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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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First for IMC-tier of programming skills.
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Westerners were a mistake
iCBT2 was a mistake
Stats were a mistake
Class advancement was a mistake
Action MMORPG was a mistake
Ragnarok was a mistake
ToS was a mistake
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>>124632964
Fanart by ZUN?
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>>124634358
It's the Elets.
For some mysterious reason their shockwave attack heals you.
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can't get the free xp shit to work but the class advancement does
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>>124634702
It's
fixed
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>Was able to become a 200 druid due to the exploit, basically all I wanted
>Try a transform STR build
>its shit

Well that was quick.

Dropped.
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>>124634752
ripip
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>>124634702
How exactly did you get class advancement to work? For some reason just adding the line to the hotkey.xml does nothing for me.
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Xth for kissposting
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>>124634949
just copied the line from last thread

put it in place of the LHand line attack, the one with C and it worked
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>>124632964
>Previous thread
>>124589606
>>124589606
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Reminder to scold all kissposters.
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>>124634614
As a follow up on skill levels, attributes locking to circles of skills are also pitifully low.

Pyromancer should get an attribute to increase number of hits required before the fireball is moved locked to Circle 2 and the attribute only going 3 (3 hits required then it gets pushed freely) on C2, and maxing at 10 on C3.

Linker attributes are largely uninspired garbage.

Pyromancer's Staff attribute is trash needs to have about 10x as many levels to it and a timer on it

Quarrel Shooter needs another attribute to increase to Caltrops damage after bleed was removed. Simple solution:
+1 Hit per Attribute Level - Max 10 levels, time sink 30 minutes (+7minutes a level) + gold ofc

Conceal - Should max at 1, attribute for length
Detonate Traps either scale explosions with level or attribute for it

Punji Stake- Knockup but NOT knock 'away' attribute

Flame Ground - AoE increase attribute (Since there's no other way to increase the range of it btu decrease the time it's up)
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the xp penalty should be dropped so we could level at Tenet until 100+. Tenet was fuck as fuck and the only place that resembled RO
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>>124634438
>Westerners were a mistake
Actually if it wasn't for us, the kOBT would release with massive exploits.

The Koreans players can't test for shit, or they keep the exploits to themselves. That and the fact nobody plays the game anymore over there.
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So, whats the best build for an elementalist into warlock? Is it wiz3>ele3>warlock?
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>>124635394
>nobody plays the game anymore
Why though?
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>>124635368
This retard.
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>made 4 million in 30 minutes
God I love Dragoon.
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>>124634758
Druid Transform is good if you get Panta movement speed buff.

Also Carnivory and Sterea Troph.
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Bundled up in pajamas, a blanket, and with some hot chocolate for the daily kissposting!
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>>124635001
Oh that's great then, thanks. I didn't much care for Warlock or Featherfoot anyway. I hope someone from /tosg/ will carry my support ass through 3 circles of chrono Any chance you know if Back Masking works right on the kcbt?
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>>124635368
>fuck as fuck
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>>124635520
Not enough grind.
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Hey /tosg/, I'm the guy who tried to write down all the bugs and other QoL changes needed I encountered. (took some of them straight from the general, credits to the anons who posted).

Sadly, I didn't have time to further test other classes, and such, was left with a incomplete list.

I'll be honest - I never used a google docs file, or anything similar, so if you think it would be worth reporting all these at the end of the beta, any kind anon (with time on his hands) could try and make one, post these, and complete any other bugs they encountered.

That is, if you believe IMC cares. Personally, I don't want a DOA game - especially one that managed to entertain me in a long while.

http://pastebin.com/yMZpAA0q
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>>124635520
Because the game is a massive clusterfuck, and a boring slog to get to classes that are even remotely fun. The devs can't even decide if they want it to be a questing game or a grinding game, and instead of trying to lean one way they just hamper both avenues with low amounts of quests and low spawn rates and stats that hamper the ability to aoe grind at all.
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>>124635520
My Korean friends says that they got disappointed by the game, and since they get 2/3 new mmo releases per month, they can afford to be picky.

The main issues were:
- Auto-attack centric gameplay (ToS is nicknamed Tree of Auto-attacks).
- Linear progression and too many mindless blue quests.
- Lack of gear variety. They want something similar to Diablo 2/3, with more game changing modifiers.
- Dumb monster AI, lack of challenge.
- Incredibly boring dungeons.
- Poor optimization

When he actually told me that, I was like "hm, so that's exactly the same feedbacks we westerner gave to IMC".

IMC reply to quest progression:

Q) Following the quests seems like a single path which only grows on and on.

