Filthy Frisk Edition
Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own risk.
You are not above the consequences.
-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/ (Gaben-free Edition)
-The Game's Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm
-/utg/ Booru
>http://under.booru.org/
-Recommendbin
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6
-/utg/ Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc
-/utg/ Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen
-/utg/ cytube
>Channel: Undertale
-/utg/ Flockdraw
>flockmod.com/undertale
Previous Thread:>>122450347
To any artfags willing to make it happen, I'd like to see some comfy-ass images of Undyne and Alphys sleeping in the same bed together.
Lets go get something to eat /utg/, some place with good wi-fi tho.
>>122463323
But why so manyyyy....
Not complaining though, at least we can post more images.
I bought this game and I haven't been killing anyone, did I fuck up? It's my first run
gotta love that family resemblance
>>122463812
yeah you're doing good, also get out of these threads immediately and don't come back until you're done with the game
>>122463812
Best thing is is that you never can fuck up, unless you're a tryhard who wants to do two runs in one. might save you time, but isn't as personal.To be honest playing the game more than twice is much better worth for your money.
And what >>122463886 said. You will get spoiled and that's basically ruining your experience.
Worship
Anyone here happen to have the rest of the Tuesday Papyrus pics? Or at least a source? I forgot to save the others.
>>122464002
Are we literally at the point where there's no more new Asriel for me?
anon, hold me.
So it happend... A dating sim undertale game is coming out and your developing it, what things/requirements would you put in?
>Asriel ending
>go through a 150 step process of crpytic bullshit
>last step, survive in putting asriel's soulback together
>1hp, the perfect run
>you finally do it
>asriel comes back
>cutscene plays where asriel and Frisk are about to kiss
>cutscene stops before the lips touch
>video plays of me slowclapping
"Man I didn't realize how autistic you could be, I mean this isn't even canon, its all just fanfiction I created...did you really think that you could just do that? Well I'm sorry to say...you did this for.nothing...well actually you did, you did it for my amusement!"
>get close to the mic
>get dunked on nerd
>dogsong plays with the credits rolling
And then asreil fags suicided, the end
>>122464086
Dont rush perfection anon, they trickle in slowly but are of good quality.
>>122464247
Are you ok, Anon?
>>122464327
Yes, is there a problem?
BOOP THE SNOOTLES!
>>122464304
>>122464341
There's still hope..!
>>122464247
you need help
>>122464002
TAKE THIS!
I'm literally stuck at rock bottom, it's amiracle if there's new asriel pics somewhere.this might be because i have been posting at like the last three /utg/ threads which all reached bump limit in a matter of hours.
Also, the world needs Asriel pluchie.
>>122464778
then start making some instead of spamming the thread ye ding dong.
I claim this thread in the name of swole.
>>122464778
When will there be a life size plushie of Asriel?I bet somebody could make a fortune off Asriel sex dolls.
>>122464876
so you're asking me to start drawing?i guess i can pull off something if i try hard enough.
>>122465008
Considering how tiny the niche is, and how much it would cost to mass-produce them, probably maybe for someone already established in the industry. Nice idea though.You pervert.
>there are people who don't rhyme dreemurr with dreamer
whats up fellas,
hit me up with your sans needs and give me requests i can voiceact while i do other stuff meanwhileno lewds
>>122465127
But Dreemurr rhymes withmurderer
>>122465205
What if I want lewds,sansolid.
post chara
>>122465278
then thats not my problem
>>122465304
We claim this thread in the glorious name of Chara.
>>122465330lame-o
>>122465205
You can do Sans and Papyrus, right? Assuming you're the same guy that dubbed that "what's updogg" comic.
If so, think you can do this one? I want some comfy pls
reposting alphys fic from other thread
just in case anyone hasnt seen it who cares about such a thinghttp://pastebin.com/dnMu2qqU
who drew this
>>122464472
Nah
https://archiveofourown.org/works/5222099
The only Gaster fic that matters
Best Goat coming through
>>122465393
no results on google, pixiv, iqdb,or e621, so no idea dude
>>122464626
I kinda like this design for him.
The heels might be a little much.
