secksy adversary edition 2: heretic nerfaloo
Last thread that wasn't fucked up by OP: >>123194594
The thread after that: >>123370610
And the last thread: >>123372472
The faggot forgot to add those.
>ARG Patch
Added The Keeper (unlocked by donating 1000 coins to the greed machine) and new items:
Keeper now holds... a single fucking penny
Rib of Greed
Keeper's Store Key
Karma
Sticky Nickels
Deep Pockets
And more co-op babies, yay.
>Nerfwatch patch
Stopwatch is now only on-hit (still special)
Punching bag can die and has a long respawn time.
Kamikaze is now shit again.
Mega blast only gains 3 charges from batteries.
Alt+F4 exploit fixed.
>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/
FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki
>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
Pretty much a bullet sponge though, so have fun with that.
>How to unlock The Lost?
1. Unlock Missing Poster.
2. Die holding Missing Poster in Sacrifice Room.
3. Congratulations, you have now unlocked The Lost in a fraction of the time of everyone else.
>How to unlock The Keeper?
Donate 1000 coins to the greed machine.
If you're not up for autistic level of grinding, use cheat engine;
1. First scan for the value you have in the greed machine.
2. If only one result, change it to 999.
3. If not, donate one coin and try again.
4. Repeat step 3 until it works.
>The Keeper has no sprite and dies instantly!
Remove players.xml from your resources folder.
first for cum
lmao nice game
>>123578474
Drop the magnet faggot
post qt demons
i want to protect lilith
>>123579357
Isn't the story behind Lilith that in the end, her own spawns consumed her when they no longer needed her?
>>123579652
Damn.
>>123579652
why
>>123580473
Why what? Just walk around the pedestal. They have minor give. Or leave the room and reenter. Or blow up the rocks.
>>123580473
Drop the trinket and pick it up, while in the animation of picking it up go across the pedestal.
>>123580473
Bob's Brain is in the boss item pool?
>>123580835
Chaos, nigga
why is judas literally the only fun character to play?
>>123581418
>le judas is shit with belial nerf meme
>>123581418
Literally Eden
>>123581418
I like all characters. Maybe Lazarus could use some improvements. Give him Suicide King or something instead of some shitty Tears Down pill
guess who's a retard and didn't know My Reflection gutted your range
>>123581418
Because Judas came from a time where Edmund knew what risk-reward was
>The next few characters are practically Judas clones
>Eve is Whore Judas
>Samson was shit Judas
>Lazarus is Maggy Judas
>Azazel is OP Judas
>>123582075
999 more coins to the greed machine and Lazarus starts with Suicide King.
>continuum
>ipecac
>tractor beam
>as the lost
It's like Onan's streak on steroids.
>>123582218
Alright Tyrone fuck off go watch Spongebob
>>123582218
>next expansion
>Finally adds a unified final area
>It's just labelled Soul
>You face an unnamed entity similar to God.
>Upon death, he spawns a Donation Machine, except it's pure white.
>Has all the character's "Godly" unlocks.
>>123582628
>normal mode donation and hard mode donation rewards are separate
>normal mode items are shit and hard mode is coop babies
>>123582075
i'd honestly just want laz reworked
the whole "dying to become a worse eve" thing is lame
if i wanted to be strong early, i'd play samson
if i wanted to be a glass cannon, i'd play the lost
both? i'd play eve or judas
>>123582628
>all the "Godly" unlocks are coop babies
>>123582850
>new item
>Solo-Op
Every time your Co-Op partner loses a baby, you gain that baby as a follower.
>Same rarity as Brimstone
reminder that the sole reason for the existence of co-op babies is so Ed's wife can play multiplayer with him
Has anyone actually seen blank rune? I've done dozens of breaking runs and watched a lot of afterbirth content on twitch and such and haven't actually seen it in game. Is it just statistic being funny or is it actually bugged out? Is the rune named blank rune or does it assume the name of the effect it will give (thus just decreasing the rarity of runes)?
>>123580691
This guy.
>>123575147
>just turns into a lazy worm after eating three other worms
pfft
>>123579250
you first
Uhh, I think female announcer just said "emergency contact" when I used it. What? There's a female announcer?