A) TOS has a lot of quests prepared for the players, but players can still have access to most maps without proceeding these quests. Also there are maps which are unrelated to the main quests, so the players can take different path if they wish not to proceed with those side campaigns. Addtionally, I am a lvl 178 Barbarian Test Server who has not rescued a single goddess and has only done my class advancement quests.

We think of quests as a way to learn about the ToS universe and a huge tutorial in order to be familiar with game mechanics. From now on, we are planning to make quests to be slightly more focused on the gimmicks.

http://tos.nexon.com/news/gmnews/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=33+
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>>124635043
Still doesn't seem to work for me. Can you please pastebin your .xml?
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Was nice to play with you (Van and Loli) guys. See you next beta /tosg/
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>>124635347

Linker attrib are ok. I picked linker for my r6 and after i got that earth damage bonus attrib, Lv 5 earthquake has been a best. i can kill the mobs of downtown with 1 hangman letharquake.
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>>124635347
Divine Stigma: Duration - Increase max level to 10

Melstis: Moving during Channel - Max 5, at max movespeed is normal. Time gate or something and increase SP cost

Statue Zemnya - Max 10, -1% SP cost of skills in Aura per Level
Statue: Laima - Increase Radius, Max X, +1% radius per level

All statues should have 2 attributes minimum, one for Decrease cooldown by 10 seconds and the other for an alternate use (like listed above), you should onyl be allowed to have one on at a time. Alternatively just lower the default CD and have the CD be the tradeoff on attribute.


Monk is actually the only good example of attributes done right I can think of.

>>124635895
Super accurate. Unfortunately that feedback from the devs really does't feel okay.
I've still got high hopes for ToS but most of my hopes right now are on R1EMU instead of the dev team unfortunately.
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>>124635930
pastebin.com/1pp1ctKq

it's for mousemode, you'll end up with my hotkeys but w/e

the quest is set up for fletcher right now, go change the number
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>>124636105
After seeing their responses and the sheer amount of time it took them to fix anything at all, I have absolutely zero hope for the game.
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>>124636218
Well, it's always possible that they're playing it close to the chest with a lot of the data on classes/etc and intend to change a lot of it up before OBT, but given kOBT has already been scheduled for december we'll know sooner rather than later at least.
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>>124635895
It is unfortunate that the best way to lvl up is doing quest for cards and then saving them up during the spike to ease up the grinding. Cause right now at 180-185 the only real way to lvl up is to quest or solo the pq. The mob density seems to have disapeared. If only only Roxona was like demon prison d 2 and dullahan didnt freeze up and was more active the end game would be much more enjoyable,
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>>124635572
I plan going Chrono1->Alch1 myself (but I think I'll get more dps at rank7 and 8), but I can help you with my subpar pyro2linker if you wish
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>>124636413
Tfw you miss the MMO era with rarer quests every 10s or so level that are not advertised, you have to get knowledge, speak to unmarked NPC and complete the quest by thinking. Gave you a unique reward worth the time investment. Was fun and challenging.

Nowadays MMO quests should be renamed "chores" or "quests", because they stopped being fun since 10 years.
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>>124636494
Sure, at release we'll level together. It will be fun. Going Chrono 1 for the cute costume?
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>>124636413
Now imagine doing that for another 300 levels
Keep in mind that Egnomes give you the same experience as trees almost and the mobs are 100 levels apart.

Imagine only getting 5k/mob with that same density at 250.
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>>124636151
Thanks. I still can't seem to get it to work, though.
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>>124636904
>>124636413

Implying that's not intended game design to make you buy 1hour exp bonus potions from the cash shop.
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>>124637085
tfw even the exp potions only scale linearly
tfw your +5,000 EXP per kill pots are underwhelming by level 300

tfw none of the devs know higher order math and just winging it.
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>>124637026
Infinite quest cards exploit has been fixed. That's why it doesnt work.

You can still do the class advancement tho.


<HotKey ID="FreeClass" Name="FreeClass" DownScp="control.CustomCommand(&quot;CLICK_CHANGEJOB_BUTTON&quot;, 2005)" UpScp="None" Key="C" UseShift="NO" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO" />
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>>124637257
tfw the person who initially posted it deleted his post so we don't get mass hysteria but everyone keeps reposting it anyway
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>>124637257
I think 6 ranks is max now
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>>124637026
just copypaste the whole thing into your hotkey for mousemode

