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Hoping to find out what broke during maintenance edition
>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
The Templeshooter from the quest in the tomb can also drop his card, rite?
>>124046257
I have yet to see a templeshooter or canceril or cerberus anywhere but as a world boss.
>>124046257
the quest tomb doesnt drop a temple shooter
>>124046330
I think Cerberus card can drop from the 190 dungeon since someone in my party got one or maybe they tricked me
Anyone else regret taking weapon swap?
I almost never use it.
>>124046409
I use it, no regrets. I'll give you the 100 silver that you're regretting if you like
>>124046508
what about the minute it takes to train it? how are you going to give me one minute of my life back fgt?
Up to what level do I get in the 130 dungeon? Also, anybody want to do a full run?
I have a pelta > barb at lvl 50 on Gabija, if anyone wants to run the 50 dungeon?
Best skill per Class: Wizard edition.
>Wizard
Quickcast.
>Pyromancer
Flame Ground.
>Cryomancer
Frost Pillar.
>Psychokino
Psychic Pressure.
>Linker
Joint Penalty.
>Elementalist
Frost Cloud.
>Thaumaturge
Swell Left Army.
>Sorcerer
Summon Temple Shooter.
>Chronomancer
Haste.
>Alchemist
Item Awakening.
>Necromancer
Create Shoggoth.
Deal with it.
>>124046508
It just bothers me that the icon is there. It gets in the way sometimes. When they gonna let us rotate the camera? I mean why would they lock the camera AND make walls on all sides. At least if the camera were going to be locked, they could make lazy areas and save some memory.
>>124046409
>>124046508
You can widen the chatbox through the xml but with the weapon swap box in the way, it becomes unsightly.
Reminder that Quarrel is love
Classes that /tosg/ thinks they're good but they're actually memes
1. Druid
2. Corsair
3. Sapper
4. Elementalist
>>124047116
What are the classes /tosg/ thinks are bad, but are actually pretty decent or good?
Cata's can Guard while moving?
>>124047194
hunter
bokor
rodelero
quarrel shooter
>>124047116
nobody actually thinks druid is good but it's the only path for int clerics
>>124047116
Corsair is bad?
>>124047116
Rogue
Archer3
>>124046703
>wizard
>not EQ
since when does quickcast do 10k dmg?
>>124046640
everyday til 150
>>124047807
>Rogue
dumass
Reminder to not fall for these memes:
>full dex builds
>str/int is the worst stat in the game
>memelander
>sword2/3
>quarrel shooter
>wizard2/3
>cataphract
>archers and mages don't become any better late game
>full spr mages
>full con swordies
>save ALL your cards until 165
>muh 500 level cap
>full spr archer
>swordsman class is op
>elem needs wiz3
>archer3
>>124047678
More cleric or krivis circles instead of druid
>>124047084
I am going to bully you and there is nothing your Privis or your Stones can do to stop me
did anyone manage to train the Bokor's Large zombie attribute and see how much better are the large zombies?
>>124047084
>max caltrops
>stone picking level 4
???
Klaipeda is letting "refugees" in too?
>>124048505
He's seen some shit
>>124048505
klaipeda is lithuania and lithuania is europe, so...
also, tell me the trick to get better upgrades. i've people using fireballs, multishot and other skills to hit the anvil and before the beta was that word of "gear upgrade will takes skill".
Shaton Reservoir to get to demon dicks 2: electric grindalu right?
Hey QS is actually pretty solid
How long till it falls off?
>>124048179
I never know what you mean by
>muh 500 level cap
>>124048726
Yep, DP is at the top
>>124048317
>Other classes begging thaums for swell arm buffs.gif
>>124049031
ohwait thats the DP map, but the two big maps on the left and the map on the bottom right, run back and forth between them for maximum efficiency
>mfw playing through an alt and realising that hauberk was ALSO trapped in the mage tower this whole fucking time being used as a barrier
>you set him free only to use him as another barrier for the prison
>>124049279
Haubrek did nothing wrong
>>124046760
You can probably remove the icon with some not-really-advanced-hotkey-fuckery.
>>124049279
He wasn't trapped in anything, his whole soul was spread over the entire planet. Just part of him was used to make the mage tower.