>>123582218
Isaac is fine, give Maggy Immaculate conception and purity, Cain is fine, Judas is fine , give blue baby petrified poop, Eve is fine, give Samson lusty blood, Azazel is fine, give Lazarus suicide king, Eden is fine (after winning a game with eden, next run automatically gives you eden's blessing), Lost is fine, Lilith is fine.Remove Keeper.
>>123584456
>after unlocking the keeper through the greed machine, a new super greed machine spawns instead
>hitting 999 coins on itdeletes the keeper from your game files and re-locks him
>hitting 1000 coins removes all coop babies
>yfw
>>123584838
So it'll be just like Nier?
>>123584373
okay I will
>>123584838
Thanks chaos.
Prove me wrong.
>>123588182
>aquaris bad early game
>>123588182
Capricorn is literally goat both end and early game.
Post yfw it's finally over.
>>123588182
Where's Scorpio?
>>123588182
>>123588673
He's also missing Libra.
>>123588392
>capricorn is literally goat
>>123588831
>Any All Stats up bad
Unless you're running perma-Soul Heart exploits it's good for pretty much all circumstances. Not as good as Magic Mush, but definitely one of the better Zodiacs
With Guppy's Paw there's literally 0 drawbacks
>>123588578
>:(
>I had fun completing both
>now it's all done and nothing more to unlock
>occasionally play keeper and lost in greed mode
>:)
>>123589162
Capricorn is portrayed as a goat you dumb donkey. That's the joke.
>>123589162
I'm assuming he's laughing at the pun. Capricorn is a sea goat.
>>123580473
>>123580473
Use high priestess and it will target you and it may destroy the rocks
>>123580473
It's funny because Bob's Brain isn't a bad item
>>123588182
How come people are ok with this blatant Homestuck reference?
>>123590851
He even has 12 soul hearts and gimpy. Literally no reason to be upset.
Is 1001% ever getting PROPERLY fixed?
is this one of those 'unavoidable damage' rooms i hear so much about, it matched the description of one pretty well but i took no damage from it
>was just a grid of bomb rocks with a normal troll bomb in the middle, that could be evaded by walking into literally any corner of the room
nah it can't possibly be this, nor any of the other explosive rooms that i've also had literally no difficulty avoiding damage in
>>123590851
only if you have pyromaniac or the host
otherwise have fun being unable to go closer than bomb radius to any enemies until it fires off
>>123591126
It'll get fixed alongside people that didn't go in the chest for Ending 17.
What do you guys play with? Keyboard or controller?
>>123590982
Probably because you need to actually know Homestuck to recognize it.
>>123591578
I played with controller because I thought keyboard would play like shit, then I found out about WASD+mouse to fire.
Still prefer controller.
>>123591476
>I took no damage from it
>it's an unavoidable damage room
I don't understand your thought process.
Scale this, cocksleeve.
>dream dlc
>Blue Womb is a developed floor with hush-themed enemies
>"??? deal" room instead of angel/devil
>Sheol has hellish themed alt-floor
>Cathedral has gothic themed alt-floor
>both Dark Room and Chest lead to 'The Void', ultimate final floor
>defeating Mega Satan does as well, but lets you fight Super Final Boss
>defeating Hush + Mega Satan in one run lets you fight Ultra Super Final Boss
>each character unlocks special tear mods from beating both Void bosses
>>123591771
His scaling was really brought down. Last thread's Lilith seed took him down in no time at all.
>>123591476
>otherwise have fun being unable to go closer than bomb radius to any enemies until it fires off
So then don't go inside that radius while the Brain is active? I don't see why this is a problem to so many people. Just a cursory amount of situational awareness prevents 99% of self inflicted BB damage.
>Brain spawns
>"Oh okay the brain is back"
>"better put my face in the enemy before i fire it off."
In the hands of someone who isn't braindead, Bob's Brain is easily Top Tier, if not God Tier.
>>123591476
Why are you acting so smug about an obviously fine room?
>>123592000
Bob's Brain isn't as bad as other make it out to be but it's far from a top tier item.
Unless you're buffing it with bomb modifiers then the damage falls off hard, and the poison damage tacked onto it is a joke at all times.
Plus it can't blow up rocks or walls even though it's stopped by them.
>>123591734
like i said, matches the descriptions i've been given of some 'unavoidable damage rooms'
maybe you people are just bad
>>123578010
When did they change the lost unlock and why? I just came on here to check the seeds and noticed it's changed.
