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TIME for a new thread ha ha ha

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/adwcta/videos

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com/
http://hearthrank.com/

>Watch and learn quest
https://sites.google.com/site/hsgresources1/battletags/

>Deck Tracker:
https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
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Suggestions?
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BREAKING : ISIS has seized control of Hearthstone EU servers, and will continue to hold them hostage until Ben Brode nerfs Reno.
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Does the prospect of playing arena make anyone else nervous? Just thinking about losing gold all due to shitty RNG and getting nothing out of it..
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>>122618668

A G G R O S H I T T E R
G G R O S H I T T E R
G R O S H I T T E R
R O S H I T T E R
O S H I T T E R
S H I T T E R
H I T T E R
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>>122618716
Think of Arena as you would about gambling on yourself that you can get 3 wins.

Besides, worst case scenario, you're down 50 gold and half an hour of your time.
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>>122618716
Just have fun playing the game, anon
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Who /BM/ here?
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>>122618762

Yes, ISIS are all aggro shitters.
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EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>122618858
I dunno man, Explosive Sheep doesn't seem like an aggro card.
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>try reno warlock today
>against decks that aren't trying to face me down, feel all-powerful like a better handlock, with a million big dudes and board clears and BGH and drawing 2 cards every turn
>against decks that are trying to face me down, feel all-powerful with a million removal spells, MCT, taunts and if I ever draw reno I instantly win the game on the spot

literally the best feel in the game, i'm actually having fun again. i feel like i have no bad matchup as long as i know how to mull correctly and how to play my hands. like fucking handlock on steroids, this shit.
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>eu dead
>third wing delayed by a week in an unironic manner so americans can drink ranch flavoured egg nog

wew lad, wew
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POST

OC
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>>122619084
Didn't you already post that? Reno seems pretty fun, though. Looking forward to getting the gold together to play first wing.
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>>122619010
You can't touch it without it exploding and it keeps hitting face.
Also all the Auchenai we run in this shitty deck won't let us heal
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>>122618858
Where is our Reno to end the aggro and bring the control meta
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>>122619085
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Why the fuck is StrifeCro playing double Obsidian Destroyer over Alex + X in control warrior?
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>>122619351

>tfw buying a double down and it tasted like they microwaved the bacon

felt bad desu
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>>122619171
doesn't always have to be legendaries
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>>122619574
fast food bacon is basically congealed salt
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>>122619171
>8 mana boulderfist that can't defend itself properly
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>>122619259
Not going to happen you kekold.
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>>122619698
How is this good
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>>122619698

so what, executus memeing?
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>>122619782
>trade once when you play it
>suddenly a 5/13 windfury
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>>122619747
game could use more pirates
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>>122619698
Stop posting this shit all the time
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>12/12 blood knight
>turn 3

Y E S
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>>122619845

THRILL!
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Responding to five thread old post because I leave old threads open and then end up reading all the posts in them casually throughout the day.

>>122517841
You would have to reword it if you expect the stats to increase exponentially. With that text effect you would end up with
>Practice Dummy (0)
>Practice Dummy (1)
>Practice Dummy (1)

>Lone Brewmaster (2)
>Knife Juggler (2)
>Practice Dummy (0)
>Mechwarper (2)
Cheapest infinite combo in the game, and instant lethal unless your opponent has boom bots or something that will fuck your shit up upon getting hit.
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wonder when they'll add old gods
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>>122619796
>>122619845
Currently? It doesn't because the game engine doesn't allow it.
What it should say (and do) to work within the HS engine is:

"Battlecry: Discard a minion. Your opponent gains that minion and while it is in their hand the rest of their minions cost 11 more to play."

It's basically forcing your opponent to play a bad card you put in your deck specifically to trigger that legendary, such as Millhouse Manastorm.

Blizzard would never do it, because it requires functions that HS as a game does not currently allow, and it complicates the game in a way that Blizzard wouldn't find healthy.

But that is what the card's writer intended for it to do.
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>>122620319
this is cool but would be fucking broken for shit like druid
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>>122620421
all of them
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dunno if this sort of card could be properly balanced
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>>122619908
I would play Pirate Rogue with Oil if this card happened.
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>>122619171
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>>122620107
Animation time would be too long for this to be lethal

>>122620421
What is /hsg/
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>>122620137
Ashbringer already belongs to Tirion.
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Why do I never draw into my Mill Rogue combo? Is there anything I can do to make the deck more consistent?
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>>122619182
yeah i did but exactly the post before the new thread post so no one saw it.

