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Marvelous Edition

Invaded >>123918381


>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRJ5u-L8qw
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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DS2 is best
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Toasting new bread with Forlorn questions

Is his weapons or armor any good?

Can he not invade if you beat the area boss he can invade in?

Can you force him to spawn at all (wiki mentions just sitting at a bonfire might make him invade?)
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>>124024720
>him
>forlorn is a person

die
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best girl
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>Died to Capra a few times
>I know: I'll employ a clever tactic and apply poison to my spear
>never got the effect
>win anyway
I thought I was being so smart, too.
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>>124024720
I think he invades purely randomly, maybe one or two guaranteed times like at the Huntsman Copse. His gear is shit, do not bother.
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>Use Fume Knight UGS' 2H L2 to succesfully block a player's attack I predicted
>Dude dodges the swing anyway
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>>124026326
Are you the guy that asked about the bridge drake?
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>>124026205
Cut content doesn't count
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>>124026714
Nope.
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>>124026908
>we will never have daughteru souls
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6m SM, Scholar, on PC. Every single area I try to invade or summon for is completely dead. Am I bunned? The only thing I did with CE is change my character name by 2 letters, could that have done it? If so this is bullshit.
Will try to invade on a new character with lower SM to see if it's just this SM range being empty or my entire account.
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>>124029402
>The only thing I did with CE is change my character name by 2 letters
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>>124029402
I went afk in the iron keep immediately after this and a guy invaded me and tried to poison fog me. False alarm I guess, this SM range is just basically dead.
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Soul Memory is so unforgivable

DS2 could have been decent

Why
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>>124029631
THE SAME GUY GOT ME AFK AGAIN GOD DAMN
I beat him both times though :^)
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Trying to do an artorias build will this work not gonna do pvp

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2FycmlvciwxMSw4LDQzLDQwLDQwLDExLDE4LDE4LDAsNjIsNTMsNTAsNTMsMzEsMjIsMTcyLDE3NCwwLDAsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCx3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sMSwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCww

on the way to artorias what weapon should I use, im thinking claymore and the greatsword of artorias
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>>124030004
Some b team fag was upset about getting twinked on. I bet Shibuya wouldn't have allowed SM. He should have directed the game completely.
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>>124029631
>this SM range is just basically dead.
>tfw even vanilla 5m is more alive than that
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>>124030212
Protip
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>>124030004
It's a silly, shitty design idea but it shouldn't get in the way of having fun. Just abuse agape ring and savescumming, makes the game much more enjoyable.
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>>124029106
FromSoftware hates kids
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>>124030652
More like one person in charge has a grudge against lolicons

Probably Bamco shills
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>>124026473
A shame, I thought it looked kind of neat. Then again, I also liked how artorias' gear looked. Lets say I do want some of his garbage gear anyway, would best way to just spam sit at a bonfire he can invade at/near?

>>124026608
They can still dodge the strike? wow that kind of sucks. Was thinking of using it too.
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>>124030652
>>124030763
Tanimura our guy.
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>>124030212
You need 20 int and faith to use the noncursed greatsword of artorias. I know it sucks but the guy has to be able to use his own weapon right?
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>>124031161
>tfw im a shotacon

;_;
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>>124031213
die
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>>124031213
Mods?
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>>124031386
>ban shotafags but not the lolifags
Is this nazi germany?
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>>124031213
nigga das gay
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>>124031605
not if you're a girl :^)
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>>124032036
lundin
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Reminder that this guy is literally the hardest enemy in Ds2
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Post webms
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>>124032808
if you say so
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Alright guys, i've got a dilemma. I wanna do an Arced Sword run for shits and giggles but Scholars on my PC can't run and is outside the refund window so whatever. So should i get it on PS4 or just do it in the original?

Tell me how to spend my money.
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>>124031213
Lolita is a nickname for Dolores, Shota is "little gayboy"
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>>124032940
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>>124032808
>blocking
Oh shit nigger what are you doing.
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>>124033469
you post the best stuff, debug-anon
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>>124033628
>this nigga tho
Remember anon, you may have a lot of stamina but he has infinite stamina.
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>>124033856
and thank you for chasing 4cunts away and making it blow its head off.
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>>124034505
here we go....
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>bb is down
forgot how shitty souls pvp is
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When and why did /dsg/ turn on Afro?
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>>124032808
You must have a short term memory.
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>>124032808
>>124036681
Nah.
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what are some armor sets that are good and worth upgrading in DS 2?
i'm currently using the aurous set, because it has
these amazing stats but it still is a burden on
my equip load.
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Is Charcoal Pine Resin or Flame Weapon better?
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>>124040230
They're equivalent, except on I think the duration for Flame Weapon since I think that scales better with your fire bonus from int/fth. Aromatic Ooze and Gold/Dark pine resin are also equivalent to crystal magic weapon and sunlight blade/dark weapon too.

