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Weebs, bronies, furries, tripfags not allowed Edition

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails?id=158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: trade.tf bazaar.tf backpack.tf./classifieds tf2outpost.com
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: trade.tf backpack.tf
Scrapbanking: scrapbank.me scrapwh.com scrap.tf
Betting: saloon.tf

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
Casual 6v6: steamcommunity.com/groups/vgsixes

>IRC
FUCK OFF
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>>123228734
tf2g pls don't b worthless

first for sniper is not gay
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AFTER LOSING 5-2 ON SUNSHINE TO TSU, CARTER QUITS FROYO. ASH HAS QUIT FROYOTECH BEFORE THE SECOND MAP! So juicy omg
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So what's the best Mannpower powerup?

I'm thinking it's Agile
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>>123238667
Bloodsire/TAGG/Lansky confirmed for blaze's replacement
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I can't jump for distance I try to aim behind me but it never works on the 4th jump of jump beef I had to cheat and use the wall to jump off of and I couldn't get past number 6 because I can't get the right kind of jump I just go straight up or not far enough
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>>123238937
No Seymour is
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mfw someone bet FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS on throyotech and ash walks out mid-game
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>>123239837
>walks out mid-game
And that is what tf2 competitive will be when it's released
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literally throwyotech
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i think 26dollar offered to gift me battleblock theater once
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>>123239837
what if they bet on themselves to lose and then walked out on the match
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dust and death when
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>>123238875
Strenght for Soldier is fucking OP
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>>123238949
Well, let's see.
4 is a wall jump, you can't get that distance with one rocket jump. Jump forward, then aim behind you to propel yourself off of the wall in midair.

On jump 6, do NOT hold W. This applies to all rocket jumping, actually - use A and D to move while you jump. Never, ever hold W, it kills your momentum.

For jump 6 you need to jump and slowly turn your mouse left while holding A. You don't need that much horizontal momentum. Airstrafing is the key to this jump, and all rocket jumps.

Don't rush it, take your time, and never give up.
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how would YOU fix gully last?
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>>123240686
bring back the water
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TEAM THROWLO UBER
Froyo currently 3-0 at the half on gullywash ever since ash left and seymour joined
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>>123241061
3-1*
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>>123241167
>currently
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>>123241256
tsu got their first point like 20 seconds after he posted it
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>>123241167
>at the half
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Had an idea to rebalance reserve shooter
>15% weapon switch speed
>+10% damage dealt
>remove minicrits
>-33% ammo
>grant it to Heavy
3/4 shotgun users can play with it, heavy gets a nice sidegrade, puff and shitters get a tiny nerf, soldier continues to not use it.

Y/N?

Also post engineers
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there's about 30 minutes left for anyone who's interested
tf2r.com/k1ixse6.html
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>>123241524
>puff and shitters get a tiny nerf
ok lets nerf puff pyros again and just make flames the only viable form of damage LMAO
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I have an idea to rebalance reserve shooter
>remove reserve shooter

Y/N?
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rebalance me


*falls over*
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POST A MERCENARY AND HAVE THE FASHION GUY R8
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how about just dont let pyro use it
its an okay-ish sidegrade for soldier
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>>123241587
Or maybe we could rework airblast to not kill momentum of players. Because airblasting a scout in the direction they are already moving should not slow them down.

And besides, that's a 5% damage difference, at close range it's pretty negligible. You can still airblast and 2 shot 5 classes with it.
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FROYO ash: After the loss, b4nny told me I was going to sit out the rest of the series due to my actions. I didn’t really want to play anymore and I didn’t like being disrespected like some sort of pawn, even as the newest (and arguably worst) player on the team. I demanded my league fees be reimbursed, which he refused, so I just left the roster.
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>>123241805
a bit of a stretch for a theme, don't you think?
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>>123241805
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>>123241954
lol what a child
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Well?
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>>123241805
finally, actual space attire rather than loosely space stuff
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>>123242158
>blizzard
>2015
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tsu cannot push last at all
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>regulars leaving tf2g because tf2 has gotten stale
>haven't opened it in months

