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Welcome to /shmupg/!

This general is for discussing all STG/SHMUP (shooting-type/shoot 'em up) games!

NEWS : Mushihimesama released on Steam! Buy this shit if you want to support future releases!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860/

Dariusburst: Chronicle Saviours will launch for PlayStation 4 and PS Vita on November 30, and PC via Steam on December 3!

http://dariusburstcs.degica.com

Old thread http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/122120489/
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Soo do we move on to this thread or what.
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>>122439157
Second for moving over.
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I guess since it's slow and we want to keep this one bumped, we could move.
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What's the best thing for remapping keys?
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Cross link next time.
>>122120489
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>>122439996
He did, it just ended up weird
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>>122439893
Joy2Key, Motion Joy and Lilypad are all good.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS RAIDEN V?
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>>122440173
Isn't it an XBONE exclusive?
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>>122439157
You move back here, if you think you can handle a real thread.

>>>/vr/2792825
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>>122440914
>less posts in three days than these ones per hour

Nah, I'm good. I prefer to move on with new releases instead of being stuck in 1999.
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PC bros, will games like Mushihimesama and/or Eschatos display portrait if i shift the orientation from my graphics card settings? I previously just used game settings and physically turned my monitor when i wanted to play, but i moved my setup around and have a permanent portrait monitor as a result. Would like to use it for browsing as well as shmupping
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>>122440730
Yeah, it'll probably show up on another platform though so I'm not worried.

It's supposed to be out this year though and they haven't even shown gameplay yet. fug.
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>>122441517
They have portrait built in by default. It's tate mode that's optional.
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>>122442281
That's what i mean. Brain on the fritz, working nights socks, etc
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>>122442598
I'm not following you here. The option us built into the game; you dom't need to dick with your graphics card.

By default, the game is in portrait mode, but if you have a mount, you can rotate your monitor and put the game in tate to play it classic arcade "tall" style.
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>>122442841
Eh, I'll mess around when I'm done with work.
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Is Don Paccin broken?
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>>122446493
I think you need to use a VPN to get past the 'are you a nip' pop up. I used qooapp to install it and still got cockblocked.
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Just played Gradius V for the first time in years and all I'm going to say is fuck stage 6.
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Can anyone rec some non-flight games like Gun.Smoke and Pocky & Rocky/Kiki Kaikai
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>>122451391
Out Zone
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>>122451517
>arcade only

Makes sense I've never heard of it then. I'll check it out thanks
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>>122440914
Nice shill, but your boards generals manage to be both slow and filled with shitposting.
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After I get my fill of Mushihimesama, assuming that the next Cave title isn't released on Steam by then, I'm thinking about trying the Gunbird series. I played Gunbird 2 in an arcade once but it's long since closed.
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>>122453810
Sadly the PC version of gunbird looks to be pretty bad with lack of features and poor localisation.
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>>122441252
You act like good shmups were made after 2000, unless you consider danmaku trash good.
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>>122456575
Because that's true.
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>>122456575
cave games desu
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Reminder not to respond to anyone whose only goal is to talk shit about something else without actually making a contributing statement about shmups they do like.
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This doesn't look good anymore
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>>122457521
Steamspy is unreliable, the number is going to go back up in a while
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>>122457521
I went back to 360
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>>122458460

Why though? 360 might not last forever
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>>122457521

I'm starting to have less hopes for all the ports, perhaps I should finish my 360 collection as best as I can
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>>122458958
Steam version was clearly rushed out, they fixed some of the problems after it was released but it's still not quite there yet, and these are all things that should have been sorted before it came out.
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>>122459659
like?
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What's the best NES emulator for shmupping? I wanna play Recca without it going to shit.
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>>122437934
Actually, to be totally honest I still prefer the stylux. Sure it might obscure bullets sometimes, but damm it gives me so much control over my ship, control pad feels stiff in comparison.
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this should be in op

