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"Ice" witch edition

http://www.paladins.com/


>Latest Patch
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?1581-December-3rd-2015-0-8-The-Frigid-Queen-Patch-Notes&p=7634#post7634


>General Character information
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Paladins_Wiki


>I need a key
Leave an email in the thread or wait for someone to post a code.

>General FAQ
http://pastebin.com/6ssZ5x7u

If you have extra keys, there's plenty of people in the pastebin who would like one.
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Nth for Sexy Pip
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So how do we fix Evie illusion spam without making her useless?
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>>124374786

She is useless now, the only useful thing she can do is blast shot spam.
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>>124377238
>Lets make all the DPS cards Epic.
Hi-rez is retarded. Especially since the thing people complained mostly about Cassie was the Reload, Stay There, Blast Shower combo. Now it's literally the only way to build her.
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>>124378330
That's not true. Their forums and subreddit were constantly complaining about her damage and her lifesteal. And this is exactly what I meant when I said that bitching on 4chan instead of actually giving feedback in a place that matters to them was going to come bite you people in the ass.
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>>124378608
Not him but I can't tolerate reddit. They are literally fucking brainwashed or something. They call every bug an intended feature, say shit like "hi-rez knows what they're doing!" when blatantly shitty decisions are being made, call everything overpowered and so on. The worst part is that everything is decided by their stupid fucking bandwagon vote system. Half of them don't even respond, they simply click up or downvote. God forbid a hi-rez employee or mod disagree's with you, instantly all your fucking comments are downvoted and ignored because you don't have a big shiny name. Man seriously fuck that place.

Guess I'll have to use the official forums or something, though I cant imagine it's any better. At least theres no upvotes.
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I always feel like I do 0 damage in this game. What am I doing wrong? What should I focus on this piece of shit game to feel gud at it?
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>>124378608
Still they didn't need to nerf all the fucking DPS cards to Epic.

Problem with Hi-rez is they give the characters all these really good DPS cards in the beginning instead of making it a gradual increase in power to legendary. So they decide that the cards should just be Epic instead of nerfing the cards and placing them correctly.
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>page 10
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>>124378940
That couldn't be any more wrong. The subreddit literally can't stop complaining about every single change that they make to the game, even (specially) when it's a change THEY asked for. The subreddit isn't even owned by hi-rez. It's extremely hard to find any kind of feedback in there, just senseless compalints and "pls revert the changes".
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>>124384364
>Evies flying up to the top of ledges and raining down on your teammates
>They don't look up and take her out even when you tell them she keeps doing it

Fucking soaring cunt.
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>>124386429
I hope they don't do anything to her flying.
it's so fun.
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>>124386774
I agree so much. flying is fun as hell

too bad everyone instalocks her. only got to play her twice
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>>124386920
I wish she was actually an Ice witch.
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>>124390986
just need to make her "Evie, The Illusionist" and call it a day
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>>124391981
Or pull a Kukulkan and just replace her with a new character that is an illusionist and drop her in when they have the whole ice thing down.
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how is barik balanced at all?

