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Top waifu edition
>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
is grita a thaum
>>123716791
Elementalist above Necro? is Necro that bad? I thought the Flesh Tower thing was supposed to be a cute cannon
First for
Thaum is the worst class in the game
Reminder to keep believing in the Goddesses!
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-feedback-wizards-quirks-and-all-things-arde/121122/12
>Hi, may i ask can the summons like skeletons/corpse tower get boosted by quick cast ? Disappointed with ele 3 so I'm considering to go wiz 3 - linker 2 - necro.
Wow, that's like saying
"I'm disappointed with only a dick up my ass, so I'm trying with a cactus"
just
Thaumaturges are adorable and waifu material
I made a webm of the Panto Speed Boost, bretty good desu senpai
Reminder to report lewd sightings.
xth for
>all classes are a meme
>all builds are a meme
>all skills are a meme
>doing anything is a meme
>not doing anything is a meme
>meme meme meme
>>123717274
Is blue panto sonic?
-Swordman
Shinobi Rank 7
Fencer Rank 7
Dragoon Rank 8
Templar Rank 8
Murmillo Rank 8
-Archer
PiedPiper Rank 8
Appraiser Rank 8
Cannoneer Rank 7
Musketeer Rank 7
-Wizard
Mimic Rank 11
Daoshi Rank 11
Sage Rank 7
Warlock Rank 7
Featherfoot Rank 8
-Cleric
Chaplain Rank 8
Shepherd Rank 9
Plague Doctor Rank 7
Kabbalist Rank 7
Does this mean rank 8 and 9 won't have two options? Also posting anime gif to trigger the anti-avatar faggot >:^)
>>123716791
>>123717072
Elem is kinda whatever in my opinion. All it really brings to the table is a free room clear every once in a while. Both their mobbing and bossing are otherwise fairly whatever. I definitely wouldn't place them above Necro at the very least. Necro can tear through anything single target in a matter of seconds with how crazy Flash Cannon gets if you stack meme items. Basically every single one of your attacks having Decay tied to it is also crazy useful for way easier overkills and thus better exp. Necro is just pretty fucking good all around, maybe not Temple Shooter Sorc level but it's pretty up there as far as Wizard is concerned.
>>123717085
But it gives your entire party like +150 damage and x2 exp just from one circle. How could it be the worst when people are going sword c2 for a grand total of +21 more damage only applying to themself.
Meme = busted
>>123717225
Venom from the Wugushi Master exists, it's 200 Poison Pots per Venom used.
archers are not shitonce you hit 200.
Is Cryo C2 shit? I wanna make a more Support focused Wizard build but I absolutely hate being Pyro without Linker.
>>123717346
This game won the "meme of the year" award
>>123717231
>swell boobs
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/level-163-rank-275-players-opinion-of-this-game/119233
>>123717197
Really hope they don't balance the content around people with completely retarded builds like this. I mean there should be some leeway for people that are a little inefficienct and such but this is just totally beyond reasoning.
How do I get pink hair?
Kissposters must be sexually abused.
>>123717057
Grita is olev
>>123717475
>Support focused wizard
>doesn't have linker
>>123717475
cryo c2 is shit, c1 is fine for those mixed 4 classes builds.
>>123717394
idk where you're getting this info from but it looks pretty outdated and none of it was confirmed in the first place.
>>123717463
whats that guys build?
>>123717560
Okay, that's kinda lewd. Thaumaturges are definitely pure and classy
>>123717531
Better asking here. Please respond.
I want these useless monster gems to go and go back to demon prison.
Does anyone know how many ranks will be available during release?
>>123718189
Elma's are alright but
GAS THE ELETS !
They should give Quick Cast to Chrono
>>123717394
>>123718056
That list is the same as the job table present in Job.ipf from November 5th. However, we can't open any more recent IPF files to see if it's been changed but it's highly likely.
Someone is working on a way to extract the new IPF files though, so we might get some more info before kOBT.
Reminder that linker is the single best class for wizard.
Evrey wizard build will be required to have linker on release.
>>123718357
I love joining 190 dungeon runs only to have a pyro keep going nuts on the Elets, healing them to full whenever they dip below 20%. Over and over and over. It's like they just skipped demon prison entirely
>>123718186
archer 3 > wugushi 2 > SR
>>123717072
>>123717419
Necro isn't that bad, it's just that, for parties and grind in general, it doesn't bring too much dps or utility (necro does have, I know).
Elementalists have Frost Cloud that has the same cooldown as Flesh Cannon, but also has other spells in their kit to keep the dps always up, while necro is better for aggro pulling and tanking with it's summons.
That said, they are only 1 rank apart in my rank
Is Cataphract really terrible? I was planning on going Hoplite C2 > Catapharact C2
>>123717425
sword 2 is rank 2, thaum is rank 4
there's no comparisson m8
Also the +150 damage is kinda meh in the long run.
>>123718576
>that SP drain
>>123718482
> joining ... runs
well in partys they are ok. i can slack
but in solo190s they are a little annoying
>>123718479
Nah, that's Sorcerer. At least in the current form because of TS. Linker is super good but it's mostly because it synergizes with literally everything by its nature, and that's kind of the point. I hope they don't nerf Linker because of how interesting it can be.
Linkers do bring the most to a group though.
>>123718576
Do all lvl 190+ monsters have this much health?
I did it!
I became the new meme!
>>123718576
so archer 3 is not shit and ranger is the meme class?
>>123718809
Morph's only use (now that the previous exploit is dead) is in a rather disappointing buff to Templeshooter with the right cards. But to achieve said buff it means padding the Hell out of a different card (Cerberus is the best example)
You morph the main card (Cerberus) into Templeshooter and while you get templeshooter's skills and design, he gets Cerberus's stats
>>123718809
Joint Penalty > TS
>>123718974
>stabbing 0
>>123718576
>Maxed oblique shot
Lvl 1 is good enough
>>123718967
no but lepus was chosen cause everyone has trouble with them. they have 42k hp and just got shredded through with oblique
>>123719016
If you're going wugushi, which is rank 4, archer c3 isn't a meme.
>>123719161
It's exactly the same cost-effectiveness, you just kill shit slower.
>>123719161
If you have access to lvl 5 pots then spam lvl 15 away.
>>123719161
why would you leave it at lvl 1 with alch pots?
>>123718695
Stop.
>>123719039
See, that's interesting. I really hope they balance around stuff like that. Having a weak monster that has some unique aspect to it, then morphing with a stronger monster to make it viable.
Temple Shooter's double shot is a good example. If TS was super weak, or at least mediocre on his own, but had to be morphed to be as strong as it is now I feel like more people would be okay with it. I hope they nerf TS just so we can see more flexibility.
>>123719042
Depends on the condition. That said it's been a long time since I was forced to play without joint penalty so maybe I'm underestimating it.
>>123718357
What's wrong with elets? The only mobs on DP2 that are annoyuing are Harugals, at least to me
>>123719016
No, he probably would do more damage if he was Ranger C3
>>123719374
But why, I'm like 50% class exp away to rank 5
>>123717394
>Fencer Rank 7
But they are Rank 6. It's even in this beta. At least do some common sense research beforehand.
>>123718695
It's pretty underpowered at the moment. Don't bother unless you really want the costume.
>>123719443
>Depends on the condition.
Its double damage, man.
>>123719276
Wugushi is a big meme.
50% poison resist everywhere.
Stutter when using skills.
Shitty scaling.
>>123719492
wugushi definitely does more dmg to bosses, outside that maybe not
>>123719598
And how many of these are you talking out of your ass?
>>123719556
That looks absolutely terrible.
Lv5 thrust, 10 bash? 10 pommel beat... with shield attacks.
For what purpose?
>>123717425
To be fair, people going sword c2 have no fucking idea what they are doing, can't do simple math and most likely are retards. You shouldn't follow their example.
Now, I don't know anything about Thaumaturge, or if that +150 damage is simply final or it scales, but later on +150 is not really much. Is that 2x exp 100% uptime?
Otherwise doesn't sound too good.
>>123719276
>>123719492
then whats better? it just looks like archers are stuck with oblique the entire game and that doesnt seem fun at all
>>123719665
None because I deleted my wugushi because of this shit.
Also poison pot card mechanic not implemented.
>>123719548
I mean joint penalty is usually useless on bosses. Also if there aren't too big packs of monsters it's not all that great. I do think they should change how it works a bit though, I think the damage multiplication is a bit much. I think when they designed the class they more pictured everyone focusing a big monster that was linked to small ones, so they could take care of the small ones at the same time.Fine, it's overpowered. It's interesting and fun though so I don't want to see it nerfed. Synergy is the point of the whole class system
>>123719743
>stuck with oblique
You don't have to use oblique if you don't want to.
>>123719492
I'm sure Steady Aim is totally worth it
>>123719743
Dude, Oblique is a filler skill. You use your high cds and then fill the void with oblique.
Where do all these retarded shitter come from?
>>123719908
why would you not use a much better auto attack that can hit two targets
>>123719857
Still works on bosses.
Link with adds or traps or if you're cryo you can link ice wall.
>>123719493
Cata C1 only gives you a costume and mobility (and I guess using 2h spears). Their skills don't deal any damage.
Cata C2 gives you absolutely nothing.
Cata C3 gives you the ability to get to level 15 skills that deal bellow average damage, and Rush that has a 90 seconds cooldown and doesn't even deal any meaningful damage considering how many strong other classes get at rank 6.
Meme Armor set or Vubbe gloves for Hoplite leveling?
>>123720002
Oh man all these archer fags are still confused about how bad their class is
>>123720121
None, you don't need them as a Hoplite.
>>123720016
because it costs SP? I mean, dude on the webm must be chugging potions like crazy, if you have better skills to dispatch mobs then use those. Barage, for isntance, seems stronger and has overheat, despite having a low cooldown.
>>123720049
Linking traps isn't that useful. It doesn't multiply damage since only 1 damage can hit them, and they're usually so easy to avoid that easily destroying them with links isn't that great. Moving them with hangman is situational.
Cryo+Linker is a good thing though. It's interesting synergy that should be good, it should be rewarded. If we start nerfing everything that works well together, why even have this system?
Does Arde add damage on Cafrisun's?
Is there a point of going Priest if Pardoners will be abundant in the final release? They're lots of them now I can just get my buff from them and it lasts longer.
>>123720201
I already have meme gloves because I got a blood on the first kill. Just wondering if Carifsun's procs from Stabbing.
>>123720219
>because it costs SP?
>>>/reddit/
>>123720306
Cafrisun procs on multi hit skills
>>123720219
What? You don't know about lvl 5 alch pots? Play the game you fucking retard
>>123719443
I agree that Morph should be more of an asset than it currently is. Right now, it simply isn't necessary, and it isn't even something you'd miss with it gone. The stat change from Cerberus to Templeshooter is nice on paper but that's just because you see Cerberus's bloated STR and HP stats compared to Templeshooter's modest stats.
I just want Templeshooter's damage cut to reasonable levels. It is totally cool that he's got two hits to his auto and it's totally cool that it does more damage than a single hit of another summon. But it's too much as it is. He's got two Shadowgalers on his arms that he hits things with, and each crossbow should not do that much. A nice combined total, sure, but each crossbow is basically one summon.
Nerf that a bit, buff a few other cards so there's a bit of a tier list but not so drastic. Make the stats of the summons be something to choose from, along with the Riding skills.
A good trade off for slightly better auto attack damage than most cards (if Temple hits with both crossbows) would be that Templeshooter isn't as tanky as several other cards are (Cerberus and its 90k HP with 1 star as an example)
>>123719681
Due to your feedback, I have increased thrusts power
>>123720672
lel, perfect
>not going from 161-178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRm1WsvMws&feature=youtu.be
>>123720061
also cant you like, not use Hoplite skills while mounted?
Any healers want to run the 130 dungeon?on Laima ;_;
Would any of you kiss me?
>>123720061
How would you fix cataphracts?
I'd like to see the class function at least somewhat similar to what they were named after. That is, swiftly break in, wreck shit, and get out. Replace the gob shite that is Earth Wave with something else. Make Steed Charge cover a much larger distance, allow a small degree of turning control when charging, make it do pierce damage, and rename it to "Lance Charge"
>>123717197
>Disappointed with ele 3
How the fuck is that even possible? Rape Cloud can clear even the most crowded rooms in Demon Prison District 2 with a single cast except for the Harugals and that's only because they take half damage from it.
>>123720061
>>123719532
Now I'm at a loss on what to take on Rank5/6
>>123720061
>(and I guess using 2h spears)
You say that like its not a big deal
Hoplite 3 + Cata 1 is absolutely godlike for killing bosses. Stabbing + 3 hits from a trident is so utterly broken its not even funny. Its easily worth picking up a single Cata just for that trident alone.
after going the swordsman route for about 60 levels, what class can i try thats FUN
>>123720765
sweet.
i was going from 166 to 178
i liked Prison
Grass triggers OoB
THE SYNERGY
>>123721134
no class. they are all shit and memes >>123717346
>>123721138
I didn't. It was always packed when I was there.