>>122464884
Do not appropriate tem cultoor wit uncute mussels
tigger wArn1ng
>>122465393
Chara anon
>>122465443
>memeing across time and space
well that title already has me hooked in, i'll give it a read
>>122465535
is it just me or is that tem in the bottom middle kinda hot
>>122465443
This is actually hilarious. They got the characters personalities down pretty damn well too. I'm impressed.
>>122465604
Sure, I can see that.Image those lips hovering off it's face into your dick, it starts to suck while it kneads the balls
>>122465304
I did a thing again.
I hope it's better than the last one.
>>122464458
I'm not sure why but this image made me giggle.
>there will never be a content patch to undertale
>you will never save asriel or chara
>no new game+ where chara floats around making comments on everything
post cancer
>>122465735
Better idea, that being said with a confused looking frisk, then flashbacks to chara trying to flirt, hug and basically get hurt.
>>122465820
>>122465535Watcha gonna do about it faggot?
Do you think Toriel bleats like a goat from time to time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRaqs_fbi4I
>>122465942
Run away.
Don't want the /fit/horses around.
>>122465373
oh man, looks interesting, ill do my best!
>>122465910
>That Muffet
Jesus fucking christ
>>122465910
>>122466070
brown muffet is cute
Hey, /utg/, give me all of your temmie gifs.
>>122466175
>>122463323
>*Ring ring
>"Ayy m0m, giiiibe me the pussay pls
>"My aren't you a special one
>*Mentally tortured gook screams of pleasure
>>122466223
I feel like a retard for not getting laid in college
>>122465983
>run away
Yeah thats what i thought.
Frisk / chara lewds, two asriels are in there
http://imgur.com/a/tZeWo
gonna slow down with these again
>>122463323
>>122466235
>eyy b0ss can I habe de mercy pls
>>122466269
>Those tems
BLUE BOARD!
>>122465962
I wonder if Toriel knows about Snail mating
>>122466295
>female frisk
No thanks
>>122466370
>shit taste
No thanks.
i want to pet chara
>>122466403
Yeah thats what he said.
>>122466454
Yeah, we do know the poster that keeps bitching about it has shit taste
>>122466306
>"Seems talking won't do any more good."
>"Boss, I habe cancer pls."
>"He nods sadly."
>>122465393
Some anon that draws cute shit, mostly chara in costumes so far. They hang around regularly, you should be able to find them easily.
>>122465962
Petting her soft fur while stroking her chin has to be heavenly. She'd probably act like a real goat looking for affection the moment you do that.
>>122466414
I want to kiss Chara
>>122466308
Theres nothing in there not allowed on a blue board you baby.
>>122466593
i want to kiss chara in between their legs
>>122466658
>TFW so many fags that want to be feminized around me
I want to lay down my soul for Lord Asgore
Anyone have that comic w undyne holding spaghetti between their legs
Could a human fit Asgore's entire cock in their mouth? This is important
>>122466986
If they have enough determination.
>>122466986
maybe if they had a lot of practice? i bet it's pretty fuckin big
>tfw you see people using a terrible name and knowing all the dramatic moments were ruined
Have a muffet /utg/.
>shit posted on /utg/ most of the night because couldn't sleep
>go to work early without sleep
>shit post on /utg/ more
just fuck up my life, senpai
>>122466749
I want to get to the barrier and use determination todo some naruto-tier ninja shit to fight him, talking all that autistic BS with handsigns and all, while he blocks my attacks with his spear. Then, when I finish a long barrage of attacks, smirk as I pull a string that trips a trap I've sneakily laid at his feet, and watch him fall backwards onto the ground where I'll pin him and make him let me cross the barrier, with his life as my bargaining chip.Only really, really cool kids have autism like this.
>>122467047
What do you mean?
>>122467189
>naruto
Please get off anything with standards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbZ8GF18r4
Reminder that Toriel and Asgore arenever ever ever getting back together
>>122467189
Pshhhhh...nothin personnel...kid...
>>122467259
I know. I also feel bad for the people who think they would. They probably have parental issues of some kind.
