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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: https://www.dota2.com/685/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

Previous Thread: >>123270876
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Gondar's big sexy feet
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secret will never make it past second place
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Stop fucking stealing my images and copying my memes, shitstains.
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our guy
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nth for Envy.

Winner of The Frankfurt Major.
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>almost 300 days since a new hero
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>almost 300 days of shitposting
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Secret will never not be top 3
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>>123302721
new port*
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>lol gets a well balanced hero every two weeks
>we get one each year thats added to cm after 4 more years of testing
L M F A O FUCK THIS GAME
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>283 days since last hero release
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>>123302847
>WELL
>BALANCED
>IMPLYING
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>>123298954
yes it is

whatever if you dont want to add me, then dont
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>STILL no new hero
>STILL no new patch
>STILL no zeus arcana


dotards will actually defend this
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New patch when?

At least Riot has their head screwed on with a patch at least once a month

I like they have real attempts at balance instead of "Now these 20 heroes are good, 60 are situational and 20 are unpickable for the next 4 months", also no hero for the next year
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>team ooga
>me booga
>lose

everytime
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>>123303341
about 70% of the heros in dota are insta lose currently and have been for almost 2 years now. we have not had a patch where everything was viable since pre ti4
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Does /d2g/ ever add each other and play together?
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>>123303554
Why the fuck would you do that?
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>>123303554
>2015
>playing dota 2
lmao u crazy???
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>>123303554
i once played with a stack of people from d2g and it was awful. half the team fed and the other half just spouted memes on the mic the entire game. never do it anon, its a mistake
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>>123303449
Except ooga = good, booga = bad
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>>123303554

I haven't played this game in over a month, dipshit.
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>>123303554
worst idea 2015
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can od be good beyond retard bracket? any strats for playing him?
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>>123303554
join the /vg/ ingame chat channel if you want do do that, theres often memestacks
there used to be inhouses hosted by waifubot with barney lust etc but idk if they exist anymore
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Hey guys, im back with a new list

The top five WORST memes of current d2g


1.SWNL
2.Smug Anime Girl
3.stop stealing my pictures!
4.Trading (you)s
5.gondar feet

any i should add?
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Reminder that Secret will never lose desu.
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>>123304071
Adelaide?
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Bane is fully and completely useless against Meepo at a concept level.
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>>123304071
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>>123304071
>gondar feet
>bad meme

spot the 2k memer
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>>123304050
There exist in houses but waifubot is kill. No membucks were saved sadly.
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>>123303554
I would rather play with peruvians desu
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>>123303951
he counters huskar
i learned that in overthrow
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>>123304146
>>123304179
oh yeah adelaide and idolposting is pretty garbage

will make a new list in an hour

stay tuned friends
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>>123304179
Haha! This meme is great! It highlights the contrast between a mean message and a cute anime girl!

SO unpredictable!

Epic!
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How do we fix him guys? I want rtc to do well.
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>>123304182
post gondar feet

I like the one where he's doing a handstand :3
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>>123304402
We need to bring back Anime Gaming without bone7
1. Envy
2. Rtz
3. Singsing
4. Aui
5. Pieliedie
Then he will finally be happy again
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>>123304471
>not diaper gondar
bad taste
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>>123304071

>n0tail is good and didn't get carried hard to his first LAN win

it's a shit meme tbH
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b-buckle up
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>>123304565
Is PPD ISIS now?
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>>123303493
>Anon
>Poster without brain
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pls r8
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>>123304565
>2015
>People still wear Fedoras
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>>123304824
it's a trilby

brim isn't wide enough to be a fedora
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>>123303114
I think youre adding the wrong guy, i have 36 friends it cant be full
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>>123304557
are you mad ee was too heavy for w33 and puppey?
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>>123304732

amazing

you are the best player to ever bless this general

no

no, please...

allow me:

THANK YOU!!!
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>tfw I am 50 wins / 16 losses with only playing CARRY ABADDON

>tfw that equals to a 34 to 0 ZERO loss ratio

>tfw none of you shitters even realize how sleeper OP the Hero is

>tfw I haven't played this game in over a month and still none of you shitstains have caught up to my record

>tfw I am still the best ABADDON player in the entire gulag

>tfw I am the chosen by the mist.
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>>123305114
that's nice

post gondar feet
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>>123303554
Played an inhouse game once. Never again.

>All chat shittalking constantly and spamming memes
>Half team ragequits after feeding first blood
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>>123304623
he has always been undercover, cant you see it?
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would you play with me?
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>>123302496
>>123302510
>>123302547
>>123302576
>>123302605
>>123302708
>>123302721
>>123302797
>>123302812
>>123302847
>>123302863
I just came back to roll some dota and browsing /d2g/ and here I am witnessing first 11 posts of bitching and sour memeposting.