>>124040060
Certain light armor sets have insane defenses when you fully upgrade them, like better than heavy armor sets with 1/3rd the weight, just without any poise. I like the wanderer, leather, and jester sets for that.
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Does anything stagger Priscilla? I've tried everything that I've read online and nothing works.
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can someone help me clear the crystal cave? I keep getting knocked off by the golden golem.
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>>124038102
>that damage
>that infinite poisebreak
>that small hitbox
>that making maldron harder to kill
fuck those guys
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>>124042329
Maldron the Ass is hands down the best invader in the series.
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So /dsg/, a friend of mine is starting his first SoTFS run and he's a pretty big fan of Binding of Isaac. I plan to invade him cosplaying as the seven deadly sins -
Lust, obviously a desert sorceress
Gluttony, Catarina armor is obvious but I dunno what else, probably just the biggest shit you can get, fat roll and a ton of health
Greed, I have absolutely no clue
Sloth, slow fucker without the stats to wield a weapon
Wrath, incredibly aggressive, light armor, dual wield
Envy, copying his armor and weapon loadout
Pride, an allrounder taunting over and over midfight

Help me fill in the blanks/offer advice on builds for each/call me a faggot for doing a flamboyant homo thing, anything would be appreciated
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>>124042771
>Gluttony, Catarina armor is obvious but I dunno what else, probably just the biggest shit you can get, fat roll and a ton of health
Catarina + Dragon head
>Greed, I have absolutely no clue
Symbol of Avarice. Maybe plan an ambush where you drop some item and use chameleon to hide, then backstab as he grabs said item.
Consider Butchers Knife or Eleum Loyce. Or both. Lifesteal's cool for Greed, but thematically works for gluttony as well.
>Sloth
Use PWoP.
>Envy, copying his armor and weapon loadout
Use acid clouds and acid urns. It's cruel, but thematically appropriate.
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>>124042771
>greed
hex
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>>124043316
Oh, also use sanctum mace or some other kind of poison weapon for sloth. Slow death etc. etc.
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When is the best time to do the Painted World in NG?
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>>124044132
Right after Biggie and Smalls when you can warp is fine.
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>>124043316
>>124043652
Fantastic, thanks dawg
What sort of armor sets should I use for sloth/wrath/pride? I'd like wrath to be a light form of metal, but I cant' think of very many metal sets that ARE light
Maybe a mix of mad warrior/charred loyce?
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Throne Watcher going all Marilyn Monroe on me, yet she's not even trying to cover up! It's obscene.
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>>124026205
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Guys I need one more fucking sunlight medal for the max rank and nobody is summoning me. Can someone help? My sign is outside the demon of song fight. Scholar, on pc, 6.5m sm.
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>>124044427
>I'd like wrath to be a light form of metal, but I cant' think of very many metal sets that ARE light
Become an edgelord with executioner's chestpiece and aurous helmet. Use the bound shield for parrying, cause we need more spikes.
>sloth
This reminds me of early DaS2 days, cause I once made a thematically similar character.
I used this for my snailman character: rusted mastadon greaves, rusted ironclad chestpiece, sanctum soldiers bracers and sanctum tiara. Also make sure to make your character a squished face with a large dark brown tatoo all over it, so it blends with Sanctum Tiara in a single mess of something icky.
>pride
Something GOLD would be cool. You know, think of King Knight from Shovel Knight. Maybe velstads or ruin sentinel set with iron king crown.
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>Use fire arrows
>128 damage
>use regular arrows 143

Do fire arrows not do fire damage? Guides say they're weak to fire.

Is this an over looked bug? Because this can't be intentional.
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>>124045829

What game? I think in Dark Souls you need a Fire or a Chaos bow for fire arrows.
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>>124046296

Dark Souls

And that makes zero sense. You can see the flame when you fire the arrow. And the description says they add fire and make no refernece to needing a fire bow. It's most likely an over sight.

Do Fire Bows always add Fire element always or just with fire arrows?
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>>124045474
Oh, and alternatively if you don't wanna farm Aurous faggots, you could try vengarls with the red eye ring. Never tried it but hopefully it'll make your headpiece look like it's breathing fire.
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>>124046471
>Do Fire Bows always add Fire element always or just with fire arrows?

I'm not sure about that one. It has been a year or two since I used fire arrows. I only remember that I had trouble getting the fire damage from fire arrow, and that ascending the bow helped.
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>>124044452
you're aware that TW is male, are you m80?
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>>124048425
with that bulge she certainly is.
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anywhere in DeS or DaS for ps3 where I could have actual invasions? not ''honorubu duerus''.
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>>124045829

It's the way the damage is split when it has partly elemental damage. A large arrow is 60 physical. A fire arrow is 35 and 50 fire. And because every enemy has a resistance to each element, a weapon that does a single type of damage will regularly outdamage one that splits it even if added up on paper the split one has a higher number.
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>>124049504

That's dumb.
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>>124049675

You're dumb.
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>>124049751

The whole point of adding elements is to exploit elemental weaknesses. But if the damage splitting results in it not doing as well as regular non-elemental attacks, what's the point of elements?
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>>124049813

Enemies that are listed on the wiki as vulnerable to a certain element has a lower defense to that certain element. For example, a lot of mobs (and players for that reason) have weak lightning defenses. Which is why lightning infusion is so popular.
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>>124050042

I hit the 4 Jings with a fire arrow for 128. Regular was 143. Sites say they're very weak to fire.

Something's up. I'm gonna make a composite fire bow to compare.
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>>124050284

If you're only using a fire arrow with a regular bow you're doing minimal fire damage that is probably negated by the mob's defense.
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>>124048425
Pfft, yeah right, next you're gonna tell me Gwyndolin was a guy too or something. Get outta here you joker!

