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Christmas Piper Edition

>Vault Dweller's Survival Guide Links
http://pastebin.com/1hN0KRji

>Fallout 4 comprehensive map
https://imgur.com/34sis9V

>Fallout 4 system requirements
http://pastebin.com/nYWLx1VH

>Fallout 4 spoken player names list
http://pastebin.com/2CBz47Y8

>Fallout 4 Item IDs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J9quAMtGK70aptz0t5teqWHGZJ9T9uvJmzNEBJEB36Q/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>Collectible Checklist and Interactive Map
http://fallouttracker.com/#!/

>Character Builders
http://www.nukahub.com/tools/special
http://www.gameplorer.de/fo4/#1

>Fallout 4 Mods Removed from Nexus
http://pastebin.com/2a6ePuTb

>Fallout 3/NV
http://pastebin.com/bAxesvPv

>/aco/ Thread (NSFW goes here)
>>>/aco/fallout

Pre-War Thread: >>124272381
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First for the Institute.
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I want custom companions
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>Not developing 100% organic synths that can reproduce
>not repopulating the commonwealth with Aryans
>Not joining the institute
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>Smaller than skyrim even without skyrims mountain regions

>World feels almost claustrophobic small, ugrids to 24 lets you see sanctuary from the Brotherhood Airship

>Less quests

>Forced Storyline without choices

>Good Guy. Always.

>Replay Value=0, completely dead.

>Skill/Perk system outright downgrade from skyrim, it doesnt get any simpler

>~3 Years until enough mods are out to make this what it should be

>Not a fallout game except the setting and muh radiation

>Voiced character kills Roleplay

>2 Types of Guns, Pipeguns and Energy based weapons

>Melee is worse than skyrim

>Armor makes you look like a plumber

>Female Facegen is a disaster, no Sliders

>Vaults are a massive disappointment and nothing compared to what they used to be in previous games

>massive /v/ermin meme game
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Any update on the GECK release date?
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nth for Space Enclave
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Cyberpunk 2077 is an upcoming action role-playing video game based on the Cyberpunk series of tabletop role-playing games. Announced in 2012, the game is being developed by CD Projekt RED. Cyberpunk 2077 will feature a dystopian futuristic world in which ultra-modern technology co-exists with a degenerated human society.

The game aims to be mature and ambitious, with character customization being strongly tied to the plot. It will have a non-linear story with different character classes. It will have both first-person and third-person perspectives.

Lead writer Sebastian Stępień said the game will have non-player characters speaking in non-English languages. Player characters who don't speak the language will have to buy a translator implant to understand them. Stępień also said they would try to get native speakers to do the voices. Stępień has stated that "You can't reliably recreate the street slang of Los Angeles or some other American city; you can't simply dub it and reproduce those emotions, rhythm of speech, mannerisms... Otherwise we'd simply hear that Polish actors are trying to imitate Americans. That won't work."

In an interview Mike Pondsmith said that the player's customized characters in the game could be used as Cyberpunk 2020 characters.
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xth for cowboys
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>>124283742
nth for wasterlanders
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>>124284159
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>>124284180
>>124284159

fucking reddit. reposts already?
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>>124284130
2016

Probably Q1 or Q2.

But in reality nobody knows when, we only have guesses.
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>>124283661

I use Norderfaludenhagenhaffer Beach and uhhh the Lighthouse.

I used to use Starlight. It's "okay tier". Better used for a huge warehouse than actual building.

I think Sanctuary is absolute garbage. It is the worst settlement and only bad people build anything but a water purifier farm there.

1) Tainted by annoying NPCs if you progress minutemen at all.
2) Ugly buildings that cannot be scrapped and can barely be adequately repaired, limiting design freedom everywhere.
3) Shitty layout and terrain. Open area that is obstructed all over the place.
4) Many objects that cannot even be console disabled and need mods to remove (and they still don't get all of them).
5) Shitty foundations out of alignment with new tilesets.

It is only for reddit faggots who want to show off their same-texture x400 box forts. They are to FO4 what gridders are to city building games.

I don't understand the sanctuary thing.
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>>124283913
>First for the Institute.
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>>124284070
I thought that was an arm tatoo.
>>124284090
Like wise.
Cricket is like Daphne Rose or Sara Jay. There is 0 reason why they're so erotic, but they are.
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So Fallout 4 has 6 guns? Really, Todd? Six guns?

What went so fucking wrong? Were they relying on the shitty crafting gimmick to give "weapon diversity"? Because it failed to do that.
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>>124284261
That's a new screenshot lad. Perhaps you would like to post a screenshot of your own.


Have a (you)
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>>124284324
They confirmed early Q1 2016. It'll be out on or after Jan 21st, but before Feb. 25th.

Cap this post faggots.
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>>124284180
I see you are proud of your cowboy, but its a shit idea to repost it in every thread, /fog/got
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Make a character called Kelvin who mainly uses Flamer/Napalmer and Molotov Cocktails, y/n?
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>>124284373

No, no, that's ignorant. She looks like a crack whore with zero eroticism. Her clothes are probably covered with shit stains and she probably has chronic constipation followed by the runs due to her constant drug injections.
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>>124284302
I don't got a fuckton of good action-y shots.
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>>124284408
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>>124284302
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>>124284408
I was supporting your screenshot because it looks like moonbase alpha, thus the tuuubes reference.

