? I want to to do something for team Zemyna anons too, though I think almost everyone there already quit.
>>124687858
So, in the end what had happened to 'death'?
The only groups running bosses on lamia before the exploit were fate, boss and sandwich's group. Your group suddenly disappeared it seemed.
>>124687316
>>124687537
Well, I'll be at home in about 10h from now, so I'll just be there after getting home and stay there for some hours then
>>124688090
Flash is working on it interally, he'll release it to the public soon, was just waiting for r7 skill infos.
So.. How many hours left till it ends?
>>124688142
Alright, thanks. I wish they'd just give us this information, greed gooks.
>▲ Dragoon
>Dragoons are elite spear-wielding soldiers. They will gain more bonuses if they use two-handed spears instead of one-handed ones.
>>124687927
wasn't that, was just 2 fast at server start
>>124687992
it's not the same
>>124688097
L.
>>124688116
kid's drama, exploit made one quit, and no interests in bosses since we got the items we did need and had no money problem, then decided to lvl alt. Now we're in town sitting around doing nothing.
>>124688216
are you WannaDie?
>>124688242
dropped
corsair c3 it is
>>124688216
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20151209T23&p0=904&msg=ToS+2nd+iCBT+Closure&font=slab&csz=1&swk=1
>>124688090
>check ToSbase for classes
>page is an ugly clusterfuck and nothing but female characters
>▲ Musketeer
>Musketeers are the gunner class that uses a rifle. They cannot wield it along with a bow but the musket has high attack speed and effective close-quarter combat skills.
Scout? Rogue?
>>124688116
>>124688249
oh and I have no idea who 'death' is
>>124688097
I have my lv200 alch on Zemyna, but also have my honest and hard-worked character on Gabija.
There shouldn't be enough people from here o Zemyna, so I think they should make a character on Gabi and simply run there
If anyone shows up late, I (or some other anon) can even escort them there with my honest lv20 haste. When I get home, that is.
>/tosg/ beta end party
>server clock hits 0
>all anons get sucked into the database to become their characters and star in their very own retarded "Trapped in an MMORPG universe" anime
Get hype
>>124688292
No.
>>124688242
>>124688298
>People honestly thing Arde Dagger will be even a little good later on
Thaum buffs I guess, but come on
>>124688242
Yep, it's shit.
>Or raise unique companions.
>The crop materials and companions can be obtained from various guild events
>A guild master can choose in which guild events to participate. The events will consist of boss raid events, raid missions for guilds, GvG events.
>>124688361
Well, if you get people together that are on Laima, I'll hop over the gathering on there for a bit on my Necromancer whenever you guys pick a time for it
>>124688379
Sasuga Ainz-sama
>>124688379
If that happens I will personally kiss Cattly
>>124688390
are you kidding?
nothing fucking scales in this game
lvl 180+ enemies are the same as lvl 80 enemies
shit doesn't matter, multihit spam + meme damage stacking will always be king unless they just remove that shit and buff every skill in the game
>>124688361
Sorry misspelt,
Dæth or perhaps something similar was the name of your group was it not?
>>124688324
Scout obviously.
>>124688324
Shit.
>>124688379
>trapped with my shitty build and no money
rip
>Guilds can grow their guild towers by feeding them talt items obtained from those events. As guild level increases, points will be accumulated and you can use those points to grow your guild.
>There are many ways a guild can grow. A guild can specialize in agriculture or in combat.
>Guilds can declare war with each other. Warring guilds can destroy each other’s guild tower or PVP the enemy members on fields.
>There aren’t many things that can be obtained by winning this war so it would be good for everyone to get along well each other.
>>124688495
We will see
>>124688324
Canoneer would be able to actually use skills from the previous classes you've taken so you roll that.
>>124688475
>kissing peeenoys
>>124688315
Feel free to contribute to their wiki instead of being an ungrateful little cunt.
>>124688242
>>124688298
The Elements spear we already have is already better than any 1h spear + Karacha combo.
Shields are massively underestimated in this game, though.
>>124688459
Can I have a hamster companion?
So did anyone actually get banned yet? No anon fearmongering shitposts without screenies/proof.
>>124688589
We can already see, go to the last map in the game and kill the mobs, then go back to constructors chapel or something.
The hp barely changes, except for those random ass overtuned mobs with like 200x hp.
>>124688662
Nope.
>>124688686
We
Will see
>>124688575
>>There aren’t many things that can be obtained by winning this war so it would be good for everyone to get along well each other.
>so it would be good for everyone to get along well each other
rip ToS
No wonder these idiot devs were kicked out from RO.
>>124688660
Yes. You can raise one, or raid another guild for them.
>>124688662
Still using my Rank 9 Fencer anon
>>124688646
elements sucks
has less base dmg than a 1h spear lol
brandish shits on it and you can use a meme dagger
>>124688495
well memed, my friend
>>124688751
hey, that's just what they want, you can still beat the shit out of other guilds without mercy
>>124688758
>not using c3 corsair with brandish+manamana
>>124688751
>you can grow the "Tree of Savior" in the guild farm
>growing the Tree of Savior wins the game and resets the server
>7. OBT Schedule
>So far, we have not advertised our game except for one case of an interview. We would like to thank all the users who showed love and enthusiasm for our game despite that.
>The open beta test is scheduled to be on December 17th, 2015, 2PM. The pre-download will be made available on December 15th, two days prior to the test. The pre-download version will allow players to gain access to the tutorial area.
>More details on the schedule will be made known through future announcements.
>Thank you.
>>124688758
>only 1 (one) Brandish on all servers
>>124688751
Actually non point based GvG in the fields sounds Lineage 2/WoW vanilla. I'm ok with this.
You'll fight over boss and grind/farm spots plus other dramas, this is good.
>>124688575
>>There aren’t many things that can be obtained by winning this war so it would be good for everyone to get along well each other.
Oh, now
I can't wait for /tosg/ to go to war with Reddit's guild.
Which will win? Numbers, or autism and NEET stats?
>>124688517
Wasn't it Disgaea?
>>124688862
This is for korean only right? Please, tell me it isn't.
>/tosg/ guild
>that one faggot who keeps forgetting to water the guild plants on his turn
>>124688909
if history is any indication /vg/ is awful at anything that requires coordination and effort
an online community that does that well is somethingawful's, which nobody here will be part of because we're all too autistic / socially awkward / don't give enough fucks
>>124688909
No one can win with my SPR build.
>>124688936
Future thread OP please.
>>124688979
The post said its for Korean OBT
>>124688981
>joining erp guild
kek it's like you hate yourself
>>124689089
No way they'll do international OBT at the same time as kOBT, that's asking to not sleep for three weeks.
>>124689132
>that's asking to not sleep for three weeks
what?
>>124689219
I think he's saying they'd be hilariously overworked
>>124689132
Yeah. If we were getting it, it would have been announced already
>>124688874
>bugged drop rate
>implying you won't farm for it when shit isn't getting wiped
>corsair c3 can use pistol >>124688849
tfw nobody is appreciating the fact IMC is giving us an international/english beta for free and so early in the game development, despite all its flaws, and would rather shit on the devs.
Meanwhile, NCSoft is selling pre-order to access CBT of a fucking 5 years old generic Koreammo.
>>124689357
How would the Double Attack work with a pistol?
>>124689357
It has an attribute for it, according to a kcbt anon, though it doesn't work (go figure) for now.
>>124689374
It's all perspective anon. I'd be almost entirely on their side, but with the kobt coming up, it does really worry me.
>>124689374
I'm grateful that I got to experience the beta at all, despite how unpolished and buggy it's been. That and how fun /tosg/ players have been to talk to and hang out with
>>124689408
same way except you shoot the gun :^)
>>124689296
>IMC
>giving a shit about iOBT other than breaking it on maint
>overworking
uh
>>124689374
hey, I missed you ians12917918271 how you doing?
>>124689374
>BNS
It may be five years old but generic is the one thing it isn't. It's the most successful MMO Korea's had for five years.
>>124689451
What did they break this maint?
Also I am disappointed, wizard classes do not show cleric amount of leg when mounted.
Does anyone have that cap from a guy saying that you need to be barbarian or swashbuckler or else you're not welcome in any party?
I need to fill up my ToS folder with screenshots, screecaps, and fanart.
>>124689374
>Years in development. Buggy as fuck, unresponsive gooks, meme weeaboo yes men moderator, all kinds of exploits flying around.
They fucking deserve it.
>>124689557
>What did they break this maint?
No idea, there's no point to logging in at this stage.
>>124689531
tab target quest hub no trinity mmo.