To think I'll ever look back to the past when dota 2 generals used to be great. You guys actually managed to make /d2g/ threads worse than dog filth, congratulations.

Are you fucks just that salt that "EG" or "Secret" didn't win 1st place? You need to get off of your high horse, dotards. What is clearly a fact is that Frankurt Majors delivers some beautiful dota. Even if the team that supposed to be "your guy" win there's nothing you gain except you gain as a fan.

Discuss how they win, not who are winning. 5k-6k that might still lurk and post here probably won't discuss it because most of them didn't "want" you to get higher mmr. They invented ironic memebuild that doesn't actually work so you trenchies never could even make it to 4k. Step up your games, dotards.

I couldn't even imagine when patch with new hero kicks in what would you retards post. Another "absolute madman" spam post like on the threads just after new items patch kicks in should be banned.
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>>123305485
>3 heroes that can kill you even if they're on your team

I'd be too scared honestly
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>>123305485
>fenix
>eboring spirit
what a meme
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>>123305485
>3 heroes that zoom around really fast, potentially in dangerous enemy territory

Yeah you seem cool. Earth Spirit players are usually bros.
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gondars cute, furry little toes

>>123305485
yes
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>>123305578
Yeah, I'm not reading that, even though I have two (You)'s there.
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>>123303114
Anon? Just post the steam again ill add you now before going to bed
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Holy shit, this starladder bitch is ugly as HELL.
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>>123305774
https://steamcommunity.com/id/daendelion
gudnyt yurup friend
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>>123305845
She's australian.
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why does cm's ulti cost a billion mana on max level
its fucking retarded you don't even have mana for a full combo without int items
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>Try out offlane enchantress never level enchant meme
>20/2/9
Holy fuck guys, literally free mmr.
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>Win Match
>Lose Match
>Win Match
>Lose Match
>Win Match
>Lose Match
>Win Match
>Lose Match

What a productive day for my MMR
How is your day going /d2g/?
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>>123305229
Most of the cancerous shitters(i.e. spetsky) are now almost never played in the inhouse again.

Reviving waifubot is a bad idea, the cancerous shitters should back again because most of them are inside m4st4h & m72thecock's cirlejerk, and there is in no way possible waifubot could be revived without these kekkolds wanting to play IH again.
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>>123306169
I just play custom games now, actual Dota is shit
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>>123306102
Just rush aghs bro :^)
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>>123306169
that means your mmr is right what it should be shitter
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would you BREED Llama?

I would let her sit on my face
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>>123306169
>Play a hero that I have a 75% win rate with
>Lose four games in a row playing said hero
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>>123306249
whats a good custom?
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>>123305578
Adelaide and Melbourne are banned at the moment so I'd say it's pretty chill at the moment mate.
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>>123306408
she looks cute but I think she's a terrible caster, anyways, I'd breed her
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who cares fuck this game
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five enemies five memes
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Welp, 5 losses in a row.

Not sure if i should take a break or just play unranked for a bit.
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>>123306725
Play custom games, mate.
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>>123306725
if youre like 3k just play unranked, the games are always chill

if youre higher than 3k youll just wreck scrubs and it wont be any fun at all
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>>123306584
Who the f*** is Melbourne
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>>123306719
Why was that funny. I laughed very hard at that.
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>>123305883
Added
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>>123306408
who?
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>>123303554
I-I add other people but it's not for Dota
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>>123306169
My MMR is so subterainian I just dont give a shit and actually play the game for fun. There is nothing for me to gain from trying to grind for some number.
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>>123306925
the way the dog looks at the cameraman as he's going out the door is so perfect

>help me
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>>123306584
I'm still here though.
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>>123306719
I didn't notice she took the dog with on the first loop, that is a fine ass in some revealing pants.
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>>123307028
uMMMMMMM THOSE R MY PICTORS SHITTSAIN?!!?
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>>123306914
One of the blonde bitches. Bottom far right I think. I can't remember who exactly because I never watched the show.

>>123307028
Who the fuck are you? Perth? Canberra? Queensland? Identify yourself.
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>>123305578
You're wasting your time posting, 2k-3k trenchies like this >>123305717 anon here are swarming the /d2g/. The fact that when icefrog released the huge meta-changing patch(glimmer,octraine,etc) patch makes /d2g/ spammed with memes that hurts to see are supporting the evidence of 2k-3k inflated in this general. /d2g/ has truly become /d2gulag/ and there's nothing you can do.
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>>123307215

Dude, I'm very high bracket.
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>>123307215
Glimmer is a fucking retarded item, way to make supports even more broken.
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is there any reason lotus orb does not dispel mirana arrow
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>>123303554
You can join Inhouses whenever lad.

