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>What is Blade & Soul?
Blade & Soul is a Korean fantasy martial-arts MMORPG developed by Team Bloodlust(NCsoft). The game is heavily grounded in Chinese culture and martial-arts, and was praised for its dynamic combat and high skill-cap PvP. Currently in Korea, its one of the most played games and even has an esports scene that is fairly popular.
>Whats is the class system like?
Currently there are 8 classes with only 7 on NA release. There is no trinity of roles but instead, certain classes act as tanks in PvE while most classes have a self heal or lifesteal ability. Another unique thing is how classes can interact with each others CC to use certain abilities, such as grabs and tackles.
>Why is it getting such an uproar now?
The North American Version of Blade & Soul was recently announced and is entering Closed Beta Testing soon.
>Weekend 3: Nov 24, 10am PST - Nov 30, 10pm PST
https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/forums/index.php?/topic/139611-welcome-to-the-blade-soul-closed-beta/
>Skill tree preview
https://bnstree.com/ (ahead of NA version)
>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/COSTUMES
>24 hour Discord Link
https://discord.gg/0diTt6guoRzFk8cT
>Official Confirmed Beta Clans
Mushin is main server Iksanun is the secondary server if you don't want queue times.
You can choose a faction in Bamboo Village. If one is full, you can switch later in Jadestone village
>Clans:
NFA - Mushin, Red Faction
H Scene - Iksanun, Blue Faction
Make a post replying to the OP with your IGN and server for an invite.
>More Info (including BnS TW, character presets and class rundowns):
http://pastebin.com/9ztU0NcY
Previous Thread: >>122528132
First for LBMs are cancer and you should feel bad.
My Characters is cuter than Your Character
all the gongirls
i'm a guy
>>122707662
My character can beat up your character
How are you anons passing the time until beta starts up again?
>>122707743
WHOA MAN ME TOO
>>122708063
pirated fallout 4 and a lot of martial arts films on netflix
>>122708037
>>122707662
Mine is both
>>122707697
i'm a girl irl btw desu senpai
>>122708063
I sleep for 23 hours, wake up to see if the game is deciding to release early, then go back to sleep.
I will have the strength to pull 5 all-nighters over the beta and you cunts can't stop me.
>>122708193
>martial arts films on netflix
Which ones do you recommend? Specifically I've been in particular interested in some proper wuxia, but I have no idea where to start.
i have founder, but i've missed cbt 1 and cbt 2 due to some irl issues
is starting this late a bad idea, should i even bother next cbt
>>122708409
It's all getting wiped anyway, and I hit 45 in just over two days with hardcore grinding. You've still got well over ten days left of overall beta.
>>122708409
Why would you not bother, anon? It's all what you make of it right now, nothing's going to get carried off to the live release.
>>122708063
I'll just watch your Webm until it releases, shooting load of cum.
>>122708274
I don't think humans work like that.
>>122708398
Hero and crouching tiger hidden dragon are the ones that got popular in the west.
>>122708398
Anything Jackie Chan in Chinese.
>>122709736
They may not work that way, but I've done it before, and my determination will pull me through once more.
I plan on dying before I'm 40 and having to deal with the inability to play games as well as I once did. If this shaves 20 years off my life each time I do it, then I'll gladly make the trade.
>>122710212
I
HATE
U
HAHAHA
>>122708398
>>122709898
Ong bak for some sweet tony jaa action, kung fu hustle if you want a comedy.
>>122710263
baka desu senpai
>>122708063
Can't play other servers because shitty ping, so making characters/recreating shit to kill time.
posting cool shit from beta
4 fm party what a breeze
>>122717542
I did a BN run with 5 kfm and me as an assassin.
>>122715904
Probably an over-repeated question but you got her sliders?
>>122718608
https://www.mediafire.com/?wu55q7au38acj6o
Does anyone know if the 3% heal per hit perk for Grapple applies to the Airborne Grapple?
hi
What reason is there to play this instead of Tera
>>122722383
tera's "action" combat is garbage
>>122722383
superior loli game
>>122722458
this is very true
>>122722530
is the character creation + accessorization on par/better?
>>122722567
The character creation is much better/more in-depth. There are a few BS restrictions that BnS has, but lets you do more than Tera did.
>>122722219
It does but you have better places to spend points and kfm really shouldn't be grappling as they usually have the best deeps.
>>122722736
>>122722458
Alright, I'm sold
>>122722219
I'm talking about PvP. Just about the only points I'd lose in taking this is that I don't get the Glacial defense shit, and I'm not complete garbage so I can reliably bait out escapes resulting in constant grapples. It just gives me another option over CC chain into anicancel spam. I prefer the playstyle, but taking the grapple perk doesn't hurt my playstyle, anyway, because I don't rely on the glacial stuff.
Grapple healing gives you a means of reliably fighting LBMs that want to play lame, since I can land 2 - 3 grapples on them per fight, which is at-least 45% of my health back, or 30% + anti-defense skills.
On every screenshot i see the texture look glossy and low res, is this how the game is at max setting ?
>>122723478
Meant for
>>122722910
>>122723478
Right now with the lack of level 50 and hong moon you have very much more important places to spend points.