Sure is unique.
The only reason it's popular in Korea is the nice 1v1 and pvp combat. Muh esport
>>124689374
Notice how we're shitting on the devs now, after a full fucking month of them not listening and not fixing shit. Amazing how that works, huh?
LESS THAN TWO DAYS TO GET YOUR KISSING DONE YOU PATHETIC KISS VIRGINS
GET TO WORK
HOW CAN YOU BE IN THAT STATE SO CLOSE TO THE END OF ALL THINGS
>>124688324
What if you could backstab with a musket?
tfw no smug popolion emote
>>124689680
I like this side of you
>>124689557
Necromancer shows a lot of leg without mounting so it's probably okay
>>124689680
I'm saving my kiss for the last moments before the server goes down so it's like I'm kissing for eternity
>>124689374
>Meanwhile, NCSoft is selling pre-order to access CBT of a fucking 5 years old generic Koreammo.
Already successful generic kMMO with 5 years of LIFE with already cash shop services
vs
Flopping on korea BETA kMMO with no cash shop services
Not that you are wrong, but there are things to consider
>>124689680
You will never make me kiss
>>124689374
I appreciate the fact that I got to play it. I don't appreciate how they ignore all the criticism about the game from both Korean and International players. If they will continue on this course this game will be dead on arrival.
>>124689760
I was disappointed because I cannot get any more classes on my 200 which has probably 30 ranks.
>>124689761
A guy named squid would be proud
>>124689626
>Barbarian
>good
>>124689707
backstab with bayonet
more range
>>124689680
I'll keep it for myself. The only person that I would kiss is myself.
>>124689821
Warcry and Frenzy are pretty cool
>>124689626
Thanks. This one has always rustled me.
I should've started to archive this stuff sooner.
>>124689851
Yeah, on Corsair. Barb doesn't get much use out of them. Frenzy is actually annoying even on Doppel because you have to autoattack for frenzy stacks to build, instead of just spinning and having every hit build a Frenzy stack.
>Caring about this shitty questing game when Black Desert is confirmed to be fixed in the Western release
>>124689680
I waited but nobody came.
I waited for so long.
>>124689858
zip it and upload somewhere anon, or imgur
i like these pics too
>>124689851
>Warcry 40s uptime every 80s
>Frenzy requires you to autoattack 20 times
They're alright.
>>124676026
Cattly and Protagonist
I nominate STAFF_JOHN for /tosg/ guild leader.
>>124689954
Like anyone gives a shit about that anymore.
>>124689954
>fixed
>They increased potion cooldown from 3 to 5s
Good luck with that game.
>>124689904
I'm fine auto attacking to build the stacks, honestly. I play Fencer, though, and a Warcry with max attributes and Frenzied Sept Etoiles on a debuffed target into Lunge into Flancconade is pretty amazing damage if you've got Cleave mixed in before the Sept Etoiles
>>124688909
our wiz3 army with EQ 15 will stomp them
>>124690021
EQ 20 you mean
EQ 15 is so last weak
>>124689993
20 stacks is cool, but you only need 10 and the attribute. That might be half the boost of non-attributed, but that's still +200. Warcry debuffing the target for -30 physical while giving you that plus an additional 30 from the attribute is nice.
Again, though, I play a Fencer and fully buffing a Sept Etoiles is pretty nice
>>124688575
So as I understand it, a guild tower is a physical structure that you place on actual field maps. What happens when it's destroyed? Do you lose access to the guild base, or lose upgrade and such?
>>124688909
Decent players won't join /tosg/ guild so it will lose horribly.
>>124690010
>They added Dragon's Dogma-tier nights back, put up a paywall to keep faggy BRs out, lowered PvP level requirements and karma loss, removed the highest level potion to further stem spamming, disabled or made optional the shitty GvG glows and boss monster raving, fixed the UI, switched to regular server structure with no channel system, slowed down levelling, pushing player-player trading back in, removing scroll bosses and reintegrating as world bosses, hopefully bringing back localized markets and carriage banditry, and added a dog
Yeah m8 that's pretty fucking fixed I'd say.
>>124689839
>bayonet thrust exists
>there's no bayonet in the gun model
Still, archerc2>sapperc2>roguec2>musketeer could be legit then, assuming muskets are 2h weapons
Ok, I don't know what they did to Cartar Stroke with Collision Course, but it's weird as hell now against the target dummies in Highlander House.
It does only two hits. The first hit does 1 damage as usual, and then the second hit did 289 for me.
>>124690223
>changed quests that were icky and problematic
Yeah mate it's pozzed.
>>124690021
>A small group of extremely overleveled autists runs towards a large group of memesters
>Launches entire group in the air with a perfectly synchronized QC EQ15
>5% of the group's health is missing as the autists panic and start charging energy bolts
>One anon quickly types ">We fell for the-" before the entire cluster of autists is wiped out
>>124690340
???
>>124690279
looks like 1h here
>>124690340
That's Blade & Soul you dumb beaner.
>>124690451
Where do I get black chupa ears.
>>124690495
They're just cat ears, man
>>124690467
Ah, you're right. Sorry that I'm retarded.
>>124690495
Those are cat ears. None of that filthy desert dog/fox thing.
>>124690568
The chupa ears are pretty cute, though. I don't use them, but they're cute
Goodnight /tosg/, my dear friends
Is it normal if my heart stars racing and my breathing rate elevates when sharisng a kiss!? It's just pixels on a monitor, why am I getting to flustered!?
>>124690609
Good night friend.
>>124690609
goodnight to you too, my friend.
>>124690624
I'm sure having an elevated heart and breathing rate is normal for you due to extreme obesity and lack of physical activity.
>>124690703
it's hilarious people say this cause most erp fuccbois I meet are skeleton mode
>>124690624
Sometimes, just looking at people who I've kissed in the past makes my heart race.
>>124689626
fucking lel i know that guy from laima
btw compiling some OC for you guys that i've saved over the month
Post your kOBT classes/builds fellas.
>>124691495
Archerc2-sapperc3-falconerc2
>>124691495
Wiz3->Link3->Chrono2
Haste will have 100% uptime and will always be useful no matter what setting.
The build will be future proof.
>>124691495
Sword 1 -> High 1 -> Barb 2 -> Hop 2 -> Drag
>>124691495
Sword > Pelt > Hop3 > Doppel > Doppel/Dragoon
Cleric2 > Krivis2 > Priest2 > Kabbalist
Anything that can be used with muskets > Musketeer
>>124691646
Not sure if meme
>>124691495
wait, anyone will be able to play?
>>124691714
http://www.newgameway.com/product.php?gid=178
>>124691495
cleric > krivis > krivis > bokor > bokor > bokor > plague doctor
>>124684210
>wrapping paper makes you not lose potential, becomes a commodity item
>>124691802
OP build confirmed.
>>124691778
You don't need a VPN, right?
Official English guidelines about kOBT
http://blog.treeofsavior.com/en/
>>124691495
Cleric > Cleric 2 > Krivis > Priest > Priest 2 > Pardoner > Kabbalist
>>124691841
So far nope, but it's not impossible they set up an IP block if the servers are flooded with foreigner.
My order from newgameway is still processing, I'll post here when my account is ready.
>>124691620
>>124691495
Also something into fencerc2, most likely involving barbarian if there aren't better alternatives. For wizard, maybe some silly support oriented build with linker and chrono, maybe thauma and featherfoot if links work with those heals. Plague doctor looks cool, but the idea of running a build with classes of the same religion sounds fun
>>124691871
Holy shit they still update the old blog.
Thanks for this anon. I love you.
>>124691495
Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Linker > Thaum > Alch > Featherfoot
>>124691871
so we're all starting from Orsha right?
>>124691495
Sword -> Peltasta -> Barb C3 -> Fencer C2
Not decided on my wizard but it will go Cryo C3, just not sure how I want to follow it up this time. I wasn't gonna play KOBT, but my backlog isn't enticing enough to fill the void quite as much as I'd like, and I refuse to pick up my old MMO again for quite a while
>>124692020
Of course.
>>124690005
I nominate double-agent reddit moderator.
>>124691871
>The musket has high attack speed
>>124685430
hi kada
>>124692303
Higher attack speed buffs still doesn't work
>>124691495
Trying to decide between..
Wiz > Cryo > Linker > Psychokino > Chrono3
Wiz > Cyro > Linker > Ele3 > Warlock
Chrono is really neato, but I always tend to gravitate towards high damage casters no matter what I do. Tough choice.
>>124692303
They traveled around the world for this amount of accuracy anon.
