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Out of K.O. becomes O.K.

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Leeroy 4 Mana
Undertaker gained +1/+1
Starving Buzzard 2 Mana

All at the same time.

Thatw as the worst period of HS without question. The paladin stuff going around doesn't even compare.
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>spells can no longer be cast on heroes

There I fixed ur shit game blizzard, aggro gets kekolded and control is buffed.

Even lets you mess with more hero replacements like jarax because they are technically minions.
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>>123284237

>Shitters who only just started playing HS talking about the History of Hearthstone

I bet you weren't even here when Giants Warrior was a thing
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>Warlock is literally unplayable while aggro druid is still popular
>Memestorm rates warlock as tier 1

ebin
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>>123284645
>turn 1 pass
>hunter coins Undertaker and Leper Gnome
welp, I guess I lose
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>>123285163
zoo warlock thou
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we're gonna be rich lads
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>shaman is bad
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>still only 9 deck slots

how can you justify this
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>>123285296
Still gets shit on by aggodruid.
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>>123284662
>people thought Reno Jackson was going to end the aggro meta
>instead it forced aggro players to build even more broken cancer decks with more insane burst
Holy kek I can't stop laughing.
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What is the top class card of each class?
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>>123285362
Reynard shitter

Should i dust my malygos to finish the cancer deck? I dont know if ill ever use malygos in anything.
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>>123285472
Everything gets shit on by aggro druid.
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>>123285495
>Aggro can become more Aggro when it wants too

So is it like Goku when they magically need to get stronger just to beat the opponent?

On a serious note, Reno has saved my ass against Aggro fucks loads of times.
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>>123285592
Except Priest.

>Wild Pyromancer
>Tons of removal
>Holy Nova
>Light Bomb
>Stealing your minion with Shadowmadness, Cabal, etc
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>>123285362
>cropping out ranks

Literally worthless opinion.
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>>123285592
Warlock gets shit on extra hard because your hero power helps him hit combo threshold. And you're not going to out-agro a druid as zoolock unless his hand is shit tier and your hand is god tier because druid can play agro while still having board clears.
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>>123283641 #
>How to nerf paladin
Remove it from the game entirely

As if blizzard will nerf multiple paladin cards, they'll just nerf mystero and call it fine even though mid range is just as bad
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>Coins out portal
>Turn 2 IS DIS DA FISHIGN DURNAMENT

Balanced card

>Mage later has absolutely nothing on board but a clockwork gnome

>Portals when I have board of 5 1/1s
>Gets abomination

BALANCED FUCKING CARD HOLY SHIT

GIVE WHOEVER THOUGHT MAKING GAMES BE DECIDED BY A DICE ROLL A PROMOTION
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>>123285362
>tales from rank 20
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>>123285792
You can't steal or remove charging treants, doofus
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>>123285995
As if you have never gotten lucky too with RNG, fucker.
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I fixed this bullshit card
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>>123285995
>Portals when I have board of 5 1/1s

You deserved it for playing Paladin.
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>>123285950

>Blizz nerfs ray mysterio once the next expansion comes out because nobody buys tgt packs anymore

>Now only pulls up to 3 random secrets

>Paladins now play less secrets in their deck and cut the secret keeper

>In return they can now fit more midrange shit like keeper of uldaman in their deck
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>>123286073
No but you can remove all the weenies before that, slowly building up your Board with threating minions.

Not to mention they're Priest, so they can naturally heal all that damage taken over time, not including spells
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>>123285995
Get fucked paladin shitter
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>>123284645
Paladin isn't even that good anymore.
I'm talking from personal experience. I 'm getting rekt by like half the decks out there.
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>>123286158
Better yet, make it "unleash the mecha-hounds" instead so it's not a kill command trigger.
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>>123286092

And I still would rather have no
Who the fuck wants RNG

When I used to play dota I advocated removal of damage spread on right clicks but noooo RNG makes a game more ebin

>>123286170

Y-you dont know I was pally, I might have been zoolock!
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>>123285592
What pisses me off about Aggro Druid is that not only can these faggots exodia you by the time you have half health. They can protect themselves with high hp and slightly high attack minion taunts.
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>>123284662
This would actually fix the game desu
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>>123286413

