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WHEN? edition

>What's new?
New map (it sucks). Store sale for good goyim. Waiting eagerly for doe cunt.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19960704/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-november-17-2015-11-17-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

Previously on /hotsg/: >>123592498
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>1st for the light and snowman
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first for HOOT HOOT
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fourth for Nova players
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5th for nobody has been Li Li posting ;_;
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>>123728751
maybe next year
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>>123728906
Indeed
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7th for Sylvanas best waifu
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>>123727750
>>123728012
>Muradin
>Tyreal
>Tyrande
>Nazeebo
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I see a lot of people complaining that they don't have partners for Cho'Gall. Why not just convince your boyfriend or girlfriend to play with you for a bit if they are into videogames?
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Tyrande is the most fun character in the game, also the cutest
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>>123729416
Jaina's master skin with brunette hair gives me the biggest boner so her master skin is the best.

My dick overrides my brain when it comes to quality of things.
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>>123729806
I get my wife's son to play with me
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>>123729806

Here's your reply.
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>>123729806
Oh, Anon, you know girlfriends dont play video games dont be silly
That has to be why
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how does this make you feel /hotsg/ ?
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>>123729416
Nothing really competes with Jaina's master skin, just losing the hood gives her such a great look.
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Update of this when?
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>>123730104
>there's people in this world who want to fuck Brightwing and Lili
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>>123730104
>Johanna not in the top right corner
what did he mean by this?
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Fucking Blizzard. Adding shit characters like Lunara while literal legends like Lothar and Orgrim sit on the bench. I'm not spending a cent until they add a literal legend and not meme shit.
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>>123730104
How is Tyrande lower than Nova in terms of purity?
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>>123730104
>impyling a Li Li isn't pure

>The Stoneraker brothers were aided by Li Li Stormstout when they attacked by the Virmen and after seeing she expected a reward, each of the brothers offered her a kiss. An unimpressed Li Li was implied to have hit them for this and then continued on her journey to Zouchin Village.

>While going about their business the pair were met by Chen Stormstout and Yalia Sagewhisper and soon after became employees of the Stormstout Brewery.
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>>123730449
>the first of the dryads
>daughter of a Cenarius
>not a *LITERAL* legend
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>>123730639
How the fuck is some character they just pulled out their ass for this game a literal legend? Are you fucking stupid? Go back to hearthmeme.
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>>123730758
>I don't know what the words literal or legend mean
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>>123730039
I think it was pretty fun
unless he's serious, if so he's totally braindead
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When is Lunara coming out so this game can be playable?
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Which mounts matches this skin?
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>>123730927
Why is he so fat?
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>>123730830
I know perfectly what a literal legend is you fuck.I created the term. Go back to fucking hearthmeme. You are a cancer ruining this game.
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>>123729147
You told him.
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>>123730902
Soon
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stukov when?
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>>123731006
from Merriam-Webster
>a : a story coming down from the past; especially : one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable
>b : a body of such stories <a place in the legend of the frontier>
>c : a popular myth of recent origin
>d : a person or thing that inspires legends
>e : the subject of a legend <its violence was legend even in its own time — William Broyles Jr.>
tell me how Lunara isn't a and c
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>>123731005
Because he's supposed to be a big guy
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>>123730639
>>123730902
>>123731158
I still dont like her neck, but she can be pretty cute

>>123730758
All of this is make believe, Anon

>>123730927
wonder billy
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>>123729416
>Thrall, Kharazim, Chen, Butcher, Lost Vikings, Valla.

Basically any skin that just doesn't add a hat. Which is most of them.
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>>123731224
If you want just like regular cute, you can get her sentinel skin. I just love her look in her base and master skin a lot.
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>>123731202
>looking up dictionary shit that doesn't even apply.

You clearly don't understand the true concept of a literal legend. Please leave and never come back.

>>123731224
Ohhhh wow I thought it was all real you sure showed me lunarafag. Take your meme shit and get the fuck out. Meme characters are going to be stopped. We will have a literal legend one way or the other.
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>the amount of disappointment when Pure Country E.T.C. doesn't play Sweet Home Alabama during his Mosh Pit

>tfw Sweet Home Alabama was also used in Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty with full rights acquired by Blizzard previously

>tfw Sweet Home Alabama will never make a return for Pure Country E.T.C.

