>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/
>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png (embed)
>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png (embed)
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png (embed)
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt (embed)
>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2
>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620
>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair
>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn (embed)
http://fewes.se/pd2g/
>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
D-don't let this general die please
>>122758793
why
>>122759130
I like having it open in steam browser and refreshing it while I play
Dead game
Dead general
Everything dies.
Ashley's boypussy and girl cock
Let's put this boat in the water and find out if it leaks
>>122760253
I find this highly contradictory.
>>122760271
Why the fuck does Dentist oversee every single plan? I know for sure they recorded Hoxton's lines for preplanning, it's on youtube. Why aren't they adding them?
>>122760398
Because The Dentist sounds highly sophisticated
>Join a game when Americans are asleep
>this happens
All will be fire.
So how long until crimefest 2 safes become vaulable cause they're dirt cheap right now
>>122760686
When Payday becomes popular again;)
>>122760686
never
>>122760686
You're supposed to sell them when they peak ie. Right when they announced they were going to go away
It's too late for that now, though.
>>122760271
>proper planning prevents piss poor decisions
What did he mean by this?
>>122760938
but if you can't get them anymore that means there is only a specific number of them on the market doesnt it mean they are rare?
>>122761365
Not if there's a shitload of them
>>122759996
dead developer
>>122760271
the boat is sinking while burning
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/492378265876142541/
+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiEy7ju8FgQ
>>122761883
>a mentally ill person signed an NDA with Oyveyshill
Nothing to see here.
>>122762171
wow
rude
>>122762608
Doesn't make me wrong.
>>122761883
>While i'll hold my hand up and say i cannot speak for all of the community and i make my own mistakes as well,
![4dObWZ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mPpNxtH.jpg "4dObWZ[1].jpg")
thank you overkill!
>>122767431
I don't get it.
29 for the Aftermarket foregrip and Fully Loaded Epic win being the best castlevania track.
>>122760657
>not using the Matryoshka skin with its cute sticker instead of the Hypetrain one with its huge dildo for a suppressor.
>no surgeon's sight
0/10
>>122770601
I literally just slapped it on for the dozer achieve.
Mag-7 shotgun when ?
>>122770342Yeah,no.
>>122761883
They should have signed with tessio, it's not like people would interrogate him considering nobody is aware he exists.
>>122772818
That's because Tessio already signed one, but because of his secrecy he is able to release the info aslone wolf
>>122773776
>mfw believing LW was Ulf who was stable enough in his head to post here.
Fuck me sideways
Who
>still uninstalled
here?
Think Ashley will do any good?
>>122775357
nope
Nothing will change
overkill won't care
>>122774935
Only after playing Counterfeit and Panic Room, the classic heists look quite promising so far
>>122767431
>>122767589
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge#Kriegsflagge
>>122762683
What proof do you have that it is a mental disease? Any studies, or just your oppinion?
>>122760253
That's gay.
>>122778950
hello tumblr
>>122775357
Who caresI still want her dick in my ass.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/492378265877167018/
Looks promising.
>>122779153
>her dick
gay(?)
>>122779420
And?
>>122779297
I like those ideas, but Overkill certainly won't allow any of them. I'm beyond caring what Overkill does at this point anyway, I ill never (and I hope no one else here does) buy anything with Overkill, Starbreeze, Bo, or Almir associated with it.
>Join Cook Off mid game
>Everyone has all their stuff out
>throw a molotov at my feet and start using docbags over and over
>>122779860Yet you're still here :^)
>>122780170
I did that on overdrill
>>122779138
Good proof
>>122779297
>The possibility of adding a lobby filter that disabled the use of skin boosts
Jesus that sounds autistic and salty. Why not adding a filter for removing owners of the Ak/car bucher pack ? The content of this dlc just scream powercreep and pay2meta
>tfw no cute led scalie masks
>>122778950
That other guy wasn't me but there was a study I was reading. I have to find it again but, giving someone who is trans this drug in 2mg doses a day instantly removes the "i'm the wrong gender" shit. It's just a chemical imbalance in the brain.