Paladin is a strong as it's ever been, it's you.
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>>123286215
I think nerfing mysterious challenger is very misguided.
Instead, they should just completely remove the card from the game and pretend it never happened. The game would be better without any form of secret paladin deck
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>>123285163
You rarely see aggro druids and warlock is extremely strong now.
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>>123286413
Paladin is even stronger now with keeper
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>>123285995
>IS DIS DA FISHIGN TURNAMYNT
>summons healing totem
>dies to my minibot
>totem does fuck all and dies 1 turn later
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>take 8 to the face from balanced bots
>opponent has exact lethal

thanks.
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>>123286551

>they should just completely remove the card from the game

A Blizzard style nerf amounts to pretty much the same thing. How many Buzzards and Warsongs have you seen lately?
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>>123284645
>Cards that were broken before/when the first expansion hit

No shit those would be broken it's the first time introducing new cards, we're 5 sets in now and they still haven't bothered to keep up with balancing this ever growing game.
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>>123286617

that's Tuskarr Totemic.

He was talking about Tuskarr Jouster, which isn't even in the top 20 worst things to come out of Portal.

>tfw coin Portal Van Cleef
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>>123286540
My winrate as secredin fell from ~70% to ~60% these two past weeks.
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Name 1 way the game would be worse if spells couldn't be cast on heroes.
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>>123286929
You couldn't win with a spell mage
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>>123286838
Triggered
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>>123286929

Freeze Mage wouldn't exist, which makes aggro 2x stronger and 4x more popular.
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>>123287023
He said "worse", not "better".
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>>123286617
retard
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>>123286929

It would be boring as fuck. Black knight in every deck. Every faggot will run double belcher.
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>>123287075
>which makes aggro 2x stronger and 4x more popular.
how does it make aggro x2 stronger when they can't cast all their damage spells on face anymore?
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Y'know, anon, after dusting the non-golden version, the golden version of your favorite Legendary is only 2,800 dust!
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>>123286929
>spellbender is a neutral minion
Fixed your game
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>>123286249
What I find more repulsive is how aggro druid has become more of a face deck than face hunter, with leper gnomes, abusive sergeants and shit.
It forces you to trade because you're basically dead at 15 health, and you absolutely have to keep the board clear every turn or else no amount of health is going to save you.
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>>123286612
I was talking about secret paladin. I 'm actually thinking about putting a keeper or two in cause the reason I lose lately are huge minions coming out early or high health taunted ones. Dunno what to replace though...
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>>123286929
No more freeze mages.

Yes that's a bad thing, it's one of the few high tier decks that beat aggro without being aggro itself
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>>123286929
druid is the only class with any semblance of burst left. Literally everyone plays druid now.

well done
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>>123287235
>implying you need freeze when aggro can't cast 20~ damage on face every game
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>>123287132

>how does it make aggro x2 stronger when they can't cast all their damage spells on face anymore?

The only aggro that wins by doing that is face hunter

it doesn't stop aggro druid, secret paladin, zoolock etc

desu your idea is shit and you're probably a shieldbearer still getting mad at tier 3 face hunter while immensely stronger aggro decks exist.
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>>123287271
Remove force of nature, but that's been obvious to everybody since closed beta
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>have 31 hp due to a single armour, play doomsayer on my turn
>druid comboes me for exactly 30 damage
>brann healbot next turn when his board is wiped

lol
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>Play unearthed raptor
>opponent stops playing cards
I like this.
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>>123287397

what a fucking shieldbearer

FoN is actually kinda underpowered by itself, the real fucking problem is that Savage Roar is beyond OP.
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I like how most of the people here call everyone shieldbearers while their view on the game comes entirely from reynad's shitty site and reddit memes.
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>>123287587
>the real fucking problem is that Savage Roar is beyond OP.
Yeah that's why bloodlust is so OP.

Make force of nature 2 trees with 3/3 and it's fixed you shieldbearing faggot
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How do I make wrathguards work?
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>>123287657

bloodlust is nothing like SR you fucking retard

For starters it's two mana more. that's a HUGE difference.

Plus it doesn't even give attack to your hero.