>>122467259
They did in my headcanon. Get rekt.
>>122467259
Reminder that goatmom is a stuck up fucking fag who needs to let Asgore back into her life.
He's the king, he does things for reasons, and more than likely never killed a kid personally anyway.
>>122467306
>>122467259
Maybe if Toriel wasn't a WHINY BITCH they could still be together. He hadn't even done anything bad yet when she left.
>>122467420
asgore internet defense force pls go
I need this dumb goat nerd in my life otherwise I might just kill myself
Best fighter in the game?
Best fighter in the game.
>>122467359
What is this...meme?template??thing called? Those last three panels always crack me up.
Did you learn anything after playing Undertale, /utg/? Either about yourself or in general.
>>122467163
I don't know where I'm going to go to shitpost after this general dies.
would you fuck a fish?
>>122467561
i learned that i like boys a lot more than i thought
>>122467558
First time I saw it was for a Dark Souls 1 comic, where you destroy an important soul in front of a friendly NPC whose mourning at a grave.
>>122467561
I learned that I need to let the goat son in my ass.
I mean life.
>>122467558
Card crusher. Based off a japanese video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKjctTWIsw
>>122467623
Probably
>>122467561
I learned that I'm a fucking pussy ass crybaby that needs a loving demon/kid goat in my life
>>122467152
fuck
>>122467561
I've been picking up the wonderfully useless skill of reading Wing Dings, learned to use Gimp more for some basic image editing stuff and was reminded to use comedy to manage my crippling depression.
>>122467623[popping noise]
>>122467519
God I hate everything about this fucking picture. Why is this little faggot drawn so badly. He's like a skinny ass upside down triangle. What's up with his fucked up arthritis hands. I fucking hate this. Shit man.
>>122467623
>energy naginata
Beauty in the details.
>>122467563
Same. Some of the ones I used to visit are just too shitty.
>finished Pacifist
>went back to start
>mfw
>>122467790
How would you prefer Asriel drawn?like this?
>>122467731
Ayyy are you me?
>>122467790
Holy shit nigga calm down, take a breath it's all gonna be okay.
>>122466749
https://m.soundcloud.com/le-ruse-bird/asgore-give-me-a-sign
>>122467823
Adachi is the killer
>>122467858
I don't know. Do you like vodka?
>>122468036
I...yes I do actually. I drink it many times every week.
>>122467864
you have no fucking idea how much that picture infuriates me man
>>122467919
bullshit, everyone knows it's namatame
>>122467823
and by that I meant back to the ruins
>Asriel is there with the flowers
>>122468101
i was about to way "it's not that bad" but then i realized the only reason i think that is cause it's cute and my mind fills in the details that dont look right
it's just a mediocre pic in general, it just looks good because the focal area looks good and it's colored
is... is that the real secret to art? bullshittery?
>>122468087
That's... I was expecting no as an answer.
Hello other me. How awkward.
>>122468101
Why though, it's not that bad. And even if it isn't the best picture, you are still getting mad over a drawing of a goat.Which is pretty autistic but I can't really use that as an insult.
>>122468205
Pretty much.
>>122468112
that is a very cute sans
>>122467623
But the fish would probably not fuck me since you know, I got a penis and isn't a fat and lonely lizard.
What's your most despised depiction of Sans?
Personally, any one where he cries.
>>122468364
would you fuck the fish's desperate lizardnerd girlfriend?
assuming the fish wouldn't murder you for it
>>122465386 an example
>>122468112
I like how they drew toriel.
People should draw her like that more.
>>122468448
Crying/ looks flustered. Seems too out of character.
Also the ones where they draw him with eyebrows and it gives off a child molester look.
>>122468237
What an interesting development. This general fills me with surprises every day.
>>122468451
Well yeah and at least the desperate lizard girlfriend is up with it since she wants to fuck basically everything from the bara king to the motherfucking unknown.
>>122468448
that one artist that draws him with the huge ugly ass eyebrows and giant gap in his teeth
other than that I pretty much like all other Sanses
>>122468448
this applies for all characters but humanized
also all those theories that "sans can time travel" or "sans knows everything"
all sans knows is the look on your face and some slightly more than basic psychology, he has really good intuition and his theories come from his research in the past, he still basically knows nothing about the dead timelines
>>122467561
NOPE!