https://www.mediafire.com/?48812jiax8m1c
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I was playing the touhou games yesterday, and I have to say that the trial and error bullshit which makes you loose almost no matter what if you don't know what to expect is making me furious.
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>>122465807
What touhou game were you playing?
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>>122466110
12
>stage 3 boss has some attacks that you don't don't expect
>stage 4 boss is exactly the same
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>>122466170
So you started at UFO? Kind of a weird place to start. I say you give the 6th game, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil a try, the spellcards there are a bit more straightforward and not as gimmicky. If you keep playing 12 you're gonna have one hell of a time with curved lasers later on.
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>>122464236

Nay, piracy.

Speaking of which, is there a game where I control a pirate flying ship?
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So I purchased the Irem bundle with "In The Hunt", but in the pc port the controls suck (you have to use analog stick). Do you know of a release that allows arcade stick? Do you know how to force digital input? It sucks because it has my favourite R-Type in it too (Leo).
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>>122466636
thanks, but I just wanted to play something visually nice and I find touhou 6 too not-challenging, but I'll play it again today

also are the 2hu games considered hard, should I feel happy about beating them on normal?
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>>122468970
>also are the 2hu games considered hard, should I feel happy about beating them on normal?
That depends on what you're comparing them to. They're not the easiest, but they're definitely no Truxton 2 or Ketsui Ura.
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>>122469220
I'm comparing them to the only game I 1cc'd and that's mushihimesama on original
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>>122469683
most of the difficulty in Touhou stems from lack of knowledge. Few people are aware how the cherry system works in 7. Or that ReimuC bomb in 11 is ridiculously strong.
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>>122469683
Most Touhou games are going to be easier to 1cc, especially if you're playing on normal.
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>>122472909
>>122472049
I'll just continue playing the newer ones on normal cause the older ones on normal are too easy but I suck to much to actually finish them on hard
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>>122473637
Easy doesn't necessarily mean bad, but if you're looking for hard then 11, 12 and 15 are the ones to try, though of those I only liked 11. Good luck with whatever you choose!
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>>122473748
thank you, I hope I wont encounter much more of the trial error bullshit
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>>122473637
you know... there is a higher difficulty than normal
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>>122473870
Doesn't the entire genre in general have trial and error though? Touhou especially however since there is basicly always a way to clear a part much more efficiently than just raw dodging, and this applies to every single one of them except 9, but 9 is literally just RNG Bullshit the game.

Anyway, just don't try out 15, you'll hate it.
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>>122474056
>but I suck too much to actually finish them on hard
I probably constructed the whole post weirdly, so sorry for that
>>122474339
>Doesn't the entire genre in general have trial and error though?
I wouldn't say so
I'm pretty new to the genre but so far I was playing the original dodonpachi, mushihimesama and blue wish ressurection +, in all these games I knew what I was supposed to do against each bosses attack, and when I failed it was mostly cause of my idiocy, but in for example touhou 11 with those green stationary bullets that follow you in stage 2 or 3, I'm not sure, you're just bound to die a few times before figuring out how to do it
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>>122474339
literally every shmup is about learning how to play it
>bullshit
I see who I am talking to here....
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>>122474574
Have you played touhou 9? it's a versus game where you basicly just have to outlast the opponent, it's RNG bullshit the game because the AI dodges the most impossible shit until it just randomly decides to run into a single bullet, it's not fun if your victory or loss is decided completely by RNG.

It's fun when playing with friends however.
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>>122474838
yes I have played it, the AI is based on a timer
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>>122474996
Only in extra mode is the AI based on a timer.
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>>122475561
no, they always are. The timer is not 100% set, but there is a ~30 second window in which they will always die (timing depends on rank and stage). One way to confirm this: if you don't shoot at all the timer doesn't start, so people that play for score stall stages for 1 minute by not doing anything at first and do not lose anything because the stage will also last 1 minute longer.
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So I was thinking, there isn't much difference between Cave 360 ports and the arcade games, would I be morally entitled to play the roms if I purchased either the 360 ports or pc ports?
Heck, I'd even say the 360 and pc ports have far more content.