You prolly don't know what the fuck you're talking about, if Savage Roar didn't exist nobody would fucking play force of nature.
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>>123287774
Let CW shield slam it
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>mfw destroy palaniggers with aggro shaman
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>games been out for 4 years
>blizzard still unable to implement more than 9 deck slots
>blizzard still unable to implement auto-squelch
>blizzard no longer gives the first wing of adventures away


How can you justify playing this game
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how is handlock balanced?
seriously does the deck have any weakness?
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>>123287918
>i destroy cancer with cancer
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>>123287774
4 attack is no different from 3 if it can still get killed by a juggler
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>>123287587
>>123287816
>The one thing that is consistently breaking the game and has to be nerfed every two patches is charge
>OTK warrior
>Leeroy
>unleash the hounds
>patron warrior
>"trust me guise charge is not the problem here"

What a brilliant display of delusion.
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>>123288071
Yes, I gave in to the dark side. Yet I don't care, paladins need to get lined up and shot.
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I wanna climb ladder today pass me a good deck to do it i dont trust those website all decks say they are over 60% win ratio thats bullsit
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>>123288071
You either die fighting the cancer or live long enough to see yourself become it
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>>123287980
Just save your skill commands after he taunts up at low hp, fellow traveller ;)
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>>123287918
I haven't lost to a single one except one who had Fel Reaver.
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>>123288153

Charge was the problem in those cases, in THIS case the problem is that I can get 20 attack value for 3 mana, and yet you insist that the problem is 6 attack for 6 mana?

delusion indeed.
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Come up with a new mechanic for future expansions
GO
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>>123288259
>>123288197

Such is life in /hsg/.
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>>123288274
any weakness that's not absolute cancer*
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>>123288295
>thinks combo does 6 damage

holy fuck my sides
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>>123287947
ever heard of muting the game
also they literally said the first wing thing from naxx was a one-time thing
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>>123288436
fuck off loser
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>>123288295
>But THIS time it's different, trust me on this!
Quick question: How much damage does savage roar without charging treants?

Answer: kill yourself desu senpai
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Nerfed
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>>123288475
blizzdrone detected

I didn't even know people like you still existed
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>>123288373

Imagine you have two 4/4s on board.

You play FoN and SR and do 26 damage.

Of those 26, 6 were the treants, and 12 was savage roar.

You dealt DOUBLE THE DAMAGE FOR HALF THE FUCKING MANA.

You understand now?
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scamaz
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>>123288551
>nerfing tempo mage
fuck you, it's the most fun deck in the game
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>>123288686
If you're leaving two 4/4s on the board it's your problem.

If you get combo'd there is borderline no counters in the game to stop it from happening.

Have you even played ranked mode before?
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>>123288506

lmao calm down nerd
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>>123288632
nice counterargument magic shitter
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How good is this? Is there a newer Shaman list that isn't Reynad's deck?
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>>123288773

>If you're leaving two 4/4s on the board it's your problem.

Yes but that's irrelevant, it was just an example.

My point was that SR is the real broken card and again, NO ONE would play FoN if it didn't exist since 2/2 treants suck ass if you can't buff them.
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>>123288768
but flamewaker is broken as shit
my tempo mage fucking blows as I don't have BRM
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>>123288768
Yeah go fuck yourself with your 3 mana ''i cleared your everything after receiving minions that cost 3 less''
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>>123288896
Muting doesn't stop emotes and being greedy is not justifiable.

You ignored half my post and your argument consists of you saying it's okay.

Try making a real argument if you want a serious discussion blizzdrone.
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>Can't leave rank 9 because whenever I'm one win away I get my worst match-up possible and don't get a good opening hand
How does this keep happening
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>>123288773

The thing that stops treants is the same thing that stops the 4/4s: Taunt.

Do you really think its fair that druid is capable of so much burst that you literally cannot let them have a board any time late game that you lose?
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>>123288924
>Yes but that's irrelevant, it was just an example.
what

Here's another example then, your opponent has 4 12/12 deathwings on the board

He plays combo, 14 of that damage comes from combo but 56 damage comes from the deathwings.

