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What is the deepest/most complex fighting game and why?
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>>122317923
best fantasy
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>>122317923
what fighting game is this?
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Why is startup too slow to cancel into super?
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Reminder, KoF98 tourney this friday

http://fggvo.challonge.com/1stPlace_HBR

Also join the IRC on rizon.net #/fgg/
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>>122318039
dissidia
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Join the fgg melty tournament today!

http://challonge.com/merutyburodo

streamed on

http://www.twitch
.tv/sniffgg/

-GETTING THE GAME
1) Download http://www.mediafire.com/?dv14o5xj572fn
2) extract with 7zip (some other programs don't work, 7zip recommended)

-SETTING UP ONLINE
1) Download latest version of caster from https://mega.nz/#F!ccRylLbZ!-E9AZDSd_pm6PgVQ35z6QA
2) extract
3) put everything in melty blood forlder
4) cccaster.v3.0.exe is now the only .exe you need to use, launch it and set buttons/set nickname

-HOSTING AND JOINING
1) Select the first option in the caster ("netplay")
2) If you just write a port number you will host on that port number - give the IP you get to someone to have them connect!
3) If you want to join, just take the IP:port you are given and paste it in the netplay option
4) You can use any port to host, but it should be open in your router. No need to open any ports if you just join the game instead of hosting.

-SELECTING ROLLBACK/DELAY
1) Upon connection the game will give you "initial delay" and you will be prompted to choose rollback/delay options
2) Just put 4 rollback always and start from 0 delay. Add 1 delay for every "initial delay" point over 3. Examples:
4 initial delay > 4r 1d
2 id > 4r 0d
6 id > 4r 3d
3) This is only an indication, if it feels too "teleporty" you can add delay ingame by pressing crtl+x where x is the number of delay you want to reach (crtl+3 > changed whatever setting it was to 3 delay)
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>>122318318
No
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>lewd OP picture of a game nobody plays
>every single time

Why do we even keep pretending?
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>>122318039
GBTR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGpDgnhp6Q
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People thought I was crazy. they thought it was all in my mind. But H-Ciel's dash is ACTUALLY slower than F's. It has a higher peak speed but H's starts up in 7 frames while F's starts up in 6. This may seem like a small difference but when you are used to playing F-Ciel, H's just feels so much worse. In melty especially i'd gladly trade some top speed for a better startup.

Now I can safely say H-Ciel may be one of the worst characters in the game. I literally can't believe people in japan play this shitty character more than F.
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>>122318318
fuck no
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>>122318318
ciel sucks lmaooooooooo
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>>122318724
this tbhfam
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how can i play f ahika before the tournament
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>>122318318
I can't start the game from the caster, this is after extracting the caster zip into the melty folder
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>>122318857
http://drunkardshade.com/2015/07/22/melty-bits-f-akiha/
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>>122318318
brick i dont think thats a real tourney.
like i dont know if the guy who made it is going to follow through so you might be disappoint
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>>122318318
Hey Breek, how do launchers in this game work?
Sometimes 5C seems to send the foe airborne and other times not at all.
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>>122318998
Whoa man how many casters you got? You only need the latest version, 3.0018. It looks like you are attempting to use version 1.1, which is the wrong one.

>>122319037
Well he posted the twitch and seemed like he wanted to do it.

>>122319110
What character?
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is it better to dash with the stick or 2 buttons
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>>122319110
you can knock them down with some moves like 2C and another move might pick them up.
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>>122319324
Thanks.
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>>122319268
I personally always use 2 buttons but I think melty has a pretty big buffer for stick dashes that doesn't happen with buttons. I'm not too sure about this though since I always use button dashes.
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>>122319268
mahvel?
plink dash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9xrged7TJs
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>>122318012
Capcom Fighting Evolution