literal first day playing the deck just for a laugh and i've been destroying everyone from wallet/patron warriors to face hunters with it, it has really impressed me so far and i haven't tweaked it at all from this version. pretty much savjz's deck but with 1 or 2 changes like mountain giant.
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>>122620646
Build an altar to RNGesus
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>>122620512
was intended for oil/prep related rogue shenanigans
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>>122620562
Hearthstone is good about letting you queue up the actions you want to do while the animations are happening. You would be able to lay down practice dummy well over 30, or even 60/90 times before end button goes boom.
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L M F A O

B A S E D J U G G L E R
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>>122619171
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>>122620042
BGH :^)
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>>122620898

L M F A O

R A N K S I X T E E N
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>>122620907
OP as shit
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>>122620319
we posting yoggs?
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>>122619171
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>>122620978
m8 I'm mediocre as fuck, the highest i've ever even been is rank 8 with rogue

doesn't make that juggle any more hilarious
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>>122621006
yoggs are fun
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>>122620919
>>>122620421 (You)
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>dragon priest on 3 hp
>thought steals my tirion
>BMs
>blood knight tirion, then silence it
>attack face with true silver

Aggro paladin is so fun
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>mage medivhs his reno and a silenced malygos

There was literally nothing I could do to win the game at that point.

T-thanks priest blindspot.
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>>122621424
GET IN THERE AND FIGHT, FAGGOT
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Trump @TrumpSC Nov 12
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>>122621835
Too bad he can't cook
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I can't tell if this is underpowered or overpowered
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I've played against rogues that have coin daggered 3 times in a row.

I am rank 7.

What the fuck is going on
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I just started recently, and is the gold farming system supposed to be this slow?

I mean 10 gold for 3 games? holy shit.
Arena seems to be the best bet to make any sort of progress without paying a lot for pixels

am I missing something?
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>>122622162
How would it be OP?
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>>122621835

did fucking that fat white cunt tygar or whatever put him off women for good?
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>>122622336
get good at arena free gold forever
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>>122622453
eat like 3 good effects on top of hp

like stealth and malganis buff?
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>>122622453
The buffs, the deathrattles, the divine shield, the taunt.

Not only are you removing all of these things from your opponent, you're also swinging it to your side of the board, and if it doesn't soak up a silence it's going to dominate
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>>122622336
Quests are 40 - 100 gold a day. You can re-roll your quests if you want one that is easier for you, or one that is valued at more gold. You get 10 gold per three games for up to 100 gold per day. Good players can average 100 - 200 gold profit per arena run, or at least enough to sponsor another arena run and you get a free card pack as well.

Or you could just spend IRL money.
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>>122622540
Health buffs are rare outside of priest. I can't think of a consistent use for it.
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control warrior needs to be nerfed
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>aggro shitters for seven games
>every spell I need on the bottom of my deck for seven games
I'm starting to think blizz purposefully fucks with players.
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>>122622791
yeah it's just a fun card I think

maybe could have some niche deck run it
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>>122622812
A G G R O S H I T T E R
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>>122622898
Control does too well against midrange too

I don't mind freeze mage/hand lock or reno in general.

Just control war
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>>122622508
>>122622660
yeah, guess Ill just do the play every 3 days deal +arena. thanks for the tips, especially the 40-100 gold different rewards for qs.

No way in hell im gonna play 30 games per day at that reward level.
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>play ladder
>4 mages in a row
Go fucking kill yourselves blizzard
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The reign of shredder is over.
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how come none of you niggers have though of reno & panda
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>>122623008
You can only re-roll one quest a day, so do that daily on your worst quest while you're waiting for them to build up.
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>>122623251
good work filling in the necessary girl troll quota
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>>122623534
the fuck does that even mean
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>>122623617
you get an extra turn
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>>122623008
>>122623497
Do your best quests, obviously, and roll the shittiest ones.
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>vs hunter
>his name is entirely Chinese characters
>he plays an entirely metagame tourney decklist
>plays on curve every single turn
>long ass grindy match

kill me
Why can't they stay on their own regions?
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>>122622898
Well Met
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I think this deck is legit. I have an 80% win rate with it from rank 15 to rank 5.