What went wrong
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>>123242345
human/../dotsy/;/26dollar
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>kicked for racism
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>>123242410
/thread

faggot fags ruined this thread
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>>123241998
i mean yes and no, only way you could get away with this is literally only the plumbers pipe

not going to jew for a few ref forcing it but i thought itd be neat
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>>123241805
hey guy rate my guy
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i won a raffle
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>>123243403
me too
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Oh boy, time to go for a swim in ye olde jump map.
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Oh no.
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capt HATES me
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>have more damage than 200 tour
>get kicked
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9 decides which tf2g i ask for a dick pic
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>>123245445
me
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post cute drawings kind people did for you
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>>123245445
ask me
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>>123245445
magic max
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>>123245445
zed
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>>123245445
you don't have to ask me~
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>>123245445
dotsy
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>>123245516
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>>123245516
moody has some serious skilz
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>>123245516
i LOVE this one
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>>123245516
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>>123238667
who is carter?

did Ash really quit?
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>>123245445
charles barkley
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>>123245516
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>>123245516
I got this one.
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6 gets a loadout drawing!
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>>123246492
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>>123246492
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>>123246626
wow that was quick
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fuking faggot wont respond
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the never ending granary match
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>>123246791
i'll unban you from irc so you can ask there
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>>123247038
good idea. you've got a great head on your shoulders. i couldn't be more proud if you were my own son.
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>reading scrap.tf forums
>admins treat users like pieces of shit
what a surprise
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>>123246626
okay, here's a picture
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spy cap for the win
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>>123248345
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/a9/Medic_thanks01.wav?t=20100625230636
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/30088/ash-leaves-froyotech
> Unless I find a group of players that I’m friends with, who don’t want to scrim, and can still do well (which probably won’t happen), I’m not going to play.
>I don't want to practice or get better, I just want to win
What a little shit
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>>123248667
noticed that I missed a spot and it bothered me, here's a quickfix
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2000 hours and i can't scout for shit
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>>123248768
good riddance
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boys we have a trader
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I have an idea.

Let's add a new achievement-unlocked cosmetic into the game. New players love that shit, that's why the Gibus is so ubiquitous among new players.

How would you unlock it? A very basic jump map, I'm talking even easier than jump_beef. Show new players the absolute basics when it comes to movement in TF2. You would be locked into Soldier (Nothing wrong with sticky jumping, but there's a lot going on and you can't focus on airstrafing as much if you're a beginner) and you could unlock slightly more challenging courses by completing the previous ones, which would unlock new styles for your achievement cosmetic.

Why a jump map? Movement is one of the most important skills in TF2, and getting a good grip on it will make the game a lot easier to follow. Rocket jumping is one of those skills that translates to pretty much every other aspect of TF2. Every class benefits from knowing how to surf and airstrafe well. Put this jump map on the main menu and have the button flash a few times to catch your attention. Once you complete the beginner stage of the jump map, the button would go away.

Make the completion of this map one of the requirements for matchmaking.

Thoughts?
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what does the sniper say when he throws his piss?
I know it's something along the lines of "jay rarty!" but I can't really tell
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>>123249230
hooves away!
hey doroty!
hold up!
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>>123248768
whats his ID i wanna see if he will join my silver team.
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>friend attracts some /ssbg/ ironic shitter into some server we're on
>they subsequently block my friend on steam and remove them because my friend kept stabbing them and using really shit weapons
>said person was a pyro main
jesus christ someone tell me what the fuck is going on never mind you
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>>123249229
>Valve
>putting this much effort into matchmaking
Fat chance
Some intern will code up some shitty highlander queue system in a weekend, they'll toss it in and break something that won't get fixed for at least a year, then they'll slap a 5$ entry pass for free to players.
It'll make them millions.
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>>123249230
Jay Rodie was an old Australian PM who was known for his strength and patriotism
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cant wake up
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post good ideas

i like the concept of making scrubs learn the basics and i need to hear more ideas
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>>123250305
instead of having a button flash just fucking lump it into the soldier tutorial
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>>123250605
i have 2000 hours and have never done those
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>>123250305
Not a single player should be able to play the game before completing an engie tutorial.

