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We Roman now edition
>FAQs & General Info (Updated November 8th, 2015)
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>Attila
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Age of Charlemagne DLC -- https://youtu.be/RNOy63UZXvM
>Warhammer
Campaign Gameplay Walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJUWImJUZrU
Previous War >>124593992
Aksum are the true heirs to Rome.
1st fore Empire 2
>>124662674
after middle evil dark ages 2
Medieval 2 best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCEI0-Yrp1c
Speaking of migrating
Who is everyone's favorite great migrator?
I was busy for a little bit, but after the last thread I want to play as a migrating faction, settle in Syracuse and become Graeco-Roman Pagan.
Pic related is all the great migrators. Visigoths start at war with the WRE and it's very difficult to make the crossing to Syracuse without getting murdered by the Roman navy.
Vandals get ship bonuses and I hate ships.
Alans get a roster update in a couple days.
(I have no idea about any of the unit rosters)
That leaves Ostrogoths, Suebians and maybe Visigoths if I get good enough to sack my way through the East, down to Africa and over the sea to Syracuse.
Who should I play as? I'm incapable of making decisions on my own
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>124663103
but on your blue sueb shoes
>>124663103
Visigoths for Based King Alaric
>>124663057
I edited this into the main theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8viSgLTVM
and added this into the Crusader States and Teutonic Order music list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rgmPjYVwOM
Assuming you have Stainless Steel mod.
>>124663103
Visigoths start at war with the ERE, but neutral with the WRE, I believe. That's how it was in my last Visigoths game, anyway.
Anyway, my favorite is probably the Visigoths, but if you want to settle in Syracuse and the rest of Italty, you should go with Ostrogoths. They can recruit Roman units, don't suffer a penalty for occupying Roman towns, and it satisfies my history autism.
>>124663165
Everyday until announced?
I probably should've mentioned this again, but the reason I want to Syracuse so badly is that Etna gives a bonus to Roman paganism that I want
>>124663191
Suebians seem like the easy way since they are friends with everyone
Can you tell me anything about their roster and what their strengths are?
>>124663250
King Alaric iscute
I'm considering to play as Visigoths, I like their win condition settlements.
But I have dark memories of trying to take boats to Rome to sack it early on, and getting my fleet sunk by Roman navy.
What would be the best way to get to Syracuse? I can't go around the right because Constantinople is in the way and I'm bad at video games
>>124663885
I was being stupid and you are right, I didn't look thoroughly enough and confused red ERE flags with WRE flags.
Visigoths are neutral with Western and at war with the Eastern Roman empire.
What I also forgot/didn't look up is that the Ostrogoths are apparently at war with the WRE (not with the ERE), so I'm not too sure how to get to Syracuse from there.
Ostrogoths probably have the most useful faction trait
>>124663103
>Visigoths: The Move-ie
>by Dreamworks
u r pretty cute, wanna be Greek together
>>124664838
What you could do as the Ostrogoths is go through ERE lands quickly, heading into Greece and then going by boat around Italy to land next to Syracuse. Going Ostrogoths is even more perfect because you can claim to be reviving the true Pagan Roman Empire.
>>124663103
play the invisigoths
romans cant kill what they cant see
I'm never going to kill these fuckers am i?
> removed rhodes
> there surviving stack attacked my settlement in a last ditch effort and were destroyed
> the remaining units run and hide behind that mountain
> send my stack out to finish them, but their agent stops my army with disrupt orders
this is a few turns later
> now they have two agents stopping my stack from killing those surivor
> so i march an army down from pella to do it, and now they send their second agent to road block my second army
I'm about to build a third stack just to wipe them out, i have more armies then those motherfuckers have agents
>>124663103
Vandals are pretty good, their +150% from raiding/sacking is INSANE
Looting one major coastal city gives you easy dosh that can jumpstart/help your economy, and you can loot the city again a couple turns later after they rebuild
>tfw EB2
>tfw no qt Roman girl that will bear you true sons of Mars and daughters of Venus to bring glory to Rome.
>>124665203
just use agents
Will we ever get a full Reconquista campaign or is the current political climate prevent that?
>>124665846
>or is the current political climate prevent that
No
>>124665190
Going that route is probably my best shot.
One thing that bothers me about Ostrogoths is the provinces the game wants to to conquer for win conditions (they are around the ocean on the right side of Italy), there are no nice borders that I can easily fortify against the Hunnic menace and the Greeks
The Iberian peninsula has an unpleasent shape, but at least there are clear borders once you conquered it all
>>124664942
>wanna be Greek togetherI'm not sure what you mean anon haha ;)
>>124665262
Do you think Vandals are still good if I ignore their boats?
I dislike naval combat
>>124665196
What are best Invisigoth units?
>>124665846
Charlemagne already is kind of Reconquista since you can go reconquer Christian soil from the infidels
As far as I know there is no short and closely defined time period for Reconquista (google says 718 to 1492) so I'm not sure if there would be a point to making a campaign specifically about that area when Charlemagne kind of serves the same purpose
>>124665567
>he doesn't want an elven waifu to love and adore
>he wants to remain a filthy barbarian who shits on concrete, instead of shitting in comfy outhouses and wiping with nice and soft leaves, more delicate than even modern tissue paper.
That's fucking hilarious anon.
>>124667013
>What are best Invisigoth units?
Naked warriors, lack of clothes ensures the only things visible are just floating swords
>>124667281
scholars say they might still be among us
>>124667013
Yeah you can ignore their ships, although i gotta say their T3 melee ships are tiptop OP
That said, the vandal unit roster is one of the best in the game. Really good infantry and great cavalry with the noble alani cav.
>>124667013
You could ignore those provinces until you kill off the Huns. Once they are gone, you should be the dominant power with your Gothic, Germanic, and Roman units. Then you can sweep across the world, get those victory conditions, and recreate a Pagan Roman Empire.
>not purging the infidels
>tfw EB2
quick which norse faction do I play
>>124668135
Danes if you like ships and Geats if you like stronk nordic winter.
So what faction bonuses do you think each faction will get in TW;WH?
>>124669125
It's less faction bonuses and more factions being different from each other e.g. corruption, book of grudges, that AI whaag army and so on
>>124669125
Greenskins are definitely getting something to increase the money they get from razing and sacking.
I'm really hoping that the Empire has the ability to recruit unique units from conquered people. I'm just really hoping the other human lands have some of their iconic shit, like Hochland long rifles.
So what is everyone's Vampire Counts music to get pumped for the inevitable first look?
The classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY
>>124669482
Any song by evanescence
>>124669517
Not nearly groovy enough for the Von Carsteins
>>124669482
Twilight OST
>>124669125
>Empire
Commerce, Recruitment Bonus
>Vampire Counts
Low unit Upkeep, No attrition
>Orks
WAAAGGH!!! nuff said
>Dorfs
Upgrade bonus, high morale
>Chaos Warriors
Raiding Bonus, Increased unit refreshment.
how to properly remove barber filth
> siege battle
> they hide behind their walls with levies, oathsworn and slingers
> my giant ballista, archers and slingers blast holes in their walls and remove their missile units and keep firing until they are out of ammo
> send in war dogs immediacy after
> war dogs do their thing and remove the majority of there levy units
> march my general and three units of spartan hoplites into the breach and remove the oathsworn and their general
> any routing units are taken out by scorpions emplacements
> heroic victory
most of the losses were my dogs and arches
>>124667205
elves are fags
post memes
>>124672994
My friend,
>>124672994
>I've got the Total Warā¢ horn!
Really CA?
>>124673787
I think that one might be intentionally retarded
>No Kingdom of Dumnonia in SW England in Charlemagne
>Can't reclaim Britannia and expel the Saxon invader
>Kingdom of Kent is included
Why does CA never want me to buy their games.
>>124676884
Maybe they'll make dlc for their dlc
>>124677926
Wouldn't surprise me
>No East Anglia either
One fucking job CA
ded
Vampires when?
>>124683275
After Tomb Kings
>>124665846
Wut
Play medieval 2 for reconquista
In Attila, does rank and experience still diminish when replenishing units?
>>124683275
Anime is so stupid
Reminder that all tomb kings posters are skeletons!
DO NOT TRUST THEM!
>>124683275
Cute vampire dude.
>>124683275
After charlemange comes out I think
What are some good mods for Rome 2 that isn't DEI?
>inb4 >DEI >good
>>124685713
Radious mod is for understanders of strategy
>>124685215
buteveryone has a skeleton inside them
why does it seema like every faction is full of fucbois?
fucking greece, spain, gaul, illyria and africa are basically governed by friendly factions to each other
>i'm talking about r2
also, how do I make a client state? Syracuse simply refuses to acknowledge inherent Roman superiority
>>124686717
brutally beat them up and enforce demands
what the fuck is CA's obsession with muh graphics and muh 1v1 combat when battles go so fucking fast in rome 2 you spend all your time zoomed out?
>>124668093
But Anon...you are the infedel,Praise Allah.
>>124691025
Rome 2 has the slowest vanilla combat after M2, and they mostly eliminated dueling, which you can mod out entirely if it really bothers you.
Holy fuck Shogun 2 is such a polished game and the models look so damn good. Fuck this is a good game, only problem is the fucking food cost of castles, top tier farms need to produce more food.
>>124691426
Why bother upgrading your castles at all? Just sally out and fight a field battle you dishonorbu gaijin.
>>124691638
To build more buildings. I really hate the building limit in the newer total war games.
>>124691426
Its only a problem if you upgrade every castle for some reason
You only upgrade your unit producing provinces
What is the best Celtic faction in:
(1) Rome
(2) Rome 2
(3) Attila
>>124691426
>Shogun 2
>models look so damn good
They all look like they are smeared with Vaseline and use way too bright and vibrant colours.
>>124691910
1. Britons
2. Britons
3.WRE
>>124691910
>celtic faction
>>124692186
>I like Hellenic faction #42783
Fuck I wish replenishment was implemented into rome 1 and medieval 2, I can't play without it now but modded rome 1 and medieval 2 is so fucking good.
>>124692368
>having to send units back to be retrained
>your capital is the only town you can train those units
>mfw
I think Empire had the best replenishment.
2 Days before we subject the pagans to Christian rule goys.
>>124692368
The upside of the old system was that you could retain units to give them gold equipment.
>>124694307
This. It sucks that in Shogun 2 I can't retrain my units in provinces with better weapon and armour upgrades.
>>124694554
I don't understand why they removed this. Is it some coding bs that conflicts with replenishment?
>consider picking takeda
>music starts playing in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj5exKugFoI
>remember that cheapest and most common unit in the game counters every takeda unit
I watched this lindebeige fellow and he explained that ancient/medieval warfare actual battles were a fair rarity, and that sieges were the way wars were lost/won
Having played total war for years and thinking about it, that sort of makes sense
Then I went and read an entry level book called "Medieval Sieges" quite informative and seemed to back his claims fairly well
Any of you guys historyfags? Any discrepancies I should know?
>>124694658
No idea. I'm kinda upset they got rid of armour upgrades changing unit appearance too.
>>124695050
For one Lindybeige is not a historian, but a man on youtube that likes to talk about history.
>>124695163
I didn't think he was accredited or anything, but like I said I read some source material that told the same story
>>124695050
But sun tzu said sieges were a last resort
What that guy said is pretty untrue
90% the famous battles in antiquity to middle ages were field battles
>>124665567
These guys look ready to fuck some shit up
>>124695365
Because they were big and bloody.
Sun Tzu also said that defeating an enemy without fighting is the true art of war.
Yet people in the Middle Ages were:
1. Mostly retarded with no skill in war
2. Mostly peasants led by retarded nobles
3. Very stupid.
>>124668103
>2 tfw EB 2 posts
It seems I have been rused.
>mfw
Does the Sengoku Gekokujo (TROM) mod include the FOTS changes?
>>124695468
You mean get fucked up.
>>124695507
>everyone in the middle ages were mentally retarded
love this meme
Are the History people angry that CA is making the next TW a fantasy game?
>>124695365
Chinese sieges were very different to European ones. In china castles weren't a huge thing, but every city that was worthy of putting on a map had bigass walls of rammed earth and stone.