I AM AS BLISSFULLY IGNORANT AS EVER!
>>122468632
Congratulations, my friend.
>>122468675
For what?
>>122467561
Never waste more than 8$ on a "story based game" because UT does it better.
>TFW nobody can ever make an RPG with bullet segments again without being accused of ripping off this game
It's a sad, sad kind of feel.
>>122464086
>>122468448
just the ones with noticable eyebrows
>>122468547You ever think she'd drop fish princess if she ever found out to make the whole unknown thing true?You think you would be able to handle the undyne wrath anon?
what does undyne mean when she says you remember her of someone she used to train with?
>>122468836
I can tell that's one of those images with something behind it, try harder.
>>122468836
aww that's pretty cute, expected edgy, of course, but got cute
>>122468721
Fornothing. Foreverything.
>>122468887
both asgore and papy match the topic, so im sure it's one of them, probly
>>122468887
Goat dad. She even tells you, did you not finish the game?
>>122468128
I know that feel man, im mad because i will never get to go down on chara as well.
>>122468448
Sharp teeth and eyebrows.
Too skinny/has hardly any shoulders
Also overly realistic interpretations lose all the charm.
>>122468887
Asgore you kek. Did you read the rest of what she said?
>>122469015
Why must you disappoint me this way Anon? Why must you sexualize the partner?
>>122469000
I have, I'm just doing another pacifist-run but she just told me about training with Asgore and already said I remember her of him so why would she ommit his name for a second time?
>>122468836
What are these images called? I want to make one.
>>122467232
Game Grumps bamed their character Spoopy. When they fought Asriel and he started giving up and saying their name a lot, Erin just goes "We shouldnt have called ourselves Spoopy." It REALLY killed the drama because he had to keep saying Spoopy.
>>122468896
try again
>>122469229
>Watching grumps post-Jon
I shiggydiggy
>>122469229
Well it is a Lets Play. It's not like loud people who cater to kids and low brow humour are going to approach a game seriously.
I feel really bad for people who watch those things instead of playing the game themselves.
>Chara is the narrator!
>Chara is a girl!
>I want to fuck Chara!
>Chara is cute, isn't she?!
>Isn't Chara really nice???
I expected tumblr to be this dumb, not you /utg/.
>>122469385
that was almost my friend
at least markiplier never finished yet so she wouldnt get to watch all of it
>>122469146
Its been a while since I've seen that dialog. I just remember her talking about Asgore specifically but also mentioning Papyrus' tendency to make friends with people so she wanted to teach him cooking.
Training wise I think she was just talking about Asgore. Everyone talks about him being a lovable wimp even though he tries to murder your ass.
>>122469093
where did the whole "asgore is a c uck" meme come from?
>>122468827
The intro of my RPG starts out like it's going to be a bullet hell shooter!Except you soon realize the bullets don't effect you and then it becomes a turn-based brawler of sorts
>>122469454
Right? Anyone who's ever seen Chara talk knows that they're completely alien and sociopathic and wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone for a moment, not even their best friend. I don't get this whole "THEY'RE NICE AT HEART!!" thing. Fucking Flowey is nicer than they are.
>>122469523
How is it like to make an RPG game? How long does it take to start making one? How much programming knowledge do you have to know to make it work? Do you have to make the animations and sprites in separate programs?
>>122469385
This.
And also yeah, that seems to be a growing problem. Youtubers help get word of the game out there, but I've seen people going "I'm not interested in ----, but I'll watch it if ---'s playing it." It's something I just can't understand. Sure I like to see people's reactions to big moments, but without experiencing it on my own first?
I feel like those people lack faith in themselves.
>>122468448
Any time a artist draws him sweating/bleeding/crying/ect goes straight into the trash.
I'm trying for Genocide road right now and I probably skipped some shit since despite killing his Bro, he left me to pass and I got myself the Neutral ending anyway.
>>122469454
Chara a cute!
