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Primal Armor down >>124395174

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4 [Embed]
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>Chalice Dungeon Glyphs (Gems, Weapons, Runes, Etc) pls update!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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kos.
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Xth for freeing the Great Ones.
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>>124436526

still ringing, password pain right? you haven't beaten amelia yet have you?
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so by the time you reach NG+ you should have hit whatever level cap you're aiming for and have at least one fully upgraded weapon, right?
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Man I wish souls/bb games had a helmet as cool as the aaliyah head. That thing was the shit.
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>>124436617
Yeah ringing still. Not sure why it's taking so long.

And yes I have. I had to kill her to enter the DLC.
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>>124436623
unless you do loads of summons and only ever level up without buying other shit I doubt you'd get to level 85, if that.

>>124436719
well you can't summon then since you beat the area boss. goodluck fighting that rifle spear dick on your own lel
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>finally get beast down
>it's a puny 19.5%
What the fuck man, really?
I want off the korean ride.
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>>124436778
the weapon's right though, right?
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>>124436778
>well you can't summon then since you beat the area boss. goodluck fighting that rifle spear dick on your own lel
Oh fuck I accidentally responded to you in the previous thread. I'm the faggot asking for help with the well denizens, not anything in the base game. I meant to respond to the other person who said they'd join.
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>>124436887
yeah you can get a +10 by the time you get the mergos loft I think.
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Guys.

I need that webm.

You know the one.
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>>124436936
Was that you? I got summoned, but as a hoonter of hoonters
I thought they got rid of that for password matchups
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>Chikage splashes Blood when you swing it
>Bloodletter doesn't

why
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>>124436965
got ya covered
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>>124436936
yeah didn't you say you'd beaten amelia though? you can't summon after that.
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>>124437096
Yeah that was me. That shit fucks me all the time and never works when I actually want to be a hunter of hunters.
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>>124437136
oh god that shit is gold
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>>124437136
my sides
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>>124436650
I used it in almost every AC, either that or Lahire.
You have fantastic taste anon.
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>>124436965
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Looking for some help in the DLC.

I am right at the start, just need some kind Anon to guide me to the cave with the Hunter that has the Gatling Gun and help me kill him.

I'm level 37.

Will be near the Lamp with password bbg
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>>124437249
No, somewhere along the line of the previous thread's conversation we became confused about things. I was requesting that someone help me kill the large shark men in the DLC area, so obviously I'm well beyond Vicar Amelia.
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>>124437136
Jesus Christ.
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>>124437136
>these are the people that criticize DaS2
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My based saif, NightStyle, will personally send you to hell................. Rakuyo users................
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>>124437136
>Dark Souls 2 fans.webm
ftfy
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>>124437136
>that one guy that rolls off the bridge
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Does the saw spear keep the serration modifier against beasts even if it is made fire/bolt/arcane?
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>>124437781
Yes. A fire saw spear reduces Ailing Loran to ashes fairly quickly.
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>>124437136
fucking perfect
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>>124437979
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>>124436965
got u babe
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>>124437979
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So let me get this straight:
stamina curse increases the stamina consumption only of your weapon right?
then, if a swing with a weapon takes 20 stamina, with 2 3% runes it would take 21 or 22 stamina, depending on how you round it right?
isn't that reduction kind of unnoticeable, compared to the other curses?
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>>124437781
What is this serration thing I keep hearing about?
Saw weapons don't have any special damage types listed and their stats say they do the normal 100 damage to beasts, but people claim they have some kind of bonus against beast enemies.
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>>124438159
Yeah. NBow that beast and kin transformations are a thing and that penalty actually matters, increased stamina cost is the most efficient curse penalty out of all of them.
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>>124438124
>>124437306
>>124437136
>>124437148
NONE OF THOSE ARE BLOODBORNE RELATED REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124438163
The thing about beasts is in the item descriptions of the cleaver and spear.
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so logarius wheel str is best with flat 27% phys gems?
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So any of you cuties wants to run me through some high NG+ Central yharnam content so I can rush through the game with a decent BL?
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How was somebody this mad?
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>>124438452
i can give you a hand.
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aight bois that was fun but i got stuff. may i suggest an an arena with some fucking lights next time?
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>>124438526
Would be awesome, cheers, what pass?
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>>124437979
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>>124438524
hehehe
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>>124438571
Jesus Christ. It felt like I had my ass handed to me but it looks even worse from your pob
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>>124438382

The absolute best is 50/50 str/arc with abyssal nourishing gems.