Also what was the mage tower even trying to acheive except being the most evil place on the planet? Founded with demon magic, powered by a demon's broken soul, and apparently the creator made a deal with that demon that kept invading the tower and got killed for it.
>>124048435
you need to play quarrel shooter to actually understand
>>124049785
so caltrops are good? they look shit
>>124048836
There are idiots that try justifying bad builds by saying that the level cap will be 500 when the game releases and assuming stuff they don't know (what rank 7 classes and skill actually do, etc). When in reality we are only gonna get something like level 300~350 and rank 7~8, with more updates coming out as the game gets older.
>>124047807
the archer 3 is debatable though you get your best skill at circle2 does a couple more hits with multi shot worth it?
>>124049848
every other skill is too awful to level
>>124050063
>bokor
I hate bokors and their fucking zombies.
>>124046760
>>124049584<HotKey ID="HideSwap" Name="Hide Swap" DownScp='ui.GetFrame("weaponswap"):ShowWindow(0)' UpScp="None" Key="F1" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="YES" />
Potentially the worst possible way to do it, but hey, this does hide the swap frame.
>>124049678
Wasn't Gabija trapped in the tower until you release her?
>>124050431
Trapped? hardly, she was just chilling lazily at the top masturbating until you summoned her.
>>124049678
>Also what was the mage tower even trying to acheive except being the most evil place on the planet?
Come on, it wasn't that bad. It had an invading demon lord who took up control of the tower, some poor sap challenged the tower and got killed by the demon lord, a fragment of Hauberk's soul ended up imprisoned in a lamp and the place is filled with Chromadogs. But really, it could be so much worse
>>124048802
It falls off to a cliff really fast
How do I get to the other side of the Main Chamber?
>>124050431
Good question. I don't know. At some point,Gabija was called to the tower, and at some point around then or just before, the tower's ageless mage creator was killed by that demo and Gabija took over the tower.
She was willfully leading it, and some book you can read in the piles of books lying about stated the barriers and seals and stuff in the tower weren't actually trapping Gabija there, so it was unclear what they were for.
I think the demon's barriers at the end were sealing her in there, but for the most part >>124050489
She was managing the tower and trying to stop it from being invaded by demons for whatever the fuck reason. I guess she was using it as a hideout to protect the revelation she was guarding.
>some poor sap challenged the tower and got killed by the demon lord
He was killed by the mage who built it, and she left a message about it to warn other people. I really, really don't understand what she and that "traitor" swordsman were trying to acheive. Maybe they learned the truth about the demons and gods' relationships.
>>124050925
You'll get there by going outside and around and following the quests if you mean the grand corridor. If you mean the actual main chamber, just follow the big crack around its left side.
>>124051108
Oh yeah, that. Thanks, I thought I missed some three quests or something
Reminder to pick and choose which tents you enter.
>>124050231
>>124050063
>>124050063
pls am only poor c1 bokor with 15k to my name
>>124051659
Yeah, you're a special one
>>124046703
Ill do Cleric then.
>Cleric
Heal
>priest
Sacrement
>krivis
Zaibus
>dievderby
Laima Statue
>Paladin
Smite
>bokor
bwa kyamin
>sadhu
Possession
>monk
Double punch
>Pardoner
Oblation
>Druid
Transform
>Oracle
Change
>join party
>there's only one boy in it
>>124052152
>>Druid
>Transform
It's Carnivory. Transform is shit.
The archer tree is probably the most unbalanced broken class balance atm so I won't be surprised if we suddenly get a nerf.
How do you inspect someone offline again?
>>124051108
Oh yeah, now I remember you also had to get some power gem made to power her up a bit too. So basically Grita called you to go bring Gabija a magical sandwich because she was tired of fighting demons all day.
Also I meant to quote >>124050590 on the 4th part back there.
>>124046408
Can get both of the boss cards in 190 dungeon from the box
>>124051108
The mage pretty much became a demon through the dubious contract. That's who Archmage Fire Lord is
>>124052686
Does it say that somewhere? They story sort of makes it sound like she just got burnt up. Even Gabija is kinda like "she got betrayed" instead of "she was turned into a demon." I mean why would she leave the tower if all she did was got turned into a demon anyway? But I guess some kind of curse was involved.