I remember there was a Song-Jin siege where the Song troops held out and eventually turned to cannibalism to survive while the Song Imperial Court sat on its thumbs like a kek.
Conscripted soldier: I didn't think it would end this way.
Veteran soldier: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
Conscripted soldier: What? Tuldrix? See what?
Veteran soldier: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
Conscripted soldier: Well, that isn't so bad.
Veteran soldier: No. No, it isn't.
>>124695817
They were, there was a ton of asspain leading up to its announcement
things seem to have chilled though
>>124695906
>mfw no WW1 TW
Fuck I want it!
>>124696023
>WW1 TW
but that doesn't work
>>124695817
>Warhammer Fantasy is pretty much 1500-1600's Europe on steriods
Why would we be mad?
>>124695507
Exactly once your field army is dead, your empire is doomed
You could argue most battles are sieges, becausw it takes only a few decisive victories in the field to cripple an empire
>>124696023
>>124696080
Great War mod for Napoleon?
When I'm a horde and I build an Artisan to give me shekels every turn, do I only get the money if I'm encamped?
>>124695817
Wrong.
2 different teams.
Fantasy team is working on the Warhammer game and 2 standalone expansions that seamlessly join the main game if installed together along with DLC making it the largest most detailed world they've created. Games Worskhop are heavily involved in the process so expect a lot of expensive DLC's on par with Paradox Jewry.
History team is continuing with Attila and supporting Rome 2 with a new DLC pack and Patch. Probably early stages in their next full game aswell. Hopefully on a better engine.
OP is slow.
New blog for Warhammer.
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Building_blog
How settlements are managed and threats to your regions with new screens.
Also Vampire Counts mentioned. Video of them soon?
>>124697118
That thing is like 2 threads old
You are slow
>>124697161
>it's not in the OP
OP failed anon. All blogs should be in the first post.
>>124697421
stop being so lazy
>>124669482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dy28ef-_tA
Mandatory theme.
>>124689150
but Syracuse has been my buddies since turn 1, I can't do that to my greek boys, I only want them to feel safe, to feel... loved
>>124697118
>http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Building_blog
>literaly blogpost
> All these vampire keks
>>124699279
Really? "vampire keks"? That's the best you could come up with?
Truly, tombkeks are the most pathetic faction
>>124697118
The corruption thing sounds interesting. Will it be like culture or religion in other games? Will it be a cost thing to reverse, like razing a settlement?
>>124692646
I fucking love this desu. It adds a strategic/logistical challenge to the campaign.
Altough in vainilla Rome it could get really frustating as men died like flies, but in mods like EB this wasn't that much of a problem. In my ongoing romani campaign I always have a reserve legion (consisting of 1 unit of each velite/hastati/prĆncipe/triarii and socii) to send to a battle front every year in order to substitute the wearied fighting legion.
>
deader than a necron
>>124699991
Necrons arent really dead desu senpai
>>124700161
they are when humanity finds them, xenolover
>>124699737
Yea the current replenishment system is pretty broken like op broken.
On its own a unit should replenish like 1-2%. In a province with the correct building it should be 5-10%. No more than 10%for the highest.tiers
>>124700350
Dont even joke about it. They can pull Sigmar with 40k universe with that reset all button
>be Tsu
>siege fort with Vassal helping me
>he has like 15 cannons so should be easy mode
>battle starts
>vassals guns are on the other side of the fort
>enemy cav rushes them and now they're all dead
>vassal goes full retard on the fort before my troops get into position
>all dead
>say fuck this and retreat
>90% of my men dead
ebin :DDD great feature
Why is this a fucking thing?
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>>124699279
Is there an army more irrelevant than tombkeks?
>>124701126
I think you can give limited orders to you allies. Also you should have known your ally's deployment from their position on the campaign map.
>>124701182Lizardmen.
>>124701554
Wouldn't have helped to be honest.
What annoys me is that despite me having all of my troops alive when I clicked "Concede Defeat" over 90% were dead on the campaign map. Can we no longer retreat anymore?
>>124701182anime can fuck off
>>124701830same
>>124701810
Click withdraw on you troops.
>>124701739
At least they are fighting against Chaos. Tombfags do nothing.
>>124701810
You have to click on the white flag button on each of your units and wait until each one visibly retreats from the battlefield. If you don't, then you will suffer 90% casualties
>>124701126
>>124701810
being this bad at video games
>>124701182
Elf C*cks desu senpai
So what parts of the world are they going to add with expansions?
How do I raid trade routes with my ships?
Do I just sit on the red line and go into raid stance?
>>124702757
Elves are literally the most important race right next to Chaos. Empire is a joke in comparison.
Ulthuan / Naggaroth
>>124703004
Yup, exactly that.
>>124703017
Elves are literally the most gay race
>>124699737
>autism
>>124702918
The new world is definitely going to be the next expansion.
Also, if the big regions are going to be expansions, can we expect only a couple of race dlcs, but a bunch of them that expand existing rosters?
>>124703017
I'm talking about Elf C*cks not elves
>>124703132
Brets? At least they helped with Arabs and Chaos invasions.
>>124703113
>muh Fagolas
>>124703323
>I dont know about warhammer fantasy, but I will talk anyway
They are even worse than Fagolas in movies
>tfw downloaded radious and it seems ok
why did /twg/ lie to me
>>124703493
Here's something that's not a lie: you have shit taste
>>124702918
Elves are a shoe in, but I am not sure how their expansion could be. Wood elves will be a separate DLC/FLC since they are already in the current map's territory.
At first I was skeptical of Araby being added but it would be weird to have the New World pack with just High elves, Dark elves, and lizardmen. The only other factions in that area would be some chaos waste guys like the Hung?
>>124703493
TOKUGAWA MOUNTED NODACHI KISHO NINJA
Will the upcoming Dec. 10 patch fuck with saves?
>>124703493
SANDSTORM RIDERS
>>124703125
In the vanilla release alone there could be race dlc for night goblins, daemons, Bretonnia and Skaven.
>>124663103
Are you playing Attila modded or otherwise?
>>124703442
No they are not. WH elves are nothing like Jackson's crap.
TOTAL WAR CHINA ANNOUNCED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aIkPIFq4M
>>124703493
N O D A C H I N I N J A
V I S I G O T H I C R E I N F O R C E M E N T S
>>124703601
That's a vanilla unit though. Still not as bad as Ostrogothic sharp spears. Go home radious
>>124703675
olde news
>>124703675
anime can fuck off
>>124703559
>The only other factions in that area would be some chaos waste guys like the Hung?
Amazons. Greenskin tribes. Barbarians. Tilean new world colonies.
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Dwarf_Army_Roster
>>124703617
I'm playing vanilla.
My migrating is going well, my Ostrogoth armies have settled in Syracuse and I have converted to Greaco-Roman Paganism to restore the true Roman empire.
Right now I'm getting ready to prepare an invasion force for Africa while I set up my economy at home, I want to conquer Carthage
FULL DWARF ROSTER
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Dwarf_Army_Roster
IT'S SHIT
>>124703779
Well tilean colony would be neato. Amazons are humans or elves or what?
>>124704017
>>124703835
>Irondrakes (Trollhammer Torpedo)
>Gyrocopter (Brimstone Gun)
WARHAMMER FAGS!
what are these things, and whyto they make me hyped?
Full Roster
Note that Legendary Lords, Lords and Heroes can be āMeleeā, āRangedā, āCasterā or a hybrid mix of types. This indicates their ideal role on the battlefield.
Legendary Lords:
High King Thorgrim Grudgebearer ā Melee (Race Leader)
o Faction-wide trait: āAge of Retributionā ā Progressive, for a Dwarf, Grudgebearerās fame in striking out entries in the Book of Grudges is the toast of drinking halls the length of the Worlds Edge Mountains. As a result his armies are easier to fill with eager Dwarfen Warriors of all types.
Ungrim Ironfist ā Melee
o Faction-wide trait: āOathboundā ā Ungrimās tireless search for the ultimate foe inspires other Slayers to join him in his quest for glorious death, making vast units of them easier to recruit and maintain.
Lords:
- Lord ā Melee
Heroes:
- Master Engineer ā Ranged
- Thane - Melee
Mounts:
- Throne of Power (Thorgrim Only)
Melee Infantry:
- Dwarf Warriors
- Dwarf Warriors (Great Weapons)
- Hammerers
- Ironbreakers
- Longbeards
- Longbeards (Great Weapons)
- Miners
- Miners (Blasting Charges)
- Slayers
Missile Infantry:
- Quarrellers
- Quarrellers (Great Axes)
- Thunderers
- Irondrakes
- Irondrakes (Trollhammer Torpedo)
Vehicles:
- Gyrocopter (Steam Gun)
- Gyrocopter (Brimstone Gun)
Artillery:
- Cannon
- Flame Cannon
- Grudge Thrower
- Organ Gun
>>124704115
FIST ROCKETS
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>>124704194
>>124704017
>tfw no specialized Slayers
Reminder that Football is banned in the Roman Empire
>>124704194
>>124704017
>>124703835
>no Runepriest.
FUCKING WHY CAAAAAAAAA
>>124704208
THAT'S STUPID! SO FUCKING STUPID!I love it!
>>124704261
>krauts
>romans
>w-why isn't muh special snowflake unit in the game??
every time
>>124704285
they need to keep something as DLC
>>124704194
Do you think arty spam will be viable?
>>124704103
Humans.
>>124704115
All I've been able to find so far on the brimstone gun is "18",D3 Shots S5, Flaming, Quick to fire, Armor piercing, Dwarf Crafted", and "I like both, although I am digging the Idea that the Brimstone guny makes people think twice if they really want to attack our Gyro with their chaff. Light Cavalry, Skirmishers, flying Skirmishers, all of them are in danger of being shot down or forced to Panic due to Stand and Shot." and " as I'm thinking the Gyros are a great unit for chaff control and redirection/flank protection, I'm leaning towards the Brimstone gun.". Chaff is "Small units that have very little combat ability and are generally included in a list just to get in the way of opposing units and die. Typically used to block movement or force overruns in unfavourable directions. Ideally very cheap in points cost and the more maneuverable the better."
So I'd think Brimstone gun is a machine gun.
>>124704434
Huh, so the steam gun sounds like works for focusing shit like giants, while the brimstone gun has more scattered fire that fucks meat shields.
where are there no elephant mounted segmentata praetorian archer cataphracts in R2
>>124704547
> The main armament of a gyrocopter is a steam gun. When the valve is released, a blast of super-heated steam from the engine blasts out of the barrel with a hissing scream.
From the total war page. Not clear if the blast is flame-thrower esque or more just a single big whollop.
>>124704547
It's the opposite, the gyrocopter video CA put out said that the steam gun is for tight clusters of units, whereas the brimstone gun is for larger and stronger guys.
>>124696008
>They were,
>he believed the memes
I doubt anyone here was actually militantly against TW fantasy.
I was hoping for a Medeval 3 but war hammer looks interesting
>tfw no LOTR TW
that would be goat
>>124704945
>>tfw no LOTR TW
>that would be goat
You really think so?
It might just be me but I just don't feel like LotR lends itself very well as the setting of a Total war
They tried to get the license and Tolkien wouldn't sell
Good.
>>124705036
Same. It would be pretty boring. WH world is 10 times more interesting.
STREAM WHEN
>>124705086
I don't think Warhammer is a better setting in any way, but it's much better suited for a video game
Warhammer and Total War fit very well together
>>124702918
Are there Sub Saharan africans in WH?
would be cool to have Zulus or somehting
>>124704285
gameplay reasons, they said they don't want dwarves to have magic of any kind.
>>124705176
WE WUZ WARHAMMERS
>>124704194
Holy fucking shit they have more arty types than ranged units, this faction will be the super lame arty faction
>>124705130
Sometime after 11 EST.
How can I keep myself occupied until thursday?
>>124705301
>EST
shaking my head
Is it possible in the latest Total Wars to set saved camera positions on the battle map, so that you can quickly snap to a view or position with a press of a button?
I'm sure it is but i cant see how at all.
>>124705162
>>124705086
>>124705036
no it would be goat.
the LOTR mod for Medieval 2 already proves it
The Oliphaunts would be so cool.
'
Are there elephant tier units in warhammer?
