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Old Thread: >>122051248
>>122720079
first for i dont even play this game im just stealing your first sorry
>>122720467
nobody plays this game or any nexon games
company is dead
Xth for buttblasted fionas
>page 10
>3 comments
It amazes me how the last two threads managed to make it this far
Why do you still play this game?
I only keep logging on in an effort to enchant my gear. I've grown tired of the game and I probably need a break from it, because I'm pretty sure I'll stop once I'm satisfied with gearing my character.
>>122727553
I don't desu. I log in like once a week or less to mess around for a few mins then I log off.
>>122727553
I don't, I just check the thread for lewd screenshots and fanart/sfm
>>122729789
Is the sfm any good? I can recall seeing a couple webms posted here and the models looked a bit off.
>>122727553
I have 5 waifus to take care of, how do you not?
>steam notification shows new update
>gold gnoll chieftain is back
I EARNED THIS THE FIRST TIME
THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T BRING IT BACK
IT'S NO LONGER FUCKING SPECIAL
SPECIAL
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>>122731892
Earned it? Don't you mean brute forcing the RNG with hundreds of dollars in NX?
>>122732658
SAME DIFFERENCE
>>122730112
most sfm art looks like shit because they dont know how to use color correction correctly
rip thread
>>122734410
What the hell is sfm?
>>122739103
Source Film Maker
Porn, anon
>>122732729
How much did you spend on getting that? I'm curious how bad it was to get that.
>>122727553
Combat is still fun, S3 raids and Niflheim is enjoyable for the most part and takes only 1-1.5 hour to do. Don't want to let my guild down too.
>>122727553
I might stop when Black Desert is localized and turns out not to be garbage like the CN version. Really once I get a better multiplayer action alternative.
Platinum games come out to fill the void otherwise.
is NITR x2 boxes still a thing?
i was asleep for the past 7 hours and havnt played in 10
>>122747319
NITR?
>>122747407
nightmare in the ruins
confirmed for myself
its on
time for doge hate
im surprised nexon didnt do anything about it yet
anyone got banned yet?
>no such chieftain event for eu
>>122747735
>>122748141
What now?
>>122750074
Nexon EU got worse with events in last month or two. We used to have multiple events running all the time, not that they were particularly good, but still better than nothing or this GM event. 30min GM campfire buff... yea, thanks.
>>122750351
you can farm the event boxes which are supposedly from raid only from nightmare at the ruins.
you can get good NX stuff if youre lucky.
>>122751427
Nightmare at the ruins is Laghodessa, which is labeled as a raid. Is it not limited?
>>122751746
labeled yes, but not a real 8 man raid, never was limited, never will be.
this cant be intentional, slim chance maybe, sure, but were talking about a chance for best sellers in less than 2 minutes.
>>122751898
should probably mention that you can reroll boxes, just press x if you dont have the x3 runes and retry.
>>122751898
They said the items only drop from raid battles, and they do only drop from battles that are marked as raids. The daily limited battles that give you seals of bravery but -aren't- marked as raids don't drop the items.
The droprates for good stuff are low enough that I don't know why anyone is clamoring for Nexon to remove it from the non-limited battles.
>>122741789
$114 exactly
>>122752559
That has never ever mattered. Those boxes only show a small subset of the entire drop table.
Similarly, your choice of the random button or the ? boxes don't matter either. What you get is predetermined and when the server is lagging you can even get the item long before the boxes cheekily show you "picked" a box next to a good item.
>>122752559
Reroll? I'm not getting any options other than the big button and pikcing a square
>>122752882
press x before rolling to change the 10 items
but according this anon..
>>122752864
are you sure?
iv been seeing only 5 out of 10 possible items in the row every time
might be pure chance?
the way i saw it is, 5 are discarded, rest are inside boxes.
was i imagining? grind can do that to me.
fuck yeah level 80.
gimme that broken armour baby.
>>122753503
wat
>>122753990
80 is when armour gets retarded with both offence and defence for all classes.
90 is so far im probably not going to see it so im sorta hyped.
>>122754078
I've been told never to upgrade armor between 60 and 90. Wonderland for life.
>>122754118
i for once, do not enjoy being glass.
the thought of reaching 90 makes me want to uninstall, please dont remind me.
>>122754402
The grind for gear or the lack of leveling?
Because I whole heartedly look forward to learning how to solo raids at 90.
>>122754449
the grind.
i just got to 80 and it made me want to poke an eye out to feel anything but the tedium.
90? fuck that
>>122754519
60-70 was pretty rough honestly. What's so bad about 70-80?
>>122754818
its really not bad from a general point of view.
im just a lazy bitch.
>wanted armageddon witch set
>check the mats and costs
YEAH NOPE
even if the market had the fucking quantity, just fucking NO.
fuck this game , this is the part i didnt miss.
>>122754902
Farm empowered enhancement stones for superbux
>>122755247
i can get the money from simply selling basic shit i have on me but for an armour il eventualy replace? nope.
also theres literally not enough leg items on the market to make 1.
il just glass it untill 90 i guess.
also i forgot, whats the enchantment level that shit breaks if it fails?
>>122755420
Raid naked to 90.
>>122755420
+8 or above.
Returner here, 90lvl Hurk on EU. Which weapons I can buy for 100kk? Also, any of you sale?
>>122761578
+7 to +8 doesn't break, +8 to +9 and above does break.
>>122762265
I'd guess, a r7 scrolled +11 lv90, probably not enough for a +12 lv90, someone I know is buying a +13 lv90 and they go for 300m.