>>124051709
Kill yourself.
Being carried is faster than mount speed. When I did it back when my bird still had STA, I was as fast as a Cataphract with Trot.
This isn't so bad
>>Pardoner
>Oblation
No.
>Be Bokor
>Get in party with Sadhu
>Put Zombify Circle wherever he stands so anyone who starts to attack him changes me to their priority (aggro is weird in this game) and anyone who dies before they leave the circle comes back & acts as a meatshield for Sadhu until my next 10 seconds are up
>For some reason, he gets pissy about this
Fucking why.
>>124052458
anon, that's rape
>>124053052
>I mean why would she leave the tower
You remember where Archmage Tower is, right?
I really liked the effect in the cathedral where you had to charge that one crystal that made the fancy circle. Whenever the enemies would hit it, the circle would start to deform and sometimes go out. That was pretty cool.
I also liked the mission where you had to steal the Pawnd's clothes.
Why the fuck aren't there more clubs with the pierce attribute?
Switching to a bat-full-o-nails is fun for putting leather enemies in their place, but the lack of attack power with what I've got is catching up with me. There should definitely be more of these weapons.
Also, the cleric attribute lies. Stun still applies even though it isn't [Blunt].
>>124053152
That is pretty cool. How long does it last?
>>124053604
Next to an inaccessible map and a junky town?
I could understand if they were attacking the cathedral now, so that's where they'd spawn, but you'd think they'd stick around and help (what was that demon's name?) attack the tower over and over all those times they supposedly did.
>>124053778
>the lack of attack power with what I've got is catching up with me
Upgrade the weapon more
>>124053609
>Priest tells me to kill Pawnds and get their mini skirts
>Mini skirts
>What the fuck is with this guy? Is he into monsters or some shit?
>just made a memelander alt to try the class out
>get kektar stroke level 5
>use it
>it is garbage
What the fuck were people complaining about all this time? This skill is fucking garbage.
Anyone doing Swordsman?
>Swordsman
Gung Ho
>Highlander
Cartar Stroke
>Peltasta
Swashbuckling
>Hoplite
Finestra
>Barbarian
Seism
>Cataphract
Earth Wave
>Rodelero
lol
>Squire
Weapon Maintenance
>Corsair
Hexen Dropper
>Fencer
Sept Etoiles
>Doppelsoeldner
Cyclone
>>124053927
>Next to an inaccessible map and a junky town?
Archmage Tower is the 190 dungeon, it is right at the entrance to Mage Tower
>>124054075
>Small Demon's Skirt Hem
close enough
>>124054075
Are you not into Monster Girls anon? A little time with MGQ will soon fix that.
>>124054261
>Saviour running around ripping the skirts off of poor Pawndel and Pawnd
we're awful people you know
>>124054075
>What the fuck is with this guy? Is he into monsters or some shit?
>Not wanting to queen a pawnd
>>124054486
Too bad they all grow up to be extra ugly
>>124054372
>not into monster girls
>what is even the appeal of this artstyle?
>start playing
>get stuck because I cant stop jerking off to the snake girl
Is the blue hair achievement broken or is it just there are no party quests yet?
>>124054212
>Squire
Weapon Maintenance: best jew
Repair: best utility/best jew if people are stupid enough
Base Camp + Refreshment Table: best comfy if the teleport works, and the food not bugging all the time
Armor Maintenance: meh
Arrest: lmao
>>124054707
but doesnt arrest work on f.o.e and bosses?
>>124054207
get the knockback dmg attribute
>>124054212
As Highlander C3 I'd like to say that I like Skull Swing, Cross Cut, Skyliner, and Moulinet as much as I do Cartar Stroke, but CS' short CDs and overheat gives it the edge.
>>124054707
You know what shit me off the most about arrest? In the squire test, the arrest test item caused stun on enemies and you could stlll move during the duration. With the actual skill you're stuck immoble and cannot move or attack, and the enemies can still dish out damage while they're locked in place.
for some reason I always read this part of the map as
>Badass Forkroad
also Electrocute is actually pretty good with Joint Penalty + the attribute. No mobs I've zapped with it have survived.