Shit's insane like engies directly going for setting a nest at the end of a payload map and never leaving it until the inevitable loss occurs.
What the fuck.
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>>123252067
>mfw scout stands still
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>>123252067
fuck engineer
completely unfun class
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>6 scouts on enemy team
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>mfw when engineer doesnt pottis a dispenecer here
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Anyone have any good TF2 wallpapers?
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>>123254928
pic unrelated right
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>>123254969
It's my current wallpaper.
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>>123255039
>444x444
>current wall
buddy i know having a toaster is a hot tf2g meme
but damn

i'll dump what i have 1/x
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2/x
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>>123255936
AUT
>>123256015
ISM
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>>123256061
on
topic
helping others is not a bad thing 3/x
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desu this wallpaper is tops
4/x
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5/x
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6/x
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>>123254928
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I hate everyone who is better than me
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>>123257418
i hate it when someone better than me is in the same server as me and my tf2g crush
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last one from me
the rest are so-so
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>>123245516
when tigxr draws your loadout...
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>>123245516
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Someone buy me a tf2 wedding ring
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*buys human a wedding ring*
*is scared of 26dollar*
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>>123258268
tfw tf2g crush has a tf2 wedding ring
tfw will never buy him a tf2 wedding ring
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>>123258638
i could probably figure out who your tf2g crush is by process of elimination
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>>123258705
go for it
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>>123258820
emphasis on "could"
really not feeling up to it right now sorry
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>>123258865
a hint
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how long until b4nny goes on a shooting spree
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what goes good with the hellmet?
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>>123260415
my peniss
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>>123260415
what is helmet
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Hey sillies of tf2
Stumbled upon this and wanted to share it with whoever hasn't seen it.

(audio might be loud)
http://z0r.de/2266
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>>123261209
yeah im going to clikc that
fuck you
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>>123261291
Your loss
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>>123261209
>that link
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>>123261575
You're welcome
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>>123261209
don't click i got cancer and died
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>>123260004
Aida is your tf2g crush?
*gasps*
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What does /tf2g/ think about the Scotsman's Skullcutter ?
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>>123262282
who.ru
maybe
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>>123262701
its shit
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>Epsilon ded
>Froyotech ded
is TF2 finished?
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>>123262739
That's not important
If anything who.ru so I know the next big tf2g otp
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>>123262701
I kinda like it.

>>123263137
There's another campaign coming soon, and matchmaking is "coming soon". Doubt it.
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So how do killstreak weapons work? Do I just get one of those killstreak kits on the steam market and apply it to the weapon? Or can they also be dropped/uncrated somehow?
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>>123263307
You have to buy them, they don't get randomly dropped.
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>>123263307
You get Killstreak kits and fabricators (used to make Specialized and Professional kits) from the two cities MvM tour, and some can be found in crates.
You pop it on your weapon, and it counts your killstreak. Specialized killstreaks have a coloured shine on them, and professional weapons have a shine and you get fancy eye effects while you're on a streak.
If you want a specific kit you shouldn't farm MvM or try to unbox it, buy it from the market or from traders.
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>>123263367
>>123263440
Thanks, bros. I'll do that.
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>>123263567
Use it on a strange weapon not a regular one
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>>123263195
it doesn't matter since we don't talk much
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antmeat
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>>123263886
>>123263567
Actually, just buy a strange killstreak weapon on the market it's usually cheaper than buying the weapon and the kit separately
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baby dont hyrt me
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What are the best tf2g's from USA?
Would be cool to have a friendly 6v6 match with the best from each side of the ocean.
1st map on EU server 2nd map on USA server so that it's fair-
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>>123267802
EU team