>>122724340
Majority of KFM builds take the points in Glacial Defense. I just happen to be reallocating those points to another spot on the exact same tree, which costs the same.
I've been using the standard build which involves shroud until now, but the healing on sky grapple only just came to my attention, but I didn't have the means to test it.
>official BnS forums
>people crying saying we need a dedicated healer class
>people saying you don't get enough potions and dumplings
Why are there so many people complaining about this?
How fucking bad are they at the game?
How the fuck do you think there isn't enough potion or dumpling drops when it drops they drop off every other group of mobs and are given to you at the end of every dungeon.
The fuck?
>>122726137
>playing summoner
>get dumpling & healing tonic from every single chest I find in dungeons
>drops all the time regularly
>quests throw them at you
>the whole time your doom n' bloom is able to heal you to full in combat so you don't need to stop anyway
>they just keep piling up
I wish I could give my stockpile to these people, but they'd still complain
>>122726137
I've played warlock, KFM, Des, and BM to 45 and I got my ass to 22 in over the last beta weekend even though I didn't have much time. The only time I've ever used potions and food was on the assassin. They really can't take a hit and the other classes have skills that heal them a crap ton. Des you just grab and heal, the other ones you block and dodge a couple of attacks and you're back up, assuming you speced for healing on block and dodge. Also they need to just give a heal on crit gem. Most important gem in the game and new players don't know about it.
>>122726137
this just makes me really worried because so many people are bitching and NCWest are pussies who will probably give in and ruin the game.
>>122727289
A healer doesn't automatically ruin the game. There are many people who like to play support but no such thing exists.
>>122709120
TRIGGERED
Overseas veterans are the cancer of this game.
My defense spec summoned steals aggro, and still don't lose much health, before I knew it in JP, I was nearing 600 tots in my storage. Fortune Elixers were so much better, I never paid the lesser one any mind.
Then I learned summoners are pretty much immune to death due to all the resurrection skills we get. You just throw your dead body at the bosses over and over until your weapon breaks.
>>122728048
Well those people like to play healers then they can take their fucking asses to another god damn MMORPG.
>>122727289
The West will have basically zero impact on the game, let alone an entire class that goes against the grains of the game and its original design.
A game that's been out for 4 - 5 years and isn't even fully released to us won't be swayed by our opinions at all. Fucking nothing will happen. They're just complaining because they're austists.
>>122728451
by ruin the game I mean all the casuals will quit and the game will have to be shut down and I'll have to play on a laggy asian server again
>>122727289
>>122728292
Honestly, if the PvE content is made significantly easier just by being able to heal more, then it's much more indicative of the PvE content just being garbage to begin with than anything else.
I'd argue that having a healing class would actually do some good, boss mechanics might have to be implemented better than just 'avoid da big attack'.
>>122728654
Casuals will quit even if the game was perfectly catered to their designs. Heck, there are casuals likely to quit because they feel as though they've experienced everything via the beta. That's why they're casuals.
>>122728349
I love playing supports/healers. But I really love that this game doesn't have one. I fully plan on doing nothing but punching shit.
>>122728830
Damn straight.
>>122728048
Then they should honestly play a different game.
I agree with the consumables part though. They're way too restricted at lower levels. It may not be a problem for veterans(or people who just happened to pick a class which handles ranged/multiple mobs well).
When I was levelling my first character ever my experience with consumables was extremely negative.
>>122728830
I like being able to tell who's shit and who isn't, without them having the fallback excuse of "Healer wasn't doing their job/tank wasn't keeping aggro"
Will BnS have a Competitive scene in the West?
Ncsoft will push it here?
>>122723824
>On every screenshot i see the texture look glossy and low res, is this how the game is at max setting ?
I've heard that in-game screenshots does not capture anti-aliasing. Better to use a 3rd party screen capturer.
>>122729047
play destroyer
win everything
>Publisher NCSoft West has announced the release date of its anticipated MMO, Blade & Soul. The game will be launching in North America and Europe on January 19, 2016 at 12AM EST. Players who purchase a Founder's Pack will get a head start on January 15.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hugely-popular-mmo-blade-and-soul-gets-western-rel/1100-6432406/
It's something.
>>122728786
are you an idiot?
adding a healer class means people would just sit there and take damage instead of actually doing mechanics
>>122729768
>404
Have I been bamboozled?
>>122729901
Use google cache
>>122729768
>>122729901
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HW7rR9kPFkEJ:www.gamespot.com/articles/hugely-popular-mmo-blade-and-soul-gets-western-rel/1100-6432406/
caches version
>>122728786
They need to do two things. Remind people to upgrade their pizzas, every one should at least buy the token pizzas when they're available, and do a gem making tutorial (go to inventory/click on the icon/make squares then pentagons etc) and how then tell them that the heal on crit gem is important to every class.
how are the pvp battlegrounds in asian regions?
>>122707697
>>122726137
Here's the thing. For Blade and Soul veteran players or people who already played lot of MMOs, sure the potions/dumplings isn't an issue. (I ended 45 with like 90 of each...)
Likewise for people who just rush through leveling. Who cares right? In <2 days you get to 45 and you'll have more than enough consumable. Worse comes to worse, you'll have the currency to acquire these anyway.