>>123721094
Aren't bosses easy enough as it is at those levels?
>>123721291
pls stop mememing
>>123721384
meme me mate !
>>123720765
>193 lvl 8 cards
what? how
>>123721094
Come live though going Hop 3 and then something inbetween and then Dragoon will be better if you want two handed spears that bad
>>123720924
Wasn't that cavalry charge in Vienna the largest one is history?
I want to love Cataphracts too, but at their current state, it's jsut too hard. Rush needs to be at least as good as Cyclone to be worth the C3, using skills while moving need t actually work, and they need a bread-and-butter skill that's better than Earth Strike's current state
>>123721145
what
>>123721041
if you're Hoplite already you could go Hoplite C3 into Doppel or Corsair C1 + C2 for dual wielding with spears
>>123721319
>thinking short term
Bad anon, bad.
>>123721425
ahhhhhh
After much deliberation and playing with over 15 classes, not including Archers, I have finally made up my mind on these builds for the final release.
Just a friendly reminder that if you have white hair and chupa ears, you are 100% cute! Congratulations!If you're doing it as a boy though you deserve to be chained up in a rape dungeon by sorceresses and milked into a catatonic slump with absolutely no mercy.
>>123720827
Only Long Stride can't be used while mounted.
>>123721094
I would take Cyclone and Deeds of Valor over 2H Spears any day. And that is exactly what I did as a Hoplite 3.
2H Spears that split damage against bosses are overrated, you will melt bosses anyways and Cyclone gives you a massive spike in power that you can use in between cooldowns, which is something 1 circle of Cata will never be able to provide. Not even counting Deeds of Valor which is another huge boost to overall damage.
>>123721041
You can go Hoplite3 > Doppel, or Hoplite2 > Corsair if you want more damage. You could take Squire > Doppel if you want to jew a bit, or even Squire2 for full jew.
>>123720924
I will get back to you on this in a bit.
>get to 60 without ever using exp cards
>always thought they were just a bonus for completing a quest and that quest gave exp
..s-should i use them all now?
>>123721535
specifically the Druid spell that grows grass will activate OoB's damage bonus
Paladin's Aura will also activate the OoB damage bonus.
>>123721662
>for the final release
Your wizard build would not be possible for final release because some of those Alch and Sorc skills aren't going to be C1.
I don't suppose anyone is selling monster gems at a reasonable price on Gabija?
>>123721927
I know, I'll go C2 on both.
>>123721778
Just don't go over 5 levels on your quest map. I'm on 116 and haven't even used one since I'm constantly in level just by killing things on the way while questing.
>>123721769
>that hair
shit
also you're a jew.
>>123722178
>>123721778
>what is double exp event
>>123721703
>>123721550
Pros and cons between Doppel and Corsair? I initially thought of them as more viable with barbs and highlanders
>>123720220
Traps take full damage. They can only lose one life at a time.
Also Pyro benefits majorly from links. Linking a fireball to a monster causes the fireball to splash to itself, doubling the number of hits it does. If you link a level 10 fireball to a boss the boss will take 20 hits worth of fireball damage when you hangman that fireball in to him (turn off the "damage on hangman cast" attribute). Pyro2 -> linker gives you more damage than just pyro3.
>>123722397
What about it, I'm just telling him not to overlevel on his quest map or it'd be a waste
Some faggot Barbarian -Corsair walked in moments later and killed it, while I was preparing to Double Pay Earn it.
Fuck this shit.
>>123720841
A-anyone? It's been over an hour without a single healer showing up. ;_;Just kill me now.
>>123722364
no anon. im your best friend. trust me
JUST
>>123719556
>mfw I actually saw a swordsman3/rodelero3
>>123722430
>Traps take full damage
Well that speeds up my bosses, thanks.
I just don't want to see how linker works changed too much, because it has so many neat possibilities. I know these things need to be balanced, but having certain combos be very strong is what makes the game fun.
How do I cast monster skills with druid?
>>123722593
He's most likely put the entirety of his points into con, making him an asset to the group due to the fact that he doesn't need to be healed.
I wonder what new skills squire 3 will have. We need booze skills for extra comfy.
>>123722728
set up an EXP buff table. 1 hour buff for 10% more exp from mob kills
>>123722593
>Circle3
>Level 50
How?
How many points of Zombify should a Bokor
WHO PLANS TO GO BOKOR 3
take?
>>123723090
You get to it at around level 45-7?
>>123723096
No motre than 10
Are Pierce / Synchro Thrusting any good? What about later circle Hoplite skills? I know stabbing and finestra are good.
Absolutely nothing is suspicious carry on
>>123722985
That's actually completely reasonable.
>>123722178
for sure, i might just stick to doing that, killing shit on my way to other quest like ive been doing
>>123721662
holy fuck nigger are you going to auto attack all the way til pyro c1? I am fairly certain that respec won't be as easy at release.
>>123722985
I was thinking of more useful buffs than hp/sp increase and recovery. Something like atk/matk increase as well asmdef increase
Shit would be so cash to have a mini outdoor bar.
>>123723090
maybe he killed a blue mob at class 15 before the job change.
this is a true qt. 8/10, would be perfect if she was a brunette
>>123723368
Yes, Why put points on a skill that I won't use past R2?
>>123720924
Ok, the problem about balancing Cataphract lies in their mobility.
You can't allow a Cata to move twice as fast as anyone else but also being able to dish out as much damage as those who move at slower speed. Imagine mages/archers trying to kite a Cataphract using a strong skill like Cyclone, there would be no counterplay.
Which is why I think they gave Cata charged skills, so they can move fast, position correctly and give them some delay before dealing damage (to make it fair). This is also the reason why their damage is bellow average.
Now, assuming we have to balance around mobility and damage, I think it could be:
1.- Forget about damage, make Cata a class that is all about moving fast and creating chaos in enemy formations. Which is something they already are, but instead of charged skills I would give them more CC. This would make them more PvP oriented.
2.- "Get in fast", allowing them to rush into the enemies to deal huge damage, but losing the ability to get out fast (otherwise it wouldn't be fair). This could be done through something like "can't moves at normal speed x seconds after using a skill" type of thing, or making Trot duration be very short (like 5 seconds) but have a lower cooldown (like 10 seconds).
3.- Nerf their speed, lower their damage (yes, even more), but allow them to move while using skills (like cyclone). This would fit thematically.
Either way, it doesn't matter what you try to do, Cata is a class that is all about mobility and as long as they have that mobility they are not allowed to have as much damage as other classes.
>>123723508
because you're never going to use lethargy either... might as well take 1 points out and level waaaay faster
>>123723559
cata can't use cyclone, your theory has gone to shit.
they're useless.
>>123722580
It has been like that since yesterday.
I had to do a 5 men full dps run
Man, I like to test out scout but this guy. I don't even know how did he. JUST
>>123723508
I would get one in unbind. You can deal damage with the attribute and you can add the joint buff to bosses and stack them a few times even if they don't have anything they were linked to. With unbind you could probably burst quite a bit.
cleric krivis krivis sadhu sadhu druid is the standard burster build.
>>123723508
When would you ever use lethargy? When would you ever use sleep with that build considering you don't even have energy bolt either? If you really feel you 'must' have all of those debuffs why wouldn't you just do something like...
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7bck87d3dw/
Hell, you could even drop 2 from bolt and max shield if you felt so inclined (though I hardly see the point)
>>123721662
letargy = 3 for the attrib (which is really good), put 1 into eq for the disable, extra aoe (later u'll have billions of matk) and, ofc, break ks parties linkes). maybe 1 point into energy bolt for comfy mobs replacement (push shit into your fground) nd better r1 gameplay.
pyro linker alch is all ok, faceroll classes for handicapped ppl
>>123723559
also, there would be counterplay.
you can just sleep/ freeze/ stun/ whatever when he's about to use cyclone.
you can see it easily as well, there's a huge animation before you actually start spinning.
>>123724141
>With unbind you could probably burst quite a bit.
It's shit
t. linker/thau
>tfw not good at grinding so stuck at level 60 on my 4 chars and been playing since the beta started
>>123722427
Hop3 > Doppel: You get to be almost full STR since you get Finestra level 15~17. This means more physical attack and even higher return bonus from Deeds of Valor. You also get Cyclone which is simply destroys anything in it's path.
You will get some downtime though, but it is made up by the fact that your auto attacks become stronger with Deeds of Valor. You also have the niche of getting 2x exp and rewards while using Double Pay Earn.
Hop2 > Corsair2: You get one hard CC (Iron Hook) and one soft CC (Dust Devil), which is something the other build lacks. You also get Hexen Dropper, which isn't Cyclone but it still deals some pretty good damage. And you get the flag which is some decent party support (hey, at least you are sharing something).
Your auto-attacks also have the potential to be stronger using Double Weapon Assault which uses 2 stamina per hit, but you are not restricted to having stacks like Deeds of Valor (you don't lose defense either).
Overall, both builds pretty much destroy everything we currently have available in the game. I am pretty sure Doppel can deal more damage overall with Deeds of Valor stacks (specially when mobbing), but Corsair deals serious damage too.
>>123724141
Druid is a complete meme class. The damage is not that good and AOE only marginally bigger, not to mention it has a 30 hit limit and can't hit flying mobs, shapeshifting is only useful if you transform into a fast moving mob, Telephath is only for force kissing other people, doesn't even work on bosses. The only actual good skill from that class is Sterea Trofh but only lasts 10 seconds, could be a life saver for your party members though.
Cleric C2 is great for soloing as a Sadhu. The new ranks will have bigger, better damage dealing classes than Druid that's for sure, so I might as well just strengthen the ones I have right now with more utility.
>>123723969
It's getting to that point now, but that doesn't sound pleasant with our current party setup.
>>123724094
Future proof. The new trailer only got Scout and Archer skills for Canonneers and Musketeer
>>123724568
DM only gives +1 skill
>there are bokors going full int/spr and using magic attack weapons
>>123723756
Of course they can't, which is why I used it as an imaginary example.
>>123724548
Iron Hook isn't shit?
webm when
>>123724719
I don't even care for Divine Might that much, Fade and 10 extra hits on Safety Zone are very useful for a Sadhu, even more so now that their Possession gets cancelled when they get hit.
>>123724926
Don't forget DM adding a bit more to SZ as well, so even if its not that hot, its useful for both Fade and SZ (which you went c2 for anyway)
>>123724758
and it could be counter played in pvp just as I posted earlier.
>>123724926
Just git gud and don't get hit. It's not that hard senpai
how should I be distributing character level points?
going bokor3 into something else
>>123724568
>Druid is a complete meme class
clueless redditnigger detected
>>123724568
Druid will probably be a lot better on release when you're level 400+ and have 40 hits of carnivory hitting for 10k damage each hit. It's just because the damage calculation is so shit in this game, anything that multihits will be absolutely broken at the higher levels.
>>123724568
>Telephath is only for force kissing other people,
WAIT, I CAN DO THIS?
>>123724548
>Double Weapon Assault which uses 2 stamina per hit
What, I thought it uses SP. The simulator said so
>>123725363
>Duel someone
>Use the greeting gesture
>Use telepath on them
>Walk them over to your character
>>123725141
I think Bokor Zombies rely on your STR and weapon stats, and their HP on your SPR.
>>123725234
It is. I'll just wait for rank 7 and 8 for an actual AOE damage class, Druid is very limited.
I wasn't paying attention and I went Krivis 1, Priest 1. How am I supposed to build this character?
>>123725534
are sadhu's actually sad?
>>123725534
>diev
>>123725591
rmk
>>123725591
Priest C2 into Monk
>>123725591
you could go krivis>priest>priest>monk>monk
>>123717072
I think necro is quite decent but it's not good for the reason a lot of people think it is.
The summons (apart from Shoggoth) are fairly mediocre because have poor scaling.
The strength of necro I've found is that it gives you two very decent offensive spells in the first circle.
Flesh cannon is a good multi-hit ability like multi-shot and Flesh hoop is a fairly decent instant cast AOE that lasts 15 seconds.
I could see necro being included in a wizard 3 build that isn't going Elementalist, to give you offensive options before more open up at rank 7+.
>>123725591
Cleric > Krivis > Priest > Priest > Monk > Monk
>>123725635
I'm trying out all the classes I can for this beta, Diev is shit too at least the C1
>>123725630
Sadhu is amazing
>>123725591
Make absolutely certain that you get you some of that Daino goodness.
>>123725141
int until bokor c2 and then respec into full dex with a splash of spr for the regen and zalcai+hexing scaling
bwa kayiman is essentially the best farming skill in the game so you will be using it 99% of the time, and it functions as a physical attack that uses YOUR crit rate and physical damage. upgrading your weapon will be important, because its base damage is quite low.
