More Dead Than A /kfg/ Thread Edition
(It was too late to stop it Krell)
http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/
[Some helpful stuff if you're interested in map-making]:
>http://wiki.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?title=SDK_Tutorials_%28Killing_Floor_2%29
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7H4EpSs1tk
>http://blog.tiaan.com/link/2010/07/24/unreal-technology-udk-hotkeys-shortcuts
>For those interested in Soundtrack modding, Anon recently compiled this list of number codes:
http://pastebin.com/squmr8yn
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
>Check the pastebin for tutorials, Crash fix, Downloads, Console commands and more:
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
>Guides for beginners (STATS/STRATS MAY BE OUTDATED):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425843240
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=435407843
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc.
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Fix mouse sensitivity
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1369921&postcount=9
I suggest you set KFInput.ini to read only to prevent the settings from getting reverted.
>Grind map (Normal zed spawns in a boxed room)
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635
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First, I guess?
Is this a thread for ants?
>>123630825
H...How did I mess up the general image so badly...
I have failed...
oh well we're all dead anyways
>Thumbnail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMAYOoi56IU
>>123631390
Did the microtransactions announcement really FUCK up the general that badly?
>>123631642
It was already a really slow general.
>3 months for one perk
>crates
>microtransactions in an early access game
>that ugly new patty
Really cemented its ded status. A mercy killing, really.
Seventh for collapsing
>>123630825
>thumbnail
One fucking job
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1454233&postcount=9
>>123633450
So that means no update until after Christmas or what?
Will the mod workshop save KF2? Because the DEagle and 1911 are really ugly.
>>123633450
OK so it's in QA now.
Gud, gud, gud.
Let's hope they release next week.
Oh, and whoever fucked up that OP image, you are a disgrace.
>>123634784
Here's the actual image if anyone wants it
>>123631642
I haven't played the game since they announced it. If this update doesn't fix some of the balance/meta then I'm just going to stop playing entirely for a good while.
>>123635242
Same. I dropped Payday 2 to get away from crates, I don't want more of this bullshit.
>>123636906
Unfortunately it's not going anywhere, friend. I'm just going to ignore it as best I can. I'd be willing to live with it if Tripwire would just got the fucking balance right. I'm not expecting a perfect balance pass this patch, but Christ, there better be some big changes or I'm going to be done for a long while.
>>123637841
I can't accept it. Not in an early access game while we wait three months for one perk. Crates are bullshit and any company that puts them in their game willingly deserves to go out of business.
>"You know, microtransactions just aren't greedy enough."
>"What if we make them pay for a CHANCE at what they want?"
>"That's brilliant! We can put different qualities in too so it's even harder to get the one they want!"
feels like we've run out of air
they tear the breath out from our lungs
What if: healing armour only applies if you still have armour, or had armour.
Personally, I think it should be a passive that could be improved upon. At level 25 you have a passive of 5 percent armour repair, and there is a perk at twenty to increase that to 10 percent.
That way we can make free armour an actual viable perk, by introducing or moving another perk to the same tier (I suggest nano bot, or maybe a vampire. Something equally inconsequential but allows for different gameplay)
Tripwire seems to have no direction with many of their perk trees. What do you personally suggest, ded friends?
>>123631484
This man was right. We should've listened to him.
>>123631484
I'm not gonna say he called it, but he called a fair amount of it.
It pains me to concede that much, but I must.
I just realized I don't know how to take out Scrakes or Fleshpounds effectively without the use of Zwei, Micro or Nuke, because I never played anything above Hard until those things came out.
Help me /kfg/, how do I do it?
>>123644342
>Scrake
A good Berserker can solo Scrakes
Commando with good aim can decapitate them
>Fleshpound
They eat shit from Explosives, Demo with C4 and RPG is good, after that just shoot at it until it dies
A good Berserker is vital for EMP grenades
>>123644342
AIM DOWN YOUR SIGHTS
WHILE YOU
AIM DOWN YOUR SIGHTS
WHILE YOU
AIM DOWN YOUR SIGHTS
WHILE YOU
PICK UP A GRENADE
Money people.
Yep, sure pal.
whats hes got on his arms
Here are all the Killing Floor 1 voice commands and automatic squad responses.
http://kf-wiki.com/wiki/List_of_Squad_responses
Why is Killing Floor 2 so, so inferior in comparison?
Money here
Get some proper gear.
>>123644342
Any perk that isn't Medic can take out Scrakes pretty fast.
Demo, Zerk, and Firebug are the best for Fleshpounds, Commando and Support are just too risky to be trying to use your SCAR/AA12 to take them out by yourself.
>>123644342
Concerning Scrakes:
>Commando
Use SCARs, or if unavailable, AK12s to take their heads off, aim for the face.
>Support
Use AA12s to the face (or failing that, the chest) to shred them. DBSs will also be effective, assuming proper application (twinshot to the face at extremely close range).
>Berserker
An empty Pulv, is said to be fairly effective against them, as is the Eviscerator (ranged attacks).
>Demo
While unconventional, dud rounds from an RPG can be very effective against Scrakes. They can take their heads off or even knock them down.
>Medic
The 401 Med Assault Rifle is surprisingly effective against Scrakes when fired to the head. One full mag to the face on a HOE Scrake can obliterate more than half of its health.
Concerning Fleshpounds:
>Commando
Use grenades to begin with, then aim for the face (or at least, the glowing chest) with SCARs, or if unavailable, AK12s.
>Support
DBSs are adequate, but the AA12 trumps the rest. Aiming for the glowing chest or head will result in significant damage inflicted.