Scout: sage
Scout: sops?
Roamer: ???
Pocket: ???
Demoman: ???
Medic: fsidu
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>>123267802
america isnt USA only fag
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>>123267907
>sops on Scout
He plays roamer though.
And Chan is better.
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>>123267928
NA then
I always take for granted that there's gonna be some Canadians in competitions from the USA
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>>123242410
>dotsy
i didn't do anything, people always shitpost about me and bring my name up
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>>123268038
Dotsy's one of the few tf2gs I like tbeeh
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>>123268195
oh
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>>123267907
i play roamer, i havent played scout for more than a few minutes in about 500 hours
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>>123267907
xenosbid can play scout
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I am best tf2g in NA I can play anything but medic for the 6s team
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can some1 post the kkk pyro thanks
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>playing tuba
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TF2 is fucking finished, valve better cough up matchmaking if they want to save this trainwreck
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>>123267979
>>123267907
>>123267979
>>123268336
>>123268469
Scout: xenosbid
Scout: sage
Roamer: Chan
Pocket: Sops
Demoman: ???
Medic: fsidu
This is better
sorry sops for not putting you on your main but its about filling spots for now
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>>123269138
as long as the map is viaduct ill play pocket lol
psyche is a good demo
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>>123269138
>xenosbid on scout over chan

lmao
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>>123269243
dotsy should play scout he's crazy
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na team:
scout ??
scout ??
roamer ??
pocket ??
demo ??
medic christopher viva
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>>123269429
dotsy on scout
viva can't even play med against mvm bots what the fuck are you thinking
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>>123269243
I thought you said Chan was better at ROAMER

Then it would be something like
Scout: Chan
Scout: xenosbid
Roamer: Sops
Pocket: Sage
Demoman: ???
Medic: fsidu
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>"Yomi, which is the Japanese word for 'reading the mind of the opponent'." - David Sirlin, 1976 - 2008
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>>123270878
how do bookmarks work on prec? like what do they do differently than just the normal demo file
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>>123271045
they make a little note in a file called 'KillStreaks.txt' at the tick you bookmarked.
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>>123271142
i see, thanks ZZ
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best crate to open?
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>>123270878
>soldier main thinking he's hot shit for hitting the ground
laffin2atmosphere
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Well that's sad

Rip tf2

Thanks valve
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>>123272057
HUH??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
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>/tf2g/ slow and full of annoying tripfags
>game barely gets updated
>reddit is not a choice, obviously
>professional teams are disbanding and dying
>OW has a 90 fov limit, no scoreboard, 20 tick server
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>>123272481
>/tf2g/ slow and full of annoying tripfags

spoken well crona
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>>123272481
>tf2 dies thanks valve
>overwatch is garbage and will never be competitive thanks blizzard
>there is only csgo left to play
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>>123272540
not him, but avatar fagging is not the same thing as trip fagging.

First of all, anyone can pretend to be an avatar fag by having the same filename of the same image as someone else.

And at least Crona doesn't 24/7 dump emotional issues on a general team fortress 2 thread, we have /r9k/ for that.

It really boggles me why people think the best place to post *sleeps*, *cries* or *I'm an attention whoring faggot who can't shut the fuck up just end my life* is on their favorite video game thread.

Better yet is the mods who absolutely REFUSE to take care of this shit, next janitor application that rolls around I'll apply so I can personally put those shit posts in the trash the moment they arrive.
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>>123273151
>not him
>proceeds to post tons of text about it and have an interest in defending crona
sure dude
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>>123273202
tripfags in general are annoying. I doubt there exists a tripfag who honestly isn't craving loads of attention and admiration from 4chan.