TW is seriously male? I was unaware. ;_;
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>>124050284
I don't know where the site got their info, but they are extremely weak to fire.

On my sl1 run I had 10 humanity and a +5 chaos reinforced club and I had a +5 lightning hand axe. The hand axe did like 1.5x more damage when it normally does so much less than the chaos club.
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>>124050558
Soul Description and weapon description both refer to him as a he
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>>124050632
>I don't know where the site got their info, but they are extremely weak to fire.

I think you meant lightning.

And it's hard comparing hand axe to reinforced club because of the club's R2 which does a lot more damage than regular weapons.
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>>124050558
"The Watcher has stood by the throne for ages.
Will his wishes be fulfilled?"

"The Watcher has stood by the throne for ages.
Will his wait be worth the while?"

From his shield and sword. All his armor says "his" too. And defender is also a guy. I never got where the rumor that it was a girl came from.
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whats a socially acceptable shield to use in dark souls 1
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>>124050840

Who cares. It's another shitty unremarkable boss in a shitty unremarkable game.
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>>124050831
I meant resistant to fire*

My bad. Freudian slip.
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>>124050909
buckler
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>>124050840
>I never got where the rumor that it was a girl came from.
Pretty sure like 90% of the shit thats straight up wrong about the game came from the guy that made the prepare to cry lore series
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>>124050940
Yeah the bloodletter L2 is crazy

I was wanting to just go to the well and ignore him
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>>124050909
>socially acceptable

end yourself
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anyone want to help me for rom?

password is bbg, lv 50, just before the fog gate
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>>124051064
Good job dummy, you fell for it.
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Posted in a dead thread
Blackwaltz if you're here I'm good to go whenever you are
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Still fighting Laurence ng+ if anyone would like to join and help. Password is: Old
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holy fuck I hate this game

I just want my goddamn rakuyo

re-ringing, just run straight to the well this time
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>>124050284

Site's wrong. They're not that vulnerable to fire. Either that or they have high health like gaping so it doesn't matter.
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>>124051136
>>>/vg/bbg/
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>>124050909

Dark Hand. In your main hand.
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Thank you so goddamn much Apple anon

You saved my Maria run
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No worries m8, I'll ring until he's dead or I am.
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just one shotted someone with the bloodletter. must be someone on bbg with 30 vit.
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>>124051298
>>124050632
>>124050941

Site was wrong then? Someone should correct it then before I waste my time trying to use fire weapons on them.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/the-four-kings
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RATE OLD HUNTERS BOSSES IN TERMS OF DIFFICULTY

DO THE SAME FOR ALL SOULS GAMES
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>>124050909
Every shield. People who hates shields in Souls games are shitters and memers.
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Oh for fucks sake, that was my bad
Ring a dinging
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>>124051774

>Ludwig
Died 5 times

>Living Failures
Died 0 times

>Maria
Died 1 time

>Laurence
Died 2 times
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>>124051250
>>124051260
>>124051683
>>124051774

Go away. >>124051215
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>>124050909
all of them
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>boss is only hard because it's impossible to angle your camera on it
What is this shit? I feel like this is what they meant when they said 'fake difficulty'.
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>>124053918
Which boss?
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>>124052589

magic shield lasts 15 secs
it's borderline useless
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>tfw you have exactly 5 weight left before midrolling so you equip something with exactly 5 weight and instead of being 25.0% it goes just over the threshold

y u do dis miyazaki?
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>>124054213
Cleric Beast :^)
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>>124054642
>15 seconds of fucking invincible
It's not that bad.
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http://darksouls.wikidot.com/unused-content#toc27

Who wrote this? Because already I see errors.I've gotten Vamos' so called unused dialogue in the game.
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>>124054820
Don't lock on, idiot.

Also, >>124051215
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>got the tiny being ring
>tiny hp increase
>got wolf ring, hawk ring, steel defense ring, right before
>get a ring that boots hp, stamina, equip load by 20% right after

Literally why. This thing should be found really early game in Firelink it's nice to have but really out classed by everything else.
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How do you fight the 4 jings? I have no sense of direction and the room is really confusing and I keep getting hit. I haven't figured our their attack pattern yet.

I swear this game is schizo with boss and enemy difficulty. For me at least. Maybe it's just my setup.

>Iron Golem is piss easy
>Biggie Smalls gives me tons of trouble
>pinwheel is a joke
>ghosts are annoying
>Dark wraiths are a joke
>4 jings seem really hard
>demon centipede is super easy
>flame demon is easy

new Rondo is supposed to be done long before Izalith right? Izaleth and demon ruins feel much easier.
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>>124041378
I used a whip. Can't remember if I two-handed it and R2'd or just one-hand R2'd, but the heavy sweeping attack brought her out of invisibility in a few hits.
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>>124056343
New Londo isn't supposed to be done before any of the other areas particularly. It's unique in that it's the only of the Lord Souls you can get without clearing Anor Londo first but that's not the standard progression of the game.
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>>124042771
>wrath
>not a full-fledged pyro with flaming dual swords

ya dun goofed
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Stockpile Thomas:
>takes seconds to deposite all items not equipped

Dark Souls Item box:
>Gives you an entire list of your inventory
>not immediately obvious what is in your inventory or not
>takes much longer to depsosite items as you have to check through the whole list to see what is and is not in there
>same process to take items out
>usually ends up with never using it and having a bloated hard to navigate inventory

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>tfw wasn't able to beat the bell gargoyles without solaire to distract them for me
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Just upgraded Heide Knight Sword to +10 and infused it with lightning.. at 50 faith it barely does more damage than it did before I infused it..