>tfw Pure Country ain't country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jK8C8Ls164
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>>123730104
Sylvanas isn't pure, she was fucking the human ranger Nathanos before she turned undead.
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>>123731435
>Ohhhh wow I thought it was all real
we know you did, because you have autism
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>>123731556
Except she wasn't. Sylvanas was just his teacher.
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>>123731224

What about the green color? which mount?
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>>123730927
the Hearthstone card
he does a cool balance thingo on it too
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Hey, does Sonya just rape the shit out of Jaina?
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>>123731494
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jK8C8Ls164
Wait, why is the marine cracking his knuckles?

His hands aren't in the hands on the suit, so hes not cracking his knuckles.
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>>123730927
Lunar Tiger... obviously?
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johanna
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>>123731494
That song fucking sucks. Dumb normies listen to that trash.
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>>123731924

Sonya rapes the shit out of everything except Muradin and Butcher
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>>123731924
Sonya rapes the shit out of anyone if you're good
>>123732046
this desu
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>>123732065
She rapes them when I'm being their medic.
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>>123732013
that's Tychus, he can do whatever he damn pleases with his power suit

>>123732054
LAWD AHM CUMMING HOME TA YOOO
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>>123731762
>The relationship between Nathanos and Sylvanas has been noted by a number of characters, notably those who were part of their ranger corps. Lor'themar Theron and Renthar Hawkspear, who were part of Sylvanas and Nathanos' company, both make reference to a close relationship between the two. Halduron Brightwing also mentions that Sylvanas and Nathanos had a certain connection, and that she was always "championing" him.

It's actually more implied than even Jaina or Arthas. Tyrande and Malfurion you don't even know but it's just assumed.
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>>123730902
>Out of everyone introduced at Blizzcon the best one released is probably one that doesn't really exist.

Feels badman, but her kit does sound fun.
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>>123732140
this
t. his Sonya
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>>123731793
there is actually a green billy in the games files, but for now either white billy works

if you like them, there is a greenish variant for dire and cyber wolf, and armored battle beast

theres also the green treasure goblin
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>>123732209
The person who made the chart waifued sylvanas, logic wont win out over autism
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Does anyone here want to play some QM games?
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Sylvanas tried to give Turalyon a bj in one of the books too.
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>>123732514
I'd give Turalyon a bj too if he wanted one
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>>123732306

Eh I don't like those mounts. But the brownish Dire Wolf has green armor on him.
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>>123729931
Post Jaina.
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Still waiting for literal WoW horde legends
Gamon and Mankrik's wife
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>>123732243
She is actually mentioned in the new wow expansion, she might make an appearance

http://legion.wowhead.com/item=123880/lord-halsharas-tomb
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>>123732757
>tfw [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] never
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>>123732860
Why would a Dyrad give a shit about treasure?
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>>123732757
>meme characters
>literal legends

Fucking idiots of this general. You'll never learn true respect and reverence for literal legends.
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>>123732860
So they are going to promote the worst characters. Genn Gaymane and Lunara.

We could have had Xavius and Maiev.
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>>123732860
>>123732948
Its likely not our Luna, probably something like

http://wow-freedom.wikia.com/wiki/Lunara_Bluetear
http://legion.wowhead.com/npc=16755/lunaraa

or some other Lunara
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>>123732948
The relics probably have something to do with the emerald dream. Since Ysera, Cenarius and the emerald dream (malfurion captured) are now all corrupted, other characters are emerging
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>>123732757
>Cow King never
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>>123733105
>http://wow-freedom.wikia.com/wiki/Lunara_Bluetear
This is a fanfiction site where people post their rp characters, that person is even using a picture of Tyrande
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>>123733423
Ah sorry
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>>123732614
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>>123734046
>amputee

gr8 taste
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>>123734526
Are you retarded? it's covered by bed sheets...
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>>123734771
my dick is covered by bed sheets
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>>123734926
my deck is my bed sheets
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>>123735018
too bad there's only 9 slots though :(
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>>123735112
players just wouldn't understand REDS' dick
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>>123734046
>BIG
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>Don't play HL or TL on weekends
>If you play QM you have to stack in order to win
Any other must-knows for actually winning a match in this fucking game?
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>play hl game
>enemy has zagara
>all she does is teleport around everywhere and destroy everything with nydus worms
>can't even gank her cause she leaves to the opposite side of the map before we get there
>we try to destroy a keep and she destroys our core