>>124705482
>the LOTR mod for Medieval 2 already proves it
It really doesn't
Going to take a guess as to which units will be omitted from Dark Elves
- Anything with tits
- Anything to do with cult of pleasure
Goodbye Witch elves I guess
>>124705482
>med 2 mod
Compare the LotR mod with the Warhammer mod
Warhammer was developed to be a table top wargame. It has much more variety in races and has a magic system that is much more fleshed out and armies that are much more unique and easier to translate into a game.
I like LotR, but I don't think it could ever make as good of a TW setting as Warhammer can.
>>124705250
come on. it would be cool with some supercharged Impis
what's that one mod for FotS that's supposed to be good
>>124705546
>It really doesn't
it really does. not really anything more to say there. it literally does.
>>124705648
I disagree
>>124704763
>>124704434
>>124704547
>they don't play tabletop
Jesus christ the steam gun is for low damage but maximum spread and the brimstone gun is for killing one or two heavily armoured units at a time. The trollhammer torpedo is also for killing high armoured tough monsters like trolls or chosen.
>>124703559
There will be orc/goblin dlc for Eltharion who is now just an orc genocider instead of magic blind swordsman
>>124705702
>Summoning Teethman
>>124705763
You are wrong.
>>124705162
this.
Altough it would be interesting to see what characteristics they'd add to a LOTR total war
>>124705482
>are there oliphaunt tier units in warhammer
watch the trailers there's giant spiders with howdahs strapped on in three fucking trailers. whats so hard about going on gw website and scrolling through the army lists?
>>124705869
we'll agree to disagree
>>124706001
I've seen the spiders anon they're had to miss.
let's see if you can read this time
Are There Elephant Tier Units In Warhammer?
yes or no is much quicker than me scrolling through army lists
>>124705775
Why did you reply to me? You just repeated what I said.
>>124705763
>>124705869
>>124705546
Great discussion guys, making sure /twg/ stays high quality
>>124706162
The spiders are elephant tier. Does it need to be a literal elephant to please you?
>>124706162
Yes, like the arachnarok spiders who are massive. They're admitedly not quite Oliphant-tier, the Lizardmen do however have very large dinosaurs they ride on,as well as some factions being able to field Dragons as mounts for their leaders.
Were they lying when they said there would be a stream today?
>>124706352
>Does it need to be a literal elephant
well yes I demand tusks. I don't givee a shit about weak squishy spiders
I want muh Oliphaunts
>>124706387
>the Lizardmen do however have very large dinosaurs they ride on
ok now we're talking. that sounds really cool
>>124706490
Then you should have specified that you were an elephant enthusiast. I figured you were referring to units that fill the role of war elephant.
>>124706490
"Elephant tier" doesn't mean "literally elephants"
>>124706490
Chaos dudes can have mammoths too, but I don't know if that is going to be in the game ever.
>>124706162
>yes or no much quicker than scrollign through army lists
well fuck you too. No there aren't giant elephants in warhammer fantasy but there are monsters that are ridden and are larger than oliphaunts.
>>124706490
> I don't givee a shit about weak squishy spiders
>squishy spiders
Spiders have natural body armor in their chitinous exo-skeleton. A Spider that size would be much better naturally armored than a Mumakil
>>124705176
Yes. But we know very little about them.
>>124706490
Oh right, and Ogres ride giant ass Mammoths that breath ice. Ogres are in general elephant tier themselves though.
>>124706605
>I figured you were referring to units that fill the role of war elephant
oh sorry about that
>>124706742
>Chaos dudes can have mammoths too
FUCK YES. Too bad they're forcing us to pay for cut content Chaos...don't really know what to do there
>>124706749
other anons gave several examples of elephant like units. Mamoths, dinosaurs etcI-I'm afraid of spiders
Faction reveal stream is starting soon
I would also like to remind everyone that the leak is false and that, as I predicted, Sicily will be a playable faction.
>>124705260
Just like in tabletop.
>>124706912
one canon ball will pierce the exoskeleton and hit the squishy inside, no bones to stop it. a spider would die instantly. They're shit tier
>>124706921
now we're fukcing talking. Mamoths are ust hairy super sized eles
>>124705630
>Slaanesh demons will be cut
Don't fucking do this to me CA.
>>124704194
I do hope we'll get quests to strike out grudges in the book
>>124706490
Ogres have carnivorous mammoths.
>giant Hun fleet aproaches my capital
>they accept a peace treaty
god bless
>>124707181
Slaanesh hero is already confirmed, so there might be slut demons
>>124707076
Ogres are one of the least popular factiosn though so you won't see it until 3rd game msot likely
>>124707076
Elephant bones won't stop cannons either. Actually a thick exoskeleton would be much harder to pierce.
>>124707193
That's how it works.
>>124707310
this shit keeps getting better and better
>>124707397
yeah I expect as much. won't even be surprised if ogres aren't even playable at all from what I've heard. But maybe weƤll get Ogre mamoth mercs?
>>124707427
Elephants can be armored though. Stupid goblins don't armor their shitty spiders
>>124707582
post that carnivorous dinosaur the leader rides on
Total war Twitch time!
>>124707076
>one canon ball will pierce the exoskeleton and hit the squishy inside, no bones to stop it. a spider would die instantly. They're shit tier
One cannonball that pierces the exoskeleton won't kill a spider, the only way that would kill it is if it completely destroys a vital internal organ that lacks a replacement that can be put into overdrive.
You hit the joint of a spiders leg and you throw it out of balance,but it will still hobble around and kill shit.
You break an elephant's leg bones, especially one that size, and you incapacitate it. You hit it in the side and the blunt force trauma can still break bones, and size elephants completely rely on and internal bone structure to work, you completely fuck them over.
A V A R S ?
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STREAM STARTED
IT'SAVARS
>>124707834
Avars.
>>124707834
T H R O A T
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BYZANTABOOS ON SUICIDE WATCH
That's the Alans faction trait.
Does that mean Alans will get a new faction trait in the roster update?
They are not in the same campaign but same trait is boring to be quite honest family
>>124708160
Feel like that trait should be for all horse fuckers, and Alans should get something else.
>>124708220
Horse fuckers are strong enough as is, please no
Even assuming Azhag has a pretty limited roster of spells these buffs look brutal for cavalry/ monstrous engagements
>>124708160
Why would they change the Alan factions trait?
It's a super good horsefucker trait, and Alans are even more horsefuckery now, after their rework.
>>124708160
Probably not. The Lombards have the same exact trait as the Sassanids aswell
>>124708328
>The Purpose Sun of Xereus
What the fuck is that shit?
>>124708448
warhammer
>>124708448
it says "purple"
>>124707793
ok ok I was just fucking around with that line. I just dislike spiders alright? Elephants are cooler
>>124708448
Purple Sun. It works like this.
AoE instant death spell.
>>124708680
anime can fuck off
Who do I play, fellas?Give me one reason not to play based Nagaoka and switch sides halfway through to the Imperials.
>>124708937
Tsuffering
>>124706992
>meme of sicily
>playable
anon it's time to let go
>>124708448
its a way of killing a lot of low intelligence (called iniative) units at once. It'll probably float acorss the battlefield like that bad moon thing.
>>124706992
>Wanting to play a shit dying empire
Lol
>>124708937
You play as the fucking Aizu and you make a true Samurai Republic.
>>124709126
>its a way of killing a lot of low intelligence
so the entire Vamp cunt undead part of their army would be erradicated then?
>>124707316
>there might be slut demons
They just need to cover the tits really.
>>124708676
There is literally nothing wrong with spiders. Spiders are our friends.
>>124709167
>768
>dying
>>124708937
Its easier to go west to east than east to west.
The game is easy no matter what if you know how to kite and go for line/armstrongs early.
Quality>quantity meh familia
>let's ride my horse into those spears
>>124709126
It creates a big orb of magical darkness that moves through battlefield and every living thing it touch dies.
Literally >>124708680
One of the most deadly spells in game that can wipe out entire units.
>>124709227
yeah real friendly when they eat Dwarf and men alike and spit out their equipment. I saw the animation anon. They're abominations
>>124709498
>Darren
>Official streamer can't handle cavalry armies
What a shitter
>>124709516
>eat Dwarf
so what?
dwarfs are subhuman to be honest
>>124709498
What did he mean by this?
why did CA hire Darren to embarras himself
>>124707575
To be fair, I guess you could argue that Goblins are a form of very squishy armour for the spider.
>>124708448
Lore of death spell that slowly and randomly moves around the battlefield, anything that touches it takes an initiative test and dies if it fails it.An Initiative test is a roll of a d6 and if the result is lower than your Initiative you pass (automatic failure on a 6 though), high elves for example all tote an initiative 6+ while zombies have like initiative of 1, orcs have something like 3. As a stat its a sort of combo of physical agility and quickness of thinkingIt's a pretty beastly aoe nuke on big dumbass armies like orcs and undead.
Given TW doesn't have a stat really comparable to Initiative I'm curious as to how it'll work desu.
Web spiders:bros that pretty much never leave their web, do nothing but eat flies and mosquitoes that harm you, and are actually a real benefit to have one near your house because theyre like a first line of defense against disease.
Creepy crawlers aka demon spawns: sleep with you under the covers, crawl around your body, live in your mattress, bite you, hate you, and want to eat your soul.
There is a difference. Spiderbros are our friends, creepy crawlers crawl straight out of hell and need to be exterminated
>>124709167
>shit dying empire outlasts almost every other playable faction
>let's lose my faction leader in turn 2
What did he mean by this?
>>124709634
>dwarfs are subhuman to be honest
Goblin please leave
>>124710136
manlet please go
>>124709208
well whatever fell under the aoe would be destroyed yeah.
Its infamously bad for ogre kingdoms who have very few units and purple sun can instakill half the value of the army in one turn.
>>124710246
My ancestors built these tunnels! Greenskins out now!!!!
>>124709726
Arachnaroks have natural armor almost as good as dragon scales. One of those fuckers would slaughter a pack of Mumakils.
Well Darren seems a lot more upbeat today at least. Yesterday he was depression tier.
Will he ever achieve the upbeat attitude of Gingercunt?
>>124710528
Probably wasn't happy yesterday because he had to deal with that neckbeard. That neckbeard made me stop watching the Asturias stream even though I want to play their faction first.
Jesus christ this fucking chat.
This is why I didn't want a slavic faction, here's all the balkan nationalists out of the woodwork
S A K E
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K
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>>124710679
>I don't want x because of twitch chat
retarded
What's the Republic agent in FotS?
TURKS ARE X
SERBS ARE X
BULGARS ARE X
KOSOVO IS X
Fuck off from my series balkan scum
>>124710903
They don't have one, enjoy.
>>124711110
Playing Republic truly is suffering, isn't it?
What's their unique cavalry?
>>124711059
>>124710679
Why would you read twitch chat?
Are you stupid?
>>124711426
fuck off
>>124711165
It's meant to be difficult because the rest of the game is a cakewalk even on legendary.
>>124711426
I think child soldiers are a pretty modern thing
>>124711426
>Darren lost his general
>let's lose my faction leader in turn 2
>let's lose my new general in turn 4
What did he mean by this?
>>124711426
>Playing fallout 4
The fire rises brothers
Why is there no cat race in warhammer? The fucking rats get a race but glorious felines go unrecognized? 0/10 fantasy would not pray to false idols. Im tired of us cats getting ignored.
>>124708328
I tell you what I'm so hyped to see the Lore of Metal in Action.
Who else is going to be playing Gelt here?After Louen Leoncoeur of course. Will be really cool to field large armies of rebels supported by mages.
>THE FIRE RISES
BANEPOSTING IN TOTAL WAR ARE YOU SERIOUS
>>124711649
Because it's not made by japs who can't do fantasy
>General Slava
Meloncat you here
>>124711669
have you not played attila? that was already in there and I think there's another one in the barbar naval traditions.
>>124711649
There is. But they are not living in the Old World. There are animu fox people and tengu too. But again far from the Old World.
That was an impressively shitty battle
>>124711942
he made the fire rise
>darren and mitch
>>124711970
Its my OTP
>>124711165
Republican Guard Cavalry, which has nothing to distinguish it over regular Sabre Cavalry unless you're looking to RP.