I goofed, is there any weapon that scales well with faith? Preferably something with low physical requirements..
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>>124059021
First playthrough? Or trying to get the tail?
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>>124059021

We all done it.
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>>124059578
First. But I also got the tail on one of my tries.
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Think they might bring the luck stat back?
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>DaS 2K19
>Game starts, your character walks out Through some castle top when suddenly a dragon smashed onto the scene
>Solaire, now heavily muscle'd and donning a chainsaw sword prompts a QTE
>"Chosen, catch!"
>You press X as the game slows down and he tosses you a crossbow
>Switches to first person as you fire your automatic crossbow into the dragons neck
>"Press L2 to use Dragon Shouts"
>mfw
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>>124059873
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What should I do with Nashandra's soul?

And while I'm at it, how do I kimm Fume Knight?
>combo with small sword
>try to block
>run out of stamina as he switches to big ass sword
>try to avoid
>avoid the two first hits
>takes the remaining 3 hits in the ass
>can't counter
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>>124059873
>title screen has license music by popular pop/metal band
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>Decide to play Dark Souls again
>"Ah, my lowbie sunbro I never finished..."
>Make it through Keloggs, and try to get into Sen's
>Forgot to beat Gargoyles
>An hour or two later, make it Giant Blacksmith and get a +2 Lightning weapon
>Realise I need to beat Bert and Ernie before I can drain New Londo and farm Chunks and Slabs

I just wish it didn't take 5ever for somebody to summon me. I just want to kill Havel for you.
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>>124060428
>play SotFS
>put sign down because I'm maximum zombie and fuck using effigies
>get summoned
>guy just stands here for a while
>"you have been sent back by the master of this world"
I am a little upset.
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>>124059362
Lightning is just flat damage. It doesn't scale with Faith.

You want a Divine weapon if you're going Faith.
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What is a good Strength Faith build to start with?

Made a deprived and rushed dragon rider, still haven't leveled anything, any advice?

I want to make a Co-Op char so mainly focused pve.
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>>124060505
How is SotFS? I've heard it fixes some of DS2's problems.
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>>124060716
It's a little less forgiving than DaS2, gameplay-wise. You have more enemies, more often, and in different places, which keeps you on your toes.
Other than that, the community is still bloody awful.
>waa he doesn't fight me fair
>baaw I is invaded
>bwaa how dare you aggro that mob

And the durability problem still isn't fixed, which makes whips a pain in the ass to use.
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>>124050558
they are both males.
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It is just me or is Bed of Chaos the hardest boss?
I only know DaS1 & 2
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>>124060646
Find a weapon you like and make it Divine.

I'd recommend looking up where you want to co-op. You'll need to figure out what level you want to be, and what areas will typically have people around those levels. Also, figuring out what level you want to sit around will let you figure out where you want to distribute your stats.

For example; I've got a low STR character I use to help folks through Taurus Demon, Gargoyles and other bosses that are lower, but I'm keeping him at SL 16 so just about anybody who is just starting can summon him.

>>124060846
>Durability still not fixed
Well, that's a reason to not bother right there. I bet they still haven't given a proper solution to SM either.

God DaS2 was awful.
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>>124060946
>not Ornstein and Smough
>not the gargoyles
>not Gwyn
>not Capra Demon
>not literally every boss but Ms "I-sit-and-my-ass-and-wait"
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>>124060946
Beat it on the third attempt. Bows make everything easy.
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>>124060946
no but it's one of the best bosses in the game definitely.
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>>123972764
>Everyone is a dude in armor
Aside from that I also said "a rehash, or a mob". You already made a list and can see that third of bosses is already dudes in armor. And no, I personally wouldn't count Smelter and buttbuddies as dudes in armor. I'd count them as a boss with retarded hitboxes and one of the most boring bosses in the game respectively.

>Chariot
Puzzle boss with trash on top, the horse itself is boring.
>Skelly lords
It's just a bunch of trash mobs.
>Gargyoles
A complete rehash, down to soundtrack. Might as well count as a mob rush.
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Trash mobs with one tough rat.
>Royal Rat Authority
Sif rehash that is as cheap as encounter Capra in DS1.
>Najka
Rehash of Quelaag 0.5 with even less character.
>Prowling Magus
Trash mobs.
>Gaint Lord
Quite literally a Last Giant rehash with one extra move. At least Last Giant had that cool moment when he tears his own arm off to use a weapon.

