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Tiny murderous hoburgs edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE (embed)

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.

There is no functional, up-to-date pirate version.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the pastebin
>Read the memes

>I want to play X
Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man

Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor

Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod

Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca

Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum

Edgy Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
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First for thematic OP-pic, finally.
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>>123186378

Sure. But as you learn the magic system, you won't need to be scared of enemy sacreds like that. Earth Meld + F9 archers = Dead avoidance sacreds, and likely a dead sarzzig. Cirium's are vulnerable to Destruction, which would have been step 2, and then you could have cleaned up Tissith with Earth Attack.

I mean, maybe not that easily. But earth meld and free flaming arrows is not exactly small potatoes for dealing with enemy sacreds. Even cirium would have fallen to SUSTAINED FIREPOWER if you'd handled the positioning right.
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>trollking
>stygian bath
>firebrand
Basically impossible to kill.
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>>123187309
>1 Finger of Death
>1 Enslave Mind
>1 whatever else charms or deals 1-999 damage
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What does Stygian Bath do
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How do I transfer an artifact from one unit to another in CoE4?
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So yeah I really like these nationgen nations. I think nationgen's come a long way since I last used it, and has gotten way better.

I'm probably going to sign up for or start a nationgen game after this one, or while it's endgameing.

The whole 'generate lots of nations then pick the powerful/cool ones' idea is pretty good too.
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>>123187514
Go into transfer units mode (t), select the unit with the artifact, click RMB, click on the artifact, click on the unit.
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>>123187564
i want to play ULM in that map.
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>>123187564
Someone needs to do the thing that was discussed a while ago.

>nationgen up a big batch of nations
>everyone picks one nation
>one week for everyone to write custom fluff/unit names/descriptions for their chosen nation
>admin edits the mod with the fluff
>play
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>>123187983

I'd be up for that. I could probably write in KO's style and do some writeups for anyone who wanted to play but cbf writing fluff.
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Piratefag, are you there? Let's try it again.

CoE4 MP game, medium map, random society, score graphs off.

Only for pirates with v 4.00, yarr.

82.140.238.134
port 7272
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>>123188542
Yeah I'm here.

Is the server up right now?
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>>123189114
Yes. Get over here.
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>>123189175
I tried to join, but when I click OK it goes from "Connecting Server" to "Pinging Server" and back to the Network menu in less than a second.
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>>123189349
Yes, I get a connection, but then it suddenly bakcs away. Try again now.
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>>123189175
>>123189349
Ah, something happened. It says "Wating for game status" now.
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>>123189498
Don't get too excited. I just restarted the server.

Also, what did you use as your last 4 digits of the CD-key?
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>>123189612
1611 IIRC

My birthday. :3
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>>123189797
Then we should be fine. Try again.
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>>123189893
Im in. :3
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>>123189957
Are you going to play random, or is it just me lagging?
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>>123188243
writing up a nation might be a fun exercise
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>>123190172
Yeah I'm equally shit with everything so I might as well be random.
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>Start the game
>8 sea dogs near my citadel
It's going to be a short game, isn't it?
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Oh jeez I'm Hoburgs.

420 crossbow it.
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I'm getting lucky here. Hoburgers beware.
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Jesus Christ, having only 2 action points is such bullshit.
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>>123190935
I hope you also started somewhere in north or in the desert.
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>>123190503
Neutrals aren't that aggressive, they wander around instead of trying to capture castles

Also, as long as you have castle walls (Druid for example doesn't, but then again, neutrals really aren't a problem for druid), 1 archer can probably deal with them
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Fuck I need more weed.

WHERE THE FARMS AT?
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>>123191364
ded
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ANTS!
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>>123187428
Trolls have high MR
Now meteors on the other hand will fuck them up
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>>123191589
I guess I'll have to rush you or something. The map is not that big.
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>>123191693
You might not even have to.

Fucking elephants.
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>>123191693
>>123191905

I'm enjoying this banter I think a lot more than I would enjoy actually playing coe
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>>123192020
It's pretty enjoyable. Feels like playing Heroes 3 hot-seat back in the 00-ies.
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All_Yesterdays Turn 3? What the holy moly fuck is going on? Did you send the turn timer to 12 hours?
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>>123192439
nope, this is an anomaly. I know about 5 players still hadn't sent in their turns.
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We nature now, niggas.
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>>123192769
Better prepare for the storm, maggot.