Why so defensive anon?
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>>124284332
>I don't understand the sanctuary thing.
Minecraft fans that only progressed that far. The best locations are on the coast or far south and you have to be above level 8 to get to them.
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>>124284090
>half shaven head

is this the only fucking hair style for nora? why does everyone have that shit
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Someone please make pic related when the creation kit comes out
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>>124284353
Nice try, Arthur. Go cuddle your Sarah daki
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lorefags, waifufags, redditfags, ausfags, bethdrones, osidrones, WIDF, fuck off.
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>The world scales to level around you.
>Actual quests don't
Doing the opening quest for the railroad.
At level 60.
The synths are level 20.
This was a poor choice of actions.
>>124284496
What part of it doesn't make sense don't you understand? I know I SHOULDN'T be, but I hopelessly am.
>tfw no fan art
>Can't draw
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>>124284568
I know who is behind your post.
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>>124284567

But anon, the bolt is on the wrong side. :^)
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>>124284567
Isn't that the Hunting Rifle?
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>no story is ever the same

How can Bethesda lie like this?
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Is there a way to cause or encourage the random events for the level 4 merchants to appear? Or more importantly, are the unique items they offer worth the extra effort?
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>>124284679
business buzzwords bro
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Nora a best
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>load up the game
>for some reason my difficulty doesn't save each time I play so I change it to "Very Hard" as usual
>do the entirety of the silver shroud mission, decide to fix my health and rads
>my health doesn't go up and my rad doesn't go away
>think the game is bugged
>I notice it slowly goes away, ever so slightly
>check difficulty
>survival
Is this supposed to be the hardest mode? I only noticed a difference when it came to rads and healing, what a babby game desu
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>>124284642

Get Scrounger. You find .45, 5.56, .50 and .38 in literally every container and body in the fucking game.

Of course, that's ALL you'll find since the perk is fucking bugged, but god damn do you find a lot of it.
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>>124284104
>>Armor makes you look like a plumber
Wait what?
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/fog/ doesn't really think synths are sentient being right?
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>>124284558
Because the Elegant hairstyle looks too much like Piper, and everyone wants their lawyer milf to somehow turn in to a badass so making them look fucking retarded is their only option.

>HAY GUISE ITS ME ANON
>AND TODAY IM PLAYING NORA THE FEMALE PLAYER CHARACTER IN FALLOUT 4
>NOW I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT NORA IS A LAWYER
>BUT LAWYERS WOULD GET FUCKED IN THE WASTELAND SO IM GOING TO PRETEND SHES A TOTAL BADASS WHO SERVED LIKE 80 TOURS IN THE ANCHORAGE CAMPAIGN IN UNDER 3 YEARS AND WAS LITERALLY THE BEST ASSASSIN EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD
>SHE WAS LIKE SO GOOD THAT EVEN HITLER WAS JEALOUS OF HER KILLCOUNT
>AND SO TO PROPERLY CONVEY THAT MESSAGE IM GOING TO GIVE HER THE ONLY HAIRSTYLE THAT LOOKS LIKE SHES A BADASS AND NOT SOME PRETTY GIRL OR WIGGER. I CANT MAKE HER BALD BECAUSE THAT'S CREEPY, SO I'LL SHAVE HALF HER HAIR INSTEAD BECAUSE THATS PRETTY BADASS, RIGHT?
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>>124284558

Thats not nora you fool, its Fahrenheit

>>124284496
Shes undercover
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>>124284456
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>>124284841
They are
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What do you do with Spectacle Island?

I'm turning mine into a huge settlement that will hopefully be larger than Diamond city. There's a mod on Nexus that allows you to increase the population and another that adds misc items like boats, so it's hopefully going to be very secure and accessible.

What's your largest or most impressive settlement /fog/?
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>>124284392
Six guns? Should be more than that for the base model, no?

- 10mm pistol
- double barrel shotgun
- combat shotgun
- hunting rifle
- laser musket
- laser weapon model
- plasma weapon model
- combat rifle
- assault rifle
- missile launcher
- fat man
- alien blaster
- minigun
- laser minigun
- magnum revolver/snubnose
- pipe guns (putting into one, there are pistol and revolver type)
- cryolator
- institute guns

I think that's more than 6, no? Still a small number, granted, but more than 6. And that's guns only, not including other weapons.

I agree its still miniscule, however. I was hoping for more than 1 base model for a bolt action rifles.
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>>124284771
Nora e ikkje best, Curie e best
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>>124284815

SEENGNG PAIPES
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>>124284841
Would you have mass produced Data from Star Trek anon
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>>124284675
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea

100% MAD

>>124284678
BEST bolt-action

Mosin plebs need not to apply
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>>124284890

I want tumblr to go.
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I want /v/ to leave
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>ALL POPULAR / THREAD PIPER FANART LOOKS NOTHING LIKE PIPER

>PIPERFAGS ETERNALLY BTFO BY THEIR SUPERIOR LACTATION / ROBOT KINK OVERLORDS
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>>124284859
well that doesnt change anything its still the only female hair style i see posted
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>>124284841
Gen 1s and most of the Gen 2s aren't, but the late prototype gen 2s and the gen 3s most certainly are.
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>>124284895