Did you?
tfw our GM is a troll
>>124691495
Wizard > Cryo C3 > Chrono C2 > Warlock
I would pick Chrono C3 at rank 7, but my dps is lacking;-;
>>124691890
Well, a VPN is an incredibly easy work-around anyway, I was just curious as to whether I'd need to use my old one. I haven't needed to bother since last May
>>124691495
Sword -> Highlander2 -> Rodelero3 -> Anything
>>124692395
I bet he has9gag next to /vg/bookmarked.
>>124691890you buy the nexon account or kOBT account?
>>124692617
Latest blog post implies they expect foreigners on their OBT.
Also IMC always was lenient when it came to IP blocks, they didn't care. Now Nexon are nazis about it, we'll see.
So the only non-trash 7rank is a Jew?
>>124692708
That's the same thing. a KR Nexon account will grant you access to any Nexon game, including ToS.
>>124692825
Plague Doc and Featherfags are potentially good too.
>>124692831
nexon is 11$ while kOBT is $9.9
Slowpoke here
>All players will meet in Fedimian at level ~220 (Rank 4).
What ? C4 at level 220 ? I assume they seriously buffed the exp rates, otherwise, this will be incredibly boring.
>>124692953
They did
>>124692908
>Featherfags
>good
Not really.
>>124692937
That's an oversight probably or a shady way to make extra dosh.
>>124692953
>Fedimian
>220
Try 110, unless they're buffing mobs too
>>124681303
Correct. What goes in the box vendors from the box. We cant dip our jew hands into our own box sadly.
>>124692953
It's an error, should say level 80ish.
>>124693009
Considering it's the only access to heals as a Wiz, yes.
>>124680580
>>124680103
Take it from someone who went Krivis 3.
Divine might is hilariously good when you get it on your party. Its usually simple to do too. Just land it on a boss trap or a stam crystal and wack it until it dies. The resist that it gets though is kinda stupid.
>>124692953
I hope they remove repetitive boss fights, space them out and actually make the boss fights more threatening.
>>124691495
Sword>Pelt>Hoplite 3>Fencer 2
Wish they'd make Syncro Thrusting to work with rapiers so I don't waste 15 skill points.
Hoplite's piercing skills, on paper, should work well with Fencer's Coquille and Preparation buffs.
>>124693107
>Considering it's the only access to heals as a Wiz, yes.
>Alchemists potions
>>124693201
you cant cast finestra when using rapier
>>124693201
But you can't use spear lunge and finestra without a spear
Can anyone post the 2nd Prison map?
Forgot to save it.
>>124693331
I was thinking of maxing Stabbing and Pierce (And Synchro if they change things up). Are those two not worth 3 ranks?
It would be really boring if Barbarian is the only complementary class for Fencer.
>>124693201
Preparation only works on the first hit
>>124693465
Pierce C2 for the boss attribute, otherwise no. They only get an increase in flat damage, no additional hits.
>>124693321
>>124693331
Not him, but what are the options for fencer then? Rodelero uses shields, squire is full support, catas aren't an option, you'd only get hoplites for two skills, peltastas use shields and thus wouldn't be worth investing more than one circle on, highlanders seem to be centered on 2h. That leaves only barbarian, corsair and doppelsöldner
>>124693465
Highlander would work too. Honestly you would just need buffs from other classes to complement Fencer. You already get two 0 CD skills, I hardly even use skills from lower paths aside from swash and buffs
>>124693591
barb c3 into fencer is pretty good
>>124682469
>>124682325
>>>/reddit/
>>124693591
Highlanders aren't weapon locked. Only thing you need from pelt is swash and guardian, in which you don't need a shield for. Barb is good for War Cry and Frenzy, attack skills are optional.
my experiences in tos
>>124693638
I don't like being restricted to only one option, even musketeer seems to have more compatibility with previous classes than Fencer
>>124693726
Throw Cleave in, too, I guess. +50 to crit rate might not sound like a lot, but it's nice to have up leading into Sept Etoiles
>>124693591
Peltesta
>>124693591
Is that 15% more damage when not using shield really significant?
I thought about trying a tanky/evasive fencer build with peltasta and rodelero.
>>124693810
Yeah, that too. And honestly Cleave and Seism looks great with a Rapier, it looks classy coming from a Barbarian tree if you put on a Fencer outfit
>>124693858
It's pretty significant, especially backed by the bonus fire damage from Karacha
>>124693792
do you have anything against my grita potentia?
>>124693604
>Honestly you would just need buffs from other classes to complement Fencer
I was actually thinking of the opposite (Fencer's bufs complementing earlier skills) because of Coquille, Lunge, and preparation.
Add in also the fact that the 0CD skills cost a fuckton of SP for the damage they do. DPS wise, they're great but they cost 40 SP at Lv 1 (and 140 on Lv 20). I actually read somewhere that they should be consuming STA instead of SP, but what happened to that concept?
I actualy felt discouraged to use the 0 CD skills despite how fun they are but changing my build to stack SPR seems unfun.
>>124693794
Then don't go fencer.
>>124693858
>fencing with shields
Sounds gay as fuck desu. Not to mention the class seems to have skills that increase block rate already, you know, parrying the attacks.
>>124693871
Cleave always looked classy. Suits Fencer really well when you're basically spinning around into a ballet.
>>124693871
>>124694059
Helm Chopper looks pretty good with a rapier, too. Fencer has really grown on me and I can't help but love it and its animations
>>124694123
in granado espada, fencer characters were my favorite
>>124693998
The buff doesn't work without a shield
>>124693976
The SP consumption isn't that much when you hit 170. You get a natural pool of 1.2k SP. And unless you're spamming Falconmade on a world boss, mobs would be dead before you feel it straining on your sp pool
>>124694157
Fencers have always been a favourite for me. I usually go with a mage or gunner in most games, but out of any melee option I'd take a rapier-user. Now I just want to make Fencer my main in ToS
>>124693858
>>124693998
>not using arde/karacha/venom
>>124693976
>(and 140 on Lv 20)
The most you can get with Falconmade is level 12 naturally with gears if you get to C2, lvl 20 was an exploit. And even then its debatable really if its worth putting more than one level in it. It already hits 2k with a normal rapier.
>>124693934
id buy it if i had the money
also pic related
>>124693792
>no dickerror, translated dick and new dick
>>124691871
>Now your characters can advance to the rank 7 along with two other circles for Rank 6.
I am unsure as to what that is implying.
>>124694285
It is an option if you want to tank, weapon switching is a thing anon
>>124694348
I think it means you can take rank 6 classes to circle 2 now, which seems like a redundant thing to include
>>124694179
Maybe I was just stingy on SP potions (poor as fuck on Silver), since a large SP potion could get me from 0 to 100 quickly.
>>124694123
I really liked Fencer, the costume made me go after it for this beta, but after getting a Rodelero outfit, the latter suits Rapiers more, but that's just me.
>>124694396
I CAN SPIN FOR TEN SECONDS NOW
>>124694371
You don't even need a shield to tank a single thing in our version. I tank as a fencer with no points in CON outside of gear bonuses, and use a rapier+Karacha. Guardian+Lunge and at least some dex will let you dodge basically anything any of the bosses do. Flanconnade lets you block without a shield, and I've had way too much fun blocking attacks in huge mob pulls. Helps, of course, that Swash gives the bonus HP, but tanking at my 13k HP is enough
Sad fact, the job advancement exploit wont work if you're a total of rank 6 now.
>>124694347
>no "sorry xD" either
I missed a lot of those. This beta was a complete mess.
>>124694453
nice honest and hard working build
>>124694453
You're a madman
>>124690280
Looks like what Collision Course does now is add an extra hit on top of the old one that is 50% of the calculated damage. This was probably what it used to do before, but my guess is it was wrongly calculated as a regular hit.
What they changed is now the new hits appear to ignore defense and do exactly 50% of the damage of the hit it comes after, which is why they do full damage to the training dummies.
>>124686739
Sure
>>124694720
>exactly 50% of the damage of the hit it comes after
After watching it again it's 50% of the attack damage and doesn't appear to crit.
I have a confession to make.I like Peltasta 3.
What if magic is now blockable, but it just reduces damage?
>another maintenance done and market still wasnt fixed
Is there something wrong with them?
>tfw only friends with a few people
>tfw only one online
>tfwstill no info on squire 3 skills
I'll miss ToS.
>>124694835
Why? I don't know much about Peltastas other than their swashbuckling skill is a 1 rank wonder.