Clearly the issue is deathwing
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>>123289057
>Do you really think its fair that druid is capable of so much burst that you literally cannot let them have a board any time late game that you lose?
If letting your opponent have a board late game is the unbalanced issue, why isn't bloodlust overpowered?
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justicar trueheart nerf when?
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>>123289131

The issue in that example is savage roar giving you 8 damage for having 3 minions on board, regardless of deathwing

Savage Roar = 3 mana 8 damage = SR is the problem
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I could use help on the 'watch and learn' quest.
MrRu#2781 on America
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>>123289267
because shaman is an utterly useless class unlike druid
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>>123289360
Savage roar is 2 damage without your pre-required board
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>>123289272
>removing the rng from an ability that is useless solely due to it being rng
>absolutely useless

Truly must your shield be heavy, friend.
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>>123288908
SOMEONE RESPOND
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>>123289272
>FINE
Yeah okay Pally shitter you can go home now.
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>>123289464
How many justicars have you seen played in shaman decks since its release?
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>>123289272
>Dealing 4 damage to the enemy hero is too OP but gaining 4 armor every turn is perfectly fine
That's just balance
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>>123289464
are you retarded
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>>123289021
play secret pally

seriously you only have 6 days left
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What's the best feeling in HS and why is it beating a shitter who BMs you all game with Reno?
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i just beat a midrange paladin on like turn 20 when he played justicar turn 6. holy fuck that was hard.
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>>123289726
I don't have the dust nor the cards for secret pally and I would never play my least favorite class anyway
I'm trying with face hunter but I get fucking control deck after control deck even though when I tried another deck I was literally only fighting secret pallies. It's like the game literally just doesn't want me to win.
Why the fuck did they have to tie rewards to ranked I was perfectly fine completely ignoring it and just playing dumb decks in casual
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>>123289649
As many as I've seen shamans.


So zero, since they suck ass
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why is forsen running htaurizzan when he only plays 1 card a turn?
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What would good stats/class be for a card with the text "Battlecry: Trigger another card's Battlecry."?
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>>123289464
>Shaman needs justicar to have their hero power boosted to a level that's about as strong as any other non-buffed hero power
I found the problem here.
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>>123285547
don't be gay
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>>123289982
What deck?
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>>123290030
you forgot your LOL
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>>123288436
Swap the mage and Paladin and then it makes sense.
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>>123289953
hey man, either adapt or sink.

I played various flavors of hunter and mage last season to reach rank 9. Then I crafted secret pally and made it to rank 4 at the end of last season and have already done rank 4 this time as well.

Secret pally. It runs like butter.

ps. unpowered aggro version too. No legos.
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>>123289272
>Heal is now 3
>Poison daggers are now 3/2
>Totemic Slam now summons ANY random totem like tuskarr
>Soul tap is fine, it's just warlocks have synergy with loosing health
>Tank up is now 3
>The silver hand is fine, or summons a 2/2 recruit instead which still keeps synergy like quartermaster
>Fireblast rank 2 is fine, or is 2 1 damage shots on different targets
>Ballista shot is fine, or keep it 2 damage but target-able anywhere
>Dire shapeshift is fine

Some like druid and mage have potential in future, just not in this meta
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>>123290058
control warrior
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>>123289735
post dick
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>>123290198
>hunter
>deal 2 damage to any target
I like this. I like all of your ideas.
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>>123290198
>totem slam summons 2 totems of your choice if you have no totems on board.
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>>123289272
How is Dire shapeshift useless?
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>>123289267

Because its attached to a shit class that shoots its own mana curve in the foot for trying to tempo properly
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>>123289680
defense is supposed to be more cost effective than offense you retard. It's like that in nearly every game.
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>>123290379
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>>123290532
>autism the post

8 mana for 4 dmg as a hunter...
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>>123290586
>not permanent

mages have fallen hero and justicar doing the same but hunters are stuck with this shit and given 3 damage instead
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>>123290769

Shit like this is why hunters are stuck with hyper aggro face and can't build a proper control deck.

It's like Blizzard won't let them NOT be cancer.
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MUH DICK
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>>123286158
Fuck you you piece of shit
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>>123290532
>use tank up 3 times equals 12 armor
>use balistta shot 3 times equals 9 damage
>12 - 9 = 3 damage unscathed
>literally an entire upgraded hunter hero power is skipped
>balanced
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>>123290586
>dies to literally anything
>effect not permanent
100 dust/10
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>>123290868
midrange and control? no let's go face!