>>122783990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDQ6efFaM3E
Forgot my video link
>>122779297
>Replacing the stat boosts with kill counters or similar.
Let's just hope Overkill will leave a insta-refund button for those people considering this fuck up the sole purpose of buying those stat-boosted products . That's like buying milk only to find out at home it's water when drinking it.
Aaaarrgghhhhhh I'm fucking dyyyyyyyinnnggggggg
>>122774329
It wasn't Ulf? That's a shame. It was almost like deepthroat level of conspiracy.
>>122782929
Shut the fuck up holy shit. Only your group of friends actually accept you here. Everybody else hates you furry/scalie/whateverthfucks.
LOL
>>122782929
>Hair
>>122778950
Homosexuality was very much considered a mental illness for decades until it was lobbied against in 1973.
thread now about ashley being transexual?
>>122796535
thread is gay, so yes
>>122796535
We could talk about Air Conditioners again if you want to.
Haha, ashley here actually. What did you guys think about the #3 suggestion i posted in the steam thread? Just curious!
>reduce a bit damage on deagle but still dominating every single fucking secondary
>Nerf the rest of the pistol for no fucking reason and assault rifles dont get any damage boost
I was hoping to come back any time soon but fuck this game. I will come back when the rest old heists are released.
>>122797058
I thinkpost-op or pre-op?
>>122797361
Whatever you want from me baby.
>talking about some tranny
Geez, if you're gonna get gay in here at least let it be about Sokol.
But seriously, what do you think about replacing Stat boosts with Stat Trak?
>>122798313
I never cared about a dude that has their kills counted or some shit like that but yeah this would fix the problem because that would be a cosmetic effect not some short of bonus ingame.
>>122797058
>>122798313
How about a little "ding"/notification that goes off every time the player kills x amount of specials. And reward the player for doing well by giving them a buff for 5 seconds when they reach the threshold?
Gun stat-trackers would track numbers of specials killed.
>Kill 40 tasers
>"electric charging" sound plays (that tasers use)
>player gets 5 seconds of crits
>Kill 40 cloakers
>"WOWOWOWO" sound plays
>player gets 5 seconds of super speed
>Kill 60 shields
>"shield banging" sound plays
>player gets 5 seconds of armor/shield penetration with all weapons
>Kill 20 dozers
>player gets 5 seconds of HE rounds
>Winters, swat van, etc etc have their own stuff
>>122798558
>kill 20 winters
>player gets 5 seconds of invincibility
>kill 20 swat vans
>player's throwables are replaced with gas grenades for 5 seconds
>>122798558
That still is a "stat boost" in some form and would cause further outrage.
>>122798946
players who have stat-boost are gonna be pissed if overkill removes it
I still think playing a sound would be a good way to notify other players that you just reached a checkpoint in kills.
>>122799062
Yeh i'm well aware of that, its a tricky situation to say the least. I did have a few ideas regarding that but we'll see what Overkill think during the meeting.
>>122798313
I only care if it works with my skin unlocker skins.
>>122799217
Really consider the idea though, 5 seconds of buff for playing well is a lot better than always-stat-boosted for being a good goy.
So I'm pretty new to payday and had a question concerning the single player. I usually prefer the single player aspects of games like this(left 4 dead, payday, etc), and most of the times the AI is pretty good and helpful.
However I was looking around and apparently they downgraded the AI for Payday 2. Evidently, the AI in the first game is pretty good while in the second it's dumb as shit.
Any truth to this? Am I better sticking to Payday 1 if I'm about SP?
>>122798313
I really like the idea of making the stat and team boost be infamous weapon mods that come with skins or card drops.
>>122800262
Get the Better Bots mod.
>>122800401
So go with a modded 2 instead of 1?
Alright, thanks anon.
>>122800262
You can definitely play every heist on normal with bots solo
but if you want to play DW solo, you're going to have to invest quite a few hundred hours to git gut enough.
but all stealth heists can be done on DW first-time through.