>>122762731
How about lower levels? Like, how much is lvl70 +15?
>>122752967
If you ever opened even 1 NX gachapon you'd know what he's saying is the truth.
No matter what you would choose you'd get some shitty megaphones and literally all the other choices would be crazy good stuff to make you think you just chose wrong and try again, simple cash-grab method from truly yours Nexon.
What have you guys gotten from boxes so far guys?
I've gotten like 28 days of VIP, a armor fusion rune, and 6 enhancement runes as far as the more expensive stuff goes. Hoping for some enchantment runes.
>>122766912
14 days of VIP, 60 days of hair, a crap ton of mercenary potions so I don't have to be conservative with them anymore, no runes yet.
>tfw i realize i forgot to level up smash mastery when i switched from staff to scythe and it's been at rank F for weeks
How bad am I
>>122768537
No no, you mean you want a challenge, so you left it at F. This game is so easy for you since you are so good!
>>122768537
Now that you've mentioned it, are translated and up to date multiplier tables posted anywhere? That Vindictus Snobs thread has been dead for a long time.
>>122766912
From 14 boxes I got 6 enhancement runes, some shitty boost scrolls, 2 7 day storage coupons, minor skill reset capsule, exp capsule, and blessings.
Not bad for an event.
>>122751427
>2 levels away
thank god i started again after 2 years yesterday
>>122766912
>What have you guys gotten from boxes so far guys?
Nothing,EU is suffering and sucks.
>>122766912
3 enhance runes and 1 enchant. Hopefully I can gather up some more enchant runes throughout the event. I figure you'll burn through 3 enchant runes on average for each R7 scroll so I really want to stock up while I can.
i never get the good shit /ded/
send me your goddamn luck :^(
>>122763862
i was delusional yeah, i opened like 20 believing that. HA, god damn the things grind can do.
saved me time , thanks anon.
>77k exp
>spiders
>no money
>for drops
>waiting for the damn music to stop
its like im in 2012 again
Are the pouches account-tradable? I want to farm them with my underleveled alts.
>>122791913
can they kill the spiders in under 2 minutes?
item says event items none tradable, wouldnt know to what extent.
i have a +12 raiders staff and not getting enhance runes really makes me wanna rage enhance it to 13 just to spite myself.
Its been a long time since I've farmed spiders.
>336.9 million exp from 80-90
>450 autumn reed bed runs
le fuck you face.
>>122794903
Farm lagho until you get a VIP, exp bonus and some exp blessings.
>>122795123
VVIP+hard mode is caluclated into that
750k per run.
the way the mission works makes exp stones give 16k extra exp, so its a total waste.
>>122794903
If you're using the wiki values, I'm fairly certain those are completely off. It should only be about 11-15m per level for each of them.
I don't have actual numbers on me though, but I leveled 4 characters to 90 and there's no way I did anywhere close to 1000 Autumn Reed runs.
So Nexon really isn't fixing the box huh, it's actually kind of unnerving how they're being so nice all of a sudden.
>>122794179
Runes don't work above +10
>run s3 lord glas for the first time
>ask for quick advice
>dont really get any beside dont go in holes
>didnt even die first
>this karok guy tells me to watch guides
>fight goes on
>people die
>i finnaly die once to the grav thing
>figured i need to run into holes like the rest did
>second time i died was when i run into a hole
>suddenly sliders, die
>meanwhile karok dies 3 times and blames glitches
>he has a macro "Job well done bro" every other time someone dies or fucks up
>fight ends, tell him that his constant advice to watch yt is pointless mid fight
>tells me an idiot for not preparing before going into battle
>rest are quiet
>2 people tell him hes an idiot for needing yt in the first place
fate of autism
>>122799754
Was the karok named "Megadeus"?
>>122800724
ALBIN0KAROK
i wish i was joking. on east.
>>122799754
Despite being trash for some things, the wiki rather concisely spells out all the boss attacks and mechanics of every boss in the game. Give it a quick look, that's all I needed. But you've seen the fight now anyways.
Where is everybody? There are almost no people on channel 1.
>>122802457
Deadgame isn't a meme. Server population has declined so sharply since S3 launched that it's actually difficult to get boats going for the brand new content.
>>122800806
Haha, that guy's a colossal retard. He reported me for 'hacking and infinite trans time' because I killed myself on a boat before.
>>122802678
fucking hell, glad im not the only one seeing it.
i weep for this game.
>>122802592
Is there any chance that it will rise by the time the revamp comes around? I don't think that's enough the bring a ton of people back in my opinion.
>>122803482
>karok revamp
>bringing anyone back
im actually surprised devcat wasted their time with it
more on point, hagie release is probably going to bring back more people
>>122803482
Karok's revamp will bring absolutely nobody back. NA's karok playerbase doesn't exist, literally nobody cares about the character. None of the old players will come back for his revamp, it won't draw in any new ones and current players probably won't even make a karok to try it out.
We might get some people back with the Kai and Vella revamps since Vella in particular has always been pretty popular.
The biggest revival this game is going to see in the near future is Hagie's release, since that'll be concurrent with Lugh. Even then, new players are going to check the game out and quit before Ainle like always, and old players will lose interest with Hagie and quit again when they realize he's boring as shit and half-baked.
Fiona here. Looking for help on East Server. Channel 107. Timeless Rage. He keeps wrecking my shit.
How would you even fix the early game for Vindictus? What can be done to make sure people continue playing it and not drop out by level 20?