it has to work bruv
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>>124636621
I think we can have the best of both worlds. I mean the quests we have these days are useful in practice, they can give direction to players or just a nice little bonus for killing something they would have anyway. They've gotten really mindless and awful though, you're right.
First we need to get rid of generic "interact with x" quests, they aren't fun and aren't what you'd be doing anyway. Killing six boars or collecting 12 boar livers or whatever is fine, because you'd probably be killing them anyway. It's fine to have a "Go to the end of this area and grab the bauble" quests because it ties in exploration, though. Call these sorts of things tasks, or chores or whatever like you said.
Then have quests in the style of old Runescape like how you described, being much more significant, interesting, and rewarding.
Finally, make sure tasks/chores aren't mandatory. Plain grinding is a workable alternative but these days you do need something more. Get creative with the idea of grinding and trick the player into thinking they aren't doing it. Most people here killed a few hundred trees in DP2, that was a grind. If they were positioned in a dungeon-like formation during a quest (not task) or something and we were told to get to the end for a super special reward, it wouldn't feel like grinding. Along with that there's also the usual dungeons, maybe PvP experience, etc etc.
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>>124636621
No thanks I quit iRo during comodo since it was boring to wait on field bosses and the only places to farm effecitvely was glastheim and turtle island.
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>>124637257
Yes, that's the thing I've been trying to get to work, but it just doesn't, for some reason. No matter what buttons I map it to, it doesn't seem to activate ingame.
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>>124637479
The problem is that even those types of quests get broken down into the same exact shit.

Furthermore, it still means that this quest becomes borderline necessary when creating an alt.
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>>124636652
>Going Chrono 1 for the cute costume?
Yes, it's just way too cute (wish I could use pink boots like the master though).

I didn't really like Sorcerer and can't play without Haste now, too.
Rank7 and 8 I'm planning to go dps, but if only one circle is enough I can go Chrono2 with the other.
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>>124637381
He reposted it afterwards.
I thought he just wanted to try it out himself, but apparently he had some other plan in mind.
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>>124637773
I like to share.
Beta ends in a day, so why not?

I would obviously not spread such an exploit in an OBT/release.

Shitstorm is good, forces IMC to fix shit, since these exploits were reported for weeks, but they ignored them.
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>>124637773
>>124638041
Also I removed the first post because I mistakenly added jobquest id in it insteand of jobclass id.
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>>124638041
Good luck with begging for second hand bug tips in the obt
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With all the exploiting going on, does anyone know what those users were doing early on to increase their melee range?
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>>124638041
Just let it all burn, they fix next to fucking nothing and ignore all kinds of problems and feedback.
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I can't play for now, please, someone post a webm of the Psychokino's c2 and c3 skills in action? We had more info about Centurion than of that class. If possible, test Raise and Gravity Pole on duel. With and wihtout Dispeller scrolls.
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This is a collection in Constructor Chapel B1.
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>>124638398
I wonder why they ignore all complaints about the game thou. It's like they don't give a shit about it being dead on arrival.
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>>124638325
I will not care during OBT. Playing legitly is more fun. Still, sorry for ninja'ing your tips, Dmn, that was cunty on my part.
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>>124637660
That's true, but really I mostly said make it a quest in the interest of being concise. You could add a variation of dungeons or what have you under a different name as a basic element of the game and be good. Just have a task that's "Go get the whatever from the end of tree castle" as well as a few that are "Kill trees in tree castle" "Get tree boogers from trees in tree castle". They're mindless but you'll complete the basic ones while doing the first one, so you'll hardly notice. It will feel like one larger, more rewarding task. The more I think about it the more of a problem the generic tasks sound like, though. Now you need to make tree castle and what not just so you can have these group of tasks seem less awful. Again though, there are a lot of benefits to having them as well.

There are two things that need to be solved to replace what tasks/chores bring: Easily accessible direction for the player (where to go next, what options are available) and short term goals within the long term goal (kill 30 trees for 1% of a level is a much easier goal than kill 3000 trees for one level)

>>124637738
I'm convinced they'll have costume dyes in the cash shop. There's no way they won't.
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>>124638398
>market crashes and eats items
>hey imc, look what's happening
>thanks for your report! we're looking at it!
>they fix 6 days later
>1 day after fix market breaks again
>hey imc, look, agains
>thanks for your report! we're looking at it
>6 days again to fix
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one of you koreanboos post the exe/dll files for the client and i'll see if i can start extracting ipfs
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>>124638759
>exe/dll
Is just the .ipf fine?
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>>124638539
Because if they listen to all the feedback they'd have to scrap a ton of stuff and take it back to design, as well as fixing a shit ton of code. Instead, they want to push for release.

>>124638685
>people literally cannot progress in the quests to level and test the game because bosses crash them
>takes them a fucking week to fix it

It's really been an amazing ride.
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>>124638581
>I'm convinced they'll have costume dyes in the cash shop. There's no way they won't.