Also, you should probably stop grabbing your dick between turns.
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>>123189349
>>123189483
Me and a friend are having the same issue with our multiplayer game. How do you fix this?
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well, now the game no longer exists. Time to contact Llamaserver
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>>123193073
I dunno, try restarting the server, and then let him connect to it first. Worked for us.

Typical Illfraud programming.
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>>123193086
Host is mad that he did not start on 3 farms.
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>>123193240
The starts are all fixed
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>>123193005
I'll ask ur mum to stop sucking my dick so I can play faster.
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>>123193314
Then he mad about shitty thrones next his ass.
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>>123193462
Thanks, m8. I appreciate it.
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>>123193524
none of the thrones were visible to anyone yet
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>Major Summoning
>This shows up
Thanks, Obama.
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What's going on with CastleDoc? We were on turn 32 and then it suddenly skipped to turn 34. And it won't take the 2h file for turn 34, saying that it needs the turn file for 33.
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>>123194346
something similar seems to have happened to another game. Just a heads up, I tried to rollback the turn and the game disappeared. I've sent an email so hopefully things will clear up.
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Hey, the turn file for turn 2 isn't doing much for me

It's literally showing me turn 1 instead of turn 2

What's up?
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>>123194157

Better than getting a ghost. Banshees are shit too even though they're kind of fun at first.
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>>123194519
game exploded, no longer exists. Hopefully fixable.
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The good news is that turn 3 was actualy turn 2 in disguise.

The bad news is the rollback may have fucked it up, CastleDoc IS FINE.
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Apparently, we're playing Empire.

I will enjoy sending those pathetic fools to Hades.
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>>123195465
You can't have the cities. Can't grow weed in them anyway.

Beware, I'm recruiting RABBITS.
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>>123195686
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Since y'all keep forgetting to put it in the op:

dom4.22
mega.nz/#!3wpkWIKQ!v1THky_egFtEua0kiZQ-aPbVjCKgWRHwrHMEGD6YFvc
coe4.00
mega.nz/#!q94VwDgA!HSuFL3qE4wZhUHLXK_Wko-5fo8R30Bdz5FZN1GJ1NJk
Use 5061 as the last 4 digits of the key instead of the random numbers it says to use.
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>>123195842
FEAR THEM
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>>123196114
So, what are they good for?

Also, my BIG HUGE HUMUNGOUS CARRION just fucking EXPLODED over bandtis' bodies.
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>Use 5061 as the last 4 digits of the key instead of the random numbers it says to use.
Why?
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>>123196264
You actually don't need to do this. I used 3214, the other guy used his birthday, and here we are playing MP together.
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Wait, Castledoc is broken too, it won't accept that turn 33 is turn 34.
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>>123196240
>So, what are they good for?
I dunno.

I'm starting to think Hoburgs are not very good at anything.
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>>123196264
No idea. Doesn't seem to be necessary.
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>>123196114
Uh does the bite have a special effect?
Am I going to see some 1-999 damage shit?
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>>123196546
We'll likely never find out because they all died to crossbow fire last turn.
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>>123196385
A few people have reported that the crack didn't work with random digits, and 5061 was the last bit of the key used to make the crack, and is "guranteed" to work.
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>>123196546
>>123196240
If you buff them they'll do damage, and they're quite cheap. Useless unbuffed though.
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>>123196546

Better get that Holy Hand Grenade ready just in case.
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Hahaha oh wow.

Standing on a frozen river is not a smart idea when it's about to become spring.

RIP
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>>123196803
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>>123196803
Spamming Messenger Crows as a Druid leads to a LOT of drowned unit messages every Spring.
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>>123197237
>Druid
>Not Voice of El
>Archangel has drowned
>Archangel has drowned
>Archangel has drowned
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>>123197398
Thanks for the great AI, Illwinter.
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>>123197537
What do you mean? It's clearly on par with our intelligence, see >>123196803
Illwinter should be lauded for making such realistic AI.
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>>123197669
Unlike the AI, a human player won't quickly make the same mistake again.
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what the fuck happened to All_Yesterdays
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>>123198760
The admin deleted it because he lost his entire expansion party on turn 1.
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>>123198837
>>123198760
It fucked up, the admin is talking to Llamabeast to fix it.
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Give us more info, necro/hoburg CoE4 guys.
Have things started heating up?
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>>123198979
Playing Hoburgs is slowly starting to make me hate this game. I'm literally getting zero mages and all I do every turn is recruit more crossbows and move one step because Hoburgs are fucking slow.