>>123725534
bokor zombies scale solely off the level of the enemy you zombified. spr does nothing meaningful for their health pools, to the point where i'm not even sure it does anything at all. bwa kayiman doesn't use their stats, though, so it doesn't really matter.
>>123725947
Show me a good Sadhu build.
Oh jeezWhy is all the art so lewd?
>>123725630
Sadhu are fucking amazing
>Top DPS
>never need potions because of heals and low SP cost
>can teleport around the screen with Praviti
>Safety Zone and Fade mean you are literally invincible
>>123724869
You don't need it for PvE, but it is nice to have that option for PvP (plus it can deal damage and bleeding when pulling through Keel Hauling).
>>123725069
Cyclone still goes through some CCs. But still, a competent player will wait out for the CC to go off before pulling any sensitive damaging skills and once your CC is gone you still have to kite the Cata while your CC comes off cooldown. And even if you CC the Cata that means you have no CC for that Doppel/Corsair/Fencer coming right after you.
There are a lot of plays that could be done in PvP, which are then affected by the environment (a coordinated team, etc) but you are totally missing the point.
The point is about not allowing them to deal huge damage while still being able to move much faster than anyone else. Just search on Youtube for PvP videos, see how Barb builds can deal lots of damage while moving using Pouncing, and people still have a hard time kiting them. Now imagine if that was a Cata.
>>123725459
Nope, it uses stamina, like double punch.
>>123726069
krivis c2 > sadhu c2 > druid
better for solo
krivis > cleric c2 > sadhu c2 druid
First Swordsman. Any inputs on what to fill the two X spots.
Swordsman> X> Hoplite> X> Corsair> Squire
>>123726317
What's Druid for?
>>123725591
Can also go Krivis Priest 2 Pardoner 2 if you wanted to.
Jew em with buff shop and such.
When will Brandish exist?
>>123726320
Pelt. Hop2. Why Squire on Rank 6? You can take that at rank 6 and take Doppel at 6, if you're only taking 1 rank of Corsair, why bother
>>123726580
never
>>123726069
this is the cookie cutter Sadhu build for maximum soloing. You can substitute Cleric C2 for Krivis C2 if you want more DPS over survivability. When I hit Sadhu C2 and had to start grinding Demon Prison, I almost never used OoB because Possession was too amazing and OoB is more of a solo tool since you need to set it up (OoB, Defensive skill, activator) while grinding requires you to run around everywhere.
I might actually just go Krivis C2 if I stick with Druid because leveling to Rank 5 is pretty easy now even without Fade. When I get to Druid, I have the invincibility Grass to replace Fade anyway.
>>123726372
Carnivory damage and transforming into cute monsters
>>123726580
Q4 2016.
>>123726069
>>123726372
Cleric C2 Krivis C2 Sadhu C2 for a nice balance between solo and party play
You could choose one circle of Druid instead of either Krivis C2 or Cleric C2, Druid has an AOE damage skill as well as an AOE invincibility one. I wouldn't recommend going Druid at all and just wait for the new classes to roll in. I'm sure Shepherd will have more mobility skills and Plague Doctor looks like it's going to be an AOE damage dealing class.
Main Chamber done. Is it demon dicks time?
>>123726597
>take that at rank 5
>>123725868
that looks so lacklustre
>>123721662
>5 heal
>5 cure
I really want 10 cure but sadly we have to get 5 in heal.
>>123726881
>cryo
What kinda build you got going on there?
>>123726881
Not yet. Dungeon reset soon honey!
>>123726881
You can do the dungeon until 150 if you want to avoid demon dick for a while.
>>123724548
Thanks. I might go Hop3 for more sustainable Finestra. Doppel seems good if I can get more damage then equip a shield instead of a dagger and keep my Long Stride
>>123726372
Druid synergizes really well with Sadhu
>Sadhu rank 3 is pretty poop
>Grass is another thing that can activate OoB
>Carnivory is a super strong version of Cure
>Grass can be turned into a giant Safety Zone
>Transformation lets you go SONIC FAST
>Telepathy is free kisses
I also found out if I use the speed buff and cancel my transformation, I can run around like a Cataphract but still use my entire skill set. It's really useful for boss rushing.
>>123727301
Standard. I wish I could have done something more interesting but Sorc is just so damn strong. I hope in thenext closed betaChrono is stronger/reworked, I'd love to make one.
>>123727323
>>123727351
Oh right, how long till reset? I figure midnight but I don't know what timezone.Will you run the dungeon with me?
>>123727537
>Will you run the dungeon with me?
I asked you ingame but you didn't answer ;_;
Also 50m until reset.
>>123727537
>Standard
Woops, here.
>>123727651
Oh sorry, I've been running around a lot today, I probably didn't see the whisper.I need to study my nip tongue until reset. Whisper me around then okay?
>>123726938
Without quick cast most spells are
>>123727448
Rather wait to see what the new classes do, they'll probably be better anyway.
>>123727710
I sent a friend request that you didn't accept.;_;
>>123727537
>>123727710
How is it compared to good ol' Pyrolinker? Not expecting it to be as good, but is it miles behind?
>>123726681
I went Krivis 2 into Sadhu, the Zaibas splash is incredible but I really can't use OOB without Safety Zone and it only blocks 10 hits. Increased Daino is great for dungeons, too.
When grinding you'll literally never OOB unless you find a place where monsters are not aggressive and die fast (Dina Bee Farm), thankfully Zaibas and Posession are both very good AoE as long as you get to channel.
Also playing with a Linker/Thaum was super great
>>123727830
>Ranked 6 classes are going to suck because Rank 7/8/9 will exist
>>123726681
>possession now gets canceled if you take damage during it's cast
Someone please shoot me
>>123728081
>still not responding to erp
>>123728019
>Go into a dungeon with a linker
>HANGMAN'S KNOT
>POSSESSION
>HANGMAN'S KNOT
>POSSESSION
this was so ridiculous we were laughing throughout the entire thing.
>>123728108
If the Possession thing doesn't get fixed I'm rolling a new class in OBT desu
anyone else lagging/freezing ingame?
>>123727934
I haven't tried Pyrolinker, but from what I've seen the damage is a fair bit lower, enough that it would be a problem if you were coming from pyrolinker. It does have a lot of control though, hangman+freeze meant I didn't need to put points into con for a very, very long time. If I wasn't so greedy will swells I still wouldn't.
Now that I have Sorc and TS I feel like it's evened out at the very least. I have plenty of damage now, and the control stays. Freezes mean my TS hits an entire cluster more often, and Icewalling only gets stronger.
>>123728081
Cleric, Krivis and Sadhu all are worth going C2 for. You could be potentially breaking a good future proof build by going Druid instead of waiting for R7 classes.
>>123728108
>can't cast my shitty rng hail or electroCUTE because reflect shield is broken
>>123728019
did you buy attributes for Possession? It doesn't look like you had Swell Arm on. I keep avoiding buying attributes cause I'm hilariously poor.
>>123728108
It's a bug. Only physical hits from monsters will cancel it. Magic hits don't, at least not always. Hoping it gets fixed.
Just Safety Zone before you channel it, if you're using Possession you won't be needing it for keeping you safe in OOB
Any Gabija alchs in here? I need an awakening service.
>>123719193
Lepus are a fucking joke for my Hoplite/Doppel. Why do people say they are hard?
>>123728403
20 ranks in both OOB: Enhance and Possession: Enhance
30 in Zaibas, 40 in Cure
Also I have on-hit attack memegear that procs on every Zaibas hit, every Possession hit and 3 times on every OOB basic attack
What the fuck is the problem with the spawn rates in high level zones? This has to be some kind of bug or something. I can't even do quests.
>>123728815
no bug
just IMC being turds
>>123728560
man I just spent all my money on a Kaloo Hammer, still worth though
>>123728397
>not falling for the Wizard C3 meme
or did IMC also break Surespell too?
Add Chilled status, worse than freeze but enemies move slower and can still detonate Ice Blast on Chilled targets.
Freeze mechanics remain unchanged, however, bosses can be chilled at the same rate normal enemies are frozen.
Reduce Ice Wall CD to 30s
Reduce damage of projectiles from Ice Wall by 30%
Ice Blast is now AoE and when it breaks freeze the target becomes chilled and spreads chill to enemies in AoE.
Ice Blast CD reduced by 15.
Ice Bolt SP cost reduced and AoE radius increased by 25%.
Did I just fix Cryo?
>>123728417
Except im using safety zone to use astral explosion instead, in prison 2F
>>123729171
Kinda wish Ice Pike didnt have a 35 second CD. I mean Fireball has fricken 15 second CD and does way more damage too.
>>123729171
you turned them into ice wall: the class
>>123728882
Hammers aren't useful on Sadhus since you don't make use of the physical attack at all. (also why does the OOB attribute reduce physical resistance when OOB is magic damage)
Obviously Kaloo Hammer is made for Sadhus but I think an awakened Elder Rod is better.
>>123729336
Cryomancer C1 is Icewall: the class already
>>123729370
>Hammers aren't useful on Sadhus since you don't make use of the physical attack at all. (also why does the OOB attribute reduce physical resistance when OOB is magic damage)
niceme.me
>>123729336
So nothing changed..?
There's gonna be another cbt before obt, I just realized they haven't opened pvp for testing.
>>123729463
they have
>>123729370
Maces have some sort of innate bonus for OoB if you activate the damage multiplier. I already had a +7 Awakened Elder Rod, I did more damage with OoB anyway. I still have an Elder Rod though for magic Spam. Kaloo Hammer also has a unique sprite which is like 99% of the reason I bought it.
>two people dueling
>throw down a heal
>>123729426
At least I know a weapon with more physical damage will not increase OOB damage (upgrading your mace etc.) Maybe there is a hidden damage bonus for using a mace with Sadhu, it's all really confusing
>>123729535
where? point it out
>>123722554
hahah that's what you get for being shit
>>123729535
If you say in korea thats not a valid point, iCBT has bugs that kCBT didn't even dream off.
>>123729596
>heal the one thats obviously winning
>losing guy still uses it as an excuse
>>123728019
That's why you should go Cleric2. Fade is basically "Mobs won't attack you for 20s as long as you don't hit them". Stuff like Zaibas/Cure/etc will cancel Fade, but OOB attacks won't. All you need to do Fade -> OOB -> Zalalalclaiaia -> Swing for 20s while mobs ignore you. You can see in this video I hit a mob once, then walk away and it doesn't aggro my soft squishy body at all. That's Fade. Fade is da bes.
>>123729904
not to mention that even if you safety zone, you can get hit with a status attack through it (THANKS IMC) which will cancel it.
FADE DA DEST
>>123729596
>Someone sends me a duel request
>Decline
>Send him a duel request while putting 2x Zaibas under him
>They accept and die immediately
works every time btw
>>123720306
meme gloves are actually useful though, +2 aoe means you can hit 1-2 extra targets per attack. realistically one of the better awakened items gives +8 aoe (that doesn't work right now), so that'd be quite useful when mobbing trash due to how aoe works.
>>123729904
>soft squishy body
>burrow
Is this the new afk stance?
>>123729171
lol, no. leave the c1 as it is, icewall is balanced now (hp gains with levels, dmg is matk + eledmg) and 60 sec cooldown is ok.
imo they should just remake ice blast into another cool finger slap spell. or just bring back the old ice blast since we have 3 overheats now. it used to be 0 cooldown spamable like bokor's effigy.
bolt is fine, maybe bigger aoe at c2 or c3 attrib.
you can't give more things to cryo c1, you are just making this another "one circle wonder class". and cryo c1 already is a very good one circle wonder.
>>123730058
The only time Fade sucks is on a boss if you don't have a pet. I literally only use my stupid pet because if you fade on a boss and there isn't another target it just regens back to full. Of course your pet keeps trying to walk back to you after it swings, so the boss turns to face it and faces you.
That's why I stopped feeding my pet. To punish him. Because fuck him. He's an asshole.Also he doesn't walk as far back if he's slow.
>>123730218
I'm a lazy cleric who punches things with my mind. Of course my body is soft and squishy and lumpy.
>>123730058
>That quest
My body wasn't read.
>>123730385
Sure is.
>>123720121
Get Cafrisun, most of the time as a Hoplite you are auto attacking and the additional earth damage gets bonus damage from concentrate and arde dagger
>>123730216
>>123730486
Word, I'll try both I guess and see how I like it.
I'm just posting this so I can see where to go while lurking this thread
>>123730218
>kuuko's va is dead
>died to japanese cold
;_;
>>123730735
STOP REMINDING ME
>honeymeli
is this the fat moneybee?
>>123730409
>cryo
>wonder
I guess you mean "I wonder why no one takes it"
found /tosg/
>>123730651
remove
>Sentry Bailey
>Feretory Hills
>Sutatis Trade Route
>>123730894
yup, everything in that map is monies
Wow Sorcerer attributes are poop.