Now, the average guy who never played an MMO before or only played games where consumable are easily obtainable, this can be problematic. It can be shocking to a new player than ONE dumpling basically cost (almost) ALL your currency up until level ~15 and a sizable amount of your total currency up to level 30. You typically obtain your first gold in the game at level 32~38 (depending on how you manage your money).
Spending 6% of your total currency just for one basic restorative item can be seen as problematic by these players. They just don't want to look further than "NPC is selling me something for 6 silver" + "I have 50 silver on hands" = "OMG TOO EXPENSIVE"
I know that the game throw these at you. But you feel it this way because you progress fast and efficiently. Some people are slow to level up and will spend hours doing "non efficient" things such as trying to get full Bagua sets in low level dungeons instead of keeping leveling up. They will waste restorative items in the process and have a negative balance the more they keep running dungeons (especially if they do so with beginners and/or bad players).
What we need to do is communicate to new players better that the price are what they are because they are flat. Low level players aren't supposed to spend 6 silver on a potion. I personally still find it weird that NPCs in low level areas are selling items which aren't supposed to be purchased by low level players. You'd expect some kind of level 1-20 only potions sold for few coppers instead.
I like dumplings.
>>122708885
who is this semoni demoni?
>>122735062
This is silly though.
Completely new to the game and I have like 70 dumplings and constantly flirt with 100 tonics at level 35.
I have decent MMO experience, but I'm not exactly amazing or anything.
>>122732972
you look like a fag
>They let some literal who do a highlight for FM
>He picks a lyn
>>122736148
Isn't that Akiva? Or the clnoe without the ayylmao eyes.
>>122728048
No, a healer totally absolutely ruins the game.
Besides the fact that it makes PvP an utter chore whenever you fight against them (clerics in Aion were CANCER), the entire game would have to be rebalanced on the assumption that you have a healer in the party. It's either that or their healing is so ineffectual that you don't even give a shit, in which case they're better off specced for more damage anyway.
>>122728349
Fucking this.
>>122735062
>You'd expect some kind of level 1-20 only potions sold for few coppers instead.
Knowing NCwest they're gonna at least do this, they've done much worse things in the past to please their cash income.
>>122735062
I know the game isn't even released yet but is there even an estimate on how fast content is going to get released at?
>>122738108
TW is probably a good indicator. If we don't launch with Poh, expect it a week or two after launch. BSH and Mushin Tower a month after launch. Few weeks after, Spiral Labyrinth and Mushin Tower floor 8. Then about a month and some change before Silverfrost Mountain (which comes with Warlock).
This is an extremely brisk pace, mind you, and TW players were having a difficult time keeping up with this release schedule. This is especially true if you decide to play more than one class (and why not?).
>>122738108
Fast enough.
>>122738108
Anon, you are already browsing a general on 4chan months before the game gets released. These two things alone put you way above the average player. And you have previous MMO experience, many don't.
I think you have no idea how many players don't think about anything and rush to forums the minute something isn't supposed to be the way -they- want it to be.
But people collecting feedback (the team I'm part of) are able to do some triage and determine what needs to be changed and what shouldn't. We won't escalate ridiculous request/ideas. Regardless of the quantity of feedback we receive.
>>122737261
I don't think that's planned as far as I know. But even if we were to do this, I don't really see how it would affect your own experience. Don't forget that you will need these casual players later on in the game to take advantage of them economically-wise.
Who's going to sell you cheap Hongmoon coins? Not hardcore players most likely, but those who are finding themselves struggling to progress or those who simply don't even have the time to farm. Who's going to overbid or underbid on items in dungeons? Not B&S Veterans who already know what's rare and what isn't. Who's going to sell you cheap materials at AH etc.
Making a game more accessible at lower levels isn't a bad thing. We want to retain players. It's good for us because... well we make more money. But it's also good for you because you can take advantage of them if you are smart. It makes the game more lively too overall. If everyone was just super hardcore and only playing efficiently, servers would be a bit sad.
>>122739109
really hope this is pretty close to there release schedule and we get caught up pretty fast, then release newest upcoming content 3-5 months from silverfrost and NA can try and compete next year at esports
>>122739276
>I think you have no idea how many players don't think about anything and rush to forums the minute something isn't supposed to be the way -they- want it to be.
That being said, freewardrobplease.
>>122735062
>bagua
It's soul shields you fucking faggot, you change it you fucking stick with it.
>>122739521
>free wardrobe
>being a poorfag
>>122739521
As Nico already said on official forums, most likely not happening and he's the one calling the shots on this.
>>122739862
Will BnS NA get any exclusive costumes before other regions? Do you guys work on stuff like that? Or just simply stick to purely the marketing and distribution? Pretty sure I saw some concept arts floating around
>>122739862
Can you at least bring up making the faction costumes free in the wardrobe? Seeing as those are actually necessary. I don't know if that's logistically possible though.
>>122740086
That's not excluded. Obviously we wouldn't design costumes in here, Korean DEVs would, but it's definitely something we can do. Would have to check with Nico if things like that are already planned.
>>122740104
I'm not sure if it's possible, but even if it was, that's a lot of work for very little.
>>122739276
do you guys get together and laugh at stupid people on the forums during your breaks?
>>122740389
I assume your employer knows you post on 4chan. NCwest is okay with posting on a site full of terrorists and pedophiles, according to the media and other web sites?