>>124054945
Maybe the not Being to move is a bug and not intended?
>>124055068
No, you're literally in an animation that's you holding ia rope that links to the enemies, unable to move or attack during the duration.
>>124055209
Welp the first time i read arrest iwas holy shit this is broken as fuck now its meh whatever
>>124053921
14+(skillvl) seconds. Long ass cooldown. but hey, it's the best mobility archers get.
>>124054212
>rodelero
montano because you can use it with a dagger
>>124055502
Is Rodelero so bad that its best skill is a single hit stun?
It's got to be Shooting Star or Slithering.
Fresh memes
>>124055209
So arrest is only exploitable with melee mobs/bosses with 4 ranged dps and 1 squire, Interesting.
who /autism/ here
>>124055265
Here's a webm of what it looks like.
>>124055902
>enemy starts attacking you
ayyylmao
>>124054075
There was a Priest who asked you to lure little Pantos with candy and now you're complaining about chasing skirts?
>>124055792
that's always how it is
Pelt C3 > Squire C2 fuckboy that's only purpose is to tank monsters and polish their master's rods
>>124055853
me
i want to play this so bad
>>124055902
It looks just like Corsair's Iron Hook with the attribute turned on. What the fuck IMC.
>>124055960
Which is precisely the point I was making, it's fucking worthless. I actually more or less specifically went there just because elloms are one of the few enemies whose magic missiles basically never miss.
>>124056010
I wish you could, too
>>124055963
Sounds like something to aspire to.
>>124055963
hey you get 12k-20k per hour from me so you must be getting a lot of shekels
>>124054618
I don't think the Maidens/Naktis are the same 'group of things' as Pawnd/Pawndels. They look more like female Deadborn, and I'm not sure there's a giant boss equivalent of them.
>>124056010
wish you could toostalbutt
how to farm ranking points?
i mean, the non-obvious methods.
>>124054461
Have you ever noticed that when you knock most things around like with earthquake or something, they'll flip over and fall ungracefully on the ground, but the Pawnds and Pawndels turn over and land on their feet instead of landing in some exposed position?
>>124055963
I wanted to do highlander3>squire2
>>124056743
It'd work reasonably well. Highlander 3 is a solid base.
did they fix bokor yet
>>124056458
I'm struggling to leave the 70s while Zemyna's #1 gets 2k points everytime I press F4.
I have no idea what that nigga is doing
>>124057136
i've just saw the top #5 of my server doing random upgrades to +5 (safe level) in various random items. dunno if this helps somehow...
>>124057021
>>124055634
montano doesn't even stun most of the time, it's a single hit interrupt with a slow and a chance to stun.
the joke is that all the other skills require a shield, so you have to switch away from your meme dagger to use them, automatically making them inferior.
i suppose high kick doesn't require a shield either and i've seen some people say it's good.
>>124057261
>>124054212
>Hexen Dropper
It's Double Weapon Assault.
is there a way to keep my current class badge in the next advancement?
>>124057468
I could only pick one. Hexen Dropper hits harder, faster, has a low CD, and overheat.
>>124054705
pls rspdn
>>124057302
Does anyone know how long High Kick's debuff lasts? Is the effect similar to Spear Lunge's, but for Strike?
/tosg/ is everywhere. We are the only ones playing.
>>124057959
yeah pretty much
>>124057613
Go for another circle in that class. It's a pretty questionable reason to stick with one, though
Sorc summon can be buffed with Aspersio, Revive and Stone Skin.
Haven't tested Krivis' buffs yet. Chrono buffs will be tested when i get c6.
There are better cards for second slot than TS, he is CON/SPR.
If you want to build yourself around TS as your main damage, Transponse can let you go full INT for summoning only.
>>124057959
Yea pretty much, saw you guys there so changed to 1st prison, just got 165.
My god these fucking quests at Tyla Monastery are literally cancer. The fucking pumpkin things rape my ass so hard, how the fuck do I do these quests?
>>124058198
Kite them.
What is the most efficient way to get white hair?