There was a female npc with a recolored cleric outfit (red dye) in a story quest on Orsha.
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>>124638532
>templeshooter card
what does it gives?
inb4
>STR+1
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>>124638759
This please. I'm not good enough to decompress/decrypt their new format thingy without the binaries.
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>>124638886
I'll have to find 3 more collections to see. I'll check the other two floors.
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>>124638759
I believe in you anon

>>124638853
There you go. It's possible they were just re-using assets or wanted class masters to be somehow different, but dyes are such an easy money maker, and we've already seen they're doing hair dyes.
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>>124638840
no
i already have ipfs
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>>124635895

http://pastebin.com/MRYczpMz
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>>124639194
k, tell me which files you need
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Anyone wanna kiss?
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>>124638853
Many NPCs with currently unattainable hairstyles. Also Chronomancer Master's shoe colors and different eye colors in some trailer videos.
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Tfw Doddler himself is spreading the exploit hotkey (with an incorrect jobclassID to boot)

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-infinite-quest-rewards-and-unrestricted-class-switching/123654/295
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>>124639497
Wow, been quite a while since I've seen Doddler.

When did he stop with iRO again? After renewal wasn't it?
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>>124639497
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Who the fuck is doddler. Another redditor shiteater lurking tosg?
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>>124639737
Not sure, but he's definitely browsing vg and reddit.

>>124639791
>Who the fuck is doddler. Another redditor shiteater lurking tosg?

Underrated faggot detected.
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>>124639497
>incorrect jobclassID
He edited it. He's a responsible guy.
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>>124639407
i don't know what files the korean client has
they are using two separate anticheats that might have moved shit around
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>>124639914
Tfw he's among us right now.
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>>124640038
It's okay, on 4chin, nobody knows you're a doddler.
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>>124639891
>Underrated
I didn't play RO. I played another mmo at that time.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>124638432
Magnetic force is shit, doesn't even gather that many monsters and has a very small aoe range. The damage also sucks.

Raise is fun since it levitates enemies and they become immobile, but they can still place fireballs and other skills similar to it down and inflict damage on you. You can use icewall+psychic pressure on them even when they're levitating.

Gravity pole forces nearby enemies to the pole, making them immobile, but they have to already be very close for the skill to work. Enemies from behind you can easily disrupt your skill. Does a bit of damage, only lasts 5 seconds, but it lines the monsters up.
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>>124639791
howunderage.ru
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>>124639791
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>>124640038
>>124640195
tfw this could be him >>124638759
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>>124640371
>>124640374
Fuck off toddler
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>>124640371
>.ru
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>>124640353

That's cool. Magnetic Force really needs a buff, bigger aoe and some multihits. Also, i've heard that monster's can resist it, they should fix it too. thanks for the info, but i still want to see cool vids
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Who is Tittler?
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>>124640662
http://xn--80acbo6d9a.xn--p1ai/
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>>124639932
so you want all my exe and dll files?
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>>124640836
Yes. Don't forget explorer.exe and system32.dll.
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>>124640787
Very active contributor to the Ragnarok Online scene, with stats calculator, database and a shitload of other things.

Having him around for ToS will make the game so much better for everyone. Implying IMC doesn't totally fuck it up.

Tosbase Flash is the current Doddler of ToS though. Honorable mentions to Fate and Disc tho.
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>>124639497
>>124639914
>TFW I cant get it to work.
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Dmn, did you report the channel switching boss reward abuse? I would but I'm lazy.
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I don't want to play games that aren't Cute of Savior.
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>>124641105
Use it on a character that isn't r6.
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so did these lazy niggas only ..like.. disable the RESTART_Q thing ? but other commands still working
9/11 lazy
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>>124641453
"Hello,

Thanks for abusing report. We already fixed it with changing some files in the server."
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>>124640836
basically anything that looks important in release
i don't need the music or any of that bullshit

it should be <50 Mb

don't include CheatLogData or extradump* or stackdump*
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>>124641402
I tried. Pressing C does nothing.
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>>124641453
You've seen this entire beta. What the fuck did you expect from them, actual interaction and intent to change things for the better?
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>>124641684
Use the right code, you mongoloid.

Also keyboard mode.
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>>124641208
No, I don't know of this bug.
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Will I ever see /tosg/ anons again?
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>>124641873
Basically during a quest boss fight, if you channel switch before killing the boss, you'll end up with boss drop. The quest is not cleared, so you can rinse and repeat.