The M4 is useful for stumbling Fleshpounds, but is outdone by the AA12 in terms of rate of fire and damage, so the M4 is generally the poorer choice.
>Berserker
The Pulv is arguably more effective than the Zwei thanks to explosive damage. Use the heavy hit against the Fleshpound's chest. Berserkers carrying the Zwei for Scrakes and the Pulv for Fleshpounds will have nothing to fear, even on HOE.
>Demo
Putting aside Nuke, C4 and RPG rounds are most effective. Grenades may also stun Fleshpounds, with the appropriate Level 20 skill taken.
>Medic
While less effective than against Scrakes, the Med Assault Rifle remains effective when fired at the head. However, your focus should probably be on healing.
Whether you embrace these instructions or not, be sure to adapt your play style as appropriate.
Know this, the update WILL bring nerfs to the Zwei, Wave Gun and Nuke. Players who have grown too reliant on these things will suffer.
>>123647545
>The Pulv is arguably more effective than the Zwei thanks to explosive damage.
Except it's objectively inferior to the Zwei an an empty Pulv because Pulv's explosives don't do head damage.
Smash doesn't work with it either.
Pulv's recovery time with ammo is too slow to justify it.
No matter how they change the Zwei, microwave gun, or nuke.
All 3 will still be better than the Pulv, flame thrower, or concussive force.
>>123648201
Well Microwave gun makes sense being better than the Flamethrower since it's a T4 weapon. Not that I agree with this linear power creep.
Bring back support and demos power to handle scrakes and fleshpounds better respectively again, its not as fun when zerks are the ones handling all the big guys snd taking all the fun
>>123651632
>>he thinks the zwei won't be nerfed to a 2.5
>encroyable
Like Tier 2.5?
Zwei should be increased to 1500 and be a T4, and the Pulv should get buffed and a price decrease back to 1100 with cheaper ammo.
>>123650639
There has to be some form of progression, it's not like you can use your T1 weapon the whole gameunless you're medic.
And if the T4 wasn't good enough to take out scrakes/fleshpounds, it'd just be another over-sized trash clearing weapon.
>>123655349
Then just switch to zerkor firebug.
>>123655349
How to fix support:
Massively increase the pershot damage of shotguns while keeping the ammo low
Give 3 extra grenades at max rank
bam
>i want the KF1 trenchgun sound back. someone better mod that in at some point.
>i miss my M4. if it comes back it better not be held by the mag again.
>i need a clientside third person mod to use in normal servers. sick of joining modded servers just to play the game how i want to.
>just 1 female atm? my gf hates having to play as a french punk bitch, she wants ash or mrs foster
What're your must have/changes with the game?
>>123656507
>Buff Support, general balancing work overall
>Re-add Insult Players
>Rename the new patriarch to something else and make a new one based on his original design
And I'll die happy.
>>123656652
>doubtful it's what you're thinking of, but i think support could use more max ammo as part of abuff
>if we could insult specific players who are being retards that'd be even better
>let's call him 'the blob' or some shit. in all seriousness, new patty is keeping old patty's quotes so we won't get an updated model of old patty, new is completely replacing
So what currently needs rebalancing in your opinion?
>ammo for both commando and support
>more weight for support
>zwei nerf
>nuke fix
>microwave gun nerf
>ammo pickups good again
what else
>>123657553
More Zeds on the map at once.
Compared to KF1, the zeds seem to attack in much smaller numbers at once, there are many long breaks during a wave where there is absolutely nothing to shoot.
>>123657553
pump shotty/trench gun could use buffs. those things are supposed to feel powerful but atm they feel useless. I know they're starter weapons, but it feels like the varmint performs better than the pump shotty at this point. also the 9mm pistol could use a VERY minor buff. I think it needs to be able to clear up clots, slashers etc. a little easier, but not 1-shotting them
>>123657687
especially with 6 people, and all players are spread around the map. when the ones split away from the main 'group' get nothing to shoot at
>>123657553
Don't forget stuff like less ammo cost for Support, which was raised into ridiculousness. Also, it's not only the Zwei that needs nerfs. Getting 100% more damage on hard attacks with one skill is fucking stupid. The game has completely made parrying unnecessary because of how much damage the Berserker can output and how much it can tank with one Medic up his ass. He needs small nerfs in other areas to make parrying a necessity against larger zeds so it actually takes skill.
>>123657696
>9mm can one shot clots
No it can't if you're not a Commando with his perk skills.
I'm pretty new to the game, so I feel like asking a few questions. Currently playing support.
1. Should I keep the trench gun or sell it for a boomstick?
2. Is it better for me to just rush the M4 shottie or the AA-12? After I get the AA-12 what other gun should I buy? Boomstick?
3. Should I use dual 9mm pistols? I'm having fun with them but dunno how cost effective it really is.
do you guys like my satire?
>>123657553
A supplier icon with a green bar below health/armor for when a Support/Demo is using their supplier perk.
It seems dumb if you have to announce that you have supplier on as Suppoer/Demo, since you have to run around or in front of people for the "press e to take from supplier" to pop uo.
Grenade supplier is kinda useless compared to on-contact but Ammo supplier compared to 20% more starting ammo and carrying capacity depends on if people are actually taking ammo from you or not.
>>123658227
> 2. Is it better for me to just rush the M4 shottie or the AA-12? After I get the AA-12 what other gun should I buy? Boomstick?
AA-12. Then the Medic Pistol to heal people since (unless you're playing on Normal) you're gonna be skrimping dosh to the AA-12. At that point you'll be close to Hans and thereby you'll need the healing darts AND AA-12 to help survive Hans.