>>122800542
Not him, but I remember asking the dev via fagbook and they more or less admitted that the AI is pretty incompotent in 2(without mods).
>"hurf durf multiplayer experience now fuck off"
I get prioritizing what you want in your game, but come the fuck on.
>>122801068
AI is incompetent in normal even, I was only saying that playing normal shouldn't be an issue, but honestly in order to progress, you'll have to play higher difficulties.
This game really is about the multiplayer experience, singleplayer is fuckawful especially when it comes to looting bags.
>>122796374
>was
We also thought that bloodletting worked, the Sun was moved by a beetle and that Bush would be a good idea.
>>122801458
Don't be so quick to dismiss old theories/practices.
Alcohol was produced, banned, then made legal again. Here in my state, the drinking age was once changed from 21, to 18, back to 21.
Sometimes the country makes mistakes, and can be corrected again.
>>122801304but mods can fix that
>>122802024
mods can fix anything except the jewish plague
>>122802176
>Implying you need anything but a well and a hefty rock to cure that.
DO YOU FAGGOTS WANNA HEIST?
>>122806283
FUCK_NO_
>>122791235
Shut the fuck up holy shit. Only your group of friends actually don't accept me here. Everybody else accepts furry/scalie/whateverthfucks.
>>122793479
Well okay, not scalie actually. Looks cute at least.
>>122806283
I'llsuck your cock
>Minigun's ammo pick up is three bullets while it chews through ammo like a fat kid at a buffet
>Most LMGs average 10-15 bullets per pickup, you can easily sustain yourself infinitely as long as you can grab ammo
Why the fuck would anyone use the minigun?
>>122760398
>Hoxton preplanning lines
Whoa where when
>>122811948
Why would I still change my deagle for assault rifles when it still has better stats even when the "fix" comes around?
They have no fucking idea how their game works
What the fuck
>>122799217
I think it's just better to make them all team boost buffs.
Because think about it, it doesn't affect gameplay in anyway, paying for small XP boosts are relatively common in various games, and besides, it benefits the whole team.
>>122814482
I know, I don't understand why people choose to play as clover either
>>122814690
my character was taken i didnt pick clover
Who the fuck ever brings a saw for rats? For what purpose? On a DW pro job?
>>122814826
Dummies, don't get mad at shitters being shitters be mad at yourself for play with shitters
>tue: 14k peak
>wed: 13k peak
>today: 12k peak
WEW LADZZZZZZZ
>>122815027
Tumbling down
>>122815027
Was killing the game part of your plan?
>>122815341
sure
>current state of payday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQgYxNdsgQY
>>122801667
What says this is a mistake?
>>122821428
The part where you keep biting the bait.
>>122821486
Ok? Im willing to talk about something maturely. I dont see why I am "BEING TROLLED XD"
>>122821428
There isn't enough evidence to prove that homosexuality is a mental disorder, let-alone enough research to "cure" it.
it's accepted because it can't be disproven
>>122817210
i'm afraid
>Rats day 2
>There's a tazer in some far-flung corner of the map
>Is tazing everybody through walls and ignoring distance
Good game
>>122825758
Tazers are so damn bad. One was on the damn road in Rats 1 and used the window to get me. The only thing worse than them being far away as fuck is when they're on another floor entirely and they still get you.
>>122825758
so THAT'S who's been shooting me with invisible bullets.
makes sense now
what is this shit?
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=194
>>122827751
Thats Mexican Chains
>>122825758
>not being able to escape will all the loot on Rats day 2 before the cops show up,
You deserved everything you had.
>>122817210
>Marilyn monroe Dallas,
Just no.
Hotline Miami 2 is at 40% off
GET JACKET NOW
>>122833264
I CAN'T
>>122833264
>12 euros (11,99) To get a perk set and some masks, and 2 guns?
Eh, I dont know.
>>122833909
It includes Jacket and HM2 too goy
whats a good primary weapon that lets me be at 6 of concealment?
>>122835006
idk
>>122835006
What melee are you using?