>>123592228
ur bad gtfo bragfag
>>123591840
>>123592228
>>123591476
Anybody that isn't awful at the game can beat those rooms without taking damage.
Actual unavoidable damage rooms are rooms where a monster actually spawns on you, or situationally rooms filled with red poop that can't be crossed no damage if you have an explosive item.
As far as I know, there's no unavoidable damage trap room.
>>123591493
>Beating Hush doesn't unlock the ending
>You NEED to go in the chest
Why is he right after the Womb again? Hush could be available after you beat ??? or Lamb and that'll be just fine too. Seriously
>>123592881
I'm more pissed it doesn't unlock like the Mom's Heart endings, which you can get anyway even if you go down to Sheol/Cathedral, unlocking two at once.
It's literally impossible for me to get Ending 17 now, since the chest only appears the first time you beat the boss.
I really don't feel like trying to unlock anything as this guy.
Is there even any reason to play him?
>>123592881
muh arbitrary time limits
>No. 2
>Lucky Rock
>>123593437
empty vessel is insanely good on devil deal characters
>>123593671
>mfw shitters who don't take No. 2 because they're too dumb or deaf to notice when a bomb drops
it's literally infinite bombs if you aren't stupid
Imagine how much better the game could be if Ed didn't have a sick obsession with making sure a fifth of all the items in-game were intentionally shitty as some kind of bad joke.
>>123593671
Holy fuck it just got a lot better. Now I just need to hope for Greed.
>>123593754
Hey, guess what's infinite bombs and isn't a distraction when you're fighting the cage or any other boss with shitloads of HP?
>>123593754
i'd rather have ipecac than have to watch for ebin poo spawning under me while also fighting enemies>not fucking swimming in bombs by floor 3 anyway
>>123593926
wouldn't be too bad if you could toggle your items super-metroid style
might even make items like the wiz worth picking up for situational use.
>>123593926
I don't think he wanted to make this dlc with more content than needed to actually cashgrab the audience already. He could've done so much shit, so many new items, so many new enemies. Nothing, all we got is halfassed 'expansion'.
First floor.
>d7 nerfed
when can i have fun
>>123593754
Bullet hell bosses like hush and the new spraying fucker can restrict your movement for multiple seconds. Dropping a turd in there is guaranteed damage which with the push back can cascade into additional damage. The item is overall just a hassle from any standpoint except for breaking mechanics (infinite bombs). It's effectively placenta for extra bombs. Most people want to be in charge when they heal/release bombs/do anything in the game so they usually avoid it. It's objectively good only in greed mode where consumables have inherit value.
>>123595393
You're forgetting that as long as you keep the fire button held, you'll never shit out another bomb past the first one. It's completely feasable to go through a boss fight without using a single turd.
>>123593437
Mod in Suicide King. It makes him really fun, but mildly OP if you do it in a curse or devil room.
>>123595814
so using charge weapons is forbidden with no. 2
you know, some of the best weapons in the game
>>123596271
If you're using one of those, I really doubt you're going to have problems with a bomb spawning every few seconds.
Because of import glitch I actually have to re-do all the stuff that didn't transfer. To get 1001. Are you fucking kidding me?
Didn't get double steam sale, but I have infinite money anyway. gg
>>123597292
slow the fuck down, pal.
>>123598354
>>123598549
>do blue bomber
>womb
>it's fucking Mr. Fred
Fucking really, Edmund? You didn't want to remove this boss from this challenge?
Nah, just slap Bobby onto that to cover your ass, it's fine.
Fuck you.
Why do scaling health bosses exist, this is the worst horseshit
>>123598798
And I guess that's where it ends. Thanks, MissingNo.
>tfw died to It Lives! final bullet explosion on death when doing the Speed! challenge
>I also saw the Bible earlier and forgot it was an insta-kill
God, just fucking murder me.
>>123599242
I don't understand.
Blue Bomber is fucking easy, and Mr.Fred is like the easiest boss in the game
JLTG AXLD
fun isaac seed
>find a giant gurgling
>mfw that charge sound
>realising that the gurgling charge sound is just a sped-up clip of a girl making a 'raaar!' sound
this game shouldn't be as adorable as it is
>>123598798
hopy shit
>>123599451
Mr. Fred is immune to explosions desu senpai.