I'm considering this currently, and it would open the door to me to a rom collection that I'd feel morally comfortable with, I could even build a vertical mamecab even.

I really don't see how it could be considered stealing, since I paid for a license of use already and each version is pretty similar with no notable differences in them save for a lack of content in the rom.
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>>122464236

Niiice, Samidare.
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>>122477276
Yes you can by steam port on christmas sale and then have moral entitlement to snatch a candy cab from game center.
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>>122477792
>on christmas sale

No, I already own the games, I'm not that kind of cheapass, kek.
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>>122477792

This anon thinks I want to acquire licenses for 99 cents and feel entitled to steal physical machines and that's not quite it.

I want to pay a fair ammount for legitimacy. So given that home versions are what Soft sellers consider a fair ammount in return for a license to use their games...
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WHY IS THIS THREAD ALMOST DEAD
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>>122480960
almost dead thread for an almost dead genre.
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>>122480960
>1 PM on a Monday

No idea ;^)
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>>122481314
I really doubt the traffic of this site is only american
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>>122481809
im european
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>>122481938
oh
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What are people's thoughts on the Raiden games on steam? And Raiden games in general?
inb4 Revengance jokes.
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>>122482194
Raiden is pretty cool yeah
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>>122482194
>Revengance
but he was in MSG
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>>122482194
The only one I really played was "The Raiden Project", which is really just Raiden II, on Playstation.

They're super straight forward. They don't have all kinds of complciated scoring mechanics or anything. Fairly bullet-hellish. I think they're basically training wheels for danmaku.
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>>122482408
When was Raiden in Mobile Suit Gundam?
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>>122482637
I have a much harder time with early raidens than bullet hells. The slow speed and the moderately fast bullets get me,also if you play with arcade settings using the checkpoints. The soundtracks for 2,3, and 4 are great.
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>>122483334
>also if you play with arcade settings using the checkpoints
Is there any way to remove that in mame? I enjoy what I can of the game, but checkpoints just destroy my motivation.
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>>122483653
No, since the arcade has that shit built in.

If you want no checkpoints, you'll have to use ePSXE/PCSX2 and emulate the ports of the Raiden games.
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>>122482194

They don't hold a candle to Raiden DX imo
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>>122483785
Crap.
Oh well, one kind of emulation for another.
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What's the most balls to the wall shmup? Thunderforce IV?
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>>122488456
Define balls to the wall. Difficult? Really fast? Really awesome? Cause I know Thunderforce lV checks out that last one.
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>>122490383
Fast, metal as fuck, explosions everywhere, really awesome.
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>>122490728
Yeah that sounds like Thunderforce alright.
https://youtu.be/oTQIiIKummw

I actually only know of Thunderforce from this song and that really popular remix. If they are anything to go by though, I really need to play those games.
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>>122490728
Space Invaders Infinity Gene gets pretty crazy.
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D:
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>>122494891
fucking casuals
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>>122494891

The game is unselling itself
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>look up the soundtrack for DDP DaiFukkatsu black label arrange
>Arranged by Jake "Virt" Kaufman
Literally what
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>>122490728
try Kamui. Everything blows up everywhere forever and you got THE FUCKING LIGHTNING.
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>>122494891

Let's accept the possible hard reality here.

Peoeple aren't playing shmups.
We aren't possibly getting the ports to pc.
It's very hard to find the 360 ports of some games nowadays and then you need a jap 360 for most.