>>124058174
The second slot is only for Morph, the stats it shows when you put a card there are the stats it would have if in the main slot. If you were using Morph as it's meant to be used (to swap stats on cards) Templeshooter would be in the second slot and not the first and it would then gain the stats of the main. For example, morphing Cerberus into Templeshooter gives Temple Cerberus's huge HP pool
>>124058198
You wouldn't have that problem as a quarrel
>>124057959
>We are the only ones playing.
Sometimes it sure seems like we are.
>>124058198
icoin revive. I agree that it was utter ass though. Things are fire resistant.
>>124058227
I'm at that quest where you have to protect that monk guy while he releases some seal, and there are like 30 mobs swarming you and half of them have a ranged homing magic attack. How the fuck do I kite that?
>>124049848
Spikes are good for luring monster into one spot.
You need at least 20% mastery so it starts doing 1.4k dmg per spike.
Stone shot dmg is not that good the stun is really good. with 30% mastery is 1k per shot more if its plate enemy.
Pavise is bugged now it blocks but dont stop the projectile, but its blocking melee atks.
Tear down can be a one point wonder if you want, destroy all kinds of traps .
if you want to know more i can tell
also gems are your friends
>>124058160
b-but i'm c3 already
>>124058416
You that's bad? I go fucking DESTROYED on the namu temple ruins one where you have to burn some roots.
>>124058174
Zalciai also buffs it
>>124058480
Guess you're stuck not advancing, then. Weird reason, though. You rarely see the badge
>>124058464
yes tell me all about it
Honestly I'm planning on just taking 1 circle of QS for stone shot, but knowing more about it would be good, anything is appreciated. like for c1 what would you max? I was thinking 5 stone shot 5 pavise but I'm not sure about 5 stone pick, caltrops at low levels are worth it?
Druids. Will they ever learn?
>>124058565
The monk fucker just stands there doing nothing at this quest, but I think that might be the 4am lag rolling in. Fuck this I quit for today.
>>124055419
You need to see running shot m8
its fabulous
>haven't played since FO4
>exp boost
>no more dic
IMC did something right
>>124058685
druids confirmed for treefuckers.
>>124058464
Pavise was blocking ranged attack and melee(with proper positioning) before a certain patch broke it. Ranged attack are still blockable in its current bugged state again with proper positioning
hey /tosg/ can you sword without delay after normal attack
>>124059120
$NO COMMENT DATA$ 20150317_000019
>>124058654
if you going just for the QS c1 get 5 stone pick and 1 stone shot you dont need the other skills.
Pavise 5 is ok just to fill in
Spikes 5 are really bad not worth it, they get good at 10.
Ideal if you want to go Qs c2 save 10 points to get Caltrops 10 when u get the class advance, stone pick 4 and stone shot 1 is all you need, anyway.
Does anyone want to buy this?Or just want it, really
I was going to sell it on the market, then I noticed it ate my ruby. So that's enough of that.
dmn, had you managed to get any of the class specific shops or abilities working?
>>124058318
I dyed it white after soaking it in all this cum I crafted.
>>124059327
it's not worth anything
4am lag is here
>>124059248
Nobody reported the Pavise bug, are you gonna report it? I'm still doing testing on it so still gonna take a couple days before I do a post. What server are you?
>>124059575
I need a reply since I'm also testing a caltrops desync bug, So I really need more quarrel shooters
>>124059575
Gavidya.
I used the report bug button but my guess is that the korea version already got this one.
>>124059785
Can we meet or if you can post your name?
>>124059782
the spikes bug i still dont get it.
it works really fine in dungeons and boss fights.
Shit starts to flow in normal maps close to stairs
The first time i did this quest, on my Doppel, I jsut died and waited the quest time duration. Now on my second character, after I died, the timer refused to move until I ressurected.
>>124059785
or I could actually just ask you here, Are you having trouble with caltrops past level 10 IN CERTAIN MAPS.
>>124060042
try it at mausoleum its a fuckfest lagfest disconnect fest. try it on maps that actually work its fine.
>>124060060
I'm surprised you would start a new char on zemyna or laima when gajiba has the highest exp rate.