>>123599630
do gurglings even show up as bosses anymore
>>123599678
Is there any actual reason for that or is it just to be facetious
>>123599854
it's because the enemies he spawns can do explosion damage Im guessing
>>123599794
yeah, i recall getting a long boss room with about 5 or so gurglings a short while back
they probably just have a really low chance compared to all the other bosses, especially some of the shittier new ones.
>fucking ragman and little horn appearing all the time on floor 1
>>123599794
Gurglings are a rare spawn as Basement boss, yes.
>>123599630
I love the giant and tiny monsters, the sounds they make are great.
>>123600083
Little Horn isn't bad, but Ragman just has way too much HP
>>123600446
Total balance and fix mod for everything wrong with Isaac, Lamb, Rebirth, and Afterbirth, when?
>>123600083
It's on other floors, too. I don't remember the last time I got Polycephacus as a boss.
Every fucking time.
>>123600401
Plus, they have a chance to drop one makes you small/larger pills.
>>123600735
One makes you larger pills are pretty fucking useless, though.
"Guillotine is disorienting!"
Now add in Transcendence.
>>123600957
fucking why
>>123601670
Because Wiggle Worm essentially evens out my shot pattern and I had 3 Fly orbitals, so a 4th orbital would mean I can't get hit by projectiles on about 65% of all angles.
Transcendence came after and I wasn't thinking. Then Conjoined, which turned me into a bullet hell generator, so it didn't matter.Have a heart challenge.
>>123600957
is there anything positive about guillotine?
>Lilith + Ipecac
Thank fuck I picked up 9 lives, I died to UG 4 times because of him dropping a coin right in front of me
>>123602031
poor man's meatboy
>>123602132
lilith+ipecac is one of the most hilarious things i've used
so much boom
>>123602256
Oh, it was fun as fuck, but I didn't have pyromaniac or Host Hat so I was taking a /lot/ of dumb damage
It didn't help I had charge baby giving me battery drops and getting more explosions on the field
>>123602031
>strong orbital, like cube of meat
>very large
>damage up
>tears up
>every head you have boosts tears and damage, so box of friends also acts as a stat booster
It takes some practice, but it's a good item.
>>123602132
Lilith+Dr. Fetus is just as bad. I ended up killing myself in boss rush because of bomb blowback. Shit sucks. Wish I found host hat or I wouldn't have grabbed fetus
>Fighting ultra greed
>Not doing that much damage so like a retard i use the D4
>DUNCE CAP ANTI GRAV TEARS
>Want to beat Mega Satan with Isaac
>5 runs in a row I beat Chest/Dark Room, but no angel rooms
>Finally get the key pieces in a run
>Die to It Lives
That's my kinda luck right there.
>I Rule challenge
;_;
>>123607260
literally how
>>123607458
I'm shit
>gotten floor 1 Dr. Fetus + 99 Bombs twice today
>still no Brimstone
Can we please get a mod that purges Curse of the Maze and Curse of the Blind
>>123600957
How you keep your items on the side of the screen fa m
>>123609838
>Curse of the Maze
But it can open doors for free.
>Curse of the Blind
Get good?
Would you watch me if i streamed /boig/?
>>123609879
>dodging filter
You filthy filthy casual.
It's in options.
>>123610002
No, who are you?
>>123610050
nobody
It's finally over. I'm free.;_;
>having a good Lilith run
>bumbo, rotten baby, demon baby
>accidentally pick up missingno because I thought it was GB bug
>>123609915
What the fuck is there to get good about not being able to see shit items?
5/10 bait, made me reply.
>>123611709
Just not be the faggot who resets if he picks soy milk/cursed eye on basement, see it as a challenge.
>>123612047
soy milk and cursed eye are bad items and you are not a good player for picking them up
>>123591126
Well nevermind I just rolled back to a previous savefile and got it there. Fucking Edmund jesus fuck.
I heard a streamer complaining that the characters aren't different enough now.
How would you change the characters up to make them more unique?
Judas could have a constant half tear rate double damage thing going on.
>>123612150
>you are not a good player for picking something up when you can't see it.
Bravo.
Why are secret and super secret rooms so bad?
