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>>123793642
prev thread
>>123519418
Well, now we have a winning OP Image.
dmc5 when
>>123796367
same day when they decide to make rival schools 2
>>123796607
That exists though. It's called Project Justice. I think you mean Rival Schools 3.
And it's obvious that Ryu killed the thread. /cgg/ ain't good enough.
>>123797241
Ok.
Question here. Some people will do their entries on VST, and while it is obvious that most of cgg is dmc players (i play dmc myself too, is just not my main game), and that most entries will probably be dmc entries, i have a question.
You, reading this, as a watcher, i don't know what is the game that you play the most, or how well you know the games on the list, but if there is an entry, of a game that you don't know, how you judge that video?
>>123797694
The sad truth is most people here can only understand DMC at any technical level, so when presented with footage from other games they don't mind attention to it because it's not as flashy or perhaps because they just don't understand why any other particular game is impressive
Not trying to bait, it's the honest truth
>>123797694
If I like it or not. That simple.
Most people, if they are here, they have a more than average understand of how cuhrayzee games work and a decent good taste of what makes up a creative usage of the games' tools.
>>123797694
I automatically vote for anything that isn't DMC4 Dante.
ILLEGAL
RAW
MILK
>>123803835
Nice meme Reuben
>>123797694
>but if there is an entry, of a game that you don't know, how you judge that video?
I try to see the skill and effort a player put in. The thing is that without some normal gameplay to contrast the skillful play it's hard to judge. I guess that's why I'll be focusing on making something that is enjoyable to watch instead of showing off my "skill"
>>123797694
It's a good question, but taking VST seriously is a bit dumb. It's totally subjective, and most people will want to vote for shit that moves in flashy ways, no matter how easy that might be to pull off. I'm kind of annoyed by the excessive focus on air combat and a player that moves around 3 times as fast as any enemy. As long as the enemy doesn't get up it's still a combo imo desu senpai
>>123807483
>As long as the enemy doesn't get up it's still a combo imo desu senpai
Combos that involve enemies hitting the ground aren't really that impressive unless there's a specific setup for it.
>>123807776
And this is why everyone only cares about DMC, because "hitting the ground" somehow takes away from the fact that you are in control of the enemy apparently.
>>123807776
Well, some games have ground bounces and sweeps, so working with grounded enemies is just as valid as air juggling one enemy.
>>123803835
what does that meme mean?
>>123808114
i want ground bounces so hard on dmc5. there's something about hitting someone so hard that they go up that clicks my brain.
>>123807880
>because "hitting the ground" somehow takes away from the fact that you are in control of the enemy apparently.
It doesn't but that still doesn't change what I've said.
>>123808114
That's why I added the "unless there's a specific setup for it". Certain games can get away with letting enemies touch the floor after they are being juggled. But like I said before, generally speaking it's not as impressive unless you have a plan for it.
>>123808397
>>123808389
>>123808114
>>123807880
>>123807776
>>123807483
This is the actual problem with VST, people only want to see juggles and other flashy gimmicks where you render the enemy immobile
>>123808570
I am >>123808389 and you couldn't be more wrong.
>>123807776
>Combos that involve enemies hitting the ground aren't really that impressive unless there's a specific setup for it.
In dmc it aint, but it depends on the particular game you're looking at.
>>123808570
I am >>123808114 and what i look foward more to traditional entries, because i really love the idea of dealing with an enemy or a set of enemies in a very stylish way.
I like combos too, and to me a combo is hitting an enemy and keeping him in a state where he can't fightback (hitstun, knockdown, or juggle state), so, to me, combos are more than juggles.
>>123808397
>. Certain games can get away with letting enemies touch the floor after they are being juggled
I prefer it when games do this but if they don't it can still be a cool game. Not everything is about combos.
>>123808897
You can still do impressive stuff while letting the enemy hit the ground.
>>123809046
Well when we are at a place like /cgg/, it is.
Keep in mind that: all combos =/= juggles.
>>123810238
Well, that combo only hits the ground at the very end. It's safe to say that hitting the ground after the initial launch, is a rare thing in DMC4 combos.
>>123810385
It's a common thing in DMC4 combos though.
>>123810238
Hot damn, a combo where Lucifer is actually used as intended? Well colour me surprised
>>123810704
Hmmm. Actually yeah, I guess you're right.
>>123810714
Weird Frost-specific rebounds? What do you mean?
And when is it not used as intended?
>>123810704
source?
>>123811196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsMYpvrUSjg
>>123810714
But Lucifer is used like that all the time.
>>123811031
Placing down pins to act as traps/mines, instead everyone always just uses it to either
>shit out pins with forward+melee three times and then stab them all into a single enemy
Or
>Repeatedly JC air attack to spinspinspin, then lucifer glitch
Oh and let's not forget repeatedly cherry tapping with the rose, because that totally didn't get old 7 years ago
>>123811650
>Placing down pins to act as traps/mines
That's done all the fucking time. Holy shit where have you been?
>>123811972
Watching the wrong stuff apparently
>>123811972
>tfw I'll never be good enough to play like this.
I think I'm just retard, you know. Fuck.
>>123812784
At least you got a good taste in ass
>>123812784
is that the chick from youtube with the giant ass?
>>123813908
You mean mal malloy
AKA; mallory maloy
AKA; the ass
AKA; the buttqueen
AKA butts over brawn
AKA; The Buttjob princess
AKA han solo sees the death star for the first time.jpg
AKA; Butthand
AKA; Buttocks gaiden sigma
AKA; Makai buttin 2
AKA; Wonderful O1O
AKA; Buttonetta?
No that's not her. This is some other lard ass.
Okay, next objective, dominate Angel Slayer, and learn how to properly fight Jeanne.
I have more mastery over Rodin than Jeanne, is kinda funny.
If vanquish is crazy then what about armored core
>>123819561
>if x is crazy then what about y
can we not do this
>>123819561
kill yourself
>>123812215
Still watching those 2008 videos I see.