Also we haven't even met yet. I wrecked one of his graveyards but I haven't seen any units.
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>>123198979
We're slowly closing in on each other. But he's playing super turtling character, so I guess there's no end in sight.
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>>123197869
not necessarily

first thing i did in CoE4 was get my shit wrecked by deer ("i'm sure my capital will be fine for a turn or two")
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>>123199993
That's a common mistake, yeah.

Along with stuff like "I'm sure my Troll King can handle these Dwarves on his own."
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Toot toot.

Sir, do you have any idea how undead you were going?
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>>123201116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e5KpKUgSVA
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Why did a bird just explode in my face?
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>>123201116
what are ya gonna do?
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>>123201450
phoenixes explode
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>>123201450
It has posion cloud special ability. Expect more in the future, because I fucked up a lot of major summonings.
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>>123201116
>>123161252
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I have the most cunning plan right now.

Cross your fingers.
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Welp, since yesterday is down, i got a question.

So CoE4 is it shit? Or not too shitty?
And it looks like a rougelike, is that correct?
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>>123202912
It's like a pocket version of Dominions with some roguelike elements.

It's kinda neat, but not worth full price IMO.
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>>123202912
Ehh it's been described as a "strategy roguelike" and it's vaguely like that, but you control multiple commanders (you start with 2), combat isn't directly controlled, and you run around the map capturing towns and stuff to increase income, like heroes of might and magic.

It ain't too bad, but it does have some pacing problems, especially in MP - things take forever to get going and can move slowly especially because non-simultaneous turns combined with low action points, large maps, and a lot of terrain slowing you down.

And I also think it's a bit 'overpriced', myself.
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>>123202912
It's stupid and silly and I have a blast with it. It is very roguelike, yes.
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Details:

Game name: All_Yesterdays
Nation: Early Era Therodos
Turn number: 1

Who's sent their turn in:
Oceania Waiting for 2h file
Therodos 2h file received
Agartha Waiting for 2h file
Yomi Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
Marverni Waiting for 2h file
Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Caelum Waiting for 2h file
Berytos Waiting for 2h file
Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim Waiting for 2h file
Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria Waiting for 2h file
Xibalba Waiting for 2h file
Machaka Waiting for 2h file
Lanka Waiting for 2h file
Sauromatia Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
Ur Waiting for 2h file
C'tis Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim Waiting for 2h file
Hinnom Waiting for 2h file
Pelagia Waiting for 2h file
Helheim Waiting for 2h file
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>>123203637
Start sending dem turn requests to remind everyone.
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>>123203637
thanks based stupido
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one thing that illfraud doesn't deserve, but could be fucking awesome is a youtube series with the lore of every nation, and how they change between eras.
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Okay i am getting stupid where do you enter the cd key for coe4?
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>>123204207
When you launch it for the first time.
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Fuck why are Hogmeisters so suicidal?

>hurr I am the leader!
>I lead from the front!
>everyone I lead moves slowly but I'm fast!
>I can't see anything wrong with this!
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>>123204207
Fuck that, found it.
I am just a retard
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>>123204207
It should ask you when you launch the game
If not, you already have one in %appdata%\coe4 in the "coe4key" file (just open it up in a text editor)
Assuming you have Windows, that is.
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>>123204289
High Lords are as stupid if you play Baron. Especially if you just want them to kill some deers, and they die, leaving 20 cavalrymen without leadership.
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Shitty fucking hoburgs.

Transformin my precious villages into the fucking ghettos without any crime whatsoever.

How am I supposed to get criminals' hands?
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>>123204792
Stop gentrification now.

Hoburg lives matter!

Also goddamn, do Hoburgs simply not get new mages at all? I haven't had a single mage recruit all game long, and the one I started with drowned.
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>>123204979
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>>123204957
>literally one turn after I post this I get a multiculturist

Thanks Obama.
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CoE4 mod support when
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RIP my army.

Would you be terrible upset if I surrendered now? I'm not going to win this and Hoburgs are fucking awful, so I really don't feel like dragging this out unnecessarily.
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FUCKING AMBUSHES!

And holy shit are the controls autistic.

But i think i like it
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>>123205578
Sometime in December IIRC
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>>123205682
If you wish.

We can play another one if you like.
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When you see someone fighting elves, and you're like yeah! Sock it to them!

And attack the elves, and then 2 turns later, that person sends you all their gold and gems

And you're like 'this was a mistake I regret making'
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>>123205827
Maybe some other day, it's almost midnight and I've got shit to do tomorrow.
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>>123205960
I wonder why your units didn't stay in Hades though. Would've been more fun that way.

