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Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn back time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.
>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com
>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg
>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg
>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls & Soundtrack/Music:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive
>/lisg/ Community written fanfic:
http://orph.link/story
>/lisg/ Content Producers:
http://pastebin.com/fdmD7Ba4
>Leaks:
http://pastebin.com/ByyNvUKL
http://pastebin.com/xFwyhDca
>Petition for an extended ending:
http://orph.link/petition
Strawpolls:
>Now that it's been a month (already?), are you still pissed off about the ending?
http://strawpoll.me/5908427
>Did you save Kate?
http://strawpoll.me/5934318
>Which should be the setting of Season 2?
http://strawpoll.me/5944816
>Age, gender and orientation /lisg/?
http://strawpoll.me/5959308
>Best Episode
http://strawpoll.me/5970424
>Best anon
http://strawpoll.me/5970694
>When did it first cross your mind that Max's powers could be causing the storm?
http://strawpoll.me/5985495
>Did you preorder the limited edition package?
http://strawpoll.me/5988097
PRICEFIELD
>>122444685
It's 1:00 AM. I'm a little sleepy.
I am putting together a flowchart (a-la-/mu/) of music similar to LiS
Currently working on a few different thoughts for the flowchart. If you guys have any ideas, please share. Current plan is 3 categories; Victoriaish, slowcore, and indie pop.
Pastebin of collected (unsorted) songs so far:
http://pastebin.com/MJrjdDpe
If you want to contribute, please contact me on steam, or reply to this post.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048865860
not-so Current Pastebin of game's music/progress:
http://pastebin.com/LaUcnMej
Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.
I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.
There may or may not be several songs I just found. I'm going to investigate them, see if I missed any. I'll probably post about them next thread.
Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4AF55CE2E1F48771E92E4CCE8E92156EC6A96152&dn=various+artists+life+is+strange+ost+2015&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
https://kat.cr/various-artists-life-is-strange-ost-2015-t11495485.html
Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.
https://mega.nz/#F!LsBkkBwT!p-2sVb--sT3Tb9K_QDhznA
Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
https://play.spotify.com/user/pieisablessing2me/playlist/0hlcayMf9otvePDw2MZ6qk
sadposting
I want Victoria to be my abusive husband and shit on my face.
Reminder not to waste your life while you still have one left to live. Your passion is out there waiting for you to pursue it, along with that special someone with whom you can share that passion--and your heart--without reservations.
I'm in the mood for cringe worthy fanfic and I don't know why.
Post 'em
>>122445063
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6796464/rowanred81
Literally anything this guy does.
>>122445052
I wish ;A; She should've kissed her in AU
>>122445169
I was just about to post a link to the exact same author.
>>122445013
Thank you anon, I've been meaning to sign up for some extra classes at the community college. I'm sure I will be busy what with work and school, but I think I am going to be alright... Promise me that you will find that special place and that special someone as well.
I liked it better when we had a new thread every 6 hrs, anything slower just makes me feel lonely for some reason
Goodnight guys, I'm going to bed.
>tfw no cuddlebuddy
>>122445316
It's nicer this way.
>>122445316
It's comfier this way friend
>>122445331
Have a good night!
There's is girl at work, we loved the same things. Biking for one, its crazy but I think I'm going to ask her to go on a bike tour around Frisco.
>>122445279
>Promise me that you will find that special place and that special someone as well.
I'm sorry anon, but if I did I would be lying both to myself and to you, and I don't want to do that. But I know the folks in this thread are not as far gone as I am. You all still have a chance, and it would pain me dearly if you didn't grasp the ornery bull called Life by the horns and ride that sucker straight into the paradise you wonderful people all deserve.
>femanon
>lis reminds me how much I wasted my youth being a prude introvert
>iwn be a qt girl like max
>iwn have a wholesome and pure rs like pricefield
;_;
>>122445665
>as far gone as I am
May I ask why you feel that way? It's never too late.
>>122445665
It's never too late to kick life in the ass, you are never too far gone. If you are to take away anything from all of this its this one thing, know that there is someone out there cheering for you. Go out there and kick some ass anon.
>>122445857
>>femanon
>>lis reminds me how much I wasted my youth being a prude introvert
same
I'll be graduating college next semester and I've never even kissed anyone
I feel pathetic
>>122445857
It's never too late.
Everyone is waiting for someone to reach out. You can be that person.
>>122445861
I've lost too much and gained so very little, and have been molded into the type of person that could not see the path to success and happiness even if it were right in front of him, or recognize it for what it was even if he did.
>>122445919
Thank you. The sentiment is nice, though I am ashamed to admit that I will likely not do anything with it. You are all rays of sunshine in an otherwise cloudy existence.
>>122446094
not to blog post but I kissed my first dude at 19, he wanted to date me but I was too much of a pussy and chickened out. Now I'm paying the price and obsessing over a cheap French vidya.
>>122445857
i would be a qt girl like max if it weren't for my mental illnesses :s
>>122445925
well she kinda changes through the game, time manipulation power really give her more confidence
>>122446308
>tfw I looked through everyone stuff then rewind as not to make people think Max is weird or err strange
>>122446375
Why do you type like a retard?
This is literally /depression/ general
>>122446245
I'm going to assume that since you're on 4chin you're probably still young. Just know that whatever problems you're going through, they are only temporary. They will eventually end, and you have the power to change your life, no matter how impossible that might seem. In addition, it is a mistake to assume you are alone in this. I hope you get the help you need. Good luck.
KATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATE
>>122444942
Ultimate feels edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoFpMty3ylc
>>122446460
This game healed my depression.
Will anyone here go ape with me?
-Peace. Warren G.
>>122446505
if someone actually said this to me in real life I'm not even sure how I'd react
I might honestly faint
>>122446559
Young in some respects, but too old in others. A lot of time wasted, formative years pissed away. But maybe there is time yet, as you say. I don't like my chances, anon, but thank you for the kind words. I'm probably not in the right frame of mind right now to be speaking or thinking optimistically, but thanks.
>>122446821
I'm envious. While I loved many aspects of Life is Strange, it exacerbated the state I was already in. The endings didn't help either, but the damage had already been done by that point.
When does the official soundtrack release?
Christ, it's like I'm in a fucking blog.
>>122446950
With the Limited Edition.
Where they made 5 new endings and one is about Lisa saving the world. :)
I just checked the strawpoll, why was episode 1 voted best?
Reminder that you're all wonderful people and I love you all dearly
>>122446838
Get out Warren
>>122446943
> it exacerbated the state I was already in.
I was feeling worthless, and this game showed me how easy it can be to make a positive impact in other people's lives. Me, and everyone else is always waiting for some connection to just fall into their lives. Even if I had nothing else going for me, I could be that difference maker, even if it's for one other person, and that would make my life worthwhile.
It also showed me how short and fleeting life can be and how silly it is to be ruled by fear all the time. Tying back into the previous point, people aren't as scary as they can seem in your head.
>>122447051
If only...
>>122447275
>Get out Warren
Why does no one want to ape with me? Whatever.
-Peace. Warren G
>>122446760
added to my 'bestest' playlist, thank you
>>122447095
Possibly nostalgia, I replayed the game after finishing it and episode 1 has an amazing atmosphere and feeling to it compared to the others. Maybe because it felt like an innocent teenage drama with a mystery to uncover while later episodes deal with stronger themes of death, kidnapping and sacrifice.
>>122447461
I'll go ape with you Warren ;)
>>122447594
>bestest
You cereal right now?
>>122447604
I don't think Ep1 was the best overall, but being in Chloe's house for the first time and turning on Santa Monica Dream was the most powerful moment of the entire game for me.
>>122447654
If they removed crosses off her neck she would be Tumblr: the Character
>>122447654
>>122448149
>>122448175
I ship it.
>>122448504
>Warren:Nate how much do you love me?
>Nathan:a lot.
>Warren:but how much?
>Nathan:you can mess up my hair.
>Warren: O: that much?!
This is a real text between me and my sexy boy Nathan.
-Peace. Warren G.
>>122446760
Woah, great fucking cover, didn't even recognise it. Literally the only use of that fucking song that hasn't made me roll my eyes and bow out. Lovely vid.
>>122446821
This game pretended to heal my depression and secretly nurtured my dependance on it for emotional support until I was too weak to stand on my own, then it farted in my face and ran away.
Thanks, Dontnod.
>>122447697
hella cereal
>>122448149
>>122448504
lmao
>>122449190
Never ever stop being this awesome, anon
>>122449426
why just those two posts deleted
>lis gets sequel
>it sucks dick
>everyone retcons their love for the series
>pricefield becomes queerbaiting in retrospect
>DONTNOD files for bankruptcy
>Michel ends up working for ubisoft to make another shitty assassin's creed
Do you guys think next thread we could have a pastebin with fanfic recommendations in the OP?
>>122449707
>Michel ends up working for ubisoft to
make another shitty assassin's creed
It is wonder he isn't already writing the imagination scenes for them, what piles of dogshits couple last of them were.
>>122447594
That would be cool picture but the black background just makes it disgusting.
>>122447170
Luv u 2, xox
I haven't been here since Friday. So what did i miss? is there any news from our Imagination:) Lord?
>>122449353
i still feel sad
why are all the kids in this game obsessed with going to Portland
>>122451702
why?
>>122451815
on this photo she is so lonely.
I wanna hug her
Kate!
>>122452081
Is a whore!
>>122451712
Because it's the closet big city
>>122452196
Have you seen how Victoria talks to Jefferson?
>>122452603
Sure.
https://youtu.be/TPgoE6KzfX8?t=59s
>>122452517
She is not serious. Victoria would never really have fun with Jefferson.
It's a Kate thread.
>>122452081
KATE IS GREAT
you poehavshie
>>122454684
>Hey Kate, is that your calculator?
>>122453991
AU where Kate comes back to Blackwell and Victoria gets a bunny of her own as an excuse to hang out with Kate more WHEN?!
Kate is ok.
Why do Ruskies like Kate so much?
>>122455049
Я пpocтo хoтeл oщyтить тeплoтy cнoвa. Cпacибo тeбe.
>>122455070
Everyone likes Kate.
>>122455070
They're worthless trash just like their waifu.
>>122455105
He зa чтo, бpaтишкa. Oбpaщaйcя :3
Is there a pic of Kate with flowers on her head like this?
>>122455147
This makes Kate sad.
>>122455147
Eat shit, cunt. Ruskies are fine people and they know that Kate is the true queen of /lisg/.
this is an english imageboard
>>122455537
OVER HERE KATE
Good morning!!!! :)
>>122455607
Not anymore, бpaтишкa.
Reposting this poll, noticed it fell off the archives
http://strawpoll.me/5987949
>kate is _____
>>122455704
love
>>122455704
cute
>>122455704
great
>>122455704dead
>>122455802
>>122455793
>>122455784
>>122455748
>>122455704
>>122448175
>kekflab
>>122455704
viral slut
>>122455702
There are people in my life who are eerily similar to Max, Chloe, Kate, Warren, and Nathan.
>>122455853
no u
>>122455272
There's this.
I said ''Good morning'' :)
>>122455702
>no Pompidou
Shit poll.
>>122456016
make a new thread
>>122456030
>128x128
Kate is so great even ants love her!
>>122456162
Tiny Kate. ^_^
>>122456285
Pompidou
>>122455704
Perfect.
>>122456285Brooke
>>122456052
Nah.Whenever i make a new thread,you fucking it
>>122456346
I always love your new threads though. I post in them whenever you make them, and I try to get others to migrate too.
>>122456285
>Warren - king c.uck
>Jefferson - edgelord
>Nathan - boypussy aficionado
>Alyssa - ayy lmao
>>122456378
Oh, really? It's nice to know someone supports and loves me :)
If LiS was made by Squaresoft, Kate would destroy the tornado with her Angel Wings limit break.
>>122456683
>I HOPE YOU DIE
shuush jefferson
>>122456794
Go there and stay there retard.
>>122456823
no u
>>122456683
Wowser, how rude.
>>122456794
Then gtfo and enjoy your circlejerk echo chamber.
>>122456794
>shitty theories
>shitty discussions
>shitty predictions
>shitty and also cliché theories
wtf are u waiting for then? fucking stay there
>>122456861
did Elaine from Seinfeld do the mocap for this
>>122456984
Molli does the cutest LIS fan art. :3
>>122457031
Elaine's dancing had all those over-confident kicks in it. Nothing like this awkward little dance.
>>122457278
>autism dance
also cute btw. but she's really an autistic
>>122457190
>Molli does the cutest LIS fan art. :3
>tfw poor but want this duvetWould be better with Kate though
>>122457380
People with mild autism are always cute
>>122457692
>mild autism
>mild
are we really talking about the same girl?
>>122457801
Have you ever seen hc autists? It seems like you haven't.
>>122457847
>hc autists
anon pls
Max is not autistic.
She is normal person in another reality(I mean she has many friends, goes to parties, etc)
>>122458475
Isn't it more-than-strongly hinted at in her school files? She has a learning disability, and is in a program that is generally populated by folks with autism, right?
I think we can ignore most of the "awkward video game behaviour" as being "video game behaviour" though.