hunters have some of the best control removals like explosive shot, power shot, multi shot, explorers hat and hunters mark but are doomed to be face hunters because their shitty hero power.
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>>123290973
>winning with a broken deck
wow... so skill.....
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>>123290973
haha lul hacked :D
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>>123290973
Reynads deck? Give it a week and it'll be forgotten just like reno lock was
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>>123291461
>broken
Much like every other Shaman if runs out of steam easily because no card draw nor any way to permanently inflict damage.
It'll fade after a week, it's not that great imo but raping paladins is enjoyable.
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How the fuck does anyone play ranked? Whenever I try a deck I instantly get my worst match-ups possible and drop a bunch of stars, and then if I switch decks I'll instantly get the worst match-ups for them and then even if I do rise in the ranks I'll start drawing like shit and lose 5 more games in a row because I somehow don't manage to draw any of my early game against a bunch of aggro decks. Why did they have to go and make a golden epic at ranked 5. It was fine with no rewards
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>>123291573
Yes, but I swapped the cogmasters for forked lightning and one mechwarper for one ancestral knowledge. It's working okay so far.
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Rate my shit idea
Basically what Rewinding does is that it reverts the effect of a battlecry completely
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>>123291835
retarded and impossible to implement
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>>123291732

Switching decks while laddering is a mistake because it increases the chance of bad matchups.

Also not wanting other players to have a golden epic at rank 5 just because you can't get there is pathetic to say the least.
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>>123291876
It's almost like I'm implementing my shit ideas here
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>Havent played in a year
>come back
>google "current top deck"
>apparently it's a midrange paladin deck now
>build it
>Have no idea about current meta. Still play like undertakers are the main threat
>go straight from rank 25 to 9 in a day

How are people stuck in double digit ranks?
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>>123292056
Well, maybe they don't have the cards to build good decks
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>>123292056
>Building a broken deck
>Rising through ranks easy
>Questions why others can't

Any paladin deck is cancer atm and insanely easy to rise to legend with
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>>123292056

because, as incredible as it may seem in this echo box, 90% of players are INCREDIBLY retarded shitter using whatever fotm deck is available to them.

They are the majority and the reason "I must attack that minion with Taunt" was changed to "a minion with Taunt is in the way". Because they were so retarded that the first sentence CONFUSED them. Think about that.
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>>123291924
But I feel like I have to switch decks because I seem to get nothing but bad match-ups, and then when I switch suddenly I'll only get bad match-ups for that deck. I'm just too unlucky for this shit.
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This game is so addicting, I played for a full hour.
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>>123292270

No, you're just making up excuses for your inability to climb.

Let's assume you make a midrange paladin. The ONLY way to get "nothing but bad matchups" for that would be getting NOTHING BUT FREEZE MAGES AND PATRON WARRIORS.

That is statistically impossible.
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>>123292056
>builds the top meta deck that literally is autopilot/playing on curve
>is able to rank up with ease
Gee I wonder why that is?
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Golden knifes soon.
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>>123292056

laddering this late in the season is piss easy. Try again in a week.
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>>123292124
>>123292215
>>123292605

haha so much salt get better shitters
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how come there are so many reno warlocks in high legend? does the deck have no counter?
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>>123292772
Are you retarded by any chance?
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>>123291835
3/5 ok
keep it up, guy
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>>123292718

MASOCHISM
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how to make beast druid work?
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Rate my OC?
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>>123289272
spot the smOrc
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>>123292774
no you are for being salty about someone being good at the game

craft some good cards and win, shithead
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Reminder that warlocks aren't allowed to have nice cards.
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>>123293005
>playing on curve is being good at the game
I suppose you think Face Hunter is a deck that takes skill to huh?
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>>123292971
Wait till moonkin and idol are released those should help
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>facehunters can no longer use exploding trap

And suddenly everything would be right in the world.
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>>123292879
>ONE pally deck is broken
>ONE
>suddenly every pally deck is cancer

kill yourself
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>>123293313
idol is shit
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>>123292605
>bitch about not being able to get past rank 15
>well try deck X
>"but i dont wanna be a meta babby i wanna play mah murloc deck!!!

gee whiz
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>>123293320

>waaaah they kill my board of shitty 1 ad 2 health minions

The only people complaining about explosive are aggro shitters themselves.
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So with the decision to give paladin all the super strong cards for their cost (minibot, muster, dr 6, tyrone, divine favour are the main offenders but there's more) IMO Blizz has simply fucked themselves over, at least temporarily.

Each new expansion now will have to compare to those cards across all classes. This is power creep at it's finest. The general power level of mid range decks is now dictated by paladin and shredder. They've been trying to dodge the issue but there's only so many 4 mana 3/5s you can make, and only so many 2 drops that can be designed to be as good as minibot.