GG.
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So how does one play All_Yesterdays? Will it be working soon?
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>>123204979
>>123205138
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>>123206070
Resend your turn 1.
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RIP Solvis, you will be remembered.
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>>123206501
No, don't just resend it. Download the new file and do it over manually, or you run the risk it'll just fuck up again.
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>>123203910
I'd be keen to do something like that
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>>123206862
It didn't fuck up due to the turns, it fucked up due to Llamabeast doing something to the server!
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>>123207018
Better safe than sorry.
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>>123207239
>>123207018
Resend turn 1 then? or was turn 1 actually turn 2? i am confused
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>>123202912
Cost me 19 dollars. I already have over an hour per dollar spent.

It's very good. You just need to realize that often your starting position is shit and spamming end turn while sitting on your 3 or 4 income/resource buildings is the best thing until you can make either another army or make some tier 2 summons.

Or you play warlock, get a phoenix then wait for the enemy doomstack to get itself wiped out in spring after sitting on a iced river. Then you use phoenix to cap everything. Congrats you can now get powerful.

Simply holding up and staying alive often leads to over half the ai killing themselves.
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Where were you when the forces of Firey Justice held back the forces of the Dark Lord at the battle of Iron Peaks?

Also how the fuck do I prevent my mages from dying to stray arrows?
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>>123207583
Turn 3 was really turn 2, but the admin rolled back to turn 1.
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>>123207725
Is this AI?
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>>123207790
I'm far too much of a pleb to play multiplayer
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>>123208074
>able to beat undead doomstacks
>too pleb for the multiplayer here
Pick only one, you'll be fine.
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>>123208074
You've got yourself caught in a Scrub's Paradox.

You want to get better before playing multiplayer, but you have to play multiplayer in order to get better.
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>>123208074
Just play. Worst case scenario, you just get crushed. Best case scenario, you become a new meme.
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>>123208707
>this still gets posted.
Just goes to show how absolutely rekt he was.
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>>123209418
hi ulm
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>>123208329
>>123208359
>>123208707
I'll probably have somebody smear me all over the floor but okay, next time somebody posts a game ITT I'll hop in
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>>123207691
stop giving advice, jeanwulf
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>>123208707
Heh, I remember this.

Didn't he attack into high enemy dominion or something?
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>>123209478
Sorry english is my only language but I'm american.
I meant how rekt ulm was not how rekt the poster was.
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>>123208707
Also one PD[/spoiler}
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>>123209626
>someone's experiences in a difficult situation are not allowed to be used as advice

It was just a little tale about what can happen so there is no point giving up at all unless you lose your goetic master to a deer.
Which totally hasn't happened to me before.
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>>123209828

the leader dude caught an arrow and ran off, and then the statues died due to no magic leadership on-field
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>>123209828
>>123210115
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>>123209638
He attacked into high enemy dominion after trashtalking the water player for being a scrub.
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>>123210661
kek
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>>123210661

Spawning 1d6 jotun wolves should really take down any 1 pd.

Wolf likely caught an arrow, or that's the old wolf that didn't spawn jotun wolves.
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>>123207732
So what shall i do now? Request new turn file? Resend my old one?
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>>123211391

1. delete everything in the save folder

2. request new file

3. do turn

4. email new 2h file

5. pray to the old gods
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>>123211320
Spawning 1d6 wolves wouldn't really help much if he was at 10hp and just got cleaved in the face by mounted commander getting turn 1 or some shit.
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>>123212226

It starts the battle with 1d6 JOTUN wolves. fear 5, 40 hp, etc. Starts the battle. They're there turn 1.

If it died it either caught an arrow, or was scripted to run in, or it only rolled 1 wolf and that wolf got luckily killed by the 1 PD without the PD getting scared and running off. A Jotun Herse might do that.
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so did moggers get banned in vanheim and why was in for spamming boco no pico pictures?
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>>123213356
no, stop trying to stir up drama.
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>>123213356
>spamming boco no pico pictures
nothing wrong with that
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>>123206769
You honestly have no idea how relieved I was when I saw that message.
I didn't really have a plan to deal with that monstrosity so I just figured I'd throw as much magic shit at him as I could and pray for something to stick.

Mind hunt seems pretty goddamn amazing though.
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And Lemurias true plan has been revealed! To get gangbanged for some reason?
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>>123214127

Mind hunt requires heaps of gems to make work in penetration gear, and sometimes your S4 guy will get feebleminded.

A decent SC will ignore it entirely. It's two MR negates checks.