This is ridiculous. How is nydus worm even balanced? And at level 20 it spawns shit. We couldn't catch her for shit not to mention the other 4 enemies. Nydus worm needs a nerf.
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Why is balls the easiest dota clone yet? what made blizzard do this
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>>123735406
if you can play before 3pm Eastern or 3pm Pacific

it's when most kids end school and get home to start queueing up, play only when the kids are away
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>>123735293
>MEATY
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>>123735841
>MIGHTY
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>>123735841
>CLAWS
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>>123736069
fucking moron had to RUIN IT REEEEEEEEE
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>>123737865
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
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>>123729416
Post dem master skins bois.

>tfw level 9.5 with Muradin
>tfw only levelling heroes with aesthetic master skins
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>>123738085
Shut your mouth you mediocre Morales player.
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YOU'RE KILLING ME /hotsg/!

you really are.
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>>123738626
How? CANT AFFORD THAT NEW SKIN!?
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>>123738085
Once there was a shitposting tripfag.

He shitposted so much, that the thread died.

The end.
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>>123738927
>>123738362
Is this any better anon? I made this post, with my tears.
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>>123735408
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>>123738320
I'm this close to spending $5 on Morales just for the Samus alt on her master skin
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>>123731924
I think I have fanart of that somewhere
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>>123739917
She is a pain in the ass to play and is very easily caught out unless you use medivac extensively.

I feel that she takes a certain kind of finesse to play.
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post em
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Reminder that Memeslug is a fun hero to play against.
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>>123740889
>couldn't get 8 straight wins against actual people.
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>tfw enemy raynor is actually good
I fucking hate that q
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>>123742389
>range is just long enough so you think you're good but it still hits you anyways
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why are faggots allowed to pick gaz and still be alive?
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>>123742479
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>>123742912
probably because there are picks even worse than him
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>beating erho under shitty circumstances
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How do I play Azmodunk? I always end up topping siege damage and I'm pretty high on hero damage, but I don't feel like I'm doing that much or contributing at all.

Any suggestions for builds?
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>try to be a team player and tank properly
>lose because team is shit
>go Sonya and choose to do camps on my call and rotations when i need them
>win

well fuck everything, i'll just be more of a selfish player, even if it means i have to abuse this OP warrior princess
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>get queu'd against a team of Azmodan, Murky, Abathur, Nazeebo and Gazlowe on Teamfights of Doom
>lose

Is there a way to tell if people are using Storm Buddy hacks?
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>Go on a massive win streak
>Suddenly matched with the absolute worst players around
>Massive lose streak

Their forced 50 system isn't very subtle.

And don't tell me that shit is just me, I know of at least 4-5 other people this happens to.
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>>123743570
>Zeratul

Whoa, WTF happened?
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>>123738320
Raiders Roll...
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>>123748824
>TIME TO MAN UP
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>>123748625
his bonus damage on melee was changed to a 3 hit combo (hit someone three times and the third hit does extra damage)

now his burst is shit
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>>123748625
Blizz finally nerf him.
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I always see senpaitachi say that Illidan is only good with a specific team. What is an example of some characters that he works well with? He's my favorite character and I'm 1-2 games from 30 but I don't want to pick him if he won't fit with my team.
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desu senpai heroes of the storm is fun
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>>123749110
> ETC Abathur Tyrande Diablo Illidan

anyone who is able to peel and isolate a target, then let Illidan burst 'em down while zoning out their teammates
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>>123748824
>This is Jimmy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lrYuxqPrU4&user=Danserkk
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WE NEED MORE ZERGS
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>>123731006
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Li Li is down to 54%, but atleast she didnt get zeratool'd
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Chen still useless.
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When?!?!