>>123822579
>Still watching those 2008 videos I see.
Hey, at least you dmc guys have combo videos made after 2010 to watch...
So I'm playing DmC (the Ninja Theory game, PC 60fps version), and I'm surprisingly having fun
I find it harder than the "regular" DMCs because the enemies actually attack you
what does /cgg/ think about DmC? are people still mad about it?
>>123822832
shit b8 m8
>>123822832
nice b8
>>123822832
>because the enemies actually attack you
lol
as someone who went through that game on DMD as both characters, the games a fucking joke lol
>>123822832
This is why the Vergin dick ad was a bad idea
>>123822832
I think DmC DE is ok, and better than DMC 1 &2
>>123823592
>better than DMC2
ok
>better than DMC1
nice samefag
>>123823472
>the games a fucking joke lol
what do you mean exactly by "a fucking joke" ?
difficulty-wise?
I'm not on DMD yet
>>123823716
Go to bed Kamiya.
>>123823832
BLOCKED!
>>123822832
not bait
let me elaborate
I also like the visual design of the game
the world is colorful, the locations are varied and pretty unique, the world/Limbo trying to catch Dante is well done
in comparison, DMC4 feels like a slightly up-rezed PS2- generation game that was rushed to make it to the next gen (PS360), with its tiny rooms and corridors
I'm a little bummed that there are no kicks with the gauntlets (Eryx) like in the other DMCs, but on the other hand, I like that there is visual feedback when you charge its attacks (giant fire fists come out)
are Transformers Devastation and Legend of Korra cuhrayzee?
haven't played them, legitimately curious
>>123823768
basically everything, but difficulty especially.
http://pastebin.com/2FXP4B5t
not gonna lie i really didn't mind donte's "fuck you" attitude but thats mainly because i skipped through every cutscene so i don't really know how he acts
>>123824464
>tiny rooms and corridors
this is what DMC is and (should) always be though, it stemmed from resident evil after all.
>rushed
yeah we know
>>123824596
transformers is alright, i wouldn't pay full price for it though
korra is shit
>>123824464
>visual design
subjective + you must have shit eyes if you like them muddy textures and pop in
>I like there is visual feedback
subjective + DMC4's Gilgamesh have visual feedback + allowed just-charges
Devil May Cry 4 would be so good if it was a finished product.
I'm talking about level design here, i really enjoy the enviroments created in dmc 4, the problem is the tactics used to keep the player in the same place for long time (dice, gyro blade, etc).
Imagine, Nero campaign, maybe with the same stages, or maybe with 2 or 3 extra stages instead of the dice and gyro blade puzzles. And then, a whole campaign with dante, with him fighting his own bosses, and a 2 sided final boss battle, where you use both nero and dante, in something really good, well, to be fair, i can't believe that the level design would be good if the game came out complete anyways, but is nice to imagine.
But i feel that it was good to avoid the whole game happening in one big enemy place like in dmc 1 and 3.
Also, a proper campaign would also mean more varied enemy designs, which is also a good thing.
>>123717067
nobody cared that you had a trip, everyone cared that you were fucking paincloud being the idiotic dumbass you always are
that being said, shut the fuck up paincloud
Getting footage for this fight is a bit painful.
Not because of them, but because you only have 3 tries to even get good footage but have to survive an onslaught of 4 difficult areas preceding this and keep the 3 tries.
There's a high chance of it being Vortex defends. It's worse when it's the triple vortex.
This moment pretty much summed up my feelings.
>>123831364
I know that pain
well not for that game but still
>>123835220
>20 mins
>page 9
this fucking board moves too fast for such a niche general
>>123796367
after the HD re-release of God Hand for PC X1 PS4, announcement of God Hand 2, DmC DMC 2 by Team Ninja is confirmed and VJ gets a true sequel
>>123837913
It was confirmed recently that the reboot was shelved for now, so my guess is DMC5 soon. Hopefully soon.
>>123838525
>confirmed recently that the reboot was shelved for now
sauce?
>>123839060
http://devilmaycry.org/threads/ninja-theory-replies-to-a-tweet-concerning-dmc-sequel.17916/
Ninja Theory is currently busy with a new IP so they're basically saying "maybe some day".
>>123839937
>devilmaycry.org
anon, why
>2014
>recent
damn it. I was hoping for an article from 2015 where NT tearfully says that their next baby was aborted.
speaking of new IP how many of you are planning to try out Hellblade either legally or not-so legally?
>>123797694
pick one that looks near impossible to replicate twice.
>>123837070
actually thats about normal. we hit page 10 at usually 35 mins. Once we hit page 9 or 10, it takes an additional 15 - 30 mins due to the other generals usually hitting bump limit and waiting for a new thread to be created.
>>123841375
going to watch a lets play of it. NT games normally have ok combat but not enough to make me play it for however long the campaign is
>>123837070
>>123843841
It really is...
>>123844315
I'd sugest /cgg/ takes a one week vacation.
And holy shit, I don't know how many anons do it, but stop acting like such huge edgelords.
>>123824865
>donte's "fuck you" attitude
Ninja Theory's dog-shit writing aside, people overblow the "fuck you" too much. He's just boring as a character, no memorable linesfuck you ain't memorable, you fucks turned it into a meme, no memorable actions, just nothing.
>>123846942
What I don't understand is why Ninja Theory thought it was a good idea to not make a single action cutscene demonstrating the extend of their powers.
No creativity at all.
Meanwhile, I still remember DMC3's Tower Dive like it was yesterday.
>>123824865
>tiny rooms and corridors
>this is what DMC is and (should) always be
>it stemmed from Resident Evil after all
I don't see how the game's origin matters much in the grand scheme of things. I would prefer to see larger but focused environments for fighting like Mission 17's streets for Dante.