You can make mad dosh this way.
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>>124641532
>i don't need the music
Sorry, I don't help plebs.
Give me few minutes.
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>>124642009
Of course, we're here forever.
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>tfw paladin is a shitty melee/support/mage hybrid instead of a badass holy avenger purging demons
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>>124642049
It's still boring as all hell, though.
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>>124638532
Bonus for this one is HP+45
B2 is the same (Kani card + 8 orbs), gives MP+18
B3 has only 6 orbs, but also Sapphire and Regina Crossbow, gives HPregen+5
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>>124642241
You summed up ToS. The game where in kCBT1 it was more viable to channel switch to find blue mobs (before the spawn rate nerf), than actually play the game.
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Haven't really paid attention to the current beta, has imc fixed the lags and other issues? How's the game now that people actually got to test higher level stuff?
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>>124642009
Don't worry, I'll be back.
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>>124642238
There was a new skill added to clerics that looked like a paladin skill, but we'll never see it from the koreans because no one cares about paladins.
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>>124642278
these non % bonuses.

>>124642373
>has imc fixed

HAHAHAH
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>>124642342
Yeah, it's a shame what a tedious slog this clusterfuck is. It's really cute, but still has so many issues that I just can't see them getting off their lazy asses and fixing them.
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>>124642342
How has the game progressed since the first kCBT anyways?
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>>124642495
it's not a paladin skill, during the last trailer you can see it in a skillbar with zero other paladin skills

i'm more mad about no 2h sword holy fire purging shit
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>>124642373
>IMC
>fix
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What are /tosg/'s favorite tracks ? Except Pristine
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>>124642571
Shy updates here and there. But compared to what still needs fixing, it's a few drops in a ocean of piss.

It feels like IMC is understaffed. Also there is NO WAY WHATSOEVER that ToS is ready for kOBT this month. Nexon doesn't care, but it will seriously be Tortanic level of shitstormery.
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>>124642009
I'm always here.
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>>124642571
They increased the EXP rate added more classes and nerfed everything that isnt the swordsman tree. They attempted to balance archers but ended up making them just a pain in the ass to play as your first character.
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>>124642747
I don't like my MMOs to have music, I usually just turn it off entirely
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>>124642683
Disappointing. No rank 7 class has any synergy with Paladin either. Just remove the class already IMC.
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Considering the rate they're making maps and quests, you'd think they could spare some time on balance and fun.
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shit dead game, stop making generals of this shit
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>>124642935
the only "synergy" there is for now is conviction to buff up zaibas from krivis

and smite i guess is decent for a monk build to just smack demons
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>>124642373
>imc
>fixing anything
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>>124642828
>nerfed everything that isn't the swordsman tree

But Cleric builds are better than everything else. If they wanted Swordsmen to be the best then they did a shitty job, because everything pretty much sucks ass except for Barb into Corsair or Hoplite into Doppel.
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Hi /tosg/!

What are some good R5-R7 late game classes to compliment a C3 Highlander!
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>>124642747
Viento.
Fell in love the moment I first heard it, and I still can't get enough of it.
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>>124643038
How much elemental resist debuff does Conviction add? Is it even worth it? Feels like it will be a meager non scaling bonus.

Fuck I hate this flat damage bulltshit so much. Never hated a games mechanics as much as ToS.
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>>124642747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjRFaHCVkA

I love this track so much. They really need to make the bosses this theme appears in a lot more balls to the wall.
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We are all talking about balance, but frankly, balance is the most easy thing to fix.

I mean, they should really care for maps, skill mechanics, effects and quests for now, since balance can be done after that just by changing numbers, moving skills to classes/circles and via new attribs.

Ofc we knwo that they will fuck this up in the end, but is not that hard to understand what is the priority.
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>>124643072
Yes but Clerics were even better. Clerics are great. Swordsmen are great. Wizards are okay. Archers are shit.
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>>124643030

PERIA WHEN
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>>124642790

They have another game that just ended their beta called Wolfknights. IMC is a typical KR mmo factory.
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I almost feel bad for them, the game would be a nightmare to balance without just completely breaking everything everywhere.
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>>124635895
>-auto-attack centric gameplay (ToS is nicknamed Tree of Auto-attacks)
Confirmed for dropping the game before reaching level 90 with his barblander
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>>124643207
>Swordsmen are great

If you follow these two specific builds with this specific gear and ignore everything else, then yeah, they're great. But everything outside of those two class combinations is dogshit that does lower damage than wizard and archer classes.
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>>124643221
Isnt WK kind of dead tho? It didnt generate anywhere near the attention ToS did. They should focus all they have on ToS. Clearly they bit mroe than they could chew, even if one can appreciate an almost simulatenous western release.
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how hard would the game be if every time you die you respawn in Klamidia with all red gear
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>>124643189
The priority is obviously fixing a bug that lets people circumvent the boring slog of the game in a beta test so players can no longer test different skills and different classes.