Well, maybe now you also want abyssal scaling gems, not sure.
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When I spoke with Simon the first time I answered ''nightmares are fascinating!''. I just killed Ludwig, but shouldn't he be in this room now? He isn't here.
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>>124438694
oh wait sorry read your post the wrong way, dont have any characters thats just started NG+
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>>124438247
Unless you know something I don't, someone tested that and found the transformations don't actually make you kin/beast type for damage calcs.
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who ni-oh here?
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So what's the best starting class for skilltinge with a specialty on tinge? I want to do a bowblade class and I'm thinking of 50tinge 25skl. This sound good?
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>>124438760
how bad was the lag? I had a couple of instant transmission fight just before
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>>124438763
what about in a 50/10 build?
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>>124438807
Its cool,


In that case, anyone wants to run from the Cathedral ward (NG) all the way to/and kill the bloodletting beast?
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>>124438524
just filter that phrase, and you never even have to be bothered by it
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>>124438824
since Ninja Gaiden is one of my GOATs, me, I am. hope you can wear full samurai plate like pic related
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>>124438951

30% Blunt gems. Best used untricked.
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>>124438571
>using a Blood Dreg
mah boi
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>>124438524
Instead of bbg and dsg, we should split up pc and console instead
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>>124438906
Our fight wasn't laggy but I had the same experience a few fights before
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Silly question but I gotta make sure, after I make the isz RFC root do I gain acess to all the root chalice glyphs I own, or does it work for posterity. Say, I make isz rfc, THEN I get the pthumeru root chalice, I will have acess to it's glyphs?
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>>124438824
It's look "meh". Team Ninja is shit without Itagaki.
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>>124439192

Yes, you just have to make one depth 5 FRC to be able to use any depth 5 FRC for any chalice you currently possess.
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I want to make a chikage and bowblade build but i have no idea what origin to use. Anyone got any tips?
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>>124439267
>looks meh
shit taste confirmed.

>>124439113
mah nigga.
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>>124438824
looks like weeaboo witcher
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>>124439295
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>>124439349

Use the frontbuffer calculator linked in the OP.
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>>124439439
I dont know what i should aim for in terms of levels either apart from BL98
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hehehehe
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>>124437979
>>124438053
>>124438152
>>124438173
>>124438885
>>124439604
stupid

>>124438706
legit cool man shit i'm gonna copy that
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>Skipping through Valtr's dialog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSM_SO0GIBc
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>>124439657
don't bully rakuyofags, they have it hard enough as it is
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>>124439649

Depends on what kinda invasions you wantin' familia. 43 for bare minimum starter invasions, maybe lower for co-op, 50-60 for midgame, 70 for Mensis and Yahar'gul, 80+ for DLC. 100-120 is popular for endgame PvP and PvE.
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>>124439657
absolute madman
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On my bow blade build id like 25/50 skill/tinge but then i wouldnt be able to have 50 vit at BL98. What do?
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>>124440026
>trying to have hybrids in BL100 range
Go to at least 110.
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Just got off work, is the fightclub still going on?
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>>124440026
Less end
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Is the FC still going?
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>>124440090
Is there any way to utilise chikage and bowblade effectivly at BL98?
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>summon people to have fun boss coop for like the first time in hundreds of hours
>they are all minmaxed into oblivion with chalice gems and steamroll bosses in seconds
Where's the fun in this?
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Any good church pick webms?
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>>124440026
LS-45/20/10/25/40/07
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>>124437308
Welp, died at Ludwig, but that's ok, I didn't even expect to make it that far.