Therefore we must shill more.
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>>122494891
>Cave cancels their future ports because of this
It's not like I'm upset or anything.
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>>122496696
BUT WHY WOULD 5K PEOPLE REFUND THE GAME
>anime bait
check
>bugs
check
>it's addictive
check
>good OST
check
>forgiving for beginners
check
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>>122494891
meanwhile Nep has like 200k
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>>122497101
We need to inject memes into Mushihimesama somehow.
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>>122497027
Steamspy isn't very accurate in the first few weeks of a games release, just give it some more time and it will go back up.
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>>122497287
let's hope so
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>>122497221
I'd inject my meme into Mushihimesama, if you catch my drift.
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Since it's a new thread, I'm just gonna plug this in one last time.

http://se-made.com/finalboss.html

https://youtu.be/ZE3qdbCAOrI
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>>122494891
What the fuck?! My ports are going to get cancelled.
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>>122497221
well, I mean, the people playing it could pretend like they're able to finish the game + true last boss
that would get them cool points on the internet, no?
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>>122490728
Ketsui
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>>122502717

It's no use, it's just that despite our shilling few people even look at the threads, so they don't know that the games even exist.
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So I'm playing DoDonPachi, and the third stage boss is giving me real problems. It takes so long to kill, and the bullet pattern always trips me up. Any advice?
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>>122503567
Shoot the cyberdemon until it dies.

Acquire bees.
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>>122502717
We need to push Mushi as the "Dark Souls" of shmups, it's a necessary evil.
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>>122505365

Could work, I just saw a thread of how cool was dark souls because it's not casual and it's so niche your balls chant jingle bells.
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>>122505365
But it's relatively easy and tame. And even then that plan would fail massively.
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>>122505720

But then we can mention the genre is the new dark souls and that this is the soft spot for beginners
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gib tips for crimzon clover
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>>122506828
uninstall
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>>122506828
Use Double Break to cruise through the hardest parts of stages with massive firepower. Plan your breaks even if you're not scoring - in the later stages you'll have serious trouble killing enemies if you're not using them for the power.
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>>122507190
why do you dislike it?

>>122507245
thanks, thats pretty much what i'm doing
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>>122507667
typical style over substance vert devoid of good stage design. 2hu with stars everywhere.
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Am I doing 1cc practice right (Dodonpachi)? if I lose a credit I just reset the game and start over again. I feel like I'm wasting my time if I play through a failed run. I'm also new to shmups
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>>122508258
>if I lose a credit

A credit or a life?
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>>122508258
I'd credit feed for a single clear to get to the end just so you know what to expect, and then start doing the >reset if lost credit
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>>122506828
Final boss (the giant, dribbling basketball, not the TLBs) is a bit easier on higher ranks, since the bullets will be moving faster and thus not cluttering the screen.

What shot are you using? I love Type III.
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>>122508448

A whole credit, all lives.

>>122508493

Seems like a good idea.
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>DDP1
>cool jets, lasers and shit
>maybe DDP2 will be good
>gay fantasy muscle men

The fuck is this?
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>>122466872
For some reason I want to say that Ruby from Giga Wing was a sky pirate? But she just has a plane.
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>>122509071
Type III as well.
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>>122508258
If I'm on a boss, I'll credit feed so I can practice the bosses patterns, and practice the next stage. Otherwise I'll restart.

That said it's best not to just keep on playing, as you'll just burn yourself out. Stop after a few runs and then try again later.
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Is it possible to do two player shmups with Hamachi or Kawaks or some kind of linkable emulator? Not dumb shit like Twin Sparkle Sprites, but like two player Raiden or some real niga shit.
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>>122508258
Unless you can reach 5th stage constantly, better start playing with 2 or 3 credits. Later stages is the best practice and you won't see progress any soon if you keep resetting the game before reaching them.
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Just got Mushihimesama, as far as I'm aware this is my first cave stg.

I'm confused about regular shot and full auto and when to use them. halp.
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>>122517415
Full auto is basically the same as pushing the regular fire button over and over and over again.

If you're playing Normal mode (rather than Arrange or 1.5) then full auto is nothing more than just a convenient button you can just hold down instead of having to mash regular shot.