>>122458475
>Max
>drinking smoking slut
Absolutely disgusting.
>>122458475
>tfw we'll never party with the vortex club in the AU where Nathan is nice and Vic is our bitch
>>122458868
>Vic is our bitch
can someone send Vic's messages from AU?
Don't die /LESG/ pleaseeeee
>>122459089
Let it go.
>>122459089
Never.
>>122459204
Don't watch Frozen,you fucking kid!
We're approaching Maximum Comfy at a very fast rate.
>>122458475
>It's the journey
FUCK YOU MICHEL
>>122459563
>Multiple endings depending on the choices you make
>Depending on the choices you make
>DEPENDING ON IMAGINATION:)
>Also your journey's important not endings
>P.S: In one of endings your choices will be erased completely (your fucking journey too)
Also, fuck you Michel.
>>122459089
It might not be one of the most popular board here but its doing fine.
Btw im on chapter 4 right now and witout spoiling anything could someone tell me if it ends on a cliffhanger ?
Are we getting season 2 or something?
>>122460030
>Btw im on chapter 4 right now and witout spoiling anything could someone tell me if it ends on a cliffhanger ?
All i can say is everything was fine until Episode 5. You'll see..
>Are we getting season 2 or something?
They said there will be season 2 but with different characters.
>>122460030
>without spoiling
You're lucky I got here first. Get out, now.
And don't play chapter 5 after the gallery, use your imagination to make your own ending.
>>122460106
>>122460119
Your not the first one telling me episode 5 sucks, im kinda afraid to play it because i love the game and dont want to ruin it all
>>122459994
And in the other one, any character you cared about is in mortal danger and we don't even have the balls to show you the consequences of your actions because lol we know we'd get absolutely slated.
Pathetic desu. Ep 5 really acts as a perfect reflection on all my problems with modern interactive/choice-based adventure games.
>>122460030
>P.S: In one of endings your choices will be erased completely (your fucking journey too)
anon i'm warning you.DON'T FUCKING PLAY EPISODE 5!! Story went to shit, also endings are shit,logic fucked and shit.just use ur fucking imagination
>>122460201
>And in the other one, any character you cared about is in mortal danger and we don't even have the balls to show you the consequences of your actions because lol we know we'd get absolutely slated.
Michel said ''We left fate of other characters voluntarily left blurry'' also said ''It's a open ending, what will happen next? It's up to your imagination:)''
>>122445857
I feel you. Introverted as heck femanon here; I've never been anything but introverted so I don't know how to be anything else. I try to be more open in little ways and have improved over the years, but it's never anything too far outside my comfort zone and nothing too far because of my anxiety issues.
I hope we find a relationship like pricefield one day - all of us. It must be nice to feel that loved.
>>122460179
Episode 5 could've been a lot better if they had a bigger budget, but honestly its fine.
Gamers always complain about shit and make a big deal over nothing, they are famous for it.
>>122460413
Fucking christ, no wonder that one angry guy gets so triggered in these threads. It's such an appalling way to tell a story. In fact it's not even really storytelling.
Really tickles my repressed autism when a creator expects me to be creative in their stead. The worst part is, I know he could have done it; he clearly had these great ideas and a good team to make them come to life. He just fucked up in the fifth.
>>122460030
IT SUUUUCKS
>>122460619
>Minimal art of Stella
Shit's criminal, man.
Kate!
>>122460201
bae ending is short and also story fucked because muh budget.as you can see they said it.besides they're saying this ''use your imagination'' thing for ''both'' endings.
also he said to Mari about the bae ending ''the fate of other characters is left voluntarily blurry'' so we don't know they're alive or not.just use your imagination.
honestly i've never seen someone (especially Telltale) say something like about their game and endings ''Use your imagination.'' wtf?
>>122461025
is a bitch
>>122461058
What the fuck did you just fucking say about Kate? :)
>>122461140
SHE IS A BITCH there is no reason for her to be in the story all she does is whine about OH I BEEN ABUSED FEEL BAD
>>122461235
Do it your a pussy man
>>122461290
Don't push yourcunt:)Warren.
>>122461031
It's... pretty pathetic.
I would consider suicide before I said something that openly acknowledged that I basically couldn't end my own work. In fact, I won't let it happen in the first place. Thanks LiS for making me work even harder to make my own stuff not shit.
>>122460986
It's a great tragedy.
>>122461031
> because muh budget
I hear it many times but dontnod have nearly 6 million euros for the development isn't?
>>122461341
I dont even have a cunt shut the fuck up or else.........and there is notHing wrong with Warren he saved Max chloe and Kate are retarded and fuck her over
>>122461383
but as you can see (>>122461031) they said it:
>...but the production reality and budget also kicked in...
>>122461290
im jsut here to post my daily nathan.
can i convince you to come to steam chat yet?
>>122461432
>Nathan
eat shit dick
>>122461418
Don't worry you'll have thatwhen i cut yours :)
>>122461428
but they have SIX MILLION EUROS what the fuck? What are the fucking problems with the budget in general, could occur? they did not have to hire whores so often i guass
>>122461498
why do you hate him?
>>122461631
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe
After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:) muh budget
>>122461634
Nathan = retarded and crazy
I like when this general is a thread where we drink tea with and talk about Kate.
>>122461715
You dont feel you relate to him at all?
In what aspects would you say you relate to warrren?
also posting some predictions from a few months ago
>>122461803
I'm drinking tea right now.
>Goodbye to my Santa Monica Dream...
KATE!
>>122462423
That's sin.
>>122461876
Warren is real nate is dumb pooped pants fuckboy
>>122462027
STOP!!!!!!!!!
>>122462243
>I could go there
>but I don't.
>>122462423
That picture is missing Victoria hiding in the back with a sad face
>>122462527
Not sin.
>>122462841
>>122462881
Kate's hands are dangerously close to Chloe's shameful parts. It's not Christian behaviour.
>>122462784
>I don't wanna know...
>>122462243
>>122462784
>>122463009
>Santa Monica Dream
>Not Syd Matters's songs
sad songs just only for losers anon
>>122463246
>Syd Matters
Well good that fucking something does, my choices certainly didn't.
>tfw you finally reached acceptance stageI still won't buy S2
>>122462706
A U T I S M
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>>122463368
To All of You
Michel's girls it's sad to
Imagine:) of world without imagination:)
Imagination:) I'd like to
Be part of the world around you
Driving in the car by the sea side
Watching endings from the bright side
To All Of You
Michel's girls in the movies
No one can tell where your body is
Michel's girls like imaginations:)
With shitty smiles:) and plastic brains
I wish i had an American imagination:)
I cry sometimes walking around my own place
Wondering why budget sucks sometimes
Talking about his own place
Somewhere around the imaginations:)
No one could dry his brain
Till he got tired to complain
That's when i shit to the imagination,to your imagination:)
>>122464459
simply ebin
>>122446821
This game gave me depression.
>>122464459
No emoji, Michel :)
>>122446821
This game taught me,how to use my imagination:)
Thank you Dontnod
Thank you Michel
Thank you Imagination:)
>>122464171
Good god
Baealltheway
>>122466092
Fuck the bae ending. It's still an atrocious piece of shit no matter how much people insist it's the "better" of the two.
>>122464062
What if it continues the story right before the cliff scene?
>>122466342
Can we just agree with ''BOTH ENDINGS ARE SHIT'' ?
>>122466446
Yes we most certainly can.
>>122455702
>fell off the archives
I just haven't updated it for a few threads. It'll be in there when I next update it
>>122466092
>>122466342
>Bay ending:
>Just Max will remember everything
>Your choices are fucked up
>The lesson is: You shouldn't have used your power,even you shouldn't made choices.Now erase everything and act like it never happened.Forget your choices.
>But Max will definitely continue in this direction
>Also use ur imagination :)
>Bae ending:
>Storm's gone and not gonna come back ,anymore.Chloe's alive.
>But ''We left other characters fate blurry'' nobody knows what happened to them.It's up to your imagination:)''
>What about Chloe and Max and their kiss? -It'll certainly happen after,just use y-
Fuck it.
Holy FUCK guys.
I finally got around to finishing To The Moon.
Go play it. It was literally made for us.
>>122466741
Oh k, I just noticed it wasn't in the op either while older polls seem to be, assumed it got lost.
>>122466850
Are you trying to trick us?
Atleast one of the steam reviews says
>One of the most emotional games you'll ever play
and atleast i'm not ready yet.
>>122466342
most people prefer Bae ending because at the very least it has some kind of message, to move forward, to fight for what is important to you and to stop trying to fix the past. Bay ending has nothing to say. It exists purely for forced tragedy.
Why did Max use the Time Distortion Sword to cut the storm
Can anyone think of a LiS related IGN for League?
>>122467003
It's hugely emotional, but it's immensely SATISFYING. It tricks you at first and towards the end it feels like another horrible self-defeating decision must be made, but then it gets clever on you and it aaaall comes together.
It's seriously like post-LiS therapy, it even goes through some of the same gutwrenching visuals but then it fixes everything!
It's only about 3 hours long, too.
>>122466959
>it wasn't in the op
There were a bunch of other polls too but no one has bothered updating the strawpolls in OP.
>>122467108
What's your favorite champion? Maybe we could pick something up from there.
Otherwise you could name yourself Max Caulfield like the new Caulfield hammer item
>>122467006
The supposed message that baefags insist is there is complete bullshit. If Max was supposed to learn to stop trying to fix the past she should have just left things as they were when Warren explained how the storm was created. How convenient she learns this eye-opening lesson AFTER she changed the timeline yet again to save Chloe. But God forbid she go to the same effort for anyone else and warn people about the tornado.
>>122466383
Nope, still no buy.maybe pirate
>>122467267
I'm a competitive player so I don't really have favorites, I just play what's strong.
>>122467138
There's the little minisode DLCs that are free too. I hope you've played them.
Took me about 4 hours to complete everything
>>122467267
>There were a bunch of other polls too but no one has bothered updating the strawpolls in OP.
Thought there might be, that one just stuck out since I still had it open. Couldn't be bothered hunting for any other potentially lost ones at the time, and I guess it's lucky I didn't - how could I ever have doubted our based archivist wasn't on top of things?!
>>122467350
Ouch, good point! Almost a month in and another new shirty angle is never thought of before! See guys, I told you there'd be plenty of shit to discuss and keep us alive after the episode came out! I had hoped it'd be more positive, but oh well.
>>122467673
>I'd never thought
Fix'd
>>122467673
It only takes a little digging and eventually you'll spot a detail that just makes the endings even worse in hindsight. This really is Mass Effect 3 all over again.
>>122446760
Jesus fuck. Broke down watching this. Best tribute video i've seen.
>tfw playing anything to fill the LiS void
I even started playing JJBA All Star Battle again and that game is meh
supposedly 11 people here are 30+. please identify yourselves
>>122467459
>competitive players
>not having favorites
A lot of the competitive players do though.
Suggestions :
Chloe/Nathan/Jefferson did nothing wrong
Hawtdawgman
Nerf Yourselfie
I'm not very creative unfortunately.
>>122467350
I never said it's a great message or a well executed one without logical flaws. Still doesn't change the fact that she learns the lesson at the end of the bae ending and there is still no lesson to be learnt in the bay ending.
>>122467350
>.. she should have just left things as they were when Warren explained how the storm was created
-in Episode 5 (during the storm)-
Max: Hey Warren i've got time-travel powers and probably i'm causing all of this
Warren: Oh Max i believe you.. didn't you hear about Chaos Theory (says some scientific shit we've heard) So that makes sense...
Max: OK so my power's origin(!) explained. Anyways where's my photo? I need it
Warren: Here
Max:OK.Bye
Ah,never gets old..
>>122469142
>>122467350
Also, isn't it kind of normal for the protagonist to learn their final lesson at the end of the story? What kind of stupid argument is this to say "hurrr Max could have learnt the lesson earlier than when she did, hence it doesn't count".
Well, yes. she could have learnt the lesson in episode 2 at the fucking junk yard or when Kate kills herself and then that would have been the end of the game. But that's not how storytelling works, you genius.
Is the hospital in Arcadia Bay or not?
If so, Kate will not be ded?
Because fuck the bay.
>>122469330
If you need to force your protagonist to be a retard to make sure they wait for the climax, you're a shitty writer.
>>122469297
>>122469297
>Woo, art gallery!
>Max, halp, the storm, I'm ded!
>Oh yeah, that thing
>Hey Warren, gimme photo
>Max, your powers are causing the storm!
>Oh shit, thanks Warren I'll keep that in mind.
>Get the fuck off me, past-Warren. And feel free to go to the diner tomorrow morning, it totally won't blow up or anything. Anyway, Chloe, you're about to die so let's avoid that. Nothing else of any importance is about to happen though, let's just go back to your place and fuck. Send your mom to work or something, it's fine.
>Oh shit Max, a storm, what'll we do?! My mom doesn't deserve to die in that fucking diner!
>lolwhups
It's easy to get sad to the sad songs... But does anyone else get pretty sad even with the happier songs?