>>124692764
Some kr nexon game do have an ipblock
I assume its up to what dev want, nexon will follow it
>>124694856
I still wouldn't take a shield because none of the magic attacks in our version have caused me enough trouble. When a shield off-sets the rapier attribute and dagger's bonus, I'll be willing to use one. But I'm also never willing to weapon swap mid-combat or something because fuck murdering my own buffs
>>124694835
>>124694914
because Umbo Thrust? It's the best armor breaking skill in the game! I dont see why you wouldn't like it. But before you get that skill, Pelt is a living hell.
>>124694989
How long does it last?
>>124694989
This. Peltasta 3 is pretty awesome support because of Umbo Thrust. I didn't really like my solo experiences with it though.
>>124694959
We will get an Arde Shield and Karacha Shield in OBT
>>124694959
>When a shield off-sets the rapier attribute and dagger's bonus
I actually had a shitty idea where there's another attribute that gives you bonus Slash and/or Strike damage for not using a dagger as a sub weapon. Gives way for shield fencers, and possibly empty off-hand fencers (which would look cool).
>>124695126
It would need to be a Hell of a jump over a Karacha Dagger if it wants to off-set using a dagger and getting the rapier attribute
>>124695126
I'd rather a 3 slot shield for 3 crit rate gems, personally.
>everything is fixed they said
>would ban people who abused the exploit they said
What a load of bullocks
>>124695191
How about Umbo Thrust + Whatever the hell Fencer skills are >>124694989
>>124695080
Atleast 14 seconds. Its 2 overheat too.
>>124695267
>wasting support time on a 1 day ban
why bother
>>124695282
Usable thrice? That's amazing. Does it always debuff? The skill tooltip makes it sound like it's a random chance.
Imagine this.
-3 pyro 2 whatever (probably one linker and 2 psyko) chrono 3. They can basically chain pass to infinity to the whole party
-One random cleric, his main goal is to spam safety wall non stop thanks to pass.
-1 Pyro Thauma 3 to raise the damage to a even higher level of stupidity while stil dishing a ton of damage himself.
>>124695184
The only skills in Fencer's toolkit that would benefit are Flanconnade and Attaque Coquille. Even the Fencer C2 skill is Pierce, so it benefits more from the the attribute, and Sept Etoiles really benefits from it.
Giving an attribute like that would just mean Sept loses quite a bit of damage and Seism picks up more. It'd also mean spamming Flanconnade more, I guess
>>124694989
Langort is really decent, Buttefly is bugged sadly, High Guard Umbo Blow deals a lot of damage. Maxed Swashbuckling.
>>124695080
2×15 seconds, 25 second CD. About the same as Skull Swing.
>>124695367
Its 2 overheat so usable only twice. 25 cd and quite high chance to destroy armor. I had never experienced my umbo thrust failing to destroy armor in 2 overheat. Most of the time I keep 2nd overheat to bash the boss again before hitting cd.
>>124695282
Is the armor break effect similar to Skull Swing? The description of "May Remove Armor Effects" is vague to me.
>>124695408
Difference is Skull Swing is 40s cd and no overheat. Of course, the high damage skills are the trade-off.
What does Langort do?
>>124695272
Give me a shield that has a hug Dex bonus, a Str bonus about half the dex one, and a huge chunk of poison damage, with the ability to block magic and then I'll use that shield over a dagger
>>124694317
>pic related
don't remind me, made me giggle though.
Dagger was a mistake
So I bought a Nexon KR account on Newgameway 5 hours ago. I just received my crendentials, can confirm it's legit.
>>124696043
Dagger is not a mistake, they just need to buff single hit skills and add shield and 2h item variety.
>>124688575
>open pvp and destroying the enemy guilds
>you can't refuse guild wars
>your guild is going to be destroyed by BRs if you don't make alliances to keep your enemies in checksend help
>>124696043
The only mistake is making autos for wizards all magic type.
>>124696156
Keep your enemies close anon
>>124696043
No, centralizing everything around adding an elemental property to your attacks was the mistake.
The fact losing Karacha would mean my Sept Etoiles would lose its rapier attribute bonus is a pain. What would suck on top of that is the sudden lack of 153 fire on every single stab it does
>>124696164
Magic and strike at the same time. Wizard autos have an advantage over most because you get a bonus +50% on both plate armoured enemies and ghost ones like Necroventer
>>124696094
It's only for OBT? Can you play KCBT?
>>124696212
It's still shitty, especially if you have high ping. Even with low ping you could get 2-3 normal autos out before one wiz auto finishes.
>>124695563
Langort does x (x∈<2, 4>) stab hits with decent damage. The number of hits it does is weird, I've seen it hit twice, and four times, no idea.
>>124696256
It's not possible to register for kTest server anymore.
>>124696296
Is it like Pierce where the size of the enemy affects how many hits it does?
>>124696156
Just hide the tower where BRs can't find it.
>>124696296
Sounds like how Ice Pike's hits depend on size
>>124696369
>>124696421
Oh, no. All tests were in PvP.
Might be lag and few hits being lumped together.
>>124688909
source?
>>124696479
I should also mention that Squire C2 quest wasn't actually hard. I was surprised at damage I dealt as Peltasta C3 with level 1 sword.
I wanna play either as a Musketeer or Cannoneer in the beta, but unsure of few things.
Can I use Musket skills with bows and bow skills with musket?
Canon is offhand weapon, right? which forces you to only use xbow?
Daily reminder that Squires are officially useless.
>>124689374
Go back to the forums to suck their cock you retard.
>>124696717
You can use bow skills with musket but not the other way around.
Musket is two-handed.
>>124696756
Salty much?
>>124696737
Doesn't matter. I'm still gonna main squire 3.
>>124696717
Musketeer can't use archer skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39peGXvp1A
and also cannoneer skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_7Hb51yi9Q
>>124696825
>You can use bow skills with musket
Are you sure? it's just I saw few screenshots in one of the threads where bow skills were greyed out. I didn't follow discussions closely though.
>tfw crio(3)>linker>pyro>warlock is going to be the new meta for ball stacking
>>124696968
Well, maybe not all bow skills, gotta check the stance description on tosbase (when/if it's updated), but I know you can use multishot with a musket.
>>124696968
musketeer will be new archer meme class
>>124696737
USELESS
>>124697135
Thanks for polishing my spear at a reasonable price.
38 hours left
>>124694720
>memelander
so imc nerfed
>>124697135
Say what you will about IMC, but they certainly polished the character animations.
kTEST Update: Planned changes for skills.
Skills are going to be moved around for a 'balance adjustment'.
http://pastebin.com/2Z2qKYSA
>Sorcerer C2
-Attack Ground
-Hold
-Morph
-Obey
>Chronomancer C3
-Backmasking
>Necromancer C2
-Disinter (W H Y)
-Corpse Tower
>Necromancer C3
-Raise Dead
>Alchemist C2
-Gem Roasting
>Alchemist C3
-Magnum Opus
>Fletcher C3
-Singijeon
>Monk C3
-Golden Bell Shield
>Druid C2
-Sterea Trofh
-Chortasmata (W H Y)
>Oracle C2
-Death Sentence
>Rogue C3
- Burrow (+ some features to change)
- Some changes will be made to Burrow and skill usage
That is all.
>where were you when druid and necromancer were 'balanced'
>no swordsman changes
>thanks IMC
>>124697482
There's a ridiculous amount of animation in this game. The attention to detail is impressive.
>>124697518
>Carnivory still c1
>When it fucking needs Chortasmata to cast
WHY
>>124697518
And Squrie c3?
>>124697518
>Chortasmata
Goddamnit, IMC, there goes my build.
>>124697518
>Druid
rip
skipped for Kabbalist then
no way am I taking that at rank 7
>>124697518
>Sorcerer C2 is laughable
>Necro C2 moved Corpse Hero and then stuck skeletons in C3
Am I meant to laugh at Sorcerer just being a pointless move around or cry at Necro actually having a fucking awful one?
>>124697518
>Necromancer C3
>-Raise Dead
Rank 8? So you mean to tell me rank 7s(canon,jew) will have 2 ranks in krobt?
>>124697518
Swordies already had skills adjusted (read: added new ones)
Comfy.
>>124697518
Why would they move Chorta to C2 when you need it to cast Carnivory (a C1 skill)?
I wonder if Doppel c2 skills are good, since Swordie rank 7 classes suck dick.
>>124697736
You can still cast it on grass.
>>124697736
>>124697624
Can you not cast it on random grass?
>>124697767
>>124697774
Which makes it fucking useless now.
>>124697686
I don't even know, looks like they're intending to just move some skills out of reach.
>>124697698
What are you talking about?