that turret will goddamn solo people. so hard to kill too with your shield and the barricade CD card
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>>124392448
They idea was that people would be supposed to be smart enough to notice the turret is actually dangerous now and that they should kill it. Sadly they miscalculated because the playerbase is full of people like you.
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>>124396478
im the barik with the 600 points, you mongoloid
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Can anyone give me one key?
I want so much to play this game.
[email protected]
Thank you very much
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Dead.
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>>124398771
game
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>>124392448
They put extra emphasis on Barik's turret, so now the main thing he's super good at is point control. If Barik can get established on a point, you're fucked.
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>>124384364
That's how it is now. I haven't been there since the siege change thing they did a week ago or whatever. During that time people there were like 3 or 4 'appreciate hi-rez' and "its only beta" threads.
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Anyone here with some keys left?
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>>124392294
More or less.
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>>124392294
You mean "pull a Sun Wukong."
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I need one key, please someone help me
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>>124397269
sent
>>124401964
maybe
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How is evie compared to pip?
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>>124402531
I say pip is stronger.
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>>124402531
Evie is pretty disgusting. Not only does she have two escapes, but if built correctly --
>Illusion creates an extra illusion
>Blink reduces Illusion's cooldown by 80%
>Legendary: Blink creates two illusions
-- she can swarm the field with illusions and wipe out most resistance. Illusion Army Evie is crazy strong right now, and she only loses to AoE or Grohk.
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i'll start playing right now, anyone have any tips for a total newbie?
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>>124402991
Shoot at the bad people.
Stand on the point.
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>>124402827
Getting that legendary is, sadly, complete rng and unlucky people are fucked.
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>>124403096
It's the free legendary everybody have and you will always get it at level 5.
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>>124402991
Bunnyhopping is for chumps and -- as of this patch -- is actively discouraged by the system, so don't do it.
Stand on the point.
If you're attacking alongside your siege engine, make sure you focus on the door. The emphasis is on player damage to take down doors. Subsequently, if the enemy is coming at you with a siege engine, you should prioritize the players if forced.
This game is point control and base rush. This is NOT TDM.
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>>124403278
What patch was guaranteed legendary added?
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>>124403527
>http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?1581-December-3rd-2015-0-8-The-Frigid-Queen-Patch-Notes&p=7634#post7634
>The beginning cards for each Champion have been updated. Each starting set of cards will include 4 Common cards, 1 Rare card, 1 Epic card, and 1 Legendary card:
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>>124403527
This patch. A lot of cards had their rarity changed, but they guaranteed every player now has a minimum baseline of cards they can use, which includes one legendary. Evie's free legendary is "Blink summons two Illusions."
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You guys' thoughts on siege engine being slow and tedious as fuck now?

I liked the fast paced gameplay..
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>>124404109
It's not the siege engine that's slow; it will always outrun players on foot. The problem is that if you take down a door, the siege engine is automatically destroyed, which stops any momentum you may have accrued in your push. If you almost kill a door but fail, it automatically heals up to half health, to boot. Games feel slower now because it's not as clear-cut that a team has the advantage, not when they constantly have to fall back even after taking down a door and allowing the enemy to potentially rally and recoup their losses.
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>>124404482
Really hope they revert those changes.

They completely removed what the game is.
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>>124404880
On the plus side, it allows a greater margin of error and potentially makes it easier to mount a comeback and win.
On the other hand, matches take longer because you now need to control a minimum of three points to complete a match.

I can't wait for other modes to make their way into the game.
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>>124405058
It's not just that, the gate hp was increased, tons of damage cards were made epic, damage was lowered in general..
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>>124405258
Not to mention the siege engine damage was reduced, putting emphasis on player damage to the door.
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>>124405580
I feel it'd be best if they just reverted all these changes.

Paladins is made as a fastpaced team game. Why would they change its whole purpose?
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>>124405815
They did say this was a "highly experimental" patch, and it's only been out for a day or two. Give it some time to settle.
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>>124405815
Is Paladins really fast paced? So many things slow, stall or punish movement outside of the movement abilities.

I wish I could test to see what the game would be like if the time to kill was lowered and everyone moved at around Mount speed constantly.
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>>124406924
It would become Unreal Tournament, and everyone would keep missing their shots.
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>>124407108
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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>>124407286
It feels like shit when you can't get kills because it's difficult to lead shots when enemies are moving that fast. Plus, with everyone being so dodgy, it rails even further against the point that this is a game about point defense.
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>>124407535
On the other hand, you cannot really miss that many shots right now, especially not in medium range duels. If there's one thing UT does reasonably right, it's dueling.
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I would put in a change where the siege engine doesn't die when a gate goes down but keep the rest of the changes.
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>>124412740
Maintain emphasis on player damage to the gates?
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>>124415947
Yes
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So is there a group for playing with each other somewhere?
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>>124421738
I've yet to play with people in this.
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>>124421738
depends