Fixing the actual game? Fuck that shit, that isn't how IMC rolls.
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>>124642747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUD6SQh55w

I kinda wish the game had more biomes available. This track would had fitted some desert planes/oasis.
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>>124643403
>Klamidia
Lost it.

It would make Priest with Resurection in high demand. Class interdependencies is great in MMOs, it brings the community together.

Fuck this fast food solo mmo nonsense that WoW democratized.
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>>124643403

A bit I guess. Let's go with this Everytime you die, all your gear drops and you lose exp both in class and base lvl
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>>124637257
So no more ways to get free xp cards?
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>>124643262
Their goals should be to make every class fun and playable rather than equally strong. I wouldn't care if Pyro-linker was worth two of any other class if Cryo wasn't such a bad option, mounts shouldn't disable half your skill tree and also archers.

>>124643403
Not harder, just more annoying.
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>>124643351

Judging from what I read(which is not much), reception is okay for a KR only early beta mmo. Nothing in the range of TOS(obviously) but okay for a new KR mmo.
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>>124642747
Best song coming through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdv2rC_zzBw
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>>124643601
So far nope, but I'm sure Dmn or someone else will find a workaround, since they applied a quick fix, they didn't actually fix the core issues.
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>>124643403
>Every time you die you lose one "like"
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>>124643573
It's funny that it would be worse if you only lost job exp.

>>124643601
[TreeTip] : You can do essentially anything with those commands and unless they patch the whole thing people will save them for RMT in OBT/release
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>>124643328
Thats not entirely true, every class tree has at least one path that does stupid damage. It's when you look at it in comparison to everything else other classes get you realize Swordsmen have it the best off.

Swordsmen can be built in a variety of ways and not be completely awful unless you pick Rodelero or something.
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featherfoot videos when? I can't wait to see my menstrual explosion waifu on action.
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Yet another exploit surfacing:

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-hidden-frames/124194

IMC PLS.
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>>124641820
Thanks m8.
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>>124643658
I fully agree. Right now I think players are fighting against limited resources to use their skills and strange and poorly thought out skill design decisions. Right now all classes are more or less boring by intent of balance... I don't think a single job you unlock makes you feel "wow, this is great"... and that's a big issue. You never feel strong.
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>>124643735
Im aware you can do a lot with those commands, but you need to know struct of command and parameters needed to be passed to work. And i don't know any of them
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/exploit-hidden-frames/124194/2
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>>124635034
Kyun is waifu material
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>>124643403
How about this:

Every time you die and accept/timeout, you respawn in the Klap with red gear.

BUT!

If someone princess carries you to a goddess statue, you will revive with no penalties!
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>>124644052
YOU CAN CHANGE HAIR
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>>124644079
>I don't think a single job you unlock makes you feel "wow, this is great"... and that's a big issue. You never feel strong.

Sadhu does.
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>>124643709
Guards start attacking you if you have < -10 likes.
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>>124644073
HOW
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>>124644264
And they nerfed it already. GG.
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>>124644212
Sound like real life!
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>>124643709
>>124644271
>to get a Like you must Kiss
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>>124643132
Corsair.
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>>124644052
What do you mean surfacing?
That faggot Dmn was posting this shit 3 weeks ago.
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You know i actually cant find the terms of services anywhere on the tos website.
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>>124637257
why dont you guys just dump this games shitty lua list
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>exploits in closed beta

QUICK, EVERYONE LOSE YOUR SHIT
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>>124644520
Why don't you just download IPFSuite?
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jCBT IS ALREADY ON GOING WHY ARE THERE NO R34 FUCK
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>>124644568
These exploits are so amateur not even prototypes have them.
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>>124644598
Pixiv
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>>124644408
>faggot Dmn
#SlayTheGay
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>>124644598
The game isn't doing very I well, I doubt any worthwhile artist will waste time drawing ToS porn.
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>>124644568
I'm just waiting for someone to make a Kelly comic with "honest hard-working players" and a crying statue of liberty.
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Kek, they should really give us more 2 weeks. That crap that was found in the extension beat out everything that was found on the first 3 weeks,
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so is the game just completly broken shit or does it just have issues that can be fixed if imc stops being lazy?
I really wanted tos to be good
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>>124644768
Wasnt there a doujin artist who wanted to make a doujin but the game wouldnt run on his craptop so he moved on to other things?
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>Heh heh I'm gonna exploit the shit out of this game to teach IMC a lesson hehehehe
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>>124644859
Game is completely broken and needs to revamp EVERYTHING. That's said I had fun while it lasted.
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>>124644859
>IMC
>fixing anything ever