>>124697736
>>124697646
You can just use the terrain grass lolLike there are any grass in dungeons and higher level maps
Fucking IMC
>>124697518
>Sorcerer C2
>-Attack Ground
>-Hold
Sorcerer C1 is kill?
>>124697862
Sorcerer C1 didn't get scratched because none of those skills are actually necessary whatsoever. It's more like C2 adds a void of "well this is kinda neat?" skills
>>124697804
There is grass everywhere. Tell your tank to lure them there.
>>124697518
Still no info on scout getting moved up some ranks?
Or at least the invi going to c3?
>>124697914
>As if shitters listen in parties.
>>124697816
Corsair got a new skill.
Fencer got 2 new.
Doppel will get 3 new.
Squire will get 1 new.
>>124697862
C1 has Ride.
>>124697976
Was talking in the context of this planned update.
But yeah, they'll get new skills eventually.
>>124697906
>>124698037
never play sorc before, doesn't the summoned Boss AI needs Attack Ground to work properly?
>>124698037
No, Obey is Ride. It's the only thing that hurts C1, but not enough to make a difference outside of clusterfuck mobbing now requiring C2
The fact they did not move Familiar or Servant is a mistake for balancing
They should also raise Zaibas to C2 and cleric might be balanced.
>>124697518
>Sorc
>The "nobody cares unless you go afk" spells were moved around, wew
>Chrono
>Expected
>Necro
>I guess they cant bring their usefulness back to life
>Alch
>Expected
>Fletcher and Monk
>whatever
>Druid
>My sides
>Oracle
>nobody cares
>Rogue
>nobody cares
>>124698263
Pretty much my reaction when I was reading that. People are a bit annoyed at Fletcher's changes in the Tester Forums.
I don't get why they moved Disinter and Chortasmata up a circle.
>>124697518
>Druid C1
>Literally just transform
Can musketeer Kneel shoot?
>>124698343
>I don't get why they moved Disinter and Chortasmata up a circle.
Actually, I can understand Disinter a little, it makes Gather Corpse useful.
Chortasmata's change just makes playing Druid as an INT Caster a lot harder now as you have to invest two ranks into that.
>>124698263
Ride/Obey being moved dents DPS on big pulls.
For Necro, that severely gimped the class. They didn't do anything to balance Decay, but moving skeletons to C3 is hilarious, while putting Corpse Tower in C2 is just depressing. Disinter should not even exist but hey, let's stick it in C2 so it can contribute absolutely fucking nothing to that circle.
>>124698418
>makes Gather Corpse useful
But that still isn't useful because you can buy the corpses
>>124698389
They kneel shot while auto-attacking:^)
>>124698443
>But that still isn't useful because you can buy the corpses
Oh yeah, good point. I totally forgot.
>>124697852
>>124697767
>>124697914
Grass detection in this game is bad though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXOH4lvGQBA
>>124697518
>Oracle C2
>Death Sentence
How to make a useless class even more useless.
Seriously, oracle should be c3 at best.
>>124698472
The Archer C2 skill kneeling shot?
>>124697518
>Sorcerer C2
JUST
>>124698106
So for c1 sorc you literally only get summoning, summon familiars, summon salamion and summon servant? Guess I'm not taking sorc then on release.
>>124698472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C39peGXvp1A
But it looks fine here
>IMC in charge of balancing
you guys still have hopes for these people?
>>124698759
I don't.
But it's a free game so I will play it with friends hoping that Nexon will fire devs and new team will fix most of stuff.
>>124698669
Correct, but what got moved wasn't large enough to justify dropping it. If you go C2 to get Ride then you end up with 10 familiars and a level 10 summon.
I'm more upset by their rebalancing of Necro than I am Ride being moved.
A C2 Necro's Corpse Tower would be level 5. That's the same Corpse Tower we already have and that will drop off really quickly. Had it been a level 10 Corpse Tower, it would have lived in usefulness. Skeletons were outright removed from access with that change. Yes, they were buggy as fuck, but they were MY buggy as fuck soldiers. Disinter contributes absolutely nothing to C2. It contributed absolutely nothing before, but now when you advance to C2 Necro you are doing it for Flesh Cannon, Flesh Hoop, Corpse Tower level 5 and Shoggoth.
The only real change is that this means if you go Necro, you are better off pumping points into Shoggoth because you have nothing else to really spend those points on once Flesh Cannon and Hoop and padded and Dirty Pole has some points
>>124698712
reminder that videos like these break NDA
>>124698759
Outside of not moving carnivory up instead of chortasmata it's pretty reasonable changes.
>>124698938
HONEST
HARD-WORKING
TESTERS
*are padded
Hell, the only reason Dirty Pole is more necessary now is because you're essentially forced to make the most of Decay's application to make up for the loss in DPS
>>124696397
So somewhere clean and full of rat poison. Maybe in a library.
>Kabbalists are the clerics that practice the ancient magic known as Kabbalah. They either support their allies with infinite power or analyze the enemies’ names to aid them in combat.
Yes yes, analyze them to death
>>124699154
>They either support their allies with infinite power
Guess they really nailed that with Ayin Sof.
>tfw plannign to go sorcC2->necroC2
>>124696156
Just like EVE Online
Anybody knows what's the point of hexing with featherfoot skills? Don't tell me it's to be a support bitch for bokors (just like that one warlock skill is to help paladins).
>>124699271
You can't do that until they announce rank 8.
I need to see more of Warlock, but right now I'm tempted to say if you go Necro C1 you focus on Decay application so that Warlock might not completely suck. Because even if it does completely suck, Warlock gives a better toolkit than Necro C2 does
>>124697518
IMC are actually starting to piss me off. This is the kind of thing that's going to kill my interest in this game soon.
>>124697518
This makes wiz3>linker 3 even more future-proof.
thank you based imc!
>>124698936
Having played sorc1, I feel like having at least one of ride or hold in that tier is mandatory. The famililars and salamion nowhere near validate taking sorc over say linker 2 or pyro 3 at rank 5, especially considering how lackluster their auto attack damage is.
>>124699360
Kurdaitcha has an attribute which causes enemies afflicted with Hexing to take double damage.
It also lowers MDef and pairs well with Bokors.
>>124699795
I should also point out that it's a 3% chance for double damage with that attribute, it's not 100%.
>>124699653
>Pyro 3
It's more than enough. 5 familiars and a summon are more than enough to replace Pyro 3 and let you stick with Pyro 2. Servant not being moved is also enough to contribute thanks to buffing your whole party for SP recovery and make mobbing better with a small boost to AoE attack ratio.
Ride is the closest you have to a necessary skill there, but that was only true because of big mobbing. The damage from Riding in a boss fight, while nice, was not essential. Hold and Attack Ground really don't need to be picked up, even in this beta you could be fine without either so moving those alongside Morph is a silly decision in my eyes.
These are also all skills moved to C2 that you can only invest a single point in. This is a lack of balance because moving Familiar to C2 would mean that you'd have just 10 bats. You can now have 15 if you go 3 circles in Sorc
>>124699795
>>124699893
That's really underwhelming then (idea is good but % is far too low). Thanks.
>>124697518
>druid c2
Hey, now I don't have to think about what to take at r7, this is great.
>>124699293
There is no way in hell they would let us declare wars on just everyone, non-consensual pvp sounds way out of this game's alley.
But if they do, well,praise James 315.
>all of these guys crying 'muh skeelz got 1 rank up'
>seriously expecting their R5+ classes to have 4/5+ skills naturally at circle 1
>seriously expecting the best class skills to be at C1 so they can make their classes 1 circle wonders
come fucking on guys we've all known this was going to happen.
>IMC changed swordsman class name to warrior to appease the retarded international tumblr crowd
>>124699928
Thats the thing though, a better flame ground+5 extra fireball hits will do more damage than a summon+5 famililars will.
>>124700054
No one is crying that things got moved, it's what got moved and where they got moved to
>>124700054
>expecting to have 4 skills is bad
le wat
4 skills is shit already, classes really need way more skills so there's some choice between them, every fucking build is the same cause there's no options.
>>124700121
>every fucking build is the same
It looks like IMC intends for the different class choices to differentiate the builds.
There probably won't be that many builds to begin with, but this system lets people who want to make special snowflakes do it. "Unique" builds won't be as strong as minmaxed ones, but as long as they work enough in PVE it's alright.
>>124700054
If you don't have at least 4 skills at C1, then you're not 'building' anything, you don't even have to make a choice about which skills to max. And that's bad.
>>124700047
if i remember, allJames315does is gank at hisec which is not possible in non-open world pvp game.
>>124700361
Which class doesn't get at least 4 skills at C1?