>>122469464
I found out about the game via 2 smaller youtubers, one that was 5 minutes into a genocide run. Both wouldn't shut up about telling their viewers to fuck off and play the game themselves if they hadn't yet. I'm really glad they did that now.
>>122468827Is the sad face upside down?
>>122469514
If you accept Soriel as fact, then it's kinda keky, except not because even if it was canon, Toriel would have left Asgore and then, years later, found Sans.
>>122469634
Not him, but a decent while, especially if you can't draw.;_;
>>122469352
>>122469385
I only watched them reach New Home and onwards. A lot of good story that drops that makes me want to see people's reactions. They were genuinely paying attention and involved at that point. Which makes it all the worse because even though theyre both jackasses, they still were sucked into the game like everyone else. And then they killed the drama by being called Spoopy.
>tfw have to r63 edit Frisk, Chara, and/or Reader in fics in order to appeal to your headcanons/kinks
C'est la vie.
>>122469637
He sweats in canon, man. Papyrus also proves that they can blush and cry, too.
They're skeleton monsters, not monster skeletons.
>In the Souless Genocide route Chara calls you a maniac and tells you to go and do a Pacifist run.
So I am that bad of person..
>>122469636
There's some games I'll only watch, but its because I either don't have the system to play the game or the gameplay looks god awful but the story looks engaging enough to watch.
To me Undertale has interesting story, fairly fun gameplay, and good music so some autist talking over everything just takes away from the experience. Maybe a no commentary video would be okay but they might not explore right or miss things like petting Lesser Dog into another dimension.
>>122469454
>>122469573
There has to be some reason for Chara to be a demonic psychopath. It is said that they hate humanity, right? I think Chara was just a kid who's been through bad times and got influenced by the wrong people or straight up traumatized by something.
>>122465373
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hlIt7mA3zx
this one was fun
unfortunately it took all of the time i had, you are still free to leave requests but dont expect them todaylisten to the very end for a bonus
>>122467561
I decided to become a drawfag because I wanted to draw fanart of this game
>>122469787
>r63 edit Frisk, Chara
Nigga R63 doesn't apply to them. They're whatever you want them to be.
>>122469848
Of course there are exceptions. But a game like Undertale NEEDS you to perform every action yourself. I get frustrated just watching lpers wander where I wouldn't.
>>122469827
Chara is conning you into a soulless pacifist run so they can invade and destroy the human world
they are appealing to your tendencies
are you going to do it?
>>122469827
She does that because she wants you to break the barrier via pacifist ending so you can escape out into the world. Youre trapped in the Underground unless you break the barrier. Chara wants to destroy humanity.
>>122469972
Or missing really obvious shit. Like, how utterly oblivious and uninvolved do you have to be to miss some of this stuff?
Hold your little goats hand /utg/.
He seems to have a thing for hand holding.
I killed the flower shitter and he told me to visit Undyne. However, I can't figure out how to go back there. I can backtrack to the cooking show and that's it. Did I fuck up?
>>122469637
>Any time a artist draws him sweating/bleeding
dude wat
Sans sweating is canon, and Sans "bleeding" is ketchup.Also you probably shouldn't post here until you've seen Genocide all the way through and the Pacifist ending after completing Geno.
>>122469863
>influenced by the wrong people
That's exactly what happens in genocide.
You can go back to neutral route if you want to at almost any point, but you decide not to and then Chara finally snaps.
>>122469637
but sans is a sweaty motherfucker though
>>122469972
It does seem to be one of those games where someone not doing something right or missing shit is really frustrating.
While other games like Dark Souls, it can be fun to watch someone stumble around and get their teeth kicked in.
>>122470079
he also has a thing for brothers, so just being there for him really helps, i think
>you will never feel your Sans crawling on your back
>>122470079
And getting fucked in the butt as well.
Which is kind of a shame since I want to get fucked in the butt too
>>122469962
Yes, but often in fics people choose a specific gender/sex instead of the neutral route, especially in lewd fics.