I need that deer vagina.
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>>123751071
Anon, that dryad has a horse base, totally different vagina from deer
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>>123751149
That's even better.
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What is your out-of-meta talent choice that is fun and works out surprisingly well? I like the 5 mine talent on sgt hammer and just laying a minefield everywhere
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>>123751795
_RoboGoblin_
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>>123751795

You say that as if the "meta" exists outside of high mmr HL/TL.
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>tfw you'll never make a monster out of kerrigan
>tfw you'll never rule this sector or see it burn to ashes around you
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Where's Grom?
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>>123751795
Sledgehammer.

>Playing Muradin as a lane pusher
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>>123751795
Assault Egg. It makes a lovely watchtower, and lovelier bait. You'll get flamed by your teammates for it, though.
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>>123751795
Shadow Assault
Because fuck it might as well at this point
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Let's talk about Artanis.
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>>123752960
B I G
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>>123752960
>>123752960
Asstanis
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>>123752960
Pretty fun to play, gotta live on the edge in order to survive and i like that, sucks that he has azmodan syndrome but still pretty balanced
>tfw the only warrior in qm
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>>123753491
>having to go balls in EVERY FIGHT
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>>123752634
eventually
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hows the ranking system compared to LoL like how many ranked points would be considered a division of leagues ranked
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>>123753578
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>>123752634
>wanting Grom before Garrosh
>unironically
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>>123753673

fuck off WoWfag
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>>123753673
>wanting the loser kid over the greatest Orc in the history of WC
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>>123753673
>didindu nuffin orc that was an asshole till the end
>didindu nuffin father that fucked up royally twice and make it up for it giving his life

seriously tho garrosh
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>>123753673

Garrosh will be a skin at best
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>>123753581
rank 1 has mid-upper diamond and master
its all mixed up
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>>123752960

love him

very fun to play and always underestimated

good ability usage w/ shield+ability cooldown talents and people just don't know what the fuck is happening
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>>123753581

Rank 1 is silver and up
anything below rank 1 is bronze
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>tfw not protoss
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Paladin Arthas when?

Kel'thuzad when?
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>>123754828

crown prince already exists
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>>123754879
Not a skin, a separate character m8
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>>123730104
>not wanting to fuck zag
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We need more night elves, guys!
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speak pup
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Nova nerf when ?
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>>123755112
need more races
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chen is SEXY
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>>123755406
xD
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>>123754962
Not going to happen then.
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>>123755462
and dragons
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>>123755669
is this a trick to get more elves
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>>123755669
Ysera when?
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>>123755541
>do you wanna take this mercenary camp
>because IIIIII doooo
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>>123755797
>>123755750
>>123755669
When?
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>>123755112
that's not a night elf
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>>123755516
>can literally one shot any squishy hero from the very start
>bazillon escape
>no counter
>most picked


she's literally anti game
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>>123755797
hopefully soon
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>>123755750
>>123755797
>>123755828
Fucking when?!?
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>>123755880
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>>123755828
Yeah, give us not-furry hero for pedos!
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>>123755814
Brightwing has the best quotes in the game.
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>>123756002
Wanting to fuck a midget isnt pedo
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>>123755880
>Implying it's hard to spot stealth
>Implying she doesn't rely on the enemy being out of position
>Literally no escape except le sneaky ai clone

The only constant is you
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>>123755928
Is that azshara?
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>>123756203
>juke and stealth
>not an escape
>hurr durr play a tank if you don't want to get killed
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>>123755513
Its probably the tail ring
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>>123756239
Who is this semen demon?
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>>123756239
Yeah it's her.
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>quickmatch
>enemy have malfurion and tassadar
>literally cant kill anyone
nice matchmaking
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why is ETC so overpowered bros
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>>123756493
>Tassadar
>Not trash
>>123756750
>ETC
>Not trash
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>>123756801
>ETC
>trash
>literally can't get a single game without him
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>>123730104
>Ms. Snu Snu is not in top right corner.
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>>123756750
he has the games longest stun
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>buy lunar chen skin
>all of a sudden stop getting matched with retards
what is this jewery
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>>123732065
She can't rape Rexxar, Falstad, Gazlowe, KT, Brightwing, Leoric, Tyrande and Cho'Gall (obviously).
But she absolutely destroys Murky.
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>>123732757
You mean Thrall and Sylvanas?
Horde just need one troll hero and maybe Grom.
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>>123757061
rexxar needs a sprint at higher levels, your only escape route is W and if you whiff it, may as well just stand still vs sonya, and i belive she has cc reduction
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>>123757061
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>>123756876
and heals more than tyrande
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>>123757061
>sonya can't rape leoric
laughingsluts.jpg
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>>123757157
She loses lane against him. Hard.