>>122741014
heil hitler
>>122741014
post Lyn butt
>>122741136
no
>2015
>having a dead threadI really wish this hair didn't part and leave a huge bald spot
>>122740579
I won't say "stupid people", but laughing at things happen at any time of the day. We don't have to be on break for that. And it's not only forums, but social media, emails, in-game etc. too. We are human and yes we laugh.
Now professionalism also mean that even if you laugh, you keep it to yourself you don't share it to the outside world. Exactly how like some clerk in a shop might think that you're an annoying customer but won't say it to your face.
I have to say however that I was laughing more when I was supervising customer support at SQEX. Customer Support is typically the best department for laughs.
>>122741014
>according to the media
Yeah well, if we start like that, we shouldn't say anything anywhere anymore. How many media said that video games or internet forums are a threat? What matters to me is this thread. People here are interested in Blade & Soul (to more or less extent) so it makes sense for me to interact with them.
We're talking about 2015's 4chan also. This isn't 2004's /b/... This thread is pretty calm.
>>122741675
Muscle sliders that act like the aging sliders.
Likely to happen y/n?
>>122741878
At launch? Not likely. After? Don't know.
>>122741675
>This isn't 2004's /b/
So this lacks creativity and interesting threads?
>>122741940
I just want to have bear-mode men and amazonian ladies.
>>122741994
Looks like it's interesting enough to keep you coming back and replying. Sure when it comes to creativity, we all agree on that.
We're not going to do a debate on how 4chan changed in the past decade, been (sadly) there for that long and I've seen it evolving as well.
But saying that posting here could be ill perceived due to the "reputation" of 4chan is a complete non-sense. There's a difference between posting everywhere and focusing on a single /vg/ thread which is dedicated to the product you work on.
>>122742549
>Looks like it's interesting enough to keep you coming back and replying.
Shitposting is one hell of a drug.
I was just wondering because of the negative connotations with any connection to 4chan.
What time do the weekend betas open up?
How many of you bought the most expensive founder pack?Is it worth it?
>>122742773
What about reading the fucking OP anon
>>122742549
What was the reason for the custom built patch that primarily removes good things that other regions have? JP, for example, had you receive everything on the daily roll wheel that you went past, not just the one shitty antidote you landed on.
Additionally, lower level quests lost things like the specialized keys. Sure, later on you get the Moonwater Key from a quest, but the first key you can get was completely removed, forcing people to go through hours of grinding BN for their breakthrough weapon, only to receive the Warlock weapon six times over. On another note, thanks for leaving in the Warlock weapon without Warlocks.
>>122742915
idk how i missed that
so why are they called beta weekends if they're tuesday to monday
>>122742909
It's like 90 dollars worth of nc coin and a few months of vip however much that is going to cost. Then the rest of the money is for a nice looking chinese dress and a cow boy suit because the other perks are meh.
>>122743017
Lots of factors. But basically when it comes to the Daily Dash, it simply made the progression a breeze (not to say a complete joke). It's just way too rewarding, especially for the launch of the game.
When you compare it with TW, you are comparing to TW right now or on day 1? Also KR on day 1 didn't have any of that and had it way more rough. So people shouldn't complain really. The 1>45 experience isn't that long right now. No real reason to make it even faster, same thing applies for keys.
As for Warlock drops, the difference between 1/7 and 1/8 is marginal. You're not getting 6 times WL weapons because WL weapons are in but because you are unlucky. It's called probability.
Yes 1/8 is worse than 1/7, but on paper it only means that you are farming 14.4% longer because of that. Multiply that by the average amount of time you spend trying to acquire Purple breakthrough weapons and you'll see how marginal the impact is. Complains we are getting from players are completely irrational on this, which is rather common when it comes to RNG and MMO since players are unable to understand the basics of probability...
Does the NA version has blood?
I remember the CH version has an option to enable and disable it.
>>122740389
>>122742549
While you're here, do you have an ETA on when we'll know the names of the launch servers so we can pick what server be playing on ahead of time for purposes of clan/community coordination?
>>122743640
Probability is probably, but leaving in the weapon has zero significance. If you guys could remove an entire class, I doubt it'd take much effort to remove Warlock weapons. As much as you're aiming to seem like a professional, that makes it seem as though the patch designing team is anything but.
It's equally irrational to have left the weapons in in the first place, which have literally zero purpose in the game in its current state, than it is to say people complaining about them are irrational.
>>122743980
There isn't a master switch on weapon drops. They would have to go in each dungeon, each area, each vendor, and change it. Then undo it when it comes out. With choosing your class they just take the one option away. It's a lot of work for something they're probably going to change back in like 2-5 months.
>>122743640
>people sold their original weapon which was the break through weapon and had to buy it back for 2x the amount of silver they would've had at that point
Good times.
>>122743640
>i-it's only 14%! wh-who cares!
lol
both of your counter points are awful
>>122744252
That's what happens when someone tries to remain 'professional' and starts doing damage control. Has to create red herrings and blame problems on others.
>>122743946
Not yet sorry, we will do our best to communicate these ahead of time.
>>122743980
It's not irrational at all. Locking a class is just flipping a switch. Modifying all loot tables? A nightmare that would requires tons of extra QA and could lead to breaking more things.