>>123731048
Sometimes I think /tosg/ are the only ones playing. I run into you guys everywhere I goyou're always extremely pleasant
>>123729171
Simplest fix: Turn Gust into the Ice counterpart of Hell Breath, change the attribute so it applies 100% damage if being knocked into an Icewall.
>>123729904
how long does your OOB body keep the special magical circle damage bonus after touching zalciai??
>>123731364
How many cards do you have saved up before your dicking?
I just took every single card a level 150 sadhu had in a fair card battle session. After that, a spectator gave me his 8 star necroventer for free. This is a good day. I guess I'll make a sorc after all.
>>123731557
I'm pretty sure that as long as you don't leave OOB the bonus damage stays up. I've managed to go entire boss fights rotating Fade->Safety Wall->Fade and I didn't have to rebuff my spooky punchghost to keep the increased damage.
>>123730414
>if you fade on a boss and there isn't another target it just regens back to full.
cast Aukuras after you fade, it acts as a target for the boss to hit.
>>123726071
I like how she has a custom sprite for literally only that one line of dialog.
>go out
>look at everyone's butt
>get home
>log in
>look at everyone's butt
>heal a beat up boy
>see him stop, probably typing something
>run away
>>123731364
>mfw I've never run into anyone from tosg and I'm from gabija
Teach me, senpai.
Where do I grind from lvl 180 to 190? I'm getting destroyed in this quest.
>>123730827
>just play through tales of zestiria
>enjoy firesword's voice actor for how hilarious most of it was
>look her up
>died a month ago
FUCK EVERYTHING
>>123732447
in 175 dung
>>123732447
Go to Roxona Market or whatever it's called and the zones beyond. They're extremely easy and have decent mob density.
>have 40 million silver but nothing to spend it on
Already maxed all my good attributes.
Why can't Peltastas use the same costume as the Peltasta Master?
>>123732764
We dont have massive funbags.
>>123732764
Then everybody would be just as sexy. Like an anon said, player costumes are just shittier versions of their class masters'
Oh god, why is cafrisun this amazing
>>123732969
it starts falling off a bit at 200, especially if you party with a pyro+priest or buy sacrament buff, since you'd effectively get a lot more damage from using a meme elemental equip set.
Gabija down
>>123732703
Up to what level do you stay there?
>>123733065
Well, I'm only 120. Don't have any money for those fancy things yet
>>123732764
I wish I had the Druid master outfit desu senpai
>>123733257
Use your goddamn cards
>>123731897
Not many. I'll need to work on that. What zones should I go to?
>>123732078
They like to draw boobs, anon.
>>123732295Post a million pictures of your character and people recognize youI just really like to talk about video games, I swear.
>>123733257
>not going for the best one
Accessory Merchant maido outfit
>>123733523
this was right before I spammed them. I am qt druid now
>>123729904
Does out of body grant an additional hit or something? if you were using cafrisun I could understand a second hit, but not a third since you didn't use sacrament (since no priest2).
>>123733757
Thanks, hope you enjoy turning into cute animals.
>>123733779
Every swing of OOB is 3 hits.
Unfortunately these three hits don't benefit from stuff like Blessing and Sacrament.
>>123732838
The Peltasta costume looks nothing like the Peltasta Master costume though. Not one bit.
Where is the 175 dungeon? I forgot
>>123733893
did they ever fix Effigy not doing the damage bonus or no? I wanted to make a Bokor Druid but I need my DEEPS
Just unlocked Psychokino and I'm wondering... does the damage for PP drop off or something? I honestly can't see why people don't think this class is good.
This one move alone just... melts stuff.
I do wish it did something with the SP though since the % cost makes having SP gear and SPR seem like a waste.
>>123733997
They haven't fixed anything on bokor. It is completely broken at the moment, and bwa kayiman isn't nearly as useful as it was before getting hit broke the train.
>>123733941
Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
>>123733994
Nuordin Falls
Apparently this is the damage system
((Skill Attack + Attack + (random(0 ... 1) * Magic Amplification) * (1 + T0)) - ((Defense - Defense Debuff) * (1 - Level Penalty))) * (1 + T1) * (1 + T2) * (1 + T3) * (1 + Enhance) * (1 + Critical Hit) + Critical Damage + Elemental Attack Formula + T4
How is this damage? I'm not sure if I'm doing decent at all. I don't feel weak, but I see people tear through this zone so I'm not really sure how it stacks up.
>>123734465
>(random(0 ... 1)
I'm guessing this is min-max attack
any info on the T's?
>>123734703
magic amp is RNG damage
>>123734624
I don't know but your character is very cute.
>>123734772
Depends though is this physical, magical, all around? where's the damage type calculation, the elemental weaknesses
>>123735027
I'm stupid its all around the damage type and elementals are probably the t1-t3
>>123734090
It's nice but I've found it underwhelming for normal mobs. Mostly because, without linker, I almost never feel like I'm using it to it's full potential.
For bosses it was a nice way to take out a chunk of damage. That was until I got an arde dagger. Once that happened a properly placed icewall would decimate any boss in just a couple seconds.
Does the lvl 190 dungeon give good exp? Enough to get to lvl 200 in a few rounds?
>>123735279
Yeah, gives a shit ton.
If you cant find a group you can solo the lower part.
>>123735279
It gives better exp than the 175 dungeon relative to your level.
How do you get into the Roxona reconstruction agency?
>>123735279
You can go from 192 to 200 in two runs if you go alone.
>>123735198
Since I got it... all it has taken is 1 cast to kill every boss I've run across. Its kinda silly, so far.
I'll agree its not so hot for mobbing but that's what I use my other skills for. Besides, last time I played a Wizard, it was the bosses that took the longest for me. This class just breezes through all the fights like nothing. Its kinda crazy.
>>123735448
Oh nevermind it was just all the way to the left side of the crossroads place.
So how good is this Temple Shooter card anyway? Chapparition is doing a pretty good job and i'm not sure how much to spend on Shooter
>>123735525
I don't know what gear you're using or what path you tool but my experience was about 1/4 of the bosses health per cast.
Again a properly placed icewall, without dagger, would do a little more but most times I just walked up to the boss and held down the spell.
Temple Shooter
>AI
>>123716945
I wish Grita would follow me forever instead of my useless pet
>>123736208Furry detected
>>123736117
next time resize your webm to a smaller resolution, and use the full 4MB limit.
>>123735901
I'm guessing its just due to being low level but this is what happens...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCRHsUmvfM
My gear is absolutely nothing special.
>thick chain is untradeable
Why
>Disconnected, moving to character selection
>Disconnected, moving to server selection screen
>Exit game, steam user must be logged (it is)
>Fuck it, reloads launcher
>Takes fucking forever to get in
>Fucking finally, now lets select Gabija
>Cannot connect to the server
Honestly, fuck these gooks wanting to put this mess into Open Beta, this is not even alpha quality
>>123736532
Alright, I'm not too good at making these yet. Haven't tinkered much with the program.
>>123736532
>4MB
I though the limit was 3.
>>123736541
>The Revelator has come here alone. Exactly as I wanted.
>>123736541
My guess is it's the low level and, for that one, having a boss that gets killed at half health.
It won't be quite as good as that for ever. But it will be one of your high damage spells.
>>123736747
mixed up with /wsg/'s limit.
other boards outside of /wsg/ and /gif/ should be 3MB, that is correct.
Anyone up for 175 dun?
>>123736889
She "dies" at half health but she also takes a lot less damage than anything else around this level.
That's around 150-200 less per tic than I do to other bosses in this level range.
I realize this isn't the best bracelet available but I kind of want to make and use it anyways.
>>123737156
Use it instead of Bearkaras
>>123737026
Actually, looking... its more like 50-100.
>>123737308
good idea. as soon as I can figure out where the plants bracelet drops
>ingame map is called Laukyme Swamp
>is called Raukime Reservoir on tosbase
REEEEE
>Adaptation of Circumstances - Talk to Bishop Aurelius
>Area: The Grand Corridor
Is this quest bugged? His NPC is at the Sanctuary and isn't interacting
>Stabbing doesnt have weapon restriction icons on the skill
Could you use Stabbing as something like a Fencer?
>>123737630
use the book on another floor senpai
>>123737884
You can use Stabbing with a fucking mace.
This place would be perfect for grinding if not for the bwa kayiman bug. these things just spam arrows at you and it's impossible to not be interrupted.
On the bright side, within 5 minutes of getting in here they dropped a roxona plate boots recipe, and their special gem.
That gem also gives +1 to chortasmataToo bad it isn't carnivory
>>123737884
why wouldn't you?
also the skill would be godly if the range isn't so shit.
Low droprates for dungeon items would be okay, if however the dungeons were re-doable an unlimited amount of times at your choosing.
Would that not strike a good balance between older mechanic 'low droprate' online games and 2015 more casualized styles of play, where there are so many games to choose from you need to retain your player base in any way you can?
>>123737884
Yes. But why would a Hoplite go Fencer?
>>123737983
>>123738014
>>123738062
I mean, would going Hop 3 into Fencer be the worst idea in history?
>>123737995
Whoops forgot my picture again.
>>123738090
Yes
>>123738090
If you'd like to throw your 150crit rate into the thrash, sure. Not like Fencer would be dependent on earlier skills though. But you could have went Barb or something else on your way to it
>>123738090
You can't use your Finestra 15 and Spear Lunge with Rapiers. Two of the biggest Hoplite selling points.
Not sure if it's okay to quickly switch weapons just to use those skills.
>>123737983
>Not stabbing with your fist
>>123738016
the runs per dungeon is fine the market is bloated as it is.
>>123738394
>not stabbing with your dick
>>123738407
>the runs per dungeon is fine
Based on what may I ask?
>>123737932
Thanks, I totally forgot about this thing
>>123738407
well for high level ones it isn't, they even specifically changed it from 5/5 to 2/2 for us
>>123738745
the fuck is this
>>123738745
where do i download this virus?
Is it possible to create a party when party system is kill
>>123738745
>improve FPS by making the game look stupid
no thanks, i'll wait for them to actually fucking fix the problem instead of doing stupid shit like this
>>123738982
<HotKey ID="MakeParty" Name="Make Party" DownScp="party.ReqPartyMake(123)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="YES" />
>>123739104
the fuck is this, where do I put it?
so when do i get to fuse all this Dante's necklaces with +10 stats
>>123738552
based on its a close beta with a limited number of persons
>>123739316
never
>>123739104
Thanks senpai
>>123739316
You mean these? You can fuse these?
I am giving out lv 10 temple shitter card on Gabija, leave your ID if u need 1
>>123739573
HotchOwl
>>123739439
you missed one and the collection box for it. it gives you +1 int honey.
>>123739573
did someone here finally find the magical free item exploit after all this time
>he hasn't given away his closed beta kiss virginity yet
>>123739674
Well I guess that's something. Also means I missed a bunch of tier 6 cards. Might go get those then. Thanks.
>>123739769
probably the pond in the last area. top right.
>>123739750
>tfw agirlteached me how to kiss in game only to cheat on me 10 seconds later with random passing dude
gotta say it was prettyhot
I got a few questions about pardoners. Mostly about simony. Does leveling it do anything? Can it make ANY cleric spell a scroll? Like could we see raise dead and shit if they went bokor?
I have a wizard 3 that was going to go Wiz 3-Ele1-Sor1-Necro1 but seeing as Ele can't really support my summons should I just restart?
>>123739838
Appreciated
>>123739881
That's a terrible mistake waiting to happen. If you've already gone ele 1, but not past that it can still be saved via going ele 3. Otherwise it's a lost cause.
I'm going to miss /tosg/ when the beta is over
>mob has Wizard/Mage on their name
>>123739703
no just no one is buying it, i just have one
Well this was cool, I was hoping this was possible.
Finally made Sorcerer. You know for a build that I though would be pretty shitty this wasn't all that bad.
Now to park myself in the Chapel and wait to see if I can get one of those magic cards
>>123740141
HiQuilin
>>123732295
You ever been to the 90 dungeon?
Then you've seen at least one.
:へ)
>>123740141
I got over there by using kino teleport once.
It was literally so packed with mobs you couldn't see the ground.I was way overleveled and couldn't make use of it
>>123740194
Hope you like all the strawberries I've been putting in. I do it before every run.and it's brought me horrible luck.
>>123740000
I hope I'll see you guys on release too.
Maybe we can do a get together in one spot on the final day of the beta in Gabija and get a screenshot together.Nice quads
>>123738745
give github source
>>123740141
Radical hangtime!
>>123740292
On release /tosg/ is going to have its very own guild and cozy guildhall.Cuteposters only.
>The 10% auction house tax is deducted from you when you list the item not after the item is sold. Y/N?
Too many people listing vendor items and stupid shit with the current system. Like 2 billion silver for a Kepa Pendant? For what purpose?
>>123740387
I can only imagine at least 3 major guilds if its implemented.