>>124700121
>le
Get out.
>>124697852
I used the terrain grass and it does jack shit lol
Sexual Relations with a popolion is wrong.
>>124700824
Are you LITERALLY still there?
>>124700867
Until servers go down
>>124700867
>Are you LITERALLY still there?
We.
>>124700076
Doesn't it make sense though?
>>124700824
>pardoner outside the tent
>pardoner will absolve the sins of bestiality
>>124700867
Nah, they're figuratively there.
>>124700963
Metaphorically.
How long before the beta goes down again?
>>124697518
>Gem Roasting and Magnum Opus
Way to make sure less people go Alchemist now. Nobody is going to invest 3 circles into a crafting class unless they get something amazing, you're just taking shit away from C1 and expecting people to like it.
>>124700914
Yeah now I see
>pyromancer changed to "fire mage"
>cryomancer changed to "frost mage"
What is this stupid bullshit? Why change it, because etymology is too hard for mouthbreathing NEET dropouts?
>>124700912
Wuz
>>124701128
HOL UP
>>124701156
JUST
>>124701045
>>124700963
Physically present but mentally absent.
>>124701061
Making potions and awakening is already pretty useful. Magnum Opus as it stands right now is a hat making gimmick, and fits right in at C3.
>>124701167
STANDING
>>124701219
A YOUNG BOY
>>124701061
>you wont be able to make a level 40 spear until someone on the server is level 280
If magnum opus actually lets you make some fucking great gear, I'd be all for it. But if all its used for is cheminis (trash) weapons and hats? fuck that.
>>124701203
>Magnum Opus
It will help reduce prices on some rare materials once the recipes become known.
Like, 4 Karas Fragments give you 1 Vikaras Core.
>>124701323
>thinking people wont jew the results instead
>>124700361
Suicide ganking may be the most famous activity of the New Order, but it's hardly the only one.
You can check the "Become an Agent" section on minerbumping to see more options, declaring wars is absolutely one of them.
Besides, there's still things we can do to afk farmers in this game, even if they aren't in a guild.
>>124701376
>jew stuff that drops from mobs
It'll do exactly what that anon said, which is reduce the prices on rare materials that you can make with MO. Since it's now Alch C3, you can be sure that supply will be barely affected.
who /honest and hard-working/ here?
>>124697774
>>124697914
How2grass
>>124701392
>killed a level 150 afk person with 3 spider orbs
totally worth it
>>124693792
gimme more (You)s or i'll cancel TOS!!!!!!
>mfw spent all of maint trying to break shit
managed to clip through walls in nearly every area i went to, except the town. That p-lace had some weird shit going on there's this one area if you jump into, it'll just push your sprite to the left a few pixels but keep the marker of where you are originally
>>124701763
Do it. Seriously please do it.
Laimabros, please, sell me your Toy Hammer. Is the last thing that i need to test.
>>124701242
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>124701516
hard working squire here
gotta polish those spears
>>124701061
This. Roasters are about to go down dramatically which won't be good for the community, at all. Now Alchemists are going to jew roasting for absurd amounts of money. IMO they should have moved awakening instead of roasting because awakening is one of the best Alch skills and probably the most in demand next to potion. Roasting while good, is not more useful than awakening so it belongs in C1. Most alchemists are going to stay C1 if they even go alchemist at all anymore. C3 alchemists are going to be rare as fuck, magnum opus just isn't very good.
>>124701904
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>124701915
It's made worse when you consider they wont even change the awakening trade potential loss system.
FUCK FUCK FUCK
VALVE IS HANDING OUT VAC BANS RIGHT NOW TO EVERYONE WHO USED THE EXPLOIT
>>124701915
Yeah roasting should have been c1, magnum opus c2 and awakening c3 if it was that necessary to move them.
>>124702095
Why are you even here?
>>124701941
ON THE EDGE
>>124699928
You've obviously never played sorc. Without hold or attack ground, the summon is useless unless you stay right on top of it. Simply avoiding boss attacks will make it run around in circles without attacking anything, and the damage loss is far greater than what ride does. Either they move a control skill back, they change the AI, or it's a waste compared to the other classes you could take.
Even demon prison grinding parties are more likely to complain about the buff limit than notice the cat's effects. Everyone just spams SP potions anyway.
>>124701061
The only problem there is Magnum Opus doesn't have a real use yet. All they have to do is add some good recipes.
>Alchemist C3
>-Magnum Opus
Anyone here will be full time alchemist?
>>124702162
ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH, COLORADO
>>124702134
why did you respond to obvious bait
>>124702227
If there's shared storage between characters I would potentially do it, and jew people like a motherfucker in the process.
>>124702183
>You've obviously never played sorc
>>124701868
>implying anyone here plays on the MonMus server
>>124701915
Awakening would make sense as a higher tier skill, but they're probably worried about not having enough awakeners. It only takes a few afk gem roasters to handle the demand, but awakening is work.
>>124702227
>Alchemist C3
>Magnum Opus
So they're pretty much removing Magnum Opus from the game now because there is no way to get C3 Alch at the moment and I doubt they'll push Rank 8 out quickly. Bravo.
>>124702183
As someone who got sorc, I never even noticed the cat's regen boost when the damn thing wasn't even out. It's worthless. not to mention I could just craft and chug my own sp potions anyway after I hit alch.
>>124693792
>Is this game online
That's my favorite shouter
>>124702313
literally the only thing left for Druids
transforming into cute harmless animals and plants
>>124702286
Good job cropping someone else's screenshot. You'd know how the AI works if you had it.
I don't disagree with moving skills off Alchemist C1. C1 had way too many skills and not enough points. Magnum Opus at C3 though? Good luck with that, nobody is going to give up 2 circles to make silly fucking hats.
>>124702459
Yeah, about that whole "cropping someone else's screenshot" thing. Don't do that
>>124702537
well, you can sell the jew hats for millions now.
>>124702557
So you've played sorc, then you should fucking know how retarded the AI is.
>>124702374
It's not like it was useful for anything anyway.
>>124702183
Can agree, while Attack Ground may not be crucial, Hold is really important, especially with the dumbfuck AI.
Unless you go afk on top of your summon, he will end up canceling his autoattack to follow you, even if you moved an inch.
>>124702537
People figured out Magnum Opus? Is there a list?
Magnum Opus would be worth it if you could make weapons and armor out of it. That's what I expected Magnum Opus to be to begin with.
>>124702806
Someone decoded the current list, which is still incomplete at the moment. It's SHIT right now.
>>124702752
You have to move way more than you're making it out to be for Hold to be useful. I never needed Hold and removed it for that reason, long ago back when I was still making more use of Cryomancer's Snow Rolling. That's precisely why I know, because Snow Rolling to pick mobs up would still let Templeshooter attack everything it did pick up before I stopped. Running in circles around a boss would stop something, dodging an attack in a boss wouldn't. As a result, there was no fight in this beta where I felt Hold was remotely necessary. None of the dungeon bosses, quest bosses nor mobbing bunnyland or Demon Prison did it feel like a necessary tool
>>124702806
Yes there is http://pastebin.com/XQEYMF7b
>>124702806
http://pastebin.com/XQEYMF7b
So what hats can you make from magnum opus?
I tell you guys, all these kissfaggots are Lupusfags from overlord general on /a/.
And yes, no one liked them in there.
>>124702952
>>124702964
Thanks. I might roll into one if they add more on the recipe list or if we have a high exp CBT or OBT,
>>124702752
Read his post >>124702940
I can get your point and all, but know that he's using a templeshooter.
Templeshooter is a ranged summon, even though you are running around like an idiot during boss fights, templeshooter tends to stand on the same place and shoot arrows. You're right that AI is shit, but he's also right that ignoring Hold and Attack ground is utterly useless. Also before you ask, SorcC2. Yes, I fell for the dark/fire property meme.
Did anyone get banned?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/1111
Oh, I must have missed this webm.
>brasiltreeofsavior
kekluhmao
>>124699368
Warlock has two main problems (outside the fact that they are edgy pyromancers)
1- The have the worst element of all
2- we dobt actually know how many hits each of their spells has, for the cooldown they have
>>124699653
It's not. The only mandatory thing for sorcerers right now is Templeshooter.
Hold and Attack Ground were used in niche cases, mostly for lazyness
Familiar damage is good, but the dps isn't (high cooldown, no overheat)
Servant is fina, but not really necessary (in this point of the game, you should already have Hangman's Knot AoE attribute and chugging potions)
Salami is utter shit and doesnt really help anything that you or your summon could do.