Diverse cast, lot of mechanics, very footsies based
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>>122318828
akiha sucks too
the only good melty girls are Aoko and Arc
maybe Hisui
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>>122319268
2 button is not available in every game, so I'd guess it's more useful to learn that way.
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>>122319529
shit taste desu
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>>122319248
>Whoa man how many casters you got? You only need the latest version, 3.0018.
All I did was extract the download from mega and put it in the folder like you said.
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>>122319625
doesn't mean shit coming from you to be quite honest family
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>>122319529
>Arc
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>>122319790
I will never stop
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>>122319790
good fucking lord, lucky that sign didn't hit her at a different angle/spot
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>>122319529
>Aoko
good taste senpai
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>>122319750
On the mega link there are all the versions of the caster since the very first one. It's a list of all different versions, you can choose only one to download, the latest one (3.0018). Then you extract that.

Anyway, it looks like you downloaded all of them, shouldn't be a problem, you just have to unzip the folder that says catser 3.0018 and use the "cccaster.v3.0.exe" file.
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SO TAMALE SHIT NO SIGH
AH HAHAHAHAHA
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>>122319943
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Who's a good beginner character in Melty?
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are there any furries in melty
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>>122320220
Roastbeef
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All melty girls are good

but Akiha is the best
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>>122320251
There are two chibi cat-humans.

>>122320503
No, Meltys designs are god awful
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>>122318131
:3
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>>122320242
chariot doesn't like shotas and also i think he got banned
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>>122320251
Neco Arc
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>>122320251
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>>122320636
I think he was caught ban evading too lmao
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>>122320676
ohh thats a nice nero picture
shame it isn't hi res
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ugh why do all these old man games have flashing red screens and shit
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>>122320803
you can make it higher res with the magical powers of waifu2x
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Pro wrestling is the ultimate combat style in fighting games
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>>122321194
surely i'm not the only one who's made this connection before
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is there a fighting game character that uses greco roman wrestling and not the gay american kind of wrestling?
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>>122321262
You got that right, motherfucker.
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>>122321436
>wrestling another man completely naked and slathered in oil isn't gay
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>>122321306
They're even voiced by the same guy, I'm sure you aren't
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>>122321514
you are neither naked nor oiled in greco roman wrestling
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>>122321516
the fuck, really? i never knew
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>>122321514
did they tell you this at redneck college?
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Lol, Melty is like Skullgirls where you can just press buttons and it works. Does it have 30+ hit combos followed by a cross-under reset into another forever one as well?
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>>122321663
every game is like this when you're a shitter playing other shitters, what was the point of this post?
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What's the tier list for Melty
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>>122321783
No, it Street Fighter you can't just mash combos
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>>122321815
top tier is that guy who just jumps and presses C
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is it any good?
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>>122321584
It's tradition, the loser gets fucked in the ass.
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>>122321870
>what was the point of this post?
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>>122321436
Pro Wrestling isn't inherently American. Maybe Attitude Era-esque "Half a dozen chairshots to the head, brawling, tons of people running in, ends in Disqualification" image, but pretty much all wrestlers in fighters, even if they're American, are generally styled somewhat after classic Japanese puroresu style, which is often more grounded, less-gimmicked, and influenced by MMA.

Before you mention Alex and Hugo, Hogan and Andre both had pretty nice runs in Japan in the 80s. Andre was actually probably at his best over there. Matches of him and Stan Hansen beating the SHIT out of each other while Japs freak the fuck out are the best.
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>>122321956
what's the point of your life lmaoooo
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sf4 is the worst fighting game of all time and has caused irreparable damage to the community and the fighting game genre
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>>122318012
tekken 4
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>>122322032
is today opposite day
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>>122322032
if it never existed fighting games would be figuratively dead right now
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>>122321815
tiers are irrelevant if you are just starting out.
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>>122322073
>>122322102
good

fgs being dead is better than all fgs being garbage because they followed sf4's example