That looks kinda sick. the port looks good, I might have to steal it anon sorry
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>>124284841
they literally have regular human bodies and brains if you saw how they were made. In fact, they even have regular DNA. The main difference is they're sterile and have certain implants in their brain to make them obedient. There are other small differences, but they're 99% human
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HOW
DO
I
STOP THE FUCKING MOUSE LAG

THIS IS DRIVING ME UP THE FUCKING WALL
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>124284921
>one shit armor set has pipes on it
>all armor makes you look like a plumber

Since when to plumbers WEAR pipes?
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>>124284978
Yeah it is pretty over used, idk i havnt look at any female haircuts
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>>124284906
That's three times six, yeah.
I wonder if the next TES will follow the same "let's the make the world empty and have the player do the work for us" thing.
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>>124284968
I want /pol/ to leave
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>>124284771
Yeah, she is. Best at being dead.
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>check prewar feral ghoul body that was holed up in a basement for this entire time
>(15) bottlecaps
>(13) Fusion Cells
Immersion broken
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>>124284679

Sometimes your first radiant minuteman quest will send you somewhere other than Corvega.

This lead to the wildest story ever told.

However, my stealth missile launchers build is the best build in the entire game. It makes handling interiors really fun.
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>>124285012
Gen 3 synths are more akin to test tube babies, rather than robots.
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>>124284842
>changing default nora in any way
>not playing as a weak lawyer with high charisma and luck
>swapping hair to skrillex and playing as coldsteel the heghog

why does this happen
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>>124284610

That would kill the thread.
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>all these nora and piperfags fighting each other
>when they could have nora and piper getting it on with each other
I don't understand you people
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>>124285094

No
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Looking to make a Deckard build.

This is what I've got so far:

>Side with Institute
>10mm Pistol (Until .223 mod comes out)
>No companions
>Detective trenchcoat (The one Valentine gives you)


No idea what his SPECIAL or perks would be though.
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>>124285156

>nate
>playing as a pussy draft-dodger

not even once.
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>>124285012

Even the institute doesn't consider them sentient and they would know.
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>>124285056
Let me break them down for you.

>OMG SHES TOO PRETTY MUH IMMERSION
>OMG SHE LOOKS BLACK EVEN THOUGH I CLEARLY MADE HER [Insert Ethnicity Here]
>OMG BALD
>OMG DRUG ADDICT
>OMG SKRILLEX
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>>124284841
Not yet
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>>124285147
Makes you wonder why they didn't just produce test tube babies and put electric shock collars or implants in them.
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Kill all waifus.
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>>124285192
>Implying pre-war milf queen would even breathe the same air as dirty old tranny kiker
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>>124284672
Where is the minutemen version?
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>>124285135
>hmm, a cramped area with long narrow hallways.
Do I use my Musket, that takes a long to to fully reload, making each missed shot that much more painful?
>Or do I use my melee weapon, letting my enemies come to me, and cutting them down as they're grouped together.
>Or do I use this Goddamn naval cannon that I carry around that makes nice fresh tender mirelurk meat?

Goddamn I love the Broadsider, fuck the haters.
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>>124285087
What do you mean? 18 is still more than what you claimed (6). I do not disagree with you at all, I personally want more gun model (thought todd said there are 75 base weapon model, but i guess thats spread between melee and guns), still too little to my liking.

Next TES is going to have less weapons, i mean come on: swords, longer swords, shorter swords, knives, daggers, bows, poles, shields, axe..What else?

Oh I forgot:
- flamer
- deliverer model (not really much customization)
- gauss rifle
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>>124284906
You even forgot a few
>gauss
>Deliverer
>junk jet
>flamer
>flare gun (questionable)
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>>124285321
>Where is the minutemen version?
The drawfag who promised making it pussyfooted out of course as expected and dumped an unfinished version like 20 threads ago.
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>>124285239
Institute scientists are constantly arguing if they're sentient or not, and even if they have a soul. They don't know shit, as it made the gen 3 synths out of human DNA.

The only scientists arguing they aren't sentient are the ones rationalizing using slaves and trying to hide away their guilt


If Mr. Handy units or a fucking assaultron is sentient in the fallout universe, then for sure gen 3s are.

Also, why wouldn't they? They have regular human brains.
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>>124285012
>they literally have regular human bodies and brains

I want this meme to stop. They. Are. Not. Human. They're synthetic from the cells up, they're manufactured to imitate and exceed the capabilities of the human body, they're not vat-grown humans with implants.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cell
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>>124285238
>>124285156
>Not playing nate as an action hero guy with auto weapons and rifles plus power armor
>Not playing nora as a high cha support character with stealth
>Instead we have to chose one

All they had to do is leave both alive, and have you use one as the PC and the other one as a companion, nora has good cha and luck and talking skills and nate has good str agi and fighting skills.
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>>124285130
>piperfags still resorting to this stale arguement.
Can't wait till the spouse companion DLC comes out.
Piperfags anal devesation will be better than the bloodeborne fags on /v/ after not winning GOTY last night.
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The mods left in the inventory tab, are ones that are not attached to any weapon, yes? Wanted to make sure that by dumping them into a tool box, that I wasn't going to rip anything off my guns.
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>>124284906

>combat rifle
>assault rifle
>laser rifle
>institute rifle
>pipe rifle

These are all the same gun with slightly different stats.

If you're going to try to argue that the AR doing slightly more damage than the CR makes it a totally different gun, you might as well say .38, .308 and .50 hunting rifles are all totally different weapons. Throw in all the different enchants and suddenly the hunting rifle now counts as 60 different guns.