That leaves us with third.
>Demon of Song
Legitimately good fight with great intro.
>Guardian Dragon
Exact same dragon you encounter in Heide tower, but with flying moves. Maybe a bit bigger?
>Old Iron King
I expected him to be as big as Dragon God and just as mean. I was disappointed and greeted with one of the worst boss fights in the game.
>Covetus
He reminded me of final boss in DeS. And no, not Allant. Was about as challenging to fight too.
>Last Giant
Despite being piss easy, he made a good impression.
>Freja
Torch turns the boss fight into a chore. Without a torch it's a mob rush.
>Mytha
She has some backstory, I guess. As a fight, it's mediocre at best.
>Rotten
Leechmonger and Adjusticator say hi.

(cont)
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>>124061017
I thought durability was fixed. That's why I even bought the game on sale.
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>>124061196

So yeah, 2 actually decent fights in the game with 3 times as many bosses as DS1. Nice.

>Darklurker
>Ancient Dragon
>Nashadra
>Aldia
Haven't fought those.

>Stop parroting everything you heard a youtuber say or whatever its dumb, come to your own conclusions
I can just as easily say "stop being a contrarian, just because everyone says DS2 is shit". I bought the game on this sale just to experience and judge it myself. Like I said, I enjoy teh game, but bosses are so awful it's not even funny.
At least seems like they realized their mistakes in DS2, Dancer was amazing.
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>>124061196
>literally answering 23h later
Still that butthurt, huh?

>>124061227
Me too.
;_;
Well, at least I had fun with the game.
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>>124061269
I looked on the wiki and the last patch said it fixed it? Is it actually not?
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>>124060584
>>124061017
What are you doing?
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>>124061307
>last patch said it fixed it
It did? I'm sorry, my whip broke so fast I haven't noticed.
I'm not sure, you're better off asking someone who played it regularily and not someone who just recently restarted it.
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>>124061307
>>124061360

They didn't fix it, they just removed durability drain when hitting corpses.
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>>124061269
>Still that butthurt, huh?
I don't browse 4chan from home because I play vidya there.
>literally 23h later
You can't even count, son.
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What's a good youtube channel for Dark Souls lore?
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>>124061540
VaatiVidya
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA JUST KIDDING
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>>124061330
Listening to music and waiting to be summoned. You?
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>>124061540

Plague's.
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>relatively new to the game
>got on sale, did a few tester runs, furthest I've got is fighting pursuer, settle on build I like
>get to that bonfire next to the hag merchant, do a loop and blow up the wall for a shortcut
>walk through, kill the hollows, get invaded
>he's got a purple glowing giant sword and some very heavy sort of rock samurai looking armour on
>uses some sort of big black ball that chases me and I die in one hit
>right next to bonfire so don't lose anything apart from a human effigy

I thought matchmaking was based on SM? I only had 25k at the time so how did he match with me?
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>>124061540
EpicNameBro das1 lore videos are pretty good imo. Not even sure if he did das2 ones.
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>have trouble with 4 Jings
>decide to go to Crystal
>beat Seath first try
>he didn't even touch me

Is it cheating to just bow his pussy until he dies?
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>>124061642
This is PC community to you.
Especially DS2 community.
I never fucking saw so many cheaters in DS1 on pc aside from occasional trainer niggers.
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>>124061440
Oh. Is there no like, mod to fix this shit? I'd really like my weapons not to degrade stupidly fast. Man I feel duped, saw the patch note and thought it was fixed. It was part of the reason I bought it.
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>>124061642
Agape Ring.
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>>124061771

Well there's ds2fix.
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>>124061771
How do people find durability this much of an issue? Never had a problem with it even on vanilla.
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>grinding for items and upgrade material

Literally worst part of the series. It's total bullshit and should not exist.
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>>124061839
>>124061771

Oh, I think I should also mention that capping your framerate to 30 also fixes it.
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>>124061781
25k still wouldn't let you use hexs, you'd need way more SM just to use the spells, let alone equip a greatsword too

I was invaded by a havelshitter at a really low level too, hadn't even beaten pursuer. I saw him invade, noticed I'd have no chance so sprinted and ended up losing him. Summoned 4 shades by the bonfire and he got gangraped by chip damage kek
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>>124061925
Same here, but I guess that some insecure people need to be able to use the same fucking weapon all the time.

>>124062009
Couldn't they be minmaxing? You can use weapons even if you don't have the stats.
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>>124061925
>Get through half a level
>Weapon is one swing from breaking
>Can't consistently play with favourite weapon due to it breaking in a few dozen swings
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>>124062079
This. I shouldn't have to carry some other garbage or duplicate (and you can't always have a duplicate depending on the weapon, and if it uses something like petrified bones?) just because some fucking stupid double degrade mechanic for having proper 60 fps.

I'm not going to upgrade that many different weapons just because of it.