not to mention that the people sf4 introduced to fighting games are the worst human beings on the planet because only they would be interested in such a trash game
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>>122321968
ishii is the best
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>>122318318
Thanks brick
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>>122320242
I don't know who this is and I don't like shota, that's Arson.
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>>122320941
the worst thing in fighting games is when you land a huge combo and/or super that leaves them with like 2 pixels of life left and you have to end the round with a random poke or some throw gimmick or chip damage

i think if you're blowing somebody the fuck out and you do something that leaves them a couple pixels from death the game should just say fuck it and give you the W
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>>122322815
they call him the king for a reason
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>>122322886
I'm thinking of trying to stay awake and commentate if it's alright with you, since you said there was no commentary. Not sure I won't fall asleep before the start though, but I can try.
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>>122323040
no neck no problems
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>>122323003

okay thanks
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>>122323050
>i'll stay up and commentate but I won't play because I don't want to get exposed
Just lmao. Also, where's the Melty tier list
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>>122321453
>oh shit he grabbed me from behind
>better ram into the corners
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>>122323489
Melty isnt a game where you can just pick top tier and win.
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Brick is the most tolarable tripfag desu. Why do people hate him for aside from obvious matrix levels of dodging? And no I am not brick I don't have a trip to drop.
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>>122323489
Well if I stay awake I can try playing too, it's just that since most people there will be beginners (and american to) I'm not sure if they'd prefer to just play among themselves. IF I stay up and if you want I could enter too.
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>>122323845
JUST
DO
IT
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>>122323814
How is he tolerable?

>blogposts all the fucking time
>uses the same like 20 pictures
>dodges non-stop
>is shit at fighting games
Literally one of the worst.
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>>122324191
>using "shit at fighting games" as a reason for hating someone
look at where you are
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>>122324191
literally every trip blogposts here
I really love shiba inu
true
you are shit at fighting games too lol dont lie to yourself
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>>122324515
the yuro trips are hilariously bad about blogposting though. 9/10 of broskis posts are standalone posts with a simpsons/beary pink girl image and some completely unrelated shit nobody cares about
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>>122323814
brick is a dumb pizza-based lifeform that only posts

-dog memes
-melty blogs
-greentext >americans or >anonyderps when someone is losing an argument he's not even involved in
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>>122324515
>shiba inu
u mean doge dogs?
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Anyone wanna play something on Fightcade?
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Im making waffles
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>tfw only options for fgs is to suffer through sf4 or spend hours waiting for a single opponent in a game you actually like

why
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>>122324768
http://www.theonion.com/article/websters-reluctantly-adds-melty-to-english-lexicon-5866
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>>122324882
what game are you playing that it takes hours to get someone to play? something super old and obscure on fightcade?
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>>122324659
lol broski is a fucking idiot
brick is fine
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>>122324954
pretty much
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>>122324882
What game I need something new tolearn
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>>122325120
Melty Blood
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>>122320789
what a pathetic fucking faggot lol
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Why aren't crossups allowed in Melty Blood? What's the purpose of this
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in kof 98 is mature's DP move an actual reversal or what

srk wiki doesn't list any information about the move and idk what other english speaking resources this game has
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>>122325570
it's way too easy to set up extremely dangerous crossups and there are already ways to subvert crossup protection.
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>>122325593
it's not reliable. it trades more often than not. use the light version i think it's slightly faster.
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>>122325570
They are allowed. You just have to be facing the other character.
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>>122322102
>fighting games would be dead
>wouldn't have had to suffer through sfxt, marvel 3, divekick, yatagarasu, kof13, kof14, the mlp fighting game, skullgirls, any of the 1000 fotm anime games that people shill in here, flipbucket, twitch chat, r/kappa or this general
sf4 ruined everything
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The Caster's config seems to only pick up button presses once in a while. What is causing this?
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>be me
>play smash bros melee
>play falco
>press up+B
>"BUN-YA!!!!!"
>someone tries to convince me that it's some moonspeaker trying to say "FIRE"
>press up+B again, listening for an "F" sound or an "R" sound, or even an "L" sound like moonspeakers do instead of R
>"BUN-YA!!!!!"
>mfw
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>>122325870
>any of the 1000 fotm anime games that people shill in here
09ers babbies actually believe this
anime had nothing to do with street fighter it was and it is always popular in arcades
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>>122326114
nice blog okay but what does this have to do with fighting games
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Sorry guys im gonna have to postpone the tourney till tomorrow due to work
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what groove is better in kof98?
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>>122326214
>what does this have to do with fighting games
>smash bros melee