It's a fucking anonymous image board, why would you have an avatar?
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/wave
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>>123273151
Hitler for Janny

He does it for free
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>people get mad at things on the internet
heh
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>>123273723
>seeking attention on 4chan
heh
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>>123273815
but im not seeking attention on 4chan
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>>123273927
it's funny because you're a tripfag but you just said that you weren't seeking attention

on an anonymous image board, you decided to give yourself a name and clarification of who you are, not on a regular forum with names, but on the anonymous image board

fucking delusional
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oh no bunch of pasty nerds disbanded (also b4nny is a loser irl just watch his commentaries in which he stutters like a fag lol)
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>>123274047
yeah well people like you clearly dont like my posting, you can just filter me that way
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>>123274047
are you okay
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>>123274184
literally the only teams tf2 had just fucking died within less than 24 hours

you can thank valve for completely abandoning and shitting on this when it could have been one of the greatest comp game ever with a proper matchmaking and community like csgo

the fucking retarded outdated 6v6 with classlimits shit didn't help this shit community either
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i love to eat dog shit
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>>123274554
ewwwwwwwwww
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>>123274489
>retarded outdated 6v6 with classlimits
Yeah I sure love playing against 4 demomen and 2 medics :^)
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Medic mains, what do you use in your primary slot?
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>>123274554
hey broswag
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>>123274554
hey jessecar
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Crusader's crossbow is the only medic primary
TF2 will never have a good comp format, maybe fun for 10% of the playerbase to dick around in but completely inaccessible to casuals which is the main factor in determining what game gets comp support
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>>123274665
>>123274947
yeah, thanks valve

>2007-2013
>we don't care about comp at all and will never balance the game around anything other than 12vs12!
>2013-now
>h-hey guys the game isn't dying come back please. we will balance some weapons broken in highlander
>maybe even 6vs6! look!
>right now
>game completely fucking dead
>guys look matchmaking soon it will be good

fucking lmao
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>>123275070
>game dead
nice meme
comp is dead, the game is not
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>>123272481
>the 2 top teams that have been winning titles in their respective continent for like 5 years disband
>bad
lol
we can finally have less predictable results in ESEA and ETF2L
im hyped to see what happens. In Europe the current champion is now [R]eason
>>123274489
>classlimits
>retarded
someone wasnt around when demo had classlimit 2
either that or you are literally retarded
>shit community
We literally do everything. We mentor players, we promote the game, we put money for prizes.
The bigger game communities are pretty cancerous in comparison
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>>123275198
90% playing are shitbrained maximum casuals that are just f2p tryouts

the rest are losers on trading servers and other retarded shit, not playing the game, bots etc

the there's the tiny 1% that cry every time they play on dying community servers every evening, hoping the game will stay alive somehow
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>>123275251
tf2 is boring to watch in general for competitive

Same damn rollouts, same classes every game, the only variation being kritz or uber

it's literally a symmetric DM match, that's boring as fuck to watch. I couldn't give less of a shit about competitive TF2 if I'm not playing because nothing new has occurred since 2010
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>>123275198
theres over 5000 people playing comp every week around the world
at least 1300 players just in Europe, and only counting active ETF2L 6s team
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>>123275506
www.twitch tv/sideshow/v/25761944

I want A/D games, 5cp is not the game that should make up for most of comp tf2 maps.
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>>123275506
I don't think it's boring
I loved the matches in i52 and the recent matches in ETF2L were pretty awesome too, specially Full Tilt vs Epsilon
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>>123275251
It's a bad thing because the "Top" level of play isn't really top anymore. Some players are leaving, and the rest will be picked up by bad teams. The "glory days" of actual high level play are over - have been over since LG vs mix^ stopped being a thing.
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>>123275506
>it's literally a symmetric DM match

Fucking this

6vs6 with outdated arbitrary class limits killed tf2

Highlander could have been a thing but valve abandoned tf2

I think it's too late for matchmaking in tf2, probably won't do shit
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>>123275635
serious question, how do you remain interested?