>>123614092
If I had a nickel for every secret room I found that was nothing but a single poo, I'd buy a better steak.
>>123612824
Hey, some people are into masochism, dont judge.
>>123614092
>>123614172
the secret rooms have never failed me
>>123614092
>the cross-shaped super secret room with nothing but a black poop surrounded by spikes
>getting the heart room as ???
>rune-filled room that generates for me with nothing but perthro and dagaz after i've already cleared out the floor
eggman pls
>>123590982
Astrology existed before the comic you know
>>123614271
you've never opened up a secret room to find it filled with one poop and spikes surrounding it?
I've found that thrice. What shit.
>>123612047
I actually like Soy Milk; not the case for CE. Also, who the fuck was talking about the basement? I don't want Guillotine or Tech 2 75% of the way into the run.
>>123614471
I've never actually seen that.
someone get me sme fucking A1 for this steak gOd DANM
>>123614471
Maybe it's to make up for the secret room with the two stone chests in it?
You can't have a nice $100 steak without some spiky shit on the side
>>123614820
Consider yourself lucky.
>>123616028
If it were a poop that always dropped a penny or a petrified poop trinket maybe. But that one in particular is always a blackpoop that does nothing.
>>123616237
Black shit stuns all mobs in room. Which for rooms with no mobs, the bulk of them, is useless.
>>123616237
There's also that one normal secret room that just has a corn poop.
Why not just slightly decrease range?
Where did the steak meme come from? Was it something the developer said?
FUCK MAMA GURDY
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DODGE THOSE SPIKES
LITERALLY SPAWNS RIGHT UNDER YOU
FUCK YOU EDMUND
>>123614471
Everytime i get that secret room it's a gold or rainbow poop
reminder
>>123617007
On the other hand, all those tears drastically increase your DPS, and Incubus ignores the charge time completely.
>>123617012
Yes it was edmund's response to data miners finding out how to unlock the lost, in an interview they said it was like "having a 100 dollar steak and eating it in one bite"
>>123617175
if everyone else hates it but he likes it, then its staying
remember kids, this is ed's game and he knows what's best for it and how we should be playing it
>>123617130
Lol look at this nerd having no flight at Womb I.
>>123616028
>>123616237
>>123616503
Guys I think I found the real variation of that room.
>>123617175
How the fuck does "don't" become "on"? Holy shit Ed.
>>123617130
You see them before they actually come up and damage you, git gud
>>123617307
Actually, it was Tyrone who said it.
Edmund just sperged out afterwards.
https://youtu.be/UJVuLvGjPOc?t=2h16m44s
>>123617546
Not if they come up right under you faggot
go kill yourself
>>123617656
They never come up right under you.
If you just stand still Mama gurdy's spikes will never hit you.
>>123617656
Literally move your character you fucking idiot
>>123617740
This is a lie. How about you actually play the game for once you shithead
>>123617754
Literally go kill yourself you fucking faggot
your mother should have swallowed you
>>123617860
Hey i'm not the one getting damaged by a fucking stationary boss that's easy as fuck, just end yourself 2bh
>>123617631
What minute? I'm not watching that fatass talking for 2 hours and 40 minutes.
>>123617307
They way they wanted people to unlock the lost was a lot of work for a pathetic reward. In Afterbirth most people never played the Lost again after getting his unlocks because he was a shit character. I'm not sure why they thought it would be a good idea.
>>123618060
2:16:44.
>>123617956
hey I'm not the one sucking edmund's micropenis
go back to reddit you autistic beta
>>123618234
hating edmund and being not fucking garbage at his game aren't mutually exclusive you fucking loser
why don't you go have another autistic shitfit in all caps LMAO
>>123618186
Much appreciated senpai.
Alright so what the fuck is Greed Mode? How do I play this?
>>123618491
You don't because it's grindy garbage. You use SAM instead.
>>123618445
>lol unavoidable damage is okay
>yes edmund i can swallow
>i love you edmund why dont you have my babies
>coop babies are literally the best thing in the universe
literally that way
>>>/r/eddit
go kill yourself
>>123618491
>pick a character
>step on the button
>fight enemies
>???
>Profit
>>123618659
It's literally the easiest avoidable damage in the fucking game.