>>123647545
>support: Use the AA12
Th-thanks for the advice
kf2 was a mistake
twi was a mistake
>>123657553
Support needs more damage than ammo, honestly. Extra shells would be great but it needs raw power and rewarding going up in a zeds face to land a powerful shotgun boom
>tfw still play support
I just like watching the bodies fly from a single boomstick shot
So this is the KF2 general right?
Can someone link me to the KF1 general?
>>123667095
You're a few years late senpai
>>123667095
Eat a dick
>play with 2 friends on hoe
>pick zerker
>shitty custom map
>friends die
>20 hp left
>25 zeds around me
>zed time procs
>crovel zandatsu
Why no one has told me that spartan perk is so fun to use.
>>123667814
Zed times only five seconds though. How did you clear all 25 zeds within that time even with Spartan? I thought the weapon was still affected by the WHOOSH bullet time and it wasn't real time like your character.
>>123667701
>>123667741
What's wrong?
>>123668686
everything
>>123667814
You're lucky a siren didn't fuck you up.
> doing outpost suicidal
> playing demo
> can't use rpg and grenade launcher at same time so conserve ammo
> wave 6
> ask the berserker if he can lug my nade launcher to the site and drop it on the ground so I can use it for trash
> He does
> picks it up when the wave ends
> replenishes the ammo for me
Bros and teamwork
>>123670424
>Any time someone dies and I pick up their gun, I take it to the trader and fill its ammo before dropping it since I know they'll be strapped for cash
>Still give them as much money as I think they need anyway
I know how you feel. It feels great doing it for others.
I'm playing on a shitty laptop used for work in Norway, playing on 640x480 resolution. I'm gonna try to play some "Hard" mode. Well, it's hard for me as it is on this computer.
Want to tag along, or just chat - steamid is my name.
>>123657553
>So what currently needs rebalancing in your opinion?
Nerf Medic heal and free armor. Fixing Zerk will only balance Zerk. Fixing Medic will help balance the entire game.
>>123670424
That guy on the right has seen some shit.
>>123655991
How to fix support:
Make the hit detection not shit.
>>123674740
This times a thousand.
>>123674740
>>123674926
I've never had a trouble with hit detection in this game, I actually thought it was pretty good.
Do you guys mean how Support's pellets aren't hitscan like all the other weapons?
>>123674740
>>123674926
The hit detection is fine.
>>123675021
>Do you guys mean how Support's pellets aren't hitscan like all the other weapons?
That and how few pellets there seem to be in the first place.
>>123675021
>>123675648
Hip firing with the pump shotgun and hunting shotgun makes me miss a lot when it shouldn't. I used to do it just fine in KF1.
>>123676027
I would say that has more to do with pellets doing shit for damage compared to KF1, so it feels like you're not hitting them sometimes.
I've not thought to myself "wow the hit detection sucks", more like "wow the shotguns fucking suck".
>>123676027
>>123678138
Isn't there damage drop off so the pellets are more like pillows at range?
>>123678406
There's no damage drop off. The only thing that reduces a pellets damage is penetrating a zed.
>>123679120
This is pretty surprising to hear, right next to that "sirens metal can reflect bullets"
>>123681993
Fuck you. I can't unsee this.
>>123683060
Unsee what?
>>123684146
>>123681993
>wave 1/4
>remaining zeds
>3
>2
>1
>0
>BOSS
>0
>>123684146
Recovery animations getting interrupted
>>123684542
>STATS DISABLED!!!
Probably playing the map in the SDK.
>>123684146
I didn't notice until now that the deagle webm is showing off the body lamp.
>>123631484
he didn't call shit, all he did was complain about the fact that levels were gonna reset.
>>123689694
He also complained about the lack of content and variety in the game
4 perks, 3 maps, 1 boss
and custom maps were just getting started so there was only the 3 TWI maps that were actually playable.
6 perks, 6 maps, 1 boss isn't much progress7 perks, 8 maps, 2 bosses and micro-transactions, gotta love the FREE CONTENT TWI are giving us :^)
>>123690717
we shouldn't have bought the game at early access ill give him that.
the rest of his rant was just dissing the community and resetting levels on pee vee ee game.
>>123631484
I wonder if this ugly son of a bitch ever came here?
Hey guys what is this "nuke"for demo I keep hearing? I know it's the name for one of their weapons but what is it? The Rpg?
>>123644342
>MFW Microwave gun is pretty much required to kill scrakes super easily
Sometimes I think it would of been best to not have certain zeds have overall type resistance and let the weapons speak for themselves.
I like the idea that certain spots on zeds deal less damage then others so aim for certain classes is encouraged but maybe the weapons should have default damage on zeds.
>>123693047
Nuke is one of the skills you get at level 25, it turns any of your explosives that goes off during Zed Time into a Nuke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM80FZgDbAg
>>123684146
This one is not as bad as the revolvers
>>123693342
Oh wow only 7 more levels to go for me then.
>>123693743
It's gonna get nerfed into the ground next update, probably this week or the next so better hurry up bud
>>123693743
25 lvl demo is the worst class to play
>get RPG
>wait for zed time
>shoot
>repeat ad nauseam
>>123694049
>RPG
>Not just stacking C4 at the most crowded choke point and watching the dosh rain
I really hope Demo gets a nice buff this update or I'll kill someone
>>123694049
>get zwei
>right click
>repeat ad nauseam
>>123694625
don't forget stab
>>123694491
>not setting up your C4s in two places at a time so once you get zed time you can clear out two areas at once
>>123661390
>v1013 Support
With an AA12 you're somewhat useful.
Without an AA12 you're almost worthless.