>>124711657
If he can literally turn units of enemy soldiers into golden statues, then you can bet your sweet ass I'll play him
>>124711969
you're a dead general
>>124712632
they expect one of us to charge in the spears
>>124712728
have we started the shield wall?
Perfect fots army composition
3 armstrongs
2 gatling guns
3 marines
2 skirms
2-4 cav
Thats all you need really. Everything else is useless expense, if you kite right and use the artillery well and make a couple good charges, youll beat any army.
The other slots are filled with line depending on how good you are. Efficient armies are not 20/20 in this game, 14-15 armies are cost effective and deadily with the right comp. Spend your money on artillery, not more line. Learn to use the line you have, the enemy army narroes into your arty anyway, really dont need that much length or coverage
Do we have any info on the two Warhammer expansions? The first one will probably expand the map to the west and add elves and lizardmen, but what about the second one?
>>124712956
The second one is just to make you waste your money
>>124712728
he didn't strategize so good! who wants to try next
>>124712956
Go to desert and add tomb kings or some shit? or its going to be first and lizardman's second
Well, it was a heroic effort.
>1200 casualties from arrow towers
I'm also reconsidering my decision to go Republic. Everyone's just going to start buttfucking me, aren't they?
>>124711649
There's apparently cat beastmen east of the World's Edge mountains.
This stream is so awkward
>>124712956
The second one fucks your mom, steals your wallet and punches you in the shoulder for not having enough DLC to appease the jewish gods at CA
>>124712956
i doubt ther will be manp expansions, most likely campain packs. maybe a campain for the Dark elf invasions of Ulthuan
>>124713230
they are based on tigers
Tell me about Abu Kariba. Why does he wear the mask?
>>124713328
We already know that they will add new regions.
shut the fuck up darren
>>124713401
War masks are sexy.
I would totally fuck in that
>>124713417
oh, must have missed that
>>124713401
Because he's actually a woman and doesn't want anyone to find out
>>124713328
They already confirmed adding new regions
>>124713219
Make your economy independent from trade income and build police stations everywhere so you can upgrade them to republic influence buildings when you go republic. Also get those influence techs.
>>124713328
>i doubt ther will be manp expansions
anon wtf is wrong with you? From the beginning they said they would make two expansions which would expand the map
>>124713328
>i doubt ther will be manp expansions
Two expansions that expand the campaign map have already been confirmed.
what the fuck is the matter with this retard
>>124713794
which retard?
>>124713794
He's Irish
>>124713543
This too.
Fots is an efficiency game. Make due with small, elite forces and let them upgrade into monsters. Focus most of your money on your economy. Players often recruit more than they need, really slows down your economic expansion. Trade income can blind you to the weaknesses in your infrastructure. Playing solid defense usually means the nation youre at war with is probably losing somewhere else.
>mfw I got this pro-imperial army that was at war with my enemy to take this castle for me
does this count as AI abuse
>>124710425
Well yeah I'm not arguing against that, I meant other than their exoskeleton. arachnaroks are pretty sick desu
>>124712610
That's mentioned in his bio, so I don't see why he wouldn't.
>>124714006
Legend does it all the time, and then he teamkills the ally general on top of it
People praise him for it, you should be ok
>>124714038
The really sick things will be high elf dragons and greater demons. These things will be able to solo armies.
>>124714113
I wonder if they'll implement that on the battle map though or if they'll be lazy and just do something like "you get money after every battle because mr gelt turned their corpses into gold
>>124714275
Legend is full on autistic though
>>124714338
All the magic we've seen have unique effects (even though the curse of da bad moon uses the same assets as the comet of cassandora).
>>124714275
>LegendofAutism
goddamn I'm rich as balls
what do I even build
where's the fucking accuracy province so I can make my recruitment center
>>124714390
Anyone that talks to themselves for hours while playing video games is autistic. The guy literally gives vocal orders as he moves his units around and shouts at them to kill when they fight. Shits mad autistic sure, but autists have always ruled total war
>>124714275
>all the time
he's nowhere near as bad as Volound
>>124714617
I really dislike the whole "you don't know the map" thing sometimes, like in fucking 19th century Japan
>>124714617
There is a map setting that shows you where specialty resources are.
Buy police stations and farms. Dont just recruit a bunch of guys, remember: small, effective forces.
>>124714329
Pretty much. As well as Blood Dragon High Lords. A skilled Blood Dragon (relative to other Blood Dragons; they're all skilled in combat) can slay upwards of some thousand men. Even the weakest of Vampires (like the nosferatu-looking motherfuckers who wield magic) can kill several dozens of men in melee combat.
>>124714329
Also,
fuck chinese cartoons
why the fuck do the AI only sack shit in the stream?
>>124714938
too bad your anime bullshit won't be in the game ;)
>>124715052
Hello Ettan112
>>124714872
Oh and i almost forgot
The railroad is the balls. Invest early, conquer with it in mind. The AI is shit at building railroads, too busy spamming shit units. Pave the way for civilization, shoot your tiny elite forces where you need them and revel in your superiority
>>124715145
completely off
haven't even logged in because I'm permabanned on their twitch stream
>6 CA teams
>tfw the enemy has naval fire support and a wooden cannon
>>124715202
don't those require some high end tech
>>124715404
Yeah and the next historical title will be pretty close to Warhammer
>>124715551
Probably like in 2017 i think
and it's going to beMedieval 3
>"warhammer will be a trilogy"
i just want a new medieval
>>124708680
what anime?
>>124715551
A 30 years war of TW wouldn't be too bad.
>>124715447
Tech is the name of the game bby. Shoot for artillery and railroads. Works hand in hand. Artillery is OP, railroads are OP, put two and two together and know what to work towards
>>124715551
>mfw Medieval III that takes the combining expansions idea for Europe, the Middle East, and China
Assuming CA doesn't completely fuck up implementing it for Warhammer anyway.
>>124715678
Different teams my man
>>124715103
But it will.
>>124715447
light infantry is for fagets
>>124715678
nigga ur dumb as fuck
>>124715678
If you think next 3 total war going to be warhammer only you're wrong
>>124715785
>China
anime can fuck off
Also it wouldn't make much sense since the interaction between Europe and weeb land was minimal
>>124709191
Literally exactly what i'm doing now. Aizu republic.
Aizu is actually pretty great for going republic. Castles everywhere that are easily defended. Railway connecting most provinces, Taking everything north ensures you have all the unit training buildings you need and good economy. Its just a matter of knowing when to spark realm divide.
I just have to fight off a absolutely beastly Nagaoka that has taken over the entirety of central japan, as well as take the fight to the dirty imperialist.
>>124715893
Its actually pretty good. Say you have a hill to work with. Arty on top, lights in the middle, line in front. The extended range means they both fire together and support each other. Overlap like this and youll find small forces in the right position will kill thousands
What the fuck is this.
>>124716161
I personally don't care for Chinadespite being Chinesebut it'd satisfy just about everyone except mega-autists. And it would make sense for the Middle East/Central Asia because presumably a lot of it will revolve around Mongols.
>>124716323
A fully fleshed out version of Broken Crescent would be fucking GOAT.
>>124716476
Exactly what I was getting at, Hopefully CA isn't averse to doing the whole Attila doom and gloom thing again with Genghis.
>>124715867
thanks anon, didnt know CA were big enough for multiple teams
>>124715958
>>124716117
cancer
>>124716283
a big reference
>>124716667
>thanks anon, didnt know CA were big enough for multiple teams
Are you fucking stupid?
lmao
Do you think the Total War team made Alien Isolation? Do you think the Total War team is working on Warhammer and Halo Wars 2 right now?
top kek my man
>>124716476
Its prett much insanity that there hasnt been a Mongol: total war or Genghis: Total Waror Khan:Total war or Golden Horde: Total War idk there are a lot of good names.
Mongols are badass 10/10 would pay tax and send gift caravans
>>124716783
Warhammer is basically a reskin of Halo Wars
>>124716807
Well there was Mongol Invasion for Shogun 1 but that was on the edge of their periphery anyway.
>>124716283
Thats a big fleet
Who are you guys playing first in AoC?
I'm playing either Cordoba or the Avars.
>>124716667
Instead of calling other people cancer you better make some research they talk about different teams for the whole year now
>>124716878
I completely forgot CA is making Halo wars
>>124716878
>different universe
>different tech level
>pre-dates halo by many years.
>>124717005
If I ram your ship, would it sink?
>>124717020
Cordoba or Westphalia, possibly Mercia
>>124717053
I'm not sure if this is bait or you are really stupid
>>124716783
>Do you think the Total War team made Alien Isolation?
not a fan of shooters
>Do you think the Total War team is working on Warhammer and Halo Wars 2 right now?
i dont have an xbox
i'm so dumb, glad you showed me lol :^)
>>124716117
Warhammer is a trilogy, it's already confirmed.
Why does this happen, guys?
>>124717152
>shooters
Not even him but you're not exactly helping your case here.
>>124717152
>i'm so dumb
You really are.
>>124717153
We already know that but they not going to release 3 warhammer in row
>>124716783
>Do you think the Total War team made Alien Isolation? Do you think the Total War team is working on Warhammer and Halo Wars 2 right now?
Yes they do both.
>>124717153
There's multiple teams, please try to think
>>124717296
They easily could. They have multiple teams.The Warhammer team is massive since it has a lot of involvement from GW, so if the history team doesn't finish quick enough, we could easily get 3 warhammer games in a row.
>>124717080
It would be extremelyvandalistic
>>124717464
>if the history team doesn't finish quick enough, we could easily get 3 warhammer games in a row
That's not how video games work.
>>124717240
>>124717289
I only really play grand strategy and the odd crpg, s- sorry lads
>>124717609
four yew
>half a year until Warhammer is out
>and then months until it's playable
>>124717816
That's no excuse for being uninformed, stupid, and lacking the ability to apply basic logic.
>>124717816
I hope you not talking about garbage unhistorical shit like paradox games
>>124717158
Hope you learned a valuable fucking lesson about quality over quantity, anonkun
>>124717898
anime can fuck off
>>124717967
I'm not going to tell you you are wrong, but we are playing Total War
>>124717158
This is how battles against elves will look like.
>>124718401
That shit will be so gay but I just can't help myself, I just really really enjoy small elite forces versus huge, shitty ones
>>124662519
>Anglo Roman Empire
What the fuck is wrong with you? The Angles were still in Denmark.
>>124717957
why so mad anon?i don't really care tbqhgoing to go play some more stainless steel
>>124718482
Can't wait to crusade Badlands.
>>124718892
looks pretty gay
>>124719007
Ebin meme dude.
Revy Infantry with superior charge, I'm quaking in my boots.>tfw playing FotS instead of studying for my final or writing my essay
>>124719308
You're making me want to replay it as well, but Shogun 2 is not even installed, fuck
>>124719212
I hate elves so much.
>>124717898
>months until its playable
honestly enjoy playing games from launch bugs are amusing as fuck and its great just to have been there when the shitstorms break out. Rome 2 was entertaining as fuck after giving up on a serious campaign.
They are not planning any naval combat for Warhammer right?
I guess that means no elf continent.
>>124719308
Fucking finally.time to go do homework I suppose
>>124720953
I hope to god you mean homework as in university.
>>124721196
Well, yeah.Anyone have anything interesting to say about illegal immigration?
>>124721196
yeahaha
>>124720671
They are probably gonna add it later, dont think it Ulthuan and not Dark elf canada would work without ship combat.
>>124721303
>Anyone have anything interesting to say about illegal immigration?
build a wall
>>124721303
End of empires.
>>124716620
Will Ethiopia be playable in that mod? I got a new. A need to be AKSUM reborn.
>>124721303
they have to go back
>>124721303
Ex-immigrant from Poland here.
I was working in France for 10 eurobucks/hour on building sites.
Immislimes come.
They do the same for 5/hour
im back to Poland ;_;
>>124721303
They should be allowed in to build kingdoms.
>>124717020
Franks or Asturias.
>>124721556
But why?
>>124721616
When you got fired, did you hold your head in your hands and say "o kurwa"?
>I got a Spicy Italian footlong
>Right, but what'd you get at Subway?
AAAAAAW SHIT WHERE YOU AT? WHERE YOU AT?
>>124721616
Should have went for that plumbing degree.