And there would be a double risk there, at launch (when weapons would get removed) and post-launch, when WL would get introduced.
>>122744161
But they could sure as hell go into the code and remove the way the daily roll worked, remove an entire class, an entire five levels worth of content, and create a build that was labeled as a 'tournament build' when it came to class balancing.
It's not even a case of using a pre-50 build that KR used. It's creating an entire new build that mixes and matches things. Clearly, they added in the Warlock patch as part of the mix and match. They just didn't remove everything relating to it.
And now it's irrational to question it.
>>122744479
>remove an entire class, an entire five levels worth of content,
These 2 take one line of code to do each and removal of menu assets on character creation for the one.
The daily spin looks a lot like the cn version and I don't know what the 'tournament build' is so I won't comment.
>>122744798
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the coding language used simply ignores errors made (ie. a missing line of code) and attempts to continue on, rather than giving errors.
Because, if that was the case, just as you could remove the line that locates where the class information is, you could also remove the line that locates where the individual Warlock weapons are. It would take an equal amount of time. The usage of an entire class is going to be a lot more prevalent than the usage of Warlock weapons. That's not including any code related to the class when it comes to arena, class-specific quests (ie. Hongmoons), or anything related.
An entire five levels of content, but the endgame quests still tell you to go to the maps which were released with these level of content. It's still incredibly unprofessional.
>>122745184
>It's still incredibly unprofessional.
>NCSoft
I thought this was a given.
>>122745286
NCWest should be treated like an entire different company outside NCsoft, they're beyond incompetent. No other MMO company in the world deletes old accounts for being inactive. To boot they have a grill as head manager, at least for BnS.
>>122744479
To put things simply, in MMOs many things are chained together. When you want to restrict players to access something, you don't remove all of it but you only break the chain so it prevents players from accessing the rest of it.
For Warlock, we just need to disable it at character creation, that's it. It's just a flag that can be turned on and off. When it comes to the "5 levels worth of content", if you prevent players from completing the quest leading to Act IV, you're already there. For the maximum level it's just a value to change.
Locking away content is extremely easy. The content is still out there, but you aren't able to access it. It's not as if we physically removed all that content and all related dependencies from the game (that's why you can still see get some Naryu Silver in Beta for example, even if you cannot do anything with those yet.) We're not crafting a new build from scratch but just adding blockers here and there. By just removing couple NPCs and couple quests we can restrict you from accessing a whole continent and lot of instances.
It's a lot way easier and faster to QA than modifying all loot tables and testing them. It's also a way safer and flexible approach. That way, if we decide to release content ahead of time (for whatever reason), implementation can be quick. That enables us to be extremely reactive.
>>122745184
>remove the line where the individual Warlock weapons are
I program in html and have hacked at least fifty Gibsons
>>122745568
>To boot they have a grill as head manager, at least for BnS.
And what does that have to do with anything?
>>122745579
So, what you're saying is that after three years of apparent translating, translating was all that was done? If it's simple enough just to prevent the selection of Warlock, then damn. Seems like the people in charge of the custom patch went for the lazy route. It must have taken all of a few days to remove every line of coding if it's that simple. Wonder where the rest of the time went.
>>122745739
Censoring and giving "le stronk womyn warrior" posses to Gon maybe?
>>122745739
I
HAVE
A
VAGOO
>>122745939
those new ones are so cringey
>>122745939
>censoring
You realize it's easier to see proportions on literally every other race now right? And all the poses always sucked for character creation. And you never see any of them ever again anyway.
>>122745939
At first I wasn't a fan of them changing the underwear, but I actually like it better. Hopefully they'll bring the old underwear back as a costume
>>122746089
lol
>>122746089
>And all the poses always sucked for character creation. And you never see any of them ever again anyway.
Yeah, nah, fuck you.
The poses were there to give alternate angles to view your character from.
I think I'm just gonna nix this entire character and hit the drawing board again.
Except for the hair, cause I like that hair.
>>122746089
Shamu holy shit just fuck off already.
>>122746143
Of course they're gonna bring it back later silly goyas cash shop outfit
>>122746339
You literally did everything wrong.
>Eyes way too close together
>Nose squished to hell. Nose tips should end at the corners of the eyes folks.
>Ducklips
What where you THINKING?!
>>122746696
I have no idea.
I'd do heavy tweaking, but I can't unsee it.
>>122745579
When KR gets their big new patch in December will we get balance changes pretty quickly in accordance with that patch and still be locked at 45? Or will we be using the current balance patch for quite a while?
>>122717542
Isn't blackram a ~25-30 dungeon?
>>122749353
It's ~level 20, and a lot of people queue from 17 - 20.
>>122749560
I queued at level 18, got matched with a 17 and four around thirty
two of the ones at thirty immediately quit so I assumed they were mad & the dungeon was too hard
Especially seeing as I got two shot by pretty much anything in the dungeon
>>122749353
It's 20'ish, but I've seen people from 15.
>tfw starting the first miniboss while people are still on the bridge
>>122749642
>>Especially seeing as I got two shot by pretty much anything in the dungeon
Git gud.
Posting hammers while we wait for video game to come back online.