>84%
>>123648201
Pulverizer's bash could knock down a SC, though I forget if certain perks (Parry or block) are required,
if those perks are necessary, then the zerk must parry first.
If not, a bash to the face should suffice, since this is how i remembered it being done.
>>123684770
It might just be a zed time thing.I hope
>killing floor thread on /v/ 10x more active than killing floor general
>>123700501
no, it's not. this happened in kf1 as well. it's just more noticeable in zed time.
>>123700669
With a 100 times more shitposting I assume?
Zerker: A bizarre melee/projectile type class that specializes in stumbling zeds, The zerker can save a teammates life from that fleshpound or scrake about to deal the final blow to a teammate. Weapons weak towards zed armor but aiming towards zed armor increases stumble chances. Can also cause moderate knock downs.
Support: A class that packs damage but with a low ammo count, Shots penetrate zed armor and zeds themselves. At a close range aim for the head, at a distance aim for the center of zeds bodies to maximize damage output. decent stumble ability
Commando: A class that can focus on single shot/full auto headshots or body shots. Considered the all around class in the sense it can deal constant damage on a target or take its time to aim for the head for greater damage with multiple shots and keep up fire to take out multiple zed crowds. Weapons weak towards zed armor.
Medic: The healing class that specializes more on keeping team mates healed and armored up. Can deal solid body damage and headshot damage. Has the ability to sedate zeds once with heal darts. The bigger a zed is the more darts it takes to sedate them. weapons weak towards zed armor.
Firebug: A class that focuses more on constant damage output and clearing weaker zeds rather then big zeds. Weapons do not specialize in dealing headshot damage so aim for the zeds body. Firebug specializes in causing panic in zeds. Making heavy zeds to cause damage towards themselves and other zeds around them (Fleshpound smashing itself and others around it trying to put out the flames, Scrakes swinging its chainsaw in a panic)
Demo: A class that has low ammo and low fire speeds but deals massive damage towards zeds in groups and alone. Weapons do not specialize in headshots so aim for a group of zeds feet to maximize explosive radius to clear groups or aim for the body to maximize the damage output towards one certain zed and some zeds around it. Also has decent stumble and knockdown abilities.
Need I go on?
Don't forget to vote for your favorite custom maps for the official TWI map making contest phase 1.
http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons
>>123700429
Pulv is very strange. I've never done extensive testing on it but the explosive right click feels bugged. It doesn't knock down Zeds even when you hit the correct spot, especially online. But if you switch to an empty Pulv, it works all of a sudden.
>>123647545
>While less effective than against Scrakes, the Med Assault Rifle remains effective when fired at the head. However, your focus should probably be on healing.
Indeed, but ALL medic weapons can stumble SC when shooting at their feet.
There is a 3 second cool down between, but you could potentially kite SC's using this technique.
Same apply for FP, but the cooldown is 12 seconds.
>>123705309
Explosive ammo for the pulv has been bugged since the opt-in beta, just use an empty pulv instead and waste ammo on teammates or large crowds of trash.
>>123707458
poor scrake
Are the young Briar and Masterson supposed to be the classic ones when they were younger or their children? It's kind of dumb to have them both in the game at once while having all the other old characters age.
They could easily change it to imply that those are their kids since the characters just use last names and nothing more. I'm not sure why they didn't just use other characters from KF1 to have classic skins for though...
>TFW no romantic comedy comic about one of the horizone employee cloners made a female zed that falls in love with him
>She gets jealous over other woman scientists in the biolabs who keep trying to seduce the guy but his love is science
>>123715236
>the outbreak is started by a jealous she-zed
>>123681993
Ah, so cute, they all march in time, like an identical little marching band :3
>>123715697
That actually sounds kind of like a cool idea.
>>123715236
porn when?
see you guys in mid January
>>123702623
All these maps are shit
Which one do I vote for?
>>123725074
well you can vote for pika's map if you want to support him I guess.
Although knowing him he would rather you vote for the map you enjoy most rather then for the one he made because you know he made it.
>>123702623
>LondonWinter
holy fuck will this guy ever fuck off with his shitty london map? what the hell is next, London420GanjaFarm?
>>123693519
It's fucking beautiful is what it is.
>>123725835
It's a shit map yeah, but not only that. He's been shoving this piece of crap into every contest avaible. Instead of doing, you know, a _new_ map?
>>123726578
He's salty af from 4th place in Gamebanana contest,
He'll probably kill himself if he doesn't win using his garbage ass maps in the grindhouse contest.
>>123726578
>>123725835
What's wrong with that London remake? It's pretty much the London from KF1, but with more areas.
Last I played there were only 4 perks. Everything has been reset to 0.
What should I play as how how do I play as them?
>>123729808
You should not play until the new patch comes out so that you can just get accustomed to the changes and new perks.
>>123730115
But I've exhausted all my options for video games and are left with only Killing Floor 2 as the only game I have the will to play.
Well, and some Castlevanias, but only when I'm not at home or pooping.
>>123729808
Wait until the new patch, your perks will reset to 0 anyway so just wait.
>>123731715
Don't trick the poor anon, his perks will be fine
>>123731715
Well what the patch does come out, what should I play?
And how should I play them?
Why aren't you playing TERA with your favorite /kfg/??
>>123732123
Everyone will be gunslinger for a while.
T b h f a m just join servers on normal difficulty and play a full game (or until your team loses) once per perk and decide then.
Upgrade your gun whenever you can so you can get the feel of each weapon for at least one wave, then pick&choose later.