>>123757197
And?

>>123757362
Can kill, but it is not rape.
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What the fuck happened in Hotdogs?
What are those crazy ass % changes?
Diablo with a 55% winrate!?
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>>123757584
Oh yeah, i agree she gets fucked in lane, thought you meant something like a 1v1 situation /chase
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>>123757750
because there is like 20 people uploading their replays at all
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>>123758073
Diablo has been good since the balance patch when medic was added
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>>123757197
>there are people at "Masters" who pick Cho'Gall, Chen and Gazlowe
hotdogs a shit
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>>123759731
hot dogs' masters starts at 3403 and the top player is 4532
chogall was picked in 1054 of these matches out of ~4590
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>>123751795
I used to pick Nether Winds as Kael'thas, but one time I accidentally misclicked Mana Tap and turns out that's a lot better
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>>123753750
>Grom being the greatest orc in WC by any metric
>better than Garrosh
>better than Thrall
>better than Marysuexigar
>better than Orgrim
>better than Blackhand
>better than Gul'dan
>better than Durotan
>better than Drek'thar
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>>123761504
>Muradin
Perfect storm + sledgehammer

just fucking fun especially with rewind can actually 1v1 most ppl

>Tyrande
full owl build + battle momentum

just hit your owls and everything is off cd all game long, also allows you to use your ult twice in a team fight
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>>123761648
>Garrosh
Dindu nuffin who got his ass kicked by everybody and failed at everything
>Thrall
I'll give you this one. Green Jesus is greater.
>Marysuexigar
Literally who from a novel
>Orgrim
Cool guy but he is responsible for the Orc's greatest defeat. Also prepare for him to be ruined in the movie.
>Blackhand
Literal puppet and ded
>Gul'dan
Most powerful moron in the entire lore for sure.
>Durotan
Fathering Thrall is not really that great of an achievement senpai.
>Drek'thar
Blind and couldn't even take Alterac Valley.
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>>123728585
>start playing
>notice that can't buy items like other MOBA, it's just skill up
I don't know, but I find this very casual and boring. But apparently it has lots of map, the very early PvP seem kind of easy too
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>>123762008
>Dindu nuffin who got his ass kicked by everybody and failed at everything
sounds like Grom to me desu senpai
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>>123762574
As much as I liked getting a lot of farm and items in other mobas, I gotta admit they were kind of boring to get after so many matches I played, farming felt like a chore, I find this game more fun just because of teamfights going on since minute 1 and not just a single teamfight at minute 60 that decides the match
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>>123756854
Just counerpick with Johanna, ez
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Why are always the "lolsorandumb" or "DUDE WEED" nicknames the worst fucking faggots on this game?
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>>123763201
because they're playing Nova
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>mfw I reached my idle training limit for the day
I didn't even know that shit existed.
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>>123762947
After playing for a while, I guess the thing about this moba is the map quantity and how their objectives are different.

Also, why the fuck most Nova players just afk or whatever?
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>>123763469
Like afk in base? or afk in the bushes, if bushes then they're "ROAMING" for le epic ganks, typical Nova stuff
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>>123729048
Every thread needs more Li Li.
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>>123764185
yiff in hell furfag
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>>123731735
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>>123763270

How do you the trick to get massive amounts of xp in training mode?
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>>123764379
you put 9 bots and afk untill someone win
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>>123764327
Sure thing boss!
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>>123764165
Base and brushes