Just a word to the wise, everyone in there is trying to win, and almost everybody is acting like they don't want to win, and everybody is calling anybody who kills anybody a tryhard.
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>>123307447
Same reason as the arrow goes through Roshan's shield.
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>>123306927
accepted :^)
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>>123307503
Says youre offline :<
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>>123307497
no it shouldnt block it. but it should dispel the buff after it hits
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>>123307447
It's only a weak dispel
Strong dispels would be like aphotic shield and press the attack which can remove stun
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>>123307497
Uh, Dispel is way different to reflect m8.
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I'm just not at home right now so I don't have access to all my images is all, and going through archives is fucking gay fuck that shit
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>>123307587
Im not in the place to be online in steam. :<
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>>123306991
show me your penis
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>>123307831
GAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY.......................
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>>123305485
Utility bro, would play with
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is potm support or core
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>>123307902
It's not gay; it's a bonding experience. Why you gotta make things gay, bro? Do you see a dog and think "oh damn that nigga has his dick out that's fuckin gay yo"
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>>123307747
Huh??
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>>123308032
There's no Dota 2 hero named potm
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>>123308032
situational, generally not great as 1 or 2 tho
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>>123308058
yeah exactly dude

like cmon dude never had a naked heart to heart??? just comfort with your nude bodies no judgement
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>>123308079
dont 'huh' me

suggest anime
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should i not be upset for losing 2 games?
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>>123308032
>can't flashfarm
>only 1 steroid that does jack shit
>shit base damage
>shit stat growth

You'd be better off going for VS carry if you're going to be retarded
Also she's a shitty support right now since she's like badpudge with reusable ghetto smoke
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>>123307628
potm arrow needs strong dispel, like aphotic shield or smth, to purge it
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How are those games going boys?
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is this godlykka's DB?

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/146629043
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BITCH!
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>>123308085
princess of the moon
>>123308032
don't play princess of the potm she's garbo ever since they nerfed her only good skill

she's best as a roaming support when your team has reliable disables
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>>123307831
I'm not posting it in front of everyone
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>>123308357
>literal 5ker in the gulag

you don't belong here. this is the real trench
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>>123308032
She's an initiator you dumb shit, read her abilities
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/d2g/ still thinks there is only one person posting best girl?
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>>123308437
thats ok

i bet it's cute though :3
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>>123308226
No i just dont understand how dould you accept me if you cant be online? Are you a wizard?
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>3100 MMR shitter
>still getting rekt
>play unranked for a few games
>check dotabuff
>Very High Skill
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>>123308393
Pretty likely. We will never know though.
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Guys there's like a pain in my chest when I fap since yesterday
Am I going to die
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>>123308654
Yes, goodbye anon
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>>123308357
>highest MMR goes support
>loses
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>>123308620
Anything below VHS is complete dog shit. Even games way above the threshold are trash, just look at this shit sentinel team non stop fucking feeding all game >>123308357
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>>123308745
yeah, io is one of those supports thats reliant on someone on your team being good in order to win games
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>>123308574
is this bait?

well there is offline mode for that matter
and steam on website too

>>123308627
what ever man. no need to hideurself. i sorted through the tinker matches and its his
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>>123308620
>trying to grind your solo MMR up to your unranked hidden MMR
>noticeable decrease in game quality

kill me
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>>123308823
>sentinel

epic meme broski
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>>123308823
>sentinel

okay gramps
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>>123302810
But they already have been top 3!!
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>>123308823
i am 4k shitter but at least i build better than these 5ks

wtf are those meme support builds
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>>123308885
O yeah.. O well.. I wanted to talk a bit before sleepy time but i guess we can talk tomorrow
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>while standing in Macropyre, liquid fire and dual breath do not tick down
Thoughts?
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>>123309046
Get out before I delete you again.
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>>123309125
want a steam friend to talk to, dudester?
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What goes through a secret fan's head?
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>Secret fanbase literally in flames after cr1t's ask.fm

It's beautiful
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>>123309351
>>123309393
>caring about which e-celebrities other preteens like
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>>123309393
link it up
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>>123309196
>free slow and dps
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>>123309351
>this is over, there's no way this fucking draft is going to work
>WHAT THE FUCK

>this is over, this draft is unbeatable and this game is unthrowable
>WHAT THE FUCK
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>>123309196
>Macropyre doesn't melt Icepath
DOTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDS ?
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>>123309524
*free