gee i dunno

>>122326246

0/10
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>>122326441
>melee
>fighting game
>>>/vg/ssbg
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>>122322102
Weren't Tekken and MK games still coming out, and selling decent enough? Anime games were still being made as well. It did wonders for the community, but fighting games were still being made during capcoms absence.
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>>122326495
>melee
>not fighting game
>>>/hitlersovens/
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>>122326495

here's your (You)

just give up and commit, the zoloft isn't going to work
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>>122326308
breek save us. or someone else who can stream.
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>>122326308
Welp, guess it's time to sleep then. If you do it tomorrow though could you do it earlier as I said? Something like 5 hours earlier than this time would be the best, but if not just as much as you can would be helpful.

I don't think it would be a problem for americans either since it's sunday and I doubt they'd be at work or anything.
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>>122326787
>zoloft
fuck that noise, i enjoy being able to jerk my dick more than i do not being depressed
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>>122326878
>>122326308
Oh wait, you already changed it. Perfect, see you tomorrow then!

>>122326819
Sorry man but I'm kinda sleepy and I can't stream anyway. Please spread the word, the tournaments is tomorrow instead!
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I'm new to fighting games and idk which stick I should buy? What stick do I buy for ps4/PC use /fgg/?
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>>122327238
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how was the samsho tournament?
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>>122321968
I prefer when pro-wrestling when it's acrobatic, with lots of high-flying stuff, but I don't think that could translate well for fighting game character.
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>>122327496
*crickets*
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>>122327496
Charlottes as far as the tourney could view
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>>122324954
Any KoF on Steam. With 13 you might get lucky and find match in 45 minutes.
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>>122327496
I won
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>>122318039
Smash.
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>>122327496
it was pretty fun. i actually want to play it more now
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>>122327496
Some memester won with lag and memes, nothing new
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anyone here play kof98?

whats the best way to build team iori
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>>122328810
mature 1st, iori and vice 2nd or 3rd whichever you want.
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>>122318318
Well, I'm going to sleep now.

Everyone who wants to take part in the melty blood tournament should take note that it has been moved to tomorrow at an erlier time (look up at the challonge for the actual time, I'm bad with time zones conversions). If anyone didn't notice and asks, please tell them so!
Please look forward to my commentary tomorrow and consider signing up if you haven't already!

Good night!!
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>>122327496
buncha frenchies getting massacred by a guy who makes himself explode

no this is not a joke watch the archive

how many in a row was it?
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>>122329045
This tourney isn't going to happen at all. Kek, I knew it.
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>>122326798
(。・ω・。)
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What makes Waku Waku 7 a bad game?
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Why haven't you completed all the kof13 trials, anon?
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>Goh Hinogami's moveset
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How much was the time period between SFV's first and second betas?
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>>122330275
They're pretty difficult and I don't like the game enough to grind it out.
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>>122330298
So you did buy it after all.
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>>122330580
no one stopped me
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>>122330275
Because i'm not a trainingbroski
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can i hire one of u to kill me in my sleep
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>>122330915
>6 button game
>special 1 and special 2
uhhhhhhhh, no
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>>122330275
i dont like kof
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>>122330915
HOLY FUCK THOSE CONTROLS