>>123808389
>what does that meme mean?
in E3 2015's Capcom Unity stream, uncle Reuben joined the fun. There was a question asking if he was vegan, he said he wasn't 100% since he eats certain meat and the illegal raw milk.He also confirmed he likes to play as Lady the most, Dante X Lady when
Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z vs DmC DMC (vanilla, for last-gen consoles)
both games feature a foul mouthed dullard of a protagonist
both games are the last games released in their respective franchiseignoring Special Edition
both have nearly fuck all to do with the series they are associated with
both were made by gaijin western devs
both were created with unlikable individuals at the helmKeiji Inafune, Tameem Antoniades
both feature wubtastic soundtrack
both feature gameplay that are dumbed down or neutered
both games have little to no chance of sequel
gun to your head, which would you play?Suicide is an option
>>123850497
DmC. At least I had fun with it. Yaiba looks completely retarded with autism for combat.
>>123850497
Yaiba Z.the game was developed by blind monkeys (aka Spark Unlimited) so I already expected it to be shit. But Hayabusa went unmolested so the game is a cake with no frosting at worst.
>>123808570
I'm all in for using ground moves, they need more appreciation.
Is NG3 really that worse or it was just casuals bashing the game?
Don't care for story, only gameplay-wise. I'm about to order the modern NGs and want to know if 3 is worth it.
Also, should I even give vanilla a chance or just go to Razor's Edge?
I watched some clips of Yaiba and... Well, should I get it? Does the combat evolve past retard enemies?
>>123854362
just go for Razor's Edge
Yaiba doesn't evolve at all. Later on you get elemental enemies that are kind of interesting to mess with but not really, and the game is basically God of War but with zombies and featuring Ryu from the Ninja Gaiden series
https://youtu.be/D8sO65RL-8M
anybody weeb enough to understand this?
>>123860302
What the fuck, DMC3 is rated M for Mature? I never knew that shit.or did you change it?
>>123860879
What were you expecting?
>>123860879
Senpai, did you forget the warning at the startup of the game where Dante kicks the screen?
>>123860879
I guess nevan teasing dante and dante and vergil fighting while their blood spills all over the place was enough...
>>123826313
>>123861163
T for Teen?
>>123861214
I always skipped it except for the kicking part.
>>123861657
I see. Just a frame of it onscreen changes everything.
>>123862735
At least it's just a pathetic cash grab for shit you really don't need to buy at all. It could have been so much worse.
>>123862905
>It could have been so much worse
It could have been so much more/better
>>123854362
3RE isnt terrible but vanilla 3 definitely is
>>123854582
>>123864740
Thanks.
>>123846942
The best piece of writing in that game is at the end of Under Watch.
"Heh, that dragged on forever".
But they absolutely ruined the line immediately afterwards with "Church, get it?"
It went from an actually pretty witty, dante-esque joke, to a dumbass literally explaining the joke afterwards.
>>123857625
I posted the link the other day, but Plat was looking for interns, and this is a manga tying into that.
>>123866601
>manga Kamiya
I need this. And I want anime Kamiya
![onechanbara-z2-chaos-08-01-15-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V7FeygZ.jpg "onechanbara-z2-chaos-08-01-15-1[1].jpg")
Onechanbara Z2 Chaos is Cuhrayzee
Prove me wrong
>>123869670
Last I checked on the strawpoll, about 2/3 ~ 3/4 thought the game was cuhrayzee and wanted more discussion regarding it. Only 2 or 3 people own the gameI miss the oneechansbecause I don't think many of us own a PS4it has no games, meme
>>123869670
maybe it is?
>>123870108
>>123869978
>>123869670
Onechanbara Z2 us crazy, COOL combos and switch-cancels galore
What it isn't is sexy. It's one of the least sexy games I've ever played.
>>123870472
>It's one of the least sexy games I've ever played
I want to play it for the gameplay anyways
>>123871201
Look at all that extra shit preventing that bikini from being sexy
The cowboy hat and feather boa prevent you from seeing her face, the belt and trick swords fuck up her hip and waist profile, every sexy part of her is obstructed and the design is so busy that you can barely tell what you're looking at half the time
>>123871201
>>123870472
>>123870108
>>123869978
>>123869670
Show gameplay faggots
>>123871475
I miss the oneechans
>>123871852
Is this confirmation you're a faggot?
>>123873810
why, yes. I am gay. Why you ask?
>>123874018
Why not post gameplay instead of shitpost?
ILLEGAL
RAW
MILK
>>123871475
ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAg1dLbJgI
>>123869670
>Z2 Choas
Well I'm not the Z2 Onechans, I'm annoying NOchan who talks a lot of shit related to VST. My version of the game happens to be superior.
There are so major key differences to both NOchan and Onechan that I'd like to confirm/ deconfirm with the Onechans. I can't record anything until Friday so you'll have to wait, but I can say one thing; NOchan has NONONO and she's fucking cuhrayzee. Reminds me a lot of Gene. I don't know, I mean I imagine someone like Gene using her moveset in a God Hand game.
Also, did the Onechans ever mention the Dodge Offset in this game? That shit alone has depth.
>>123879976
>Let me juggle an enemy for 40 minutes
After all this time, this has to be a joke at this point right? We've wasted god knows how many threads going over this and it still keeps happening.
>>123879976
>Post a Dynasty fag playing Onechan like a Dynasty fag
No justice at all.
>>123881072
Z2 has dodge offset as well.
Not only does it have dodge offset, it also has trick offset (using circle moves will not interrupt your combo). So with Saki you can do your COOL combo, cancel it into the parry to fuck up a crowd, then continue your combo or dodge into a crowd to continue your combo.
>>123881958
I haven't even tried that out yet with Saki because she's DLC and I spent my last Yen on all the DLC outfits, I know, I know, but I couldn't resist man. it does work with Saaya, Kagura, and NONONO, though. Kagura's boomerang even has a glitched that allows me to reset it even when it's out.
I notice in your WebMs after playing the game that Skills have been exaggerated to the point that they remind me of Super moves rather than assist or just another move with special properties. Other than that, not having a devil trigger form, NONONO and no 4 characters on the fly, I don't see any real difference so far.