It's the same shit as Borderlands but with that classic Bethesda laziness rubbed into the mix. You've got a dozen base guns that have extremely minor stat differences, and only half of those guns are even worth using if you're lucky, but hey let's go ahead and advertise that the game has a gigozillion guns.

You can make that argument, if you want; I won't stop you, but is that really the road you want to go down
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>>124285238
>draft dodger
>he was in the anchorage campaign during the worst parts
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How stupid is the average fallout 4 player?

This stupid.
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>>124285414
>If Mr. Handy units or a fucking assaultron is sentient in the fallout universe

But they're not either.
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>>124285394
>>124285351
True, thank you. There's more too:
- broadsider
- syringe gun (probably can be classified as pipe guns)
- railway rifle
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>>124284842
>>124284558
Anchorage hairstyle is better tbqh.
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>>124284227
DON'T TARGET THE LOLIS
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>>124285351
Todd said 50 base weapons
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>>124285513
Fallout Bible says they are, if that's still canon
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Not being funny but I would've the institute loose ending that you drag your son out of his bed, travel to Vault 111 force him to look at his dead mother, make him apologize then shoot him in the back of the head
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>>124285474
They're not attached, no, so feel free to store them

Can make a fair amount of dosh by stripping a shiny gun of its parts and selling them separate, rather than selling the whole gun
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Who is the best dialogue wise to bring to Vault 81?
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>>124285479
He was speaking purely from weapon model, nothing about stats.

If you're going to argue about stats then there's only one melee/unarmed weapon, and only one gun because they all function exactly the same fucking way, just with slightly different stats.
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>>124285532
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>>124285479
>all the same gun with different stats
So NV had like 6 guns then with that amazing logic.
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>>124285283
It'd be counter-productive; having to grow, raise and condition them from infancy would take far too long. So they 3D print them, and install control modules in their heads to keep them in check.
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>>124285479
Um, I'm not arguing that it is a totally different gun. I'm putting it there that they have a different gun MODEL.
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>>124285459
That's exactly how my 2 characters are, default Nate with beard in power armor and heavy weps, and default Nora with melee and pistols

You nailed it, anon
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>people arguing if synths are sentient
You realize of course everything in the game points to the fact that they are, and only some institute scientists and father thinks they're not. That's the main premise for you to destroy the institute; that they're evil enough to suggest they're not sentient, it's an allegory to people who owned black slaves saying "they wouldn't be able to do anything else anyways".
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>>124285351
I mean that I was wrong about only six guns, but 18 or 21 is still a really small number considering the weapons in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

I miss the guns from New Vegas, the ones in Fallout 4 look too shitty, overdesigned, and are small in number.
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>>124285554

Just searched through my copy and didn't see it. Source?
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>>124285663
They have been drinking the BoS and institute kool-aid
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>>124285479
>multiple semiautomatic guns only count as one
Kill yourself, by this logic there are only like 8 different guns irl.
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Fun poll for curiosity sake.
Please vote if you have the time!
http://strawpoll.me/6175248
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>>124285554
Mr. Handy is a programmed personality, like The Sink in Old World Blues.
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>>124285663
>everything in the game points to the fact that they are

Like what? Them seeming like people?

Robots designed to infiltrate settlements and replace humans are acting a lot like humans? Or is there something more?
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>>124285130
>something something he posted it again

No but seriously, think of something new or just stop posting.

All of this Piper fanart you idiots set as the thread image looks nothing like the in-game jewstress, she is the funnelling point of tumblrina projections
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>>124285663
implying slavery wasn't the literal best thing for niggers
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Does anyone else think that this games biggest flaw is that you've already seen everything like 20 hours into it? I just feel no incentive to play anymore. What I do has barely any effect on the world.. I've seen all of the enemies.. I've seen most of the guns.. Why go on? The only way you can get away with revealing everything that early, is by having great writing.. And FO4 sure as hell doesn't have that.

This game needed more missions like the tenpenny tower/ghoul thing in FO3. Missions that actually make you feel like you can make a change in the world.. FO4 just doesn't do that for me. I feel like I'm just aimlessly drifting around...Going through the same events that everyone else is going through without being able to add my own personality to the world.

Bethesda really fucked up man. The biggest allure of their games was that the world could change based on your decisions. They've completely fucked up the best part of their games. I'm going to go play the witcher now :(
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>>124285554
Fallout Bible is not canon. RIP.
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>>124284975
Shortly afterwards Nora began screaming in pain.

Once again, her legs were burned by the fucking rocket engine underneath Codsworth.

"Looks like another trip to the hospital" she said

"I've already called ahead, mum"
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>>124285668
And I'm agreeing with you, anon. I just listed the gun model for my own fun moreso than to prove you're wrong.

Even if the base model is 50 or 75, its still pretty small in terms of number (look at my pet peeve about having only ONE bolt action rifle).

creation kit should come very soon, then we have modders like millenia adding more base weapon models to make it a lot more exciting.

Remember when FOOK for FO3 came out and people are reexploring the game again looking for different guns, even uniques are looking, well, unique.
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>>124285428
Except their DNA and vitals are indistinguishable from any natural-born human being, and the latter only applies to Coursers (who were genetically engineered to be unstoppable killing machines).