>>124061839
ds2fix fine or is that softbun risky.
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>>124062079
>putting all your eggs in the same basket
>not having a bathtube of weapons ready
Pleb. You say you like weapons, but I've been born in them, raised by them.
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>>124061730

>defeat Seath effortlessly, even though he's supposed to be one of the Gods
>Die 5 times in a row to wheel skeletons

Why aren't people worshipping these guys?
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>>124062360
Listen buddy, I enjoy using a plethora of weapons, but I shouldn't be forced to switch between them just because I'm running at 60fps.
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>b-but fading memory
>b-but you will lose all and it will make no sense
>b-but undead Alzheimer's

>Tanimura: Yes, this game actually went through quite a troubled development process. Due to a number of factors we were actually forced to re-think the entire game midway into development. We really had to go back to the drawing board and think once more about what a Dark Souls game should be. It was at that point that I took on my current role, overseeing the entirety of the game including the art direction. To ensure we created the game both we and the fans wanted it was completely necessary, but it did of course create a problem. We had to decide what to do with the designs and maps that had been created up to that point. Ideally we’d start again from scratch but of course we were under time constraints so instead we had to figure out how to repurpose the designs in our newly reimagined game. This meant everything from deciding new roles for characters to finding ways to slot locations into the world map. This unusual development cycle faced us with an entirely different set of problems and looking back on the project as a whole it was at times, arduous. Although I’m confident that none of this will be felt by the players and I’m completely satisfied with the final product. So while I don’t think we need to dwell on it too much, in the interest of giving a full count of the development process it’s something we can’t avoid touching on.
>Tanimura: However, looking down from the top it was far too wide, that and the fact that there isn’t an adequate transition between locations meant we didn’t really communicate the idea as well as we could have.
http://peterbarnard1984.tumblr.com/post/113163062955/dark-souls-2-design-works-translation

DS2 DEFENSE FORCE BTFO
Fuck Bamco.
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>>124062558
>how dare the game MAKE me try new weapons
>THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Me and my wagon of weapons are laughing at you poorfag with your shitty sword scavenged on a body.
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>>124062050
>>124062079
Yeah but I never even had backup weapons or anything, I just never went that long without sitting at a bonfire at some point. Honestly confused as to how this happens, unless you are using weapons with super low durability.. But even on my rapier build it's pretty rare.
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>>124062687
At this point, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply.

When I played DaS2, I tried plenty of weapons, probably more on STR weapons than DEX though. Through trying all those different weapons I came to find several I enjoyed, which is how I got a favourite weapon. Regardless of that, even if you enjoy changing your weapon every fourth weapon, you can't deny that there's no reason to have such a terrible durability system.

No wait, of course you can, 'cus you're just being a shit disturber.
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>Painted world of everything hits like a freight train
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>>124063000
>At this point, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply.
Because deep inside you, you want me to understand you.
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>>124062995
at 60 fps on pc?
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How do the NPC offline invasions in ds2 work?
I want to get all the NPC to invade when possible but do any of them require me to use an effigy?
I get invaded sometimes but i don't know who i skipped
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>>124063108
Nah, in DaS2, you get invaded even when you're a hollow.
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>>124061196
>Legitimately good fight
>demon of song
Holy shit anon you have some terrible taste in fights, because that shit is dull and boring and only slightly above Covetus in terms of how braindead easy it is
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>>124063078
I'm pretty bored too. Either are reasonable explanations.
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>>124063251
If you were bored, you wouldn't be here.
Ergo, you're lying, ergo you're just craving for attention.
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>>124063305
Honestly, I'm just here to talk about DaS while I wait to be summoned. Or, was. I'm farming Titanite Chunks/Slabs in New Londo now. Pretty boring stuff not getting summoned for jolly co-operation.
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>>124063000
>you can't deny that there's no reason to have such a terrible durability system.
It's better than DaS1 and BB at the very least, because durability is an actual mechanic you have to worry about instead of the nothing it was in those games, especially in BB where you could repair items at every lantern by just going back to the dream.
It never costs a significant amount of souls to repair shit anyway, you should either have no durability at all or durability you should actually have to worry about, the "well I guess if you do 10 areas you might need to fix your weapon" system adds absolutely nothing to the game

Bracing knucke and repair powder exist for a reason.
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>>124063436
The cooperation system in Souls is pretty good when it works.
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>>124063153
So, as long as i walk into the areas they are supposed to spawn i'll get them all?
Nice.
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>>124063527
Gotta catch'em all, son.
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>every letter of my name is a different color
>forced my sm to 0 and invade in fofg
>dropping souls and items for new characters
>raining 0 damage, instant knockdown magic for a minute then bc out
>a few people add me and ask for help with bosses
>but one person goes full autism and says that im ruining the community and fucked his character
>mfw
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>>124063516
>The cooperation system in Souls is pretty good
It's really not though.
Most enemies don't know how to deal with multiple opponents, the only upgrade they get is extra health and sometimes a little more defense, no new moves no new unique spawns to make it more challening nothing.
Same applies to bosses, most can be utterly trivialized by just having more targets because they don't know how to deal with it.

Don't get me wrong coop and helping people out is great and the games would be worse off without it but it's a very half assed system, there should be more to it other than a semi-cheat that just lets you beat areas you are having trouble with.
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>>124063587
I wanna be the very best
like no other hollow ever was
to parry them is my real test
to get souls is my cause
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>>124063681
That's what makes it good.
Just like the despawning enemies in DaS2, it's a system that rewards patience and allow you to keep progressing even if you lack the skills.
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>>124063516
It's seemingly better now that isn't off GFWL. My roomie can summon me before I even finish the animation for putting down my sign.

Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of luck with being summoned otherwise. I guess there just aren't that many folks around the low level areas these days. I started playing again a couple days ago, and aside from my roomie, I've been summoned twice.