In games like Dota, they discuss the draft on certain pros who have personalities that are interesting to the playerbase

when I hear "oh clockwerk's a fantastic scout" what does that even mean? He can aim well? He catches the enemy team with their pants down?

TF2 is a DM game with a bit of teamplay focus. It's hard to tell the difference between a plat scout and an invite scout, because all the spectator can see is the scout hitting his shots and not dying, or missing his shots and dying. With games like Dota or counterstrike, it's quite obvious what the other team did to win the game, where in TF2 it just looks like one team got mid and the other didn't.


Honestly if Overwatch had a lot more DM to it, then I would be on that game fully. There's just no damage from sticky jumping as junkrat, also infinite ammo, as well as having a full magazine reload then individual pills. He's still fun as af as is the rest of the game, but still it needs a lot more DM
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>>123275683
almands
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>>123276063
TF2 has a huge team focus compared to Quake
Maybe the team focus is not obvious when watching USA teams since they are way more aggresive than EU teams.
I don't know, theres just things that you don't expect in comp TF2, things that just look awesome to perform.
Backcaps, airshots, clutch plays... it makes me want to play TF2 more
In counter-strike its way more individual based and wayy more repetitive. I must say I do not enjoy playing csgo much but I do watch it from time to time. There's just a much lower "teamplay skill" gap or "gamesense" as we call it. The amount of team synergy required is minimal in comparison.
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>>123276806
wah wahh
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post tf2 class power rankings
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>>123276806
Remember the beta in 2007? Where the was just fun and simple? And now we have these shitty unlocks, terrible hats, bad maps, terrible playerbase, valve doesn't care

Blizzard had good timing with overwatch
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I've got about 9.77 refined. Can anyone think of a sniper set for me? Stock stranges included.
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>>123277220
>mfw used to have position 370 as med and 1500 as scout
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>>123277220
reminder
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>>123277228

>remember beta
>150+ damage insta-detonated stickies, 6 pipes, and rollers that exploded on contact

yeah I remember
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>>123277543
>>123277409
>>123277228
>>123277220
>>123276806
>>123276063
>>123276000
>>123275825
>>123275606
>>123275506
okay /tf2g/, how DO we fix this quagmire of a competitive scene?

And give me your most serious replies. Stuff like "remove pyro" is an obvious nono for valve

you can make up a new mode even
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>some compfags nobody cares about quit
>thinking that this means tf2 is going to die
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Reminder that Highlander is the superior game mode.
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>>123277908
>some compfags people care too much about quit
>chances of new teams winning and more fresh new teams taking their place
>"wahhh wahhh, come back froyopsilon, tf2 dead ;_; rip"
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>>123277987
HL is fun but logistically its a nightmare
>have to get 9 guys to be online at the same time for scrims
>have to get 9 guys to go to LAN to compete
>have to share prize money between 9 people

I'm not gonna argue wich gamemode is better because it actually doesn't matter
You play what you want, everyone does!
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>>123278395
>prize money
>tf2
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*wakes up*
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1 soldier
2 scout
3 demo
4 sniper
5 medic
6 heavy
7 engineer
8 spy

POWER GAP

9000 pyro
9001 shit
9002 cancer

POWER GAP

10000 demoknight
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>>123278604
>things I like in my pub games: the list
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>>123277857
lets say you have 6 comp maps to choose from when you pick and ban maps as a team

2 of them are 5cp
2 of them are koth
2 of them are A/D
but we need one more good koth map and one more good A/D map
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>>123279665
Lakeside and viaduct who the fuck cares about shitty cp and ad
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>>123279829
lakeside is great imo but its gonna have to be edited to fit 6s and to be less chokey imo, and less sniper inducing