However, if you hold down regular shot, your fire focuses and you move slower while holding the button down, which can help in dodging dense bullet patterns.
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>>122517415
Shoot shit. Is it big? Shoot that shit with focused shit. Are there a bunch of little fucks everywhere? Mash that spray shit.
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>>122518467
Focused shot seems to make enemy bullets slightly slower, or is it just in my head?
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>>122518821
If there's more stuff on screen (including your bullets), the game will intentionally limit the frame rate.
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>>122517415
Mashing regular shot or holding full auto do the same thing. Holding regular shot slows your movement down and focuses in your options. If you hold down full auto and mash regular shot, your shot becomes noticeably more powerful, which can be incredibly helpful during tough section. It seems like holding regular shot and tapping full auto also does something, but that one I'm not certain about.
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Holy fuck, FUCK Air Gallet.

I completely underestimated this game and now it is fucking my ass savagely.

>Stage 3 boss

F U C K

Y O U

FUCK

fffffffffffffffffffffff
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>>122521594
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>>122521843
New FMP anime soonish
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>>122521594
Don't use the shitty green Hunter laser. It does so little damage and it makes boss fights retarded.

Missiles > Blue Laser > Fire > Green Laser
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>>122522049
fumoffu?
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Does Cave have other games with gorgeous pastel colours like Progear and Mushihimesama?

Seriously why is Progear so pretty, it's kind of a downer game otherwise.

>>122522220
No, sounds like it picks up after The Second Raid
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>>122524212
Have a peak at some screenshots :

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/catalog/company-cave.htm

Frankly, I find Deathsmiles to be the closest to that style, but I don't think anything else qualifies.
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>>122524751
Maybe Espagaluda too
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I always wanted a thing called tuna sashimi
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Bed time, /shmupg/.

May your dreams be filled with many Options and POW.
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>>122533151
SPEED UP
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Is the mahou otome guide finished?

>>122494891
wait for sale
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Are there any good shmups for mobile? I'm not at home often so a mobile game would be nice.
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>>122534698
Nope, not yet. It's coming along, though. I've finished explanations and picture references for most of the menus, but I still have yet to write up explanations for the gameplay and mechanics, or explaining the different types of weekly events.

If you've got questions about anything in particular with the game, go ahead and call me out here to ask. I'm usually watching this thread silently.
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>>122535390
I'm still confused about events and ranking in general

So for now I was just clearing story mode
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>>122535506
Well basically, clearing stages will earn you "Active Points" which determine your rank on the weekly leaderboard (#10 in pic related). If you press the prizes button (#9 in pic related) you can see the prizes for that leaderboard. At the end of the event (the beginning and end dates for the event are also on the prizes screen), you'll get whatever prize is listed for your leaderboard rank range.

For example, in pic related, my rank is 10,460, so I'd get the prizes listed for 10001st through 20000th place.

>>122535350
I dunno what to recommend but I will say to stay far away from any of G-Gee's ports of Cave games on Android devices, and likely anything with G-Gee's name on it in general, because they don't keep them updated. I own Deathsmiles on Android and it hasn't worked in almost two years because they haven't maintained it after the Android system updates.
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>>122536402
Of course there's more to events than just this, but that's just the most basic part.
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>>122501628
I've been trying the Download link for like 12 hours now. It keeps killing the connection before finishing. I do want to try the game, but it won't let me
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>>122538583
I can upload it on mediafire if you want.
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>>122539319
I dunno how I feel about this piracy dude, those poor indie devs need my money more than Cave does.
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>>122540521
Haha it's funny because the game is free!

>>122539319
I appreciate it, but through some miracle, it finished. It's fun! I'd prefer TATE support, but I can live without it for a small indie title.
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Late night bumping!
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>>122544820
but it's 8AM
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>>122536402
How do I play the game?
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>>122548825
You'll need an Android device, not sure if it's available on iPhone. Go to the Google Play store and download an app called "QooApp" that will allow you to get Japan-only games.