*if they don't literally walk out
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>>123309196
OP as hell.
Here's the needed fix: macropyre is now pure damage.
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>>123308435
its potm of the moon you fuck
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what heroes do you find the most fun, dotards? i like necro a lot
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>Axe has three immortals now
>Still no immortal axe
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>>123309196
Macropyre just needs to be much larger to the sides
It doesn't do enough damage to justify being so fucking small, it's probably the worst ultimate in the game
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>>123309518
He deleted it because secret fans went nuts on reddit
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>>123309701
walking burns calories anon, thats not free at all
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>>123309196
Just make macropyre shaped like upheaval. The strongest spell in the game.
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>>123309125
its ok anon, we can talk at discord if you like
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>>123308437
Hi P.!
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Any heroes you guys are surprisingly good with? Didn't know I had such a good weaver record.
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>>123308745
>>123308881
>Pick wisp
>Get blown up by high-burst like Timbersaw
Sounds about right. As to whether that was a good pick, different story.
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>firstpick jungle legion commander
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>check https://www.4chan.org/bans
>yfw you didnt make it again
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>>123310254
I was honestly amazed when I got terrorblade into my top 10 on dotabuff and realized that I have a 65% winrate with him
Feels like I lose every game cause he's so fucking bad
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>>123310254
I fucking love playing weaver. I wish this wasn't such an anti armor meta.
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>lose once
>stop playing
>win once
>stop palying

how do i get over myself? i wont improve only playing 1 game a day 2 at that.
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>>123310254
63% winrate with Earth Spirit.

I can't even play this hero though...
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>>123310346
>pick wisp
>carries are high mobility glass cannons

High MMR supporting is incredible
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gib oldie totter buffs thanks
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>>123310426
stop worrying so much about whether or not you win

play to improve, not to win

there are people that are in high 5k-6k just by spamming sf mid, they didn't play to improve, they played to win and now they're shit at the game AND in a high bracket
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>>123310426
You have to be dead inside like RTZ when he streams, just keep pressing that Queue ranked button
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>>123309978
doesn't make sense to buff it's range

buffing it's duration is a better idea

make it last 40 seconds with aghs
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okay i think i'm done for real this time
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>>123310705
>go aghs+octarine
>neverending macropyres
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any naga players here

when i select my illusions and a click them individually to a camp how do I stop like 2 of them going to the same camp even though I sent them all to different camps

maybe im just fucking retared but it just keeps happening
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>>123310916

Kill urself, you fucking 2k mmr dipshit.
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>>123310951
nothing wrong wid dis
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>>123310995
?
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>>123310505
daily reminder that sub 20 games does not count in stats like these
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>>123310995
no bullying allowed on d2g qt
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>>123310916
Not even ranked, what are you complaining for
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>>123311078
>losing with Abaddon
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>>123310916

>unranked

who cares
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>>123310990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmmpjOchM4

This is how you should spread your illusions
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>>123310916
protip: stop playing axe, he's bad unless you can close out games very quickly

only pick am if the rest of your lineup ensures you have a very good early game
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>>123310995
>>123310916
dw this qt is a tsundere she wants to play with you and be your senpai
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>>123311085
even 20 is too low to be significant ... heck even 30 is. you could have a 100% with winrate from spaming him 15 times when just starting dota then never play him again during your next 2000 games then for whatever reason do okay during the next 5 games and you suddenly sitting on a 20 games ricki statistic that means nothing
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>>123311289
thank you anon
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>>123311362
*with riki
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>>123310995
>>123311220
stop bullying people you big meanie
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>>123311220
?

I bet you didn't get 40 kills as abaddon before
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>Poor network conditions have been detected

SIMPLY EPIC VALVE :^)
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>>123311545
>Ability Draft
Literally
nobody
cares
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>>123310990
you movecommand to a camp as usual (specficially move command, not attack-move) then shiftqueue an attack move on top of the camp (which should be where your initial move command ended up going)
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>In the darkest of hours

>whenever Secret - Team GigaReddit - is about to win a Major
>or needs to be shut down in TI

>the ourrest of our guys always strike sthem down
>the heart of the gulag ALWAYS kills the team of incarnate redditors

>First is was based our canonical namesake guys slavs, based VP
>now it was our canonical guys O.ur G.uys with our guy N0tail

We should never doubt our guys to triumph over Reddit.
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>>123311575
>valve responsable for not buying me google fiber
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>>123311603
But you didn't get 40+ kills on abaddon ?