Thanks for helping me get the items, also had no idea the pizza cutter was there. Thanks for showing me that man.
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Why does the DLC Research Hall suck so much? All those enemies with tons of health and attacks that can kill you in two hits. This pain, it never goes away.
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>>124440216
Only 50BLT and base skl/str to wield them.
Or, which is much better, send this retarded circlejerk meta to hell and level up as much as it is required by your build.
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>>124440274
do DLC bosses for the other end of the spectrum. Hosts die too fast.
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>>124440274
>summon people to have fun boss coop on a new game character
>steamroll bosses solo regardless

I'm timing my gascan kills nowadays, fastest so far is ~13 seconds
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Now neither of us will be blood-addled!
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Laurence is bullshit. Jesus fuck. I have never raged this hard at a Souls boss. Ever.
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Can someone give me a super quick rundown on around what BL I should be for the different chalice dungeon depths?
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>>124440340
shit I had one
couldn't find it
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>>124440393
I was amused when you suddenly rollspammed back when the snail lady fell out of the sky. Also good luck on your hunting.
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so the Kirkhammer's unextended R2 counts as a thrusting attack, right?
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>>124440393
I suicided earlier because I had food already done but you missed a few other things from what I remember.
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>>124440519
I thought he was pretty fun. Are you on NG++++++ or something?
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Why 98 anyway?
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Reposting lore

Ebrietas is crying. You find her with her head down on the floor in the Altar of Despair. The water on the floor is actually her tears. Midway through her fight, she creates a field around herself that damages you slowly, this field is a shimmering mist that creates a sound when you enter it. The weapon Rosmarinus of the Choir is a firearm that creates a mist that emits a sound aswell, the description states the sound to be "Arias", and that this noise proves the mist is a "heavenly blessing". The final line of the description says "Oh, fair maiden, why is it that you weep?"
Why is Ebrietas crying? Maybe she lost her child? Maybe those things around the Upper Cathedral Ward are attempts at a surrogate?
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>>124440520
Levels 20/40/60/80/100+
Depths 1/2/3/4/5

This is about what would be considered appropriate I guess. There are people who clear CRF depth 5 dungeons on level 43 twinks though. Those are basically people who have learned the required dungeon route by heart and know the bosses like the back of their hand though.
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>>124440502
This fashion seems to be pretty popular nowadays.
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>>124440340
wait, what do you need a webm for?
Just to, like have?
Cause I'd love a really cool Church Pick Webm too.
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>>124440660
Are you asking why he is staying that level, or why I created the meta at that level?
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>>124440519
it's the new moves in first phase that involve him flopping down. He can even do a jumping belly flop on you-it's hilarious.

FROM fucking with guys thinking it's blue smelter demon.
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>>124440660

because memes


>>124440274

were you just doing a Amelia because I just got summoned for her and we literally did enough damage to chain stagger her, she didn't even get to attack except for the leap she did on the host at the very start.
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>>124440568
Yeah, wasn't expecting that, got spooked.

Also got spooked by that hunters shadow in that upper area. Never been there before and noticed it just before he jumped down.

Nice
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>>124440791
>why I created the meta at that level?
kek keep telling yourself that
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How does this sound for a chikage/bowblade build assuming i only use chikage in tricked mode:
50 vit
15 end
10 strength
15 skill
50 blood tinge
8 arcane
(BL98)
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>accidentally use some blood chunks to upgrade my secondary weapon.
>Now I'm five away from the eight I need instead of two.

God dammit.
I guess I've got to complete these fucking chalice dungeons.
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>>124440274
Most hosts are summoning because they have never beaten the noss before and are literally too shit to solo it ever. They summon phantoms to carry them, and even then, they can rarely survive more than 30 seconds. If you want your vermin, then you need to be able to exterminate the boss in sub 30 seconds or else the host's inevitable death will send you packing every time. Like less than 1% of beckoners are doing it because they're competent enough to solo but want to have fun co-oping. Co-op is the 'carry me' service for the overwhelming majority of absolutely shit players that would rather watch somebody else beat their game for them than learn how to actually play it themselves. Those of us that like co-op have just learned to adjust to the reality of it and what's expected of us.
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>>124440894
exactly what you want
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>>124440706
Probably because she's the "left behind" great One. I've heard people speculate that dead Rom-ish looking thing was just a cocoon for her, which meshes well with the game's metamorphosis themes. Perhaps the Healing Church only found her when she was basically a baby and her subsequent transformation is what turned the Altar of Despair into what it is now?
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What's the pwmf farming chalice?
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>>124440892
It really gets under your skin, doesn't it?
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>>124439741
Wasn't asking for your output, man.
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>>124437979
Maybe this scene looks better when it doesn't look like Maria is smashing her face into a bell...
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>>124441059
pwmf22gu
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>>124441071
it does, so it's working, but i also genuinely find it humorous
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>>124441156
Thanks famalam
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Anyone wants free vermin? rushing some NG bosses on a new char, now at blood-starved beast
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>>124441404
level?
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>tfw helping people with Laurence
It's tough, but fun. Though regretfully the majority of beckoners die. They need to learn it is imperative to be cautious as fuck with Laurence. Doubly so when his legs fall off.