This is literally worst than Rising Thunder, I didn't even think that was possible
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>>122330915
Is this the year of easy to play fighters?
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>>122330275
because only half of them are practical.
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JOJOBAN
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if ur a grill reply to this post
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>122331479
Hell no
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When will they make a video game girl hotter than Tifa it's been almost 20 years
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>>122331479

hey bb can u handle this?
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>>122331479
hey ;)
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>>122330825
do his halfwall throw in a match
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>>122331735
hot

>>122331790
[meme] me up scotty
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>>122330915
>The health bar is currently actually 6 Hit Points.
>It definitely won't be a game for everyone, especially if you really like all the complex inputs and combos of modern fighting games, but I think this will appeal to people who: Like the idea of Rising Thunder but maybe some of it's features aren't to their taste, like the robot character designs, the cooldowns on specials, the online-only play, the 8-button layout which isn't friendly to 6 button joysticks, forced grind (? probably?) to access loadout options, or it's lengthy combo strings that require a lot of memorisation or 1P training mode time to learn what's best to do.
>
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>>122330275
2hard4me
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what does Laura's asshole smell of?????

srs guys?????
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>>122330915
Not sure how well that will work, but there is room in the world for people to experiment with fighting games.
And there might be some untapped material in more simple fighting game.
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So is there a small breakdown of each character and what there specials are? I'm not going to go through each character to figure out which one I like.
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>>122332171

Coconut Oil
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>>122332807
What game?
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someone see me in kof98 so I dont have to try and play BR's
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>>122332807
lmao what
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>>122332807
>>122332878
>>122332930
For Melty Blood* It's really hard to pick characters who I think look cool when all the designs suck so the only way to choose is to look at their specials.
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>>122332807
Wut game?
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>>122332957
What kinds of characters do you normally like?
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>>122332957
There is like billion characters when you count all the moons.
Just pick random and go from there.
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>>122333015
I really don't know, really. I play everything, kinda.
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>>122332957
Just pick Nanaya because he's the coolest.
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>>122332926
Sure I'll play. Name is Axem
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>>122333183
That's a hilarious joke. The guy with a knife in a generic school uniform is "cool"
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>>122333352
Not everything has to be over the top.
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>>122330915
>no directional inputs for specials
>no crouching/low attacks
>1 attack button and 2 for specials
>inb4 block button
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>>122333427
You're right but that doesn't mean that you can be lazy and make a very generic character design. You need to give the characters a visual personality and the majority of the characters in Melty have none
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Anyone want to play kof?
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>>122333532
>Nanaya doesn't have a personality
Nice one, Anon.
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>>122333532
I dont think you understand what Melty even is.
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is wireless really so bad in melty blood

i remember playing it once a couple years ago and it worked fine
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>>122333523
>inb4 block button
This is Sirlin we're talking about, the man who thinks two button throws is terrible game design because ST had one button throws.
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>>122333873
>Using wireless internet for online gaming
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>>122333793
>visual personality
idiot
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>>122334006
i mean it works

ethernet isn't really an option atm

haven't had a single problem on ggpo or fightcade
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>>122332171
pineapple juice
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>>122330915
I agree with the other memearrow posters mostly but as an idea a simple fighting game is not necessarily dumb, a simple game anyone can pick up and play properly with fundamentals only would be nice in /fgg/vo for example or for some normies that have friends that don't play fighters etc

but

>no crouching
>jump button

into the trash it goes
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>>122333592
You're winning the 98 tournament this Friday right?
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>>122333793
do you even know what Tsukihime is?
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Is Fightcade down?
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>>122333592
want to play some 98 with your old pal slim?
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>>122334215
the problem with the idea is that making a 'simple' fighting game but still trying to make it play like street fighter or whatever is impossible

something like samurai gunn or lethal league has pretty simple mechanics/controls and don't really share many elements of fighting games when it comes to concrete game design

but it still has a lot of the things that make actual fighting games fun at a high level and so those games work in ways divekick or rising thunder dont
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>>122334349
looks like it
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>>122332957
Archetype Earth's design is relatively good. You could try with her.
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>>122334349
Was about to ask, died for me.
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i keep losing and i'm not improving what do i do i feel like total shit
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>>122332957
>because
nero chaos is cool outside of the face being derpy
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>>122334330
I don't really enter /fgg/ tournaments since they conflict with locals. Besides there are better 98 players than me here