>>124721303
Constant illegal immigration kills the WRE in Attila.
Constant illegal immigration will kill the Western World.
We need to build a wall. They have to go back.
>>124721545
No because3.0 will never be done.Makuria is playable in the last release though.
>>124721616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QjcGgLBjQ
>>124721718
I did when I heard how low pay they agree to
>>124721787I have engineer title in CS and mayors in economybut I did it in Poland, so nobody in the west care about my papers
>>124721718
they're bringing drugs
>>124722021
>I have engineer title in CS and mayors in economy but I did it in Poland, so nobody in the west care about my papers
my man it's 2015, you can get all that shit approved if you want to
>>124721813
Who pumped for Age of Trump?
>nationalism will no longer be haram
>they will have to go back
>BLM will be purged in a single night of horrific violence
>economy will no longer be controlled by free trade keks that want us to send all our resources to India and China
>>124722021
You could get a job here at Deutschland, always a need for engineers.
>>124721813
>>124722101
anyone got anything positive to say
something moral, for example
>>124722258
yup, going there in January
>>124722273
fuck off moral Orel
>>124722021
I've been hearing Poland is going to be the next big thing when Western Europe finally keels over. Why not stay there and wait it out?
>>124722273
Some of them are escaping bad lives and bringing good skills that we could use, and that some immigrants (legal immigrants, that is) made the Western World great. Like Tesla.
But most of them are not like Tesla. They are criminals, and drug dealers, and rapists. They have to go back.
>>124722273
Morals really don't have anything to do with the issue
It's amoral to break the law and sneak into a country to steal income, export your tax-free income back to your family in the Islamic State
>>124722373
better money on the west, duh
in 3 months I earn more than in a year here
>>124722483
>They are criminals, and drug dealers, and rapists.
>literally every illegal immigrant is violent
pls no memeing anon
>>124722501
>Morals really don't have anything to do with the issue
Why not? Can you actually blame somebody for fleeing a war-torn country and trying to make a living for themselves?I'm talking about Mexico
>>124722021
>but I did it in Poland, so nobody in the west care about my papers
>mfw my nigerian cab driver has a PhD in Astrophysics
>>124722602
isn't your cost of living higher though?
>It'll be years before we can finally solve the warmblood problem.
>>124722273
The rejection of a family or someone who is genuinely able to give some kind of benefit for the nation would be absurd to stop and inhuman. Basically play on the brain drain of those fleeing and family card.
>>124722602
Wouldn't it be better to build connections and resources in a country that will become a minor power in a decade rather than one that will become an emirate in half a decade?
>>124722706
Depends how you look at it. Looking at the raw costs sure. But looking at how much you can pay for with 1 hour work in the west and in the Poland, its much better there. Also, you can save better money. If I would work around 10 more years, I should be able to go back home and live on a reasonable level until I will die from old age
>>124722830
Personally I dont believe in it. Our politicians are all retarded and corrupted as fuck
>>124723135
Are they retarded and corrupt enough to destroy your tech growth? That's really your strength that will make you stronger.
gnight /twg/
>>124723556
*kisses on strategy* good night my little understander :3
>>124723552
Ues. Thats why all our good scientist migrate as fast as its possible. They have no future here, because our laws are constructed in such a way, that any invention you would create, belongs to the country and not you
>>124723793
That's fucked up, familia. Does your far-right want to amend that or are they only focused on immigration?
>>124722760
>someone who is genuinely able to give some kind of benefit for the nation
That's not illegal immigrants though, they don't even pay taxes, send money out of the country instead of stimulating the local economy and take jobs in place of the local population
>>124724090
they arent really far-right. If yuo would check their program, they are quite socialists.
>increasing minimum wage
>increasing taxes for companies
>increasing social money for the faggots that dont work
>>124724120
you're arguing with a phantom m8, it'll always slip through your fingers with platitudes about muh better life, muh benefit the nation
>Empire
>Dwarves
>Orcs
>Vampires
Except for vamps they are all boring as shit.
This game is going to be crap until a lot of DLC factions drop.
>>124724594
Thanks for your input!
>>124724334
That's pretty depressing if no one wants to legislate against that type of corruption.
>>124724594
Is it true that factions are only allowed to capture cities from specific factions?
Because thats pretty lazy. Where's the roleplay, the choice? The diversity?
>>124724705
This isn't Total War's official forum, cakeboy.
>>124719308
nigga I failed to finish my degree because of shit like this. However I have my own FotS campaign to play now.
>>124724773
and thats why its better to migrate. Ok, hope i helped you a bit with your homework, time to go for now. good night /twg/
>>124724334
When did people suddendly forget that the traditional meaning of far right DOES include welfare and was built on the back of worker's unions as an alternative to socialist thought?
I know people who go "hurr durr national SOCIALIST party checkmate red scum Hitler was literally a commie" are fucking retarded, but despite the many differences between fascist/nazi thought and socialist/communist thought on most issues they DO have shit in common, and it's no wonder that both appealed greatly to the poorest, most vulnerable in their societies (although fascism also appealed to other classes). I mean fuck, Mussolini's Italy was crazy about worker's unions and Hitler's most popular policy was based on public works and soup kitchens.
>>124725031
I love you, kurwa
>>124724773
>increasing minimum wage and taxes for corporations is corruption
>>124725031
that wasn't even me m8
>>124724784
>lazy
It's actually due to lore.
Dwarfs are highly conservative and traditionalist, they were born in the mountains, and will remain there, they refuse to take the flimsy cities of man.
Orcs don't build, they encamp and pillage and destroy, the only reason they can take Dwarf settlements is because they live in caves, and Orcs like living in caves
Humans, have no desire to live in caves, not to mention they would be very difficult to maintain and settle due to a lack of land for farming.
Vamps will likely stick with human settlements, since they often maintain human cities since humans are their source of food.
>>124725294
That's fascism, I said far-right because, right now, the far-right all over Europe is focused on reform. There's a lot of wiggle room for all kinds of reform in this political landscape.
>>124725439
Yes, social freedom without economic freedom is often corrupt
>>124724784
Orks don't have cities, they have shacks in the middle of nowhere in the badlands, it could be done with some dwarf settlements but you can write it off as dwarven settlements being full of tunnels and shit
>>124719781
Warhammer elves are cool though, they're proper grimdark like blud.,
>>124725790
Greenskins do take cities. Most of their major settlements are former dwarf fortresses taken after dwarf armies were decimated in the great war with elves.
>>124725979
>dwarf settlements
That's the points, the Greenskins sack and destroy cities, but they can't just break down mountains. A human city will be absolutely destroyed, but a dwarven one will remain what it is; a giant cave, which the orcs like.
>>124725845
WH elves are not a bunch of gay clones like LotR elves.
There are 10 High elf kingdoms and they are all pretty different. And then wood elves and dark elves are even more different.
>>124725845
Yeah, normally I hate elves, but Warhammer ones are pretty rad. High elves have a bit of a graeco-roman vibe going on.
>>124726435
Wood Elf DLC a few months after the release of the first game right?
I can see Bretonnia, Wood Elves and Skaven being the main race DLC's for that game. Not sure what DLC races you could get for a Western expansion, seeing as all of the main races would be covered by the first four.
>>124726435
Ellyrion masterrace.
>>124727369
I think one of those replies was meant for >>124727173, but I can't work out which.
Just assume I did it right.
>>124727369
Wood Elves are most likely going to be the first DLC after Chaos. I hope they get Ariel.
>>124727717
Wood elves are alright
High/Dark elves are full on unredeemable faggot shit though
G-Guys what about Kislev? ;_;
>>124727820
Kislev is a faction I hope they don't include.
I have nothing against Slavs and like medieval Slav armor, but Kislev is incredibly lazy and boring.
All their units look like unimaginative garbage, I don't like any of the designs.
>muh bears and hussars XD
ebin!
>>124727369
I'm more of a based Chrace kinda guy.
>>124728036
Which is why it and Bretonia will be FLC. They require the least amount of work since they are just humans.
>>124728098
looks gay, their helmets look incredibly stupid lmao
the dinosaur is cool though
>>124726435
I still get a kick out of the idea that Elves are from Greenland and Dark Elves live in Canada
>>124728164
I think Bretionia is kind of fun though, it's medieval times but really stupid.
All the peasants are inbred retards and every single knight is Lancelot, I think that's fun.
Also the knights look nice, bear cavalry just looks stupid.
>>124728098
Based lions kicking reptile ass
I like those guys
>>124727369
>>124727173
>>124726435
>>124728098
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-sundering-rise-of-the-witch-king
Have fun friendsIt's also got Tomb Kings and Skaven factions.
>>124728230
Its pretty funny considering dark elves are like polar opposites to us
>>124728449
>he doesn't like lizard Tau
What's a good starting Empire faction in Call of Warhammer?
>>124728230
"it's actually earth lmao" is one of the parts of warhammer lore i dislike
>>124727790
All Warhammer elf factions are great.
>>124728036
But Bears and Hussars are cool m8 and cossacks and Hussites and Ice magic. Although as a Slav i migh be biased with my impossoble to achieve pn-slavi dream.
can you faggots fuck off to /tg/
>>124728684
They really aren't.
>>124728036
They are far more interesting than Empire.
>>124728446
It doesn't matter if it's fun, it's cheaper to make than other races, so they're likely to be FLC
>>124728784
pan-slavic*
Who /hellenes/ here?
>>124728640
I see your point, but my thought is that you'd constantly be bombarded with logical inconsistencies if you transplanted Earth cultures onto a non-Earth geography. Why would not-Italians be like Italians if there is no not-Spain, not-Greece, not-Europe, and not-Africa to surround them? So much of culture comes from interactions that it's difficult to rationalize these things unless you go for fictional cultures that mix traits or an Earth-like planet.
>>124728797
dude, like it or not talking about Warhammer is total war related.
Why is this general so shit?
Are the TWG forums any better?
>>124729057
>Marty will never join your Sacred Band
>>124728610
The best reptiles don't take shit from edge elves.
Pic related.
>>124729194
>Why is this general so shit?
BECAUSE WARHAMMER FAGS RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>124729209
>tfw never ever.
>tfw I can't write to save my life
why is it so fucking hard
>>124729213
>tfw they don't sell jungle swarms anymore.
>>124729487
because you're fucking stupid
>>124729194
Assuming you meant TWC, no. They have mods though.
>>124662519
voting for eastern northern to be changed into Daco-Geto-Thracic Roman Empire.
>>124729383
C-can you join my Sacred Band?
>>124728631
Reikland or Wissenland. Defintely not Middenland (Fuck all gunpowder units).
>>124729213
>be elf
>go to jungle
>fight lizards
>they're old as shit and mindslaves
>get hentaid to death
>look down at ground before the tentacles crush me
>fucking lizards lmaoing all the way to the bank
>dwarfs thanks the lizards
>>124729607
>According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class. It was composed of 150 male couples, each pair consisting of an older erastĆŖs (į¼ĻĪ±ĻĻĪ®Ļ, "lover") and a younger erĆ“menos (į¼ĻĻĪ¼ĪµĪ½ĪæĻ, "beloved"). Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life"; while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love". The origin of the "sacred" appellation of the Sacred Band is unexplained by Dinarchus and other historians. But Plutarch claims that it was due to an exchange of sacred vows between lover and beloved at the shrine of Iolaus (one of the lovers of Hercules) at Thebes. He also tangentially mentions Plato's characterization of the lover as a "friend inspired of God".
lewdYeah why not :P
>>124729835What statue do you want to exchange sacred vows at? :3c
>>124730124I can't think of a statue.Is there a statue of AbÅ« SulaymÄn KhÄlid ibn al-WalÄ«d ibn al-MughÄ«rah al-MakhzÅ«mÄ« somewhere?
>>124708937
You I've never actually played Nagaoka, since my Tsu campaign has gone to shit I might try it.
>>124729835
>tfw no erastĆŖs
>>124730534If you keep talking like that I'll have to give you a lot of stern discipline as we train~
>>124730534
He has a tomb somewhere, doesn't he?
>>124730794Ų§ŁŁŁŲ§Ų± Ų°ŲØŲ ŲØŲ§Ų³Ł Ų§ŁŲ“Ų°ŁŲ° Ų§ŁŲ¬ŁŲ³Ł
>>124695507
For fucks sake, do you even know what the nobility was? Do you even fucking feudalism?