>>124440519
The entire fight is about hit and run. If you give him an opportunity he's going to stunlock you to death with his massive near-inescapable range and speed. And don't even think about approaching when you're not at 80% health at the least. He hits harder and more often than Orphan.
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Spooky.
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>>124441193
How is it hilarious.

>>124441639
It is a push over when he has legs. When they are gone, bring out the artillery (BMA + Repeating Pistol, Magic Spam, etc.) then just finish him off with cautious pokes.
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>>124441762
>HE CAPTURED MY FAVOURITE TRICK
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Dear God almighty, someone please help me on Ludwig.

NG+6 is fucking hell.
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>>124441843
because it's a blatant lie told with the intent of riling people up
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>>124441528
Sorry, killed him, but rushing to Amelia now, BL is 19
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>>124441762

I'M GONNA PUT SOME CAULIFLOWER ON MY PIZZA
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>>124441639
>>124441843
I actually had the most success with his second form locking on and staying close.

If he tries to do that hand-over-hand explosion crawl he just goes in a wide circle around you. You have to be able to i-frame through some of his swipes but it isn't too bad. When he fire-spits or shits lava it's basically a couple seconds free to heal up or beat on him.

When I tried to keep my distance he'd always close in and wreck me but as soon as I stayed close I beat him easy.
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What would the best strength weapon be for Ludwig, Failures and Maria?
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>Curse the fiends, their children too, and their children's children, forever true...

Who's saying this line? The Amygdala who grabs you? It almost sounds like Maria.
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>>124441941
I'll help. Code?
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nice
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>>124441762
so the L2 keeps hitting a guy even if he dashes around you, god that's dumb.
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>>124442134
vermin, heading towards the gate that needs that emblem thing now, should be there in a min or 5
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>>124440962
Just wanted to 100% agree with mah nigga here. When you're a summon, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
>Those of us that like co-op have just learned to adjust to the reality of it and what's expected of us.
100% true desu senpai.
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Could someone pls help me with Vicar Amelia

Password is helpbbg and I'm at the cathedral ward bonfire
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>>124442104
Mother Kos personified
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>church cannon has a retarded aoe on top of damage that goes up to 700 AR on 50 BLT
Can't wait to try this thing for finishing up shitters in pvp after eating like half of their HP with a single bloodletter swing.
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>>124441762
I freaking love the Wine Hakama. Comfiest, most stylish baggy pants in the game.
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>>124441843
His first form's trivial, but the majority of hosts don't know how to trivialize him.

A shitton of them get hit by the extremely telegraphed ground explosion when he fists the ground.
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>>124442189

>crow-out soon, hunter
>when?
>NOW
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>>124442307
They are the same as brigand trousers in ds1. Comfiest thing possible.
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>>124442286
...Ah, the cosmos, of course!

But really, that's neat. So did Byrgenwerth presumably kill Kos? It was unclear to me if they found her corpse, or if something they did resulted in her being a corpse.
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>>124442281
Be there in a moment friendo. What's your level?
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>>124442281
on my way
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>>124442281
Ringing
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I know, >reddit but

https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3vlws9/bloodborne_the_old_hunters_ost_rip_download_in/
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>>124441939
It's really not. I created it when we were discussing metas. I was pushing level 100, and some of Kob's cronies were pushing level 80 because they were afraid of level 150s but still wanted to maximum range for invasions, both up and down.

I pointed out that a level 98 is only 2 levels below the level 100 that I was originally pushing, and that it was also capable of invading level 80s. They also noted that it avoided the 150 players.