>>124060083
that shit started after the last patch.
current lvl 15 spikes
>>124060060
The game is learning. Adapting. Evolving. Very soon, it will@dicID_$ETC_20150918_014643$
>>124060173
>gabija higher exp than others
First time reading about this. Who said this?
>>124060197
I already test all the levels its not the levels thats the actual problems its how the maps handle them animation of placed objects on elevation dunno if this actually it.
>776 STR
I may have underestimated the potential of rank 10 Vendetta JUST A LITTLE BIT
>>124060309
It's been like that since the 2x exp event happened. test it yourself with the exp viewer if you don't believe it.
>cast Hail
>nothing dies
meme spell
>>124060197
are you the level 100 quarrel shooter that talked to mary? I need to know since a sample size of 2 isn't enough. Also i dont really care bro so tell please tell me
>>124060345
you gain 775 exp with vendetta?
>>124060494
the fuck you smoking dude
>>124060494
? ? ?
>>124060529
i mean str.
>>124060580
Rank 10 Vendetta gives 308. Brings my total to 776.
This second journey is almost complete. I'll do the 175 dungeon a last time tomorrow, pop the 15 Lv9 cards I've got on me, be 186, do the 196/197 quests, boost all the way to 193, do 190 dungeon, and go god-knows how far after that.
It's appaling the difference it makes when you know everything there is to know about charatcer pregression BEFORE diving into a character. The only grind period I experienced was 145-158 on Demon Prison. The rest of the time was spent merely questing and/or doing dungeons.
I'll go to sleep for today, but before I go, I'll make another post about everything I learned about Falconer today.
So what will keep people playing? I mean, I don't want to use the word endgame because that has implications, but you know what I mean. What will the big goals be when you're super strong, rank 10 and rich as balls?
I really want this to do well.
>>124060743
The journey.
>>124060743
Right now there's nothing, all endgame gear is super easy to obtain.
Hopefully we get a much higher level cap on release along with way better itemization, with actual options, I want to use different things than other people, and I want to still be grinding, not be stuck at a cap.
>>124060865
This. The content locusts who use words like "tiered progression" and "endgame" can fuck right off.
>>124060743
They'll create a strip version of the card game.
So who else am I gonna sexually harass after
>>124060743
No one knows. Our beta's "endgame" is actually non-existent because it's only rank 6 and 200 levels. Only the devs know what they have in mind. No one else can see that far into the future (chances are they can't either)
I want it to do well, but I'm not gonna go making wild guesses
>>124060878
I can't put my finger on it, I've reached the same conclusion that the games items are super easy and its fast to level when you actually know how to. But I can't explain why I can't stop playing.
>>124060703
Thank you lp.
>>124060703
About the Hawk/Falcon:
>You get a free Hawk voucher, same as when job changing into Cata/Hunter
>The hawk is level 1 when you get it
>It has STA when you get it, but there's no way to replenish it after it ends
>It does NOT auto attack, ever, at all
>After using any of the skills, the bird will fly off into the horizon and not come back
>You have to use Call every time this happens so the bird will follow you again
>Nothing ever hits the bird, it's invulnerable, even though it has HP
>You can have both pets out at once
>Open the F9 window will always hsow your regular pet
>You must leave your regular pet in the lodge in order to see the Falcon's stats, or to train it
>Other characters cannot use the Falcon by switching it to another character
About attributes:
>The HP and STA attributes from hunter are shared with Falconer
>The Call: Obtain attribute works maybe half of the time. It gives random consumables, including potions
>Couldn't figure out what the Circling attribute does. It's probably trash, just like the skill itself
1/2
>>124060865
I get that anon, but that only lasts so long. People are spoiled on fast progression these days so if it's too slow, slow enough to be profitable, they will leave. If it's to their pace they'll reach the end of that journey pretty quickly. I'm not saying I want raids or anything like that, in fact the whole raid lock out/organize a bunch of retards thing is what kills most MMOs for me after awhile.
I'm just being realistic here.
>>124060947
>Content locusts
Come on now anon, it's not a sin to want a game you like to have things to do in it for a long time. Endgame isn't a dirty word. Again, I'm not saying this should turn into some awful WoW clone. If I did I wouldn't be asking what type of content you'd want to see.