Long story short, the nobility was the fucking maffia. When the Roman Empire fell, they more or less went up to farmers with their warriors and told them "those are some nice crops you have there. It'd be a shame if someone were to... burn them". Like the maffia, it also had a strict hierarchy based on how many faggots you could gather to kick another faggots teeth in.
Fighting eachother to the death and keepin trick-ass serfs in line was literally all the nobility did. Hence why they were called the warrior class (as opposed to the working class (peasants) and the learning class (monks and priests)). Knights were literally raised and educated in the art of war since childhood.
Most nobles weren't brilliant and military academies weren't invented, but they weren't fucking retards either. They were intelligent people with an understanding of how strategy worked. Just fucking google some famous medieval battles and you'll see that medieval leaders didn't just zerg rush at eachother. If such a zerg rush happened it was either due to bad communication or the culture consisting of Germanic idiots (I'm looking at you, Anglo-Saxons!).
>>124717158
Quality > Quantity.
Low morale units will fuck you up.
>>124730982I can already tell you'll be very sassy and exciting. I can be very loving too, so I'll kiss all your boo-boos, and many places that aren't boo-boos ;^)
alright can you hellenes be homosexual somewhere else
I mean goddamn
>>124731302
They can't help it.
>>124731207pls stop you're making me cream my lorica hamata.
>>124731046
>most nobles weren't retards
What about the French nobility throughout the 100 years war?
>>124731302
This.
Also, female characters when? I'll be mad if vamps don't get female lords.
>pay 8k for a non-aggression pact with the huns
>they declare war a turn later
ok
>>124731302
It's still better than Warhammer fags discussing elf lore that's not relevant to the game
>>124731741
Different sides of the same faggy coin.
>>124731670
If you're going to pay off the Huns pay them to go sack some barbars, it worked for a while for me.
>>124731670
Attila is but a humble merchant, trying to sell your people his wares
>>124731539Cute boys need to be teased; teased and loved alternatively. By the end, I want you to moan in my ear how much you love me.
>Finally we have a chance to have female characters that actually fit a TW game
>There ain't any
I mean, is CA dumb?
ugh fuck this essay I'm going to study history instead
>>124731942
Neferata will probs be the second VC lord desu.
>>124731942
I'm sure there will be female characters.
We didn't see them yet because races we saw so far don't send women to battle. And orcs don't have women at all.
>>124732028
Not for Karsteins. She probably will get into the game when they make Lahmias playable.
>>124731942
No they're brilliant
>femenists want to play ebin boyz'z gaymes
>make females DLC
>rub their hands when feminists toss money at them and call CA "great allies in the feminist movement"
>Warhammer: Total War
Orcs & Goblins
Dwarfs
Empire
Vampire Counts
Chaos
Special DLC: Brettonnia
>Warhammer: Total war 2: DLC boogaloo
Skaven
Tomb keks
Wood elfs
Chaos Dwarfs
ISIS (or Shrek Kingdoms)
Special DLC: Shrek Kingdoms ( Or ISIS)
>Warhammer: Total War 3: Return of the DLC
High Elfs
Dark elfs
Lizardmen
Special DLC: I'm sure they can squeeze some random ass faction in
>>124732441
That's definitely not how it's going to happen.
>>124732290
It's Vampire Counts, not just the Carsteins. It's a mix of every bloodline.
Who else would the LL be? If it's exclusive to Carstein's Mannfred is the only option.
>>124732441
The game are going to have free lc races and more than one dlc races. Guess again fuckboii.
>>124732441
ur dumb, lelfs will be second game
>>124732441
Wood elves before Bretonnia for sure. You need elves in a fantasy game.
>>124732441
>Skaven
>Tomb keks
>Wood elfs
>Chaos Dwarfs
>Ogre Kingdoms.
>In one standalone map expansion.
That's going to take a metric fuckton of bullshit to make happen.
/twg/, what's the best way to secure this man's loyalty?
He's my faction leader's bastard brother and he is not loyal enough to our cause.
I won't be able to reestablish the TRUE, pagan, Roman empire with people at my court who don't pull their weight.
>>124732528
Neferata is sitting in Silver Pinnacle manipulating half of the world. She never gave a fuck about Karsteins and their games.
And they can put Vlad, Isabella, Kemmler and a bunch of other VC heroes in game.
>>124732528
vlad, they have stated they don't care much for the "time"
>>124732893
kek his balls off
>>124732932
They don't give a fuck about the recent lore. And thank god for that. They will probably go towards Storm of Chaos and completely ignore everything End Times related.
>>124733012
Seems rather cruel but he's the one who got himself into this situation
Also I could kill two birds with one castration, his bastard bloodline would end and only my pure bloodline would remain
>>124732318
Fucking amazing
>>124733268
That's the way to think about it. You don't need rival bloodlines when reforming the True Pagan Roman Empire.
How does you empire look so far?
>>124732893
Eunuchs cannot be statesmen, Blindos cannot be warriors
>>124732906
>>124732932
They won't have Vlad, that's like making Magnus the Pious the LL alongside KF, completely different time period and the exact same gameplay.
>>124732893
fuck him in the ass
>>124733339
So far we own Magna Gracia and Africa
There's still some resistance to the true faith down in Carthage, but after murdering an event-priest Latin Christianity is on the decline
Right now I'm building siege engines to take back Rome, and I want to build up an invasion force to conquer Africa up to the Iberian Peninsula
ERE is in shambles, Greece is ruled by our friends in Macedonia.
Right now I'm content with them playing empire, that way I don't have to worry about invasions from the East. Sooner or later I will have to stab them in the back though
When my economy gets better I will further build up my fleet and gain naval control of the Mediterranean via auto-resolve
>>124733452
Thanks for the info anon, but he has already lost his genitals
It's better this way, he's much more loyal now.
>>124732441
Skaven are on the old world map tho so they going to make them a dlc for the first game most likely
>>124731638
Considering they actually fucking won the war, I'd say they did pretty well.
Where do you idiots get your education from, internet memes?
>>124734340
American public education.
>>124734340
muh hastings
dum knights charge longbowmen
muh archer spam
>>124734192
A shame you don't own Roma itself, but that will come in time. Also a shame that you cannot move your capital to Roma. A True Pagan Roman Empire needs to have the Emperor sitting in Roma. Old Roman Emperors moved the capital from Roma, and now they suffer. Coincidence?
What Warhammer really needs is hero editor.
>>124734604
>hastings
Please tell me this is a troll.
>>124734661
Rome is tainted by Christianity
My capital is in the seat of Graeco-Roman Paganism itselfalso I'm not good enough to conquer Rome early on and I don't want to fuck about building a migrating army
Is it worth upgrading to a City in FotS?
>>124734960
In your rear territories yea for more economy buildings.
>>124734661
The inability to move capitals is especially frustrating as, say, the Tanukhids. There's a grand palace building or whatever that you can only build in your capital, and is in the city build chain. For whatever reason, the Tanukis decide their capital HAS to be Dumatha, a buttshit spit of sand tiny town in the ass of the desert. No grand palace for my Empire of the East.
>>124735349
Well, there are ways around it although it's dumb, you can avoid capturing Dumatha until you build the grand palace
>>124734918
Roma can be saved with true Paganism. Also the Italia province has a city in it that provides even more Greco-Roman Paganism.
>>124735697
Yeah, but by the time I noticed I was already moments away from a victory so I just ignored it.
Same issue comes up with Lakhmids and Hira (I wish there was a mechanic for changing what was the big city of a province- a burnt husk over the city of poetry is considered the province capital? Bah whatever), but Lakhmids are balls hard so I'll just do that save editing technique later when I survive the satrapy bukkake.
>>124736085
I remember that episode of Rome!
>>124734192
>Those Visigoths marching on Rome.
best feel.
>>124734661
>>124735349
You can move capitals with savegame editing. It's a one-line change.
>>124736314
It's Ostrogoths, actually.
>You can move capitals with savegame editing. It's a one-line change.
Right now I'm very conflicted, since I'm not far into my campaign I might start over to capture Rome as my capital.Can you tell me how? It might be cheating but I want me true Roman capital
HeirofAutism talk about Avars and other factions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8-E70QggsQ
if someone interesting
>>124736085
This scene didn't make any sense.
I mean wouldn't this be painful for the sodomiser as well? and did he get raging hard on for banging Ceasar?
>>124662519
Is Attila good? The steam reviews seem to be tearing it apart and I don't really trust CA after Rome 2
>>124737275
yes
>>124737275
Don't trust Steam reviews.
The rating went down after the free weekend, and the reviews went bad after the free weekend.
Attila is a good game and much better than Rome 2.
>>124737275
Free weekends
Paradox shills
Dumb people with shit pc
According to steam reviews Rome 2 is better
>>124737417
>The rating went down after the free weekend, and the reviews went bad after the free weekend.
Well I didn't actually mean to post that, but I guess I still got my point across
>>124736523
I'm talking about the visigoths outside Fiorentia.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474998322
Who should I play as /twg/?
>Chrace
>Cothique
>Saphery
>Eataine
>Yvresse
>Nagarythe
>Caledor
>Avelorn
>Ellyrion.
What do you guys think is the best pseudo-legionary unit in Attila.
I like the germanic spear masters because of their mega organisation and precursers and such, but is there anyone else similar?
>>124737275
pic related
>>124737275
I don't like how floaty the game play of Atilla and Rome 2 feel but without them we wouldn't have Warhammer and potentially more TWs with newer systems.
>>124738152
I just got cancer. Thanks anon.
>>124737949
EATAINE
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Lothern Sea Guard a best.
>>124737949
That one that's looks like japan flag with half moon
>>124738926
>stange
Been playing Shogun 2 a lot recently with a friend and really having a good time, looking for a new setting now though. Is Attila in a good spot right now? Was reading the pastebin and it said something about "minor faults", what are those?
>almost equal numbers
well this should be easy
>>124739367
Yeah Attila is good.
Minor faults? I guess (unless they have fixed it) the AI focuses on you too much ignoring others or that the Sassanids have no contenders (hopefully will change with the patch on the 10th)
>>124739374
Anon how do you not have cannons yet?
Anon.
Go for canons
Trust me, im a doctor
>>124739367
Attila is good, like Shogun 2 it's not perfect but I really like this game.
Minor faults include that it doesn't run well on lower-end PC's because it's not well optimized
Playing it after Shogun 2 I thought Attila was harder and more complicated, but I ended up really enjoying it.
During the winter sale it will be 66% off again, I feel like it's definitely worth it.
>>124739367
Best vanilla total war desu familia
Going to play third age for the first time
With submod should i use DAC or MOS?
>>124740614
If you just want something simple like gondor or whatever choose DaC, better optimization and loading times.
MoS is a bloated beast, takes forever to load but has all the detailed autism you could want.
>>124738152
What a gigantic faggot
>>124740614
DaC is IMO better. It is more balanced and closer to what "Total War: lotr" would look like. Mos on the otherhand has lot of unique scripts and flavor, but turn wheel takes about 5 mins to load unless you have you have PC from NASA.
>>124739374
the LOD makes the corpses look terrible
>>124739849
I only just conquered the accuracy province
>>124740614
MOS nigga
unless your PC is a toaster, the turn times aren't that long
just alt-tab and shitpost on /twg/ while it's loading
>>124739849
Going by the fact he's:
1. being sieged
2. has line infantry
He hasn't got a cannon range much less wooden cannons.
Which are actually good for sieges I've found as they arch up over the walls.
>>124738152
>put over 500 hours into the game
>hurr durr it's shit
I don't even
>>124739630
>>124739925
>>124739956
And have any of you tried arena yet? Or is that pretty shitty?
>>124740854
>>124741214
>>124741302
Well i guess i try DAC first thanks
ROMANS GET OUT
GET OUUUT
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>124741302
I got cannon now
>>124741310
Wooden cannons do the job of forcing the issue even if they dont get good kills. I wanna see some european guns soon from our republican-in-training, the line is a good start i suppose.
>>124741729
Once you get a taste of heavy firepower, youre just going to want more and more. Its like meth. Eventually everything else is just a personal artillery defense force.