Is the solution to completely rework how the story is structured, possibly including multiple story bosses of S1 in their own map? That would take a lot of effort for the dev team.
They could instead just leave out about a third of the battles instead, cutting down on the filler content.
Any ideas?
>>122804975
Just run it on easymode if you're trying to finish the quest
>>122805057
I tried. He's been destroying me. Any tips?
>>122805041
Make the game harder. If someone mows down the content easily for 20 to 30 levels, they'll get bored and leave.
>>122805041
For starters, fix up perilous ruins so that it doesn't look so awful. As the first area you play in, it's a really poor representation of the game as a whole.
Package most of the Episode 1 missions into 'Prologue" and allow it to be skipped, beginning directly at the Gnoll Chieftain fight and allowing them to start Episode 2 immediately afterwards.
I think that'd be good enough to at least smooth things over. Hoarfrost doesn't look terrible and leads into some bosses that are at least interesting and suitably challenging for a 1st proper area and then into Ainle which is actually decent and will probably hook any player that would actually like the game anyways. Plus then Ruins of Sanctity come across as less of a blatant rehash.
In complete honesty, I would advocate they trash pretty much the entire 1-50 from scratch so that it's graphically and design-wise up to the standard of current content, and isn't just a parade of blatantly recycled procedural dungeons and filler bosses. One of the most common issues I see new players bring up is how they feel like levels 1-60 were a dull steamroll and didn't really push them to learn their character's mechanics properly or git gud, so they were totally unprepared for level 60+ content where things actually start getting difficult and using your character properly begins to matter. I know they'll never do all that, but it would probably be the best way to salvage the dogshit earlygame.
>>122805134
>easy mode
>getting destroyed
Dude...
>>122809590
S1 easy mode is actually harder than S2 easy, it took me forever to kill black hammer with 60 gear on easy mode.
Any videos of Bow Kai's hold skill yet?
>>122810169
CBH's HP doesn't scale very much because he's already pretty much a joke. Shakarr is the same way.
>>122810508
Yes
>>122810552
You mind spoonfeeding me? I can't navigate gook forums contrary to the pic I posted
>>122804975
Are you the same Fiona trying to do Elchulus before maintenance hit? Still trying?
>>122805041
Maybe they could revert the nerfs season one got. For hard difficulty at least. Harma used to normally be as fast as current hero mode Harma.
>>122811662
Naw, most of S1's nerfs were appropriate. They weren't really about making content easier as much as making it less stupid and obnoxious to do.
>>122804975
I'd love to help but alas I am on West Server, the only tips I can offer you is make sure the rubble areas are up and counter attack whenever he tries charging you.
ded
dedder than ded
>>122812114
I don't think easy mode Elchulus even flies around.
>>122826697
He does thats why its so annoying. He will raze the field and shoot as per usual. However alone you can't really put the barriers up between blasts.
>>122826697
It does. Honestly easy Elchulus is a pain in the ass since if it starts flying it tends to waste way too much time if you're trying to farm during 2x AP windows where you only have a few hours.
That and I'd imagine anyone new would still get hit by the DoT and end up dying due to the stalling putting them at 1HP and not being practiced enough to finish it off.
>>122827996
You only need to use the barrier for the pattern where he blasts each half of the field.
The rain of black balls can be dodged through normally, and the blue fireball can as well.
>>122828250
The big black balls can be tough if you're new.
>>122824056
Not as dead as giant extreme robots general.
>>122799754
Blaming glitches is getting so old. Don't play a shitty character, or learn to workaround glitches, like everyone else. I bet, most of the time it's not even glitches, just things not going their way.
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>Doing Lord Glas
>Get Disconnected
>ISP has an outage for 3 hours
>end up cooking and cleaning for 3 hours because everything I want to play has some online
Kai's new holding skill
https://player.vimeo.com/video/146219976?nxid=15
>>122852546
Guessing this is the "Fatal Arrow". It fits him. Not as fantastical as any of the other hold skills, but looks fine.
Wonder if there will be a variation for Longbow Mode. Can't wait to see Bunker Buster.
>>122852546
Did he just fire arrows in mid-air so he could catch them while falling and then fire them again?
>>122852546
just like in my animes!!
>>122854149
>Did he just fire arrows in mid-air so he could catch them while falling and then fire them again?
Don't see anything wrong with that.
>>122854674
>just like in my animes!!
Well,most of these Korean/JP games share aesthetics so it doesn't seem so out of place.
>>122854149
>>122857845
I don't really hate it, just couldn't tell what was going on.
I wish they'd just scrapped arrow storm and used its animation as the start of the new skill though. This one looks like it'll have the same problem as gun where it whiffs on targets up close.
>>122852546
Looks really gay desu. But I don't know if all that gay just comes from the way his Kai is dressed up.
>>122852546
Why do so many of these new animations have that edgy 'too cool to care' walk at the end? It's really fucking stupid.
>>122840437
Some of the glitches in vindictus can be really bullshit, though, and hard or impossible to work around
>boss attack coming your way
>hit dodge button
>character begins dodge animation, then stutters and skips forward immediately to the recovery animation
>get hit
If you're not the host every time you play, you're bound to come up against at least a few bugs or netcode inconsistencies that'll get you hit or killed. It's not like a player can control or just work around animation skips or getting frozen.
>>122865149
They're just recycling animations from Lugh
>>122859621
>>122860418
>>122865149
So what's your favorite hold skill animation?
>>122865902
Reverse Gravity.
how do I gain mana effectively using arisha?