They're physiologically indistinguishable from human beings. For all intents and purposes, they are human.
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>>124285789
Super Mutants because they have no reason to be in Boston.
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>>124285663
It's really just Father and a handful of Institute scientists, not even the whole Institute.

The main thing almost the entire Institute agrees on that is (at least partly) wrong is that the wasteland is a horrible, utterly unlivable, irredeemable hellhole. The player character is living proof of that, a pre-war individual dropped into it who survives and even thrives, spreading pre-war ideals via the reformation of the Minutemen.
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>>124284610
Only WitcherFags should be in Fallout General.
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Companion AI needs a complete overhaul. It's idiotic really, all they are is a meatshield.
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>>124285858
Fallout 4 suffers from the same thing Skyrim did.
five hours in, you've done basically all of the unique stuff, and after that it's just retreading that first five hours.
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>>124285829
You mad, bro?
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>>124285821
You realize the institute isn't even able to program away their free will? That's how sentient they are, that they can literally overgo programming to escape and run off.

The Institute don't fully understand their own creation, hence why they're constantly arguing about it if you listen in. One scientist argued they had a soul because they're sentient, and that scientist also was involved in making them. While another from the same department argued they were as robotic as a computer terminal.
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>>124285931

So pretty much any game?
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>>124285596
Yes yes we know, you can fuck off now
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>>124285917
>living proof of that
Just realised this is kind of unclear, I mean living proof that the Institute is wrong.

>>124285919
I think that's what WIDF is. Witcher Internet Defence Force. He might as well just say he wants anons, tripfags and namefags to leave.
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>>124285991
>being this triggered
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>>124285991
lol
Tripfag triggered
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>>124285330

Try running what I am doing. Stealth + Broadsider + Quad Barrel Missile Launcher.

Missile Launcher is used as basically a sniper rifle or for clearing rooms. Broadsider is used for assault. Explosives + Big Guns stack on both for damage. It's retardedly good.

I have used big guns the entire game, but with Broadsider and Missile Launcher I feel like I have basically a stronger stealth sniper build, with way better options for "Not dealing with shit".

When I don't feel like dealing with shit I can either carpet bomb it with ridiculous fatman damage or can bombard all windows/areas with scoped missiles. They are even better than a sniper rifle since they can go around corners/cover.
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>>124285909
It's like you don't want DLC where you play as a super mutant, with every single quest just being KILL LOOT RETURN.
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>>124285537
Wastelanders the best.

>>124285873
>"I've already called ahead, mum"
I can imagine Codsworth saying that in his posh voice.
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>>124286123
>with every single quest just being KILL LOOT RETURN
I thought that's what we already had though?
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>>124285942
>tumblr filename
>looks nothing like piper
>skin 20 shades lighter than the tribal in-game representation

not sure if you're terminally autistic or this is just shit bait, either way kill yourself lol
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>>124286123
So just a Super Mutant skin then?
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>>124286090
Sorry, Missile Launcher doesn't really fit in with my character, but I do love finding another Broadsider lover.
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>>124285991
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>>124285894
Generation 3 synths are stated as being upgradable, you can alter their minds with software patches, they don't need to sleep, eat or drink.

>Except their DNA and vitals are indistinguishable from any natural-born human being

Nowhere is that stated, you're making shit up. They're VISUALLY indistinguishable from humans in that they bleed and sweat, not absolutely identical otherwise they'd not be able to do anything humans can't, The Institute would need to feed and water them, they'd need to sleep and be protected from radiation i.e. developing Generation 3 synths would have been pointless.

Generation 3 synths are bio-mechanical, they're created using synthetic biology technology. People are just skimming over the dialogue and when Shaun explains they used his genetic code to design the Gen Threes, assume they mean they just cloned him and tweaked some stuff.
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>>124285991
tripfag detected
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>>124285991
how do we even know if they REALLY wrote that.
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>>124285560
I don't see why he'd need to apologize when he had nothing to do with it and deliberately put the killer in a place you could easily reach and planted bait to lead you to him.
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>>124285952

Is this "they have a totally human brain" meme supported by the game?

If it's true then how the hell can they upload a Ms. Handy program into them? Does that mean Curie could have been uploaded into any human in a vegetative state too? Or does it mean there's a pretty major difference between human and synth brains?
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>>124283742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03HYHKhrfMM

Will electronic music ever be popular in Fallout?

Even if it's just some raider tossers listening to it high as fuck on psycho jet.
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>>124285873
little does he know Nora not only enjoys lactation, but severe third degree ass burning too
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>>124286210

It's a great gun. Also the width of the projectile does not appear to be factored in, fully, in vats. Thus a lot of my "misses" end up hitting anyways. Cannonball is huge.

I don't know who would not help the robots, but I wish a curse upon their house. Damn you, Weatherby Savings and Loans! Curse your dark hearts!
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>>124285894
>the latter only applies to Coursers (who were genetically engineered to be unstoppable killing machines).
Not that guy, but that's wrong.

Coursers are selected from regular Gen 3s when they show a distinct lack of personality and free will and show a great attention to detail and do anything they can to get the job done quickly and efficiently.

Then they begin training the selected candidates and those who can't keep up have their memories wiped and are sent back to their original task. Those that pass are promoted to Courser and need to keep passing regular tests to prove that they are still Courser material. The second they question orders, give an excuse, or show any hint of free will, they are memory wiped and sent back to their original task.