how strong is your meme game
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>>124396606
I stand corrected on that you are a brainless idiot (on that sense maybe), but not that the community as a whole is full of them.
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>>124423526
*that the community is full of retards and that barik isn't actually op.
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>>124423669
The only thing Barik is good at is point defense. He has to get on the point first before he becomes an issue.
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>>124423469
I can not deal with fucking pubs anymore.
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>>124423758
even then (unless he has capsule) flanking his shield ruins his day because his turret isn't really tanky.
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>>124423887
You are playing a game that went into closed beta less than a month ago, most people are bad at the game let's not get elitists here, because you probably are also a shitter yourself.
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>>124424469
I'm sure i am a shitter, im not retarded though.
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>>124427086
Paladins deals with a different breed of shitter compared to SMITE. A SMITE shitter can't follow tactics, doesn't understand the nature of the game, builds items terribly, and doesn't know when to fight and when to escape. A Paladins shitter is the same as an FPS shitter (can't aim, etc.), with the addition of not building a good hand of cards and actually playing the objectives (falls under FPS shitter).
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>>124427378
I hate I have such shit aim, it is why I never play FPSs for long.
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Ded
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>>124433306
We're all playing this shitty game.
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>>124434042
I'm not playing until people stop instalocking Evie, so that I can always play her.
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>>124434143
Here is how you get ice tits, you remember where her icon is on the screen and you click it quickly. I get her all the time doing that.
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Am I kawaii?
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>>124434565
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can anyone toss me a spare key please?
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>>124434565
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>>124434143
You mean when they nerf her into the ground?
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>>124436308
I'll still play her.
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>>124436308
What is to nerf? Her illusion damage?
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>>124441423
That's probably the safest nerf. They can't alter the number of illusions she gets or make them too fragile.
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>>124441965
They hit for about 125 now, maybe 80?
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>>124442180
They hit for 40% of Evie's damage. Change that percent value.
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>>124442246
I wish I had more of Evie's cards, I'd like to try out different builds.
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>tfw the only character I'm really interested in with the current roster is Cassie
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>>124444201
Enjoy only using Blast Shot.
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>>124444201
Is it because she's waifu bait, or what?
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>>124444273
Blast Shot does really hurt though.
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>like the game
>can't aim for shit
How do I git gud?
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>>124444319
sorta, and don't really like the other designs ( not counting waifu tier champs ), but the overall feel of the weapons feels off to me, maybe I need to spend more time with the game and give other champions some more time. The bow is pretty mediocre compared to other weapons or it's just me.
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>>124447970
Practice.
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>>124447970
by not using the bow or just spend some time in practice to get used to the skills and cards... and probably work on your "tactics "...
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>>124447970
Start with hitscan weapons like Grohk, Fernando and maybe Ruckus. After that, you can move on to characters whose projectiles have an appreciable travel time (Barik, Cassie, Evie, etc.). Use Buck if you want a shotgun and learn to fight in close quarters, or use Pip if you want a grenade launcher and want to learn how to arc your shots.
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This game is so fucking awful right now. Evie is complete trash if they get the siege engine since it's programmed like a bot and won't even look at nearby players.
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>>124450512
At least the enemy is shooting at the illusions and not you. That's the whole point of them, not just to bolster your damage.
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>>124434565
funny thing is, still looks better than her icon
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>>124450868
They normally can tell when an Evie runs past them to get to the siege engine.
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>>124453073
Or the one who jumps on their staff to fly away.
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>>124434565
>It's okay to stare, I'm a lot to take in.
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A funny thing: if you are disconnected during a game and reconnect you have the bot name, not your own.
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>>124454809
>WAKE ME UP
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>still not invited to the beta

well, I mean at least it's not good, r-right?
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>>124458591
PB1RP578A25A351121
Take this one, I sent it but the guy didn't redeeemd it
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>>124459035
oh god I didn't realize I had to download the client to activate the key, I hope it's still available by the time I have it.
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>>124459035
it worked! thanks anon!
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>>124460627
My pleasure
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Removing the list of player emails in the pastebin; the list has become very clogged up and anyone who still wants a key need only post their email again.