>>122865902
probably hork's
>>122869123
Use counter drain to absorb off CD. Throw your crystal out, stack it to 5 hits, and detonate it off CD. Use L (Hold) if the window is too short for you to reach LLLL, otherwise LLLLL is more effective for both damage and MP.
I think if you have enough speed you can throw, stack to 5, retrieve, throw, stack to 5, detonate in under 10 seconds. But that'd only work on sandbags.
is durability and crit resistand gitting gudthe only way to prevent armor from breaking?
>>122874147
I'm not really sure how the armor breaking system, works. The safest bet is probably 'don't get hit', but I definitely get the impression that higher-level armor takes longer to break than lower level armor. Going from level 60 gear to level 80 gear when S3 hit I went from having S2 raids break a piece of armor with every hit to facetanking like a shitter and most of it surviving 'till the end of the raid.
>>122874147
Camp buff, but if you face tank like a Karok that didn't learn absorb shock the dura restoration doesn't do anything.
>>122874147
I used to find it far more annoying back when I didn't carry Temporary Armor Repair Kits, but now that I do I hardly worry about armor at all.
Running Away and Standing still for 30 seconds will drop any boss aggro on you as long as you aren't alone. So repairing armor mid-fight is really easy.
>>122865149
It all started with Arisha. She started the whole "nothing personal kid" shit with TS, and everything afterwards was set to meet that standard.
I think the only thing that really disappoints me about the Karok revamp is how unarmed combat is still completely worthless.
The whole idea of giving a better clash buff for clashing unarmed is neat, but it still gives you no reason to actually punch things after throwing your pillar and with the boosted SP gain from unarmed removed it's completely worthless.
I really would've liked to see them give unarmed combat itself a niche. It's actually pretty fun using unarmed combat but currently it's never really worthwhile and the revamp relegates it purely to pillar throw -> clash -> pick up pillar.
>>122878435
I don't get why you'd ever spend 30 seconds plus however long it takes to repair just to gain back a bit of defence. Hell idling for 30 seconds before anything is retarded.
It'll only let you take one extra hit, unless you're really stacking defence. It's not worth it over just walking away to drink a pot whenever you get hit.
>>122878435
only reason I dont want my armor to break in the first place is because my character looks ugly when the armor breaks
>>122881837
So do you never use trans or something
>>122886184
with great shame, yes
>>122800724
I'm so happy to see you're still thinking about me anon, butI'm not into menI also haven't played in months and I'm not usually on page 7 but I saw the thread and popped in to see if there was anything new happening with the game.There isn't.
>>122865191
that's not a glitch, it's a feature.
I hate BLR,that is all.
>>122890321
Everybody does, anon.
>>122890321
It's a shame when a boss has more iframes than sword lann.
>>122893513
>It's a shame when a boss has more iframes than sword lann.
It's not only that.It feels like he has a ton of hp (especially compared to the rest of the nifl bosses),half the time i feel like i'm not doing any damage at all.
>mfw reading the kai revamp
>all we have to look forward to is episode 4, piece of shit hagie, and a karok revamp for several months
>>122896573
ok brook.
Need some help with pricing these scrolls, please!
Force Enchant scroll
Crescent Moonlight's enchant scroll
Subdued enchant scroll
Significant enchant scroll
>>122903183
What server?
>>122903183
Europe
Is it possible to dodge Kielu tail attacks with Hurk?
I'm doing like the 3rd or 4th run now and barely take it down to 8x-9x bars, keep running around drinking hp pots yet getting killed by the tail attacks eventually anyway
>>122903770
You can block it with your dodge if you time it properly
>>122903770
No idea if you can impen them, but you can get out of the way if you use charge (or whatever his dash is called) when you see the cloud of dust beneath you.
She has two variants, the single tail you have to react to and she does 3 in a row if she shouts and the screen shakes.
It always follows a set rhythm, so just dash out of the way before it pops up. I'm not a Hurk player so there's probably ways to be more efficient about it.
>>122904325
>>122904350
yeah, took some with Blockade/Charge or moved out it's way, but one of the follow up hits still got me down to lesser than half hp from full
did it by spamming merc pots (like 10-15) +trans, don't have time now to run up this area all the way for 10-15 mins just to get killed after half mins in battle
also have to progress with quests and need the xp, no time to do this tryhard only this one boss through the whole night now
>>122893658
>It's not only that.It feels like he has a ton of hp (especially compared to the rest of the nifl bosses),half the time i feel like i'm not doing any damage at all.
There might be a reason for that.
Succubus Queen
Level: 85 Exp: 0
HP - 3,618,000
Att: 12,800 Def: 9,000 Crit: 30 Res: 56 CritDmg: 150%
Blood Lord Reborn
Level: 85 Exp: 0
HP - 3,618,000
Att: 13,000 Def: 9,500 Crit: 30 Res: 57 CritDmg: 150%
Zecallion
Level: 85 Exp: 0
HP - 3,402,000
Att: 12,800 Def: 9,000 Crit: 30 Res: 56 CritDmg: 150%
He has more DEF and crit res than the others, same HP as SQ, his gimmick -restores- his health and unlike SQ doesn't let you deal half a bar of damage with QTE, and BLR generally spends a lot more time unhittable/invincible.
>>122912505
I think the issue is mainly just his iframes. Compared to other bosses, you just spend so much of the fight unable to hit RBL. It extends the duration of the run escessively.
>>122912505
I'm capped on all of them and he still takes about 10 more minutes to solo, and that's without being hit by his drain.