>>122334367
Sure, I'll be in the room
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>>122334594
every character in melty has a derp face especially akiha
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>>122329191
3 or 4 I think

I lost the first match, but won 2 on the losers bracket
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>>122334367
Wait, slim doesn't talk like this. Johnny is this you?
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Someone spoil Tsukihime for me.
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>>122334714
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why are supers so hard to do in kof god damn

it's not the input itself because I can pull it off just fine for stuff like matures projectile
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>>122334819
Nvm
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yo is this sonicfox?
https://youtu.be/0DW31upNEEg
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>>122334824
it was all a dream
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someone play me in melty since the tourney got postponed
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>>122334824
Kohaku is behind everything
Shiki's step-father killed his family
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>>122334913
If you're not blaming the inputs, maybe it's you.
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>>122334993
Host
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Someone play me in melty until they fix fightcade.

>>122334993
Are you eu/ec? Eu here.
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>>122334913
Don't do it as a half circle, do QCF QCB. Much easier. Or if you want to bullshit, QCF QCF B.
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>>122333185
fightcade is back up, get back
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>>122333873
Game doesn't magically detect are you on wire or wireless.

Shitty connection is shitty, and good is good, no matter what.

I'd assume that at the year of our lord 2015 wireless routers are capable of acceptable speeds.
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>>122334913
09er execution
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>>122335089
67.176.253.147:46318

>>122335143
midwest
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>>122335262
yea my speed is perfectly fine. just wanted to know if there was something janky about the netcode that fucked up wireless connections or something since it was specifically mentioned somewhere
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>>122334523
Trying her right now.

>>122334594
I already did try him, I don't like his specials that much,
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>>122335380
Nah people just shit on wireless because they don't understand how internet works.
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>>122335181
Back on whenever you're ready
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>>122335380
Its not about speed its about stability
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>>122334946
>>122335004
Sounds retarded. Thanks. I no longer care anymore.
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the guy i was hosting melty for disappeared so anyone else can try joining >>122335370


>>122335506
95% of wireless connections have inconsistent ping and cause spikes.
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>>122335837
In USA*
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>>122335506
>>122335380

Wireless connections have large ping variances

Unless you're literally sitting at your router (then what's the point?)
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>>122335837
>95% of wireless connections have inconsistent ping and cause spikes.
Do you mean that in 95% of cases when you encounter someone with shitty connection you blame them having wireless even when you don't know if it's so.
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Yo
I'm drunk
Come and beat my Chun at SFIV PC
ATM Chouette
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>>122317923

what does sweaty Tifa smell like
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There's nothing wrong with wireless if you niggas are on fiber internet. Even if you use a wired connection, you should get fiber internet unless you live in some shitty flyover state that doesn't have it
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>>122336134
Roses and sweat
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>>122335904
wireless technology is not magically different outside of america. a handful of wireless adapters allow for low enough ping variance to be compared to wired but they're expensive and rare.

>>122335953
it's more like 95% of the time i run into a shitty connection the other person reveals that they're on wireless. it's not like it's incapable of being any good but it makes it way more likely the connection will be inconsistent.
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>>122336209
You're absolutely wrong.
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>>122336134
final heaven
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>>122330915
>yfw David Sirloin makes $2k+/m from his Patreon
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>>122336323
Flyover with more latency than a wireless FioS user detected
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what is the point of playing cody against faggots with dp?
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>>122336134
old cloud cummies
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>>122336057
Cmon fags you're scared or what?
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>>122336134
meeeee
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>>122336632
>What's the point of frame trap rush down
Figuring out how and when they will press buttons, block or reversal and using that against them.
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>>122336772
what is a frame trap?
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