Naughty has made me cry before. Just had a dream where I heard it and in the dream, I also felt my chest tighten and the feeling of wanting to cry. Since it plays all the way back in episode 2, it makes me miss the happier times, the times where everything about the game felt great and made me smile. It's such a happy song and it just makes me even more upset.
Fuck this when will it end
>>122469484
No, that order is the very basics of story telling. Protagonist has a goal, faces struggle, overcomes or succumbs to said struggle, then takes something away from that. Whether that's personal growth, a specific lesson or just a funny punchline, doesn't matter. The resolve comes AFTER the struggle, not in the middle of it.
I don't disagree that Dontnod are clearly terrible writers whose entire story is relying on the fact that Max has to act several times like a complete retard, but the actual structure is not wrong. Max shouldn't have learnt her lesson before the real climax even began. If anything, it's Warren and his ridiculous explanation that Max just believes at face value, that is out of place here.
>>122467350
You wanna lesson? Okay..
Bay ending: Max shouldn't have used her power,she shouldn't have saved Chloe,and even you shouldn't played this game.Also Chloe causes the storm because fuck the logic.Wait what about Max's powers? Only God knows it.Now, erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
Bae ending: Your choices will be matter at least. Wait, what about other characters? They left other characters's fate unknown, we don't know they died or not. Chloe's alive and storm's gone forever.How? because fuck the logic.
>Epilogue for both endings: Fuck the logic and use your imagination:)
>>122469947
Max's stupidity was strong in Episode 5.
>>122470021
Listening to the ep2 songs in sequence always trips me up, it's like 5 super happy songs and it always gets me pumped up, then fucking Mt Washington, every time.
But no, I don't get sad to happy songs.
>>122470080
You're arguing a point I was not contesting while agreeing to the point I was making. I don't think you know how an argument works.
>>122470098
>Epilogue for both endings: Fuck the logic and use your imagination:)
>>122469908
that pic isn't real y' know? that's why Max confused when she saw it.
>>122470098
Choices matter so much less in the Bae ending. Everyone is either dead or too traumatised to give a shit about any little thing Max might have done that week, and Max is leaving range Bay behind and will never see or be impacted by them again.
In the Bay ending Max remembers everything and will take that into her future interactions with everyone (probably causing another storm since there is no way for her to continue on as if she never got powers, but that's another issue).
>>122470324
Shit man, at least BP disingenuously said sorry, way more than Dontnod's done.
Dontnods more "what should I do?"
>>122469947
>Anyway, Chloe, you're about to die so let's avoid that. Nothing else of any importance is about to happen though
Seriously, that was easily the most idiotic part of the entire game. Max just barely escapes the tornado, then she doesn't mention the tornado at all to Chloe. How did she even expect to survive that timeline once autopilot Max takes over? She wasn't in any way aware that autopilot Max would bring up the lighthouse. Even real Max didn't know that the lighthouse was safe.
>>122467350
>If Max was supposed to learn to stop trying to fix the past she should have just left things as they were when Warren explained how the storm was created
FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE!! CHLOE HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED IT IN EPISODE 2.
But game devs wanted to make ''we couldn't explain Max's powers but at least we can make this dialogue,they don't give a shit anyway ''
>>122467350
You're forgetting the most important factor here. Max is willing to possibly fuck things up more to bring back Chloe. If she were still alive when she went to Warren, she probably wouldn't have done anything further
>>122470643
How the hell did they even justify the Bay ending after Max already went back to save Chloe while knowing full well that it was her causing the storm? Why did we not have the cliff conversation in the focus?
Seriously, why the fuck does that Warren conversation exist? It's the worst written piece of dialogue in the entire game, it makes Max look like a moron on multiple levels, and it completely obliterates the flow of the plot.
>>122470458
>Choices matter so much less in the Bae ending
>In the Bay ending Max remembers everything and will take that into her future interactions with everyone
Here we go again.. Both endings are shit i agree but;
In LiS's original timeline where game started when we saved Chloe in the bathroom,also where you started to made choices.In the Bay ending Max remembers everything but you erase ALL YOUR DAMN CHOICES. Chloe and David never argued in her room,you never talked with Wells,Kate didn't commit to suicide,Frank, all your relationship with all people... Max remembers everything but that's not that point.
In the Bae ending Chloe lives and at least some of your choices will be matter also Max always tried to save Chloe and shit.Also we didn't even know everybody's dead or something they said it ''we left blurry'' that's why we shittin' with Michel about using our imaginations:) bud.
>>122470638
I remember this and Max's response was all whatever to Chloe and in Ep 5 she believes Warren. It was frustrating.
>>122470996
>Max remembers everything but that's not that point.
How is that not the point? Her experiences with people over that week will directly influence how she treats them going forward. Just like she's a bitch to Vic in the classroom focus if they were on bad terms or nicer if they were on good terms.
If Vic is dead or traumatised, it doesn't matter in the least how Max treated her.
That your choices happened does not mean they matter. That they didn't happen doesn't mean they didn't matter.
Your choices happened in the Bae ending, they didn't happen in the Bay ending. They matter in neither because this game sucks and we're all chumps for playing it, but they would have much more impact on the future in the Bay ending (which is also a giant plot hole).
>>122471167
Chloe brings it up again in ep3 and Max accuses her of being funny.
God damn Max why are you so stubbornly moronic?
This shit annoyed me enough at the time when I was still curious about the storm and it seemed to be something worth looking into, but at least back then I thought we were moving towards an explanation by investigating the Prescotts.
>>122471167
Because Max didn't give a shit about the storm (even she sees visions) until Episode 5. She interested with Kate and Rachel's story.
And honestly in during the storm,if Pompidou starts talking and says me ''OMG UR POWERS CAUSE THE STORM'' i'd believe it because it's already happening.
>>122470996
>Here we go again..
You brought it up man. This is what happens when you rank one ending over another in any way instead of uniting in blanket hatred.
>>122470458
You forget that a tornado hits Arcadia Bay roughly every 4 years according to the game. If we are to believe bayfags, then there is no way to possibly survive a tornado, the townpeople are all incapable of seeking shelter, so they are doomed to die anyway. You sacrificed Chloe so they can have 4 more years to live.
>>122471379
I think that was in reference to Oregon in general, but yeah even in ep1 that struck me as a really weird thing to point out like it doesn't matter.
But also Max's tornado was a magic double-moon tornado, so it's probably more lethal because the writers need it to be.
>>122471357
>we'll never get a Silent Hill secret ending where the dog did it
>>122471486
>probably more lethal
>telephone polls are still standing
>main home structures are still standing
>cars are still right side up sitting in the street
Hell, that's about an EF2 level of damage. EF2's rarely have any body count outside of people who are struck with debris being outside
>>122471216
>How is that not the point? Her experiences with people over that week.Just like she's a bitch to Vic in the classroom
So doesn't it change everything? even timeline?
>That your choices happened does not mean they matter. That they didn't happen doesn't mean they didn't matter.
Dude my whole point is Max always tried to save Chloe in whole game.And in the end you let her die,erase your choices and shit.How could even possible that it doesn't mean they didn't matter? Just Max remembers it and probably she can't use her powers anymore.But she remembers everything,people and relationships.. But it doesn't change the fact that choices are erased.Because they erased.
Anyways I'm not gonna argue with you because i just said ''Both endings are shitty enough''
>>122471647
That's just muh budget. Warren says there were flying cars from 9am trapping him in the diner, and apparently the train was pushed into the street or something etc. It was clearly intended to be devastating. Sacrificing Chloe's life to save some buildings from being repainted is just retarded, even by Dontnod's standards.
>>122471486
>so it's probably more lethal because the writers need it to be.
They never actually established that though. It was caused by Max's time travel, nowhere did they mention it was exceptionally strong because of its unnatural origin. The very fact that the tornado just affected one tiny coastal town kind of leads to the opposite assumption, that it was an exceptionally weak tornado.
>>122471739
The point is Ep5 contradicts itself and eps 1-4 at every opportunity which is why it's a giant pile of shit, and why both endings are shit, and holy shit someone shout already.
>>122471583
The dog ending is amazing.
>Pompidou inside the tornado controlling it.
>"So it was all your work!" Max OTL
>Pompidou kisses her face. Fade to black
>Credits of LIS with dog barking music. Best ending ever.
>>122471779
A wizard did it dude, they ain't gotta explain shit, it's as strong as it needs to be for them to force their stupid choice.
>>122471849
Caps anon where are you?! Save us with your cathartic fury!
>>122471739
Just as Max can't prove that she can stop the tornado or that it's even her fault that it exists, she can't know for certain just how much damage the tornado will cause. When you're given the shitty ending choice selection, you're putting faith in an ability to stop the tornado or accepting your choices might have caused the tornado and moving forward, hoping it isn't as deadly as it looks. Guess what? It wasn't as deadly as it looked.
>>122471889
Oh god, you know that shitty bark effect on old piano keyboards? Just imagine Obstacles but with the lyrics replaced with that barking melody.
Forget replacing ep5 with something well written, forget an extended epilogue, forget DLC. Just give me this.
>>122472129
Or you could just, y'know, watching the tornado and see what the damage is, then focus back and kill Chloe if it's too much to justify and see if that works. Or even go back, save Chloe, then change nothing else and see if that works. Or go back, save Chloe, then evacuate the town and see if that works.
There's literally no reason for Max I go on faith here.
>think about setting my phone's text ringer to Max's text notification sound
>realize I have no friends and get no texts
>>122472262
Like I said, it was a shitty ending choice selection. My point is that if we have to look at it from the terrible perspective they presented us, that's what happens.
>>122472384
Except not really, since word of God says there's no kiss in that ending because it'd be innapropriate with all the death and destruction, but also we can't see what really happened because we have to move on and leave it ambiguous.
>>122472356
Download link for the text sound?even though I don't have any friends either
>>122472356
I always set my phone to funny ringtones, only to have it on silent constantly because who the fuck needs a ringtone when they vibrate and you're always listening to your iPod anyway.
But yeah also no one to contact me.
>>122472356
Make it the consequence chime instead, because every time someone contacts you will be so unusual that it will feel pivotal, but then really just turn out to be a telemarketer or some shit and will have no impact on your life, just like LiS choices.
Personally, I'd like to have 'holy shit, what do you want now' and 'time to shut the fuck up okay' as my text and ringer tones because I hate getting calls and texts (because it's usually fucking telemarketers). But even if I could be bothered to find the sound files, I don't want my phone to swear out loud for all to hear when there could be children about!
>>122472732
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48225483/LiS.SMS.mp3
Here ya go, I've had it as mine for a while but nobody really texts me either besides my mom sometimes.
>>122472491
magic word:imagination:)
>>122473154
>Make it the consequence chime instead, because every time someone contacts you will be so unusual that it will feel pivotal, but then really just turn out to be a telemarketer or some shit and will have no impact on your life, just like LiS choices.
Ok now thats a better idea
>>122472138
>>122471889
That would be amazing lol
>>122473309
Thanks!
>>122473154
Do you have to have a download for the consequences chime?
>>122473726
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48225483/LiS.Consequences.mp3
There's a steam thread with a few other sounds
Remember guys, use your imagination :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kd02BWVTsM
Okay, so, how much of an time investment is this game from beginning to end? I want to play and finish it for backlog reasons, despite people telling me it's less interesting to do so, knowing that the choices you make through the game don't change the ending whatsoever. Total time investment, without looking for every little detail in the game.
>>122472138
Should I try to make this? I just need an instrumental of Obstacles
>>122473726
>Do you have to have a download for the consequences chime?
https://instaud.io/a8t
>>122474157
10-20 hours, with 20 being 'look at literally everything and suck at every puzzle'
>>122474126
Hey, my video :)
>>122474179
I was going try it with the Silent Hill 2 dog music, but when I try to take out the sound it just leaves the music ><
Here is where I got the instrumental. Give it a go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV8SRAxeghQ
>>122474157
between 14 to 18 hours
at least thats what internet says me i dont remember how long i played
>>122474157
It took me a total of about 17 hours, but I tried to look around a lot.
>>122474069
>>122474219
Thanks guys!
>>122474157
>>122474434
I finished it in 12 hours, but I didn't replay any episodes.
>>122474382
>>122474434
>>122474707
>>122474904
Shit, so it's quite the time investment.
I'll look into it. Thanks a lot, guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw_0Bxqpc9o
Post comfy songs
And dream of Chloe.
>>122475419
Yeah, I usually fired the game up at 22.30, and played until 1 in the morning, each episode.
>Playing Fallout 4
>Visiting Vault 81
>Speaking with Tina
>Tina is voiced by Ashly Burch
Holy shit, guys. My heart. Had to think of Chloe. God. I'm so triggered. What a wonderful voice. What a wonderful characters.
Find a flaw.
>>122475914
She's not sitting in Max' lap.
>>122475914
IMPOSSIBLE
>>122475496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drIWW4hXV34
>>122475496
I genuinely think LiS has the best songs and general music in any video game I have literally ever played.
Also my favorite;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQk0O-QjpiU
Crosses is also very comfy
I really wonder what kind of guy Nathan would have been if he hadn't had all his problems.