Seriously, I'm just waiting for a TS nerd so I can completely ignore Sorc now
>>124703378
Most of the people who cheated extensively they can't enter their character before maintenance is here in kateen forest. So no.
>>124703380
>linker is mandatory for every wizard build
>>124697518
Pardoner C3?
>>124703572
It's the same for pyro to be honest.
>>124703668
Pyrolinker is now standard Wiz build.
>>124703410
Attack ground and especially hold were really useful though, because the fucking summons keep walking around NOT DPSing and possibly shooting in the direction it was walking to first before actually shooting somewhere where it conts.
>>124703572
>implying it isn't
You are objectively worse without linker. No party is going to want you.
Is possible to fight the Gargoyle in Inner Enceite district (lv 193 map)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAU3rOrRuU&feature=youtu.be
I have no idea what this is. I also watched it drunk. It all looked like everyone was bitching that cleric is OP, can't
>>124704118
No.
>>124704072
>No party is going to want you.
>"but im a cryo3"
>"bitches love my tree"
>smug_face.png.webm
>>124703668
>>124703749
cyrolinker sucks?
I'm thinking getting cyro for CC and get Warlock aka darkpyro later on.
>>124704072
>You are objectively worse without linker. No party is going to want you.
New meme?
>>124704289
only take cryo if you're planning to go until C3
Do dragoons get a free hat
>>124704289
I'd say cryo linker is balanced, which is not the case of pyro as a whole.
>>124704384
You new here son ? Haven't you heard of EQ15 and Linker attribute being futureproof ?
>>124704527
Man, I hope this meme gets replaced in the next version
>>124704575
New build, new memes. Except Archer. Archer is IMC's homemade meme
>>124703810
>keep walking around
Sometimes i had a fucking urge to smack him in the head, so i was just resummoning it to reset his Ai and make him attack right away.
>>124704470
That spear looks so good.
Wasn't there info on new weapons back when they announced c7 classes?
the one thing I really wish is none of the monsters in this game feel threatening, I remember in maplestory some of the higher level monsters i'd feel scared to go near cause they did lots of touch damage
there's like zero touch dmg in this game
>>124704825
yeah try walking into a high level autoaggro zone and see how that works out for you
>>124704825
I dunno, I'm pretty fucking bitter every time I'm walking through Nuordin and three Wendigo Searchers drop down behind me and aggro
>>124704825
>what are wendigo searchers
>lizardman wizards
>venter shamans
confirmed for not finishing dick prison
>>124702940
>You have to move way more than you're making it out to be for Hold to be useful.
https://u.pomf.io/qsojok.webm
This is more distance than he's making it out to be?
>>124703370
Templeshooter chases you just as easily as the melee ones. I use hold for everything except semi-afk farming and running around for quests. Attack ground sucks because it only lasts a short time, so he can give up on attacking before the enemies die.
If this change goes through, on top of the inevitable templeshooter nerf, I'll have to drop it and go linker.
>>124704919
>3
Oh? Here you go then
>duoing through nuordin
>see a pack of searchers ahead, 2 and 3 regular wendigos
>go to pull them
>5 searchers drop down behind me and my buddy
I screamed like a little bitch and ran as fast as i could
face customization when?
>>124704474
wiz > cyro > linker > thau > sorc > alch > warlock
how about this?
>>124704981
>Running in circles around a boss would stop something, dodging an attack in a boss wouldn't
Yeah, actually I think that lines up about right with your webm
>>124704953
>lizardman wizards
They were fun to grind on since i skipped demon prison on my first class 6.
Before the records wipe i had about 4000 kills on them too
>>124705067
You're spread all over the place
>>124705067
why not take pyro and chrono as well matey
>>124705067
lolipantsu pls
>>124705067
wiz > pyro > linker > pyro > chrono > chrono > chrono.
>>124705067
>wanting to stop at Sorc C1 after the upcoming nerf
>>124705149
>>124705180
guide me
>>124705234
>>124705234
why chrono?
>>124705067
I'll show you how much i love the balance of this game (and of the wiz tree) with another selection.
wiz > pyro > linker > pyro > Cryo 3.
But if you insist on cryo/linker, why not going cryo 3 after ward for even more control and snowball? Then whatever suits you more.
>>124705281
Have you not experienced haste?
when is this pile of shit beta ending
>>124705343
Tomorrow
>>124705343
>pile of shit
im guessing you still haven't experienced kissing.
>>124705080
That looks like a boss to you?
>>124701061
Actually, this is good to separate the self-sufficient mages from the jews, this also makes sure that the potions and roasting price doesnt fall rock bottom too fast
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exp-coding-error/124023/3
JUST
>>124705281
Pyro2>Link1>Chrono3
>>124705424
That and he's a full SPR Archer C3
>>124705456
The scenario was a boss fight, the action was the same. In the webm, that's quite clearly running around in circles a lot and not just the act of moving out of an attack. Which is why I said that Hold never felt useful; I didn't run around like that unless I was being an idiot with Necroventer or dodging Mineloader's purple laser. Every other case, simply moving to dodge wouldn't interrupt Templeshooter's attacks.
Cataphracts steed charge, doom spike and earth wave cool downs were changed.
You can also charge all of these skills while moving and they charge is extremely short.
Earth Wave - 17 seconds
Doom Spike - 25 seconds
Steed Charge - 13 seconds
Looks like Cata is king
Webm for retards keep making 3.02mb
Here Aze. It's at downtown.
>>124705704
>Looks like Cata is king
What's your next Circle then?
>>124705778
hop/cata/templar for me
>>124705592
IMC's incompetence never ceases to amaze me. I thought BHS were bad but damn.
>>124701868
>cube gets me maid headband
I tried
>>124705704
Is Steed Charge even useful ? Wouldn't your rather max Spike/Wave/Trot/Rush, maybe one point in Impale ?
>>124704470
is that the attack pose?
where are people getting these sprites from
So what are the best full merchant builds?
>Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Pyro > Pyro/Thau > Alch C2
(Sorc removed because Sorc C1 sucks now.)
>Sword > Ass > Hop > Hop > Squire C3
>Cleric > Krivis > Priest C2 > Pardoner C3
(Priest C3 for more AA, no Zalciai/Zaibas though.)
>>124705939
someones gotta make no fun allowed
>>124693183
It's name is Divine Stigma btw senpai.
>>124706070
>nofunallowed
instant avoid
>>124706117
Is what i meant.
>>124706016
If you're going Squire I would go highlander>barb. level way faster
>>124706125
you can join some reddit guild and fuck off then
>>124706070
>no fun allowed
I hate the standard /vg/ guild so FUCKING MUCH.
>>124706176
Same.
>>124706175
I would rather join a reddit guild than a guild named NFA again.
Everytime. Every fucking time, NFA is shit, no exceptions.
>>124705759
Did you set the file size limit at 2.8MB? if not, that's why. It's retarded and wont keep it under 3MB if you set it at 3MB.
>>124706125
>>124706176
kill yourselves
>the only change to Monk is that their shitty golden bell shield skill is going into C3 instead of C2
man good thing i got my monk to 200 in the beta or else i'd be pretty pissed if I rolled this come release.
>>124706125
>>124706176
>>124706259
This desu, it's a shitty name which isn't relevant to today's state of /v/vg/.
>>124705942
Steed Charge damage is good and sometimes hits twice. Don't know if its really that way, the size of the monster or something.
Earth Wave is your main skill
Trot for PVP
Rush for crowdcontrol but sucks because of mob density and can be cancelled(ex.gust)
Doom Spike sucks. aoe is in a thin straight line.
Impaler is awesome for farming recipes,etc, holding elites or PVP but sucks everywhere
Only advantage of Cata is mount benefits.
>>124706259
Every /vg/ guild is shit.And yes I know the exception.
>>124705759
nice place >>124706349
>>124703810
Well, I was Linker, and while what you said did happen, I never had a problem with it, because of CC.
Also, I didnt use summon for everything. My only uses for it were: afk awaken, boss dps, pack pull on dungeons and pack pull on mobbed rooms at DP2, so I never did need to move too much, and outside field bosses, it would kill the packs with 2 or 3 attacks.
Anything other than that, I wouldnt even bother summoning my TS, since with my pyro I could kill about anything with only one fireball or flame ground.
My point is: I always used my TS as a meatshield instead of a grind-machine
>>124706309
It's an obsolete name, dude
>>124706429
>implying TERA NFA wasn't GOAT tier during the betas/early release
>>124706328
Yep, I'm glad that I learned that, even if it was the hard way.
Sadly, they will nerf Sadhu so now I don't know if I will play any Cleric class at all.