Also: I just fucked up my wallpaper so I guess its time to change it, anyone got a cool hearthstone one? Post em if you got em
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>>122624136
G W A I L O
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>>122624248
>1 LH
>1 Blood knight
>2 secrets
>1 flame juggler
>1 shredder

I don't understand
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post when eu is back up
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Hey guys look, It's fixed.
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>>122624517
Secrets are good turn 1s, unless I draw no 2/1s

Blood knight is so fucking cheesy and useful, people don't expect it. Also tech for secret/annoy o trons

Flame juggler/shredder are coverage

I have only lost 2 games from rank 17 to 10 with this. Retards in these ranks expect secret paladin and don't adjust their play until turn 2/3 and are fucked by that point
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>>122624248
aggro terrorist pls go

you are not gonna be rich
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>>122624624
>6 mana for a 6/2
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>>122623534
op as fuck
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>>122624638
I would also like to say that you have near 0% chance of beating control/reno warrior. ebin flame axe and unstable counters your entire deck and are always in their opening hand
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>>122624350
Play double goldens or don't play goldens at all.
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>>122624624

>class epic unironically worse than the 2/6 runt card
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>>122624624

>less stats than boulderfist ogre
>easier to kill with spells like consecrate

Thank god Blizzard doesn't employ morons like you who manage to be less competent than they already are.
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>>122624785
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>>122624894
Yeah you're right, instead they allow a druid to do 22 damage out of hand with charging trees..
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>coin juggler
>they have an answer

every time

Why do I do it
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who's that pokemon hsg?

two golden rares and a legendary not bad for watching someone win.
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>>122624845
no :^)
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>>122624624
May as well make it a common card while you're at it.
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>>122625037
Ragnaros
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>>122624995
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>>122625037
Golden Cho
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>>122625037
Memehouse
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>>122624995
Die to shredder
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>>122625268
why would you play that card without buffing it
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>>122625158
>>122624995
>>122624785
Stop posting.
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>>122625031

>the answer to overpowered things is to make them absolute shit

Literally the dumbest fucker I've encountered today.
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>Be StrifeCro
>Buy 1400 dollar headphones
>Provide twitch with a 20 dollar mic and 5 dollar webcam
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>>122625341
no
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>>122625036
>play anything on turn one
>enemy has the perfect answer 90% of the time
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>>122625345

But that actually is blizzards design philosophy. did you forget Warsong?
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>>122625345
If every card becomes shit then the game is balanced.
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>the uldaman titan watcher pally card

What were they thinking
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>>122625037
dreamspouse
(sylv)
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>>122622162
would be broken at 1 hp, pretty crappy as it is now
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>>122625925
>guaranteed 5 secrets even if they run less types in their deck
>doesn't thin their deck
>so they could bounce it and replay it

I think you *may* have made it better, even with the overload.
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>you go through half your deck and don't draw a single coldlight oracle
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Post ladderable reno decks in every class.

Can /hsg/ do it?
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>>122625268
>Takes 1 damage from shredder
>Dies to it
????????????????
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>>122626145

>building your deck around 2/30 cards

this is why mill rogue will never be good outside of memeing.
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>>122626148
Add reno to your deck.
Hit done and allow randomize.
Remove duplicates and repeat until satisfied.

Just kidding, but fuck, I wish his effect was at least a fixed amount or something.
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>>122626232
takes 2 damage
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>don't play around ice block OR counterspell in a situation that loses me the game if it's one or the other
>wasn't ice barrier
>wasn't vaporize
>wasn't duplicate
>wasn't spellbinder

So it was the "you kill my minion, I get 3" right?

God I am shit and lucky
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>>122622857
lmao dr. seuss war propaganda is the best
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>Reno heals you fully every time but then deals 4 damage to your face for every duplicate you have in your deck

Is it balanced yet?
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>>122625037
>>122625097
>>122625226
>>122625262
>>122625959

almost, almost.
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>>122626534

Be sensible. Why would he punch you in the face?
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>>122626735
"This isn't an unique artifact, dumbass! We're not gonna be rich!"
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>>122626534

It heals you two less for every duplicate. In your starting deck.
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>>122626314
>2 cost
you're joking right?
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So with Brann out, Perdition's Blade can do 5-6 extra damage over just daggering up for 1 more mana. You can also drop Auto-Barbers as a 2 mana Deadly Poison. Oil Rogue is gonna be a top tier ladder deck again, bank on it.
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>>122626534
>>122626735
>>122626808
>>122626943
damn it i meant if a duplicate instance is discovered

it doesnt hit you for 24 when you have 6 nerubians in the deck, it hits for 4
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>>122626735
>>122626808
Doing all that healing is exhausting.
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>>122626232
4 - 2 = ???
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>drop tirion
>they have owl and museum man
>its turn fucking 7 and they've used 1 owl already

fuck this game
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>>122627264
Thought he was talking about the last one
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>>122625037

reno jackson

enjoy your free legendary rank
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>>122627292
What's your gripe with Harrison if Tirion is silenced? That's 3/4ths of his usefulness gone
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>>122618597
cairne
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>>122627414
he double keked me
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>encounter a legendary rank-able meta deck
>at like rank 15

I don't understand.
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>>122627362
>reno jackson
>from a pack
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????worstgirl?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>122627094

You still have to pay to play the weapon, and unlike ooze or harrison it gives no body.