>Muh Valkyria
>tfw getting kicked for taking risks to speed up the stealth on Bank:Heist,
All i did was killing a guard in the printer room with hidden blades aced and it worked, host should have been thankful to me for taking this kind of initiatives.
>>122835843
>Try to help
>Didn't help at all
I hate lagAnd when people doesn't answer
It's time to move on
>>122835989
Dude I didn't know you were lagging, I tought that if you saw me inserting that keycard you would do the same right after.
>>122836175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToGrrx9RI6s
>>122835843
Getting a guard in the printer room is perfect as long as they're not in the doorway. Shit host. Shit game. Shit thread.
>Please pay attention, you will be happy to know you are victims of a robbery. You will not be harmed. We will take the bank's money, your savings are insured by the federal government. Please, consider your loved ones, remain calm and quiet and your survival is assured .
>>122837697
>you will be happy to know you are victims of a robbery.
What did he meme by this?
>Join Watch Dogs game
>Host is a dick
>Throw two bags into the water before leaving
Shit man this is an easy grief
>>122838265
Don't they reappear in the truck where you start?
>>122838265
You do know the bags respawn right?
>>122838265
shoulda thrown them on top of a container instead
>>122838343
>>122838350
What a shame.
>>122838546
Stupid
>>122837697
Man watches that movie the other week it was so good.
>>122838265
>Joins Alesso Overkill game,
>two pubbies believe it's a stealth job and bring body bags and ecm while the host is clearly in a masterfug crook build,
>nobody gives a flying fuck about the objectives, the stealthfags lockpicking only the wrong doors and moving the forklift when i'm putting the c4 on it,
>they all decide to go after Captain Winter during the pyro sequence, getting all in custody in less of two minutes,
>mfw host finally quit the game at the end after getting them all out of custody,
I suggest we put the Alesso job on the list of heists that are way too complicated for pubbies to understand, on the same level as Car Shop or Big Oil.
>>122840769
Watch The Town also.
Essential heist-core.Ocean's Eleven/sequels and Inception are both terrible.
>>122841191i thought the first oceans movie was pretty fun
>>122841191
>not talking about Snatch at all for its heist scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezTdT8xe0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpGTn-Z6WbA
>>122832287
The gangsters double crossed us. And when I said "hey guys what room was the money in because that's where the info is" nobody said a fucking thing so I ended up sitting on a drill that didn't have shit in it
>>122842670
>not playing Rats as a Techforcer loaded with shaped charges,
It's like some people actually enjoy the Overpass escape.
So, what's the meme of Ashley being trans? Or is this just rumor spreading?
>>122843032
Are you just dense? What part of "Ashley is trans" is difficult to understand?
>>122843015
Now, see, that's valid. I had shaped charges but just didn't pack them. Day 2 is pretty easy to handle unless there's a fucking ghost tazing you.
>>122843070
Because this is 4chan and I'm not convinced unless she or someone that knows her said so. I mean, it's not fucking hard to make a rumor that gets Twitter to piss themselves.
>>122843032
Ashley publicly admitted on the steam forums, can't get any clearer than that.
>>122843191
Ashley here and i'm am trans. Not sure how i can prove i'm actually ashley though.
>>122843226
Oh huh, missed that. Can I get a link to it?
Can't blame me for not keeping up with the dead ass forums.
>>122843032
It's self admitted, and they clearly sound like a man anyway. It's like you've never heard a MtF trans 'person' speak.
Listen for hushed tones, they don't speak up because it's harder to control your timber and pitch at higher volume unless you've got talent or vocal training. This is a dead give away. Normal people raise their voice occassionally when excited, angry, or whatever. Trans people make a conscious effort not to because they know they'll slip up and belt out some smooth baritone chocolate.
>>122843452
timbre*, shieet
>>122843452
Haha yeh sadly i was pretty nervous during the interview and so my voice was really bad :X
>>122843452
Like, where did they admit this? I'm not saying I don't believe ya, but it's so weird that there's yet another trans person I knew and they never told me.
>>122843786
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/496881136905452713/#c496881136920008286
>>122843786
We know each other?