>>124741423
I think Arena is still in beta as far as I know, I have not played it.
It's very different from normal Total Wars, I hesitate to call it a moba but it's somewhat like that, you control one squad of units lead by a hero character (e.g. Alexander, Caesar) and, together with your teammates (there's 3 or 4 of them I believe) that also each control one squad, try to fight the enemy
>Surrounded by enemy army
>outnumbered 3 to 1
>also worse in unit quality
>enemy starts putting all his armies in to one big force before attacking
>go around looking at the faces of my units
They will all die. I'm sorry.
>>124743215
Shouldn't that image have a filename?
Also you shouldn't be a gay, make all your units sit on a hill and take as many of the bastards with you as you can.
>Chaos gets 3 legendary lords
>and chaos dragons
Okay, how is this fair? You get 3 lords when everybody else has 2 and you also get a mount that's going to shit all over griffons, wyverns and zombie dragons.
>>124743990
hey, anime
fuck off!
>>124743990
Isn't it 24/7 attrition up in their lands aswell?
>>124732441
I was more thinking
1.
Empire
Dwarfs
Greenskins
Vampire Counts
Warriors of Chaos
FLC - Brettonnia
DLC - Wood Elves
2.
Skaven
High Elves
Dark Elves
Lizardmen
FLC - Beastmen or Norsca made playable
DLC - Human Kingdoms (Kislev, Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes
3.
Tomb Kings
Ogre Kingdoms
Chaos Dwarfs
Chaos Daemons
DLC - Araby
Who the fuck knows though. Thats probably a bit generous with the DLC, but hopefully factions will be mostly free and flavor units will be relegated to paid DLC.
>>124744413
Are there really so few Warhammer factions that they have to make Chaos Dwarfs a faction?
>>124744853
Chaos Dwarfs ARE a Warhammer faction.
>>124743990
Intentionally unfair, GW probably insisted the Chaos Wastes be impossible to truly conquer. The best way to make Chaos a legitimate threat and to feel the power of the DAAAARK GOWDS when you play as Chaos is to make them brutally overpowered. A little inspiration from RotDG :^)
>>124744413
What about Nippon Indus and other shit factions nobody cares?
>>124744853
Well the Empire has like 9 factions within it, Vampires have like 4 and Dwarves have like 10+? If each Karak is its own faction.
Orks and Gobos got shit tonnes of clans.
>>124744994
Did I say anything to the contrary?
>>124745060
They would need to expand the map too much.
>3.
>Tomb Kings
>2 years away
>>124745060
If there's an expansion with shit like that I won't buy it.
>>124745213
What about lizardman isn't they in "america" it's pretty far away too
Just installed Rome 2 again last night.
Couldn't bear myself to play more than 20 minutes. What a fucking shit game.
>>124745106
Vamps have 5 clans. Chaos Warriors and Daemons are split into 4 factions and that's not counting lesser warp gods. Elves have 3 factions.
They could have a shitton of armies if they wanted to.
>>124745381
you have no one but yourself to blame
>>124744413
You people dont really think Empire, Vampires, Dwarf and Orks are going to be one factions right? thats make no sense
>>124745361
Americas will get into the game anyways since it's a region with 3 major factions.
>>124745381
Should have got Attila
>>124745543
Race->hero like Culture->faction
>>124745543
Obviously. There will be packs with different legendary lords.
>>124745543
What are you trying to say? Only one of the factions in those races will be playable.
>>124745837
I hope not
>tfw shit at total war and kind of have to savescum sometimes
>>124745837
Nope. They will be selling character packs.
>>124746047
You'll still only be playing as one faction
>>124743215
>not having the image saved as ąÆµ.png
what the hell is wrong with you
>>124746120
It's like one culture. Most units will be the same but you will get few flavor units and different bonuses.
>>124746628
Do you have a source for that or is it just speculation?
>>124746835
I'm pretty sure he's right
I mean we got tons of shit gallic/greeks/horsefuckrs and other tribes in rome2 but only going to get 1 ork tribe here? i dont belive that
>>124745060
>And other shit factions nobody cares?
I think you answered your own question. In any case, there are too many challenges with geography and the fact that none of those factions have anything close to fleshed out armies, so CA would need to make them up from scratch.
>>124747104
Deep rather than wide
>>124747290
like your moms vagina
>>124747104
>slightly reskinned and different stats for each unit for each faction in rome2
>completely different units for each faction in WH
>>124746835
We definitely have confirmation that different legendary lords get different faction bonuses and quest lines. Nothing on unique units (yet) and no confirmation on different starting positions for different lords.
>>124746835
Look at Empire's unit list. No long rifles. Just 2 out of 8 collegiums. Guess why.
>>124747397
better than your mom's wide one
>>124747247
I hope we get some of those at least in Campaign packs
>>124747452
Most human nations would be Empire recolor with few new units. Same with orc tribes or vampire clans.
why wait for warhammer when i can just fucking kill myself
>>124747452
How is one orc tribe completely different from other? they can be reskinned too
>>124747642
Anime can fuck off.
This is literally the most boring trash faction in all of Warhammer
>>124747557
There will be DLC for sure, I just doubt if there will be any faction specific stuff like long rifles.
They already said that there are other Electors in the Empire you need to subjugate.
>>124747805
Think of races as cultures and each legendary lord as a faction. LL are going to play heavily in how we play each race.
The best thing that could happen to the game would be legendary lord creator.
>>124747901
That doesn't mean what you think it does
We already assumed from the get go that you would need to unite your faction
>>124748000
Why would you want them to waste time on factions that don't even have an army book?
>>124747247
A lot of people care about those factions actually. GW was just completely fucking retarded and did everything they could to kill the game.
>>124748153
CA could easily make their own for the game
>>124748091
No, jesus christ.
What a terrible idea
>>124748441
Estalia, Tilea and Kislev are pretty much confirmed. They are on the campaign map anyways so they will need to make their units.
>>124748091
Stop being retarded. Each LL has several quests tied to that character. Making the amount of quests to satisfy people who want to build their special snowflake is unreasonable.
>>124748441
They could probably slightly alter the S2 roster for Nippon 2bh
>>124748758
There still so much to do
>>124748441
Oh man if CA actually do what they've said and keep adding to this thing. This could be the most detailed and expansive Warhammer game ever.
Man I'm fucking hyped.
>>124748758
>so they will need to make their units.
They don't have their own units to put in the game, and I doubt GW would allow them to make it up.
They will have a barebones roster primarily consisting of empire troops.
At best you can hope for mods adding them in
>>124749169
>nippon
how unoriginal can you fucking be
>>124748441
Kislev and Chaos Dwarfs are the only factions out of those that have a remote chance.
>>124748441
They're going to be hard pressed to get in factions that have actual representation on the tabletop in three games, so don't count on it. Mods are your best bet, and without modding tools they're going to probably be limited to custom battles and mercs. Be happy that we'll likely get all the human kingdoms of the Old World (well, maybe...) and probably Araby.
>>124749518
They actually do. Dogs of War used to be an army. Kislev has some units too.
>>124750004
>Dogs of War used to be an army
They'll be mercenaries
so people are complaining that the army lists for TW Warhammer seems lackluster. what's your oppinion /twg/?
>>124749814
It was never a really army or anything. It was just there to fill out the world.
>>124750147
I don't have an opinion since I never bothered with anything Warhammer.
>>124750147
They are fine. Most of the people complaining are just whining about a unit that is barely used in the tabletop or doesn't have a real place in the game. Yet they want it because "muh special snowflake unit"
>>124749814
no shut up games workshop are untouchable masters of lore
>>124750294
well thanks for the (you) I suppose anon
>>124750359
one guy made a good point though. CA said that the reason they have so few factions is that they wanna go in depth with them and their armies. and this doesn't seem that in depth desu
>>124750147
Most of the missing units are just reskins with some exceptions. Each of the rosters shown so far has more variety than every faction in any previous game combined, so not sure why people are complaining.
Pretty obvious room left for DLC though.
>>124750569
I did it for (you).
>>124750569
>this doesn't seem that in depth desu
Each roster so far has more depth than every faction in any of the previous games combined.
>>124750569
What we've seen of the unit rosters isn't (I'm certain we'll get some unique units in the form of DLC and maybe AoR units) but the personalized quest lines for each lord, the unique tech trees for each faction, the unique gameplay mechanics for each race, the detail in all the building trees and models, all seem quite a bit more in depth than what we're used to.
>>124750569
hmm
it's almost as if they're lying pieces of shit
attila is somewhat good and you all suddenly forget rome 2
>>124750569
each of the races in WH has about as much going for it as entire cultures from previous games. Each roster also has a high variety in terms of skeletons and animations. You are use to the faction rosters being long since we upgrade units somewhere along the campaign and unique units rarely being that different from other factions, just reskins. Albeit there are a few reskings like two units being the same except for the weapon used. For the most part there is a far higher variety in WH than previous total war games.
Someone should tell ISIS that the west has been waging wars for the past 2500 years all over the world and we've kinda gotten good at it.
So if they wanna start some shit they should think twice
>>124751261
Someone should tell you to post on the correct board.
Just to clarify I have never played Warhammer so I don't know anything about the armies. I'm just asking here and reading what people are saying
>>124750734
>>124750887
A common complaint is the Empires knightly orders. people suspect that they will all be DLC. Personally I hope they'll be guilds like in Medieval 2
>>124750947
I was thinking the same. a lot of development time is probably going towrds the unique quests and such but I hope the unit selection doesn't suffer because of it
>>124750979
that's what I'm afraid of anon
>>124751064
fair enough. I just hope we get as much variety as possible before the dlc unit packs start coming out
>>124751261
>this kaffir thinks he can win
LEL
>>124751335
>A common complaint is the Empires knightly orders. people suspect that they will all be DLC. Personally I hope they'll be guilds like in Medieval 2
Yeah but the thing is those will mostly just be reskins of Reiksguard with some exceptions (black bears). modders will be able to add those easy, it's better that CA focus on adding units with unique skeletons/animations which modders can't add in.
>>124751329
I got confused for a minute, thought I was still on /pol/
>>124751529
>I was still
>>124751715
>he doesn't visit /pol/ regularly
>>124751913
Well he's sane, so yes, he doesn't.
>>124751529
>>124751913
leave and don't come back
>>124751512
while I do agree that it's important for CA to work on different skeleton models I odn't think we should have to wait for mods to fix it so to speak. (although that's pretty much what I'm doing)
>>124751913
Most people here are older than 14 so i guess not
>>124752112
fuck off
>>124752110
Well what I mean is I'm more pissed about the lack of Bright Wizards and Mortars then a dozen Reiksguard or Handgunner re-skins.
>>124751335
>A common complaint is the Empires knightly orders
That is the reiksguard, the other knightly orders would be just reskins. They are the epitome of the "muh special snowflake unit."
>>124752190
>>124752205
I actually visit /gsg/ more than I do /twg/
It's clearly the better general
>>124752340
>tfw no Knights Encarmine
>>124752340
>the other knightly orders would be just reskins
but anon you could say that about any game in the series desu. I still think it's important in M2 to have Templars, Hospitaliers and Teutonics for example. It adds to immersion (yes I'm serious) and helps roleplaying to an extent
>>124752321
yeah as I said I'm not familiar with WH armies but seems strange that mortars won't be in. wth mortars are pretty common in TW games for one
>>124752450
Go ahead and go back to /gsg/ then
I sure hope you don't come back
>>124752450
>It's clearly the better general
hey! That hurt
>>124752653
The reiksguard is the knightly order devoted to the Emperor and based in Reikland. They are the top of the list for representing the orders. They could either call it quits there and take the heat for not including all, or do a couple more and take the heat for not including all. There is something like 20 different knighlty orders in the lore, maybe about 10 of them that actually matter. As the other guy said, they might be AoR units. Otherwise it would just bloat the unit recruitment UI.
does TROM work for FotS
what does it change
>>124753638
>they might be AoR units
I'd be okay with that but I'd really prefer a guild system like in Medieval 2 or FOTS (with the foreign units) where you support a certain faction (order in this case) and get acess to their knights. That would be really cool
>>124752450
>It's clearly the better general
t. kojak
>>124752450
So do I lad, you're a fucking faggot though t. bh
Will the ERE AI finally have a chance to survive when the White Huns come out, or will the Sassykids still be the true power in the East.