>>123732728
why can't I be an elin gunner dammit
>>123732728
No Femani porn to bring me back.
collapsing
>>123732728
ur perty
THE UPDATE WILL BE OUT BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK
SO IT IS WRITTEN
SO IT SHALL BE
>Evacuation point
>hard b/c pubs are bad
>playing demo
>another guy is playing demo too
>we both have the grenade supplier perk
>"hey guys remember press E on me for a free nade each round"
>he goes "oh yeah you wanna get some ammo from me?"
>"oh I already did bro"
>"sweet, you got a JO crystal bro?"
>wut
>"we can charge our JO crystals together bro"
I laughed really hard when I remembered what that was.
Can you still cheat perks up?
Also why the fuck is matchaking so shit today I've been constantly getting either shitters at wave 5 or boss wave games only when I use it
>start new game with 5 randoms
>wave 6 ish
>look at scoreboard
>commando, lv 25, is at the bottom
>lv 2 medic is ahead of him
>get to Hans
>he fucks around running nowhere while the rest of us die but get him to last phase
>dumbass commando just kind of waits out in the open with no cover
>hans starts shooting at him from like a mile away
>takes the commando like 15 seconds to see where the shooting is coming from
>he backpedals
>literally holds down S
>throws all 5 of his grenades like 1/4 the distance between him and Hans
>they explode, accomplishing nothing
>just holds down S and sprays
>dies to gas grenades before Hans can even reach him
FUCKING CHEAT ENGINE
>>123738498
>using matchmaking
for what purpose
>>123738941
no friends
>>123738330
>can only carry hard
>pubs are the bad ones
Holy shit anon
>>123738795
pubs amirite?
>>123739236
what?
>>123739639
There's so many things wrong with this
>>123739639
I'm more aiming at people who use cheat engine to hit lv 25 and it's obvious as hell they boosted.
>>123738941
Use the server browser negroid
>1500 in-game
Damn this must be like a three month record.
Also, what's the plan for when Patty comes out?
Are we just gonna jump into nothing but HOE initially and figure it out from there?
>>123740835
Dump whatever will be overpowered in the next update into him until he dies.
I do appreciate the female form, I truly do.
However, not in the mold with which Ana was cast.
When are we getting more banging Ms KFs?
I reckon Mrs Foster and Ash Harding are easy bets.
>>123742918
There's always the Stalker.
>>123742918
>wanting Harding in
>wanting generic military woman when we could possibly more interesting females in
Mrs Foster isn't much better either, honestly
>>123754772
Both will be returning eventually and you're going to be FUCKING PLEASED about it.
>>123756514
y-yes master
I could accept Supports extra carrying capacity not being passive anymore, its alright as a skill but 5 just doesn't feel enough, though its better than nothing.
I could understand grenades not being bumped up in how much you carry anymore, that seems like a thing suited for demo anyway and 11 was just over the top, as nice as it was back in kf1.
I could put up with welding being a lot less effective, its not as overpowered as it was before and being a one timer, makes you think when to weld a door up and give a team a breather rather than just one while area denial. Plus I was never one for it anyway.
I could deal with ammo being a bit less in quantity for you and up in price, because if you're good, you can easily use your penetration and power to get through crowds and have some still in the back.
Oh wait.
Support has no power anymore, the one main thing to at least keep it useful in this game, actually fighting zeds as main gameplay, you've made the classes too soft in damage. Not only have you taken versatility, a.k.a ways to support like welding doors or extra carrying to help pick up dead teammates weapons, you've ruined the damage bonus too to give the team extra firepower on crowds or big guys getting up close. Take one or the other, not both, otherwise you're making the term "support" mean nothing.
>bought the game yesterday to play with friends
Holy shit this general is dead.
II get perk xp regardless of which perk I am currently if I for exemple heal people right?
How many classes were there in kf1?
>Get Rocket League a few days ago
>Already seen more communication from devs in that game over those few days than what Tripwire has done in months
I wanna say I'm surprised but I'm not.
>>123763342
There were 7, we've got all of the originals, barring Sharpshooter (who used pistols and rifles) and coming up is Gunslinger, which is essentially the half of Sharpshooter which uses pistols,and is now becoming its own class.
>>123763342
Oh and in regards to the first question, if you use the weapon for said perk or do a certain action like heal with a syringe, you'll get xp for that. If you want to get faster levels, tag an enemy with bullets and you'll be rewarded more xp.
>>123702623
I will vote on my friends map and for dancefloor, was a very fun and enjoyable map.
>>123770376
Drunk kf2 with /kfg/ when?
>>123770809
Some time in December when christmas closes in
>>123770809
Not in the next week or so, I hope. I'm trying to convince myself I'm not starting to become an alcoholic.
>>123770809
Hopefully in 2 weeks or so like >>123774587
Not because of fear of alcoholism, but i've got a new computer to get sorted and i'm no good on a laptop
>>123738795
While I do despise cheat engine tripwire should be glad players are able analyze the higher ranked perks and see if they are balanced or not.
>>123739639
I'm still trying to process what just happened, what a clusterfuck
>>123739639
Is that a fucking AR-15 he pulls out? What the literal fuck?
>>123778927
Thats what I thought too, now I know my eyes aren't deceiving me
>>123760581
Quiet, cakeboy
Let's have some creative fun.
Design a zed/boss/player character.
Draw a picture of them or write about them or something.
>>123783816
I'm not going to draw anything, but I think a survivalist character would be nice.
Basically he went on a month (or longer) trip with just his backpack into some woods, and while he was there the entire zed breakout happened. Now that he's back he's slightly confused about what's going on and sees the zeds as just a slightly harder prey than what he would usually huntWITH HIS BARE HANDS.