>>124061279
2/2
About the Skills
>Call just calls the bird when it flies off
>Perch does NOT recover STA. Having a perch nearby will prevent the bird from flying off after using skills, but the range on it is absurdly, ridiculously low
>Stepping half a screen's distance will out-distance Perch's effects
>Giving any order to the bird while it is descending onto the Perch will consume SP and do nothing
>Hovering, like all auto-targetting skills, will often target non-monsters(fireballs, traps), and sometimes attack where a monster recently died
>Pheasant does really ncie damage, but the long cooldown makes it impractical
>Both Pheasant and Hovering have a TON of knockback, which is awful if you want to gather monsters together for any purpose(in my case, Growling)
>Hanging shot WILL bug you every time you use it when the falcon isn't lfying above you, sometime making you stuck, sometimes by leaving you behind and controlling the bird
>When I used it back when I still had STA on the bird, I was going as fast as a Cataphract, but now I am about as fast as a dashing swordsman
That's pretty much it. Good night /tosg/.
>>124060703
>145-158
Why 158? I thought its 165?
>>124061293
>want a game you like to have things to do in it for a long time
>doesn't want a grind
Isn't this the fabled game that people want that is impossible to actually do?
>>124061353
I had enough cards to get out as soon as 154 if I wanted. 165 is just the most efficienty path, since you can almost go directly to 200 after that.
>Get hit
>Be bleeding
>Taking damage more than 1s
>Swap to bare hands
>Taking the same amount of damage
Thought you said it was like hitting myself. Did they change it?
>>124060703
>>124061279
No RoriPan-san, when you get to the 186 reset, do the lv175 dungeon two more times.
The exp is actually great after the reset, it will actually almost put you in the 190s, so you can use only some cards to get to 190, then to the lv190, you'll be 190+ without actually using your cards (or at least, most of them)
Almost everyone forget about this.
>>124061447
How many cards do you need to leave at 154? Do you mean the lvl 6s?
>be me
>thaumaturge
>grinding in demon prison 2
>retarded sapper puts down a brrom trap tries to ks me
>reversi that shit
>laugh at his idiocy
So it the second demon prison worthless if you can't kill the trees in a reasonable amount of time?
>>124061463
The bleed's damage parameters might be snapshotted on application.
>>124061386
When did I say I didn't want to grind? Just that grinding implies you're moving toward something, something you'll eventually reach, and then what? The whole raid tiered progression nonsense was created because it sort of solves this problem because you can just keep adding layers
>So just add more things to grind for
That's what I'm asking about dummy, what things?
>>124061510
>stuff that only happens in our heads
>>124061578
I was just pointing out that's the perfect game that people want unlimited content without ever grinding which is kinda impossible to do.
>>124061578
I'm having fun making multiple characters with my group. The classes play differently when coordinated with other classes.
>>124061463
I should also mention that there's no way I could be doing as much damage as I'm doing to myself. I got 4 fuckin' str man.
>>124061673
Not unlimited content, but content that will last a long time.
>>124061723
but nothing actually lasts a long time when you have nolifers/harcore players
>>124061762
Anon I just wanted to know what you want to see in your stupid fucking chink game
>>124061480
When it turns midnight, I'll have to do them twice just to get from 185 to 186. If I want ANOTHER day, i'll be doing the 175 dungeon at the expense of not doing the 190 one, which doesn't make sense.
From this point forward, I'll just have to do 190 dungeon maybe 2 or 3 times and i'll be 200.
>>124061490
All 7s and 8s, plus 78 lvl 6 cards. This is what I had.
Someone had pointed out to me that I had missed 3 lvl8 cards, but whatever. Don't know if I had missed them, or I counted wrong the ones I was still about to get. Too much work to find out.
Basically what I did was:
>Take advantage of the high rates on low levels to not eat any cards at all, unless Iam more than 6 levels below a map
>Do dungeons for 15 levels(50-65, 90-105, 130-145)
>Grind Prison to 158(I had originally planned 160 but got lazy)
>>124061596
No, it happened, and whenever I see a broom trap I will always reversi it.
>>124061808
err, sorry. I'll drop it. I actually don't know what I see in it and I actually can't explain it either.