>>123740141
Looks like I need to get myself that card again. I knew feeding every one of them to TS was a mistake.
>>123740292
I'm definitely going to play at release. Despite the glitches and problems I'm pretty in love with this game. It's a breath of fresh air. A /tosg/ beta screenshot is a good idea. Let's organize that.
>>123740194
>tfw waiting for everything to empty out tonight before dropping a couple red orbs on usagi tan
>>123740141
Or you could spam backspace in quest teleport its much simpler to float up there
I want to fall asleep in the microcosm of Goddess Saule's supple tits.
>>123740469
>1 for the kissfags
>1 for the memes
>1 for the elitist
I'm fine with this.
>>123740469
On three different servers
>>123740430
I use it as a way to transfer money between characters because no account bank or mail.
>>123740560
I tried that, I couldn't get it to work. It kept dropping me to the ground, or going through the the teleport. Probably a ping issue.
>>123740803
try to desync then float that worked for me
>>123740505
Probably on the last day.
>>123740000
I'm gonna miss my cozy campeven though my party rarely uses the buffs.
>>123740792
>set 2 characters in a non-walked town area on a low population klaipeda map
>set the one with large money to buy an item that the other possesses for a high price through buyin shop
>log onto other who's already in the right spot to give the goods for a high price
100% transfer, minimal risk if you do it right, and it's objectively safer than market bulslhitting.
>>123740669
But what if I like all 3 of those things?
is there some secret beta clique that I'm missing?
I kinda quit 2 weeks ago, because I didn't want to get burned out, but then I realized the only thing that will carry over from this beta to release will be the friends you earn and not the levels you grind.
But fuck I also didn't want to get withdrawal syndrome since there isn't even an obt date for our version.
Why is this game so freaking bugged? Doesn't SK have one of the best educations in the world? How can their programmers be so shitty?
>>123740902
We should advertise for it a bit a day or two in advance though. I'd really like one of those big screenshots with a whole bunch of people on.I always get really nostalgic when I look back on stuff like that
>>123740910
>See Squire with a food table
>Eat sandwich
>thank them for sandwich and go back to killing
You have your place.
>>123741043
>thank
>not like
Do these things have defense?
>>123741023
A few anons like to post their character or things they've found so people recognize them, then they see each other in game and become friends.
>>123740948
Yeah but that's more annoying to do and takes longer. Plus it means having to log on to my alchemist multiple times and going back to klapland. I just like keeping my roast shop in friedman. Also I've never had problems with it and don't mind the 10% loss. It's not like I'm having money issues.
>>123741043
I think I'll just do that while being a useless shitter and afking.
>>123740803
jump>warp>direction>warp, or jump>warp>sit>warp>sit>direction
>>123741160
If you have an established amount of money on both characters it's not really an issue then, unless you were transferring huge sums. Otherwise it makes it a lot easier to give characters with little money lots in a relatively short period.
>>123741109
What is this, jewbook? I'll give you a like if I feel like it.
>>123741278
It's usually just a couple hundred thousand at a time to twink the shit out of a barb. I make millions passively every day on my alch so it's no biggie to me.
>>123741027
This isn't a "Beta" where it's just an early access MMO, it's an actual beta where we're testing for those bugs so that the final product won't be as buggy. Everyone playing should understand that. Balance is going to be shit, mechanics are going to be nonsense, and bugs are going to be fucking everywhere
>>123741247
I just tried that, ping issues are probably the cause of my inabiltiy to do it. I got higher spamming sit/warp, but it eventually dumped me right back on the ground.
>>123741043
>the amount of money I spent making food to feed the people
>and then the fucking table bugged and you can't eat anything even when there's hundreds of food items in front of you
>>123740187
Was it the black name censor bars that gave it away?
>>123741247
Speaking of this shit, does anybody know what just randomly makes you ascend to the heavens sometimes?
I floated right out of the skybox the other day just talking to an NPC.
Solo'd the 175 dungeon cause you said it would be better EXP. Gained a whole level in one run although it took a while to kill all the mobs one by one. Impatience is while all my shit got broken since I wouldn't wait for Safety Zone sometimes.
Sadhu da best
>>123741513I met you ingame.
>>123741540
Your weapons didn't break, and that's what's important.
>>123741298
I wish there's a way to refuse a like, I kinda liked having 0 likes.
>>123741615
Just name yourself xXxnarutoSasukexDxXx and pretend to be brasil
>>123741528
depends theres a fuckton of them, boss attacks channeling while walking, random floating
>>123741615
Sure you do, anon
>>123741792
Not him but I hate I have 17 likes from people I've helped. Helping people should be its own reward.
>>123739653
THis nigga didnt respond to my whisper, i guess it probably is broken, so i sold it lel
>>123741792
In a world where everybody has likes don't you wanna be a faggot hipster that has none
>>123741741
>not giving likes ironically to those kind of people
Kirito? Liked.
Naruto? Liked.
Goku? Liked.
>>123741742
This was the random floating category.
I recorded it but I'm too lazy to do anything with the recording. I fell straight down once I moved, but I just let it take me out of the skybox so far that my screen was blackness.
So what's a good card for a sorcerer to use if they don't have a temple shooter?
I've tried a few and the Necroventer doesn't seem bad. But I haven't tried any extensively.
>>123741857
I get likes from just having a reasonably priced roasting table. I even get friend invites.I've never once talked to these people why did they add me.
>>123741912
yea that c2 cleric / c3 dievderby had no likes and some shitter had to ruin it and give him one
>>123741587
Well then, that would certainly explain it. I was actually surprised that the const. chapel b2 has an effect that ignores the fact sorcs don't have passive sp regen while a summon is out, so you can actually regen sp faster than it decreases even with riding's increased consumption rate.
Shame that sorcs completely outlevel that area for that reason though.
>>123742037
Chapp something, the big grim reaper that isn't necroventer.
>>123741396
Always this excuse. This game is 7 years in development with one of the biggest publishers in Korea backing it. There really is no reason for the game to be in its current state.
So how many likes do you whores have now?
I have 50. Pretty good since I never talk in shout, never parties outside dungeons and not level 200.
>>123742058
>achievement: reach 200 with 0 likes
>title: lonely
probably the hardest achievement to achieve
>>123742146
You're right, bugs just fix themselves without testing. Once the game is released I'll be harsh as fuck with the bugs, but while it's in closed beta I'm going to forgive pretty much anything. Open beta not so much.
>>123742049
>>123741857
>Have 39 likes even though all I do is afk and usually in areas there aren't a lot of people
>>123742276
I don't understand kids these days.
>>123742234
25.
I don't know how.
I have no friends and am surrounded by peoplewho don't speak my language.
>>123742234
I thought I had 17 earlier. Oh well. I haven't been partying too much I guess.
>>123742256
>unlocks hidden class NEET
>>123742476
>NEET has no abilities and can only auto attack
>NEET cannot use abilities of previous classes
>NEET does 10% damage with auto attacks and cannot receive buffs
>NEET has no level or stat limit
It's perfect
>>123742271
there's already been like 3 beta tests you fuck
not to mention that every time they "fix" a bug they break 3 other completely unrelated things
>>123742647
>inb4 all the bugs were actually caused as a side effect of the translation, much like older console games
Is it me or /tosg/ doesn't give 2 fucks about world bosses anymore.inb4 sekrit 200 demotion team
>>123742647
I'm not saying they aren't slow or shitty at fixing bugs. I'm just saying that it's too be expected until either release or open beta, which is just a hesitant release.
If the game didn't release for four more years and was constantly ducking in and out of closed beta I'd still give it a pass, because they haven't released it yet. The moment it's released shit stops being okay.
>>123742743
are there people killing starving ellaganos?
>>123742743
What's there to give a fuck about?
>>123742743
I will on obt / release.
Otherwise what's the point? Let the shitters have some fun with them for now.
>>123742115
I initially ruled him out because his damage didn't seem so good. But that swing hits a pretty good area.
Also just now I was in the process of seeing how things work with the Terra Imps. When a large party of brbarains swooped through and tried to kill everything I had assembled.
They did a pretty good job of it but when the Velniup recipe dropped it dropped for me.
>>123742743
The only ones that matter are Mineloader, Necroventer, and Cerebrus.
>>123742743
I don't give a fuck unless someone come up with a better way to track of the spawn times.
>>123742743
most people don't care, quit the game, got some much talt they fell into depression or are in muh sekrit club
>>123742791
Even RO had bugs at beta, look at how that turned out
>>123742924
>modern RO
Yeah...
Welp, 154 and can't do any more main story quests. Time to ride some demon cock I guess.
I always hear people say how this was supposed to be like RO but didn't turn out anything like it. How is it so different? I always regretted missing the RO wagon.
>>123742647
This game is about being cute and getting likes, you faggots thinking this is a game about killing pixels and getting to max level are going to be so dissapointed.
The only reason to level up is to get more cute outfits, if you're not changing class every rank up to get a new outfit you're basically fucking yourself in the ass big time.
>>123742818
Does this shit even drop anything
List of things you need to get done before the beta ends:
-Hit R6
-Be liked more than 10 times
-Make a Brazilian player so enraged that he switches to english
-Become /cute/
-Have someone in /tosg/ call your character cute
-Kiss (between two active players only, no kiss baiters)
-"Special" kiss
>>123742924
>RO 2003
>ToS 2016
What's your point?
>>123743140
yea the only problem is with fencer being too cute nerf it please and buff peltasta to peltasta master
>>123743140
m8
thats been the endgame for every online game in the past 8 years or so
>>123743291
Almost
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
>>123743317
what's wrong with her ear
>>123743134
I never partied with anyone and always played by myself since the iRO beta. I never made it to 99/50 on any of my character. I only stopped playing RO when WoW first came out.
>>123743291
What's a... "special"... kiss?
>>123740469
You forgot 1
>An exclusive guild for Squires, Alchemists, Pardoners and Appraisers.
>>123743291
Done
Done
Done
Done
Done
Fuck off
Kill yourself
>>123743317
This bitch has those titties that look like water cleavage. You know when she turns too quick and it's like there's a tiny ocean on her chest?
I love that
>>123742439
How much defense your summon has, and how hard he gets hit?
>>123743294
Given enough time people will forget how shitty RO started out to be. And forgot that it only improved with the updates.
Has anyone made a webm or gif of Rodelero's High kick yet?
>>123743359
When she class changed into peltassta, her old master made her use a waffle maker on her ear as an advancement test.
>>123743291
Done all of that except kiss. Fucking kill yourselves you kissfags.
>>123743291
Did all of these aside from the gaylord kiss shit.
Faggots need their own general
>>123743468
Here are his stats. I have no idea how hard he gets hit because I never watch for it. I'll say that he has never, ever, died though. He is at 7 stars, also.
>>123743417
"Special" kiss is just that, anon. It's the special one that makes your face go beet red, maybe you add them to steam after.
>log in
>read the shout
>its the same shitstains day after day
I see everyone already left.
>>123743707
>102 spr
templeshooter fell for the spr meme i see
>>123743707
I see, my TS is 7 star too, but i have base SPR. Thanks for info.
so did you guys decide on what class you're rolling for release?
i'm still debating between monk and hoplite/dragoon. want to see c3 monk skills before i commit
>>123744023
Yours hits a lot harder than mine. Is your summon higher than 1? Can I see your stats?
>>123744075
monk is suck
>>123744075
nope because dragoon is the future meme class and I want to see shinobi in action
>>123744075
The skills Monk has now will be distributed between 3 circles, not 2 like now. it's just for testing purposes, look at how many skills necro or druid has.
>>123744075
I'll probably rush Alchemist to try and get some of that sweet dough.
Then probably Monk. I just like being able to get in the middle of things and not have to worry about buying pots all the time.
>>123744216
Well that explains that. Thanks.
>>123744075
You can't decide until we see the unreleased classes anon. Most you can do is find what you don't want to go. Witch doctors are cool but Bokor made me want to kill myself, for example.
>>123744269
yea basically. EB is a huge disappointment.
the class has top tier sustainability but spamming double punch all day gets tiring real fuckin quick. wish there were combos or some shit to pull off like in RO. or even call spirit sphere/throw spirit sphere. as it is right now it's literally 95% double punch with a hand knife/palm strike/1inch punch thrown in there on cooldown to apply the dots.
>>123744075
I really want to go Musketeer. Going to roll with some friends so they can carry my ass to that point.
>>123744306
>Dragoon will be the meme class
>not Shinobi
lol
it's op and a faggot class, 200% meme.
>>123744306
>he doesn't think that naruto the class won't be the meme class of all time
BRs love that shit anon. No chance you will be a special snowflake shinobi.
>>123744412
Its not RO you nerd.