It's not really iframes either, his attacks just all stay active for much longer compared to most other bosses. Compare how long all of RBL moves last to every other Niflheim.
Does anyone know how expensive Declarative, Silent, Enlightened and Journeying are on East? Are they all within 40-60m?
I have one premium rune and would like to use it on the most expensive.
>>122915763
declarative: 40m
journeying: 15m
silent: who knows
enlightened: most expensive on your list
in addition to their price, you should also consider which scroll has the stats you need most
Does anybody still give a shit about twinkling
East btw
>>122917237
Yeah, but it's not worth much. Maybe 2-3m
>>122917436
thanks
>Name reclamation event
useless
>>122915763
Silent is weird. I've seen people insist it's worth no more than 15 mil and seen bidding wars take it up to 60+
This game drained any hope from me 4 years of playing the game for nothing any rare i get is worth 2k at this point
>>122919498
Any tips on how the hell am i supposed to get money for a decent cestus that won't get me kicked from s3
>>122922143
Are you level 90?
Make a purple one, run your daily Muir until you have enough stones to get it ~+5 and you'll have enough attack to avoid getting booted out of everything. It should cost you less than 2 mil in total.
Running the S3 maps and S2/3 Raids are probably the best way to make big bones if you're poor and you'll be able to get on most raid trains with a purple 90.
>>122922459
I already have a purple but 17k does not work even if they let me in i'm just a clash slut with no damage
The problem with this game is that there's really nothing competitive to strive for. By that I mean the essential end game of vindictus is farming for better gear to more efficiently do the runs you've already done hundreds of times to get said gear.
Maybe if they fixed the pvp and made it somewhat decent people might have a reason to strive for top tier gear, but as it stands most are content to stick with average or better.
Hell if they want to add a competitive element it wouldn't even HAVE to be pvp, they could add some sort of pave race between two parties or some shit, I dunno anything to justify spending so much time getting good gear other than "now you can do the bosses faster".
>>122922958
Yeah, pretty much. I wouldn't be playing if I had anything better to do. Character progression is kinda fun but there's literally nothing to motivate me once I have decent gear.
>>122922958
>The problem with this game is that there's really nothing competitive to strive for. By that I mean the essential end game of vindictus is farming for better gear to more efficiently do the runs you've already done hundreds of times to get said gear.
Tons of f2p games are doing fine even though that's all they consist of too. The problem with Vindictus endgame is how little relevant content there is combined with the awful enchant system and these new R7's that either force you to blow up a ton of gear or drop an enormous amount of money on runes.
What's worth buying in the AP shop?
>>122929282
The weekly dye ampoule, then try getting 230/230/230 and 25/25/25.
>>122930038
They're not tradeable are they? I guess I could dye things for my alts then, and trash all the shit colours I get.
>>122930294
I think they become tradeable after you fill them.
Level 41 here, group content seems really dead. Does it get more populated at later levels or am I better off playing with friends?
>>122931171
They aren't. Nexon changed that a while ago.
Also, Black Friday Sales:
http://vindictus.nexon.net/news/4961/black-friday--day-1?nxid=15
>>122935729
Good timing, I needed a new hairstyle and fusion runes
The enhance runes seem to be typo'd
I'll probably pick up one of each enchant/enhance rune since 80% off is a nice bargain
>>122935724
95% of the playerbase is at the 70-90 level. You're going to have a hard time finding parties for levelling until Hagie is released, most likely in December.
You will just have to keep going, the 8 man raids at level 60 is where this game really starts to shine.
>>122935724
there is no significant group content before 60 anyways because you can solo everything on easy mode
>>122937397
You can do that at 60, too. The whole reason they added easymode was because 60-70 content was too dead for people to easily progress story quests, and soon 70-80 will be as well.
>>122923330
>Tons of f2p games are doing fine even though that's all they consist of too.
Most F2P games have a strong PvP scene or have end game gear that you can 'grind' for without being 100% RNG though.
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>>122854149
He stuns with one barrage, chain hooks and preydives up but kicks off and as he's falling back down the arrows fall from the quiver and then he lands and fires the caught arrows off (presumably breaking his spine from turning around like that).
If I dont get a drop within a week I will blow up all my weapons.
>>122852546
that looks fucking terrible
>~180 torso twist
>>122946673
Tell us your name so we can peer pressure you to do it O brave one.
>>122805041
Step 1: Canibalize the Perilous Ruins and Hoarfrost Hallow re-hashes. Re-distribute their levels in the parent areas and make certain each mission is unique.
Step 2: Update Ainle to be structured consistently like the Season 2 and 3 areas are.
Step 3: Well, we just cannibalized all the clones, so it's time to replace them.
Chapter 4 was about keeping Gnolls from teaming up with the fomors, so create an area that exists between the Perilous Ruins and the Prarie and play off the story of interception properly.
Not too certain about the other two areas, but bottom line is keep those Unique and keep them to Season 2 and 3 standards. If they want to know what to do with themeing, follow the Mario Conventions.
Step 4: Give all Raids a Kid Icarus/Smash Bros styled difficulty setting that runs from 1 (lv 10) to 9 (lv 90). Of course certain raids would have their usual level minimums, but it would keep raids from becoming obselte.
Step 5: Update the fucking raids. Season 1 Raids rationalized that Faster = Tougher, therefore by the time you reached Colru he was literally doing Sonic the Hedgehog Shit.
Step 6: Politely ask Mabinogi for some enemies and sprinkle in 3-5 or so redesigned Mabinogi monsters thoughout the missions. Because, you know, we're like a prequel.