Also it was somewhere in the moderators on strike thread. I was explaining why my voice sounded so strange during the interview.
>>122843886
Being lazy as fuck wins again.
>>122843950
Stop roleplaying as ashley in this thread. Take it somewhere else.
>>122843247
TELL ALMIR TO GIVE ME FACKEN JACKET CODE
Tell me what DOESN'T synergies with Inspire
Combat Medic?
Painkillers?
>>122844057
Haha okay, tell me to put something in my profile for a moment like a phrase. I'll pop it in for a moment. Nothing NSFW obviously.
>>122844198
Only Painkillers doesn't synergies with Inspire, the aced version of Combat medic do give the health bonus.
Still, not sure if the damage boost from Combat medic do works when inspiring.
>>122844336
Regardless of if you are Ashley, take it somewhere else, this is payday general for discussing payday. Not for your bullshit. If people want to talk to you make a private groupchat somewhere or something.
>>122844392
Haha, sorry you do have a point there. I'm just reading places to see if there is anything i missed is all.
>>122843015
source of this fine artwork?
>>122844432
ASHLEY PLEASE CONFIRM IF SOKOL IS GAY
>>122844960
Uhhh i'm not sure.
>>122845085
pls ask
>>122844960
he's a bonnie chaser
You've just crossed over... into the twilight zone
>>122845968
>iron sights
I just can't do it mane. I know it's 1 extra concealment but why did they have to be TAN?
>>122845968
since when do guards go onto the roof?
>>122843437You can't
>>122844198
Keep in mind Combat Medic doesn't give shit on dw though.
>>122846329
Dunno. It's rarer than the patrol on the back dockside on SR though.
For the love of god, let the game just die. You have beaten the horse till there is nothing left. Its had it run for a coop game but please please please let it have some dignity so it can be buried with at least some honors left. All this waste of energy trying to keep this dead zombie shell moving and seemly alive is making poor little wrapped tightly in underarmour and nursed with monster and mountain dew baby jesus sad.
>>122843247
postdick
I do hope pd2 player numbers go even lower in the upcoming months. That fat fuck Almir need to see the point. He won't apologise because he's physically uncapable of that. Neither is starbreeze. Too bad people like Mcbadass are still shilling their greedy cocks.
>posting the original version and not the modified one in pic related,
You blew it Overkill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G51eVEIF-AM
>>122848703
>being this salty of updates released a month ago to the point of wishing the game to die.
You should go back to the Steam forums, the mods will take good care of you.
>>122848989
It's perfectly reasonable to be mad over this. overkill provided zero believable evidence as to why they pulled that shit. Also fuck your pro-censorship forums. Sucking off Almir won't help you here.
>>122848989
Fuck off Almir.
Is it safe to assume that the Katana and the buzzer are the best melee weapons available so far ?
>>122851407
They are, since some weapons got dropped down to 31 instead of 32 with hidden blade the buzzer is the best conceal weapon and katana best non concealed.
>>122851407
Yep
>>122851630
Buzzer is also goat with Dominator, it took me a long while to try it out. "Darn kids running around on my lawn, WHERE'S MY SHOVEL?" But once I went for it I never looked back.
>>122851407
Buzzer is the best for concealment and dominator. One buzz and the dude will get insta-dommed. Katana is pretty much the best for loud and in general. Good starter damage with decent knockback, and quick to deploy too.
>Open COP safe,
>get a brown-river bernetti well-used,
JUST
>>122851794
Is there even a point to dominator for stealth anymore though? Seems like you might as well just off 'em if you have to answer a pager anyway.
>>122851857
useful for Alesso's no-kill achievement. Other than that, no, it's shit.
>>122851857
through glass or something
>>122851857
Well, not in stealth, maybe, but in loud if you want to run dominator then it's obviously more useful there.
Don't answer back ya twat!
>>122851857
Yea you can stop them from shooting you after you got spotted then launch them with judge into better spot to answer the pager
>>122854189
you can stop them with bullets.
YEAH
>>122854276
But then you have to answer the pager where he died and there's a chance they shoot faster than you kill them like murky's
Anyone wanna do some DW?