Captcha asked me for trees too.
>>123783816
Fat guy comic relief, have him be Belgium too.
>>123783816
A giant spider boss that throws crawlers at you and is agile as fuck making him hard to hit. there could be more to this but thats all I got
>>123783816
New zed: Glider
Move relatively fast while in air and have bat like arms with razor talons as hands, swoop down quickly in an aerial strike, when on the floor it will try to jump up and strike back down in the same gliding fashion, when grounded it will be slower and when close to you, will try and slap you but will be relatively weaker compared to if it was doing an air attack.
Think a hit and run type of zed, like a (slightly weaker) gorefast of the skies.
Why do Scrakes feel more intimidating and stronger than Fleshpounds?
>>123641186
The problem with that what if is the fact that the darts home in and can be blocked by teammates now. As a medic, I'm not always going to be able to accurately hit you in the midst of everything.
Yeah free armor is broken as fuck so here's how we balance it out: During actual wave time, Medics can only heal up to 50% max armor on any single person whether they have full hp or not. During trader time, medic can give full free armor. This way gives a little leeway for the medic in case a zed blocks the syringe/syringe homes in on someone else, teammate steps in the way, etc. and the person's not completely shit outta luck if a fleshpound decides to fuck them up before the medic's syringe can get to them.
>>123798563
Because FPs get BTFO'd with easy nade spam/explosives.
Scrakes actually take aim to the head.
>>123798923
Thats a good enough reason as any, also in terms of design they just make the scrake go full hulk mode when he was originally scrawny, so much that he looks stronger than FP too.
>>123798563
He's kind of supposed to be mor eintimidating. Scrake requires you to make him mad, FP just goes insane. FP's just supposed to look like a bulldozer.
>>123798563
scrakes don't stop raging once they do, FPs stop raging once they hit someone unless it's the last few zeds in the wave
I'm almost done downloading killing floor 2, is there anything I should know about the game/before i play in pubs so I'm not a total faggot?
>>123803457
shoot at things still they die
Abandon All?
Or Abandon All v3?
>>123803457
stick together
don't die
>>123803457
TAKE THIS AND STAY DOWN
>>123803457
don't shoot at the guys with chainsaws unless everyone else is ready
>>123803457
STAY OUT OF SUICIDAL until you have a Level 10 perk.
STAY OUT OF HOE until you have a Level 20 perk.
How do you try out the new akimbo thingy ?
>>123803457
Zeds that lost their head will bleed out on their own. Quick melee will block enemy attacks if timed right. The larger zeds have a ragemode, don't poke them if you don't plan on killing them.
Is there any point in having commando/support on HOE when every other perk kills zeds and big zeds 10x faster?
Sometimes I want to kick these people but then I feel bad because they probably just want to play a perk other than the typical ones everybody else uses but these guys feel useless in comparison. I blame Tripwire for making support and mando so shit.
>>123804287
>suicidal at lvl 10
Rev up that votekick retard.
>>123803457
Money here
Get some proper gear.
>>123804495
>Not wanting zed time extensions
Pathetic.
>>123804495
Level 10 is the bare minimum required.
Level 15 is preferable, but Level 10 is the bare minimum.
>>123805143
Nope, if you're lvl 10 you're useless garbage and would get kicked by any server with competent players.
How's the balance in this game?
Why isn't there an option to remove the desaturation during zed-time?
It seems like such a no-brainer for a feature that not everyone would like and wasn't present in KF1, especially when it adds a bunch of bloom rape.
>>123805235
not good
we'll find out if tripwire has learned anything in this next update
>>123804495
>>123804739
Oh, and also, the point of the Commando is that he can deal with any zed bar the large ones from a safe distance.
Put a Commando to cover a flank in which he has space, and nothing will get through or even get close provided he's good. He doesn't need a Medic healing him constantly like a Berserker does (because on HoE it is a guarantee he's going to take small amounts of damage from time to time which can easily add up if a Medic isn't on him), and he's not a Firebug that needs to get close and can't deal with Husks or Sirens (without wasting MW gun ammo which is quite valuable on HoE, and which needs to take damage from Sirens to kill them most of the time too). Those two perks being the best at killing zeds (aside from nuke Demo which is a whole different story) are better off covering where zeds primarily come from and are more bound to be disorganized or getting aggroed all over the place, basically where a Commando loses effectiveness. Instead, Commando goes on the flank, where the Medic doesn't need to pay attention to and can focus on one part of the battle, and where the Commando doesn't get much traffic and everything aggroes on him, and he can cover everything, allowing the rest of the team to focus on one part just as well. Large zeds are the Commando's only problems, but any perk is going to need help from the team to down a large zed on HoE anyway, so it makes no difference.
Of course, this all means that if you are cheesing a HoE game in a corner with a Zerker wall, then Commando IS useless, but if you need to do that with an organized team, you are a shitter.
Long awaited subway map.
Pre-release version is up.
http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-descent
http://media.tripwirecdn.com/111315/deserteagle.webm
How can anyone defend this eye-rape during zed time?
>>123805807
You made your point with the extended zed time, forgot about that. He clearly has his uses. Support on the other hand just doesn't have enough ammunition and his weapons cost way too much money for me to consider him worthwhile.
>>123806040
turning off bloom helps a lot with that, it's a shitty effect in general anyway
>>123806079
Support needs what made it great at the very start: gaining +2% extra shotgun damage per level, not 1%
If you're going to have a shotgun to the face, the damage should be lethal but it isn't, it takes more effort to take down a scrake than it deserves to.