Step 7: For Normal and Hard Mode Stages, make the hard-mode elemental enemies appear. Not as strong and definitely toned down, but just have enemies who have enough poise to keep from getting stunlocked out of existence.
Step 8: Tweak the stage bosses so they feel and look unique to fight. They don't have to be as original as, say, the Raid Bosses, but give them things that make them seem unique. They started finally getting that concept once Rorchestte started rolling around but they didn't completely learn their lesson until Season 2 where there was naturally more pressure to make each boss in a stage unique from one another.
>>122946673
allörs ackbärs my friend
Any good profit missions for money since i'm getting tired of getting kicked for low attack preferably something that will get me a new cestus since purple regina ain't enough
>>122953607
Emps are nearing 100k again on East, farm any good scroll run from s1 and you'll profit no matter what. Lost Road is a good one for Maelstrom which I'm seeing some demand for with all the free runes we're getting. Do your daily Muir run(s) for Paradise stones, and Succubus for scrolls.
Also, consider buying a +10 mael armageddon cestus or something, my Karok has 2.4k str and manages 20k with one, without crushing strike.
>>122958028
I'm from eu so no free runes i just dropped an judgement es what are the prices
>>122958670
http://forum.nexoneu.com/showthread.php?1463743-Enchant-Scroll-Pricelist
You can uses this list, not everything might not be accurate but it's a starting point.
What stats help with getting break offs? knockback and crit?
>>122950023
You're pretty much spot on except for the fact that S1 raids in general are still the best set of raids and Coloru especially is probably the best single raid in Vindictus. They could use some updating, but they certainly do not need to be slowed down or made easier. The whole Idea with S1 raids was that when they were active, they were aggressive and threatening enough to limit your damage options severely. That's why the whole term 'sandbag dps' came about, because every character did significantly more damage when a boss was held down and you actually had time to get a 4th smash out. S1 raids were all about managing the bosses attacks and getting minor hit&run damage until you had an oppourtunity to hold a boss down and do as much damage as possible. That's why virtually every S1 raid, including Colru, had some mechanic that would knock down the boss for several seconds and give you a brief window to wail on it. They actually went back to that design with S3 stuff, though only Lord Glas is really fast and aggressive enough to where it makes a difference.
S1 endgame was still the best endgame Vindictus has ever had. S2 raids and the general S2 endgame was absolute shit by comparison, and part of what's killed the game so completely. S3 is still too young to tell but it's probably a step in the right direction.
>>122953607
i hope youre not getting kicked for "low atk" in season 2 at the very least
the atk cap there is generally 18k
>>122970801
Yeah, it's a shame to watch bosses like Colru get flinch-spammed into oblivion in 30s now. I'll always think Colru is a shitty boss because of that ridiculous fire AoE ability, though.
S2 really was the worst for boss design and gear progression, wasn't it?
>>122970801
So just ramp S1 bosses to end-game level and give them r7 scrolls as drops?
>>122973027
That's what hero mode should have done but they fucked it up in every way possible.
>>122972902
>S2 really was the worst for boss design and gear progression, wasn't it?
Probably. I think gear progression was actually possible the worst thing about S1. If you were poor, there was no practical way to make money. The game was far too focused around spending hours and hours farming the same few missions in Fomorian Base or Sewers in order to produce gear that you could sell for a few mill a pop. Once you had yourself 'endgame' gear (read: a +10 level 60 weapon and BH/swift or BH/ingkells armor) there was nothing to do anymore except farm for more money, buy side-grade armor for fusing/fashion and spend too much money for minor stat upgrades.
Devcat had never anticipated stats ever getting out of control so there was really no balance around caps and you'd end up with goldbuyers running around with +15 black hammers and +10 armor, 10k defense and ~15k attack facetanking raidbosses to death and doing 70% of the damage in a full party.
And the introduction of R9's was cancer, because of course there was no weapon revival option and no rune to protect gear, so every scroll was a crapshot that risked ruining your character. Not to mention the introduction of level 70 gear with Ancient Elchulus stratified things even more. Suddenly you had people going around with +12-15 70 gear, fully scrolled in R9's, popping all 3 kinds of stimulant and making every bit of endgame content a joke.
By comparison, S2 actually wasn't so bad once they introduced nighthawk. ~14-15k attack was actually more than enough to do pretty much any S2 content, contribute meaningfully and complete in a reasonable amount of time (reasonable by S1 standards). It was really the community that made gear stratification in S2 such a problem. A few goldbuyers get 80 gear, realize how excessively powerful it is and suddenly everybody demands that you have 19k attack for a raid with an 18k cap because it is absolutely reprehensible to imagine a raid taking longer than 10 minutes to complete.
>>122973027
That would be my vote. Some minor mechanical changes would also be interesting. I'd give my left nut to see a few new moves tacked onto some of the old raids.
Particularly, I think some of the old raid mechanics have become a little obsolete. It was worthwhile at the time to have someone running the catapults on Colru because Evie was the only character with a holding skill, so that knockdown was precious. Now that everybody has one, there's really never a reason to use the built-in knockdown tool.
I think Ancient Glas was a really clever solution to this. Having the boss be immune to knockdown and flinching except during as brief window after you've successfully performed the raid mechanic sort of reconciles the old designs with the way that character power has creeped over time. I would actually like to see that become a petty much universal mechanic: have raid bosses immune to most or all CC out of brief windows related to their in-built raid mechanic. The only obvious exceptions being Karok's clash and Lynn's flinch.