Everyone's busy sleeping
>>122727289
Giving new players more dumplings and potions won't do anything to ruin the game. The leveling is easy and fast enough already. They won't magically suddenly get good at max level and roll through endgame content for free stuff.
I can kinda see why they need them. I played BnS shitfaced drunk for one evening and woke up to zero potions and zero dumplings. Played properly for a few hours and I was up to 20 again. If you play like I did on that evening you're gonna have a shitty time, though.
Hammers cont.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWfJieSPKf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1pbaQBiWag
>>122746384
Who would be dumb enough to buy that uguu black netted mesh underwear?
If you're at the point of dropping some dosh you might as well get a swimsuit.This is coming from a grill btw.
>>122758239
Do you have a vagina?
>>122758239
implying this looks bad in any way
Why do most people in this thread make their characters have disgusting weeb faces?
>>122760593
because it's actually set in chinese mythology you fucking retard?
>>122760670
You should kill yourself if you believe chinese people look like that
>>122760772
You should kill yourself if you don't believe chinese people look like that
>>122761073
: ^)
What practical purpose do Seals have?
launch 19. january 2016
If I buy a founders pack, will I get immediate access to the beta?
>>122763579
yes and also an "early-access period for Founder’s Pack owners—begins on January 15."
>>122763739
I see. Thanks.
>>122763551
Thanks for the Breaking News.
Is Warlock in the NA version?
>>122749353
I like going in when I reach the area right before the black ram are which is level 19/20. 20 also gives acess to the token pizza which makes a big difference. I also was out dpsing level 30+ people because NA still doesn't know how to play and watching people under 20 get 1 shot.
>34 destroyer actually thought he was suppose to just spin instead of anicanceling
>>122766302
Not yet.
Just found an old comment I posted on Youtube to the original BnS trailer over 6 years ago: "I can't wait for CBT."
I can't believe its been that long already.
>>122766457
God damnit, that's all I wanted to fucking play man. Do we know when it will be?
>>122766509
no, but when they add level 50 cap is a good guess.
>>122766579
Guess I'm waiting longer to play then.
Could you guys help me decide which class is for me between destroyer and KFM?
I like lots of damage, good survivability due to playing solo a lot, and good aoe. I also focus mainly on pve if that helps.
>>122767135
I have a level 22 KFM
you don't have much AOE early with just leg sweep followed up by some chaos dunk bullshit
but after you do the quest to alter your abilities you can change your bread & butter damage ability to become a small aoe
>>122767135
Des has the most hp/def and tanks through defense, has high damage and is the best support in the game with the most cc and a useful grab.
KFM tanks via counters and avoidance and has arguably the highest dps in the game.
>>122767413
>des
>tank
hah no
>>122768618
He said he likes to play alone. Therefore he is always the tank.
When is next beta?
>>122769161
Tuesday
>>122769330
why not weekend?
>>122769493Because it's roughly a week long CBT
>>122744349
so how bout them rp servers bruh
Do I get any game time if I buy the cheapest founder's pack? I noticed the other two have 30 and 90 days of "premium membership", what does that mean?
>>122770626
pay2win goy
It's extra xp money sell/buy things on the marketplace anywhere spend your stones on area-based costumes easily etc
convenience that cuts a ton of time out of the grind
>>122770842
Ah ok thanks. What about game time then? Or is this game like Guild Wars, whatever that's called. Where you have to buy the game, but no monthly cost.
>>122771225
Everything is free. You can buy p2w shit if you want but it isn't required other than saving time.
>>122770570
Not planned.
>>122748109
Too early to reply to that sorry.
>>122771360
oki, thanks!
>>122771512
>not planned
B-but muh storywriting that totally isn't degenerate erp smut
>>122708063
By letting everyone know thatI'm a girl, btw ;)
>>122771512
only platin players for arena invitational?
>>122771512
Any idea when we might get some screenshots of the new hairstyle(s) we're apparently supposed to get? I'd like to possibly be able to plan a character around it.
>>122773384
Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure they said they wanted it to be a surprise, so we probably won't see anything until we can save our names.
>>122776863
>they said they wanted it to be a surprise
So we're getting dreadlocks or something equally terrible.
Great.I can't even convince myself that I'm not going to wind up spending all of early access trying to make a character to fit the hair.
>BDO steals BNS founder pack site
>literally said premium points for Blade & Soul on their site
>BDO fans say it's fake
>company posts on forums that it wasn't fake
>b-b-but they have the same developers!
>NCsoft has in-house web developers
>>122717365
>>122717542
How did you get to this menu?
I've done parties for dungeons before and I've never seen this.
I really have no clue how party finder works desu.
>>122777161
No one cares.
>>122777334
Open the party finder thingy, choose go to the cross-server.
>>122777334
f8 for dungeon f9 for pvp
>>122777161
What's even better is that the bdo forums andsubredditare upset over the packs whereas the BnS ones were like "meh, could be better".
Those packs show just how jew Daum Games will be, not only is the game b2p but you can already have a p2w advantage with the 100 dollar pack.
>>122777419
>>122777480
Thanks.
Maybe that's why I wasn't apply to invite people so easily, I kept on getting bugged for "x applied for your party" and couldn't find a direct option for inviting them.
How does the game compare to GW2?