If anyone on the list wants a key, gotta post your email again. You're much more likely to get one this way.
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I think Evie would be better flat chested.
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>>124464779
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>>124464925
What's wrong? You don't like flat chested girls?
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>pip is instantlocked
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>>124466672
Is there something wrong with the fox copy?
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>>124467132
I want to play as him
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>>124466672
>tfw im that guy

t-b-h i try to instalock evie first
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I can't wait for the loli, I hope she has cute attacks.
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>>124454809

...
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>>124475785
>no masscara

already looks 100X better.
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>>124475785
>he payed money for this game

lamayoing @ ur lyfe
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YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE
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An interesting read; Krett's view on the game's current state: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dRH03Qif4jxJBs9trLjvtYsDCDjGdo_kdJtZ-kpDTbE/edit

>>124476619
>Fallout 4: Pip-boy addition
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May i have one of those beta-keys?
Overwatch is failure, this one seems a better approach to the genre.
Want to play it bad.
"[email protected]" Thanks guys.
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>>124477725
>a better approach to the genre

this is league of legends with cards and fps view

i mean its fun, but lets be real here
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>>124477847
I meant to say that this game seems at least more fun than the jewzzard fanleech tf2
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>>124477725
Sent one my friend, hope you'll stick around through some patches and watch as the game evolves.
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>>124478668
Thank you so much!
I hope hi-rez does it right this time, they let tribes rot.
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>>124479010
Oh you bet they got it right this time

This time you're the one rotting
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>>124476683
>holy grail discord
Krett is a fatefag?
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>>124476683
who?
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A beta key would be rad if anyone had a spare.
Email is "[email protected]" I have a need to feed.
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tried Buck, fucking hated his useless kit.
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>>124486379
He's a tanky assassin. You will chunk the squishy players and you can trap most characters pretty well. Make sure you use your leap to either chase some one who used their escape or escape yourself.
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>>124486379
yeah i didnt like it too much either. no big damage button, at least not without certain cards. just jump and a wall. it's a rather unsatisfying shotgun too
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>>124488019
the delay on the wall is pretty horrendous and a buck on the team can easily ruin your teamfights... fucking hate his kit, the upgraded jump seems like a good option, sadly ..good look aiming your jumps properly
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>>124486379
>wall
>cqc superiority
>self heal
>leap for miles

You're just using it wrong, anon.
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>>124488530
according to the stats I performed pretty well, but didn't like the character.
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Could I please get a key from someone?

Email: [email protected]

This game looks really fun.
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>>124486379
Damage leap made me fall in love with him, fucking goomba stomping squishes never gets old.
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>>124488316
a bad buck only.
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I like acid pip more than I do explosive pip.
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Grohk is my favorite so far

what's a good build? I used to play with roots and lightning for the totem but rarely I get to be so close to the enemies, so now I'm trying to go for enhanced totem health, chance to slow on attack and castable chain lightning on the totem to fuck with people when they are close together

I get some decent damage out of it along with supporting fernandos who already on the point, but the totem keeps dying so easily, I also don't understand how long it takes for it to disappear on its own
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>>124488530
>cqc superiority
>Skye exists
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>>124495720
forethought, momentum, arc lightning. There you just won the game.
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>>124495720
Sow the seed and lightning totem is brutal
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>>124488771
I'm just fuckin with you anon.
Honestly though he's not bad, just really lackluster compared to characters like Skye, Evie and everyone else with much more going on.

He's just very simple/basic, which isn't exactly a bad thing. Some people prefer more direct characters.
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so if you have less cards, you ahve a higher chance of getting the cards you want in a match? (saying you own the cards you want)
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>>124496212
I play Skye at a range, she's squish as fuck and a Buck with buffed autos can two-three hit her at point blank. Her value isn't in close combat, it's in ganking and 1v1. You shouldn't ever need to be "close" with Skye unless you're 1v1 or dropping a bomb to clear a cap point.
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>>124496637
Yes. Partying shares all cards across the party though, so pair with friends who have cards you want.

You do have friends, right anon?