Support should be strong and beefy, especially considering you're up front with the zerk, but your main thing is to demolish crowds in a single shot and blast scrakes/fps to make his life easier.
Of course to compensate, be a bit slower than everyone else in movement and reloadingunless tactical reload, so you have to fall back for your own breather and step up when something massive happens. Be good support to the team when positioned, but have that flaw when singled out where it wont be an easy ride due to the slight sluggishness.
Also buff those skills.
>>123805814
Might want to add a blocking volume where this wall is, friendo.
>>123808786
On top of this security camera, too.
>>123808786
Why?
>>123808982
Oh yeah you can throw dosh up there I guess. I'll change that for the B1 release thanks.
>>123809007
Obviously so that people don't just jump onto it and ruin the match by bugging out the AI.
>>123809467
You can jump onto it?
>>123809612
If you have collision for the camera turned off then no one can get up there anyways.
Just set it to no_collision or block_weapons so that blood still can get on it.
>>123809612
DBS alt fire jumping
Fixes coming right up, thanks guys.
Ok, added blocking volumes.
I also tweaked the respawn rate from 2.5 to 3s because people say they get overwhelmed too easily.
ded game ded general
>Grind map (Normal zed spawns in a boxed room)
>http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635
>REMINDER: Boost Maps are no longer functional. Boosters must use Cheat Engine.
Why keep it in the op then?
What was the sharpshooter's role in kf1?
>>123815268
Old boost maps used Actor Factories to spawn hundreds of copies of Hans with 1 hp for easy xp gain.
The ones that work now don't use those.
>>123815268
Because that's a grind map
there is no edited zeds (such as 1HP Hans, which is a booster map)
this map just spawns regular zeds in a box that you grind on
>>123815380
kill the big guys
>>123815380
Inverse that of commando. Kill the big ones from afar before they even reach the team. Only problem was Sharp had pistols and basically excelled at killing trash nearby too.
>>123803457
LISTEN UP FAIRYBOY
DON'T LET THERE BE ANY BIG CHAINSAW GUYS OR BIG GLOWING GUYS IN THE LAST 5 ENEMIES LEFT
THEY'LL GO INTO A LAST STAND FRENZY AND SEXUALLY ASSAULT YOU
How do I Firebug?
>>123820421
you click on thingstill they die
>>123815380
Use pistols for small zeds
Use big guns for big zeds to one-shot them
Get headshots
Sharpshooter in KF2 will probably be the big one-shot guns class, starting with lever rifle and being completely fucked if he's surrounded. Gunslinger looks like it'll be the other aspect of sharpshooter, witht he pistols and headshots for clearing out small zeds.
>>123820694
I feel like GS is gonna be the mix of SS and Commando. Heavy DPS to take down the big guys if he can aim at heads well, and still have some trash clearing ability.
>>123820667
But what should I be clicking on them with?
And how should I be clicking on them?
>>123822292
with the left click on your mouse you dumbdumb
>>123805814
Medium kek
>>123822292
Treat the flamethrowers and the microwave gun as semi auto weapons. This allows you the most damage per ammo consumption, especially with the microwave gun.
Some people like to pop heads of trash with the caulk n burn, but instead I aim near the feet to create ground fire underneath zeds, resulting in bonus damage. It's especially useful in a door chokepoint.
The optimal loadout is microwave + caulk n burn, just keep the one you start with until you get $1500 for the microwave gun. The flamethrower lacks the damage needed for large zeds, and the trench gun just isn't that good at all.
The microwave gun does radiation damage, and the two zeds that are weak to this damage type are scrakes and Hans. Once you unlock the double splash damage perk at level 20, the splash damage of the microwave beam does twice as much damage as the direct hit from the beam. This means you will have to tap-fire the microwave gun near the enemy's feet. Use the alt fire to push big zeds away from you if they get too close, you're very squishy with only 100 hp.
update when
>>123825521
>just keep the one you start with until you get $1500 for the microwave gun
Not quite in my opinion. Get the Flamethrower as soon as you can afford it and if it isn't yet a wave with large zeds (you can even afford to use the Flamethrower for the first wave of Scrakes where you get 2 of them max if you have a good Zerker). You will kill zeds a hell of a lot more easily, making the investment easily worth it and making you more capable of contributing money to the team even with your MW gun purchase once it happens.
rip nuke
>>123825521
Is the Caulk n' Burn really that good? I haven't found it to be worth shit. Tap fire doesn't do enough damage, two taps barely does enough, and then I have to reload the damn thing.
I've been finding the Trench Gun to be preforming much better than it and it lets me deal with Husks and Sirens fairly well. Husks actually take damage from it and I can decapitate them in as little as one shot while Sirens get stunned pretty easily, letting me close in for a solid headshot followup.
Until I hit 20, how should I be using the Microwave Gun vs. big guys? Aim for the head and mag dump with secondary peppered in for breathing room? Or should I /never/ 'spray' and only ever tap fire?
Difficulty above HOE when?
>>123831946
>Wanting SC/FP to be an even bigger damage sponge
no thank you
>>123831946
make a mutator for HOE then.
JESUS CHRIST WHY IS THE NAILGUN SO FUCKING STRONG JESUS CHRIST
>>123831946
hard should actually be hard, but it isn't. Most games remove the name "easy" difficulty so that players don't feel bad for playing the lowest difficulty and being insulted for having to do so. The original killing floor had easy as well as hell on earth, so the hell on earth we have now is effectively insane from the old game.
That being said, I still feel that HoE should be extremely difficult for a group of 6 players who are experience, working together a lot, and are all level 25. As it stands now it's piss easy and that is infuriating.