>>123744075
Alchemist
>>123744075
c3 Corsair or Shinobi
>>123744075
>Archer C1,C2 -> Ranger C1,C2,C3 -> Something -> Musketeer
Damage for days
>>123744451
I thought everyone loves one piece and hates ninjas that's why they made kiritosairs
>>123744075
Not even close to deciding... the beta only made it worse
Like most of the builds I had in mind turned out to be shit or are broken, it does feel like in the end only 4/5 builds are really good and then there's some less optimized builds that end up being decent because ranks 5+ are strong anyways, and then the poor faggots who didn't research mostly get fucked in the butt because their skills don't scale properly and shit like that.
So far Monk and Sorc feel like the safest bets for me, archers look pretty strong at 200 and geared up, but if the rates are abysmal leveling up might be a real nightmare, so Imma wait till I have a high level pet to carry her.
>>123744543
yea i know. just saying some combos would of been nice.
>>123744075
Jew class to fund my shitty classes
>>123744075
Pelt 3 Squire 3
>>123744615
they will play sword C2, Barb C2, Corsair C2, Shinobi.
It's the ultimate kiritoluffynaruto BR build.
>>123744637
make some friends and have them carry you
>>123744729
holy shit you're right.
you can be kirito, naruto and ichigo all at the same time. this is the maximum class
>>123744543
>one class
>one possible build
yes, sadly, this isn't RO
>>123744817
>Corsair
Don't forget wan piss
>>123744851
RO has optimal builds just the same
>>123744075
Definitely Cryo/Psycho/Linker
>>123744903
yea but a monk could of been an asura monk, combo monk or spirit sphere monk. there was also the tank monks or the occult impact monks.
>>123744903
And yet, there's always alternatives and other builds where its debatable which is best or that are best for other things.
It was never just "this is THE monk build"
>>123744960
What was even the point of combo monks aside from feeling cool
>>123745104
botting
>>123744075
Honestly, it's a hard decision. If there's shared storage, I'd want an alch for awakening and making my levelling life easier on new characters, but if there isn't, I'd probably roll c3 priest again, simply for that delicious cafrisun auto attacking until 120 meme.
My ability to choose after that is based solely on if my ping is better or not, since I have a monk as it is and my double punch speed is decisively lacking, making it barely better than my auto.
All I know is that if I choose a casting class I need to invest a bunch of con so I don't get rekt, especially if I decide to go pyro linker 2/3. Actually, has anybody gone pyro > linker 3? I'm interested to know how badly the fireball link falls off when it doesn't hit 10 times per usage.
>>123745104
they were great in pve. not so much in woe tho
>>123744960
Not to mention, some builds would use similar skills but some might have VIT, AGI or hybrid variants where the stat allocation was enough to change the cards used and also drastically alter the playstyle even when using similar skills.
>>123745104
MVP
>>123745185
can someone explain what woe is and if it would work in this game
And so it begins.
>>123745230
Basically guilds would fight in a huge castle trying to take over it within a time limit. Winner gets the castle with loots and a dungeon
>>123744075
I'm frozen with choices and still not entirely sure how it works.
You can like switch to a new class or keep leveling your old one but there are like 11 or something per archetype?
Can you respec?
>>123745230
War of Emporium. Essentially a pvp tower defense game
>>123745293
It's ok, do the quest line first and then when you've finished as much as you can get back to riding demon cock.
>>123745293
good luck m8. hope you see some blues
>>123745026
Okay babby go back to RO.
>Combo monk
Trash
Asura is also better than Sphere. But both shit on combo
>>123745293
You have the easy mode demon cock, It took nearly a week of my life to get through there.
Holy shit
Reversi works on Blut's acid ground. It's fucking awesome.
>>123745408
Better than sphere at wasting Yggs, not much else.
>>123744075
Jewquire, Jewchemist, Jewdener
Why have all these bosses been level 1? I'm pretty sure on my first three characters they weren't level 1.
Maybe I'm just losing it.
>>123745372
>>123745387
>>123745421
Actually, I should probably get most of my level 7s before I start this, shouldn't I? That way I don't waste experience.The only level 7s I've gotten are from the main chamber areas, where else do they come from?
>>123745210
Look you stupid nigger.
When RO came out stat builds were not so diverse and cards barely were a thing.
Yeah if you compare 10 years of content to an unreleased game then I would hope the 10 years is better.
There is a reason its so fucking hard for people to quit WoW for newer mmos and for new mmo to compete with WoW.
>>123744075
Making all the jew classes Squire, Alchemist and Pardoner.
And then siphoning all that money to my Archer.
>>123745408
there's also Tank/Blade Stop builds. Guess you forgot about that one.
point is there's like 4 different builds you can choose for the class. while here there's maybe two.
>>123745421
Stop saying demon cock!
>>123744783
I been playing mmos for 15 years, and I been trying to play with friends, but it's almost impossible, Either I play too much and outlevel them in no time, or I join a tryhard clique and then get stressed because I pretty much have to play to keep up, and then they start inviting new randoms to the group to fill my spot and I feel left out.
I had some good times in Age of wushu, but mostly because said clique kept making alts so even when I didn't play as much as them I could still get carried when they carried their alts.
I had some good friends in RO as well but I was playing hardcore during a summer, pretty much 16 hours a day or maybe even more. I really can't do that anymore, and even if I could I don't think that would secure me getting a static party in this game, people fuck up with their cards too much and get separated.
I hate it, because I keep seeing this br's grouped for pretty much everything in every god damn quest, and the game rubs it on my face by showing me the nearby parties that I can't join. I wish I knew how people manage to get friends that play with them almost all the time, unless it was someone literally living with me or having a very similar schedule and just as interested in the game as me I don't see how people can coordinate to level together and not having a fuckhuge level disparity.
/rant
>>123745469
Stop playing on private servers. Faggot
What if we were meant to get past the demon cock withawakening dungeons?
>>123745484
This happened to me before on some other bosses. Just randomly like 2-3 bosses were level 1. Then after that they went back to regular levels.
>>123745494
>When RO came out stat builds were not so diverse
Yes they were.
Even if for the fact that RO was in beta for years. Still, when the original release happened stat builds were very diverse and there were plenty of good uses of cards.
Glad to know there's still people who pretend to have played games at launch but probably never played them at all.
Makes this place fun.
>>123745591
Never have. I'd say the same to you if you think Asura has ever been "better" at anything that wasn't PvP.
>>123745646
>Yes they were.
No they were not. Stop joking
what level should i stop doing the 90 dungeon? getting kinda bored of it already
Did I memed /tosg/?
>>123745604
Alchemist is a rank 6 class.
>>123744330
>>123744580
>>123744653
>>123745476
All these jews rolling kike classes, I might need to rethink going goyim.
>>123745707
yes you do big damage
>>123745710
>One man must suffer the demon cock to free us all
It's beautiful in a way
>>123745707
Cookie cutter spear Corsair
>>123745735
i'm just gonna do the 90 dungeon 5 times a day and get abunch of meme daggers. sell em for 1 mil each. no need for kike class
>>123745554
Pretty much this. It was faster to make new friends with the same mindset on said game than bringing in your own friends to play.
>>123744075
Swords, highlander 3, squire 1 and doppel.
>>123745686
pls im 106 right now
>>123745682
Nigger, the game launched with a fucking viable punching acolyte build
Fuck you nonsense.
>>123745854
Sup Xelasta
>>123745931
>viable
You're an idiot. I can go make "viable" builds in this game too. It doesn't mean they are good.
Go fuck off with your shit.
>>123745920
Around 110 is where you stop doing full runs but you will still be doing boss rush after that for meme daggers.
>>123724094
Once you're scout 3 everything is ez mode.
Check out this semen demon
What are some Potential Tree of Savior doujin plots besides 15 levels of demon cock?
>>123736767
>Gesti grows a futa cock and makes the Revelator into her personal onahole
>>123745707
Do you hate it
>>123745936
Who?
>>123745646
>>When RO came out stat builds were not so diverse
>Yes they were.
Yes and No, It was diverse but people didn't know that yet at the time. It was pretty much a cookie cutter 1 build 1 class, when RO started.
/tosg/ makes me feel like I went back in time because the same is happening here
>>the game launched with a fucking viable punching acolyte build
this was because at the time people didn't know how to level a priest without a party also people thought agi was the greatest stat on earth at the time
>>123724094
Whats the problem?
Oblique shot can literally carry you to 200.
>>123746243
Agi when RO came out was the greatest stat at the time.
Perfect dodge was also broken before they leashed it in.
You can see similarities between TOS beta and RO beta.
WHERE DO I GO I'M 181
I REGRET NOTHING!!
>>123746243
No, it was because swordmace fucking sucked. The only other way to do a melee priest was with the stunner club and that was a novelty build.
FS priest healbombing and so on was already a thing.
And I don't know what RO you played but there weren't even as many online resources there for planning builds there as there are now. It definitely wasn't cookie cutter at the start 'cause everyone was doing their own thing with little to base their builds on.
When it launched there was a LOT of crazy shit and diversity that diminished over time as people started to discover what was good.
PUNCHOLYTE survived until it got nerfed. It was that damn good.
>>123746348
even lvl 5 OS? been thinking of this QS build... but I'm afraid of being too hard to level....
>>123746504
I played beta did you play release?
Does anyone know the damage calculation on OOB attacks?
>>123746132
It feels alright. No massive AOE or anything, but I kill what I want to kill quickly, since Spear Lunge buffs Piercing, Stabbing, and Hexen Dropper. Mages, Highlanders, and Barbarians probably out-AOE me easily.
It doesn't have much slash damage, which I think might be a weakness, except Dust Devil.
>>123745554
I didn't start making long-term friends in games until around SWG, and when VOIP programs like Ventrilo and stuff became really popular. When I don't bother to use a voice program to communicate with the people I'm playing with, they become much easier to ignore. People act completely different in voice chat, so you actually get to know the people you're playing with on a personal level, rather than just knowing them by their online persona. Strictly text-based relationships are hard to keep, and I've been in and out of IRC communities since Quake 2.
BRs tend to stick to eachother like glue simply because they're BRs. They're always looking for other people that speak Portuguese, and form a bond over the fact that they're outsiders in primarily English-speaking communities. The same thing is true for Malaysians, Filipinos, and lot of other SEA communities from what I've seen.
The point being that people need a reason outside of just the game's objectives to stay with each other and become long-term friends.
>>123746551
Both.
Played it from closed beta all the way til FFXI came out.
>>123746461
What does upgrading this do? The description remains the same at every level.
>>123746674
Then you clealy remember that everybody was an agi build on the first days, then people started to branch out and make other builds.
Much like how people are saying how demon prison is the only way or optimal way to level.
>>123746674
So you barely played ro
>>123746816
>Much like how people are saying how demon prison is the only way or optimal way to level.
but that's true
>>123746075
Thaumaturge Master using/teaching swell breast/butt.
Goddess's filling you with their "Holy power"
Popolions gangbanging a poor archer
A lady wizard "linking" with a jew class for her arde dagger
A druid shapeshifting into a monster to fuck a low level player
A young wizard trying to become a cryomancer, going into the pyro master's hut only to be captured and toyed with
Bokor zombie rape train
Alchemist trying to awaken an ona-hole and getting trapped in a fuck dungeon
Pawned's capturing and raping potential threats with their loli pussies
A Pardoner accepting sexual favors instead of talt
A druid mind controlling a poor archer to do lewd things
The companion vendor "training" her animals
Sorcerer summoning a succubus or the harpy, the ai glitches out and it becomes "hostile"
A young eager squire prepping their party for a hunt
I reserve further plots for when I know the rest of the classes.
>>123746606
>out-AOE me easily.
Isn't Finestra's splash enough? Or are you referring to skills
>>123746816
I clearly remember not even having an AGI build myself so this is definitely bullshit.
>>123746827
If all of the fucking ages it was in beta til over a year after release is "barely" (I guess I should have mentioned I got FFXI on PS2 release) then sure.
>>123744075
After going Monk 2 and it disappointing me (I did enjoy not having to use pots like ever though), I kind of want to reroll into almost full support Druid 2 or Fencer 2
>>123740558
>tfw it doesnt attack shops who are logged out
:へ)
>>123746940
Do you know how to read korean?
>>123746653
Malaysians are the best god damn bros in the world, I somehow managed to get into a Malay clique a long time ago, we gamed together for 2 years and had a blast, at some point I got bored of playing the same game, so I sort of abandoned them... when i came back things weren't the same, some people stopped playing, and some hated me for leaving like that.
Such a huge fucking mistake, I been spending all this time trying to fill the void with this shitty f2p games, but in reality all I wanted was to have this online clique of friends that would welcome me every time I login like I was their blood relative or something.
>>123746975
I know how to read KSSN.
>>123746935
Even with Finestra, I hit fewer things on my Corsair than I do my Highlander, let alone things like a Pyrolinker or a Cryokino.
Cartar Stroke alone will out-AOE anything the Corsair has, and the Highlander has Cross Cut and Moulinet to boot. And everyone knows about Seism and Earth Wave.