KR changed S2 raids to scale HP to party size right? Does anyone have the numbers for 1-4 person parties?
>>122975580
Colru's catapults are still really good when you need help with the break off.
>>122975925
The breakoff would be kind of obsolete in an level 90 difficulty, wouldn't it? Raid mechanics being relegated to farming purposes kind of defeats the point, like Thor's shitty stillborn breakoff gimmick.
If I were to change Colru to be an endgame raid again, I think I'd start by making him normally immune to knockdown skills, and become vulnerable to them for a brief period whenever a catapult hits one of his breakoffs. Indicate it visually by having the glow in the breakoff area fade for the duration. Once the breakoff is actually broken, he becomes permanently vulnerable. I'd probably also make his party wipe deathballs, the rocket punch in green mode, the first hit of the 2-hit combo in gold mode and the last hit of the charging uppercut in orange mode all red attacks. I would, however, slow down the channeling time on the black ball move to give players more time to get behind the barrier or for a lynn to flinch him.
Also, I believe the S2 raid scaling in KR is now the same as S3. Solo is 45% of the full 8-man party's HP.
>>122977326
Just remove (or at least lower the duration of) his farting attack and i'd be fine with anything.
>>122980598
I honestly don't think the ground fire attack is a problem, outside of the obvious issue that it remains active while the boss is knocked down.
The original concept of Colru is that each of his movesets heavily favour certain classes over others. Grey destroys most iframe classes that simply can't keep up with the long combos and active frames, but is trivial for fiona, pillar karok and hurk, who all have ways of dealing with those attacks and dealing damage; Gold is trouble for slower classes that have trouble dealing with its small openings and short downtimes between attacks, but is great for characters that can get in quick damage during the gaps between his attacks, like TS vella/lann; Green is a problem for any melee class (except fiona and karok post-revamp) but great for ranged classes; and orange is good for the slower classes like scythe evie and lynn thanks to the longer opening and shorter attacks and is also just generally easier than the other 3.
Anymore, almost every class has some way of dealing with the fire shockwave and still dealing damage. Lann can slipdash->doublecrescent, Fiona can counter it, etc. If it was still the 'melee no fly zone' it was back when Colru was new, it'd be a problem, but the fact that certain melee classes simply have fewer chances to deal damage during the green mode is fine considering that every sort of character has at least one mode where they have a harder time dealing damage.
>>122981736
Yeah,i shouldn't have said remove but i do find that its duration is a bit long.
But still i have to agree that Colru is one of the more fun raids in the game.
>broke my +12 raider staff going for 13
>had divine punishment on
>9.5k ap to recover
yeah...
>>122984853
>raider
It's nothing, m8.
>>122985523
yeah but its a remnant of old days you know..
still, speed was awesome, crit was off the charts.
im only 80 so yeah, i realise its not insane loss and a +6 80 will be better but damnit if i dont feel bad for being stupid.
>>122985915
How do people manage to yolo their way up to +14/15 anyways, from a probability stand point it's ridiculous, are there really that many +10s for people to experiment with?
>>122981736
I liked how green and grey made small shield actually viable for Fiona back then. It was just about the one raid where small shield wasn't useless. It doesn't matter now, but that's a whole other issue.
>>122984853
Just revive it, then. It's not like you really lost anything if you can.
>>122989661
cash/legit hackers.
we had an epidemic of +15s 3 years ago when a group of hackers managed to sell a pretty hefty amount of +15 weapons. nexon did a wide ban spread and everything.
>>122989698
im not at maxed AP yet, close though.
also, just tried +8ing a 80 staff off the market, never had such bad luck, ever. 77 dura when +7 and im not risking it anymore.
>>122989661
If we take the stated probability to be accurate, the success rate from +10 onwards is 1/3.
If you revive your weapon and try again, each weapon is effectively 2 rolls, which means each +10 has, on average, a 55.6% chance of making it to +11. That probability is consistent all the way to +15. If you have a +14 that hasn't been revived yet, it has a 55.6% chance of reaching +15 across 2 attempts. Unrevived weapons statistically favour success, which means on average it shouldn't take more than 2 fresh weapons to reach the next enhance level. 3 if they can't be revived again. In the end, you don't actually need all that many +10s to end up with a +15. Enough to make it impractical to buy your way straight to a +15 80 or 90 weapon at the current prices, but a 70 is certainly within the realm of possibility, as is a 60. With the sheer amount of attack you get off R7 scrolls, even a +15 60 is still relevant at 90.
When you consider a healthy number of players are whales pouring rune after rune into making those +10s, the number of 15s running around in the server currently is pretty believable.
>>122989698
I have fond memories of Colru since I actually got to use my small shield in there. Elchulus is the only other raid I used it on back then, but dragons had a whole other set of issues.
Really the reason old raids are easy is just stat inflation and power creep. If they change some of the old raid gimmicks to red unblockable and pad up the stats they'd be decently challenging again.
The one raid change I'd urgently want is a flinch animation for ogres (and Titan). It's mostly for Lynn, but animation resets just look bad and make it annoying to play as and with flinch characters.
>>122989661
I had a +10 regina spellsword sitting on my 85ish Arisha for a really long time. After some update I decided I should break it and pass on the materials for gearing another character. It went 10-14 over the course of about five minutes before breaking.
When it comes down to it, it's Vindictus RNG being Vindictus RNG. My Karok has trouble reaching +10 without coupons and has yet to get anything above 10.