I wish /cgg/ was about /cgg/ instead of "I need to post about this game and I will whine and derail thread after thread until you do"
>>123884671
I wish /cgg/ had less people trying to discourage players from trying out and discussing new games that might be worth it.
>>123884671
I found the guy who lacks the ability to ignore people (I know from experience), maybe this is him.
Not saying there's something wrong with anon wanting to see more Onechanbara, I'm saying that you or another guy always feel the need to give them attention via your own special announcement acknowledging their existence. Stop that you fucking retard.
>>123884671
I'd rather people talk about new games they're trying as opposed to letting it devolve into "DMC 5 when ;_;" and lorefagging like it does most of the time
>>123847716
Because the #1 complaint about DMC cutscenes is that Dante flips out and does stuff you never get to do in-game.
>>123847716
>DMC3's Tower Dive
It's a good thing that was never demonstrated on SONY front stage. "And here we have Dante taking on this giant enemy whale." Then again whales are cooler than crabs plus it's a flying whale.stfu you faggots I know it's Leviathan
>>123885359
I think it's a necessary evil. People who come here regularly know that it's a defense mechanism and will just keep posting and not give a fuck. It's also part of everyone's skeptisism. heck I even posted about FFxv a while back and apart from one person everyone was nice about it. Especially so considering the subject matter.
At the same time I found the response to new games favorable. The only thing that concerns me is people not seeing beyond dmc4 type flashy gameplay. cuhrayzee is possible in any game imo and it would make the threads a bit more lighthearted if we went and tried more different things.
>>123887064
but you can do almost everything in game too
>>123887946
I've been hear for awhile and all I remember is this:
Tranformers Anon: I has no gameplay footage but there's a pastbin!
Kritikanon: Guys my shitty Korean MMO is cuhrayzee, I promise! Your games are shit!
Tales Anon: Fuck you guys and your cuhrayzee games! Then comes back acting like he's some other guy anfd that he didn't pull a Kritikaon.
GoW anon: I don't even remember what this guy said. We kinda run him off the moment he brought up GoW
SpiderMan Anon: Probably the first cool guy, what happened to him?
Shinobi Anon: We killed him
Anarchy Reigns gangs: Somehow this shit made it in by sheer force then was executed recently.
EL Shaddai(?): I don't remember
PSO2 Anon: The second cool dude
BnS Anon: The third
Onechanbara: The most recent cool dude
FFXV Anon: We said this game isn't cuhrayzee, then weapon switching was confirmed or some shit, so now Anon is fighting to prove otherwise
Indie Anons: We suck their dicks!
>>123847716
>Tower Dive
It was fucking awesome,
>hey, Dante just powered up
>so you see, here is him breaking re-entry speed
>>123889775
This is how I remember it
>Tales Anon: Was reasonable about it at first, but was shat on hard for some reason. Started shitposting after.
>SpiderMan Anon: Who's this? Which spiderman game?
>Shinobi Anon: Poor guy honestly tried his best. I feel you man
>Anarchy Reigns gangs: Online died within a week and no one gave a flying fuck
>PSO2 Anon: Trying really hard to explain everything, and was a legit good guy, but still didn't hold my or anyone else's attention for more than a moment because of the actual game.
>Onechanbara: Not touching this one. There might have been some legit samefagging.
>FFXV Anon: This is me. Was trying to get people to look at it from a different perspective because it was shot down so quickly by some. Absolutely did not try to apply it for cuhrayzee status. Just wanted people to discuss the gameplay mechanics with.
>Indie Anons: We suck their dicksAs long as they know what they're talking about.
>>123889775
If FFXV ends up being cuhrayzee, holy shit... If they balance strategy with flashy combos, I'm back on fucking with FF. I hope that's the reason why you can only play as Sasuke.
>>123890346
Thank you, anon.
>>123889775
>GoW
I feel that the only thing that game lacks is a cancel system.
>Tales of
I like those games
>PSO2
Feels like a cool game but MMO.
>BnS
I want to play this. Badly.
>Kritika
I want to play this.
>Onechanbara
I can't stand the game. Bikini-clad girls fighting zombies. 2weaboo4me.
>El Shaddai
Seemed like a cool game, judging from what I remember from the demo.
>Shinobi
I have fond memories of the PS2 gaimu.
>>123891489
>As long as they know what they're talking about.
>Implying they do
>>123841375
not planning for sure. to me it seems like wannabe deep and cool french(thats important!) game like remember me
>>123842469
>NT games normally have ok combat
>enslaved literally has 1 attack combo and 1 projectile attack
Yeah I dunno brah
>>123897342
I don't want to burst any bubbles before they reach their maximum size, but they mostly dont.
Then again i can't program for shit so I'm not one to talk. I'd make the best game mechanics ever.
>>123898271
"They don't know shit."
"I say this based on me not knowing jackfuck."
"If I knew squat, I'd make the best game mechanics."
"I base this on me knowing absolutely fuckall."
speak of the devil
>>123891489
>SpiderMan Anon: Who's this? Which spiderman game?
I think it was Web of Shadows on the PS2.
>>123898878
indie dev detected
>>123899651
Fuck that. I wish I was. I just draw pretty pictures.
>>123899630
Took a look at it. Seems like a good time and it has some juggles but it also looks pretty wonky. I'll try it out sometime.
Spiderman 2 had some legit cuhrayzee swinging mechanics. Too bad it runs like ass on emulators.
Figured I'd do a more serious entry for bujingai like I had joked about around VST6, but I can't stomach this shit. The input lag is horrible and I don't feel like doing any practice. Currently have 1 game in my vst entry. A bit meager, but at least it's not dmc4.
>>123900125
>art designer thinks he has any credibility in a game development process
Go home and make some happy mistakes bob
>>123889775
Wait. El Shadai has good combat?
It's been picking my interest for a while.