They really defined him. He wasn't even really a person anymore by the time we met him, just a culmination of behavioural issues and abuses. Which is both why Jefferson knew initially that he'd make a good target, and a direct result of his manipulations - easy to puppeteer someone harder and harder once you really strip them down until you're all they have left, when they're just a husk who'll politely wait for you to murder them because there's nothing left in them that would to enable them to simply choose not to die.
Kate's pretty defined by her current predicament, but we still get a hazy idea of the sort of person she probably is outside of that, based on references to the past, her general behaviour, the hospital scene, etc.
We get a feel for Vic from others' comments, the AU, her reconciling with Max.
We can separate Chloe from her trauma through flashbacks, the AU, character growth.
But it's interesting that we're never really going to know what kind of guy Nathan is at a default setting.
I guess that's why he's still quite a polarising character, because he's hard to connect with on a casual human level. You might connect to what he's going through, and you might connect with what he's done, but there's no real "him" in between. Which makes him both hard to blame and hard to forgive.
He literally is just a tool. And I find that so damn interesting.
>>122475914
>leaving a suicidal girl alone with a pencil
>>122475914
Her hair is tied up.
>>122475914
>she doesn't have the cross on
What does it imply?
>>122475914
Her head looks about twice as big as a normal person
>>122478156
She's in her jim jams, give her a break. She's still got the J-man's portrait by her bed.
>>122470458
>(probably causing another storm since there is no way for her to continue on as if she never got powers, but that's another issue).
>>122475914
she looks 15 but i dont now if thats a flaw
What if Season Two does a complete 180 and features a dark and grimy atmosphere and music, very much like The Wolf Among Us?
With Vampyr, I imagine they will get quite experienced in creating such atmospheres.
>>122478473
On the flip side, letting the tornado kill many who weren't supposed to die would also cause massive changes.
>>122478620
>What if Season Two does a complete 180 and features a dark and grimy atmosphere and music, very much like The Wolf Among Us?
Gross. That was half the problem with episode 5. Dontnod can't do high drama or adrenaline, they need to go back to the comfy and hum-drum depression. Not that I'll play it anyway.
>>122478626
yep, both endings are shit, no argument there
Post more best girls
>>122479450
I don't mean to embarrass you, anon, but you posted the wrong pic.
>>122479586
>NOT POSTING KATE
>>122479656
Enjoying that popsicle, Kate? Having fun sucking it all down and licking up any drips?
>>122475836
>tfw she wont join my settlements even though I passed the speech check
fucksake bethesda
GUH WARREN AND BROOKE LOOK SO CUTE TOGETHER AND WE NEVER GET TO HOOK THEM UP PROPERLY IT'S LIKE THE FIRST OBJECTIVEY THING MAX THINKS OF WHAT THE HELL DONTNOD LET ME GET THESE TWO CRAZY BITCHES OFF MY ASS
>tfw we'll never play a quirky supernatural comedy starring David Madsen investigating Lovecraftian horrors but completely missing all the really obvious clues and simply accusing all his witnesses and informants of being on hallucinogens and investigating a nonexistant drug ring instead until he stumbles on the key to the mystery thanks to the off screen meddling of some teenage dumbass
Why live?
>>122479761
shh, just kiss
Christ, guys.
Is it ever going to stop fucking hurting?
Looking through my LiS folder, and it just hurts so bad.
>>122480427
This sounds amazing.
>>122480264
This is a shameful display. And from a Kate friend too.
>>122481001
I just want the feeling of waiting for something to happen to go away, feels like story blue balls.
Does anyone have that pic of Frank with his arms outstretched covered in text?
>>122481323
SEXUALIZE ALL THE GIRLS
>>122481439
This is indeed a very blue-balls game.
Living in hope of something to happen
Frank did nothing wrong
Lisa did nothing wrong
>>122484337
Much obliged, no clue why I didn't already have it saved.
>TFW NO QT KATE GF
>>122474069
why did that mere 5 second clip made me feel things
>>122484805
Because while dontnod might have hack writers, they are fucking feel wizards.
If the multiverse exists and there is a universe for every possible outcome, do you think there's a universe where LiS lived up to it's potential, or was it always doomed?
>>122485375
>every possible outcome
...duh?
>>122485570
Keyword being possible.
There's no universe where you flip a heads/tails coin and it comes up vagina.
Kate is such a slut you guys
>>122485849
She looks pretty in this pic
>>122485849
Don't say that, anon! You make Kate cry!
>>122485969
I didnt mean to
Victoria is the true slut
She has some repressed feelings
>>122480060
>yfw Chloe finally learnt how to evade physic laws like death due to Max actions
>>122480060
>Max carrying Chloe without any effort
yeah, no
>>122466805
young Max is hella cute
>>122485375
Seems like the writers always wanted a forced sad ending, no matter what. Maybe there's an alternate universe where Donnie Darko and The Butterfly Effect were never made, thus these movies never inspired a whole generation of hack writers to end their time travel stories in this particular cliché way.
In that universe, the writers were instead inspired by Back to the Future and LiS is a comfy, humorous time travel adventure with a second season already confirmed.
>>122491489
Stop making me feel those feels.AU me, you'd better build a fucking universe jumping machine and deliver the true ending.
>>122476727
>t. mari
leave. now.
Kate is the best girl, prove me wrong.
>>122470604
>Even real Max didn't know that the lighthouse was safe.
If anything her visions had her thinking the lighthouse wasn't safe. The finale is pathetic. Just because the game is about characters doesn't mean the story doesn't have to make sense. And even ignoring any plot illogicality, this story at so many points only "make sense" if Max is a proper retard for some of them or a malevolent bitch for other. Same goes for other characters for that matter. It's so infuriating. We weren't even rewarded with satisfying endings for enduring and having to fucking actively participate in her stupidity.
>>122476480
This sounds mostly reasonable, but I think there's definitely some character quality to be found there. His fascination with the morbid is very much something he's personally intrigued by. Seeing Jefferson as a father figure maybe drove him into the dark room relationship, but his obsessions are his own and just because he didn't "want" to hurt anybody pursuing it doesn't mean he wasn't at least willing to take that risk. He's disregarding other people left and right. I don't think we can just put all of his behaviour down as a product of circumstances out of his control. He has some personal will and desires and if anything, the fact that we do know that he does know how rotten the stuff he does is and that it does hurt people strenghtens the blame. Same with his chill AU self supposedly still being involved with the dark room.
>>122490961
alive again
>nobody replies to your forced discussion
>start samefagging
lol
dont be upset
>>122488336
>>122488516
>implying Chloe's core hasn't developed to the point that she can levitate
I was a happy, optimistic, well-adjusted person before I played this game.
>>122481439
>>122482343
The ending literally gave me blue balls. Literally.
I'M SO DISSATISFIED
I WANT TO STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS GAME BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T
AUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5lsTadfcSU
>good ending
>shhh, hear that? That's the sound of baefags getting triggered to oblivion.
>>122495542
both endings are shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXoFirohQA
I want the ending where we're just dancing with Chloe and no one has died
>>122495542
Sorry buddy, but you're 3 weeks to late to trigger anyone with edgy utalitarianism and retarded youtubers.
>>122491489
God I fucking hate time travel stuff for this exact reason
>>122495539
are you me?
HEY ARE YOU ALL COMING TO THE VORTEX PARTY TONIGHT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-65eZjRJw
>>122498679
>that pic
Right in my nostalgia.
Reminder that Vickyfans have the highest IQ, longest dick size, largest brain size, largest knowledge brains, most loyal fans now that the normies are gone and the most based humans to ever walk the planet.
Kateautists= homosexual. Kate=latent homosexual. Kate was a man in drag
>>122498679
maybe
>>122460550
>heck
lel
>>122445925
I NEEDED THAT
daily reminder that the attacks in paris were done by people pissed off about episode 5
>>122501873
I live near Paris and I'm still not at Episode 5.
What will happen?
>>122485375
Anon .... there is only one universe at the macrolevel.
Trust me.
This game made me nostalgic for friends and experiences that I've never had.
Just saw the Alice through the looking glass trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvGUW-vsLE
>blue butterfly
>all the time references
Why is the world determined to rub salt in the wound...
Rec me games like lis or just good games in general. I've already played to the moon and undertale
I need to keep filling the void that is my heart with something else, otherwise I just feel empty inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw14tyBYlM8
>6 and 1/2 hour commentary
>maybe I'll listen
>he picked bay/bae
nah
>>122502379
Black Ops 3 is very similar to LiS
>>122502269
Blue butterflies seem to be related to time in some forms of mysticism or folklore or whatever, so it's probably no coincidence you'd see the connection somewhere else.
>>122446838
why tf they put Warren's face on Taylor and Max's on the dude's
>>122501873
then y didn't they go to dontnod hq?
Tumblr
the game
is there any downside at all to taking the money? i pussied out in my playthrough, it seems like i may as well have done it, although i was able to deal with frank fine without it
Meme
the game
Original
the anon
>>122446838
just lock yourself in a garage with a running car f a m
>>122502847
Nah, the principal either dies or everything you do is taken back.
>>122502847
Take the money. The school won't be around long enough to make handicap changes
Why would she want her to wash it though...
Did anyone ever try to find all the references to Twin Peaks in there?
>>122503190
this looks atrocious
>>122503190
Maybe she touched herself while wearing it thinking of Max.
>>122503307
Shippers won't notice.
>>122503215
Not at all worth it for me. It's just not rewarding to do when we now know they were just throwing stuff willy-nilly into the game without too much governing thought or interconnection. TVtropes might have some for you though.
>>122502251
>This game made me nostalgic for friends and experiences that I've never had.
So much this, more than the qt lesbians, more than the music, this is what i need more of.
>>122503382
but will your mother notice?
>>122502847
The downside is that Kate will disapprove of your sin.
>>122503347
But wouldn't Victoria want Max's smell on it?
I guess they had to come up with something for her to say, but they could have just as well had her warn Max to be careful with it and not to stain it if she "valued her life" and to return it in the evening.
>>122503737
I agree, it's nice though, like a background hum.
Also "Winston Smith Missing Since 06/08/1984" WTF
>>122464171
Holy shit I laughed so much thanks
>>122504068
Of course, she's not retarded so she doesn't ship Chasefield.
>>122503215
>>122503737
I don't think there's supposed to be very direct connections, it's just an allusion to David Lynch's work that acts like a clue to what's going on in the game.
Lynch is known for repeatedly using the theme of dark, twisted things going on behind the peaceful facades of small, rural towns. White picket fences, etc. . .
I think that's basically it. They're just using the allusion to hint that there is something like that going on.
>Japanese release to coincide with limited edition
>Game is labeled SOL/Yuri
>first Yuri game by Square Enix
>baka gaijin game
>girls in game is not pure waifu material, disproportion boobs or cute
ugh this game is going to bomb in Japan isn't it? If this game did well do you guys think we will get cute non-porn doujins like all of the Fang/Vanille doujins out there?
>>122504574
The very idea of the childhood friend not only being the main love interest but also winning must be such a foreign experience for them.
>>122503382
Even maximum victory trash have standards.
>>122504574
>Yuri
How is this game Yuri? It's more slice of life isn't it?
>>122504574
>girls in game is not pure waifu material
Maybe the Japanese release will take out the condoms from the wallet and Chloe saying she had a boy toy phase? To keep Chloe "pure".
>we will get cute non-porn doujins like all of the Fang/Vanille doujins out there?
I'm sure we will. Girls over there will eat this game up. I think there will be a lot of Maximum Victory doujins too.
>>122504574
>marketing it as yuri
Seriously? Fucking Japan, I can't believe I actually used to want to visit that place.
>>122504574
Of course it's going to flop in Japan. They don't care about this type of garbage.
>>122504574
IIRC Max is a virgin.
>>122504574
>cute non-porn doujins
Please Japan we're counting on you
>>122504574
Japs love fake America where everyone is some sort of blonde haired blue eyed jock and we travel via Aircraft Carriers. They don't want authentic America like this where the game captures what life would be like here.
>>122504537
Only that in TP there actually WAS something evil and ominous going on and people WERE involved in shady shit somehow. Here it's just some washed-up hipster taking photos. So I don't know how well that setting applies here.
But you are right, references in general are just little fun hints and mostly used for the sake of it anyway. I didn't mean specifically TP references either. Just that there's quite a lot of stuff to discover in LiS obviously, and I used to eagerly look at that. But now that I know most of it just doesn't lead anywhere I can't get myself to look at the things with the same eagerness. Maybe it even CAN be puzzled out somehow, maybe they DID put some elaborate thought in there (i. e. Rachel and native american stuff) but at this point it just seems too badly made for me to waste my time on that. The dev straight up saying the nightmare is "Max's subconscious" put the final nail in the coffin of trying to find some greater interconnected meaning between all the stuff.
>>122505087
Why would you think this when there's literally a scene in the game that proves otherwise?
>>122469350
It is not
At least it's not on the map.
Even if it was though it's highly unlikely anyone would die as places like hospitals are very disasterproof.
>>122504574
>girls in game is not pure waifu material, disproportion boobs or cute
>pure waifu
Max is a virgin, her first kiss was with another girl so it "doesn't count" of course
>cute
I thought Max is cute, insanely cute and likable.