>>124442028
I only keep my distance while hammering him with long range attacks. When I am out of bullets, I try to stay to the side of him.

>>124442435
Yeah, I notice that happens with every boss though.
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>>124442435
I wouldn't say his first form's trivial. Yeah, his attacks are super telegraphed, but he covers a huge amount of distance very quickly and you can easily get unlucky and stuck in a corner because of the arena.
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>>124442104
The fishmen whispering in the hamlet.
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>>124439127
do i use tricked mode at all?
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>>124442580
was just about to ask for that
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>>124437979
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>>124442134
Ringing
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>>124442723
Alrighty, I'm there now
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>>124442672
No. Tricked mode reduces the physical damage greatly but gives a massive bonus to the arc damage and scaling. If your arc is low, you'll actually lose damage in trickmode.
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>>124442817
so what you're saying is i dont get to spin the wheel? :(
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>>124442704
Fug, meant to post this one instead.
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>>124442087
Pizza Cutter or Beast Cutter
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>>124442281
>adversary Winter Lantern has arrived
Kinda wish we'd stuck around long enough to meet them
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>>124442747
changing pass to bbg lets see if that works, otherwise I can't host? I seem to have issues summoning people, anyone knows what ports I need to open?
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>>124438767

Please respond.
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>>124442489
>>124442547
>>124442564

Thanks MarvelousLester and guys, sorry if I was shit but it's literally day 3 with the game for me
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>>124442484
She washed up dead. Byrgenwerth may have snubbed her unborn child for a cord, it's unclear. But they definitely fucked with the residents of the Hamlet by fishing through their brains for eyes. The Orphan(and probably its sort of dead mother with it) cursed Byrgenwerth and their descendants to be pulled into the Hunter's Nightmare upon blood-drunkenness. The reason I think they killed the Orphan is because we only get the Nightmare Slain message once we hit the ethereal looking Orphan spirit thing. The Orphan we fought was likely just a fleshdummy it imagined using its hatred similar to how Gehrman imagined the Doll using his love for Maria.
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>>124438767
Re-start the game
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>>124443081

try to reload the area
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>help people with ludwig no problem
>my summons are always shit

everytime. level 81 outside ludwig's door password: gitgud
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Yo, Leita, remember to bloodbullet when you host
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>>124442981

That was my first invasion actually, I'm sure you could have beaten him but I dropped my sphagetti and entered the boss room
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>>124443190
coming
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>>124443081

I believe you have to tell Ludwig no, his Spartans are actually pansies sorry pal. Then don't kill him. Then Simon will appear and finish him.

This is the only time I've seen Simon in that room, he usually skips to the hall. This is the first time I've told Ludwig no.
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>>124443026
I'm guessing that was you who summoned me right?
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>>124443410
Yea it was, took long to connect though, going from grand cathedral to witches of hemwick if anyone wants to join me
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>>124443131
Nah, remember Kos uplifted ROM to Great One status.

So Kos must have interacted with humans in Yharnam while still alive.
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>That feel when you have, some how, literally run out of Vials

I had fucking 400 of these shits, how did I run out?!
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>>124443131
This is pretty close to my interpretation. I took Kos and Orphan being dead-but-not-really as homage to Lovecraft's 'dead but dreaming' Cthulhu. The idea being that these are beings we can only understand up to a certain point; their flesh is perishable but their consciousness extend deep into planes unknown to us.

I guess the Ur example of this in Bloodborne would be the Yharnam Stone.
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>decide to help some people with Ludwig

Various results:
>host summoning me along with another person for NG Ludwig
>intro cutscene plays
>they havent even attempted to fight him solo

>hosts getting steamrolled by trying to tank rape horse combos

>everytime he jumps they just roll frantically regardless of whats happening

>trying to roll through his giant charge into his body

and the classic,

>host stays back while I deal every single point of damage

I hope none of you did these were you guys
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God his dialogues are heartbreaking.
Feels like he was a great hero who just was born in a wrong place and wrong time.
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>>124443190
>>124443296
You guys already start?
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>>124443581
by dying a lot and being shit at this game.
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>>124443296
thanks so much
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>>124443581
i waste a lot helping people with living failures and ludwig
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>>124443683
yeah, we got him
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>>124442580
>reddit
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>>124443751
anytime bro
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>>124443806
>getting hit by the living failures
come on man
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>Some runes you have to kill the girl, adella, iosefka and willem
>literally have to do a playthrough murdering everyone to get everything.