>>123900125
show us anon
Happy holidays and such, /cgg/
Been a while since I stopped by to talk about Mayhem League, so I figured I'd pay a visit!
There's a lot of new stuff here (apart from level design progress); an overhaul of wallrunning/parkour, dash-to-melee special attacks, finishers, etc.
But by far the most significant change (at least from /cgg/'s perspective) is the armor power system.
The player's attacks build his combo meter (and damage decreases it); if he fills it past maximum, he gains "overcharge" which, when it maxes out, increases his power level. There are a number of gameplay mechanics tied into this (for example, juggling already-dead enemies yields less score but far more overcharge)
Previously, this increase gave you a boost to pre-multiplier damage and to speed (movement and attack). Now, in addition, various abilities are unlocked/upgraded with armor power. So when you start you can only do basic stuff... by armor power 8, you can double-jump 5x in a row, use bullet time, launch energy waves from your melee attacks, teleport with quick attacks, etc.
So it's sort of like Red-Orb/Halo skill unlocking, but rather than being a whole-game process, it's tied into each playthrough individually. Playing better early on will grant you more power early on, which means you can complete certain objectives and face stronger enemies more easily. It also provides a nice incentive not to get hit even when not in a combo (since there's no HP, but the armor deduction can really suck).
Seen here with a debug command shortcut racheting up the armor power since we don't have time to show the whole pattern.
>>123902204
can i suck your dick?
>>123902204
do you have a blog? tumblr? twitter?
>>123902769
No but I post on /agdg/ regularly, if you're actually interested in my progress I suggest you stop by once a day and ctrl+f "Mayhem" to see if anything comes up, I guess.
>>123902517
I'd have to ask my husband, but probably, if you can get down here.
>>123901038
Wish I was bobross as well.
>>123901919
I've done it before here on the thread. Posted the chick with the red hair and asked if people would crazy with her. Also posted the wall 1"-punching animation.
>>123902204
did you improve the animations as well? Feels less slippery compared to the last stime you posted
>>123903416
There may be a few things at play here.
One is that the game jumps up to armor power 5 which means an increase in total play speed.
Another might be that I've made some optimizations that improve framerate which makes things look better.
But by far I'd say the biggest change is some particle effect reworks, namely for attack impacts and attack swipes, which makes them look bigger, rounder, and more consistent even at low FPS (which I always get when running OBS to record a stream).
Rather than attacks looking limp or jittery because the sword's anim trail can't properly generate a curve at such a low framerate (it can only sample two positions per swing, for instance, and makes ugly lines), it has a 16-frame animated swipe effect which helps to suggest the curvature of each swing regardless of the framerate.
>>123903724
He still has that small "dead arm" issue I mentioned last time (Look at "Get Up"). But I really like your "Aeroprop" animation.
Is going backwards during Aeroprop a result of jump momentum, or inherent to that move?
>>123902204
OH!
Any Nier fans here? (Phrased another way: "Anyone here hype for Nier Automata?")
Because I'm totally adding Danmaku elements.
Now, in my defense, I had this idea BEFORE having any awareness of Nier. In fact, in addition to 2D sidescroll sections, I've got a level-zone actor written out which turns the player's dash into an overhead shmup (though the demo's level doesn't feature it). I'm a huge Ikaruga fan and had long considered incorporating bullet-hell elements into an action game because, as with my cuhrayzee-meets-arena-shooter-meets-speedrun-platformer thing, it's another genre of game that rewards fast reflexes and high situational awareness.
It's just that seeing it incorporated into the Nier Automata trailer, and then following that backwards through some amazing videos of the Danmaku elements of the original Nier, gave me confidence that it could totally work well.
Currently, we're just using laser beams, but I do intend to have slow-projectiles as well (probably shot by enemies) and at least one attack which causes the PLAYER to launch Danmaku wavesby breakdancing while using hands-and-feet projectile weapons
>>123889775
>tales comes back acting like some other guy
pls don't mistake me or the other cool tales guy for that dude. i'm pretty sure the original tales asshole was kritika/shitformers
>>123899630
pretty sure it was actually the (3?)ds version. he posted a couple of webms and got a resonable response but just straight up disappeared
>>123904919
sliding under the lasers looks cool as hell but i wouldn't really use that as an example of danmaku.
>>123905340
I played Web of Shadows (PS2) and had fun with it.
At the time, I play it with intention of developing shit but did get some cool stuff going.
I wonder how the PS360 versions play.
>>123902948
oh. well i already have you bookmarked then.
Where's that pic of red hair chick that modeling anon was using?
>>123904919
Why isn't this guy in the OP?
>>123906097
Not uploaded anywhere. Like I said last time, I need to get back to having an actual online presence and posting my stuff. Just haven't got around to it.
>>123906013
>I wonder how the PS360 versions play
plays like shit. Game's framrate is unatable even on PC with all the settings turned off. Gameplay feels like Transformers in the sense that the game goes slow-mo a lot but it has some interesting stuff like Suit-offset, and spiderman himself is fun to control when the game isn't shitting itself with the framerate
>>123906406
Because unlike WSW, I don't have an external site that can be linked to.
>>123906406
>>123902896
no way to follow him, apart for going to /agdg/ and hoping to see him
>>123908084
>>123908050
Not him but even without a newsite it still should be mentioned.
Probably not now since he hasn't got it set up online somewhere yet. But so far I'm liking it a lot more than WSW.
>>123908302
Hey now.
I appreciate the compliment a lot, genuinely and truly, but let's not disparage the efforts of WSWdev. He's put in a lot of really impressive effort to create something cool in the vein of God Hand that (unlike Mayhem League) shows a pretty high degree of originality.
As with Tetrachromadev, I respect the hell out of him and don't appreciate the comparison.
Just sayin'.
>>123905340
>sliding under the lasers looks cool as hell but i wouldn't really use that as an example of danmaku.
Yeah, fair enough.