Then, open QooApp and search for "ゴシックは魔法乙女". The game should appear in the search results, you'll need to download and install that. That's how you get the game. Specific details for playing the game and navigating the menus will be included in my guide for the game, which should be finished around next week.
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>>122494891
It's gone back up to 9,148 ± 2,410.
I'm pretty sure even the dev admits that Steamspy is really buggy. Hell, towards the bottom of the page it even says "Steam Spy is still in beta, so expect major bugs."
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>>122549508
Thanks anon, currently downloading the game.
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>>122549735
It's been several months since I started, so I don't exactly remember what the game is like when you first launch it. I know you'll have to pick a username for yourself and a starter girl, and I *think* it might also ask if you want the game to use high-res pictures or not.

It might be difficult to navigate since it's almost entirely in Japanese. I lurk this thread though and I'll try to answer any questions asked about the game.

It's called Gothic wa Mahou Otome, if you didn't know.
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>playing KAMUI
>last stage, finally hit 20M mark
>die
>could easily reach ~25M and at least top 15 on steam leaderboards, first page

Witness me shmupg, I'll make you proud.
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I don't suppose there are any good shumps with cute anime boys...?
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>>122550796
last stage as in the Adjudicator one? You can get lots of points on the Neural Nest before by shooting the hexagons

>>122552195
Hellsinker
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>no matter how good leaderboards score we get cheaters will still be higher
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Good monring /shmupg/ have you dreamed of Vic Vipers jumping over fences?
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>>122552287
I mean seriously.
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>>122553396
I'm serious. Hellsinker is great and Dead Liar is cute! CUTE!

Play Mamorukun too I guess
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Well, this is showing signs of recovery today, hope it grows like bad weed
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>>122555034
I had to make this.
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>>122552195
Ketsui
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>>122552195
mamoru kun is cursed
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>>122535350
I've downloaded just about every single shmup on mobile and 99% of them are pure trash.

The only ones I haven't minded so far are Stikers 1945 III (specifically III, 1 and 2 aren't nearly as good on their hit detection)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ht_JFVR9v4

And

Mahou Otome, as >>122536402 is mentioning.

The problem that most of these mobile shmups suffer from is chunking. Like in Elemental Wings, Dragon Heroes or Soul Rage, it looks like it's going to be awesome, but when you actually play it, the 'stages' are like 15 seconds long with 3-4 waves of popcorn enemies and a boss. It's obnoxious as fuck to wade through 10 menus, clicking OK, clicking a Friend, skipping the pointless as fuck 'dialog' event they shoved in, and then getting a measly dab of gameplay that lasts under 30 seconds.
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>>122558186
dragon heroes have an arcade mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQHvYYla8sc
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>>122553586
>>122556284
>>122557896
Many thanks.
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>>122555204
too many memes 6/10
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Sora is coming to Steam. Publisher is FBF.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/390730/?snr=1_5_1100__1100
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>>122560248
Wait isnt she from 100% Orange Juice? I thought that was a board game.
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>>122563626
They're like a doujin circle group of sorts so they have stock characters that they use in a ton of different games.
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>>122563626
Orange Juice started out as STG developers.

100% OJ is a different genre from the previous games. Kind of like Nintendo characters in Mario Party or Fortune Street.

Sora is entirely different.
http://suguri.wikia.com/wiki/Sora
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So guise, how can we make shmups attractive to anons other than suggesting they are the new Dark Souls or filling them with despicable memes?

Thousands of fanart have given birth to the touhou monster, just saiyan, but if I were the one to draw I would drive them away.
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>>122567181
You don't make shmups popular, you make popular shmups. Nuclear Throne seems pretty well-liked so think about why and start from there.
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>>122567673
>Nuclear Throne

That's not a shmup though
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>>122567727
>I define shmups by this narrow band of arcade games nobody likes
>why does nobody like shmups

Retard alert.
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>>122567803

Anon, I'm not the guy who defined shmups, run and guns aren't either shmups per se, but they are run and guns, and there's shooting allright.
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>>122567906
I guess we can't talk about Guwange any more. No more Guwange guys it's a run and gun.