>>123001101
I think I've mentioned this before in this thread but their randomization is very likely done by server time, and depending on the way it's implemented, that could mean that certain times and dates could result in the actual success rate being lower or higher than intended if it's done in a poor way.
And since the icecube event proved that they seed inventory contents as a randomization factor, that could be an influence as well. Though I've never seen any empirical data to support it, most weaponsmiths I've talked to insist on running a battle between each enhance and claim that doing so makes them succeed more often. The anecdotal tendency to believe that could be read as a sign of inventory seeding, though it's really anybody's guess.
The fact of the matter is that the odds of actually reaching +15 are so slim that any numbers we glean are going to seem anomalous due to the sample size. The game's population simply isn't large enough. If every player still active right now started enhancing a +10 weapon, odds are that nobody would end with a +15.
>>122999684
Oh yeah, I forgot about Elchulus too. Man, S1 was the shit.
>>123013589
Shame Elch was a shit fight cause of running away and flying all the time. Elch during Kai release made me want to kill myself with all those longbow only Kais kiting him forever.
>>123019409
>tfw you will never watch a Kai flinch 24man Elch during his fire attack and kill half the party ever again
Literally the only good memory I have of that boss.
>>123021506
I liked how it would wipe out all the lowbies with a cheap-shot fire-breath during the black screen after his cut-scene.
>>122972823
s2 caps at 21k, 18k is only for ep 4 and iset
>>122993981
+10 - 12 is 40% success
+13 and on is 33%
Also you start at +0 again if you boom for good, so you still have to work your way up to your previous rank. Not to mention you only get to boom once, not every step of the way
>>123021506
>tfw new players will never experience running that boss 3x per character on 6+ characters every week in the hopes of getting a tear for Apoc gear
>tfw new players will never know suffering
>>123024671
>tfw you were in the party when elchulus dropped a 5star weapon for someone
The one upside to hyper-ultra-mega-once-in-a-lifetime rare drops was the sheer hype at witnessing proof they even exist.
>>122999684
They did that with niflheim to some degree, which were actually pretty decent.
>>123024671
>>123025378
>tfw got blue tear and someone whispered me "what level are you?" thinking I was some lvl 40 scrub who got lucky
>tfw tear was only worth like 80m back then instead of 500m when it first released
>>123027237
>jump event
>friend and i farm elch
>afk in pools and barriers
>friend gets a tear after 5 runs
>i get a tear soon after
>300m tears
HAHHEHSAHEHAHEWOOOOOO
>>123032603
>Farmed Elch 9 times a week for months
>Never got a tear
>Have never gotten a tear to this day
Least I got a +15.
>>123035039
>Not farming it 24x a week
Are you even dedicated bro?
Whens clover event
Are FilthyCasuals still active or is the guild ded ?
>>123047269
I don't think we'll be having one of those until next summer, that's usually when they start pushing out events that get people to return to the game.
Only a few more weeks until Hagie or EP4 arrives, wake me up already.
>>123054734
H A G I E
>>123054734
Will Episode 4 have more content than a singular raid battle?
>implying anyone gives a single fuck about anything that isn't a raid battle
>>123066995
It has one map like Ben10 stuff we've had previously and one raid.
>>123066995
It has another map.
Unfortunately, the map is shit. It's the longest of the 3, still uses the same wood elf midbosses and also throws in a fucking werewolf from S1 Episode 4 because who doesn't love recycling content in a completely out of place environment?
There are these neat sort of stone robogolem things and a unique endboss, but it's probably not worth the extra 5 minute cleartime over a bench run.
I just started season 2. Is it supposed to be this difficult? Bosses do brazillians of damage and have 10x health bars that don't move very quickly.
>>123069538
What level are you, what level are you doing, and what are your equips?
>>123069719
I'm 72 doing the first missions, like Chief of Death and the Wasp.
I'm wearing full wonderland with the scythe of caresses. I know I should have a 70 weapon but it's only around 1000 more MATK and doesn't help me not die to bullshit at all
>>123069538
S2 will be a big difficulty spike from S1 because there's a gear jump. If you're soloing map bosses, you'll want to aim for around ~15k attack in order to clear things in reasonable amounts of time. If you're finding it too difficult, try the 50-69 difficulty instead of the 70-80. That difficulty level is there specifically for players just transitioning from S1 that don't have the gear or stats to do the higher difficulty yet.
As for the damage they do, yeah that's just what they do. Devcat tried to compensate for the fact that near the end of S1, people had been able to stack so much defense that they trivialized map bosses, so they just made everything in S2 do millions of damage. My best advice to you is just to learn the boss' patterns and don't get hit. Take your time with them, being risky isn't going to make them die any faster. For the most part, the S2 map bosses only have like 2-3 attacks that they cycle through, so just learning their pattern and staying safe is a pretty quick lesson.
>>123070465
Right now I only have 12-13k MATK, would the extra 2k really make it that big of a jump in killing speed?
>>123071027
Yeah, a few thousand attack is a pretty big difference. It's a really easy improvement to make at this stage.
/why/
>>123077509
Can we please not be dead. I just want to not be dead.
>>123077984
I kinda want to play, but I really don't want to make my account ineligible for whatever returning mercenary event they're gonna run with Hagie, sorry mate
>>123078370
When was the last time they held an event that rendered you ineligible if you had played recently?
I literally can't think of one.
>>123077984
Play an alive game then
>>123078903
But I like this one. Besides,. name a single alive game that's even halfway decent right now. Protip:you can't
>>123078616
The 90 day returning player package