>>124063681
Maybe DaS3 will have some new mechanics, instead of DaS2's hamfisted; put in more enemies to make encounters more challenging.
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>>124063651
I love doing fun shit like that. Don't sweat it if some people sperg out.
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>demon crows 1 hit kills
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>>124063681
I'd really love if they updated mob or at least boss AI to keep track of multiple players. Maybe make them use sweep and AOE attacks more when surrounded by multiple enemies.
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>>124063927
Should Dark Souls be a undeveloped chick without one leg?
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>>124063797
>instead of DaS2's hamfisted; put in more enemies to make encounters more challenging.
What on earth does that have to do with summons?

Littereally the only case in which it happens ins the bridge where you get 2 invaders if you have 2+ phatoms
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**roll**
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>>124064167
roll
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>>124064167
So you have the roll-to-draw picture too?
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> Red Sign Soapstone

What is this and why am I getting this near the end of the game?
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>>124064037
What I was trying to say, is that it would be nice to see new mechanics to increase the difficulty of multiplayer. DaS2 seemed to have the idea that if you increase the number of enemies, that makes for an enjoyable challenge. It didn't.
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>>124064414
You're like only halfway through if you're the painted world guy.
And it's for invasions but the host can choose to be invaded instead of you showing up forcibly, so for honorable duels.
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>>124064167
Fatrolling.
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>>124064414
Honourable Dickwraith-ery. Let's people summon you as a Red Phantom.
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>>124064540
>Bandit, swords, no magic.
Oh look it's what I always fucking do. Rerolling, fuck.
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Which DS2 DLCs are good? Doing Crown of the Old Iron King right now, and it's kinda shit.
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>>124065054
All of them or you just have bad taste.
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>>124065447
>enemies that instantly jump out of snow and hit you for third of HP
>tower with 2 regenerating cursed armors, ice dudes and fog that curses you constantly
>not bad design
I'm glad you think I got bad taste. Coming from a person with such a shitty taste, it sounds like a compliment.
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>>124064167
rolling for my entire first play through of SOTFS
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>killing Vendrick with Dex build

christ this feels impossible, 4 giant souls and still each hit is barely a 1/50th of his health
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>>124064167
roll
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Anons I bought Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the Sin edition today, it's my first Souls game and I can only describe it with "frustrating". My biggest problem with this game is that I have no idea what I am doing or where I am supposed to go, the game gives you dozens of paths to follow and never tells you where you really are supposed to go. Am I missing something? It's also a pain in the ass to play the game with 50% health when I would actually die with 100%. And I realized that if I am in human form I can summon other players, but that looks pointless as fuck because if you die ONCE then you will already be hallowed, so just who is ever going to call for help?

What do? I'm about to look up a walkthrough
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I'm so excited! I'm on my way to pick up my copy of Demon souls now. Bought a ps3 yesterday, gonna get started soon.
Tell me, is Demon Souls better than Dark Souls, or is it reversed?
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>>124064167
reeeee
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>>124066089
What have you done so far?
Also, yes there are alot of paths to take, but if you just stick to one of them you'll eventually reach its end, and then you start on nother path
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>>124065054
They're all regarded as top-tier in terms of level design, atmosphere, bosses, and they all have really really good items in them. You just don't get it. Summon someone if you can't get through it solo.

>>124066089
Stop! I know the game may be frustrating now but your interest will be killed permanently if you look up a walkthrough. Try to power through it.
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>>124063651
They are right, I'd hate if someone did that to me, I'd probably just sell the items
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>>124066089
It's an open world game, the game doesn't tell you where to go because all areas are possible at any level if you're skilled enough. If you want an "intended" route however look up game progress on a wiki.

Lots of people co-op, it makes the game much easier to the point where you shouldn't really die at all.
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>>124066089
Unless SotFS changed something, there's literally only two ways to go in DaS2.

I'm pretty biased, as I didn't get much enjoyment from DaS2. However, if you're stuck you should look at what you keep dying to and figure out a way around it, or a different way to engage it. If you're stuck on a boss, summoning other players can help you. Summoning in general is pretty handy.

Alternatively, you can try putting down a sign of your own and getting summoned. You have a lot less to worry about when you're a phantom.
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>>124066089
>Am I missing something?
No, the first area is just that frustrating and game indeed doesn't tell you where you're supposed to go until you get in last half of the game. Bear with it, it gets better after Forest of Fallen Giants which is a lowpoint of the game, in my opinion.
And Shrine of Winter pass can go fuck itself.
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>>124065054
CotSK is good, has my favourite boss in the game.

It's pretty hard though, the bonfires are all hidden so it can be very frustrating going through blind.
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>>124066249
>the game doesn't tell you where to go because all areas are possible at any level if you're skilled enough
No, it doesn't tell you anything because it's poorly designed. DS1 had the same open world like structure, yet something always pointed you in right direction, Catacombs aside.
>Hey Undead. You want to lift the curse? I dunno, go meet the king, I guess. Bye now.
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>>124066223
After arriving at that city, I went to Heide's Tower because it looked like the obvious correct route, but after seeing three huge ass knights trying to kill me at the same time (when I could BARELY kill a single one) I realized that I was sort of on the wrong path. So I did some more exploration and found the forest of giants, which seems to be much, much easier. However, I am still "stuck" there and only found the first bonfire after like three hours of exploration, although I did find tons of itens such as a fire sword, a ring of stamina and that item which allows you to be summoned to other games.