>>122451391
Fuck off with your run and guns this is a shmup thread.
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>>122567982
Fuck off with your 'shump' this is an STG thread and all arcade shooting games qualify.
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>>122568268
Well it looks like you just answered your own question. You're not going to make anyone into a bullet cloud loving, high-score wanting, practice with savestates before doing runsing, turn your tv on its side STG autist that wouldn't be inclined to be anyway so kill yourself while other shmups flourish.
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>>122568483
>le screenshake Newgrounds garbage
>flourish.
heh
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>>122568668
More people play it than are in your little STG cult maybe you should ask ISIS for advice on how to recruit fanatics.
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>>122509423
>DoDonPachi 2: Bee Storm
>CAVE didn't develop it, it's a different company (IGS).

Here you go.
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>>122568754
>More people play it
Wow it surely speaks of its quality like with everyone else popular with more people.
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>>122568754
do you also go into srpg threads and tell people that if they want the genre to be more popular it should consider becoming real time?
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>>122568754
(cont) Or in your case, ISOS as you already hinted.
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>>122568939
Perhaps and perhaps not, the point was that it could be considered to flourish as was being sarcastexted.

>>122568950
No.
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>>122560248
Neat, I hear that's one of their best.
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>>122568754
>STG cult maybe you should ask ISIS for advice on how to recruit fanatics

This is hilarious, do you go to fps discussions to tell them that they should include tps so there are more games that qualify?
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>>122567982
>guess we can't talk about Guwange any more. No more Guwange guys it's a run and gun.

Actually Guwange even tough you run, doesn't qualify as run adn gun

We feared the moment would come and here they are, the shitposters, let's exercise the wisdom I haven't had for two posts and ignore them from now on.
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>>122567181
We shill on /v/ with cute girls. Cave games have that, right?
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>>122571064

Some of them
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>>122569619
I'm not telling anyone they include anything, I'm telling the poster above that his perceived narrow interest is caused by his narrow definition. If you only care about true 1000x folded nipponese hardcore score attacks that's fine, but don't act like shmups are struggling when I can name X Y and Z recent shmups that have gained a following.

>>122569710
>Guwange doesn't qualify as a run and gun
Oh great sensei of STG cult please teach me why Guwange isn't a run and Gun but Nuclear Throne is.
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Mushihimesama is pretty fun. I have Futari so I didn't know what my expectations were going into it, but I am enjoying it quite a bit.
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>>122571951

I do not endorse shitposting, go to /b/
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>>122572457

Do you have the black label DLC, how would you rate it? Not sure if I should
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>>122573181
You can't do it can you? You can't explain your own thought process and behavior. Why does the STG cult brand Nuclear Throne apocryphal but canonize Kiki Kaikai?
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>>122573917

I do not endorse shitposting, go to /b/.

I can't certain explain why a roguelike is not a shmup, sherlock
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Why is Sand Scorpion so fucking horrible?
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>>122574291
Why can't a shmup be a roguelike as well? Is that a teaching of the STG cult?
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>>122574535

I do not endorse shitposting, go to /v/
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>>122574802
Do you think that makes me want to leave? If anything your evasiveness makes me want to stick around to study this STG cult more.
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Cmon guys, it's just our second thread. It's far too early to squabble and fight like this.
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>>122575119

I won't even answer then
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>>122575147
You have a broad definition of fight. If only someone else were so broad in their definitions.
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>>122575278
You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up!