>all that other shit
just calm down and take your autism pills
>>123618491
Pick up item, press button once, kill enemies, gather coins, buy shit, press button again, then another time if you want, proceed to next floor. Watch out for the Ancient Meatkeeper, no matter what kind of broken ass build you have, he'll always receive a fixed amount of damage.
>>123618923
>Ancient Meatkeeper, no matter what kind of broken ass build you have, he'll always receive a fixed amount of damage.
I thought there was a way around this?
>>123619027
It involves a lot bombs, which are often a limited resource in Greed Mode.
>>123618867
>stand still
>spike'd
>move
>woops theres spikes there too
How about you get your head out of your ass and your mouth out of edmund's dick. You're a fucking retard and if you don't see that, I have bad news for you.
>>>/r/eddit
is that way friendo
>>123619219
Are you really raging this hard at mama gurdy? They are literally easier than rag man.
If you aren't OP by womb 1 why even keep playing
>>123619783
Honestly, that's all she is is an "Are you overpowered" Check.
>Oh, you aren't able to kill me before I can even attack or don't have Flight? Here, have some unavoidable spikes!
>>123619783
>i restart unless i get good builds
Thanks for proving how shit you are at the game.
I bet you think Daddy Longlegs and Isaac are fair bosses too senpai
>>123620006
>isaac is an unfair fight
holy shit please be joking
it's not possible to be this bad at this game
So is it worth it to pay 11 bucks for Afterbirth?
I figured I'd wait until I unlocked Godhead but all the bonus shit is driving me insane.
Also, what are the biggest nerfs in the game so far? I know Azazel got pissed on but is anything else super glaring?
>>123620006
daddy long legs isn't that bad
now the bloat or the stain on the other hand...
>>123609915
>Implying that matters in a game where the boss rush and Hush are based on a timer
ewe gud game design
>>123620006
>>123620245
Do yourself a favor and wait until Godhead because there's more shit to unlock it.
Nerfs out the dick too, btw.
>>123620006
>he hasn't figured out how to avoid Isaac's White Feather Strikes
>>123620129
>>123620587
>>123620726
Stage two is 100% RNG in whether or not you take damage from it. There's no tell when Isaac does it, and there's no warning where it is. It's an extremely low chance it hits you, but if it does, it's unavoidable.
>>123620260
Bloat or Stain are fair fights, though. They're tricky, but if you're good enough you can consistently beat them without taking any damage without any upgrades. Daddy Longleg's leg attack has the same problem Isaac's 2nd stage light beams has though, and cannot be dodged.
>>123621032
Try being less obvious when you bait next time.
>>123621032
No matter what you do, Isaac isn't a game about taking unavoidable damage just because the RNG mechanics are sheer bullshit as is. Eventually, you're going to get hit
That's why The Lost was so poorly conceived, and The Keeper as he stands is an incompetently-designed character. These issues don't occur to tankier characters, but it's not the end of the world when a champion kills your Judas run
tl;dr the game's fucked, and difficulty or unavoidable damage shouldn't be your main concern as the creators shouldn't create glass cannon characters that just don't fit into the core mechanics
>>123621237
try being less of a retard senpai
baka
>>123621462
Are you really this mad that I saw through your bait? I'm sorry.
>get triple shot with 20/20 and conjoined
>it lowers my tear delay from 24 to 1
wat
>>123621461
It's funny, because the only RNG-based attack pre-WoTL was Mom's Heart's bomb attack. Nothing else.
Then WoTL added bosses like Daddy, Triachnid, and Conquest, along with the trainwreck that was the Isaac and ??? fights.
The game needs to go back to its roots.
Post yfw
>>123620726
if your talking about 3rd phase then yeah shit can be easily avoided, if you are talking about phase 2 you are straight up memeing
>>123621794
Probably a bug. Don't tell Edmund.
>>123622056
>>123622056
>>123622056
it's beyond over
>>123622056
>>123622248
>tfw no item that skips a room into the next one
>>123622056
>The chest had guppy's tail inside
>>123618923
>>123618674
>>123618583
Huh. For my first try that went pretty well.
Also Ultra Greed is retardedly tanky. I mean I know you can bullshit your way through everything but that shit was just stupid. How are you supposed to deal with the little fucks coming out of the doors if you don't have Homing Brimstone?
>>123622664
They don't have much health, they're only a problem if you have low tears rate.