Awkward.
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>>124443564
I don't think Kos is dead in any traditional sense. She's a corpse, true, but her acolytes still pray to her, indicating there's still some residual power intact.

Kind of like Queen Yharnam.
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>>124443656
Don't forget
>ludwigs fag who deals no damage but seems to have 99 vitality
>standard response to boss attack is to take it to the face, roll away then heal
>with various levels of success
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>>124440962
I disagree, many of the people I help actually fight, it's only a small minority that hang back and expect you to win.

I summon all the time too, it's more fun playing with others even though I don't usually need help.
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>>124443662
This whole DLC is full of tragedy. I felt really sad at the end of it, looking out over the sea.
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>>124443662
>Told him the truth about church hunters being pieces of shit.
Sorry Ludwig. I'm not gonna lie. At least Simon was pretty cool.
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>>124443564
Or she's a Great One and doesn't die in the traditional sense that humans do. It's unclear exactly the nature of her death, but I feel the lightning in the Orphan fight and the fishhead's rambling about "the wrath of Mother Kos" makes a case for her still having influence in some capacity.
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Anyone want to come fight Blood Starved Beast with me?

I'll be at the gate soon, code is bbg level 45
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>>124440962
this is too true

i was helping someone with fucking one reborn, and he just sat on top of the balcony while me and the summon were wailing on him

decided to run up to him and as soon as he engages with the boss he dies within 5 seconds
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>>124443931

>not murdering everyone right before ng+ in every game

It's like you hate free stuff. Owned by other people. Taken by force.

Deadly force.
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Can anyone help at orphan of kos? My arcane build deals shot dmg. I'll be ringing by the lamp. Pass is doodoo.
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>>124444114
>can't beat bsb at lvl45.
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>>124444114
sure anon i'll come, be there in a few
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>>124444183
I meant just for fun, but okay whatever
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>>124444171
you dont cheese him with a call beyond?
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>>124444074
I don't remember church hunters being assholes.
They are just puppets manipulated by the Choir.
Alfred is outright likeable character, minus his insane fixation on Logarius.
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>>124444023
I actually felt that the Orphan's send off was the first and only happy thing to happen in Bloodborne. Although it was happy in a bittersweet way.
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>>124443965
>hosts who actually manage to chug 20 fucking vials and still die
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>>124443586
There's lots of examples of it in the main game. Gehrman probably stopped existing in the physical world decades ago, Micolash is dead in the real world but alive in the Nightmare, and same with Laurence and basically all of the Hunters in the nightmare. Annalise lives even when she's mush, and Yharnam presumably has something similar going on with the Stone. I'm surprised everyone seems to think she's dead for good just because humans operate on those terms. This even puts the "tomb of Oedon" into context, or at least it could. Great Ones may very well just take on another ethereal form upon death or some shit. Idk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_8t5ay0-YU
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>>124444351
Endings are actually very optimistic for such a grim game.
You either get back to living your life as you see fit or ascend to the status of true great one.
The only somehow bad ending is wheelchair and even then you free Gehrman from his nightmare.
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>>124444476
So fucking good. Goddamn why did the jokeboss get the best bgm in the dlc?
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>>124444351
Yeah. It's less that I was sad to have killed Orphan, and more sad for everything terrible that happened because of what humans did when confronted with a power they didn't understand. Cruelty, death, ruin, and all of it came down to that.

I feel bad for the Great Ones overall, I think. Aside from Amygdalas none of the Great Ones seem actually hostile--more defending their territory (in the Nightmare) or just imprisoned and alone (Ebrietas), or just hanging out (Rom). Even the Moon Presence probably thinks it's helping.