There's no going back now, but it makes me wonder - formats might just be the best thing to happen to this game, if done correctly. In a new format, some of those older, arguably overvalued cards like Leper gnome, Juggler or mad scientist can be changed and meta can have a clean new start. Sure, there would be new broken cards, but those old stinkers that pollute every aggro and mid range deck would be gone. Hopefully they would've learned by now and decide that cards like esportal or boom are not ok. Paladin power level would go down, which I think we can all agree would be a good thing.

Don't get me wrong, this is not just about paladin; I think we can all agree that this game will implode on itself with all the broken tempo enablers Blizz keeps printing sooner or later if we don't have formats. I, for one, am excited about that possibility.

tl;dr formats good, power creep bad

Opinions?

Attached my predictions from before TGT to prove that I am indeed a prophet when it comes to this shit game
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>>123291259
nice job on completely missing the point
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>>123293426
>only aggro decks actually run 1 to 4 cost minions


okay
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new OC I've been working on
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Viable murlocs soon?
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>>123293371
>Reno is shit
>Dark peddler is shit
>Forgotten torch is shit
>Reliquary seeker is shit
>Tunnel trogg is shit
>Whole bunch of other cards that were redeemed shit but turned out okay

This happens every expansion/adventure, you can't judge them until they're actually released
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>>123293737
With Murloc Knight up, no and never will.
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>>123293949
dam shame
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>>123293737
Maybe they will one day friend
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>>123292982
spotted the redditor
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>>123293330

>One

There are 2 viable paladin decks in the game, mid-range and secret

They also happen to be the strongest decks in the game at the moment and require absolutely no thought to play other than "how much mana should I be spending this turn, all of it or some of it"
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>>123294141
>play it alone
>it kills itself

epic
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>>123294330
>Destroy another random murloc

Any better?
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>>123294316

Secret IS midrange

There is no conceivable reason not to play the challenger, it's just that good.
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>>123294430
I would leave it as is, so the player is actually required to play more murlocs as food for it.
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>>123292056
>>123292215
>>123292263
>>123292605
>>123292772
>>123292879
>>123293330
>>123294316
>>123294573

>tfw got rank 5 from rank 20 in 35 games with mid range secrets
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>>123294430
yes
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any substitute for tirion fordring that doesn't cost 1600 dust?
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>>123294573
Except if you don't want to play the secrets.

There is PLENTY of secretless mid range pally on the ladder and it's been cleaning up the ranks as much as secret pally has. Dr 6 is broken, but so is majority of paladins arsenal at this point.
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>>123294860
none
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>>123294860
No, not really. Tirion is top fucking tier.

If you're really on a budget, maybe sunwalkers, but really, nothing will compare.
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>>123294870

What mid range deck? Mine is kind of outdated.
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>>123294860
Tirion Fordragon
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>tfw winning against a druid because he obviously has had at least 3 combo pieces in his hand all game and I run healbot
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>>123295070
>p

The one that has an amazing card to play on curve every turn.

Chow
Minibot
Muster/FOLLOW DA RULES
Keeper of uldaman/shredder
TO ARMS MEN/I SEE YOU
Sylvanas
EHUEHUEHEUHEUE *Bomb noises*
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT

Then your choice of 9 drop, it really doesnt matter at that point. I like WARRIOR, YOUR STRENGTH BECOMES YOUR WEAKNESS or USURPERS, GNOMEREGAN IS MINE
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>>123295254
>tfw winning against a druid because I stayed at 18 health while the poor fuck was holding force of savage and couldn't even squeeze a single point of damage in
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>>123294860
If you play aggro secret pally you don't need tirion. But for every other paladin deck just put him in or don't play it.
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If I have neither, do I make fordring or trueheart for midrange paladin? I feel like trueheart is a good card to have for a lot of decks.
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>>123284474
do you think reno should have the orange outline to let you know that his battlecry will work, so that most people who play it don't have to use a decktracker?
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>>123295639
tirion
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>>123294860
substitute in what deck dude...
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>>123295640
no
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>>123295639
justicar dies to shredder
tirion doesn't
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>>123295640
obviously
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Not bad
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>>123295504
>>123294870

I am this dude >>123295070, I have these 2 decks, stopped playing the mid range one because tons of aggro and joined the dark side.
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>>123296064
>golden yaggler
I'm jelly
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every time i'm about to rank up this shit happens. it becomes quite fucking frustrating.
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>>123294274
>2 mana 2/1 that does nothing
nice fucking oc faggot
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>>123296313
discover removal
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what bot do you use /hsg/ im using a cracked HB right now.