It's broken shit and will stay that way. Sorry mate. It's cute at least though, so you could probably play with some people here next beta before people get sick of what a tedious, broken, directionless slog it is.
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>>124644598

Wait until after it ends.
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>>124645010
>That's said I had fun while it lasted.
Same.The only annoyance was channel crashing. I don't care about memelords changing their hair or gritaposting or even multiclassing-into-centurion.
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notes on Incineration so far for my fellow aspiring Plague Doctor friends

INCINERATION
Incinerate enemies with status ailments. The duration of incineration increases depending on the number of status ailments on the enemy.
Level 1 (Damage 1051) (Special Damage 68%) (Base duration 5 seconds)
-20 second cd
-target must have a debuff to use Incineration "Level 5 is more than enough in my opinion"
(so he thinks maxing the # of debuffs your character has for Incineration isn't worth it)
-level 1 duration is 2 seconds. +1 for each new level (so level 5 is 6 seconds)
-1 debuff = +2 seconds regardless of Incineration level (no limit to number of debuffs)
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>>124644859

>tos
>good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfEnsjvLfIQ

IMC PLS
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>>124641532
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjengqg98vxg3p8/New%20folder.rar?dl=0
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>>124645016
If people keep memeposting this kiss shit then I'd rather play with reddit and br's
Also the smug anime girl meme makes it pretty clear I should disregard whatever you say
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>>124645278
Chris-chan, this was already known for weeks here.
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>>124645239
Zalciai/Incineration confirmed Meta.

Zalciai has similar CD (20s), is cheap and easy to use, can tags plenty of mobs with it.
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Wasn't RO beta like this, too?

I remember there were several exploits you could do because the server accepted editted packets without checking if the action was valid.

It seems Kim Hakkyu still hasn't learned how to write a server software from scratch.
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Unsurprisingly the retards calling for bans are the same idiots who posted that the EXP was totally fine and that they had no trouble leveling (With the disclaimer that they only made it to 130 so far.)
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>>124645278
we've known about all the dumb lua bugs and hair shop for like 1month+ assuming you follow this thread, why is this a big deal now?
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>>124645421
Okay, can you fuck off to Reddit without them continuing? Your personality is fucking obnoxious
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>>124644598
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53080827

how do you turn frames into webms, I never learned that shit. anyway

>tfw you can't use stabbing on rogue tits
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>>124645421
There is no need to be upset.
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>>124645434
F-Fine.
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>>124645523
I'd post a smug anime girl but I'm not as obnoxious as you :^
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>>124645716
But I haven't posted a single image in this thread
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>>124645501
Why IMC didn't fix it if it's been know for weeks?
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>>124645478
How the fuck are they 130? I work 50 hours a week, spend time with friends and play bloodborne dlc and still managed to get lvl 200s on 2 ARCHERS.
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>>124645253
Ebin xd
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>>124645434
same for the faggot posting his chrono-mancer slut
like he is the first faggot on the world to ever try out that shit class

Like 2/3 of the posts on /tosg/ are attention whores, I bet they're keep posting shit even when the beta is over from stuff no one cares about.
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People played fucking ragnarok online 2, and that was complete trash, this game should hopefully stand a bit of a better chance. The potential is there to make a non-bad game out of it at least.
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>CheatLogData in game's root folder

How come I just noticed this now lol
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>>124645450
is Pandemic single target? Also how does Incineration get cast? Is it like an aoe that spread to nearby units or what?
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>>124643484
>>124645016
>game was so fukin boring xD i was so done like every1 else we all agree it sux big time
>fukin expoitin like crazy fuckin dumb game company XD HAHAHAHA i don even care dis game suxxxx lmao im expoitin cuz i hate dis game :P
>WTF why would THEY FIX the EXPLOYUD i was usin to NOT HAVE ANY FUN in dis game fukin retard IMC i hate dis shit even mor now definitely not playin PREORDER CANCELLED
>AMIRITE GUIEZ ? WE ALL fuckin hated dis game all da time xD o someone replyd to my kiss bait :^) hehe
>the anonymous hacker known as 4chan wins again
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>>124646086
Incineration is multi target, it's a pbaoe. A bit like Zaibas, except that it doesn't linger on the ground.
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>>124645814
Probably because it wasn't reported :^)
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>>124645421

All in all I honestly think /tosg/ was one of the better, more civil threads as far as /vg/ MMO threads go, we had a good run and I hope it stays that way at release. The kiss stuff is mostly harmless IMO and it's just a few people, though I agree they should keep it to themselves.