>>122860667
Sure.
>>122860767
I'm in chat.
>>122761315
Its a military term
"Remember the 6 Ps; Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance"
I know it's used in the BAF idk about American forces.
>>122854093
HEY YOU, GET ON YOUR FEET
>>122843452
>shemale starts out in a hushed tone but after getting fucked hard enough can't keep up the facade anymore and a boyish moan comes out instead
this shouldn't expand my dong like it does...
but yeah, soon as I heard "ashley" talk you can tell right away.
>>122862819
>clover
>no arse
>>122834483
I played and finished the game already and dont feel like doing it again, well maybe if the editor is good....I'll wait Christmas.
>>122835006
GL40 Grenade Launcher.
>>122835843
What an idiot, I often get him there.
>>122841141
>Big Oil
No that is bullshit, althought you are awfully right, fuck me, Big Oil should be simple, you just need 1 person, 1 person who puts an ECM the first day and 1 person who get to the server then the others can keep the power by just killing, then one person who get the right engine....BUT NOOO, we see bags so we act like fucking apes and must go down there and touch everything like kids with autism.
Every fucking time, I have to tell them 3 times that I will be going there, and I even ask "who wants to get the engine? I can do it by myself" but nobody bothers answering.
>>122866078
>big oil
>im the only one with a flash light
>pick the correct engine
>tell everyone i have the right one
>they grab everything anyway
and thats how i got dr miserable, by refusing to drop the right engine till they loaded all the others in penance for being dumbasses.
>>122869943
Force people to get an achievement. That'll make them suffer
>>122869943
>Dr Miserable
Maybe one day when I am bored or find 3 equally bored people.
>>122866078
>pubbies,
>communication,
might as well flip a coin
>mfw Commando,will never be good ever again.
RIP 2013-2015, her 42 dmg/18 acc/25 stab. stats were godlike
>>122875189
It's fine
how are pubbies on pdth so bad
why would anyone run one by one through smoke at cloakers to try to help one guy up
nobody even managed to kill the single cloaker that downed them
>>122876678
>Doing the heat street
>GET READY WANKERS
>Shit faggots hurry the fuck up
>Get the first to get to the fucking van
>Go down
>Everyone is almost at the start because they actually wasted their time with the cops
>Custody
https://youtu.be/qYLVZ9juHxM
>this was actually at some point our reward screen.
>>122844960
Hes russian, of course hes not gay
>>122878162
Look really low budget
>>122878162
pretty cool.
>>122878162
I dont like the club part, but the ending screen looks cool
Why couldn't we just have had someone normal as our liason hnng
>>122879180
Because Tessio is not real and Jones is too busy doing a wax on wax off on Almir's balls in order to get his weird weapons in the next 4.99 dlc.
It is probably imporant as an investor and stock owner not to clump together the various opinions/questions/answers about micro-transactions as if all that's said has the same goal.
- Businesswise for Starbreeze's part and for stock owners the goal of MT is the highest possible profit and that is almost a necessity seeing to PD2s longevity and income from that.
It will probably be a successful project in the long run.
Game sites etc want to to create debate/twist the discussion back and forth and get more visitiors and comments on their sites.
- The players of PD2 have a very narrow view and only see their "own little world" where they've bought the game and wish/expect it to be/stay as they want it (And some players are completely out of touch and have zero perception of reality and what expectations and demands you should have and not understanding how much free content you should get from paying 200 SEK (Around 20 USD?) in 2013.
- Would the players rather have a PD2 free from DLC/MT that died out and lost support from Overkill during spring becaus the company had to release the next game to generate revenue? Everything can be improved but most of what Overkill has done is good and done in a fair way.
As Almir says time and time again in the 2 hour long interview, they were very clear what the $20 Completely Overkill Pack was about when it was released several months ago. It was a voluntary way to support overkill and add more hype fuel to the event, for those that could afford it. For that you would get a random reward from 25 possible things.