What it's largely good for is wiping out non-stealth thugs (like flying ones) or group leaders for raid parties.
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>>123214652
More ghosts for Hades.
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>>123214824
It seems to be, I'm going to just carry on with my stuff, my land is next to Lermuria's only via sea so others can go round and all
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Does anyone have death gems?
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>>123214678
>'s two MR negates checks.
Soul slay/mind burn is one check, but where's the second coming from?
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>>123215341

>burden of time

That certainly sounds like it sucks for everyone who isn't a) an elf b) having an average unit turnover of about 6 months.

Note to self: Send death gems to lemuria.
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>>123215881
>tfw high cost human age units with no access to Lemuria.
Fuck shit dicks piss.
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>>123214678
Speaking of non-stealth thugs, had a game a while back where I was having some serious trouble dealing with heliophagus thugs and couldn't figure out what the hell to do besides ignore them or try to guess where he would attack next. Is there anything you can actually do against stealth thugs?
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>>123190878
>be necromancer
>start near old castle
>start near mine and village
wow
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>>123216346
Whom are you, friend?
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>>123216438
Mind hunt will target stealthy units, but I think it's the only ritual which does so and has a decent chance of killing a thug/SC.

You're pretty much limited to guessing where they will go. Using patrollers (with a force which can kill the thug) can help as well, since that makes it harder for them to stealth around.
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Is Llamaserver tripping balls? You didn't seriously forcehost to turn 3 in less than 24 hours, right?
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>>123216941
no one in particular.
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>>123217124
READ THE THREAD AND LLAMASERVER POST.
>>123217139
The guy on the internet who draws pictures of those dames?
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W-why did Castle Doctrine suddenly jump from turn 32 to 34?
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>>123217256
READ THE THREAD AND LLAMASERVER, IF YOU'RE ALSO AY ERMOR THEN GOD HELP YOUR ASS FOR I SHALL NOT.
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>>123217256
because git gud
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>>123217216
>dames
...right
also it's nobody in particular and I don't really like him
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>>123217346
Nah. I am, on the other hand, Stale Vanhiem.
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>>123217367
Dammit, I only remembered the cap from TG about him.
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Ulm has 6 stales, can the admin please finally set him to AI
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>>123217684
never understood why /tg/ and /d/ were so close back then
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>>123218403
Similar interests. And stuff that was banned from /d/ was often posted on /tg/.
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>>123218381
ohayoooooooo /domrlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
let's play our best today!!!!!
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>>123219075
/domrlg/
is there some kind of crossthread between the two ?
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>>123219276

i posted the message about stales in mapmaking to the roguelike thread by mistake, since i have them both open all the time
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Anyone got any S gems to trade for air?
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>>123219276
I'm just gently teasing him for a mistaken crosspost.

>>123219370
I also keep them both open most of the time.
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>>123219075
while you're here how to get gud at one way heroics? got as a free gift from a pal
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>>123219730
I don't actually know, I have neither played it myself nor overheard others talking shop about it.
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>>123219730
OWH is so fucking good
play on normal/hard, not easy, or you will learn bad habits, and play a bard and get the king/princess/mercenary special quest
playing with party members i easier early on
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>>123219730
uwaaaaaaa~ \^0^/
sauce?
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>>123220630
I'm 99.99% sure it's from this
https://vndb.org/v417
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>>123219730
become friends with the demon lord
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Only Kailasa, Vanheim and Mictlan left.

I wanted the new turn before going to bed ;_;
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Apparently Llamabeast was fiddling with some code and several games were affected

Turn 1 just needs to be submitted, no turns beyond that occurred. As suggested, the cleanest way would be to download the latest .trn file and redo the first turn, though submitting the same .2h file if you already did should work.
Thankfully it's just the first turn, so it's up to you.
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>>123223467
>Game never reaches turn 2, always resetting back to 1
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>>123224330
>A L L Y E S T E R D A Y S
It couldn't have happened to a better game desu
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>>123224469
holy shit
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>>123224469
Truly Llamaserver is the first AI, and via game names manipulates us into ironic situations (NoMemes being memrific, nostalers waiting for two weeks only for Mitclan to stale, stalewarriors having everyone go AI, etc)
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>>123223402
O-okay I can try to take my turn 'soon'
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>can't not produce mages or else I don't research as quickly
>can't not spend money on forts or else I can't produce even more mages
>end up with 3x as many mages as infantry
pls help I do this to myself every game
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>>123227198
Is it working?
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>>123227198
Who needs infantry when you have MAGIC?
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>>123227198
>recruiting troops
>ever
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>>123227198
>cast communion master or use a crystal matrix
>have cheap s1's
>set them up in a line
>cast ALL THE BUFFS
>especially things like pheonix pyre and soul vortex
Voila you now have no need for troops your battle line is now nothing but com slaves who reinvig themselves and explode
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>>123228087
I always wanted to do that but in practice frontline allah ackbar tactics are too easily crafted with crossbows.