Read the terminals, dude. One of the main reasons why the institute hates McDonough and continues to let Piper expose him despite his pleas to have her terminated boil down to him having too much free will and personality during a checkup where he asked to be made a courser because he's so great at his current job.
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>>124285789
Humans are the worst race by far. How retarded are they that they couldn't rebuild a single functional city in a 210 year span. It should be so easy to maintain a settlement then just grow it bigger and bigger until the entire world is civilized again. If african tribesmen can go from jungle swingers to car drivers in a few decades, then the fallout people should be able to too.
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>>124286236

My nigga
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>>124286336
if it wasn't around/popular in the 50s, probably not, there's something mentioned about culture stagnating after the world became a sci-fi utopia
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>>124286184
Don't hate, anon.
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>>124286305
It probably would have helped if there wasn't like 30 Institute synths backing Kellogg up though.
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>>124286328
You could literally hook up kellogg who's just an augmented human, into a synth, because of a small inoriganic component. Suffice to say it's not a leap to do it the other way around given that component is there.
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What's the optimal weapon for Settlers? High ROF autos as they can't aim for shit? Or high DMG ones with improved Accuracy?
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>>124286454
It is a shame the nuclear war actually stopped all art and music movements dead in the ground.

Pickman the only exception in Fallout 4 who still creates new art. Post war one.
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Is the last level of the big league perk confirmed to be bugged (as in not giving the double damage?)

Is there any workaround for this if this is true?
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>>124286426
No you dumb shit, the planet is dead and void of natural resources. You don't simply "build a city and let it grow"
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>>124286580
I saw a Provisioner rape a pack of supermutants with a minigun so I'm inclined to say the former.

I didn't even give her that minigun, no clue where she got it.
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I finally fixed Piper after fiddling with showlooksmenu

Swapping the hairstyle and skin color takes longer than you'd think
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Who is Valdez?
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I didn't even like Witcher 3 (though I admit that it is a pretty good game), but this is what Fallout fans are now.
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>>124286591
>Those titties
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>>124286236
People need to read the terminals in the Institute instead of just blowing it up and high-fiving their BoS/RR buddies on killing the nasty 'slavers'.

3rd gen synths are still machines, they're just really advanced ones and idiot wastelanders can't tell the difference.
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>>124286328
Actually, Curie and Dr. Amari explain just that.

Yes, it would be possible to upload her in to a human brain, however the issue lies with having a proper interface to download in to, and Synths have that built in to their brain.
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>>124286657
K
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>>124286236
>they don't need to sleep, eat or drink.
Except they do, you can find them doing any of those things in the Institute, or in your settlements. Curie remarks about how not doing any of these things could potentially kill her. I once encountered the physician at the Institute giving one a shot, then lamenting about not being able to cure the common cold. Also, Stimpaks work on them, meaning they must have an immune system that is comparable to a normal human.

>Nowhere is that stated, you're making shit up.
Danse's quest pretty much spells that out. He was able to join the Brotherhood, passing countless physical examinations and genetic screen testing and they never knew he was a Synth.
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>>124286560

Just seemed like a memory storage device to me.
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>>124286657
The oceans want their salt back, god damn.
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>>124286639
I decided to swap her skin color back to the default, what do you guys think?
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>>124286521
Come back when you have accurate pictures of the shitty nora replaement that is piper
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CBBE for Fallout 4 is out, Fuck yes!
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He's right
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>>124286792
Yep. This is all true but then the dude in Robotics who pretty much designed them says that they don't need sleep or food and can't get sick.

So what the fuck really.
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>>124286751

Well then that's full on retarded.
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>>124286654

It was a boat in FO2.

Kellogg shot it. He's a cereal killer.
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>>124286629
If it were void of natural resources, then none of the humans would be able to survive that are currently alive. All we know is there's at LEAST enough resources to have kept the current population alive, and we can see that most of the necessary resources for survival (water, food) is easily made in settlements. Also, if only 1% of the population survived or less, that means there's not only an abundance of resources, but it's too much to use up. Hell, 210 years later and none of the cars or buildings have been salvaged yet.
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>>124286328
As the doctor literally says in the quest you can't edit a normal human brain like that and a human brain can't handle machine code anyway. Since Synths are biomechanical and set up for memory editing so they can be used as sleeper agents there was a chance CVRIE's highly modified and partially self-developed Ms. Nanny software would work in a Gen3 chassis. It did, but it's still unknown if a factory fresh model or even a buggy one like Codsworth or Ironsides would work.
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>>124286834
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WHOLE PLACE IS RUN BY
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>>124286663
Japan has a surprisingly well developed Fallout community despite the censorship.
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>>124284104
>Good Guy. Always
Well you're sure wrong there, nigga
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>>124286657
>Fallout 4
>True Gamers
I think this moron head would explode if he looked to something like DF or Aurora.
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>>124286601
It isn't double damage per se, it's an additional .2 damage modifier.
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>>124286939
>not cumming inside them both
>not giving them Shauns
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>>124286915
They are organic machines.
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>>124286657
I don't think TW3 should have won GOTY either, but damn is that dude salty.

Look at some of the other winners from last night. It's obvious the jury took some form of bribe.

I can't take ruling seriously that would say Laura Croft GO is a good game by any stretch.
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>>124286878
My guess is this is either Bethesda's laziness, or the Robotics guy just being a pompous asshole.