>>122505307
[citations needed]
>>122505307
What scene is this?
>>122505518
>>122505527
It was implyied that during one of the movie nights she fucked Warren which is why he sees himself as her boyfriend.
>Unused audio of Kate in Max’s nightmare.
http://chloepriceprotectionsquad.tumblr.com/post/133360210269/unused-audio-of-kate-in-maxs-nightmare
>>122505307
...no. she's a kissless virgin (Chloe is her first kiss).
>>122505786
good lord
>>122505518
>>122505527
>>122505848
>>122506054
>they didn't get the super secret scene whereJoyce takes Max's virginity in the diner
>>122505848
or warren, if you're a terrible person
>>122505773
Ahahahahahaha. No.
>>122505773
delete this
>>122491489
This whole post but especially this
>In that universe, the writers were instead inspired by Back to the Future and LiS is a comfy, humorous time travel adventure with a second season already confirmed.
makes me feel hella bad
>>122505786
Christ is there any unused/used audio that doesn't make Max's subconscious make max out to be a psycho lesbian?
>>122505848
>slut gives you your fist kiss
>willing to mow down an entire town for her
So Max is /v/.
>>122505786
>dialogue for two outcomes (saving/not saving Kate) in one file
Okay, I laughed at the contrast.
>>122504814
It's just that you can't have too demanding standards with such a niche game, and a secondary ship on top of that. There's a handful of good stuff out there, - but chilla/haize collaborating and then putting something out there of that comic-y quality really is disappointing when normally each of them (primarily chilla) can be considered of a go-to for decent Maximum Victory stuff.
>>122506054
This gif....its amazing
>>122504574
>Japanese release to coincide with limited edition
Wait really? Source?
I need to import this from Japan and play in weeb
>>122506729
Its in the enhance edition, you can switch the audio into French, Jap and English.
>>122505013
> will take out the condoms from the wallet
Wait, what?
>>122507006
And start using them on them hot jocks, it would be the enhance edition gangbang scene.
>>122505786
Is it just me or Max wants Kate to be gay for her.
>>122507117
>>122506443
how did you guys get lesbian shit out of that audio
>>122506827
Do you mean the Limited Edition? Because the product page on SquareStore says 'English audio only' and i don't know about any other editions
>>122505786
>you might win a pewlitzer
Kek. Their VO director a shit.
>>122507215
Honestly, it's not hard, mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAVQmbNbBs
>arccuchaduga bae
>crewweee
>>122507215
>i bet you would like be the one taking the pictures instead of Jefferson
That's not gay or creepy or anything for your subconscious to be telling you that.
>>122507603
>tfw chills watching this again
fuck, will this ever go away
>>122507851
How can you even understand what they are saying?
>>122507603
>Raifu Iz Storenji
It's hilarious, they look western but sound eastern.
>>122507851
same
I really hope it does halfway decent there, but I'm doubtful
Life is Triangular anon, when is the next chapter coming out? The lack of Maximum Victory fic updates these days is alarming.
>>122507875
i just meant seeing the trailer again
>>122479767
yeah, same here. She's just standing around doing nothing.
>>122507964
Inb4 the localization changes the Belgian Waffle vs Bacon Omelet into Japanese foods
Herra rame.
>>122507875
You mean you don't know the dialogues from memory?
>>122508035
This movie did pretty well in Japan, and LIS is basically the same thing except with a cute girl. So it should do okay...
>>122507603
>MAKSU!
>KUROE!
>>122508202
most likely they're gonna keep it as localized as possible, right?
>>122508202
Why? Seriously I watch shit like K-On! or Yuru Yuri because I want to see cute girls doing Japanese shit and eating Japanese food. Why the fuck would I want them to localize that? Are the japs not interested at all in our culture?
>>122508402
>>122508405
You guys are tards, it's not going to be fucking changed.
>>122508202
But they love waffuru there
>>122508485
But do they love the bekkonu?
>>122508526
You don't add a "u" after a word ending in "n" you fake weeb
>>122508526
The only people that don't love bacon are those fucking mudslime terrorists, are you a motherfucking mudslime terrorist?
Soooooooo, what are the good Maximum Victory fics out there?
ᴾʳᶦᶜᵉᶠᶦᵉᶫᵈ⋅
>>122508076
Don't remind me. Every fucking night on my phone and hardly updates. Everything people do these days is post-ending fics, which is frankly the worst; the ending already ruined the game, please let me have my comfy fiction at least.
I have gone back to actual literature as bedtime reading.
>>122508725
That said, updates every 10/25th according to Nova. So 8 days.
>>122508725
Don't lose faith there are some good fics out there, the one where Chloe was elected the mayor of Arcadia Bay was actually pretty good. it got pretty dark towards the end though.
>>122508405
I was making a bad joke like how stuff in anime has been changed in dubs to make it more American. The most famous being in Pokemon.
>Onigiri becomes a Jelly Doughnut
>MFW
>>122505786
>a-fucking-men
Kate would not say this even in someone else's subconscious.
>>122508076
25th my man. Speaking of where is my detective anon? I was curious what he thought of the latest chatper.
>>122508725
H-haha sorry... i'll work faster..
>just started playing the game
>Prescott is the name of the bad guys
>tfw I am from Prescott Co Oregon
>tfw the Prescott saved Alexandria Bay after it was devastated by a fucking Tornado
Kinda triggered when DONTNOD didn't even bother to learn about Oregon's history. The Prescott family are good people.
>>122509265
Nobody gives a fuck, this is not your blog.
>>122509250
I wasn't even referring to you though. You have a set schedule so that is fine. Generally the Max/Vic tag is a wasteland though.;;
Don't think the detective anon's been commenting on it, but there was some talk over the last few threads.
>>122509265
>tfw the Prescott saved Alexandria Bay after it was devastated by a fucking Tornado
>>122507603
I am counting on JP people doing a post game rewrite that turns Max into Hameru
It's literally been a fucking week since I finished this game and I still can't concentrate on anything else goddammit.
>>122509265
>Googled "Alexandria Bay"
>Alexandria Bay (commonly shortened to Alex Bay or A Bay) is a village in Jefferson County
>Jefferson County
Oh for fuck's sake.
>>122509824
iktf, i haven't played any other vidya since i finished it
>>122509867
Jefferson and Prescott are the same family though, they own pretty much a huge portion of the farmland in Oregon.
>>122509824
It's been almost a month and I still think about the game and characters constantly. Even in my dreams.
The scariest part is I'm not sure if I want it to stop.
>>122510032
>Jefferson and Prescott are the same family thoughSean Prescott is actually Mark Jefferson.
Nathan and Jefferson's fake father-son relationship is actually real father-son relationship.
Nathan has never seen his real father since they always communicated with letters.
Screencap this.
>>122509867
>>122509265
>>122510032
>Prescott Co Oregon
>Jefferson County
>Alexandria Bay
>devastated by a fucking Tornado
>Prescott (...) own pretty much a huge portion of (...) Oregon.
DEEPEST LORE
>>122510197
>notable schools
>Marshfield High School
>Pricefield High School
>Prescott Elementary
>Jefferson Elementary
>Graham High School
Sorry guys but Oregon ships only two and Warrenkeks isn't one of them.
>>122510174
desu I actually briefly thought this at one point
>>122510174
Except there was a picture of Nathan with Sean. Mark looked suave, Sean looked like some gap-toothed fuck. They're not the same.
>>122510197
>This is because Jefferson could also rewind, but the rewind power declines in usefulness with age
>this is why he kicked the shit out of David, a trained soldier, several times, and his actions appear to 'counter' Max's rewind ideas, and also why he has not been caught yet
>this is also why he has the look of some ancient satan in his eyes (seriously just fucking look at him), he's hundreds of years old
>all he wants is to convince himself innocence still exists in this world
>He was arguing with Wells because he's a major donor to the school because he is Sean Prescott
It's literally the deepest fucking lore oh deary me.
>>122510381
>implying it wasn't a rent-a-father worker
>>122510353
>desu
what the fuck I didn't type that
>>122510317
Is this all a giant set of coincidences or..
>>122510483
baka desu senpai
>>122510197
Google does give me a connection between either of those. No tornado, no Prescott saving the Bay, no connection between the Jeffersons and Prescotts. The only interesting bit is that Prescott is named after the owner of a sawmill, and that's kind of a Twin Peaksy thing.
>>122509265
Any sources to read into that?
>>122510483
t b h
>>122510483
You clearly did. I think it's time to turn off the computer.
>>122510483
Yeah, you can't type certain words anymore ;_;
>>122510510
what word turns into baka?
>>122510805
s m h
>>122510447
>During the Dark Room encounter Jefferson actually mentioned the feeling of deja vu when Max used her powers
Jefferson confirmed for ancient time lord.
>>122510642
Hannibal pls
>>122510510
>>122510632
>>122510642
Ok I'm laughing
>>122510447
>timelord
>let's nathan sloppily kill two people which leads to him being captured
Chloe is a liar.
What kind of breakfast will Joyce make the morning after Max and Chloe consummate their love?
>>122512056
WAKEY WAKEY EGGS AND BAKEY
>>122512056
She'd just go out with David that night and leave some money on the counter for Max and Chloe after they worked up an appetite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReCdPcaDn4M
>>122512056
Flat cakes?
>can't be arse to replay the game just so I can get a screenshot of a flatten Two Whales
>google image instead
>didn't even notice the alive dude that's searching the wreckage
>fucking cunts just drove past him without helping
And this is why lesbians are evil and Bay>Bae.
>>122512880
>alive dude
...wait he was alive?
>>122512880
>alive
He's bend over the pole, anon. He's dead.
There is a copy paste of his body in the bottom left corner.
>>122513005
No he's dead jim, impaled by the sign. That tornado is not normal tornado but a kill everyone in town tornado.
>>122512880
>>122513005
He was deader than dead.
>>122512880
I think that guy is also dead and just slumped over a pole.
Besides. It's possible that Max and Chloe left Arcadia Bay the next day, after they did look for survivors. Which would explain why both of them looked so calm. I really could not see them just driving by the Diner without even checking and driving straight out of the town.
Max and Chloe are actually girlfriends since the night between Wednesday and Thursday, but Max doesn’t know because she was in a different timeline so a few months after the tornado Max “accidentally” confesses and Chloe is like: “Dude I hope so we’re dating for a few months now after all”
>>122512378
Why did this qt want to end it all?
Another question...
>deer that managed to get themselves ran over every single day
>survives
>man
>apex predator of the planet
>all get slaughtered
Possible answers:
1. supernatural storm theory that kills all things human indiscriminately, as long as they are human.
2. gods(Read: Max) think in absolutes, either Chloe or everyone else.
3. humans are wiped out except for two females which sucks because no one will repopulate the planet. Animals reclaim the earth.
>>122513030
I just watched the endings on youtube to check and got angry again over how shitty they were.
>>122513295
>dude stopped here from getting ded
Welp, better evacuate the whole town.
>season 2
>set in a different town or a different dimension
>main characters are still Max/Chloe
>story is 100% different
>different circumstances and powers this time Chloe has powers and players play the point of view of Chloe
Would you play it? Would still be LIS but does not take place in Arcadia Bay, has nothing to do with the first LIS. Only thing that is the same is that the main characters happen to be Max and Chloe again.
>>122513743
>game's goal is saving Max
Need you even ask?
>>122513743
I thought about that idea. Having the same characters, but in different eras and settings.
Keep some things constant, like Max and Chloe being friends/ more, but change others.
>>122513349
4. like five people die and everyone else who was not a complete retard and found a shelter survives like in any fucking tornado.
>>122513820
>except Max will be the one all punked out and rebellious
>shes still super cute though
>Chloe will be the shy blonde virgin
>>122513887
They could save money on character models this way.
>>122514040
Gotta conserve muh budget.
>>122513743
>main characters are still Max/Chloe
That's enough for me
>>122513887
>>122514040
>The ending is still a binary choice that has fuck all to do with the rest of the story.
Would you?
>>122505380
Wut? It's only not on that map because it is made up of locations visited by a few key characters from David's files. Of course the hospital is supposed to be in Arcadia Bay.
>season 2
>set in the early 20th century, and the Spanish flu is rampant in England
>main character is a high-ranking military surgeon, who is also a vampire coming back to help the inhabitants with their needs
>he will also need to feed, and all characters in the game are potential victims of his “vampiric lust.”
Would you play it?:)
>>122514193
NOT LIKE THEY WOULD FUCKING TELL US THAT, OH NO
THEYD PROMISE US THE EARTH AND WED BELIEVE THEM JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME
>>122513929
KEK NO IT WAS A LE MAGIC TORNADO THAT KILLED EVERYONE BECAUSE WE SAID SO THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE RIGHT? HAHA
HAHA SOME ANIMALS WERE GENOCIDED AND SOME LIVED JUST FINE LOL NO EXPLANATION JUST IMAGINATION :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)))))))))))))))))
>>122514248
No? The legend says which are according to in game map and which are according to coordinates.
The hospital is not on the in-game map.
>>122514193
that's tough, overall i'm gonna remember LiS more for the good memories of the first episodes than the horrible ending, but getting blue-balled like that again, i don't know
>>122514345
I dunno how I feel about this.