>>122470215
i bet asriel is a switch
if you ask nicely, or literally any other method of asking, i bet he'd do you
>>122470114
Anon there are fast travel options. You know that very first safe point that you get to when you get to Hotland? The one right outside Alphys' place? Just go south from that save point.
>>122470273
That would be niceeven though it will never happen
>>122470114
Take the boat thing. Should be south of the nice cream man and a save point.
i want to waifu sweaty sans
>>122470273
>i bet asriel is a switch
nah i think hes8 years old and not remotely into that shit you projecting waste of flesh
would you fuck a depressed weeaboo lizard?
>>122469863
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-Re_Fl_L4
The fact Toby denied this as his inspiration for Frisk or Chara kills me inside.
I wonder how hard it would be to make a pocket Gaster.
>>122470382
Let us dream faggot, it's the only thing we have.
>>122470501
Clay and a sharpie. You can do this, anon.
>>122470120
I just wanna finish the game, Anon.
I completely skipped a Cerf when Sans is standing near a cave. I got 14 love points and he's not feeling up like beating my ass
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSrsuOffdCU
Fighting both Asgore and Toriel would be pretty sad desu senpai
>>122470462
Considering she was molested that would be fucked up if he did.
>>122470190
it hurts
>>122470501
this is the goddamn cutest picture of gaster, holy shit
>>122470438
if she showered
>>122470290
>>122470327
nvm i'm dumb as fuck, i got confused about the map
>>122470462
Chara was as lost and confused as Asriel was after they lost their soul. If what they wanted was really to kill all the monsters and humans, they could've easily done it themselves when they were alive. But they didn't.
After completing all this game has to offer I'm having a hard time enjoying the other games I usually play. For some reason I can't get my mind off of it.
Has anyone else had this happen?
>>122470501
You could needle felt something like that pretty easily since needle felting only requires basic sculping skills.
Also his clothes are easy because they're long.
>>122470438
only if she'll let me stick it in her ass
>>122470569
I kind of want to try and make a plushie version.
>>122470598
Have Gaster holding pocket Gaster.
For anon that requested it last night.
I couldn't post it because of connection errors.Hope you are still around, buddy.Yes, I know that I'm shit at drawing comics.
Guys help, I've trained myself to read wingdings.
What do I do with this talent.
Don't forget about /utg/ discord, come and make some friends! No download needed.
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>>122470587
>the point
>you
>>122470660
cool fanfic
>>122470729
why is gaster a cute
>>122470501
All this pocket Gaster talk reminds me of that one grey NPC that says they have a piece of him with them.
>>122470812
You could open up a wingdings store.
>>122470812
You start translating whatever material you can get into your hands.
>>122470729
Oh. I wish I could make a tiny pair of skelebros , myself. But I draw, not sew.
If you're just going for the lil blob look, then it shouldn't be too hard.
>>122470518
Escapism is unhealthy, and pedophilia is illegal
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>>122470697
>needle felting
Looks interesting.. I'll look into that, thanks.
>>122470850
>>122470825
What if Gaster is spread out in pieces across the universe, and those small pieces are cute pocket versions of himself that cause shenanigans by crawling into electronics and fucking them up?
>>122470952
Where do you think you are
>>122469229
>Erin
but Arin wasn't in the Undertale let's play, that was Barry and Ross.
>>122470812
Get a job translating for the United Nations.
>>122470952
well first off its drawn but more importantly, i dont understand the motive for this being "all they have"
if its because of the porn, no theres plenty of fury porn just like that
if its because of the character being special, then the porn part makes no sense and utterly betrays his character on a level far beyond most OOC stuff
shit just doesnt add up
>>122470812
I'm trying to as well, since there's so much art of Gaster that's not translated, but it's hard.I know I can do it though, I used to be able to fluently read Gnomish in those Artemis Fowl books.
>>122470947>RING RING
>NEAT
10/10
>>122469229
The GameGrumps playthrough is easily the worst of them all, just stick to Joel's. It's by far the best one.
>>122470986
sounds adorable hombre
What if Alphys isn't actually fat, and just has poor posture?
>>122471127
muh child that cant be saved
>>122471029
A place that needs to be purged
>>122471157
it's obviously both