I meant more because it's an example of "maze made of damaging elements arranged in an intricate pattern" but to be sure it doesn't feel Danmaku-y the same way a series of pulsed shots does.
>>123908921
Honestly when it comes to your games I kinda rated you as:
Mayhem League > Tetrachrome >>> WSW
My issues with WSW is that the game feels too slippery and air combat is extremely lenient. A bit less than Bayonetta even. Tetrachrome has a solid foundation so far but there's still a lot that needs to be worked with. Your game seems to have a ton of shit going for it due to a lot of different mechanics that you've implemented. The only problems I have with your game is that the animations needs to be fleshed out a bit more.
>>123909714
Well that's honestly a really kind thing to say, anon, and I appreciate it.
I feel like I'm doing the best I can with animations, but any SPECIFIC notes are really appreciated! I'm always trying to improve.
Any video for Tetrachrome? YT gives me nothing.
>>123910269
Well I got some webms from testing the game. There's no download for it since the dev is still working on the game.
>>123910269
It's "tetrachroma", not "tetrachrome", though that doesn't help much.
It's very, VERY similar to DMC but starring an anime cyborg girl and you can change among 4 colors (I believe as part of a sort of rock-paper-scissors type damage mechanic).
>>123910552
post more webms
>>123911113
all i have atm.
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/platinum-games-developing-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-game
>>123911528
Uh, isn't Platinum working on like 3 projects already?
>>>/co/77830091
Platinum is doing a TMNT game now.
>that tony hawk 5 vid
fucking kill me now, might as well throw more gas on that fire i guess
>>123911663
yes, rip quality
>>123911528
>>123911663
>>123911665
>TMNT
soft
>done by platinum
hard
>4 player co-op cuhrayzee
maximum hard
>but it's a clone of MGR/Bayonetta
fuck this, I don't carejoking
>>123911663
probably gonna be like transformers.
>>123912132
honestly I don't care.
If it's a clone of bayo/mgr then that means they legit do not want to attempt new things with their smaller projects.
>>123911528
>no reason to include TPS mechanics
call me when they make something better than T:D.
Bayonetta is my favorite cuhrayzee game.
Why platinum? until rising you guys would still try to make some cool stuff, bring some new ideas.
You don't have to clone bayonetta, you can create your own stuff.
>>123912324
>You don't have to clone bayonetta
I guess they found an easy formula to copy pasta coughMetal Nier Risingcough
>>123912479
That is the thing.
I don't feel that a lot of bayonetta mechanics, work outside of bayonetta.
Like, dodge offset, it doesn't even work well in bayonetta 2, i know that MGR has it, but i've never seen much use for it, while in bayonetta 1, you are basically doing dodge offset all the time.
Look at wonderful 101, sure it has similar stuff to bayonetta, but it was properly transported to w101, but in general, the game is a complete different beast, on how weapons, meter works...
I just think that if platinum keeps doing that, bayonetta will become less and less special.
You guys should shut the fuck up.
It's good that PG is basking on such light.
This will eventually let them fund their own games and shekkels for Bayonetta.
It's a great strategy, actually.
They got a bunch of talented devs with critically acclaimed games, made a bunch of games to spread the word around the world (IMO Bayo and Vanquish were basically advertisements even if not intended as such), with that they built a fanbase that constantly praises them for quality standards, probably hired an english speaking person with connections in the industry and done.
Korra, Transformers, Star Fox, Scalebound and Nier.
I don't know if Scalebound is Microsoft's or PG's IP, but it's fair to say that Microsoft dropped some cash on PG's lap to produce an exclusive for them. I hope it's PG's IP, though.
>>123913656
But anon, I want the good games now, not in 3 years
>>123913656
>anybody caring about slowbound
>>123914027
>snowbound
>a cuhrayzee snowboarding game
>>123897971
>enslaved
oh god that fucking game. Unbearable frame rate, dog-shit PC port, garbage combat, non-existent-fodder-level platforming, story with an ending that is 2deep4you-bait shit, fuck that game. Why the fuck did anybody enjoy that piece of shit
>>123914145
you mean SSX?
>>123913656
It's not good that Platinum is sucking cock just to stay afloat. They can't maintain themselves if they keep doing that. They either need one of these games to be a hit or they'll keep making low quality shit.
>>123914332
tuhrickay
>>123897971
I legit WANTED to like Enslaved.
It sucked.
>>123912246
>If it's a clone of bayo/mgr then that means they legit do not want to attempt new things with their smaller projects.
I think the smaller licensed games are to test stuff for their big games. Transformers was testing levels and gear, this I bet is to test co op on a bigger scale then Bayonetta's 2 extra mode.
Depending on when TMNT then them testing co op in that and level/gears in TF could be them trying to get it all right for Scalebound. Don't care that you guys don't like the game it'll be fun.
>>123914202
what's this, a jpeg for ants?
>>123914487
To rock a rhyme, that's right—on time—it's trickaaay
>>123887946
The really sad part is that I feel like alot if games wouldn't get accepted even if they did have the mechanics that we're conducive for cuhrayzee but they don't have the animations. Games like dmc, bayo, ninja gaiden all have really good animation in addition to mechanics. Good, engaging mechanics is part of what entices people to play these games if they have no clue what's actually happening.
![Ninja_Gaiden_3_RE_box_artwork[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9IfNaz2.jpg "Ninja_Gaiden_3_RE_box_artwork[1].jpg")
I've been playing this game a lot lately and it's actually surprisingly good after I got used to the flow. The mission mode is a lot of fun to the point where it feels like story is the extra mode and this the main meat. I also like playing as all the girls unlike Sigma 2 where I hated them. Kasumi is kinda OP even.
I played the original NG3 when it came out and I don't think I've ever been as angry after finishing a video game so I waited forever until finally picking this one up for cheap ready to be tortured again but then was actually entertained.
It still can't touch Black/2 in terms of polish but just throwing it out there for anyone else who might have passed on this game. It's definitely worth playing in a genre that has too few worthwhile games.