Everyone just got fucked over because humans didn't understand Great Ones, Great Ones didn't understand humans, and it all went to hell.
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ringing with "vermin" as pass at the witches of hemwick entrance, get yer free vermin
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>>124443931
You can get them in chalice dungeons instead
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>>124444630
omw
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>>124444476
This was actually in one of the first BB trailers, I guess they just had it kicking around and threw it in for Failures. Would've been a crime not to put that fucking music in the game. I sincerely hope they don't have any unused tracks they never released, the thought makes me sad
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>>124444630
>needing help for the witches
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>>124444114
the bullying was real
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>>124444730
:X Actually died by one of the giants before the entrance , will be there in a sec again

>>124444780
>Not giving out free vermin to people
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>>124443936
Nah the fish guys definitely think she's dead if you listen to the whispers there is at least three lines saying as much the praying is more likely to be an eternal mourning for her as the wandering fish guy references too.
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>>124444245
Boy Anon, that was a close one. We both almost didn't make it there ;)
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>>124444114
>bsb at level 45
Jesus christ I was killing ludwig by that point in the game
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>>124443656
>Get summoned to fight Ludwig
>Host named after Inyuyasha character
> Host already has Bucket Constable with him
>I bow but he just runs past me through the gate
>ok.jpg
>Follow him through and start the fight
>Fight's going pretty good up until the second phase
>Guy dodges into every sword swing but manages to vial and survive
>Get to the last 3%
>Host tries to trade hits with Ludwig for that last percent and dies
>Can run up and finish Ludwig off in one hit
>Remember he didn't bow back
Fuck you Sashomaru.
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>>124444267
I haven't tried honestly. That spell has been very inconsistent for me. I will give it a go.
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>>124444387
That's a really interesting point about Oedon. I'd thought something similar, but never in those terms. It really hurts that this is the only additional content we're getting for BB. I'm grateful, don't get me wrong, but goddamn the story leaves you wanting more.

>>124444536
This is pretty true. BB has the kind of happy endings that I imagine people who genuinely crave suicide are able to achieve in their final moments.
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>>124444854
it was just that damn final phase, poison all over the shop

>>124444860
:^)
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>farming 5pwujscd on an arc character
>perfect 27.2% everywhere
>offshape crescent and radials dropping
>no arc/fire etc
>farming 5pwujscd on a BLT character
>bolt/fire/beasthunter/kinhunter/adept/arcane gems everywhere with awesome curses
>total of one 27.2% phys gem
>ATK down
You think you're funny don't you Bloodborne?
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>>124442981
iktf
I was once invaded by a skeleton? right as I walked through fog. I will forever be left curious as to what a skeleton? could have been.
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>>124444838
Point me in the direction as far as hearing these whispers goes. I hear mumblings near the lamp but they seem incomprehensible to me everywhere I stand
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>>124444860
Yeah, he is already dead in mine too. Just having fun, if you seen the fight I didn't need the help
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>>124444561
>that arena
>that vista
>implying the failures aren't a lore heavy fight and you don't just lack eyes
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Maria? Password is bbg123
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>>124444476
I love this because it's clearly an homage to Mars, Bringer of War. I used to play that in marching band all the time and I was stoked to hear it represented in the most appropriate setting imaginable (a cosmic horror story).

For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q
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Did they break Riflespear again?

I've been oneshot by the riflespear douche by amelia at least twice with the shotgun attack of the tricked mode
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>>124445097
Ill be there shortly.
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>>124444981
The clearest you'll hear it is next to where the first enemy is, they overlap each other quite a bit so you will need to turn the environment sound up and put on headphones also it's pretty much impossible to hear while it's still raining.
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>>124445097
Be there in a sec
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>Oh, Laurence... Master Willem... Somebody help me... Unshackle me please, anybody... I've had enough of this dream... The night blocks all sight... Oh, somebody, please...
So it's not Gehrman's words, right?
Gehrman and Orphan share the same cry during this monologue and beginning or orphan boss battle.
Orphan was bound to his Nightmare as a shadowy husk, being unable to leave so he begs for being released.
When you free Orphan Doll says that Gehrman sleeps much better now.
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>>124444267
This is working pretty good. Almost hit 1k on hI'm once.
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>>124445097
Ringing at the lumenwood bell now.
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>>124443662
NPCs don't have a lot of exposure in BB but when you put piece the story together Ludwig is one of the most heroic characters in the souls games.

The guy knew shit had to be done, he made a workshop, the best STR weapon and wrecked shit because he felt it was his duty.
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