A better option is to keep your suicide bombers in the backrow and cast mass flight.

It's a real shame LA agartha has no air magic because delivering the payload is a major pain in the ass for them.
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>>123229238
Com slaves can't move though. You would need to have one master spamming blink instead if you wanted to use back row shennanigans
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Fuck i love CoE.
But after spending quite some time with it, I have to declare that illfraud are the worst fucking UI designers in the whole world.
How the flying fuck can they think this shit is acceptable? If I want to play for 1 hour, 45 minutes of that hour will be wasted fiddeling around between menues, closing the fucking combat screens all the time. (FUCK I KNOW THAT 20 KNIGHT AND CROSSBOWMAN KILL 2 RABBITS, THANK YOU)
Holy shit, can we fucking kidnap them and force them to make atleast some halfway noncancerous UI?
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>>123232081
or just make their code open source so that competent UI people can do that
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now we wait for mictlan.
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African blood is to strong for dees wold
the people they run in fear from our strength!
caelum AI and Ulm staling the world is my oyster just try and stop me.
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>throne of life and BoT on same turn
kek
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As dwarves, what do you do with your gold?
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>>123236309
Mercenaries where you can, trade for iron or gems at overprice at all times, and watch it grow to crazy values.
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fucking ma bakemono sorcerers
impressively strong
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>>123238776
Too bad they're old as fuck
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So is coe4 really shit?
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>>123240120
No, not really.
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hello i am blue
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>>123241570
I've done that before.
Trolls are terrible.
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>>123219730
>OWH
Using a party member really helps, especially the classes with a harder start. Soldier D (he's in the starting castle) will join you if you have a certain amount of charisma, so most classes can be in a party from the start.

Try to kill enemies in one shot. Trading blows with enemies tends to burn through your consumables and usually isn't worth it. Don't let them get free hits in unless you really need to reposition.

Learn what enemies are tough then run away from them. If you get far away enough they usually lose interest. Some consumables (tangle weed, teleport pills) are great to have just in case you find something nasty.
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>>123242104
Honestly, pretty much all of the non-Norse non-Jewish giants are really disappointing. Most of them have shit for attack and defense as well as mediocre protection.
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>>123219730
You don't actually need a bow to use arrows, and ranged combat is really fucking useful.
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>>123243828
I wish more of the stuff in Dominions was viable. Half the magic items and summons are near-useless. Maybe I should learn to mod and fix everything.
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MICTLAN DO YOUR TURN REEEEEE
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>>123244202
The /domg/ balance mod tries to do that. It makes a lot of things more cost effective.
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Is there any way to get a Warlock in CoE4 aside from Charm if you don't play as Warlock?
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>>123248801
No, Charm is pretty much the only way to get faction-specific mages.
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>>123245413
This to be honest family
We could have had a two-turn day.
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>>123245413
Never trust Mexico.
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>>123219075
Sorry I was late for you, awoonon
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>>123249717
10/10, would pet and spoil
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>>123249717
looking forward to your mod actually being released some day.
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>>123249717
awoo
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>>123249903
damnit rlg you're leaking heavily
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This is probably a dumb question but

In CoE4, are your memorised spells the ones with an asterisk in from of them, or the ones WITHOUT an asterisk?
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>>123251543
With.
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GOAT WAIFU has evolved to GRYPHON WAIFU!
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>>123248965
>>123248801
hellbind heart, enslave, tartarian chains too
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Hosting postponed for 24 hours to give Sy time to test stuff :^)
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>>123255797
Did I not already submit my turn?
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Huh, I guess not. One sec, I'll resend it. Pretty.
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>>123256161
Your momma is pretty
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This smooth motherfucker walks up and slaps your prophet's ass.

What do you do?
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>>123256885
I kill it because 50 hp is a joke
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>>123256885
get jealous because he didn't slap my ass instead
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>>123254203
nice magic gryphon, you nerd
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>>123256885
Soul slay
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So are enchanters just shit?
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I require some more graphs, Stale jew.
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