If you think this is bad you've clearly never been to TERA, XIV, any of the cancer weeaboo ERP MMO generals. /rog/ is aight though.
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>>124645867
That's nothing

I got shot in the face by a gang of hassidic jews right before the beta, cornered and anally raped by a pack of stray dogs that somehow managed to shit down my throat, fell down some stairs and landed on my back, threw up in a geyser of blood, shit, and vodka all over myself, and was dragged into my computer room, and while I was being beaten by several arab terrorist suicide bombers, I still managed to jack off to Grita and level 3 full SPR archers to 200.
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>>124645278
>100 iCoins Required
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>>124645867
niggas can't even manage the EXP cards or some shit

or too retarded and can't clear simple linear quests
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>>124646012
It lists my //pings and //fps
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>>124643164
Conviction lowers resistance by 100 for 5 seconds. It has a 25 second cooldown and 2 charges. It's garbage.
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>>124646232
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>>124646459
Apparently it lists every // command you use in the chat.
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>>124646327
I remember misclicking the tera general and was fucking 90% erp 10% about some shit in their life and 0% about the game. That made me rethink about generals in general
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>>124646327
>The kiss stuff is mostly harmless IMO and it's just a few people, though I agree they should keep it to themselves.
This fucking garbage is annoying and only invites more shitposting. Worst thing is that mods don't respond to reports at all.
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>>124646542
Figured as much. IMC is eternally clueless.
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>>124645972
Problem is RO2 didn't have 7 years of development and paid trips all over the world for their staff to gather data.

ToS has been a huge money sink for a while, and if it doesn't start producing money soon the project may die sooner than we all think.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/v3yqpaeeif/

Plague Doc build.

I was gonna test this build out but too bad it was patched. Hopefully they fix bokor and pardoner....
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>>124646327
Kissing is adorable. It's a very cute game.
The only person who went overboard with it with Cattly and that's because he's a cat ear wearing boy slut who deserves to be captured and chained up in the inevitable /tosg/ guild hall rape dungeon. To the bed, the wall, whatever. He needs to be bullied and teased until the pleasure center of his brain snaps and he's forced to like girls. Put a cow headband on him because after days of this treatment he'll only be good for being milked by sorceresses.
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>>124645421
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>>124646327
I agree. Sure, they should tone down the kissposting, but it's not a big deal and it takes up so little of the thread. The only times when it took up more were really early in the beta. It's nothing as bad as most MMO generals here, probably because we're still in beta and don't have those generals leaking into it. Hell, if the people that didn't like kissposting didn't respond to it telling the world how much they disliked it, there would be even less posts per thread about it. The posts themselves are like 1-10 posts a thread, out of 750+.

/tosg/ is one of the few MMO generals I can tolerate. I can't stand /xivg/ at all and refuse to ever be associated with it
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>>124646232
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Does anyone know how Kabalist work?
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>>124646957
>What is SP the class.
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>>124646957
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733/887
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>>124646724
I'd argue that RO2 probably had a more tortured development. The original game spent almost 6-8 years in development, and had a sub optimal game to show for it (though I enjoyed what existed). It was so poorly received that the entire game was scrapped. They decided to reuse their Requiem MMO engine and slap on RO nostalgia assets on top of it to cash in quickly, the end result was a game with almost no soul and just plain not fun to play.

For all it's faults, TOS is the better game. With a bit of work and polish, it COULD be successful... lets just see if they have (and even know) what that takes. I'm skeptical, but we'll see.
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>>124646724

Source? I am one of the lucky few that found TOS just a few days before ICBT2 regisration.
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>>124646753
Oh boy, Doc theorycrafting!

That looks good, but wouldn't you want another rank of Krivis instead of Pardoner so Zaibas isn't utter shit? Incinerate + a few debuffs + L5 Discerning would probably last until the next incinerate is up anyway.
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And then Fedimian died
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>Wanted to spend last day with a special person and maybe kiss
>Game went up in flames
>They haven't log on for days
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>>124646086
>first time doing webm
>amidoinitrite

also to the anon who told me filesize limit 2.8, it didn't work so I had to use 2.7 :(
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>>124647172
>>124647147
Any more info besides the SP recovery skill?
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Patch notes for maintenance soon
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>>124646828
Actually Cattly should just be permabanned for representing everything that is wrong with /vg/ and 4chan in general these days. You know, gay roleplaying, pretending to be cute anime girls, steam boyfriends, and just general attention whoring. I love moe anime, but it has been absolutely ruined by these people.

Oh but I'm sure he'll "clean up his act" when launch rolls around.
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>>124645421
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Remember that tripfag that used to come here? People ignored him and went away.

Kissfags are just ERPfags who need attention and mask their delusion on a gesture that isn't even kissing. Just ignore them and they'll go away.
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