2 mana is well priced.
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>you will never be as happy as day9
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>>122627606
>cards = skill

based shieldbearer
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>>122627606
Grinding late I guess.
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>>122627704
>Hearthstone = skill
Based wallet player.
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>>122627806
>shieldbearer = lego

your right m8

getting legend is 100% rng, your juggles fucked you over...:^)
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>>122627150

>trying to make overload a thing outside of shaman

s t o p
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>>122627693
is this TF2?
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>>122627704
>someone can be so unskilled that they can't break 15 with reno fatigue warrior

[Doubt]

>>122627778
I guess that could be it.
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>>122628012
Why did you bring fatigue into this? I agree with that, but not just "legend capable deck" that is so vague
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>>122627362
please tell me this is b8
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>>122627150
No
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>>122627693
Why can't day9 hold all these hats?
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>Warrior plays justicar
>says well played

Every single time, why?
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>>122628670
Because they know it's balanced.
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>>122627638
>>122627638
>>122627638
>>122627638
underrated post
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Arena is frustrating as fuck, but that's only because I'm not too great of a deckbuilder yet. I'll get there, though. Any tips? Ideal mana curve"
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>>122628670
Because they played well dropping down Justicar
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>>122629359
>http://heartharena.com/
Literally in the OP
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>>122628885
Mysterious Dr. Tirion when?
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>>122628670
I just say Well Played when I drop a card that is considered bad or shit.

If I drop my Golden Rend I always Well Played because it means I've already won in not building a deck that some other faggot made.
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>>122629524
I forgot I do a little dance in my chair also that denotes the other player being a sheep.

Imagine if a retard learned "the robot" it's similar to that.
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>>122628885
How... how would this even work?
>Double Sacred Trial.
>Double Repentance.
>Double Noble Sacrifice (Two could spawn, but how could both take the hit?)
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>>122629359
heartharena,com will help you a lot
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>wonder why I haven't played hearthstone in a while
>come back, have fun, win basically every game for a dozen games in a row except for hard fought victories
>get completely crushed or fucked by rng the next dozen
>stop playing hearthstone for a while

I wish blizz would at least make it a 50-50 thing and not just shit in my mouth constantly past a certain point.
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>>122629810
Blizzard doesn't understand what good RNG is.

Good RNG is something like

"Draw the lowest cost card in your deck and play it instantly"

Bad RNG is something like

"Draw 3 cards from your deck and if any of them are creatures play them instantly"
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thoughts?
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>>122629520
Better?

>>122629684
The same way brann will work with things that don't make sense triggering twice. Magic.
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>>122630023
power creep
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>>122630023
Literally a worse Mass dispel
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>>122627704
>go 7 games undefeated in ranked yesterday
>lose 6 games straight in a row today
Fuck off, this game is a fucking casino simulator.
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>>122630023
brah

>>122630123
Forced 50% winrate matchmaking.
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>>122629934
>"Draw the lowest cost card in your deck and play it instantly"
I don't think you understand what RNG is.
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>>122630032

this is balanced because you can't hero power the same turn
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>>122629760
>http://heartharena.com/
>>122629453

Anything that isn't meant to be used WHILE deckbuilding? I don't want it done for me. I just want to read up on how to do it better.
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>>122630032

>draw into every secret in your deck by the time you play it

lel
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>>122630409
The Lich King honestly would only work as a transform your hero type of card
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>>122630347
watch streamers draft, high level players like Kripp, Trump, and Forsen will explain their thought process.
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>>122630497
You're right. It should make copies of secrets rather than draw them.
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What should I change?
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>>122630552

>high level players like Kripp

LMFAO

>forsen doing arena

LMFAO
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>>122630242
Yeah I do, and either one of two things then faggot:

Either we're actually talking about real RNG, which is straight up shit and bad.

Or we're talking about forced chance.


EITHER FUCKING WAY MATE, YOU LOSE.
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>>122630409
>dies to shredder
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thoughts?
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>>122630649
class
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>>122630347
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvEIxIeBRKSgrfJAQqYp-3zTAmnUUPGSj
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>>122630687
Never
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>>122630649
Game
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>>122630673
There is literally no "chance" in the function you described. It's anti-random.
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>>122630680
obscenely op with still being situational
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>>122630842
Exactly. Goodnight.
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>>122630347
M8 you are asking about stuff like "ideal mana curve". There's no such thing. You begin to draft value wise and then, after some picks. you begin to draft depending on what your deck seems to be (aggro, midrange, tempo, etc). Heartharena calculates a ton of probabilities to point you to the right picks; for example it calculates the chances of being offered a 2-drop and adds that on the cards score etc.
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>There will never be a 25 Mana Alexstrasza card that replaces your hero and gives you OP abilities if you manage to get her on the board
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>>122630842
Uh?