Oh platinum, you really are XXI century capcom. Doing the nice, smart gameplay games, and the "everyone likes, but really aren't that special" licensed games.
Get that money, my niggas. But don't forget where you came from. And by that I mean Capcom. Who fucked you. Don't become them.
Also, regarding the indie cuhrayzee devs: Chroma has best animations, but no hitstop makes everything hit like butter through water.
Mayhem has the system that interests me the most so far, but the attack animations need some work done.
WSW has... it's fast. I guess. (It seems good, I just personally dont like it's visuals, animations, speed. Just doesn't click with me.)
Keep it up, you cuhrayzee motherfuckers.
>>123917795
>Kasumi is kinda OP even
i noticed that too, i always get higher scores with her despite feeling like im doing worse
>>123919149
>hitstop
>butter through water
zzz
>>123920628
>Being this casual
Heh.
>>123920797
I'm sure you're an expert on being casual.
>>123917795
>goddamn alchemists
>waiting for the T-Rex to fall over
>waiting for s.o.b to pop up for the homunculus
>waiting for s.o.b for doppelganger fight
As much as I hate IS ninjas in NG2, this level of bullshit is unacceptable
>>123920884
I'm sure you've never actually looked at the games you're playing frame by frame.
19 DAYS
FUCKING SUBMIT ALREADY YOU FUCKS OR I'LL GOUGE OUT YOUR EYES AND REPLACE THEM WITH SPATULAS
>>123921064
If you need to turn your frames per second into seconds per frame then it's time to get good, champ.
>>123921313
What you just said doesn't even make sense.
Anyway, Bayo has hitstop, DMC4 has hitstop, I'd wager that DMC3 and NG also do, but I don't feel like checking right now.
It's fine if you're just misinformed on what hitstop is. Otherwise, you're just disagreeing with me for the sake of doing it.
>>123917795
>the waifus were actually fun to play as
expand on this, sir
>>123920990
The bosses I think are one of the weak aspects of the game even in RE. Too many range from shit to meh. Also I feel like they have a shit ton of HP compared to previous NG titles.
Alchemists aren't so bad. Just use a lot of strong attacks, charge attacks and lvl1 UTs (you can land them surprisingly easy if you charge after a single strong hit.
>>123921624
>What you just said doesn't even make sense.
Okay, so I'm harassing a retard. Now I feel bad.
>>123921825
I'm not the one who said that hitstop (1-3 frames of pause) is a full second, but.. ok? Guess I'm retarded then.
>>123921825
>>123922082
Both of you are retards, okay?
You can stop fighting to see who's better at it now.
just got Freesia, and everytime i try to update i get this, I should be fine without this right?
>>123921690
every character is basically the same, they aren't all slow or weak as fuck, rachel removed (except for maybe ayane, she might be a tad bit weaker than everyone else)
>>123922487
dont update
Why did they remove the blood from NGS2? That's some utter bullshit when the PS3 has GoW3.
>>123921690
They just are, feels like they have fast and powerful combos and it's easy to combo into OTs which is only easy with some of Ryu's weapons and less so with others. I guess Momiji isn't particularly amazing but the other two are great.
Kasumi has a technique that throws an enemy into the air and do a followup attack but if the enemy's already delimbed you can perform a finisher (steel on bone) that can be extended to nearby enemies. Other characters must rely on enemy grabs that can be countered with steel on bone.
Ayane is just really fast and really easy to quickly destroy most dudes with. Lots of spinning and slashing, feels like controlling a hurricane of blades.
>>123923189
I think it was to get CERO D. The blood isn't removed and you can see it being splattered about a bit when you cut off limbs but it's greatly reduced and also overshadowed by the purple mist effect. Also body parts just disappear instead of flying off.
It's pretty lame but not really a deal breaker. The balance changes are what makes it less fun than NG2 to me. Instead of having lots of enemies that can kill you fast if you mess up but are in turn fast to kill as well if you know what you are doing a lot of enemies now have too much HP. Ryu also takes less damage except on master ninja.
>>123921693
near the end with lvl3 weapons, no. but at the beginning I have to milk ut's for all they're worth. Getting deflected for using weak attack is one thing but taking a shit ton of damage from them (especially their drop kicks) is another.
>>123924000
Yeah they can be pretty shit to fight with lvl 1.
>>123924000
I think they kinda overdid how useless weak hits are and how useful strong hits are so it's painful when you don't have access to lvl 3 or at the very least 2 where you can do combos with multiple strongs.
I mean pretty much any enemy in the game can dodge/block/punish your weak hits with no effort making combos like WW>WWWW or the like completely pointless to even have as you want to get strong hits in asap and only use weak hits to set them up if you need to be fast.
>>123923609
>remove blood from newer version of the game to get past ratings to sell in japan
>original game with all the blood and gore was rated and sold in japan
>>123924681
Yeah but CERO D can be put on display in stores normally, original was CERO Z which can't be on store shelves. It can be sold to people who ask for it and are 18+ but it will hurt the sales which is why they wanted D.
>>123916529
DmC having shit animation is one of the big reasons it's so bad
his sword feels like a big stick and the scythe attacks like he's trying to paper cut the enemy to death
>>123924932
>get Sigma 2 to cero D
>make NG3
>get cero Z
>>123923189
because the ps3 couldn't handle as much shit as 360 could (blood textures, on-screen enemies, limbs on the ground)
>>123925734
Well basically:
>Let's make this game a bit less violent so we can sell it easier here in Japan
>Oops that didn't work so well because now westerners are upset, let's make it bloody again
If they care about western sales they should have seen it coming really. What's even more fun is that RE toned it down just a bit from 3 again presumably because it was on a Nintendo platform and they didn't bother to change it yet again when porting to PS3/360.
It's all over the damn place.
>>123925426
Just started playing NG but I have to say Ryu's moves are pretty fucking brutal.
Dante is always playing with his food.
Gene would fuck you up but he rather laugh at you.