5cp is fun to play but even then it has such aids moments
like imagine i just capped the enemies 2nd point, i can just hold it instead of pushing the same way they can hold their last without being penalized

while a/d promotes stuff to happen just like koth does, action has to happen in a/d or else you lose
gpit isnt a great map but a/d as a gamemode itself is good

koth is literally the best gamemode right now because its one point, action is always there, you have to push in or you lose
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>>123279665
I don't think theres enough players in comp that like A/D
I do like Gravelpit a lot myself but it doesn't seem like a viable format for comp. Now a Gravelpit adaptation with 5cp format, that would be pretty interesting.
Theres already a map trying to adapt the wonderul Gravelpit B to 5cp - the fact that A is almost impossible to defend makes 30% of gravelpit just dumb www.teamfortress.tv/28776/cp-drudgery-5cp
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>>123280078
read >>123280070 im too tired to type it again

literally whats gonna hurt me if i wait for the enemy to break?
I rollout to mid without needing a strat because i cant know what the enemy is planning to do and they cant know my plan either
so all that happens is everyone gets to mid, smashes each other on the head and then it gets to the aids part of waiting for an uber play to go through choke and getting last
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>>123280325
but the only good koth map viaduct is aids for soldiers
I rollout to mid as fast as I can, although I know that doesn't neccesarly mean we will win the fight. If we crush them, we can probably push to 2nd and then just use to last and win specially in a map like cp_granary
If their med is still alive we will probably have an uber advantage and just slowly push to 2nd and try to get last
I personally don't think koth is a bad gamemode but 5cp is just as good
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Did clockwork ever get his i55 money?
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>>123280873
>aids for soldiers
i main roamer, im supposed to suffer the most, yet i enjoy koth viaduct way more than 5cp because its always ticking on the clock and its a lot of dm

meanwhile 5cp, lets imagine its two top invite teams
if one team rolls the other on mid they most likely will get to last too, and spectators - especially newer ones dont enjoy it and cant figure out why its interesting
if both teams are equal and consistent (which they are more often in higher levels) it will be a slow, boring steady push through chokes, that anyone who commits and gets fucked loses in

it comes down again to no one, literally no one getting hurt by holding the points they have right now and waiting for the other team to fuck up

another lame aspect is no strats that you roll from spawn to mid on mid fights, because just like i said theres nothing you can do to know what the other team will do

>>123281170
yes
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>Wake up
>/tf2g/ discussing TF2
We did it guys. We shitposted so hard we had a variable overflow and reached negative shitposting.
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>>123276063
The problem is how difficult to read the teamplay is. There's still a huge focus on it and it's extremely refined after 8 years of barely anything changing. It's just not obvious to a new player, like how Melee makes no sense to someone who doesn't know what ATs are.
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>>123281998
Don't jinx it, retard.
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>>123276063
>Watch Plat Scout get out of position
>Watch Invite Scout focus on him like a laser
Admittedly you need to spend time playing the game to see this stuff, but you start noticing things like this even if you're not at that level.
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>>123282190
And that's a problem because spectator counts are what make a game live or die. If shitters don't understand the game and it's totally different than the tf2 they're used to, the scene is just not going to grow. We would need MM to be really successful and a lot of really talented casters if this game is going to grow.
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>>123282407
thank mr heavy
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Alright guys, story time from UGC Gold HL

>Final match of the season
>Deciding match for positioning in the top 3
>Try a cheese flank strat game 1
>It works
>Win game
>Try it again
>It works
>Try it again
>It works A THIRD TIME

Professional TF2 everybody.
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>>123282631
>gold
>professional
lmao
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>>123240519
Strength for scout is far better
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>>123238875
Strength Scout
Haste Soldier
Vampirism Pyro
Regeneration Demoman
King Heavy
Regeneration Engineer
King Medic
Precision Sniper
Knockout Spy
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27484222
;^)
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*desperately acts like I have emotional issues to gain attention from others but just end up looking autistic*
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>>123283362
I can't imagine any other reason to get that hat other than to be le irony man
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>>123283567
i got it for betting, it was sold to me for a pretty cheap price, but on saloon it is worth 79keys
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