>>122513743
Honestly, no. I'd personally prefer to switch the protagonist over to one of the supporting cast members (possibly switching between them). Seeing things through Nathan's warped perspective would be interesting.
>>122514094
Same. I'd be willing to give anything with Max and Chloe a chance. Hell, someone could write LiS books detailing what happens after the game and I would buy them.
But Dontnod/ SE probably wouldn't sign off on that, so I'll just stick to fanfics and hope they keep coming in the foreseeable future.
>>122514543
What is this "in-game map"?
>>122514779
I'm just memeing.
>>122505380
There are two big... somethings on the map that aren't in the town. One of them might be the hospital.
>>122514850
As the name suggests it's the map in game
>>122514906
>Aurora Creek
wot
1 is probably Blackwell?
>>122514946
While you'd expect a hospital to be marked as a major facility, it could just not be. Or it's located off the map.
Do we receive any messages while we are in the hospital, or is there a clock on a wall? I know the devs are known to not pay to much attention there, but using those we could try and estimate how long it took Max and Chloe to drive there.
>>122515263
>wot
Don't ask me, m8. It's from the game files.
>>122508687
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4387484?view_adult=true
“Gucci.” She says.
You pause.
“Sorry, what?”
She makes a whine of frustration.
“Don’t be so fucking dense, Caulfield. If I say ‘Gucci’, then stop choking me. Otherwise, don’t fucking stop.”
>>122515263
>1 is probably Blackwell?
Got the orientation wrong. Comparing the maps, 1 has to be something at sea.
>>122515263
>Aurora Creek
>wot
It's the early name they gave Arcadia Bay, just like how Rachel was called Jessie(?) to begin with
>>122514543
But the in-game map misses other locations as well (the cemetery, which seemingly replaced the hospital ending). The hospital is obviously in AB, even if it's not directly marked on any of the maps.
>>122514906
2 is just the lumber mill.
It's hard to tell what 1 is supposed to be, given that this is an unwrapped texture. It might just be assigned to generic rocks on the beach, or some other nature texture like that.
>>122515263
Arcadia Bay was originally called Aurora Creek. Much the same way as Rachel Amber was originally called "Jessie". They changed a few names here and there, but there are hints of the old names in the game files.
>1 is probably Blackwell?
Blackwell is on the opposite side of the map, the empty clearing. Without going and checking, I presume the red building texture on the right is supposed to be the main building when the texture is wrapped to the model.
>>122515415
>Comparing the maps, 1 has to be something at sea.
Probably, but remember that it might just be UV mapped to some other part of the model.
>>122515263
Why would it be the only point of interest not on the map?
>>122515539
>The hospital is obviously
>obviously
No, quite on the contrary.
>But the in-game map misses other locations as well (the cemetery
Well the Cemetery wasn't supposed to be there when the map was made
>>122514345
No...
When you think about it does it really make sense for a tiny town like Arcadia Bay to have a hospital?
They don't even have a shopping mall.
>>122515805
Neither was the hospital, probably. Hell, even in the files it's still labelled "Beach" because it was a late addition to Ep4.
>>122514345
Unless Max is the Vampire then no I would not play it.
>>122515805
>No, quite on the contrary.
No, the contrary of the contrary. Max and Chloe just randomly drop in for a few minutes one morning between Chloe's house and Blackwell. It's in town.
>>122515965
>When you think about it does it really make sense for a tiny town like Arcadia Bay to have a hospital?
Most towns of reasonable size have some sort of medical facility, even if small. What we see of the hospital indicates that it's reasonably small. Given that we're talking about a town with a lot of reasonably hazardous industry (a port and a lumbermill), and given that the town is a little bit out of the way, it's pretty reasonable for it to have such a facility.
>>122516001
The hospital must have been planned to be featured regardless of Kate because on of the endings was supposed to involve a hospital though?
Plus didn't Michel try to weasel his way out of explaining the Max in hospital gown concept art saying that she was supposed to be put into hospital after the Dark Room in concepts or some shit?
Either way, hospital was always considered.
>>122514345
It reminds me of when I was 15 and liked twilight and thought it was the coolest thing ever that edward had spanish flu and vampire venom saved him or whatever
>>122516494
>The hospital must have been planned to be featured regardless of Kate because on of the endings was supposed to involve a hospital though?
But it's unlikely that it would have featured as a location on the in-game map given that it would have only been seen in the ending cinematic, after we lose the ability to even access the map. The cemetery is also not featured on the map, despite appearing in the ending.
>>122516294
>No, the contrary of the contrary. Max and Chloe just randomly drop in for a few minutes one morning between Chloe's house and Blackwell. It's in town.
No. It's not on the map and nowhere in game it's confirmed to be in Arcadia Bay. Thus you can't claim it's "obviously" there. All you have is your assumption. You don't even have time frames to support your time argument.
>>122516694
>But it's unlikely that it would have featured as a location on the in-game map given that it would have only been seen in the ending cinematic, after we lose the ability to even access the map.
>>122516494
>Plus didn't Michel try to weasel his way out of explaining the Max in hospital gown concept art saying that she was supposed to be put into hospital after the Dark Room in concepts or some shit?
>>122516294
Arcadia bay is not that small, fuck the town I'm living in is small.
>>122516494
>tfw we will never see the extent of Max's powers
Cuteposting time!
>>122517465
What was that? ;)
>>122516732
>You don't even have time frames to support your time argument.
Actually, we do.
Max wakes up on alt-Chloe's bed sometime around 8am (from the most recent text from Victoria). Then she bums around in the alternate timeline for a bit, talking to Chloe, William and Joyce. Then she jumps back. Then she talks to Chloe for a bit, then goes down and bums around in the house trying to get into David's files (this is longer if he's still there).
Then they go and visit Kate.
Then they arrive at Blackwell, during which they bum around in the dormitory courtyard for a bit talking to people. THEN they enter the dorms. Then Max gets a text from Kate, which indicates it's only 10:30am.
Yep, for all the stuff that happens between when Max wakes up (8am) and when they get into the boys dorms (10:30am), plus the travel time, the hospital IS obviously still in town. To add insult to injury, they always arrive at Blackwell at the same time (for obviously game design reasons), so there isn't just this random big chunk of time missing for when the girls may have skipped to the next town over to visit Kate. It makes sense that it's just a quick stop-over they made in town between locations.
It's in town. I don't even know why you're bothering to try to argue against something so obvious ...
>>122517465
YES, SIR!
I don't know why the hospital's location would be significant anyway. The idea behind the bae ending is that Max doesn't care who dies and who doesn't, that she only cares that Chloe lives. For Kate specifically Max is comfortable with her staying dead (if she jumped) by making the decision not to go back, after all.
>>122518220
I think it's wrong to say she doesn't care about anyone else. It's just that at that moment she has the possibility to save Chloe from guaranteed death so she secures it.
She obviously feels bad about those who didn't survive, if she didn't care she wouldn't have looked sad.
>>122516732
You both are arguing points that you can't prove.
As for the time frame, here.
>>122513887
Constants and variables. There are always 2 lesbians and there is always a lighthouse.
>>122518041
2.5h. Really.
i thought you wanted to support your argument not give it even less credibility.
8:00-9:00 - time from waking up to leaving house
9:00-9:30 - ride to hospital
9:30:10:00 - visiting Kate
10:00-10:30 - ride back and arriving at Blackwell
2.5h is plenty of time.
>>122518220
LETS NOT GO IN THIS DIRECTION AGAIN
THERE IS NO MERIT TO THE ENDINGS
NO LOGIC
THEY DID NOT THINK ABOUT ANY OF THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT
THERE ARE NO ARGUMENTS TO BE HAD
NOTHING IS TRUE EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED JUST USE YOUR LE IMAGINATION :)))))))))))))))))))) WHILE VIEWING THE EPIC EPIC ENDINGS ALL TWO (2) OF THEM, COUNT EM, MORE THAN ONE, WHAT A CRAZY ADVENTURE GAME WHERE YOUR CHOICES REALLY MATTER
stop arguing cunts
>>122515391
>pregnant pause
Oh for fuck's sake…
By the way, what happens instead of the hospital scene if Max is a shitty friend and lets Kate jump?
>>122518657
>NOTHING IS TRUE EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED
>>122518835
What do you think happens, dumbass?
>>122518678
It wasn't like they were joking, smiling, making out in despite of the carnage or anything like that. Max looked absolutely miserable, and was gazing at the damage, until Chloe did something to remind her that they were there and together. It's not Max ignoring everything else, it's finding something positive in a tragedy.
I really liked the facial expressions during that scene, I just wish it went on longer and gave more closure.
>>122518835
nothing happens
>>122518889Max kills herself out of guilt.
The game ends.
>>122518835
Nothing. The story is virtually the same minus the hospital scene.
>>122518835
look it up
>>122518835
This happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymPpIzaanhY
I'm at least glad that episode five proved that letting Kate die was the canon choice.
Kindly reminder :^)
>>122518431
Yeah, I'm not saying she doesn't care about others as in she doesn't feel bad, but that she doesn't care enough about any of them (who specifically lives/dies) as much as she does about Chloe. And again, if Kate jumps her death is guaranteed as well and Max could save her. And we know the Diner explodes, so Joyce, Warren, Frank (if you didn't let him die beforehand already) as well as the fisherman die as well. So same for them I guess.
Max doesn't even so much as ask Chloe how the week went (Nathan and Victoria could still have died) or look for survivors in the end. I at least get a strong "don't care" vibe.
>>122519139
Don't you mean the opposite?
>>122518984
>implying Max would feel genuinely guilty over some viral slut dying enough to follow her off the roof
Autists aren't like that.
>>122519245
>Warren
actually Warren probably doesn't as he has no reason to go out and look for Max in endtimeline.
>>122519267
No, I mean that episode five proved that letting Kate die was the canon choice.
Play that scene with a save where Kate isn't alive, you'll see.
>>122515263
>Do we receive any messages while we are in the hospital, or is there a clock on a wall?
There are several clocks, but they contradict each other.
>>122519403
That's a save where Kate isn't alive. Are you in denial or something Kate hater?
>>122519465
The entire scene and compare, dumbass.
Are you in denial or something, autismo?
>>122519139
No it didn't.
>>122518431
>>122518959
>>122519267
>Implying Max ever gave a damn about Kate
>>122519582
It did.
>>122519245
There's too many unknowns to guess accurately what happened. Max rejoined the timeline during the storm after she prevented Chloe from going to the Vortex Club party. In that timeline she could have told Joyce not to go to the diner that night, or other people to get out of town, but she wouldn't remember it because it would have been before her consciousness caught up to the present. David also knew about the Dark Room, so he could have brought Joyce and others to it for safety.
I'm not saying people didn't die, because some obviously did, but there's potential for those close to Max and Chloe to survive.
Plus, it's possible that Max and Chloe left Arcadia Bay after looking for people. I don't think they would have just driven away immediately after the storm. The road would likely be blocked and they wouldn't have been nearly as calm as they were. No way Chloe would be smiling like that if she thought her mother was dead (And driving by the building where she would have been).
So that leads me to believe that either the diner was empty, or that they already looked and had their answer that people either survived inside/ evacuated to another location.
>>122519665
Nope.
>>122519554
>>122519624
>Kate, I was only trying to save you
Oh yea I'm sure she couldn't give half a damn
>>122519705
Yep.
>>122519698
No mate. They all died, no survivors, the magical tornado was just too strong. Only deer could make it out alive. Max and Chloe are genocidal sociopaths and didn't care for anyone. The End.
>>122519415
Haha, thanks anyway. I guess we have >>122518041.
>>122519750
I'm not saying she didn't care, I'm saying it was the more canon choice.
If anything, that line only further proves my point, as does the entire scene.
>>122519140
This is Max's grand crime that apparently caused a storm and demanded that she be punished.
She acted selflessly to save a girl that she didn't even realize she knew and the universe/ God figured that was enough to traumatize her for life. She, unwillingly, gained the ability to prevent that moment and then went through Hell just to learn that she shouldn't have intervened in the first place. Which, again, she did unwillingly.
The universe is fucked up.
>>122519798
Nah.
>>122520029
Yeah.
>>122519698
Everyone else died and the duo left it all behind to pursue a happy life together. The end.
The choice is SACRIFICE Arcadia Bay. Not let a couple of buildings get demolished while everyone hides in the conveniently placed network of bunkers that have had no foreshadowing beyond a tiny one-off reference.
>>122519935
So you think you have a point because it's easier to write a believable guilt trip when someone died?
>>122519750
Well, to be fair, if Max cared half as much about Kate as she cares for Chloe, she would have at least considered going back in time to try and save Kate after she learnt she can time jump through photos.
I always thought it was kinda weird that Max never even entertains that thought, considering Kate's suicide happened only 2 days before she gets that ability.
>>122520190
No, I think I have a point because there is much more evidence proving this than there is not.
Turn off the delusional waifushitting autism in your head and play the game again where Kate is dead.
>>122520072
Nein.
>>122520334
Cunt.