>>124061809
50-57 is faster if you can grind the Egnomes on the fourth floor of Tenet chapel instead of the 50 dungeon.
>>124061930
I was an Archer2 + early Hunter1 at that point, so it wasn't really an option I guess.
Doing the dungeon is fine. Just wish it would drop anything useful.
>>124061762
it's called PvP
MMOs last because people like using them as chat rooms. The chatroom aspect needs to be enhanced. Also add in cute clothes to wear and trade with each other. Grinding for dresses and hats.
This game is too story focused. Either they're going to have to end the story at some point and do something else with half the world still looking like it's undergoing an apocalypse, or they're going to eventually become more and more contrived as they can't end it. It's probably better to treat this game as an experiment. Maybe they'll make a sequel in some years and not have it seem so single player themeparky.
>>124060470
yeah i talked to a quarrel lvl 175 i think
and yes current lvl 100, small world
>>124062060
>PVP
Ganking lowbies?
The joke that is dueling?
"open pvp" which is still just ganking lowbies?
Add in corrupted vs pure revelator realm vs realm battles? (aka ganking lowbies)
WoE isn't really that interesting either.
Just go play a MoBA or Eve Online.
>>124062084
I can agree with this. Grinding for cosmetics isn't too bad, so long as you do it right. Stats are also going to be a part of the game of course. Making an MMO story focused is a fucking awful idea though. Maybe 5% of the population will read your shitty quest text.
Just make super loose and exploitable upgrade systems that let you manipulate certain aspects of them to get retarded strong. Make it a lot of work to do and there's your non-tiered endgame. Basically make it Maplestory but good.
>>124061480
You get the same xp you just need less to advance.
>>124062656
Yes? I thought that was implyed there
>>124062830
>>124061480
>The exp is actually great after the resetimplies to me that you get more xp
kek, this game is so retarded.
how to get some easy ranking points:
>buy crap item
>hammer it
>buy another (different) crap item
>hammer it
>repeat
>>124062656
You actually get less XP since your level is a lot higher than the mob level, do you not?
>>124061825
What does that do? make it yours?
>>124062890
I'm glad we cleared that up then
>>124063015
Technically, yes. It's about 70% of the normal exp.
That said, you need way less to level, so your exp gain is still high.
For exemple: going from 175 -> 176 you need 4m exp while going from 186->190 you need ~2.5m, so you need -50% exp less while you still get ~70% exp
I think solo you can go from 186 to 190 with only the dungeon exp
>>124062997
hammer it?
>>124063385
Start buying anvils now, son
>>124062147
making a 3rd quarrel shooter wouldn't actually let me test if its character specific bug or something since it happens on both my quarrel shooters. I might actually need to go to reddit /forums to find more quarrel shooters.
>>124062997
sure, if youre a rankfag who actually care about ranking
Does any sorc have a dullahan or deathweaver card? Do they work as summons? If so, what are they like compared to others?
>>124063570
Deathweaver works as summon, it's not that great but if you use Riding, you sit on the throne
>>124063775
aren't the S and D skills bugged and do nothing?
easily the best summon to ride, though
>>124058464
Dude, are you the level 1XX quarrel shooter I've already talked to or a different guy?
>>124063947
>>124063775
Deathweaver has a throne? Isn't that the spider lady one and not Throneweaver?
>>124062997
Is that how people get 40k points?
>>124064187
naw, you'd eventually run out of easy items to upgrade
>>124064282
u wot
Im i doing it right?
Don't react to imposters
There can be only one Quarrel
>>124064546
>no Caltrops
>Bringing mobs to where they don't spawn just to interrupt afking
I am so tempted to blow my card wad at level 158. The exp is just so slow.
>>124064668
I'm not sure.
Do i need them?
Can someone inform me as to why people buy primaluce? Are there not better swords to use past 150?
>>124064883
I think it's a recipe item
Guys I'm lvl 130 RIGHT NOW. is it possible to hit 200, or at least r6, and how soon can I do it if i buckle down? How much dungeoning should I do?
>>124065013
Yes.
>>124065013
yeah you can hit r6 at least, do as much dungeoning as possible