>>123746075
Gesti falls in love with the Revelator and switches her goal from taking revelations to taking semen!
>>123746734
Supposedly, it's 1 point of evasion per level for 3 pieces, and 1.5 per level for 4.
Don't take me at my word on that, though.
>>123747083
Then you haven't been reading the forums or the bbs at the time.
>>123746438
guys, please, i'm 2/2 with the 175 dungeon
>>123746940
The alpha/beta stave is about as long as TOS and TOS may likely beat it.
But yeah you didn't play RO long at all.
>>123746075
>>123746915
Wait I forgot one.
The revelations are just recounting a few of the goddesses fucking random worshippers
>>123747169
Definitely long enough to know what the state of the game was near release, which was what the conversation was about.
Who cares if I didn't play it for 10 years? Its not relevant.
>>123747140
Now I KNOW you didn't play at release. Apez had their forums and there was a huge RO fansite forum that I can't remember the name of for the life of me.
>>123747169
*stage
>>123745936
Nigger thats not me.
highlander is quite meme
if u were to exploit deed of valor, high str hoplit with finestra is best
unless they change 2hander on release, highlander has to suffer with crappy 2hander, literally u lose at least 20cri rate just on gem
But if u like to spam skill and run around instead of swashbuckling, go ahead pick Highlander, its still pretty fun.
the squire pick was a nice touch tho, since NPC repair cost is proportion with the weapon value, while squire repair cost is proportion to stars and rarity. Aston 2hand is only 720silver to repair compare to 7k on npc.
>>123747062
That group of friends I made in SWG stayed together for like 10 years, through WoW and subsequent MMOs and online games. I basically did the same thing you did, got bored of WoW and quit, then just pretty much abandoned them. They're all much older than me and have wives/children/jobs etc, so there was always bound to be a disconnect in our lifestyles, but I still regret it all the same.
>>123747150
fuck off furude
>>123747290
What year did you started playing RO?
>>123747290
Not really. Quite a bit changed from alpha/beta into a few years after release.
I'm finding it hard to believe anything you said considering early RO was FILLED with agi builds. Agi wizards were hugely popular for example.
>>123731364
>Sometimes I think /tosg/ are the only ones playing
Same, I run into familiar names all the time, every now and then I feel like saying hello but they don't know me since I always crop my name out of screenshots. Some memespouters but they're all mostly nice people.
So I finally got that golem boss working in the owl forest. All the descriptions in various forums giving me bullshit, and it turns out that the solution is to mash the spacebar and keep talking to that tiny golem until you piss its mother off.
This isn't that fucking hard to say, internet.
Also, I just learned about the hidden quest on 4F of the Mausoleum, which I've seen, but missed, because I chose to read the book right fucking next to it. And when I completed THAT quest, the hidden one was gone.
For weeks, I thought I just saw something wrong. Now I feel gypped.
>>123747084
Does the AoE really matter that late game?
>>123747469
Why do you crop your name?Tell me, did you ever post in gw2g? Ahuman engineer?
>>123747480
What quest is this
How much is a templeshooter card worth /tosg/?
>>123747562
probably the one that need a bloodstone
>>123747376
If you have a point, just get to it. Otherwise go shitpost elsewhere.
>>123747442
I'm likewise finding it hard to believe anything you said because you don't know about hybrid swordies being extremely popular (in fact, that's what I played) as well as battle-acos (which was the only AGI build I was interested in trying) nor VIT Mammomite smiths and so on.
To say that AGI was it was definitely not the reality.
Hell, I remember iRO's launch was when my friend started exploring natural crit luk builds.
>>123747519
I mainly duo grind with a friend. Maybe it's because I just got done with both prisons and 175 dungeon, but having good AOE makes life a lot easier when grinding.
>>123747630
If it wasn't 2001, then yes, we aren't playing the same RO.
has anyone figured out ways to harass other players? like I been thinking, maybe you can make a party of cryomancer and keep people chain locked inside ice walls.
I loved playing games where I could heal the enemy mobs and made people so angry they couldn't kill anything.
>>123747594
i can give you one for free if youre on gabija
>>123747753
Wasn't there that thing with Druids that let you kill everyone?Does it still work, and can someone tell me how to do it?
>>123747805
It was fixed
>>123747757
No, I have one I had wanted to sell. I've been synthesizing all my cards into it and I see people selling regular temple shooters so I was curious as to how much the higher level ones sell for.
>>123747753
Whenever I go to town I make sure to Icewall the stairs between the statue and the shops. It is a very mild inconvenience but it always causes 4-5 people to be grouped up on the stairs. It makes me smile.
You could also swell body mobs another player is fighting, but that's just mean.
Who drops Gladiator Bracelet?
Templeshooter?
>>123747831
>>123747757
Since he doesn't want it I would love one.
I got bored sitting waiting for one to spawn.
>you don't need to grind after 177
I love this meme
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>>123747878
Recipe is from Violent Cerebrus but you probably could have looked that up yourself but I guess I don't really care anymore.
>Make default move speed same as swordsman sprint
>If you unsheathe your weapon you go back to the current speed we have (swordsman can still sprint)
y/n?
>>123747891
What's your name?
Price check: Skull Amulet
>>123748073
The world will feel a lot smaller.
>>123748126
Good, it feels way too big right now cause it's all just dumb hallways, I want to move on cause there's nothing to do in them.
>>123748105
NPC price
>>123748073
No, changing movespeed constantly like that feels gross. It always feels like you're being snared even though you're just going back to a normal speed. They could just give a few classes movement abilities, either dashes or speed boosts in some way. That or make strong movement speed potions. Like, 15 movement speed.
>>123748103
Player2
Fugg I think I finally discovered OOB's damage calculation
>>123745492
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/640113/
the rest of the lv7 you'll get from Demon Prison quests
>level 155 grinding demon prison
>manage to get a good spot going (~4-5M/hour) solo
>one guy comes along, starts killing stuff
>after a while I ask him a question in english
>he leaves immediately, never to be seen again
The drops aren't good, but the exp and the fact nobody is here to compete with me for this is a bonus.
>>123748369
Appreciated, guess I'll start on that tomorrow.Goodnight /tosg/.
>>123748494
>checking /tosg/ after playing
>mfw was partying with /tosg/ the whole time
HEY GUYS IT'S 4AM IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE
>>123748302
Check your whispers
im stuck at the entrace
>>123748226
buff chrono's haste
>>123748584
I still don't get why we have 4am lag on the fucking dot every night
>>123748556
I'm really going to miss you guys ;_;
>>123748584
Fuck. I restarted my router thinking it was that
>>123748452
>nobody in demon prison
How did this state of affairs come about?
>>123748653
Thank god I never partied with any of you. I won't be missing anybody
>>123748747
To be fair it's like 4am and i'm not in floor 2.
>>123748653
I met someone from /tosg/ to whom I immediately felt deeply attracted in a non-romantic (i.e. normal friendship, but intensified) way.
I've been really struggling with depression, but playing ToS with you guys, and particularly with that specific person, has made my life a lot better, at least for now.
>>123748857
was it MarielX?
or Darebear?
Lolipantsu?
>>123749061
I'm happy to say that it was none of the above.
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>>123748857
>a non-romantic (i.e. normal friendship, but intensified) way.
Why do all Sworsman classes aside from pelt and squire feel like the same thing
>>123748857
How do you know he was from /tosg/?
>>123745554
I've never had much trouble playing with casual friends. If I want to play a lot I play an alt character expressly for this purpose, while keeping one at their level.
It's friends who I can't keep up with who're hard to group with, since it's not possible to keep up with them.
>>123749127
The context of our meeting implied the fact.
>>123749101
Yes, like the notion of limerence [1], but non-sexually.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence
Xeltasa what does your skill build look like? I've been looking into making a Highlander Doppel because they have the cutest outfits but Highlanders have like 10 attacking skills. Also is Highlander C3 necessary?
>>123749124
What kind of Swordsman are you playing where Barbarian feels like Rodelero?
Are you ready for no free iCoin resets and clerics being needed next beta?
>>123747693
>>123747084
I thought the spear's range and Finestra's splash would make Corsair good with AoEs. Guess that's a no
>>123747347
>But if u like to spam skill and run around instead of swashbuckling, go ahead pick Highlander, its still pretty fun.
I was pleasantly surprised when I went Highlander C3 and found that I was enjoying myself immensely. They aren't weak by any stretch.
>>123749361
Fun fact: All swordsman have same weapon range regardless of weapon (or the difference is so small that it isn’t noticeable), and cleric’s range is smaller than that of swordsmans.
>>123749361
The best aoe I have is Dust Devil, and if I swap to Spear/Shield Umbo Blow. Umbo blow is still good even with only 5 levels, amazingly enough, and stuns to boot.
Piercing, Stabbing, and Hexen Dropper are very potent but hit a small, specific, and soon to be very dead area.
>>123749334
It'll still be the same as it is now though.
>cast revive and a couple of other buffs
>revive gets removed from the buff list because of the low limit and a shit buff
>die immediately after that happens
Alright got 200. See you guys in the next beta.
>>123749468
Doesn't 2H sword/spears hit a wider area?
>>123749334
I can't wait for people to call me a shitter in parties because they don't pay attention to their HP, don't know how to back off from a big group of mobs when their HP is low, and end up dying because I can't MLG aim my 30 second cooldown heal squares directly on top of them in a 1 second timespan.
We /overkill/ now, first time since Wiz1.
>>123749597
that's why you go Priest C2 Krivis
>>123749649
They do, and Finestra also increases your reach quite noticeably, so I'm not sure what he's going on about.
2H Swords also have a wider arc compared to 1H Spears.
>>123749656
Healsquares are not for MLG clutch saves, that's the PBAE heals.
>>123749631
>he thinks there'll be another beta with free icoin resets
If there's an open beta, it'll probably transfer into the full game, so you wont get these rates with the ability to reset and test some builds out. I'd suggest using the last week to try some other variants.
>>123749691
I might consider it, but losing your own buffs to other peoples is stupid anyway.
>>123749649
>>123749705
Nope, we tested it yesterday I think cause of some posts here, turns out all that changes is the animation which is much more accurate regarding the hitbox, but still not even close to how big it is by default, unequipping the weapon still had the same range.
>>123750046
I always feel a difference with or without Finestra. It must be just the AOE Ratio causing it to hit extra targets.
I'm fairly certain that 2H weapons have a bigger reach than 1H ones though. Did you test that?
Is one circle of Thaum enough?
>>123749887
Ever played turbine game where players can farm credit? tos icoins is gonna be like that
>>123750217
I can’t test 2h weaps cause I don’t have a highlander / barb / cataphract, but we did have a cataphract come compare his 2h spear range and it was exactly the same as every other weapon, 2h swords we haven’t tried but presumably they’re still the same.
Day 10: Still nothing but Talt from Orange Harpeia
>>123750258
yes if you get 50 attributes of swell fap arm
>>123750315
I'm not sure standing on top of the near practice post is the best way to demonstrate the hitbox.
Comparing my Highlander to my spear Corsair, for example, it feels to me like the Highlander can hit things to the side a lot better with 2H sword than the Corsair with 1H spear.
This could be the AOE ratio again. I'll try to see if I can devise some kind of test.
>>123750484
try jumping someone said the range gets longer if your jumping
>>123750484
We’ve tested it, it’s all the same, I’m hitting those things from max range basically, and as you can see the cleric can’t hit them at all from the same spot, weapon range doesn’t do anything, AoE ratio increases number of targets, but no clear difference on range, toggling finestra on doesn’t do anything for my weapon range.
>>123716945
So who's TRULY the greatest waifu?
a) Rozalia
b) Anna
c) Cyrenia
d) GritaGoddessfags GTFO
>>123750046
That's practically crossbow range
>>123750315
>thrusting in front
>magically hitting side like swinging a sword
I thought Spear Corsairs got terrible AoE?
>>123750746
Charlotte from Shaton Farm.
>>123750746
Grita a best, I even got a guy to draw fanart for her.
>>123750746
Nemoken
>>123750645
Also if you still don't believe me somehow, oracle shows the hitboxes even though they don't seem to be representive of my actual hitbox at all, but they are all the same.
>>123750820
That's what I'm saying, weapon's all apparently have the same aoe.
>>123750746
rodelero masterno homo
>>123750775
Hey, its farther than thata bit
>>123750820
Spear Corsairs have nothing on Pyro, Sapper, or any real AOE class.
>>123751309
Of course. But getting to hit at least seven mobs within that range isn't what I'd call terrible
>>123751150
>chronomaster fucks you
>every time you cum she reverts time in your dick and balls but not the rest of you
>you will receive endless pleasure from her for all eternity, as time is frozen around you both
>>123751483
You will need items to hit even 7 small mobs because of AOE Attack Ratio. If you position carefully, you might get about 4-5.