>>124704384
One of the first memes actually
>>124706562
Early release and beta TERA was the most fun I had with TERA
>>124706562
>>124706618
I had a lot of fun in TFT
>>124706176
>>124706125
Go back to reddit
where are people seeing the rank 7 classes on the korean site? I can't find them
>>124706610
I'm new. I was so obsessed on trying out builds I only found /tosg/ a few days ago.
>>124705672
You really think bosses are that small? That tiny circle that wouldn't make it out of a large boss's body. Tons of attacks cover a bigger area than that and dodging interrupts him all the time.
If you're going to change the subject to constant movement, that's so clearly broken it counts as a bug. How can you seriously say it's OK for the summon to be right next to a mob for that long without attacking it?
>>124706761
http://tos.nexon.com/gameinfo/joblist.aspx ?
>>124706719
>TFT
oh so you are one of those /a/ fags
So we will wait for the ledditors to go into the first meme guild, then we will make a new one with pantsluts and healwhores, right?
>>124706874
what is a pantslut
>>124706831
>You have to move way more than you're making it out to be for Hold to be useful.
>Running in circles around a boss would stop something, dodging an attack in a boss wouldn't.
>If you're going to change the subject to constant movement
I don't think the subject was ever changed
>>124706871
Of course I am. What other reason is there to come to 4chan?
>>124707000
>I don't think the subject was ever changed
So we are talking about distance and your claim is it's OK for moving less than half a screen to interrupt the summon's attacks.
The original claim was:
>Without hold or attack ground, the summon is useless unless you stay right on top of it.
Right on top means distance.
>>124706871
>he isnt form /a/
>>124707651
But in that webm alone you've proven that you don't need to be right on top for it to shoot. You used the example that "attacks cover a bigger area than that"
>Harpeia's front wind, which you dodge by getting behind her will not interrupt Templeshooter if you just went around her target circle. To get away from Harpeia's blue wind, you will interrupt Templeshooter to clear the whole area because it's such a wide range, which is already more than "moving an inch" and also includes consistent movement
>Necroventer's stone throw which is dodged by not being in front of him will not interrupt Templeshooter
>Chapparition's frontal repeated AoE which is dodged just by getting out of the circle will not interrupt Templeshooter
>None of Ritheris's AoEs will cause you to interrupt Templeshooter to dodge them
>Dodging any of Archon's attacks don't involve you interrupting Templeshooter, because you either just get behind Archon/away from his front, or move off the fire
>Templeshooter himself will force you to interrupt your Templeshooter if you want to dodge his frontal fire cone
>Shadowgaler has absolutely nothing in either of his fights to force you to interrupt your summon's attacks to dodge
>Cerberus's fire is avoided really easily, and even in Cerberus your summon won't be stopping attacking he'll have a legitimate AI issue of just attacking absolutely every minos he possibly can
No, my original point was not that the AI is fine, it was that Hold was not necessary
>>124706871
> Not liking /a/ while playing ToS
>>124704770
>That spear looks so good.
That's a trident.
>>124679517
They moved Golden Bell to Monk C3. Now you have a new skill :^)
>>124705895
haha, thanks anyway
>>124708292
Hold is the only way to make up for the bad AI now, and they're not likely to fix the AI. That post's "right on top" and "useless" may have been exaggerated, but you'd have to have be constantly in melee range of the bosses. That's not realistic at all.
Chapparition's aoe seemed big enough to cover the webm's distance. I'd like to see a video of soloing him without interrupting templeshooter.
>>124709727
>I'd like to see a video of soloing him without interrupting templeshooter.
You walk behind him and the circle is nowhere near you, and you have to be in melee range of him for the circle to be a threat because he uses it right in front of his body. You HAVE to be in melee range for that to be a problem. If you're confusing the repeated void circle for the chain lightning cast, that's even easier because you just move within his range and dodge individual lightning strikes, marked quite clearly on the ground.
As for melee range. I'd rather be close to the boss and easily dance around them than running away from the boss like you did those mobs. You can't even attack while moving like that, While you can attack if you merely dodge an attack and stop. Temple doesn't interrupt himself and you attack right after.
>Hold is the only way to make up for the bad AI now
No, not running away from any of those to the point that Templeshooter decides he has to follow you is a solution. There isn't a single attack in that list, other than the exceptions I did include, that force you to move enough that Temple decides to follow. This is precisely the reason I used those examples, because I earlier stated that I removed Hold because I found it unnecessary for dungeon bosses, quest bosses and mobbing high density spots like bunnyland and Demon Prison.
kTEST; Dec 8th Patch Notes.
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>Changed tax amount when using Squire's services.
>Guild Hideout pet raising time increase
>Orsha warp scroll added to Orsha Item Merchant.
>You can extend your Warehouse using TP.
>Musketeer and Cannoneer's skill damage increased.
>Cooldown for Doom Spike, Earth Wave and Steed Charge adjusted.
>Corsairs can now properly equip Pistols if they have the attribute learned.
>Added two new instance dungeons. (Lv 50 and Lv 90 Instances for Orsha.)
>Alchemist 'Item Awakening' now has a UI for party, and Awakening Options have been adjusted.
>Added more monsters to Orsha.
>Gem level has been modified to be different depending on which rank (star rank) map it drops in.
>Resurrection after death now uses 'Crystal' item. Can be purchased in TP Store.
>Portraits for some guild masterd added.
>Burrow has been adjusted (Rogue)
>Guild events have been added. Guild master can start from tower. (Still in testing.)
>Field Dungeon has been added.
>Fixed some quest progression.
A lot of changes and not everything translated/translated quickly.
>>124710404
And if the boss has a melee attack and you have aggro, it never hits you? Your list is only a few bosses, and that already has exceptions. Mineloader was also mentioned as an exception earlier. If I let Molech catch me in the 175 instance he'd hit hard, and the pair in 160 had tons of aoe. Without hold in demon prison, what did you do about large groups of harugals?
>You can't even attack while moving like that,
Cooldowns prevent you from attacking constantly anyway. Basic attack works while moving.
>>124712487
>What did you do against large groups in Demon Prison
I'm a Cryomancer, as shown earlier. Frost Pillar -> Ride's S-Attack -> Snow Rolling mopped them up
>Molich
But you dance around him in melee range. You do not need to be at a range to dodge melee attacks, especially a boss like Molich who is more likely to try and jump at you or roll than he is to just swing his arm. Harpeia has a very similar melee attack, but everyone and their mother knows you can walk around her.
>And if the boss has a melee attack and you have aggro, it never hits you?
I'm not even sure where these bosses have unavoidable attacks for you. They aren't Hallowventer Sharmans, they don't have homing attacks like that, their auto attacks can be dodged the same way you'd dodge an attack from a monster in Monster Hunter, just that the bosses are way too basic for that to be a fair comparison here. Even Cerberus's pounce should rarely land on you in the sea of Minos. It won't be Cerberus doing damage to you if you're soloing the 190 dungeon, it'll be his Minos mages
>inevitable drama splits the /tosg/ guild into smaller ones
>kissposter guild immediately declares war on like-and-dasher guild
>dispatches a squad of lewd druids, kissrape ensues
>honest hardworking guild enters the fray
>three guild towers destroyed by level 20 snow rolling.webm
can't wait
>>124712929
>I'm a Cryomancer, as shown earlier. Frost Pillar -> Ride's S-Attack -> Snow Rolling mopped them up
Harugals have too much HP for that, and there's a long cooldown. Ride is getting moved out of C1 so you can't use it.
>>124713747
Yes, but the point wasn't about the future. You asked how I handled mobs of Harugals, and I answered. A level 7 S-attack and Snow Rolling do quite a lot of damage to them. This was a conversation about why I thought Hold wasn't necessary, not about the fact Ride WILL be moved to C2
>>124714013
The reason we're debating about hold is it's getting moved. It's the post-move conditions that matter, and ride's move is part of that.
>>124714013
And I'll just ask that while cooldowns apply, what did you believe Harugals as an example would prove? Harugals will never force you to interrupt Templeshooter. You don't run away and kite Harugals, you will dodge their long wind-up punches by moving around the group, and if you're fighting a bunch they should be close enough to do that. You can even walk through a group to the other side and dodge some, while the faster punches might hit you they aren't going to kill you and you're not about to interrupt Templeshooter there.
A better question would have been the trees in Second Demon Prison because their gust forces Templeshooter to chase you
>>124714372
No we aren't. It's not about Hold being moved. It's that I outright called it unnecessary in our current beta's fights and that there is no boss where Hold is truly necessary to combat the poor AI that forces a Grimoire summon to follow you when you move too much
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