Frankly it all isn't fairly consistent.
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>>124286601
it works properly, the display is bugged for rank 5. you still get grand slams and cleaving attacks. there's a fix on nexus.

>>124286591
Magnolia's writing her own songs, too. I don't remember if the lonesome drifter or agatha did, but I want more post-war music in these games. Only so much royalty free 50s music they can squeeze out of that era, they need to start writing some good wasteland songs for these games.
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>synths are so humanlike you guys
>say robotic things like 'calculating best method of attack'
>meanwhile robots act basically human
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>>124287002
>even being in the same room as piper

the thought of it makes me physically ill
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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3276/?
What the fuck is the point?
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>>124287002

Why would anyone want to impregnate that pear-shaped horse monster?
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>>124286657

>the game about life after the end of the world cannot in any way be negative or depressing

yeah that explains a good deal of everything wrong with fallout 4.
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>>124286939
is piper really that fat compared to the player? that vault suit really shows her fat, ugh
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>>124286954
>tfw Japanese artists make the best Fallout-related drawings
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>>124286657
>Witcher 3 is SJW/LGBT infomercial
Holy fucking what.
>Fallout 4 CRUSHES witcher 3 in the game play department
Is he even serious.
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>>124287097
I see the point.

>bethesda is so poor making their own music and royalty fees are neither an option
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>>124287101
you mean the different robots to the ones everyone's talking about?
because only the gen 1/2 synths do that and nobody's trying to claim they're human
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>>124286910
Not sure if you noticed but the remaining population is literally fighting over whatever survived the war, fallout and the great winter. There is no resources.
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>>124287101
drinking buddy is the realist nigga out there handing out free beer and telling mad jokes and all the synths speak in some weird outlandish tone ad go beep boop
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>>124286536
You may not have noticed but Father is a pencil-necked dweeb that outside of a few instances takes too soft of a hand with the department heads. He needed to make Kellogg's death look good and not like he was throwing away a valuable and heavily invested asset over personal feelings to keep their confidence.
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>>124287095

Lets be real here. Bethesda wanted "are synths people" to be the big moral question, and to do that they had to make it somewhat ambiguous.

And since they don't give a shit, they just added nonsensical and contradictory shit without thinking.

So, as always, FUCK YOU TODD
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>>124287196
that's edited
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>>124286657
As mas as Radovid is, he and what he wants to do for Temeria makes more sense than what Father and The Institute have done to the Commonwealth.
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>>124287101
>What are differences between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gen synths
The difference between a 2nd and 3rd is like that of an Apple II to a modern day high end gaming rig.
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>>124287196
I'd pee in her butt
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>>124287097
Do you by any chance know the name of the mod/fix on nexus? I tried searching for league but came up with none. Big only lead me to big breast bigger guns, etc.
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>>124287003
Just like humans.
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>>124287198
Indeed they do

>>124286657
There was a little too much kuckolding in TW3 too be honest.

Literally all of the Red / Bloody Baron

Then that guy in the DLC, I think it was, some dude on a roof who wants to blow himself up with gunpowder.

Weird game.
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>>124287002
>not being loyal to your pure pre-war milf
>not preserving traditonal pre war marriage and values
>not making america great again
Your post is not enclave approved
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>>124287314
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2142/?
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>>124287196
Yeah, I think they gave her a trench coat to hide it from us while simultaneously keeping tumblr happy with the body acceptance thing
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>>124286657
>this whole post
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>>124286881
No it's not.

They COULD have put her in a braindead human, except they didn't have any readily available and the synth component needed to interface with the brain to allow the downloading of one's consciousness is extremely hard to come by because coursers are hard to kill and when they are killed, usually their head being exploded is what kills them. Tinker Tom also tells you that removing a synth component and then attempting to break through the failsafes is extremely dangerous and will most likely result in the device breaking.

The reason why Curie was able to be put in a body is because the Railroad had one lying around after the memory wipe failed. It's also pretty heavily hinted that Glory was in love with Curie's Host.
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>>124287267
>kill father
>he gives you synth Shaun

such a terrible attempt to make you feel bad after all
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>>124287286

Which is weird. They went from shitty robot, to slightly less shitty robot, to lab grown bio-mechanical android that's nearly indistinguishable from a human. With only Nick inbetween.
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>>124287397
yea, thank fuck i can edit her in showlooksmenu and get rid of that fat "muh curvy" umtblr shit
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>>124286591
>>124286663
>caring about those titties
>as she's dipping her gun delicately into the water
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>>124287380
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2142/?
Wow, more fixes than I thought possible. Thank you, anon!
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>>124287196
I think the OP fattened her up to spite Piperfags a bit but it still shows regardless
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>>124287535
I'm not a /k/unt.
I only care about titties.
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>>124287357
>There was a little too much kuckolding
It's funny how that wouldn't even be an issue if 4chan wasn't in their LMAO KUCK XD phase then.
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>>124287359
>pure pre-war milf
>implying she didn't sleep around in college or while Nate was off on his Campaign (hint, look in to how many army wives end up cheating on their husbands while they are deployed)
>implying Piper isn't the purest and most loyal waifu ever
>Implying you can't make america great with Piper
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>>124286090
>Broadsider
Isn't it impossible to find ammo for this?
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>>124287605

her head is tiny.
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>>124287210
>>124287286
Even 3rd gen synths like X6-88 have more robotic personalities than actual robots unless you say being autistic is a requirement for being a coarser.
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>>124286792
>"The list of improvements is exhaustive. I can talk for an hour and still not cover all of it. Imagine what you could accomplish if you could live without fear of hunger or disease. Imagine what you could create if you could use every waking moment of your life as you saw fit, with no need of sleep?" - Max Loken (Robotics Division) when asked about Gen3 synth (not Coursers) improvements over baseline humanity

Go read the terminals as well. Gen3's CAN eat but don't HAVE to eat. They're immune to disease and radiation. Them having a human loot table doesn't change the lore.