Note that neither of these will matter in constructed deck play.
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>>124496637
Pretty much why we want constructed. current mode devalues people who are gathering cards and actively testing.
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>>124496954
Why would I party? more cards I don't want
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>>124496637
You increase the pool of things that suck the more chests you open, isn't it grant?
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>>124497085
>cards you can reroll later vs 0-30-0 instalock skye

Party every time
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>>124476683
tl;dr (among other points) -
>Temple Ruins has plenty of random cover and is varied enough to warrant different playstyles depending on the point
>Enchanted Forest is very open and is super-unsafe when it comes to taking the point
>Buck's job is to dive the backline and be a 1v1 monster; he is not a tank
>Cassie's only good build is Blast Shower
>Skye should build for autos and focus on hit-and-run skirmishes
>Barik can build around any of his specials and change his playstyle accordingly
>Fernando, depending on build, can either be impossible to kill or can dive and 1v1 scrubs
>Ruckus is the "most broken" character in the game because his objective damage is way too good
>Grohk's best build is Arc Lightning; play from safety in the back and don't get caught out
>Pip's best build is Acid Cloud; stand in the back and lob 'nades like a grenadier is supposed to
>Evie should build for a clones or a stronger Blink; wreak havoc with clones or 1v1 ambush people with Blink
>The team lives and dies by the backline
>That said, every team needs a good frontline
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>>124498239
>Cassie's only good build is Blast Shower
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>>124498360
sucks, shes my bae

I hope splashbrush draws more hoes
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>>124498239
Also, Barik's turrets are crazy and should be a priority for everyone to take down.
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>>124498239
>The team lives and dies by the backline

Far too often I've lost matches to Skye and Ruckus Back Attacks that people were too stupid to spin around and murder the would be assassin.
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>>124499460
From the document:
>If you hear skye, turn around and fight her. Also yell for your team to help you, ==immediately==.
Even if she doesn't have Buck's giant presence, you cannot ignore Skye, period.
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>>124486351
>>124489395
Sent ;^)
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Why is it always the lowest scoring person on the team that complains how everyone on their team is a noob and it is matchmaking's fault.

double points if its a skye or pip.
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>Buck with Double Leap Legendary and Damage Stomp
>Know all you aim his Leap

Mother fucking everyone is getting Goomba Stomped.
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>>124502152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Je7aDNrsg
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Hurry up!

PB2RP7B13721F51129
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>>124502478
That's an impressive leap.
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>>124501963
For me it's always the Fernando, or the Buck, but usually Fernando.

Second place goes to Cassie and or Skye.
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>Teammate freaks out cause when he asks me why I don't have Refraction and I tell him I don't own it.

How annoying
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Toxic bump
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how come braindead faggots are the first to get keys for these games ... 3 games in a row I end up with retards ...
>inb4 someone gave me the key.
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>>124515526
I've given out quite a few keys in this thread.

Sorry I guess.
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>>124515526
The thing I notice about a lot of people is they're cowards when it comes to point bravery. Like a Grohk that doesn't charge with a Fernado and just sits in the back on his Totem trying to zap people.
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>>124517204
People should try the game.
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Is there a match history screen yet?
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Played for about 5 hours straight last night, lost ONE match out of the maybe 10-15 I played.

This game is literally made of shitters... I can only imagine how bad it would be with a full 5 stack. I hope ranking is added soon.
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>>124522820
closed beta and a limited playerbase, you will probably get ranked a year after release.
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>>124503031
I'll had some more to the pool

PALB2D8FB15B51116
and
PALBAC993D9F51116
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So the next guy is some edge lord?
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Evie futa clones gangbanging Cassie.
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So... anyone up to playing?
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>>124539517
Only if you'll call me names and make fun of the size of my penis.
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>>124539656
Stop being lewd.
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>>124540659
But I can't.
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>>124528226
Maybe, there is also some rumor about a dwarf sniper
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Smaller maps & class progression coming up.
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>>124549369
Class?
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>>124550514
I have no clue what the hell that's going to be about.
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afk faggots....
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>>124549369
>reduced map size
The map weren't that big to begin with, not sure if it's a good idea.
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>>124557580
i think its a good idea. the maps are far too moba for an fps, i think
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>>124549369
>15-20 minutes match time
That's way to fucking long.
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>>124548232
They already have the model for edgelord in the data.
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>All these Bucks not securing the fucking point

I may have the shield but you have the fucking rock wall.
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>>124559607
His top priority should be ruining the squishies with his insane damage and then circling to the point.
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>>124558228
Latest patch has greatly increased the average match length, so I'm looking forward to that.