How can you say you're good at him if you didn't get that many kills with carry abaddon ?
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>Enchantress slasher way
>Necro 3
Senpaitachi, tell me there's a better stomping build.
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>>123310995
>>123311220

>>123311354
i-is this true?
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>>123311078
>>123311509
>>123311545
>>123311686
>>123311174
>>123311354
Easiest (You)s nerds, absolutely owning it today.
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Adelaide majors when?
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>>123311663
>have the disposable income for google fiber
>not going to buy it because it's worthless unless you want to run a business

meh
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>>123311651
holy shit yes this is exactly what i was fucking up god bless m8
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>have clock
>faggot last picks an ember spirit and goes offlane with me

Naturally we lost the lane completely.
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nice thread you guys got here
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>>123305485
Depends on if you're going offlane or not.
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>>123311782
soon qt
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>>123311772
No. Fuck off, gaylord.

>>123311776
>tries to copy my meme
>doesn't even post one of my images

Throw urself in front of a truck, retard.
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>faggot with singsing in his name
>another faggot named salty

Should I have just abandoned at loading screen? What's even the punishment for that?
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STILL NO NEW HEROS
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>>123312271
>at loading screen
The actual loading screen or after you're in game waiting for the other players?

You don't get queue banned at the very least, if not getting an abandon, and doing so will put you into the shadow queue.
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>>123312265
>le 5 anime girls and parrot hitler

that's all your images cuklet
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>>123312271
You get an exponentially increasing time-out from matchmaking and invisible points towards banishment to shadow pool
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>>123312464
*You get queue banned
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>>123312438
excuse me? Valve just finished the fall compendium and they're about to release the winter compendium do you think they have time for new heroes??? stop being so entitled
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>>123312510
Not really.
I have about 78 total different images.
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>>123312464
>>123312514
>le shadow pool meme

i laff evrytim
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You guys think MINESKI will ever lose again? My guess: NEVER.
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>>123311663
?
No network issues on my end. Don't get my +25 after carrying a team of subhuman animals. Somehow this is my fault.
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>>123312271
Yes, if you don't leave you're not doing your part to better the community.
Better yet, stay and feed down mid.
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What ever happened to Clinkz?
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>>123312623
I wish they would hold a major in Toronto
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>>123313040
he dies when stunned making him not very good
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>>123313040
At the base of the Bleeding Hills stretches a thousand-league wood—a place called The Hoven, where black pools gather the tarry blood of the uplands, and the king-mage Sutherex sits in benevolent rule. Once a sworn protector of the Hoven lands, Clinkz earned a reputation for his skill with a bow. In the three-hundredth year of the king-mage, the demon Maraxiform rose from sixth hell to lay claim to the forest. In response, the king-mage decreed an unbreakable spell: to any who slew the demon would be granted Life Without End.

Unaware of the spell, Clinkz waded into battle, defending his lands against the demon’s fiery onslaught. Clinkz drove Maraxiform back to the gates of sixth-hell itself, where on that fiery threshold the two locked in a mortal conflict. Grievously wounded, the demon let out a blast of hellfire as Clinkz loosed his final arrow. The arrow struck the demon true as hellfire poured out across the land, lighting the black pools and burning Clinkz alive at the instant of the demon’s death. Thus, the mage’s spell took effect at the very moment of the archer’s conflagration, preserving him in this unholy state, leaving him a being of bones and rage, caught in the very act of dying, carrying hell’s breath with him on his journey into eternity.
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Im going to take a shower, when i return, i better fucking have 10 (You)s you fuckig 2k shitters
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is d2g a jew general?
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>>123313040
Reddit decided that AGI carrys who aren't Gyro are toxic
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>>123313339
But Gyro is completely bullshit right now
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patchu
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Yo...

Patch?
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how bout that patch
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>>123313481
>>123313576
>>123313597
J U S T
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>>123313661
are you mad!
are yo u mad! go reage mad bitch! rotflarmo
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>>123313304
(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)
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>>123313746
lol u tk him 2dabar?!1
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>75 unique posters
>242 replies

DOTARDS????????????????????????????
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http://www.dotabuff.com/players/9332911

>makes an alt account to get past bottleneck
>somehow fucks it up
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>>123314142
All me
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Hey!
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>>123314142
we migrated to rdota2
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wtf is going on
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Hey!
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>Steam goes offline
>Dota 2 crashes
>Load up Dota 2
>No patch
>Crashes 15 seconds later
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>>123314592
Oh, the replays tab is bugged.
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what's going on with axe ROfl
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>>123312271
And lo and behold, they're every bit as bad as I expected them to be.
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>>123314493
hey!
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>>123314935
it's all me, family
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