Btw I've been following these threads for years, not going anywhere.
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>>122575394

Thanks for bumping the threads that have only existed for a few days but you have followed for decades
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>>122575473
Woah there youngster your new is showing. You must be a junior member in the STG cult.
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>>122575762

See

>>122575147
>it's just our second thread

Last bumb wasted in shitposting, I'm off to play vidya or whatever.
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>>122575762
I was already shooting spaceships while your dad was shooting sperm into tissues. Get off my lawn, fucking whippersnappers.
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>>122573353
Not that anon, but even though I like the black label DLC I don't think it's worth it.
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>>122575943
Simply epic. Now I feel silly for having been in the dozens of past shmup threads on /vg/.
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Report, ignore, whatever. Stop responding, guys.

>>122571064
A lot, if not most, of their shooters on the CV1000B have anime girls.
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>>122576374
Report for what, liking Nuclear Throne? There really ought to be a separation between STG cult and state.
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>>122576003

It has one of my favourite mechanics on it, but doesn't seem to add much apart from that, still I am slightly tempted
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TLBump
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What is your favourite scoring mechanic and why? Just a mechanic.

I personally like what you can do in the mushis, go point blank and collect the rain.
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>>122519257
>If you hold down full auto and mash regular shot, your shot becomes noticeably more powerful

Weird, is this a bug?
Also is there any drawback or should I always be tapping shot when i go full auto?
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>>122582694
The drawback is you can't focus while doing it and it makes barely any difference at long range.
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>>122581905
Anything that isn't proximity scoring or chaining.
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>>122581905
I dont really do score, but my favorite would have to be from Imperishable Night. The way you can unlock extra spellcards made me want to achieve a higher score, which I never do in other shmups.
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>>122581905
I liked the way it's done in Mushihimesama Futari original, the one where you auto when the counter is green and hold shot when it's blue.
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>>122587512
...Forgot the why. I like it because it's simple, so I don't feel I have to watch high level replays, but it's really fun to try to make levels consistent across my different runs.
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el bumpo rodriguez
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>>122593642
I really need to play the PC-98 games. Too bad that remake will never be released.
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>>122595321
go play them on an emulator. MS is the pineapple of the series.
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>>122596481
The graph should go up for SA, if only just a bit.
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Anyone know where I can find the OST for pic related? The generic name makes it hard to find anything.
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>>122595321
4 and 5 are pretty good, and I have a soft spot for the EX boss from 2, though I can't fucking beat it.

>>122596481
The pineapple?
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>>122600639
Pinnacle, of course.
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What can you tell me about this shmup /vg/? Worth a try? Seems weird as fuck.
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>>122606649
Hellsinker. Definitely worth playing. Look here for more infos. http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53078
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>>122571951
auto scrolling
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>>122606854
Thanks anon, I already knew the name just wanted to see what you all thought.
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Bump up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOfK58sIIuQ
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GIT SUM

GIT SUM

GIT SUM
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>>122617967
>Marisa
Worst shot types ever.

Dat master spark though.
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>>122618204
I like using Marisa in Lotus Land Story, Mystic Square, and EoSD (and maybe PoFV), but that's about it.
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finally found it

anyone ever played this?
indygamer.blogspot*com/2007/05/fraxy.html
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>>122618671
The only Marisa shot type I ever liked was her piercing lasers in EoSD, Marisa B I think it was? She's just kind of eh for me in the other games.
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>>122618875
I have only downloaded the base editor and fired it up once, was pretty fun just messing around with the already pre-made enemies. I have also seen ridiculous bosses made for it.
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>>122619692
I liked MarisaA in EoSD. A few years ago, I got pretty into scoring the Extra stage and I used MarisaA because I suck shit at dodging Royal Flare and so I just safespotted it.

I also used to like Marisa/Alice in Imperishable Night, but nowadays I prefer Reimu/Yukari's shot type.
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>>122620073
Good god I hated IN Marisa/Alice. Marisa was okay, but Alice had to be one of the worst shot types I ever played in a shmup. Only good thing about her was the MAlice Cannon.

Playing as Team Border gave you Ran, so of course that is automatically the best team in the game.
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I didn't initially like Mushihimesama's artstyle but it has kinda grown on me.
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