>>124559607
>king of backline disruption standing on point
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>>124559607
Securing the point isn't his primary job. His job is to dive the backline and 1v1 scrubs who aren't prepared for a shotgun to the face.

If you want to secure the point, take Fernando and Barik.
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>>124566597
Buck's recovery just doesn't cut it for tanking the damage of an entire team but is perfect for being a 1vs1 monster.
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Anyone who doesn't say Grohk is the strongest character in the game is lying to themselves.
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I've never seen a game go from promising to complete shit in one patch. Holy fuck.
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>>124571331
Smite, focus patch.
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every faggot wants to play a squishy dmg dealer ... fuck this game
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>>124571331
I feel like making the siege engine not die when the door goes down would be the right way cause I feel like the team attacking should have to attack the door to do the most damage.
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>get to level 4 as cassie
>don't get a single attack speed card

what do you do?
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>>124575132
Blast shot build
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>>124575202
If a Cassie nails you with a Blast Shot Build, it really fucking hurts.
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>>124575202
>>124575272
That's because it's Cassie's ONLY build.
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>>124575462
>not rolling with 100% length, 120% movement speed, 6s CD on successful hit after roll, +400 dmg on attack after roll
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>>124576534
Big game hunter is nice if the enemy team has a Buck and Fernado.
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Anyone else getting this after the latest patch?
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>>124579747
Not as bad but yes.
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Man, tonight is just awful for matches. Nothing but cowards and shitty Evies on my team.
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They fucking better rever this abortion of a patch.
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>>124583297
>you will always have the shit player of the champion in your team
I always like when the Skye in my team go 0/10 when the one in the other team is 12/0
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Poor Grohk
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>>124575462
At this point everything honestly feels broken.

I can pick half the characters in the game and pick up a build which just feels completely whack.

Barik is probably the outright strongest right now, Skye too now that Re-entry is a green and you can get well-rested in four minutes as well as rerolling like a madman.
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>>124583857
I think Grohk is super strong because he's so critical to team composition.
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>>124583952
Aye, I don't play much Grokh because I lack the 0.5 legendary, and I don't find his kit very interesting, but a friend of my who's very good believes he's the strongest.

Mentioned how Grokh's scaling wasn't touched much, whereas everyone else's was.

I really hope they revert the scaling along with everything else, right now I understand because there is literally only "Endgame" there is no early game or mid game because the first few sieges might as well not exist.
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>>124584069
"Early game" is getting to level 5.
"Mid game" is when you're leveling again and replacing your cards.
"Late game" is the final push(es) against the vault.

As Krett mentions in his writeup, the game feels like nothing but mid game, and it drags on way too long.
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>>124584181
You can get level 5 in four minutes, and the first few will be easily dispatched even if you're raping the enemy team.

Because level to five is so quick it's very easy to just hold until you're given good card options, I always just reroll till I get what I want now,.

When you've got a good build there's no need to replace your cards, and once you hit a plateau in power you've hit late.
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>>124584348
The first few sieges*
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>>124584348
I don't know what went on in HiRez's thought process when they decided on this alternative scaling.

You hit level 2 within a minute and a half of the match starting, but when you hit level 5 everything slows down massively. How was this supposed to be fun? A lot of people are leveling up in the middle of teamfights because they're retards.
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>>124585401
My only worry right now is that they actually keep the new retarded system.