>Apparently lots of people have been asking for dlc for charlemagne
>ca isnt going to make dlc for the dlc
>but maybe they will update it later on with extra stuff
>apparently most jewtuber ignored empires of sands despite the fact that CA considers it a great dlc
>But literally everyone has asked them for a reviewer code for charlemagne which has left them perplexed
This is what I got from today's stream
>>124756459
hopefully
my eyes are frying from staring at my computer screen too long
>>124756874
Empire of Sand was barely 1/5th the size of this DLC obviously people would be more excited for this one.
>>124756874
>Ignoring Empires of Sand
Why the fuck would you ignore the four best factions added to Attila?
>>124757240
you fucking casul
>>124756874
>>apparently most jewtuber ignored empires of sands despite the fact that CA considers it a great dlc
Where did you get that from?
I watched the stream too and didn't hear anything like that, but I probably just didn't pay attention
Anyways I saw a bunch of kikes play the DLC, but I don't follow anyone close enough to make a call on that
"Ignoring" is a bit harsh to put it, the Sandpeople is great. I don't really get why people would go ask for early access to culture packs too, Charlemagne is rather different from three new factions
The reason that people show so much interest in Charlemagne is probably because it's by far the biggest Attila DLC to date and it looks pretty great so far
>>124738926
Big difference between deliberately cutting content from a game so it can be released as DLC, and simply having DLC with almost entirely cosmetic and unnecessary aesthetic values, which all Paradox games have. I also find it funny that you hate how he reviewed Attila but he obviously liked Rome II so I doubt he's just a mindless hater.
>>124757293
probably for the same reason that people demand a bunch of irrelevant factions in AoC but just because of "muh X" or "Y PRIDE!" I've legit seen people angrily ask if CA is anti-slav because x or y irrelevant Slav faction isn't included.
>>124757702
I am anti-slav, which is why I buy CA games. I hope they continue to enforce a Germancentric viewpoint on the world.
>>124757673
oh no the paradox defense force has arrived
let's buy 400$ of DLC everyone, it sure is great to be a paradox shill
>>124757673
There is also a difference between some cosmetic DLC and locking an entire quarter of the map's cosmetic look behind the paywall. It would be like having the Sassanid using roman looking troops unless you pay for them.
>>124757673
Nice try parashill, nothing you can say can defend 230 euros of dlc, or the fact that there is dlc that is essential otherwise you are stuck with european factions, and if you want to get extra factions outside of european ones and you dont want to have mongols running around with french faces, knights and european banners you also have to buy those dlcs for the dlcs, each separately.
But nice try you fucking shill.
>>124757965
>>124758312
desu you shill harder than any paradox shill possibly could
>>124757965
pls buy stellaris
>>124758374
>I didn't get a (you)
why tho?
Ave, Senatores, I'm relatively new to /twg/ so I have an honest question; I've read a good amount of comments that talk about paradox shills to justify Atilla's backlash.
Could someone explain that, please?
>>124758484
(You)
>>124758621
Thank (you)
>>124758586
Combination of /gsg/ shitposting about it and a lot of the most vocal critics are paradox fags.
>>124758586
Attila's backlash is more to do with being sold as a stand-alone game when it should have been an expansion.
New thread when?
I'm going to sleep
>>124758586
retards that think the only people that could dislike CA are paracocks drones
>>124758586
Attila's backlash happened during the free week when it was bombared by people who didnt even bother to play the game, since just starting the download marked you as a "owner", until then it had a positive rating
creative assembly, please, I dont think rivers work like that
>>124758586
Shitposting between the generals. Can't really shitpost between /twg/ and /mbg/ because /mbg/ doesn't really do DLC and they kind of just leave people alone to talk about butter and other things.
>>124722483
>Some of them are bringing good skills that we could use
Oh piss right off with this meme.
If they had marketable skills and the papers to prove them then they could immigrate legally on the same terms as any non-western migrant.
They're coming here for charity, and even when they get it they're still fucking ingrates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td3VNr7ZJvs
>>124758824
Pointing out an obvious shill in the thread and the guy who wrote the review that has a lot of issues with double standards is wrong
k bud
>>124758586
Its CA shills favourite tactic to dismiss criticism
>>124759130
>If they had marketable skills and the papers to prove them then they could immigrate legally on the same terms as any non-western migrant.
yeah that's a load of shit
it's difficult as fuck to migrate to most western countries unless you have a job already lined up and a business or corporation willing to hire you
and even then, for certain visas, there are maximum quotas that are always full, at least in the case of the US
someone make a new thread
>>124759130
Listen man, sometimes it takes some Mexican cunt to really make my front yard look nice. Besides, you could have just read the rest of my post.
>>124758586
The game had a positive rating, and then it was part of a Total War free weekend. A bunch of the negative reviews with people that didn't even play it.
You also have negative reviews from idiots that demand all DLC be free even after they get 300+ hours of game time from Attila.
>>124758586
There is this meme that CA is worse than Hitler because of their DLC policies.
A lot of Attila reviews are negative because of DLC policies, written by people who happily play and buy Paradox DLC
It's not as much shills, it's more that a double standard is applied and CA can't ever make any DLC for any games without being kikes, while Paradox can sell to the same crowd and get away with pretty much everything
>>124722373
>when Western Europe finally keels over
Immigration is putting strain on western Europe but nothing that could bring close to eastern European or even American level.
>>124759832
Not to mention Paradox gs shit takes a fractions to make compared to Total War games. Total War DLC is actually excusable from the perspective.
>>124759469
>"If you don't have needed skills then it's hard to migrate"
Wooooooow!
What a fucking tragedy.
If they're not useful then they shouldn't be getting a free ride, I know for a fact that my country and several other European countries maintain lists of professions and educations that are in short supply and provides a fast-track through immigration if you can provide those skills.
If you don't have those skills then you're coming here for charity or to take away jobs from the native population.
>>124759539
Don't Americans have teenagers to perform that kind of bitch work?
>>124759832
>get away with pretty much everything
yeah man
literally nobody ever criticizes paradox :)
>>124760294
Teenagers work retail jobs or just don't do anything. We got to rely on the Mexicans.
thank you all for your responses
>>124758720
>>124758586
So this shit posting happened in /gsg/ own general?
I happen to only lurk (and occasionally [shit]post) in /twg/ as total war is the only franchise really follow and play regularly
>>124758734
I've read this complaint a lot, along with there's no significant difference between factions but I believe it isn't attila's fault but rome2-attila game design, as most faction's units looks like a copy paste
>>124758824
>>124759451
yeah, like if people couldn't have their own opinion, that being said
>I am enjoying R2 a lot so far
I'm not even using mods
>>124758923
suspicious indeed, but are you implying it was actually a coordinated attack by some organisation?
>>124759694
also, altough I understand your point, I believe that many R2's DLCs are blatant money grabbing, specially culture packs when they were in the game since the begining and only unlock its playability
>>124759832
yeah I've also seen the images comparing both games dlcs and it looks like EU has more. but then I've never played EU more than 1 minute, I simply didn'T understand its gameplay, it seemed so unintituive.
But then, Maybe EU's DLC are actually justified?
>>124759539
Do they not have professional gardeners or landscapers in the US?
>>124760821
Yes, but Mexicans are cheaper.
>>124760803
>along with there's no significant difference between factions
Attila has pretty good diversity IMO, especially with DLC adding Celts and Empires of the East. It's definitely better than other games like Shogun 2 which is praised despite having literally no diversity.
>>124760803
EU and CK2 both have a shit ton of DLC
Some of it gameplay expansions, most of those are 15, some 10 and I think there's one for 5 (talking about CK2)
The thing is that they also charge for character portraits, music, unit visuals, and so on.
That means I can go buy the mongol DLC for 15 bucks right now and nobody will look like a mongol, there won't be any horse archers, the music is still medieval European shenanigans unless I pay 10$ more.
>>124760803
>there's no significant difference between factions
That's not accurate.
Campaign wise playing as Migrator, Rome, Sassanids or barbarians is very different, compared to Shogun 2 the unit variety is great too.
>>124761043
excuse me I DIDN'T explain myself well, I haven't played attila, so my opiniĆ³n is based only in my R2 experience
>>124760631
Nice failure to have an understanding of history going back, at most, thirty years. Mexicans drove teenagers out of the market for simple jobs by being cheaper and harder-working. The "teenagers are all lazy bums, we need Mexicans" only exists because no one will hire teenagers anymore if they can get a Mexican. Mexicans only have a place in this country by driving out literal children, and idiots pretend they have a valuable place in society that must be cherished.
>>124758734
They're several games late for that, then.
>>124760803
>only unlock its playability
If that's a negative depends how you look at it.
On the one hand you have to pay to unlock the ability to play as the faction, nothing more.
On the other hand they patch in all the new DLC factions and units and you can fight them without paying anything, you only need to pay if you are dying to play as a faction yourself.
>>124760950
For good reason, I did a 5 year apprenticeship on professional gardening and consider myself barely adequate. Seeing amateur jobs causes me no small amount of irritation.
>>124761582
>cheaper
>hard-working
is a win/win for your economy
>>124761249
I wasn't stating my opinion about attila because I haven't played it yet, but that was what I've heard some people here and in steam have said
>>124761582
Nigga, you literally ignored the first part. Teenagers don't do yards. They might shovel snow, but they don't do yards. Most would rather work at a convenience store or a Wal-Mart instead of mowing lawns. So it's either pay Mexicans cheap, do it yourself (and you can insert a joke about lazy Americans here), or hire a company that will overcharge.
>>124761582
>>124761885
It appears you have the wrong board. Don't worry, let me help you with that.
>>>/pol/
>>124761885
Flooding the market with a cheaper alternative isn't necessarily good for the overall economy.
>>124761885
No, it isn't, because those people will not contribute nearly as much in their lifetime as the average White teenager. Even in an unlikely scenario where everyone at the Mexican company is legal, they will be barely skirting above the poverty line, if above it at all, and will barely spend their money. A White teenager will, mostly, be fairly successful and live a middle-class life where they actually do participate in the larger economy. It's a long-term investment. Without employing the White teenagers, you keep them looking for an easy first job that it is harder to get but they cannot move onto a real career until they do.
>>124762836
Nigga, you literally ignored the entire post. The whole "teenagers don't do hard work" meme is a product of Mexicans taking all the hard work. Teenagers did plenty of hard work when Mexicans were barely 2% of the population. My grandpa worked on a farm in the summer when he was 15. As Mexicans took all the jobs, teenagers started moving towards convenience jobs exclusively, and that will fade unless we elect Trump, too.
>>124743990
The other factions are getting more lords as DLC, they've already shown what the Orc DLC lord will be.
I do think it's bullshit that the Empire doesn't get The Imperial Dragon.
>>124737949
War of sundering mod?
Naggarythe is the only choice
>>124761885
>is a win/win for your economy
>Ensuring that children have no spending money and no work experience
>"Win/Win"
No matter how good Warhammer is gonna be, if it's as braindead easy as the last few TW games it's gonna suck regardless.
>>124764218
It's not going to be super-hard, these games literally cannot be until the AI becomes top-tier, but evidence suggests Chaos is pretty OP and will probably be a decent final boss. Skaven will double down on that, probably.
NEW THREAD PLEASE
>>124764528
I am making one, everyone else pls stop or I'll call the cops
New Thread
>>124765087
>>124765087
>>124765087
>>124743990
The other factions will have DLC lords obviously
>>124736523
I made a tutorial on basic save-editing on the TWC forums. Link:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/search.php?searchid=4658829
picrelated is a graphic from it, you could probably figure it out from this if you know your way around SaveParser.
The inability to change your capital normally is absolutely fucking unforgivable in Attila, FFS, the Western Roman Empire changed their fucking capital just a few years after 395 in real history.
Anyway, with Tanukhids, at least you can just avoid capturing Dumatha and it won't be a big loss. It's a natural location to leave a smoking ruin.
![800px-After_Chaos_Corruption[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/op6sDqt.png "800px-After Chaos Corruption[1]")
![790[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y1GOzTb.jpg "790[1]")