I noticed I am not having problems with ping, the matchmaking throw me with people from my country or something?
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>>123764648
Li Li posting is best posting
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>>123764723
you can check in options your preferred server, it's set on automatic by default so it throws you to the server with the lowest possible ping most of the time
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>>123762008
And what did Grom do? He did even less than all the characters you mentioned. He didn't even fight in the second war despite being a blood thirsty faggot. All he did was drink demon blood and then die. There is nothing great about Grom at all.
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>>123765696
He was so incompetent at his first job that Thrall sent him to chop wood, then he kills cenarius after getting the orcs to drink demons blood a second time, and then kills a demon the end.
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>>123765696
>single handedly killed Cenarius, a demi-god
>single handedly killed Mannaroth, one of the most powerful demons in the legion
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>>123764886
Agreed. Li Li a best.
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>>123765804
>get sent to chop wood
>accidentally restart a 10 000 year old war and kill a demigod
only Grom could fuck up on that magnitude
>>123765850
>single handedly
yeah, after drinking demon blood again
>a hobo on PCP can beat up a cop so that hobo is really strong
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>>123765850
Cenarius lived anyways and killing Mannoroth is no big feat. Besides he could only do that with super steroids so it doesn't really count at all. He was a worthless fuck up. The worst of the Orcs.
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>>123765850
>single handedly killed Mannaroth, one of the most powerful demons in the legion
Mannoroth isn't known for being powerful, he is known for being cunning.
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>>123766142
>called "the Destructor"
>not known for being powerful
he's a fucking pit lord senpai, they're all powerful
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So what exactly happened with this patch that made Diablo so much better?

He just feels a lot stronger in general.

Once you get double charge Overpower you can just do fucking work.
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>>123766274
He's the only pit lord to die from being hit once with a regular weapon from a regular humanoid. He just leads the destruction of planets, he's not very strong. He is actually one of the weaker pit lords, he just uses his brain to make up for it.
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>>123766361
it was a few patches ago that he got good
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19893628/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-september-24-2015-9-24-2015#Diablo
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>>123766361
his kit was always superb, needed to be more beefy, the patch scaled his hp pretty gud so now you can go in, do the work and live to tell the tale instead of charge>overhead>die
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>>123766361
he have more hp and regen now
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>>123766361
Scaling, plus he combos really well with tyrande
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>>123766274
>so powerful that he dies in one shot
>twice

Like cmon, hes weak as fuck.
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>>123766585
Makes sense, he finally isn't a china doll. Do you think builds can get away without added hp and regen bonus talents now?

----
I think if Hay-maker could punch opponents over walls it would be a viable alternative to Avatar. Hay-Maker is just fun as shit, it's not bad, but Avatar is just wholly better.

I don't mind accidentally picking it sometimes.
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>>123766756
he basically explodes when you touch him
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>>123766756
>>123766416
Guys, you do realize everybody dies from one hit in cinematics?
Illidan was defeated in one hit by Arthas, Mannaroth died from one hit, Grom kills that pitlord in the WoD cinematic with one hit.
It would extremely stupid if people would chop at one another for hours during a cinematic.
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>>123766756
>so powerful that he's massively unstable and explodes violently as soon as he's touched
sounds pretty powerful to me ;^)
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>>123766995
It's never said anywhere else "they fought for hours", he just gets touched once and explodes.
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>>123766995
Illidan was defeated pretty easily by Arthas in Icecrown, because Arthas was close to the frozen throne, he was at basically full power. Unlike when they fought in felwood.
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>>123765976
>>123765979
>Besides he could only do that with super steroids so it doesn't really count at all
Why?
Gul'dan relies on his warlock magic to achieve great things which he got from Kil'jaiden in the first place.
Thrall relies on his shaman powers and Metzen all the time.

If we only count achievements through sheer unaltered strength then Durotan is the truly greatest Orc ever because his greatest feat was done by his dick alone.
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>>123767254
Gul'dan had to actually practice his art and hone his powers. Same thing with Thrall. Grom just drank blood.
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>>123767009
You know I never really liked that fight. Thrall and Grom didn't really do anything clever, it was basically:

Thrall: I'm gonna hit your real hard with my hammer in not particular place on your body!

Mannaroth:Heh, wings aren't for flappitys, they are for blockities, lemme show you muh dick

Thrall:Eugh his dick

Grom:I shall hit you real hard with my axe, directly in your armor!

Mannoroth, WHAT NO! MY BELLY PLATE! I AM KILL!
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