>passing countless physical examinations and genetic screen testing

Lewl, you mean the standard three to five questionaire the medic gives you when you join? Oh shit, how did a synth ever pass such an exhaustive medical examination!?

The BoS has fuck all medical technology, the medical tech in the Citadel in Fo3 consisted of a malfunctioning Mr. Handy, Mr. House makes fun of them in NV for having no interest in 'saving technology' when it comes to auto-docs and artificial organs.

I get that you're dedicated to the Railroad's view that they're basically just enslaved humans grown in a vat but it's not true in the lore, that's just what the RR THINKS is the truth. The reality is that the synths ARE machines, whether or not they have true sapience, they are definately not human or even truely organic, they're still synthetic creatures.

>Why do Gen 3 synths like to eat Fancy Lads Snack Cakes? I mean, sure, they have the capacity to experience taste. Every Gen 3 possesses the SYNTHETIC EQUIVILENT of the requisite receptor cells. But why this? And why all of them? - Institute Terminal, my caps

>Good thing it's physically impossible for a Gen 3 to actually gain weight and succumb to obesity. - Institute Terminal

TL;DR - Generation 3 synths aren't 'humans with implants'. Read the terminals and talk to the scientists in-game.
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>>124287513

Meanwhile, bumping into those while wearing power armor causes them to break in half.
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>>124287617
>implying Piper isn't the purest and most loyal waifu ever
You're forgetting someone.
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>>124287618
Once Ironsides gives you it, vendors that sell ammo start sellimg cannonballs
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>>124287647
hate women with large man shoulders too
beth really had to appeal to the sjw tumblr crowd by making fat ugly disfigured bodies and large shoulders/fucked up head sizes
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>>124286635
Probably found it on a Super Mutant corpse who died in a random encounter. BTW I went w/ the high ROF route from the get go but I'm looking forward for alternatives - any other experiences to share regarding weapon selection for Settlers?
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>>124287476
>No it's not.

It certainly is.

Being able to upload a Ms. Handy onto a human brain with a synth component is some silly ass shit.

If it didn't make a waifu more people would be saying that.
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>>124287651
Actually apparently that's the main requirement. see >>124286401
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>>124287612
>implying the DLC didn't feature it because one of the CD Project Red devs is a secret 4chan tard

Too much tinfoil hatting on my end?
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>>124287651
>being autistic is a requirement for being a coarser.

It kind of is, desusenpai. Smart and adaptable as well, but also pretty autistic
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>>124287487
It completely contradicts Shaun's opinions and personality the entire game. I was downright mortified when they pulled that shit.
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/fog/, if you guys need some RPG to play after being disappointed with Fallout 4, you should try Way of the Samurai 4.
The map is small, but has a shit ton of replayability (10 endings, plus things you unlock after beating the game and doing specific things) and your choices matter.

Just a tip, in case you didn't play this yet.
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welp, since flowey just guilted me out out of playing undertale again looks like i gotta play fallout

which of my characters should i play to completion? ive been jumping around too much

energy weps housewife who's with the brotherhood but starting the railroad missions

solid snake who just saw the prydwen without having contacted the bos yet

imperator furiosa who's basically just started
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>>124287656
>"The list of improvements is exhaustive. I can talk for an hour and still not cover all of it. Imagine what you could accomplish if you could live without fear of hunger or disease. Imagine what you could create if you could use every waking moment of your life as you saw fit, with no need of sleep?" - Max Loken (Robotics Division) when asked about Gen3 synth (not Coursers) improvements over baseline humanity
Then why the fuck do the Synth that know they're Synth (see RR, Curie) talk about needing sleep or being hungry. Why the fuck does a Synth need a flu shot or whatever.

Did anyone actually cross-check the "lore" together when they were writing it to keep it coherent or they just kinda tossed it all into one pot and gave it a big swirl and called it done?
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>>124287732
Those mods that make the laser rifles fully automatic are crazy. Remember that NPCs are immune to recoil when firing their weapons they always stay on point.
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>>124287114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN3iZb4BNVM

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPRIIk3jEE

and also the fact that you REALLY have to be a shitter to cause both of the above to happen. Also, if they leave your service because they hate you and you tell them to fuck off, they lose their essential NPC tag and you can kill them, as shown in the video.
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>>124287773
>using her enormous tits to hold her gun

lol
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Considering how popular the meme has gotten, has anyone made Todd Howard in Fallout 4?
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>>124287856
>Remember that NPCs are immune to recoil
who the FUCK thought this was okay?
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>>124287854
>Did anyone actually cross-check the "lore" together when they were writing it to keep it coherent or they just kinda tossed it all into one pot and gave it a big swirl and called it done?

Of course not, you just jam it all in and it. JUST. WORKS.
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