Another thing which was lost in the muck of this new patch is character scaling. Cassie becoming death late game was fine because she had such a weak early game, with the exception of the life-steal card, but now because everything is late-game every character has to scale the same, removes a lot of depth.
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>>124585401
Because once you hit level 5, gaining level is slower and doesn't really change anything, most of the time you already have the cards you want and a bit more health and damage doesn't really matter that much unless there is a huge level gap between the two team. So after level 5 you don't have any real character progression and nothing as impactful as having one more cards that your opponent,everything stay roughly the same.
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>>124586129
While it doesn't change as much as if you had a card over someone else, but it does change the effective health a siege engine or gate has. If you do more damage faster, even if it's 5% or so, that adds up with every card and would help a whole lot with shortening match times.

It'd also solve the big issue of people complaining about RNG; rerolling crap cards is a blessing but you never get a chance to do it with the level 3 cards and up. My opinion on what level scaling should be like:
>Level up about once every 2 minutes until level 5
>After that level up about once every 2.5 minutes

You'll hit level 5 at the 8 minute mark and then if your game reaches an ungodly 20 minutes you should have a full deck replaced. Earlier if you got fed.
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Reply with email for invite.
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>>124586590
They want the new standard to be 15-20 minutes, so probably they'll speed things up somewhere.
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>>124600623
"[email protected]" thanks in advance dude
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deder than ded
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>>124600623

[email protected]

<3
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>>124600623
[email protected] (throwaway mail I'm sorry)
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>>124604070
I still feel that's a bit long.
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I would appreciate a key.

[email protected]
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>>124618125
So what other modes are there going to be?
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>>124619649
A mode where everyone races to impregnate Cassie.
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>>124619740
Too lewd
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I thought this would just be poor man's Overwatch.

But it's actually bretty decent. If they don't fuck up until release (hirez pls), this could be OW's main competition.
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>>124624067
Especially since Overwatch is now buy-to-play, Paladins jumped on that shit and positioned itself as the free-to-play alternative. On top of that, the game is technically in closed beta, but keys are flying all over the place, and there's no NDA (unlike Gigantic), so it's getting exposure all over the place.
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>>124618125
Disregard this post.

>>124525458
I got a key from this post. Thanks.
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Why the FUCK is the purple stealth bitch allowed to do so much damage?
Seriously, this shit is retarded. Getting your shield popped and then your shit bopped in 5 seconds total by one fucking character as Fernando is not okay.
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>>124625792
B-but she's squishy.
She's an "assassin" so she's allowed to do that much damage while having that much attack speed.
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>>124625924
>Squishy
My fucking ASS
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>>124625970
Please take my post sarcastically.
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>>124625792
This character's damage output is entirely unreasonable.
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>>124625792
>Set time bomb on the point to discourage attackers
>Automatically stealthed, so runs off and loops around to flank while health regen kicks in again
>Built for autos, so she shoots as fast as Ruckus for massive damage
>You cannot safely 1v1 an ambushing Skye, so you need to divert resources to take her down
>If she's caught out, she stealths and fucks off for a minute or two
As mentioned, the main point against her is that she's squishy and should NEVER be in a stand-up fight against anyone. If you catch her, she's screwed, but until then, enjoy her massive damage ambushes.
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>>124626742
I've only seen Skye and Evie carry matches.
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>>124626742
>Massive damage ambushes
What about when the fucking siege cannon rolls up to a gate and the bitch melts the gate in 2 seconds on her own with her massive damage ambushes
Just get fernando to block the gate with his shield guys, gosh, are you dumb
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>>124627727
>tfw Fernando, not a single shield hp card ...
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>>124629131
DPS Fernandos are not welcome.
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>>124625792
Nobody likes fighting invisible burst dps character.

If it takes more than one person to turn around to take them down that means the enemy front line just gets free dps. quickly turning that 5v5 into a 5v4 into a 5v1.
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>>124629946
>Implying DPS Fernando is not absolutely insane
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>>124629946
DPS Fernando can work provided you know how to charge the line and 1v1 people.
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Grokh is pretty shitty and useless without the right cards...
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>>124634332
Everyone is useless if you can't build a good hand for them.
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>>124634332
They need to get rid of that card that spawns totems on enemies you damage.

Fucking a million totems all over the point.
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I kinda like sticky bomber Skye build, it's fun to fly in on my sparkly speed horse and drop a bomb that also poisons them onto squishies.
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