I wish it was smartbot but i can't find a crack or anything for it. and fuck paying 60 bux
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>>123296313
>Always get cockblocked by a control warrior just as i'm about to rank up

Warriors are such bullshit and I don't even play aggro
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>>123296135

I swapped repentance for sacred trial

And dropped 1 Secret Keeper (She's a lot like zombie chow in terms of her early game power, you dont really wanna draw her any later than turn 1/2 ever, and she's only there to make up for drawing secrets early).

I also subbed out creepers for annoy-o-trons to fuck over aggro. Might switch back to creepers though now that agro has died down a fair bit.
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>Raptor still kills the client

Fixed my ass, we've been sat here 5 minutes waiting for the other to concede
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>>123296640
i flamestiked the turn before. the only thing that could lose me the game popped out.
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>>123296963

how's sacred trial working for you?
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>>123297093
>we've
nah, bro. it's just you and you've already lost.
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>>123297210

Some games it doesnt trigger at all because they never get a board of 3+ minions. I win those games

Other games it kills their dr. boom on turn 7 for free. I win those games too.

Good card
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>>123297316

Or maybe the card is a worse repentance and you win because the deck is broken?
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What the fuck happened?
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Trump getting rank 2 with f2p priest while i'm still at rank 12 with freeze mage. ;-;
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So...doth thou dust a golden Maly(gos)?
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>>123297705

The top 2 decks being both Paladin is very bad news for control warriors.
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>>123297439

>One card kills a minion on turn 7
>The other reduces its health to 1

Im not seeing why you'd run repentance. If the enemy plays around it you just end up activating it on a 1 drop or something.

Its impossible for the enemy to play around Sacred Trial without sacking minions they may not have wanted to sack to begin with.

Trust me, I've had the secret stolen from me in my time playing with it and it makes your game fucking awkward to play.
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Firendly reminder to everyone complaining about meta

The worst point in this game by far was original freeze mage the only deck that had any chance against it was priest and they were bad against pretty much everything else.
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>>123297758
Send help
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>>123298054

Freeze mage is legit again now though. And their only "bad" matchup is shit draws and control warriors.

Legitimately putting a kezan into my secret pally deck because fuck you mages.
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>>123298054
>there are people here right now who never played with 8 mana mind control

Good times.
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>>123297758
>ysera f2p elegiggle
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>>123297758

And it just took him 2 months of grinding to achieve it! Totally F2P !! xD
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>>123298459
>acting like a retard
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>>123298217
Current freeze mage is just good OG freeze mage was unstoppable as the only healing card people regularly ran was farseer, Loatheb couldnt stall a turn, no good deathrattles to stick on their board post doomsayer and Alex stripped all armour (mostly this one). Once Control warrior and the great freeze nerf happened everyone stopped with freeze
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>>123298671

Well, I find that being surprised because someone got rank 2 with his F2P deck after grinding for 2 and a half months for 8 hours per day and dusting all their shit just to make one "viable" (I bet he hasn't even finished the whole deck) deck is retarded.

But why I am trying to reason with a loser who watches streams? Go watch your "friend" who you have to pay to call his attention.
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>>123297758
>grinds in Arena for 2 months straight with an average winrate of 8 to 10 wins
>F2P
Yeah because we all know new Hearthstone players can do this and have the free time to play for 10 hours a day like Trump.
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I'm grinding gold to get 700 again
should I:
get the second wing of LoE
get the third of Naxx (without a single good card for me, they are in the fourth and fifth)
Get the first of BRM, (the only card I want there is the fire elemental shaman shit)
I don't have any plan on paying, and I still don't have any good legendary. Help me, /hsg/
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Is there any deck that actually runs Malygos? Got a golden one and was thinking of using it for a free lego of my choosing.
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Based balanced portal
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>>123299281
>i'll take a screenshot before grom gets siphoned to earn get those sweet upboats
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>>123299121

Finish Naxx first.
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>>123297705
Tempostorm has gone to shit is what
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