Primarily, does it give me enough freedom of armor customization/clothes, while improving on the rather poor sexiness/physics of GW2? I derive my primary MMO motivation from designing and adventuring as cute girls of various shapes and sizes, how much will the game deliver?
And how casual friendly is it?
It's releasing in January, right?
>You will also have a chance of being selected for the next Closed Beta weekend, which will be live from Tuesday November 24th at 10:00AM PST
>a chance
rip
>>122778429
>How does the game compare to GW2?
Action oriented classes with no dedicated healer.
>Primarily, does it give me enough freedom of armor customization/clothes, while improving on the rather poor sexiness/physics of GW2?
Lots of costumes but no color piece mixing options on them.
>I derive my primary MMO motivation from designing and adventuring as cute girls of various shapes and sizes, how much will the game deliver?
Alot.
>And how casual friendly is it?
I dunno, easy to play hard to master.
>It's releasing in January, right?
yes
>>122778429
>How does the game compare to GW2?
Completely and utterly blows it out of the water in nearly every aspect.
It's an action MMO with no tab targetting and no trinity, but has no shit tier classes in any aspect and the customization for each class is top notch.
>Primarily, does it give me enough freedom of armor customization/clothes, while improving on the rather poor sexiness/physics of GW2?
It gives a pretty fair variety, but it's set outfits and not changeable parts like GW2 has. On the other side, the outfits are way nicer looking and the sexy ones make the sexiest GW2 outfits look prude, especially with the better character models.
GW2 has more varied parts and an option to dye, but that's about it.
> I derive my primary MMO motivation from designing and adventuring as cute girls of various shapes and sizes, how much will the game deliver?
Incredibly. You can put two nice looking characters of the same race next to each other and both can look incredibly different.
>And how casual friendly is it?
Moderately in some ways. Everything can be soloed and they give you a fair bit of consumables, but getting consumables outside of quests and shit is stupid expensive and you really have to git gud to do a lot of things solo.
>It's releasing in January, right?
Yes.
Marry me, Porky!
Any fresh webms?
>>122778867
>>122779282
sounds promising guys, thank you.
I'll definitely keep an eye on it.
>>122779439
There's another CBT coming up on the 24th, you can either watch for key giveaways, try to get one via the newsletter, or try the TW version out to get a taste of it.
>>122777149
hey dredlocks look ok if done right and if they are properly taken care ofthey look like shit on white people though
>>122777767
>have to buy the 100 dollar pack to get into both betas
the fuck is this shit how is this ok? most founder packs give you access to all the betas for a game just none of the really cool shit
Does anyone know when the name reservation is gonna hit?
>>122785959
tomorrow
>>122785959
January 11 on a Monday. I start full-time work that day as well so I hope the name reservation begins in the evening/night and not in the middle of the day. Any idea on the time name reservation begins, Youmu?
>>122787436
>I start full-time work that day as well
RIP
so how many actual dollars does the cash shop stuff go for im not sure if ncsoft adds up their currency in a weird way
>>122787757
I wish I can live the NEET lifestyle forever.
Although I played for just a short time I really had fun in the beta, is the master founder pack worth the price? I'm hovering over the purchase button but I'm curious what ya'll think.
>>122788861
The master's pack is the only one worth purchasing due to all the ncoin and 90 premium sub. So if you simply have to buy a founder's pack, that's the one to get.
>in b4 lol "stupid goy" from some butt angry anon
>>122788861
the master pack cost less then what all the stuff it comes with is so get it if you think it's worth it and if you see yourself playing for more than a month
>>122789240
You can also get the cheapest one to join in on the beta and then refund last minute.
In case you were wondering, I am a girl
>>122789240
lol "stupid goy" from some butt angry anon
>>122789240
>The only one you should buy is the one that you have to shill the most for.
>It's the only one that's worth it.
There isn't even a pricing on 90% of the shit in any of the packs, including the 'this is the only one that's worth it' pack. We don't even know how much Premium is going to cost.
I make more than $25 in the same amount of time I'd get out of the $25 pack, so it's worth it as far as I'm concerned.
>>122789240
Yeah that's what I gathered too. I saw a video on YouTube specifically reviewing each tier and he said pretty much the same thing as you.
>>122789327
Yeah I'd like to play on my off hours, it seems like a fun game to chill and wind down with.
>>122788541
Me too, I miss it.
>>122789240
all three seem worth it
the first pack is for the jewmaster that just REALLY needs that 3 day early start to sate his needs
the second pack is for the fast clear. One month, two extra slots and one name reservation & character alteration should be all you need to finish this game
the third pack is for the nolifer
I'd definitely pick the first or the second over the third, because I probably won't play this more than a month after release and I have no clue what I'd do with either the ncoin or premium points
>>122789339
>If I purchase a Founder’s Pack and change my mind, can I get a refund?
>Yes. You can request a refund of your purchase any time before the start of Character Name Reservation. For more information, click here.
>before the start of Character Name Reservation
>>122789692
>We don't even know how much Premium is going to cost.
How much do you think it's going to cost? Not less than 10 a month, I can guarantee you that.
So people on the internet keep saying every class is equally competitive in pvp and it just comes down to skill, but which one is actually the best?
>>122792643
LBM still is, even after the nerfs that they got before NA servers were released.