>>123622464
>>123622248
>>123622190
>>123622225
Am I missing something? What's the joke?
>>123622664
Destroy the key coins before they open the doors.
>>123622664
By not letting them get out in the first place. If only a couple keys go through, it's doable for sure.
>>123578010
>Doing lost run on hard against hush
>Pretty sweet so far
>Die to it on a split second
>Reappear a second later
>I had forgotten I had the black cat form basement 1
>beat its sorry ass
Man this game, also how the fuck do I get good with the keeper at this point the lost seems significantly easier. Why the fuck does it take so long to clear a floor with this fucker?
>>123622034
Probably because every boss had simple programming beforehand
Either they shoot in cardinal directions, the boss is the only thing attacking you, or it spawned enemies. Everything had limited frames and animations and many bosses didn't have more than two attacks
Everything was designed so that a monkey could program it, but Edmund didn't have a monkey so he got Florian instead
Why must I suffer.
>>123622056
>>123620706
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Lost runs are hard as fuck, though. Any advice outside of just git good?
fucked my Isaac.exe with cheat engine in trying to unlock keeper. How do I unfuck it?
>>123623991
Steam > right click on BoI > Properties > Local Files > Verify integrity of game cache
>>123622056
Reroll it.
>>123624048
>implying I have it on steam
What the fuck do you think I am? Made of money?
>>123624308
Not that I would actually recommend anyone buy Afterbirth, but if you can't actually drop 6 bucks then you probably shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.
How do we fix the keeper?
It's an amazing feat to create a character so shit it makes the lost seems like a good character.
>>123624667
extra health at 10/20/30/40/etc coins
starts with money=power
>>123624667
Give him two extra health coins. Raise Tears rate a bit maybe.
>>123624862
That would actually be pretty fun and interesting for greed mode.
Might be a bit OP, but who cares.
>>123625160
Keeper's already OP in Greed Mode, though. He pretty much can't die there.
Anyone wanna buy me this game
>>123625342
Yeah, what I meant was that it could be a cool mechanic to balance out having lots of health with buying stuff.
In the end it's still stupid because of its core mechanic.
>>123599630
I love those new poop enemies, the diarrhea looking ones. Their whistle sounds cooler than the normal ones and the boss is fun to fight.
>>123624862
>>123625160
Or just starts full health and can hold 14 coin hearts. And instead of collecting coins in the first bracket, collects red hearts and can spend them at blood donation machines and dark beggars.
>>123625521
sent :)
>>123625521
It's not Xmas yet qt senpai.
>>123624667
Giving him another health coin slot would be nice.
>>123624667
What I'd personally do as a reflex fix.
>Scrap his current health system, also dump triple shot.
>He now has 0 health like the lost.
>He also starts with Money=Power and the Quarter.
>Every time he would take half a heart of damage, he loses 5 cents. Taking a full health of damage makes him lose 10 cents.
>Also, heart drops become coin drops instead of flies. Pennies more often than not, but soul and spirit hearts have a higher chance of nickels and dimes.
>If taking damage would bring Keeper's coin total below 0, he dies. He can survive at exactly 0 coins, but any damage is death.
>always get hit like 5 times fighting ultra greed
>only get hit once every time when fighting hush
how is greed easier?
>>123626096
So, Pay to Play, but without the door gimmick?
>>123626096
So how would shops work? Would there be a steam sale by default to deal with this system or...?
>>123626239
I guess. I haven't really done Pay 2 Play yet.
>>123624308
in that case fix your own problem, dickhead
>>123624667
Imo the unlocks should be different
Beat Isaac with Keeper - +1 health coin
Beat Satan with Keeper - devil deals cost 1 coin only
>>123626283
Shops would essentially be Devil Deals for Keeper.
But yeah, given more time to think about it, I'd probably have Keeper start with Steam Sale too(he's a greedy miser who knows how to spend as little on as much as possible, fits his Greed theme).
>Curse of the Labyrinth 3 times in a row
what the fuck
>>123626431
Better than 2nd-4th floor curse of the blind
2nd floor blind is already enough to R your run.
>>123626431
ez boss rush + hush
Does Bad Trip kill the Lost? Seems pretty unbelievably shitty if it does.
>>123627135
No, it becomes a full health.