At both the low level and the high level, the game is terribly imbalanced in terms of perk power and zed power. A good example of this is how the large zeds are just bullet sponges that take forever to die. A good chunk of a fleshpound's health would be removed in HoE in the first Kf, now the RPG, even level 25, takes 7-8 shots. This bullet sponge feeling is also reinforced by the fact that the fleshpounds are a lot chunkier and do less damage, making them feel like big balls of meat that charge you but not really hurt you. In the first killing floor, the fleshpounds were scary because of how fucking tall they were and their metallic voice. They did this weird quick shuffle animation which looked unnerving and really added to the idea that "oh fuck I better shoot this guy before he uses me to make meatloaf"
Ammo is limited in KF2 compared to KF1, simply because of the bullet sponge factor. However, berzerker is stronger than ever and medics can easily repair armor to the point where no one needs to buy armor anymore. So objectively the best line up is two medics and two berzerkers and guard one position. Berzerkes kill both trash and big zeds, and medic grenades kill trash quickly. A single goddam RPG should bring a fleshpound low, even on HOE. The fleshpounds should kill in one hit if you don't have armor like in KF1
part two incoming
I feel like you guys are just overexaggerating how easy the difficulties are.
I mean, obviously with a super coordinated team, HoE is gonna be a cakewalk. But as a level 25, playing in pubs can be a pain in the ass, even on Hard.
>>123836492
part two
A lot of the other perks are very different from their KF1 counterparts and have lost a lot of what made them require skill in the first place. Demos can now ignore sirens and ignore basic trash, when in KF1 they had to carefully manage their ammo but still do some trash clearing, as well as fight the siren and be careful to not fuck up. Now he can leave the trash to other perks that do it way better and ignore sirens, so we have a pretty fucking useless class on our hands that feels underwhelming to play. Firebug, who was previously amazing at killing trash but feared big zeds, does not have a lot of ammo for trash but fucks scrakes over. carefully tap your fire and you do double damage, clearing trash easily and taking out scrakes with ease, even on HoE
Support's ammo was nerfed and his best gun was nerfed, so he's useless as shit now . Commando lacks anything worthwhile.
Even hans, the new boss, is pretty shitty. The patriarch from the first game would heal himself 3 times, but you could stop his healing by shooting him and moving from your position. You had to weight the costs of losing your position benefits with preventing him from healing, a simple yet well done game design. For hans, he has explosive resistance and bullet resistance but no microwave resistance. Not to mention you can't hurt him unless he heals someone, and then you can start shooting him again. Basically get a berserker and two medics, 3 firebugs to kill him. Did I mention you usually have dosh enough to buy several microwave guns each at the end of HoE?
You end up kiting the fucking asshole which fucking sucks and isn't fun, just everything about this game is a complete fuck up besides performance and the sound design
Part 3 coming.
>>123836973
The game should be balanced around 6 competent experience fully leveled players for HoE
Hoe in its current state is easy for that demographic when it should be hard, and insane should be normal.
>>123837220
On with my rant:
all of this shit that is going on is really appalling to me, for tripwire brags and boasts about their awesome game design and how fucking smart they are for simply thinking "lel lets just not fuck it the game formula" and go on to brag about not ruining the game to multiple game reviewers and gaming sites
WHEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY FUCKING DID. THEY BUTCHERED THE GAMEPLAY FROM KF1 THAT TOOK YEARS TO FINE TUNE INTO PERFECTION.
It's just so retarded and I'm so angry that they had the gall to add in microtransactions while their quagmire of a game rots like a fucking corpse
>>123837508
>The game should be balanced around 6 competent experience fully leveled players for HoE
elitist fag
>>123805807
Commando could handle a scrake solo pretty easily if he had to but if there is trash around him it could be difficult.
>>123837508
They split up 6 perks in a 6 player coop game, into 10 perks.
GS stole SS's Pistols
MA stole Berserker Melees
SWAT stole Medic's SMGs
They also introduced the Skill trees instead of only passives so it feels like you have a choice when in reality you only stick with 1 certain set of skills for each class the whole game anyways.
Like with Support, choosing between more weight and the measly 10% damage boost when he should have both as passive's and get skills that actually make you think.
Example: Repairing doors to be reused and re-welded or Welding armor on teammates.
>>123838292
*7 perks in a 6 player coop game
was thinking of KF2 because there's only 6 perks still.FUCK YOU TWI UPDATE THE GAME ALREADY
Does anyone have this issue?
When a pissed off scrake is on me and I use the microwave gun secondary, it DOES knock him back but he instantly teleports back to where he was and continues molesting me, even after like 6 secondary fires he's still on top of me.
>>123839049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvfFhJWo57o
>>123839049
Hans and Fleshpounds do this too
>>123831946
>every zed runs
>no zed time at all
>scrakes rage automatically if you walk within a certain range of them
>clots don't take extra damage from headshots
>bashes don't knock off enemies that grab you
What else?
>>123839804
>Disable all zed stumbles/knockdowns.
would be insane
>>123830595
It's not that the caulk n burn is that good, it's just that there's no better alternative. When I'm holding down a point with the team, there's usually someone else present to take care of anything big that doesn't survive past the doorway, like the husks and sirens.
In addition, once you get to 15 and have the zed shrapnel skill, it changes everything. Entire groups of zeds will explode at once just from burning a crawler. I didn't care for the caulk n burn either until I got that skill.
As for using the microwave gun, you can just tap fire the big zeds anywhere you want, you can even do it on the floor next to them since they both will do the same damage without the perk. You shouldn't ever be holding down the fire button, just spam your left mouse button.