I think I'll just let someone summon me and see what path I am supposed to take. Problem is, I did that three times and people usually just die halfway, so I guess I have to be lucky and find someone that is not a shitlord like me
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>>124066421
>ring a bell above and below
>go to sen's
>here is where the final boss will be

the only direction you are ever given in ds1
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>>124066421
Look man I like DaS1 a lot but you're just a hypocrite if you act like the typical progression for both DaS1 and 2 aren't exactly the same.
DaS2 also has more areas to go in the beginning than 1, so you can even argue that there's an even easier path to progression because every NPC in Majula tells you outright that there are 4 areas to get the great souls, and then the castle.
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>>124066089
>First souls game is DaSII
Shit nigga what are you doing

>I can only describe it with "frustrating"
That's normal for a newcomer, that's how I saw it the first time I played a Souls game
When I say get gud, I mean it, because you NEED to get a hold of the game
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>>124066526
Yet how many times were you lost in DS1?
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>>124066554
Not that guy, but please explain how DaS2 has more options in the beginning than 1.
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>>124066089
Yeah I bought it while it was on sale too. Had only played a bit of DaS1 and didn't have a controller for my PC handy so I put it off.

I've gotten past the frustrating part you're at. It's difficult. You have to be really on top of your game. You can die at the same place 5 times in a row before you see what you're supposed to do then get past it, then die at the next part and have to repeat it.

But it's fun, and once you get past that beginning it's easier.
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>>124066554
NPCs? I barely found any useful NPCs. Their mechanic seems retarded as fuck actually, most of them apparently have something to say or items to give me but apparently I have to spam the conversation button several times until they finally spit it out. I found that because I was trying to figure out how to level up until I googled it and the wiki told me I had to spam conversation with that woman until she finally decided to show up her menu.
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>>124066554
>DaS2 also has more areas to go in the beginning than 1

>Catacombs
>Undead Burg
>New Londo


>Forest of Fallen Giants
>Heide's Tower
>Shaded Woods (if you get past the statue, not likely at the beginning)
>that hole (If you have enough souls to buy the cat ring, not likely)
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>>124064167
someone add this to the OP
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>>124066554
>typical progression for both DaS1 and 2 aren't exactly the same.

Progression in DS1
>go ring the bell, it's in the tower above and then below
>go to Anor Londo
>go get souls and bring them back (game shows locations of unlocked areas)
>final area opens

Progression in DS2
>go meet the king
>You killed the giant? Well, get 4 great souls.
>go to the castle now
And that's all. Where is the castle? Where are 4 souls? It doesn't tell you where to go, just go. The game as big as DS2 requires better objectives than "well, go and get a thing, whatever".
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>>124066714
It's not a retarded mechanic, they expect you to exhaust every NPC's dialogue because it's the only rare interaction you get with characters in the game. Why wouldn't you?

It's even more important in the first game as you can't progress questlines without thoroughly talking to them each encounter.
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>>124066875
Protip those are the same vague hinty bullshit that a blind player would have to look up a walkthrough to understand either way, the only reason why DaS2's is bad is because it's DaS2. Hypocrites, the lot of you.
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>>124066770
>Catacombs
>New Londo
>Undead Burg
>Blighttown
>Valley of the Drakes
>Darkroot Basin
>Darkroot Garden
>Undead Parish
>Undead Asylum
>Great Hollow
>Ash Lake

All of these areas can be accessed without defeating a boss.
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>>124066875
it's pretty obvious if you actually expore shaded woods

the shrine door tells you that you require greater souls or something to that effect
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>>124066947
>same vague hinty bullshit that a blind player would have to look up a walkthrough to understand either way
DS1 doesn't even require a guide unless you try to go to Catacombs first and won't be able to figure out what you're doing wrong. It always shows or tells you where to go. You ring the bells, it shows you how gates are open. You get the soul vessel, it shows you which areas are now available. Granted, Abyss was retarded, but at least you know you have to jump down, you don't spend a shitload of time figuring out where is that hole exactly.

Quit shitposting.
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>>124066570
>Shit nigga what are you doing
Am I supposed to start with DS1? Does it make any difference? I sort of get the "story" of the game:

>I'm some Undead guy
>I want souls so I won't go full hallow soul devorer mode
>therefore I kill stuff for their souls (which is what I would be trying to avoid, what the fuck)
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>>124066947
>Got to the castle and meet king Vendrick
>Get to the castle
>See phantom guy
>You want to talk to the king? Go ahead
>Can't see Vendrick
>Get to Nashandra
>Good to see you, meet the King
>Alright but I can't find him
>Turns out he was in ANOTHER map
>mfw
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>>124067126
Okay, so how's that different from DaS2?
You know I'm right, they were both designed the same way.
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>>124067038
>Blighttown
>Valley of the Drakes
>Darkroot Basin
>Darkroot Garden
>Great Hollow
>Ash Lake

If you have a master key, sure. An item added to the game solely to speed up repeated playthroughs.
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>>124067152
DaS1 doesn't reduce your life with each death, stats are more consistent, ADP bullshit doesn't exists.
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>>124067038
Yeah, but you need to start with one item or be thief, which is unlikely for a newbie, so I i didn't mentioned it
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