>>122520093
>The choice is SACRIFICE Arcadia Bay.I think I've already argued this point before. We're going in circles, aren't we.
"Sacrificing" doesn't always mean letting everybody die. Max has a choice between helping Chloe and helping people in AB. Whoever she chooses, she sacrifices the other side, letting them fend for themselves. She doesn't kill every single living being personally.
>>122520327
Are you that retard that argued with everyone Kate dying is the canon route sometime back in August and couldn't provide any arguments as to why but just called everyone autists and told them to play the game?
>>122520093
Even if it was only mentioned once, it still remains canon that there were bunkers. Plus, residents had four hours before the storm made landfall to either find somewhere to hide or to flee. Anyone who was still in the town, after watching the storm creep closer and closer, is responsible for whatever happened to them.
Not Max. And while we knew what the outcomes of the choices would be, Max did not and she would have had little reason to think messing with time again would cancel a storm that she assumed was caused by messing with time.
>>122520093
>The choice is SACRIFICE Arcadia Bay.
Exactly Arcadia Bay. Not Citizens of Arcadia Bay. So yes it's basically to get a couple of buildings get demolished. The End.
>>122520093
Well, then Dontnod should have chosen a different kind of disaster. A tornado simply can't purge an entire town of all life. It's physically not possible. We can suspend our disbelief for a lot of bullshit considering this is a time travel story, but a tornado is still a fucking tornado, no matter how strong it is.
>>122520498
THE
WRITERS
HAD
NO
FUCKING
CLUE
THERES NO POINT TO FUCKING ARGUING ABOUT IT, GOD DAMN WHY YOU GOT TO MAKE ME HIT THAT FUKKEN CAPS LOCK AGAIN
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS
DO NOT JUSTIFY THE FUCKING ENDINGS BY ARGUING THAT THERE WAS ANY SORT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THE TWO OPTIONS. THEY ARE TRASH AND DESERVE TO BE PUT RIGHT THERE IN THE BIN WHERE THEY BELONG
>>122520507
I have my arguments, but waifushitters are apparently too retarded to understand. You'd think the blatant evidence in episode five would shove it down your throats enough, but apparently not.
>>122520093
In that case, the people of Arcadia Bay are doomed anyway. Oregon gets a tornado every couple of years. If you are saying that it's literally not possible for them to avoid death and seek shelter in the event of a coming tornado, then they're all destined to die next time a natural tornado hits the town.
>>122520807
Funny because you keep sounding like you are retarded for the past 3 months instead.
>>122520807
>blatant evidence
How about you show it to us? I don't see any.
>>122519698
And these are unknowns to Max at the time of her decision as well. She doesn't seem to care and comes to a decision despite any of it (even despite certain knowledge that people are dead/will most likely die).
And I never really got the argument that they may have looked for survivors. Looking for survivors after something like that can take weeks and you need heavy machinery. And even if they peeked into the Diner the argument that she doesn't care/is willing to take that chance still stands - and then doesn't care about anyone beyond those couple of people after the fact either.
I see no room for any argument; there'd need to be ongoing rescue missions with police, ambulance and fire department involved for me to buy the idea that Max and Chloe really did something of value after the storm. And all that is secondary anyway, Max makes that choice only because she wants to keep Chloe alive, everything else she doesn't care about as much, including the guaranteed and likely death of people close to her, not to mention that of potentially a considerable amount of strangers.
>>122520509
If they're still in the town then it's pretty safe to assume they can't get out. Max is the only person there who has the convenience of rewind powers to navigate the place safely.
It is not canon that there are a whole bunch of easily accessible bunkers that everyone can just conveniently waltz into. We have no context for the bunkers beyond some existing (in unspecified locations) at least 50 years ago. Not one person ever mentions them, suggesting that most Arcadia residents don't know about them or that they ceased being in active use a long time ago.
>>122521064
Funny because you also keep sounding like you are retarded for the past 3 months instead.
>>122521081
Refer to >>122520327
>Turn off the delusional waifushitting autism in your head and play the game again where Kate is dead.
>>122521278
>There is much more evidence proving this
Okay so where is the evidence?
>>122519698
We know Joyce is still in the diner in the end because Chloe says she is. If they had been looking for survivors they would be occupied helping them, not driving off.
>>122478473
This is also what boggles my mind and I thought about this a lot.
The theme of the game was butterfly effect and how even subtles changes can have a big impact.
There is literally no way Max's continuous existence and the experience of that week won't alter the fate's of people around her with or without her knowing.
It will never be like it was originally supposed to be had she not discovered the rewind powers, so if Chloe's survival summoned a tornado then I guess Max's existence will keep causing tornadoes for as long as she lives.
>>122521369
In the game.
>>122521432
And where in the game is the evidence? Meanwhile, Kate posting anyone?
>>122518562
>8:00-9:00 - time from waking up to leaving house
This is fine. Maybe a bit early, given that Warren's texts shown in >>122518448 occur before any of the David Madsen stuff happens, but 9am leaving time is reasonable.
>9:00-9:30 - ride to hospital
>9:30:10:00 - visiting Kate
>10:00-10:30 - ride back and arriving at Blackwell
Except you missed out the courtyard scene, which is the busiest of the episode so far. So even if I were to grant you that the girls would just randomly pull an hour round-trip on a whim like that - and still arrive at their eventual destination at roughly the same time - your timing still doesn't make sense. You'd have to reduce your travel times to more like ~15mins each, which becomes too long for travel to some neighbouring town, given what we're told about Arcadia Bay being kinda in the middle of nowhere.
Seriously, this discussion is absurd. Of course the hospital is supposed to be in the town. There is no good reason to assume it's not.
>>122521432
Nope, the game proves you are full of shit and rekt for the end of eternity.
>>122521564
Stop taking the bait, goddammit. He isn't going to show you any evidence.
K8fags are literally idiots.
>>122521564
The evidence is in the game in the scenes where there is dialogue about Kate. I recommend playing it!
>>122521393
Max probably won't use her powers again after the ending.
>>122520640
Oh for fuck's sake. It IS a magic tornado. That's an indisputable fact. It came into existence as a result of supernatural meddling with time and was preceded by animals magically dying and impossible phenomena like an unscheduled eclipse and the appearance of a second moon. Assuming that it operates according to regular tornado principles is just daft.
>>122521674
>Assuming that it operates according to regular tornado principles is just daft.
Well, it does. It works like a regular tornado, it destroys buildings like a regular tornado, it doesn't spew out flaming meteors or lightning bolts.
>>122521169
Well it will obviously require FEMA, Natl. Gaurd, etc. to fully repair the damage and find survivors.
While Max and Chloe couldn't personally do much, I believe they at least looked in some places where people they would know would be or got messages that people they knew ere safe. And if not immediately after the storm, then a few days after when phone service is restored.
I firmly believe that neither of the two would be so calm if they knew Joyce was dead. The Diner looked fairly intact, not like it exploded in that timeline. As established by the game, the smallest changes can have profound effects. One different action in the lives of anyone could have prevented the explosion.
>>122521638
Actually, the game proves you are full of shit and rekt for the end of eternity.
>>122521669
That's not the point. Max as of the bay ending will be behaving completely differently from a Max who just watched Chloe die in the bathroom without going on a time travel adventure. Odds are she'll eventually throw the predetermined timeline off the rails and start the storm all over again, simply by doing something the original Max wouldn't.
>>122521656
I'm just taking the opportunity to Katepost to be honest
>>122521661
And where in the game is the evidence?
>>122521596
>Except you missed out the courtyard scene, which is the busiest of the episode so far.
You mean them talking to Jefferson and going inside the dorm which takes maybe like 2 minutes?
>Seriously, this discussion is absurd.
The only absurd thing is your unwillingness to admit that your claim that has no support in canon material at all could possibly not be true.
>>122521854
>One different action in the lives of anyone could have prevented the explosion.
Max telling Chloe "HEY BY THE WAY THE DINER IS GOING TO EXPLODE TOMORROW" during the parking lot focus could have prevented the explosion.
It's obvious that her autopilot version and Chloe were at the beach for quite a while by the time she regained control over her body.
>>122521784
Well, it throws entire freight trains around hours before it hits land. And when it does hit land we see it lift buildings off the ground. But then, when it dissipates, it only seems to have caused minor damage when compared to what it should have, buildings structurally in-tact and all. Sounds magic to me. :v)
>>122521919
In the scenes where there is dialogue about Kate.
I'm sorry Katefags are so autistic like you that they can't even recognize obvious character development and proper storytelling. You really are the joke of the fanbase.
>>122522030
>Sounds magic to me.
Sounds like dumb writing and "m-muh budget cuts" to me.
>>122522075
And which scenes are they?
>>122522198
The scenes in the game where there is dialogue about Kate.
>>122522030
If they wanted to show us TOTAL DESTRUCTION then they easily could have. The resources already existed from the Junkyard scene to show mangled cars, structural components, etc. But they didn't. They showed us some buildings heavily damaged and others not so much.
>>122521674
>Oh for fuck's sake. It IS a magic tornado. That's an indisputable fact.
>fact
I don't think you know what that word means.
>>122522316
Those scenes prove Kate surviving was the canon end though.
Checkmate.
>>122522316
And which scenes specifically are they? All I see is >>122519267
I guess my evidence shows I'm right since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime
>>122522524
Those scenes prove Kate dying was the canon choice though.
Checkmate.
>>122522534
The beginning of episode 3, most dialogue between Max and Victoria, a majority of inner monologue through out the game about Kate, the entire episode 5 nightmare scene.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122522737
Yeah? How about providing screenshots. I'm the only one providing any here.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122521854
>I firmly believe that neither of the two would be so calm if they knew Joyce was dead.
The prospect of punk hipster lesbian adventures in Portland is remarkably uplifting.
>>122522737
>The beginning of episode 3, most dialogue between Max and Victoria, a majority of inner monologue through out the game about Kate, the entire episode 5 nightmare scene.
All these scenes show beyond any kind of doubt that saving Kate was canon. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122522830
I'm not going to waste my time digging for screenshots just so a waifutard can look at it and force themselves into further denial. Look it up on YouTube. I'm the only one truly providing some reasonable answers.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122522969
>reasonable answers
Answers out of your ass are not reasonable answers. You still have zero evidence to back yourself up while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122522912
What makes you think that?
Maybe you should try playing the game sometime.
>>122522910
Except the have at most $5,000. While it may make for a nice weekend, they're not going to survive on that forever. The most likely destination to me seems to be Seattle, specifically Max's parents house. Max can see her parents and Chloe can wait to hear more news on Arcadia Bay and learn the fate of her own family.
Once they have their answers, more money, and had some time to reflect on everything, then they can start their roadtrip adventures.
even then though, both Max and Chloe will probably have some times where they feel like they're going to freak or have nightmares.
>>122521854
But this is just headcanoning for the sake of coming to terms with an ending. Like people said before, it's just cheating at that point. The choice is to at least be willing to sacrifize everyone - arguing that maybe some change somehow lead to something and that saved everyone goes against the nature of the decision.Then I could go and say Chloe survived the gut shot and faked her death so as to elope with Max - Max's smile and the butterfly not being a spirit like the doe being proof that Chloe is still alive...And that's just for us as players, my initial argument is that Max doesn't think about any of that. She doesn't ask or contemtplate, she just says "you are my top priority" and saves her despite certain knowledge that this means Kate and Frank are dead (in a respective playthrough), Victoria and Nathan may be, Joyce, Warren and the people she saw die in town are very likely to die etc. - even if she was somehow convincing herself that everybody will somehow survive because duh bunkers and duh everybody can save themselves from tornadoes that throw trains around hours before they hit land - she would still at the very least be taking the risk of them dying anyway.
And that's what the decision is inherently about for her. Either Chloe is more important than anything at all - or she isn't. With players justifying their choice by creating some in-between I get a bad taste but can at least understand some of the arguments why the ending ultimately might not mean "everybody died". But Max herself makes that decision in a manner where "everybody may as well die, whatever, I have to save Chloe". That's the reality of her decision as I see it.
>>122523091
The obvious answers that lie within the game when you actually play it. Maybe you should try it sometime.
>>122523057
>You still have zero evidence to back yourself up while I do.
"Evidence" out of your ass is not real evidence. You still have zero evidence to back yourself up while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122522008
>You mean them talking to Jefferson and going inside the dorm which takes maybe like 2 minutes?
No, the courtyard scene which includes talking to like a half-dozen different people (Jefferson/Chloe, Daniel, Brooke, Ms Grant, Samuel), participating in a number of different activities (looking at the new stuff in the scene, flying Brooke's drone, optional photographs). Like I said, this is the busiest scene in the episode so far, so ignoring it entirely is pretty dishonest. It should be given AT LEAST another 30 mins going by your previous time estimates.
>The only absurd thing is your unwillingness to admit that your claim that has no support in canon material at all could possibly not be true.
What unwillingness? So far everything points to my argument being true. I have no issues with changing my mind on this issue if you can actually bring something more concrete to the table, but as it stands, the answer is still clear - the hospital is somewhere within Arcadia Bay. :)
>>122523225
>"Evidence" out of your ass is not real evidence.
Except the evidence was a screenshot from the game.