Are you autistic? Do you understand that if there's 2 cards with the same cost an RNG would have to choose between them?
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what's a fun deck to play
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>>122630552
These are all pretty mediocre.
Best ones are ADWCTA+Merps, Hafu, Ratsmah.
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>>122631080
Try fucking off faggot probably the best deck in the meta senpai
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>>122631031
it's called jaraxxus senpai
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>>122631080
mill rogue
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>>122631031
>You will never have a card that lets you replace your deck with one of the adventure boss decks

>>122631252
Jaraxxus isn't a sexy dragon lady, though.
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>>122631071
You didn't specify that such a scenario would be chosen with RNG. It could have been top decked. But sure, I'm the autist.

And no, that isn't "good" RNG in any sense. All that does is promote more gimmicky decks like Reno's "one of everything" decks. Three cost "play the lowest cost minion"? Congratulations, the game is now flooded with decks with all one through six slots filled with spells and boom as the standard lowest cost minion.
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>>122631352
>No chromie
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>>122631485
>There will never be mechanics to make ongoing spells a thing
>Also the only dragon consort we have is shit

>No that "Put a curse in your opponent's hand" shit doesn't count.
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hey guys

i fixed poison blade
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>>122629934
>draw the lowest card
>play it
>only 8 mana and higher cards in there
Top lel, sure is 'random'
>have a perfect curve
>no duplicates or substitutes
Again you are marvelous at balancing this
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>want to make a warrior deck
>no justicar or grommash
>make axeflinger deck instead

>want to make a freezestone deck
>literally zero doomsayers

I've been playing since beta, how can I not have doomsayer?
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>>122631874
Epics are harder to get than legendaries.
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>>122631713
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BALANCING??????
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>>122630957
Thanks for saying this. It makes a lot of sense and I hadn't thought about it that way, though it should have been obvious.
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What do you guys think of my Hybrid Druid list? Any tech that can improve my control match-up? I'm at rank 10 right now. Control decks are my only real bad matchups. I'm thinking of maybe dropping Leper Gnome for BGH or Han Solo.
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Just getting into the game
Is it worth it to buy one of the adventures or should I just grind for gold
If so which one?
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Why haven't they implemented in client tournaments yet?
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>>122632651

automated tournaments are what they want to put in game according to their blizzcon panels
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ladder still full dumb fucking secret paladins and fucking aggro hunters..
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Alright I just reached 700 gold, should I buy the first wing of the memespansion? Have everything else
Only consideration is whether I buy this wing or wait for the next one, as not sure which would be more useful
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>>122632549
Have you played TCGs before? Coming from MTG back in May I purchased all wings of Naxx and BRM. If I were to join today I would also buy all wings of League. You get so many good cards from all the adventures. From there you can grind out dailies, do arena runs and do tavern brawls to build up gold and dust. Idk it depends on what you want to get out of the game, what you want to do. Time is money. Spending money on packs is uncertain, adventures are guaranteed value. Gamble on packs with gold.
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>Blizzard's first week of cards changed the meta this much
This expansion is actually legit, why the fuck couldn't they make good cards every other time. Even the discover mechanic is an unexpected fun / good thing.
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>>122633157
>tfw im running secret aggro paladin

Hope you're playing CW lad :^)
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>>122633471
die from cancer shitter dumb fucker :)))
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>>122633157
Those decks are easy. What are you playing?
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>Scarab in Hunter

Animal Companion
Kill Command
Quick Shot
Deadly Shot
Unleash the Hounds
Power Shot

Desert Camel
Stable Master
Dreadscale
Metaltooth Leaper


Absolutely Disgusting.
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>>122633614
>can't get laid
>can't win at Hearthstone

Sucks to be you huh?
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>>122633742
>3rd kill command/Quick

J U S T
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>>122633437
I play paper mtg somewhat competitivelyI'd actually get into mtgo if it didn't mean rebuying entire decks
I don't think I could ever justify just buying packs with cash
Is any one better than another regarding staples? I've been playing a tempo-ish warlock build if that helps
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>>122634038
Naxx has really good cards like haunted creeper, sludge belcher, loatheb.

BRM is good if you want to make a dragon priest
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