Vergil can one-shot everything but he needs to prove his superiority.
Bayo is such a voyeur that it gets in her way.
Raiden is still his old self.
But Ryu? Ryu just wants to kill you, messy but quickly, no fun allowed. True ninja.
He would've killed Arkham, Devil Hand, Jeanne, Vergil, Sam, anything that stood on his path.
>>123926354
Yeah, I don't think that's the case. Weak bait. Pic related.
>>123927129
>bait
yeah okay
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ninjagaiden2-faceoff-article
DECEMBER 5 IS COMING SOON
PREPARE TO CRY AT SHATTERED HOPES
>>123927129
ryu fights as if he hates everything, almost like raiden if he wasnt bat-shit insane
I never played NG. What's Ryu's power level like?Is he just extraordinary ordinary man? Or does he have some demon/saint/sacred stuff in him?
>>123928913
Like Charlie Sheen, he has tiger blood.
>>123928913
hes is ordinary strong man until NG3 gave him the devil bringer. like charlie sheen however, he has dragon blood runnin through his veins
>>123920990
>waiting for an opportunity rather than creating one
I see now why you guys hate it so much
>>123927129
>He would've killed Arkham, Devil Hand, Jeanne, Vergil, Sam, anything that stood on his path.
Would he have power to do that tho?
Just kidding.
Now, cgg, in your opinion, what is the game that has the best taunt system? Animation, sounds, actual effects on gameplay.
>>123929041
>>123929089
So Ryu is HIV Positive? Fuck dude. No wonder he's angry all the time.HWA!
>>123928913
So far, I'd say he's slightly weaker than DMC3 end-game Dante.
He'd be able handle Arkham-Sparda, IMO.
Dunno about M20 Vergil. Dimension Slash is pretty cray-cray for NG.
>>123927748
Okay, that could've been the case.
>>123928913
NGB touches on this. Ryu believes his strength was earned through his training. It is later revealed in the game thatRyu has fiend blood OR dragon blood mixed with fiend blood OR pure dragon blood which is implied to just be fiend blood type B. Which is also stupid since it's implied at least 1 in a few thousand also have fiend blood meaning a trained human with that blood would be strong enougj to fight him
>>123929247
cross between DMC4(SE) and MGR Sam
DMC4SE's taunts are well animated and effect enemies and certain characters can even dodge attacks or deal damage while taunting.
MGR Sam's taunts act like a risk reward where you can make enemies deal more damage but the same applies to you.wish God Hand did something like this as well. Enraged enemies get insta-counter hit or something
>>123928913
NGB hints at Ryu having actual Dragon blood within him, hence why he was able to resist the fiend curse from Marbus and take down the Emperor. Beyond being capable of superhuman feats, he can also survive all varied sorts of wounds that would otherwise be fatal to any regular human, this is due to his spiritual health. This is why he was able to come back to life after being sliced apart with the Dark Dragon Blade by Doku (part of his spiritual life is linked to the Falcon, his spirit animal). He can also manipulate his Ki to change the laws of nature at will
Does anyone here play Razor's Edge on 360 still? I'd love to have a co-op partner to mess around with.
>>123931659
>no rule34 of momiji being raped by obaba
such a shame
>>123932310Kunoichi 2: Fall of the Shrinemaiden by Studio Flow
>>123932716
saw it. worst than the first one.
>>123932716
>no "full length" Dante X Lady(or whoever your waifu is) porn yet
where's myDevil May Cummovie?
>>123934597
none of the DMC girlsexcept for kyriewere made attractive enough sorry
>>123934883
>none of the DMC girls except for kyrie were made attractive enough sorry
>>123935028
2001 called, they want their polygons back
>>123935140
>>123917795
It is a piece of shit compared to any other semi-competent NG game except NG3 (and Yaiba, although it's an spinoff game there is always some retard that might namedrop it)
So I beat Ninja Gaiden Black on the Master Ninja mode a while ago, but I had to save up lots of items for certain parts. Literally had the maximum of everything including talismans of rebirth for Awakened Alma, and I feel a bit cheap for it.
Now it's been a while since I've played it and I think I'm going to attempt some no-item runs, starting with hard mode. Has anyone done this or some other challenge on Master Ninja?
I'm not bringing this game with the "is shit cuhrayzee XD?" argument in mind, just askin' if some of you turbonerds play this series since it looks like something it might interest people from this general. If so, we could try some co-op shit on PS3? I can't find an X360 copy for shit.
>>123936040
I did a no item run on Very Hard a while ago. It's not THAT hard save for a few parts, but you really need to know what you're doing and exploit a few things here and there.
For starters, guillotine throw is your friend. At the start of course you won't have it, so you need to do with stunning enemies via Wind Path and using Flying Bird Flip a lot. You can't go all guns blazing, but you can't just sit and hope that you'll be able to block all damage so you need to be very tactical. Again, for the first chapters stick to the Nunchaku and abuse Wind Path to keep enemies at bay.
The most complex thing about the first chapter is by far Murai, since you can't really cheese him in any way. Chapter 2 is a lot more forgiving, but still don't get confident. I'd recommend you look up a no-hurt video of the segment where you have to fight the mounted Samurai.
Chapter 3 is more of the same but by now you'll want to have upgraded the dragon sword to level 2.
>>123937371
I don't remember ngb that much but can't you stab them while they are down?
>>123938387
yes, you can strike any enemy when they're grounded except for bosses
>>123937371
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind. Guillotine throw is actually something I hardly ever use, but I'll probably have to change that.
>>123936684
to this day I haven't played an EDF even though it looks like the right mix of stupid bullshit and good ole fashioned fun gameplay that I normally enjoy
>>123936684
tempting, but no thanks. I'mma stick to my Serious Sam and Painkillers.Is the one on Steam any good?
>>123929604
>Ryu is HIV Positive?
considering all of that blood in NG2, wouldn't be a surprise if he caught it from one of the enemies who had AIDS n shit.