The thing that people are nagging about that Overkill has promised (Forumpost May 2013) "No MT" and that they have lied is ridiculous if you look at it from a mature realistic perspective with correct facts. But now the players aren't able to do that and that's why the company must select their wordsand only talk to them from the players point of view.
> companies exist to make money
> Overkill exists to make money and crush our dreams.
FTFY
>>122881916
>For that you would get a random reward from 25 possible things.
it wasn't 25 things though. what they actually rolled out was 25 archetypes, each with 5 levels of quality and two possible states of in-game effectiveness. that's 250 things. 125 of which are strictly inferior to the other half; 225 of which are inferior in marketability; and 30 of which break another, related, promise (the 3 legendary skin archetypes give non-cosmetic bonuses (assuming the stat-boost part of the entire skin framework still counts as only "cosmetic")) from the legendary mods
>>122881916
the revenue they make should be from people buying the game
by updating and making the game better you would attract more customers and thus make more revenue
So, does goonmod gage-coins let me buy safes and drills, or is that a no-no?
>>122886557
No, stupid
>>122886557
dumb animeposter
>>122886282
They had paid off all the development cost before the game even came out. They were making a profit off preorders alone. They really have no fucking excuse to have over $100 worth of DLC AND microtransactions AND steam market. It's just blatant greed at the expense of the player base.
>>122886557
Do you eat shit?
>>122886606
Oh okay. I figured it was too good.
I'm trying to do afraid of the dark but by game keep crashing when I put down the sentries what could be causing it?
>>122887348
No idea, need help? You can do it on normal too, Flamethrower and ammo bags help
>>122887480
Sure join Spash in the chat should be pretty easy guarding the boxes
>>122886926
wait if overkill was in a good financial situation why are they acting so desperate now?
if you looked at recent events its as if payday is barely making dimes and this a latch ditch effort to make a quick buck on a sinking ship
>>122881916
Almost everyone knew that Payday 2 is a moving game where its setting and content changed a lot since its release , the scandal from the MT is mainly because of the really bad timing and the huge amount of money people already spent in previous dlc.
For the COP, yeah they sticked to their word, the team bonus being actually so little due to fucked up mechanisms it can be seen as cosmetic. People still excepted a bit more from six months of wait than just a different version of the FWB and slaughter safes they gained it for free during Crimefest II.
Still the whole COP fiasco would be solved if they made COP safes and drills being droppable from cards for the owners of the dlc only.
>>122888097
Their excuse is "we still have to pay our employees" which you can see Almir use in the forum mod interview. But the reality is Starbreeze wants to build an empire off the back of Payday. They seriously believe they're as big as stuff like TF2, Destiny, and mobas. When in reality all it is is the only 4 player co op game that's still being supported.Also I'm pretty sure atleast 40% of the games success is due to Simon's bomb ass tunes.
>>122846091
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14033
or
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=12948
>>122846329
it happens when you kill 4 guards and they send in reinforcements
>Reinstalling payday 2
>Space allocation takes way longer than needed
>Updates take 12x more space than they need
>It takes ages to write to disk as a result of their shitty format
Why overkill
>>122890748
>Reinstalling.
The soundtrack hasn't updated yet so you have no excuse.
Wow, you guys weren't kidding. I thought there would at least be a full page of skinshitters or whatever, but there are only 5 half full servers showing up even when I set the filter to worldwide. Ded Gaem indeed. And here was me thinking you were all just memeing.
>>122891242
I do actually, it's calledStockholm Syndrome
Stealth 2.0 when
>>122893184
That would be 3.0 by now.
We already got a concealment update a couple years ago and that pager shit.
>>122893107
Then respec out of your shitty build and cancel your download.
>>122893184
Overkill fucking hates stealth. They took Shadow Raid ECM rush as a personal offense or something and it hasn't been worth doing since
>>122862984
I'd rather you didn't call me a shemale honestly but yeh my voice really needs work, sorry.
>>122893498
>Overkill fucking hates stealth.
>Implying ECM rush is stealth.
It's silently going loud.
>>122893615
Why are you impersonating the forum mod.