You still have zero evidence to back yourself up while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122523203
>The obvious answers that lie within the game when you actually play it. Maybe you should try it sometime.
Yes, that's correct. The obvious answer being that Kate dying is the most canon choice. Good job!
>>122523323
Except your evidence just proved my point.
You still have zero evidence to back yourself up, while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122523192
>Like people said before, it's just cheating at that point. The choice is to at least be willing to sacrifize everyone
Nah, it's not cheating. it's logic. Only bayfags justifying the ending to themselves call it cheating.
Everyone dying goes against any kind of common sense, experience, statistic and it's just plain impossible.
Yes, the choice was between willingness to sacrifice. The risk that people may die.
Doesn't mean everyone died. That's just retarded.
>>122523462
And how does my evidence prove your point when Max specifically said she wanted to save Kate? >>122519267
You still have zero evidence to back yourself up, while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>kateautist arguing with himself
Does it get any more pathetic than this
>>122523603
It's called character development and better storytelling. Look it up.
You still have zero evidence to back yourself up, while I do.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right, since you have none at all. Try playing the game sometime.
>>122523578
Well, "everybody died" is not my argument at all, and I'd agree that's a retarded position to take.
>>122523737
>called character development
Yeah, it shows that Max is a kind soul and her intention was to safe Kate as per my screenshot >>122519267
I guess my evidence shows I'm right.
>>122523192
I can agree that the choice is about if Max feels that Chloe living is worth risking the lives of many more. Or if one life is not worth so much destruction.
But I cannot agree with the idea that everyone Max knew in the town is dead because it flies in the face of logic.
>>122523171
>TFW have yet to see tearjerker cuteposting involving Chloe comforting Max after having PTSD nightmares post bae ending
>>122523192
As far as I'm concerned everyone else is dead and gone in the bae ending. I refuse to waste my time dreaming up wish-fulfilment scenarios where everyone magically survived because Arcadia Bay just happens to have a bajillion nuclear bunkers lying around. Polarized was a miserable mean-spirited shitfest and I don't believe for even a minute that something so nihilistic and fixated on death would allow anyone else to survive.
Like you say I could just as easily pretend that Chloe survived and went to the hospital while some other beloved Arcadia Bay resident died and had a funeral. I'm not going to because the endings are still fucking awful and treat Polarized and babby's first theory as canonical.
>>122523995
Yeah, it shows that Max was more intelligently written with real human emotions of regret rather than "le everything is okay xD" fairytale writing as per your screenshot.
I guess your evidence shows I'm right.
>>122524046
A bunch of fics have stuff like that. I cannot remember any specific titles though.
There was one pretty intense one that comes to mind is where Max was in the bathroom looking in a mirror, and started seeing people she knew speaking to her about how she killed them. Eventually Jefferson appears and says she was a worse murderer than him and Max snaps, punches the mirror, then collapses on the floor sobbing and muttering that she was sorry. Chloe walks in and finds her like this.
>>122523247
>No, the courtyard scene which includes talking to like a half-dozen different people (Jefferson/Chloe, Daniel, Brooke, Ms Grant, Samuel), participating in a number of different activities (looking at the new stuff in the scene, flying Brooke's drone, optional photographs). Like I said, this is the busiest scene in the episode so far, so ignoring it entirely is pretty dishonest. It should be given AT LEAST another 30 mins going by your previous time estimates.
I was waiting for you to make this argument.
But nope, I'm sorry but unfortunately additional tasks don't count in forwarding canon time.
In EP1 you can skip the entire courtyard scene, rush to the dorms, only do the required interactions there, grab the flash and run to the parking lot.
You can also talk to everyone in the courtyard, explore every possible dialogue, arrive in dorms, carefully inspect Max's room, lie on the bed for an hour, play the guitar for the next hour, then go out, deal with Juliet's drama, explore Victoria's room, talk with Dana, explore Dana's room, go to the parking lot, explore the parking lot, look at every car, stand another hour 2 meters from Warren hearing him desperately calling out to you, and only finally talk to him 3 hours later.
And guess what? In both cases the time of all events stays the same.
>So far everything points to my argument being true.
Literally nothing does. It's not even on the fucking map. It's not stated anywhere in game. There was plenty of time to go there even going by the text messages even if you assume it's 0.5h from the town. All you have is your ridiculous assumption that it's there because??? Because. Cool story bro. At best you can say the location is unconfirmed but that you believe it's within the town and the devs just forgot to establish that.
>>122523578
Yeah, because it's not like the finale had anything else that went against common sense and logic.
>>122524183
I spent my entire childhood being obsessed with tornadoes. With the level of damage shown in the bae ending, it's absolutely ridiculous to think there was a high mortality rate.
>>122524183
>I refuse to waste my time dreaming up wish-fulfilment scenarios where everyone magically survived
Instead you waste your time dreaming up scenarios where everyone magically died.
>Like you say I could just as easily pretend that Chloe survived and went to the hospital
Except you go to her funeral. You don't go to anyone else's funeral or get any kind of suggestion they died.
>>122524251
>real human emotions
Yeah like trying to save her good friend.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right.
>>122524035
Yeah, I don't know if people actually make a case for "literally every single Arcadia Bay citizen died", I was primarily highlighting the certaind and highly likely deaths that Max does know about (and others she at least doesn't even bother to find out about beforehand or afterwards).
>>122524183
I wouldn't say everyone else, and you don't have to assume that for the symbolical meaning of the decision either. For that the willingness to have everyone die instead of Chloe is what counts. And I mean, there's a whole world between everyone and nobody, but even IF everyone had survived, Max would still have made a choice that had potentially everyone dying, it just so happened that they then wouldn't have.
Normally I don't go into arguing endings either, because I agree that the whole setup conceptionally and the execution have been very disappointing. My main gripe is that neither ending is really "bittersweet", both seem just bitter and hopeless to me.
>>122524624
Yes, the regret of failing to save her good friend.
I guess my evidence shows I'm right.
>>122524624
>good friend
The friend she got over in a matter of hours, after which she spent the night having fun in the pool?
>>122524370
>I was waiting for you to make this argument.
And yet, you didn't feel the need to address it when it was relevant. Interesting debating style.
>But nope, I'm sorry but unfortunately additional tasks don't count in forwarding canon time.
So your hard-hitting rebuttal is to stick your fingers in your ears and repeat "no no no I'm not listening no no no none of this huge scene matters no no no".
Great.
Sorry, the scene obviously counts. Feel free to do some finagling of the timeline to make it count as little as possible, but you can't ignore it completely. I was being fairly generous when I timed it at ~30 mins previously.
That you need to act so dishonestly to try to salvage your point just strengthens mine. The first rule for getting yourself out a hole, my friend, is to stop digging. :)
>>122521674
It came into existence because of Max's time fuckery, but never did the game establish the tornado had special, magical destructive powers. If that was the case, they absolutely NEEDED to show that destruction in the bae ending, which they didn't.
You really sound like you are a bit stupid or something.
>>122524812
I don't get why so many people make a huge deal about the swimming pool.
What else was she supposed to do? Sulk in her room for some predesignated mourning period?
In both outcomes, where Kate lives or dies, Max can do nothing more to help her.
Sometimes after seeing something fucked up the only thing you can do is something to take your mind off it.
Plus, she used that time with Chloe in the school to try to find answers regarding Kate and Rachel. So she didn't just completely forget about her.
Did this game have a greater meaning?
Was there supposed to be some moral of the story?
>>122524898
>So your hard-hitting rebuttal is to stick your fingers in your ears and repeat "no no no I'm not listening no no no none of this huge scene matters no no no".
No, my rebuttal is that you tried using an optional scene/conversations to say the timeline between events changes based on that. And it doesn't. Did you even try reading my post? It doesn't matter what you do and for how long. In this case this is an optional hub you can skip entirely. It's not mandatory and has no effect on the in game time.
>The first rule for getting yourself out a hole, my friend, is to stop digging. :)
Great so are you finally ready to admit you are full of shit and have no facts to suport your claim except for "b-but muh optional conversations surely prolong the timeline!"? :)
holy shit this thread turned into shit real fast
hurry up and hit the fucking bump limit already
h-hey is it that time again...
>>122525721
Cuteposting all night long.
>>122525453
Enjoyable thread tbph.
>>122525780
C U T E P O S T I N G
COMMENCE
>>122525453
Make a bet, bump limit, or image limit?
>>122525294
Bay ending:
>You made choices based on what felt right and decided you can't accept the unforseen consequences. Let's relinquish responsibility for them and live a life of fear
Bae ending:
>Well shit, those choices you made in the past had unforseen consequences. But you know what? Looking back you're glad you made those choices because it defines you as a person. I'm not about to throw that all away because I'm unsatisfied with how everything turned out, and certainly not going to give up my dearest loved one in the process.
>>122525813
kill yourself
>>122525913
Cuteposting always occurs!
>>122525913
Kind of creepy looking. But I would like to see more of them as kids.
It's painful to see what losing her father and friend did to Chloe. But at the same time, it's better than the alternative we know will exist if William lives.
>>122525941
Image limit, again.
>>122526003
So no, not really?
>>122525327
>It's not mandatory and has no effect on the in game time.
Like I said, you can feel free to finagling the timeline so the scene counts as little as possible. But it's patently dishonest to ignore it entirely.
Hell, even if I were to grant you that we should ignore all optional content without assuming they contribute some reasonable amount of time to the story (because fuck exploration in a game based on exploration, amirite?), your argument doesn't even make sense for that one scene. Because once Max and Chloe finish talking to Jefferson, Chloe says she's going to go and talk to Justin to try to get some dirt from him. It literally makes zero sense for Max to then run directly for the dormitory door to progress the scene. Canonically, Max and Chloe spend some time bumming about in the courtyard with these other people. That the conversations and such are optional doesn't mean you can just dishonestly ignore the scene.
Owned. :)
>>122525025
This was a story where animals spontaneously died with no explanation whatsoever and you find it inconceivable that another phenomenon could cause abnormal death and destruction?
>>122526202
Well, I guess I'll have to shitpost up to 20 more posts quickly...
>>122526121
I found it really cute...I like anything about them as kids; really wish that could have been explored more. I bet they already liked each other back then, but weren't aware of/couldn't identify what it was exactly. Also adds to my heartbreak when I think about how much Chloe has changed from then.
Did this game make anyone else feel nostalgia for experiences they never had?
>>122525063
>So she didn't just completely forget about her.
No but she hardly treated Kate's death any differently from Kate's potential survival. Max has known Kate for a few weeks at the most. They're really not that close.
>>122525721
fuck no
Why did Chloe get so butthurt about Max not calling, when she never called either?
>>122526285
They aren't even entirely optional. You have to talk to people (Ms. Grant?) in order to learn that Nathan left campus before you can progress the scene.
C-can't you guys settle it by having someone tweet dontnod again? Asking where the hospital is supposed to be located seems innocent enough.
>>122526496
Absolutely. I agree that they probably knew what they liked each other and didn't realize it until it they were apart. And Chloe went through a lot of crap, but underneath the ink and dye her younger self makes appearances.
How she speaks to Max about the last week being the happiest she's been, makes me think she's kept up her tough-girl facade for those five years and it's finally starting to crumble. She will obviously never be as happy and care-free as she once was, but she will find a balance.
>>122526613
>goodbye to my Santa Monica dream
>mfw completely unrelatable lyrics make me emo
what if the ayys caused the tornado
>>122526830
It fucking hurts. "In My Mind" seems like such a happy song, but I tear up every time I play it.
>>122526613
no because i'm not a friendless loser :^)
>>122526747
It was part of her defense. She felt like she had to blame someone otherwise it was her fault. She didn't want to feel even worse about herself so she deflected blame. Even though certain things could not be placed on her, Max, or anyone else.
>>122526990
Well said, friend. Nice post. :^)
>everyone prefers Chloe to Warren
ˢᵐʰ ᵗᵇʰ ᶠᵃᵐ
>>122527212
What the fuck are you implying, warrenfag?
NEW THREAD WHEN
>>122526804
But then you had to kill her and not the content happy Chloe, but the Chloe that is at the lowest point in her life. However my Max loved Warren so it was a choice between Chloe's happiness and Max's happiness.
NEW THREAD NOW
>>122527357
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>>122527212
Warrenshit pls go kate yourself
>>122526804
Definitely. Like you said, that younger Chloe is still very much there. To me, she always seemed like that 13 year old girl who just aged on the outside. Yeah, she did "adult" things like smoking/drugs/sex/getting tickets/etc, but those were just things to hide the fact that she's still stuck on that day when her dad died and she felt like she was left behind by the people she most cared about. I think that's one of the ways in which the game excelled in characterizing through the environment: the drawings she made with Max, the phone she decorated with Max, the box with photos of her with Max and William that's just lying there and without a cover -- they all really showed that point home rather than just saying it through dialogue.
>>122527425
>Warrekeks invading thread
Someone make a new thread and get us the fuck out of here.
>>122527281
>pretending not to like dank memes
embarrasing tbqh
>>122527291
What do you think I'm implying?
K
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>>122505786
>I bet you wish you could take shots like that.
Well, yes, she does wish she could.