Followed by Destroyer.
>>122792643
KFM has highest DPS. Best class with ez parry.
>>122792643
S>Warlock, Force Master*
A>Assassin*, Lyn Blade master
B+>Blade master, Destroyer
B>Kung Fu Master*
C>Summoner
*Requires more than average talent to use at the highest level
>>122793061
You're basing those listings on the recent KR tournament results, right? Well, the version we're playing on doesn't have half the buffs that half those classes do. In the future that might be the case, but right now we're still on the 'FM is ass-tier/Assassin is still B-tier patch.'
Half the classes in S rank because of that tournament were buffed in KR patches that we probably won't see for months after release.
>>122793302
In A - S rank*
So if I'm not ass at videogames can I beat up normies playing real classes if I'm playing a summoner? Summoners look cute as fuck.
>>122793061
is Summoner really that shitty?
I was planning on playing one as main on release.
>>122793302
Not the tournament because if that was the case Des would be higher because he got 4th. He would've been mangled if they did a double elimination style. But yeah that's Korean ranks.
For NA
S> Des, LBM (all they have to do is get one good stun combo and they can 100-0 because of level 45 stats)
A> Ass, KFM
B> The other classes with sum and bm fighting for the lowest spot.
>>122793693
This game is basically rock paper scissors when it comes to class matchups. There's no point in listing one over the other. All listings given were pretty much just 'as a whole, this class is X'.
Summoner is fine vs everyone, and they're in no means the worst. They dump on a number of classes without trying, and a good Summoner will shut down all attempts to do combos/skills off CCs, because their cat will CC you in response.
>>122793754
Yes but this is at the top. If you pick summoner you'll still do great because you're a great person.
>>122793807
Yeah, that's pretty much the listing I'd give. That being said, though, I feel it should be noted that this game isn't so much about "This class is the best", but is moreso about 1. rock paper scissors-type matchups with skill providing some factor, and 2. which classes take the least amount of effort to play for the most reward in comparison. That'd be the real reason that LBM and Dest are #1, because they're pretty much carbon copies of one another. It's just a case of 'who can spam spin the most until they manage to land a lucky CC and dunk someone, before returning to spinning'.
A. Warlock
B.
C.
D. All
>>122794132
It's not that much of rock paper scissors. Every class has the tools to do well, some just have better tools.
I also would've rated kfm at S rank because he can do the same as the other two(100-0 in a stun combo) but the other two have a much easier time setting it up.
>>122794337
>2 warlocks in top 8
>2 FM in top 8
>1 warlock in top 4
>2 fm in top 4
That warlock was just beastly.
>>122794484
A good Summoner dunks on a great KFM, A good Assassin dunks on a semi-great FM (and no, I don't consider the Chinese Assassin in that tournament to have been good), a good Dest/LBM ultra dunks an amazing everyone-else.
There's tools that allow every class to compete vs one another, but when all one class has to do is press one skill, guarantee a CC that the enemy then uses their break on, then press another skill and win, I consider it to be RPS. Some classes have pretty heavily favored matchups, not even including Dest/LBM.
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>>122795193
You have no idea what rock paper scissors means, you can't just say make up your own meanings for things. I agree with the rest of what you said but rps doesn't fit at all.
>>122796869
I wasn't going to list every class matchup, but I can.
This game is literally this class > this class, but a few classes have better matchups.
Assassin > FM > Dest > Assassin, for example.
KFM > Dest > LBM > KFM is another.
I can go into detail and list every single matchup, but this game comes down to the core concept of whoever can most reliably land their CC. Every class has a certain amount of CCs and a certain amount of CC breaks/disengages. A Summoner will beat a KFM because a KFM can never go for their 100 - 0 combos against a good Summoner, for example, but a Summon has free reign to throw their unblockable combos on a KFM.
It's literally rock paper scissors, but there's more than three options, so I'd have to go into more detail to categorize them all.
What class is the most efficient farming machine to get gold/resources?
>>122798148
Assassin, purely because they can go perma-stealth and ignore mechanics.
But most quests at endgame are group quests anyway, so I don't think this really matters over the long haul.
>>122797487
LBM>des,kfm
There is no triangle. Also kfm can either sleep the cat or use the cat for free dodge resists. KFM can easily beat sum. Also pvp isn't just about who can do their strong anicancel combos.
Is the steam group really active? do people actually chat there and play other games together? or is it pretty dead?
>>122799374
usually steam groups for specific games are pretty cringe, especially the chat room
unless you want some circlejerk sausagefest, you shouldn't go into the chat ever unless it's required to play together
only two /v/ / /vg/ game specific groups I'm in is dragonball xenoverse's because finding people to pvp with there was much easier than in the thread and king /v/'s gold which has been dead for years but I hope at some point due to some miracle it'll start again
>>122799815
Ah
I don't want to be avagoolost in a sea of neckbeard sausages, thanks for replying.
>>122799374
>steam
It's for ERP.
>>122804163
Alrighty then, I hope to find some lyn sluts to bang!
>>122802520
>JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I AM A GIRL
Why are so many girls interested in the game, god damn it.
I've never seen so many point out that they're a grill in any other general.
>>122805471
they are not girls
>>122805612
I certainly hope so.
Girls ruin vidya.