They need to fucking fix dungeon loot tables giving Talt 95% or the time with cards the other 4% and you might get something else with the remaining 1%. Or tell us if Talt is going to be used for anything other than a 'better luck next time' consolation prize. The longevity of dungeons is in danger if they keep it this way.
We're talking loot with a 1% drop chance or less wherein the daily dungeon limit is only 2 runs.
>>123751543She uses her youth for your pleasure. Just like in DtB.
>>123751658
As was mentioned above. Remove dungeon restrictions, so players can run them as many times as they wish.
After all. It's merely party content. The game doesn't restrict you to how many monster you want to kill in the field for that 'tanu leaf' so why is there a restriction here?
>>123749241
Core skill maxed: Crosscut, Skyliner, cyclone, skullswing (yeah I know its pretty meme), deed of valor
sub skill that could be maxed: Cartar stroke, moulinet
situational: crossguard (3 to learn attribute), pain barrier, vertical slash
0 point: wagon wheel, crown, punish
Crosscut skyliner is good combo, both has 2hits and overheat. Prioritize crosscut although has longer CD, it has better base damage, better range, lingering DOT on non-plant or mutant(?) In my experience, I have 30% attribute damage and most mob die in 1 crosscut.
Skullswing max is to have 30s duration of ignore armor. Quite useful to boss like glakuman. I know he has shit loots and drop meme Nulis recipe, but w/e
Deed is very good because of stacking buffs, you get 50% extra damage just by getting hit 5 times. combine with skullswing critical for 9k on cartar is easy.
Cartar stroke is very strong and do strike damage, but unless IMC decide to give highlander a speed casting attribute, you will hardly use cartar 5 on regular mob, let alone cartar 15. basically 5 pt is enough, because with cheap attribute its easy damage.
moulinet do tons of damage to cloth but since no overheat, and high mana cost with critical attribute, this skill could get to lv 10 last
Crossguard is either a 3 point or a no point, dont know if it work with string amulet or not
Pain barrier isn't super armor, but i still take 1pt for the "effect", not for pvp but rather for less cyclone interrupt.
Vertical slash only has 1 hit and not very exciting skill effect. Unless it change to strike, the skullswing into vertical slash combo will probably be useless. Since it does slash damage, plate mob with high defense will take very little extra damage because of plate > slash bullshit damage effect. Only good thing about it is it has overheat, take 1pt if you need to spam more skill.
Noticeable mention: bash, based CC with attribute. help me survive the 90 dungoen cocktrice pull.
>>123751727
>a-anon, I'm ovulating today..
>but you said it's a safe day!
>she moved her ovaries back into ovulation
>you're sure to make at least 1 baby with her with how much you came inside her
Alright time to stop lewdposting
In case anyone is wondering:
Normal OOB calculation = (mATK + 70 - mDEF) * 1.5
Buffed OOB calculation = ((mATK * 2) + 70 - mDEF) * 1.5
Does a debuff exist that decreases enemy's mDEF by the way?
>>123751658
>100 people opens a chest only 1 get it
>how many people do the dungeons twice
>RNG
>>123751821
thanks, probably gonna fool around with a memelander after my Druid hits 200 tomorrow
>>123751815
Because if they do people will just grind in dungeons. whats the point of exp cards then. why even bother to quest.
Do you really get exp penalty from mobs higher than you?
>>123751826
Chronomaster would never stutter, anon.
>>123751940
No, you do if you join a party with someone much higher levelled than you.
>>123751940
No, the exp scaling is just shit compared to the HP mobs get.
>>123751947
Not even during sex?
>>123751150
looks like she'd be related to the alchemist master
>>123751857
Hexing I believe
>>123751991
Think about it this way.
If you had mastery over time and space, what would surprise you any more? I doubt anything at all would catch her unaware.
>>123720924
If cataphract class was like its real life counter part, it would be a mounted version of rodelero, with CC up the ass. knockdowns everywhere, that's what heavy cavalry is.
>>123751936
Dungeon exp rate can simply be lowered if that's the case. This is not a zero sum problem.
>>123752083
>If you had mastery over time and space, what would surprise you any more? I doubt anything at all would catch her unaware.
does that mean she's basically seen every dick in the world and every dick has yet to exist
>>123747062
I am Malaysian and I can confirm that we are bros.
Damn I miss my RO2 SEA friends now ;_;
>>123751821
>Crossguard is either a 3 point or a no point
Why is this?
>>123752135
Even if you made it so that dungeon EXP matched equivalent open-world EXP, people would still pick the dungeon because of lack of competition.
Dungeons would have to give worse EXP for people to not run them exclusively.
>>123751821
oh yeah, what is the thing about Catar strikes knockback? Am I supposed to get the attribute to turn it off?
>>123752239
how about
just hear me out here but what if
WHAT IF they actually made the dungeon difficult
>>123752135
people will still do dungeons all the time beacuse the spawn are readily there. static exp
>run dungeon X times to get to level X grind at X place until X level to next dungeon
This is what you are trying to turn the game to
>>123752287
>run dungeon X times to get to level X grind at X place until X level to next dungeon
isn't that what the game is right now?
>>123752287
I'm sorry, I'm not sure if you're being ironic or not?
Is this not what the game is exactly at the moment? Do we not quest to reach the dungeon for the increased experience, to reach the exp reset to reach the next dungeon and so on and so forth?
>>123752239
This is already implemented. You gain neutered experience if you level in an area that is too low.
>>123752287
>farm X map for X hours to get to X level to quest at X maps to save cards for using at X level
I mean... it's the same thing...
>>123752279
Then what you've achieved is people waiting around to form the perfect group that can beat it.
TOS doesn't have enough mechanical difficulty such that player skill can make much of a difference, between the undodgeable homing magic attacks and lack of active defense except Peltasta's block.
>>123752381
No, because you have to level in the open world, instead of inside an instance where you interact with no-one else besides your group.
>>123752256
If you turn off its knockback it only hits 4 times.
>>123751658
do you want to flood the market with rare drops or something? If anything, they should put dungeons past 100 to 5 runs, not make it easier for everyone get a Pentamion
>>123752443
>No, because you have to level in the open world, instead of inside an instance where you interact with no-one else besides your group.
The only time I had to interact with people in the overworld was telling them to fuck off so I can grind alone cause it's not efficient to have a party.
Fix the game first, then maybe your words will mean something, right now it's kirito only or enjoy slow levelling.
>>123751613
Its a Spear Corsair, it'd hit seven naturally if they're in front of it with splash and spear
>>123752550
I don't see much of an issue with reducing the rarity of drops, since there is weapon upgrading in the game already.
>>123750746
It took me a while to realize that was a monocle and not poorly drawn glasses.
>>123750746
this mate
>>123752608
>right now it's kirito only or enjoy slow levelling
laughingexpparties.png
>>123752676
Yes because 2nd Demon's Prison is the only area in the game, period.
that is the only place where you need a party to be more efficient, even district 2 you can solo more efficiently.
>>123752550
It's supposed to be 5 runs, it was lowered specifically for iCBT because fuck you that's why.
>>123752676
no, that guy is right theres a kirito only secret club thats leveling faster than you guys
>>123752780
I might've seen one the other day, but I think he messed up because he kept getting destroyed by homing magic attacks.
>>123752617
Not every good equip is a weapon lad, and even then, there are meme sub weapons like meme-meme and meme dagger (2.0). Even then, some equips are just better than others, something that you can't ammend just with refining
>>123752772
I know, and I would be perfectly fine with having 5 runs too
>>123752443
There is a perfect example of this in game that contradicts every one of your statements so far.
Demon prison.
If you think of demon prison like a dungeon, that requires you to make a group and work with other players to clear rooms its a fairly apt comparison to my example. There is no 'clear limit' to how many rooms you can clear before being locked out of the demon prison map. Yet people have chosen that spot as an efficient means of farming thus sit there for literally days on end (Before the exp increase) killing monsters. When they reach level 167 experience gained is so minimal that they move on. (Use cards).
Demon prison can be though of as a level 150-166 dungeon with no lockout, no loot drops and no end boss.
>>123752842
But anon, you can practically upgrade every single piece of gear, except maybe your bracers and necklace.
For what purpose.
>>123752870
I agree with you, but you've missed my point. Demon Prison is in the open world while a dungeon is instanced.
I like Demon Prison.
>>123752906
He wanted to test Archer 3, and then he decided he wanted to test Scout 3.
>>123752896
>Even then, some equips are just better than others, something that you can't ammend just with refining
You can't get crit rate, dex or +x elemental attack with equipment refining
>>123752906
Futureproof.
All skills have utility
>>123752996
>Futureproof
This word used in the context of TOS is a synonym for masochistic.
>Think my Sadhu's OOB 2k+ damage per hit and Possession 1300k+ damage per tic attacks were strong as hell
>Just saw a Swordsman class spin around with a double handed sword pulling 4k-6k numbers clearing an entire area by itself
At least I can heal myself and have no need for SP potions
>>123753061
2k+ per hit?
wouldn't that be 6k per auto?
dunno what you are complaining about
>>123752834
most of these guys will breeze thru 130-200 in 2-3 days with 2x exp
>>123752906
so he can use oblique AND split arrow
woah
>>123753125
600/800 * 3 depending on the monster
>>123753184
on the bright side, swordsman have stupidly high cooldowns and you can just run around doing that forever
>>123753184
2.25 damage? What are you, level 1?
still unsure if i should go pirate fencer or dopedude
>>123753248
well Sadhu also has to wait for Safety Zone and Fade since OoB is a fickle thing to use
>>123753050
Oblique spam is just as fun/unfun/boring/mindnumbing as any other archer build, all you need is pots and upgraded weapons.
>>123753408
I'm sorry, but it really isn't.
is it true that last beta people couldn't even get to rank 4 thanks to the low xp rate?
>>123753493
Royal Mausoleum was the Demon Prison of ICBT1 so most people gave up at around level 80
also
>>123753569
>>123753569
new thread
>>123740291
I prefer raspberries but i like strawberries. Hopefully Gabjia will smile upon you one day
>>123743424
I am in. Sign me up. Ill manage the guild bank.
>>123741034
In a town or near a statue please. Id like to throw up a donation box in the picture.
>>123742276
>>123741857
Afking out front the 90 dungeon with my jew box open. People donate and like me.
They like me for taking 20% of their vendored items.
They like giving me money.
>>123755649
That's what happens when you're scamming them with the misleading shop title, you scummy fuck.
>>123742718
>game runs fine for the most part in korea
>all these bugs NA is having dont exist in korea's version
Its likely more true than you want to believe.
>>123755970
Luck is a placebo effect in everything. It doesnt exist unless you believe it exists. Im just doing them a service by letting them believe they are getting better luck while farming a useless and easy dungeon. Deep down they know its a lie but they still "donate" because they still wanna feel good about themselves.
I can put the shop title as "Give me 20% of all your vendored items" and i would still end up with a box full of shit over the course of a day.
Stop being bitter and put your shit in muh box.
>>123756248
How long do you have to afk to collect any significant profit?
>>123756386
Its about 250k a day. 400k a weekend day.
You can set up the box and log out and itll stay there.
>>123756410
ayy
I make 300k+ in few hours with my Squire.
I think scroll selling Pardoners make more though. The one at Septiny Glen selling Blessing and Sacrement always sold out very quickly.
Anyone know how to super zoom in and out?
I have this command but I don't know what to do with it.
<HotKey ID="ToggleFlyCamera" Name="" DownScp="_cam=(not _cam);camera.ChangeCameraType(_cam and 1 or 0)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO"/>
>>123756512
I built retardedly and didnt know about the "buff shop needs buffs that require reagents" bullshit otherwise id be peddling the prison street corner all day instead.
That said, i could sell daino/zalciai scrolls and dispellers but people dont really know they exist or think they are any good. Also, im pretty sure someone from here is selling dispellers for dirt cheap which is kinda a piss off and not worth the sitting afk for a few hours shit to just sell a couple thousand of them.
Skill scrolls literally cost 7.5-10k each to make. Add in the paper and the profit you expect to get on something like that and you arent selling them to people who might just play with them. Their main use would be bosses in dungeons but frankly, they are completely unneeded in this beta. Also, daino scroll just for the priest to use its monstrance and/or holy water buff is just hilarious and no one would pay 10k just to do that for 3 minutes.
>>123756640
use keyboard mode
press shift + f11
>>123740331
Later today. Also yeah, for now these are just user.xml tweaks, since I'm lazy and it's not like I need these on every time.
>>123756640
Permanent boss zoom when?
>>123756683
I know that much but where do I put the command? to the hotkey.xml?
Does dispeller work in pvp? For example vs Telepath or Telekinesis?
>buy buff scrolls from GEMINI in channel 1.
>suddenly Bless and Sacrament are being debuffed and gone for some fucking unknown reason.
I'm wasting my dosh in these shitty buff scrolls. I don't even have my buffs on and the buff scrolls magically disappear while I'm fighting.
