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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1
>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
1st for miko when
lazy fucks
Remove BR.
ded game
ded thread
forgot
>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot
>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
How does it know
>>122232782
I thought this guy was only running around with a meme name, but no. He's actually BR.
Anyone wanna sell me an arde dagger for 500k?
>>122232958
/r/ NOOT NOOT scrolling image
Lamia going full pol
This game got boring pretty fast compared to other Korean grinders.
Anybody want to sell me a non-jew price for Vubbe Fighter Blood on Zemyna?
Did the devs forget to add mobs to Vilna or what? This place is completely bare
>>122233021
>Exp/Hr
>103,680
>>122233246
I JUST TRIED IT AND WAS ACTUALLY QUESTING, GOD ANON
>>122231890
>>122231582
I'm already archer c2-sapperc2 soon, so I just wanted a class to try out before I take Reiter, which I really wanted to have because it looks so cool
This is everything I've ever wanted.
It's only at level 3 too.
Someone give me tips to git gud at elementalist. Fuckers are cancelling my castings all the time and I'm getting my shit kicked just fro trying to use it's skills.
When does dungeon counts reset?
>no mob density in 95% of the zones
>long respawns
>forced to save cards at key moments or you're forced to grind for days straight to get out of no quest hell
>awful class balance, the worst I've ever seen
>completely useless classes that do nothing
>completely broken stats
>linear leveling in a game that greatly encourages you to make tons of characters and try tons of different and unique class combinations
How long will this game last at release?
>>122233412
May I request a screenshot with your character stats tab open and item inventory open?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/overkill-xp-x2-5/113541/19
>because Right now Barbarian is the worst class in sustainability, yea Swordsman have the higher hp pool if you compare it to other melee character...but hey barbarian don't have self heal like monk or immunity to dmg.. etc...etc...etc...etc... and they dmg isn't that ■■■■■■■ great
>this thread
my sides
What if there's another wave of changes on stuff on the kOBT?
>>122233447
If you didnt go wizard 3, then good job falling for the pyro/cryo meme.
>>122233412
I'm going for the same build. Funny.
Although I think Doppel skills will be for 2h swords only in later patches.
>>122233661
I wanted to try as many classes as posible so I'm just going one cicle with every class.
>>122233458
In 4 hours and 25 minutes.
>>122233014
>Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot
this is so wrong though
Anyone 190+ on gabija wanna do the dungeon?
Will toyhammer stabbing be the new brabarian?
>>122233807
But then they'll have to change Bash to only work with swords or thrust and Hoplite skills to not work with blunt weapons.
>>122234186
cata stabbing with galin is better and that's not the new barb, so no.
wtb> lapis katzbalger
>>122234358
I have the recipe.
Any alchemist in Zemyna? Please awaken my weapon I beg you ;_;
How do you build Sadhus? Do they go dex like a physical damage class, or not like a cleric?
Also, they're decent, right?
>buy shit on broker
>try to use it
>the number you've used is less then what you currently have
nice exploits guys
Cheat Engine table for big head mode:
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7ba46f9fc588eedfce3a
>>122234186
No, because stabbing has a cooldown.
Corsair C2 hits that fast nearly 24/7. And the buff will have 24/7 uptime at C3, which koreans are getting in their OBT.
EVERYTHING MUST BURN!
You can potentially get four pillars of fire going if your connection is good.
>>122234857
You have an item with less than 30% durability remaining.
>>122234787
C-cute. But how do I use this
>>122234857
Fire pillar spam? That's neat.
>>122232937
that's so adorable and I want to shake that wand too someday
>>122234857
but does it actually do damage?
Hoe do you link items in chat, again?
Also to trade Monster Gems you have to socket them into some cheap item, right?
Is fade good? Cleric players.
I can sort of imagine it has situational benefits, both for damage dealing and support classes
>>122235091
Open up your inventory and then Control Left click the item you want to link
>>122233831
that is the worst way to assess a class
is anyone else taking way longer on load screens today, or is it just my internet being awful?
How do alchs actually sell the potions they make, marketplace only?
>>122234950
With Cheat Engine, senpai.
>>122235043
Eh, they do 500-600 damage a tick.
how do I cheat engine the money so I can buy a meme dagger for myself?
>>122233661
>Needing mage 3 for safecasting when shield does the same at rank 1
memes.
>>122235450
I never used one. Do I have to be a l337 hacker to use it
>>122235462
not bad if you can spam them like that i guess
>>122235362
Thanks mane
>>122235438
I just use the market
>>122235535
Ollydbg to bypass verification, the CE your thing
So, is the main quest just gone after going to kateen forest? I've already done all the maps including sunset flag, I guess I'm supposed to go the pilgrim route from fedimian right?
Do I get a main questline at some point or was that it?
>>122234736
pls respond
>>122235235
+ Helps you protect your body as Sadhu
+ Can run around messing with quests objectives and the like while invisible to enemies, you can honestly do anything while Faded except:
- Breaks if you cause damage for ANY reason
- Will not protect you from AoEs
If you're not going Sadhu I see no reason to go beyond C1 Cleric.
>>122226262
>>122235738
Level up more like literally every other time
>>122235902
To what point senpai?
>>122235743
full Int, you aren't support you are dps but you can heal.
Sadhu life in instances is usually
>doing highest dps
>doing all of the healing
>having to pull with safety wall because your swordie is some retarded brbarian
class is great and fun as fuck, although they really only have 1 good skill (+a second good one at c2, but both skills are amazing so it's fine).
>>122235595
>Do I have to be a l337 hacker to use it
No. It's just a pain to set up at first.
Download that file from github (right click on Raw, save as Client_tos.CT).
Download CheatEngine and run it.
Click the blinking button and select the game process (Client_tos.exe).
Click the Open button on the right of the blinking one and open the CT file.
Check the checkbox on the left of BigHeadMode.
Now the "Character Select" button (the one which returns to your home thing) will toggle big heads.
Uncheck theBigHeadMode checkbox to disable.
>bugged boss
>giant peltasta
ebin
This literally doesn't do what the tooltip says at all.
If anybody has any translation requests for items that are incorrect or skills that are confusing, I'm happy to put through a pull request and change some things.
>>122236454
do you even know what it's supposed to do?
that's just a random google translation
I'm at level 126 and without any quests. Any suggestions?Please don't say grind WT F5
>>122236628
mage tower 5F
>>122236602
It knockbacks enemies you hit with Smite. And I guess it does 50% less damage. Or maybe it's 50% less physical damage only.
Dullahan event up on Gabija!
>>122236914
>Dullahan event again
Is there ever going to be, like, a kissing event on Gabija?
>>122237029
You fags are making me want to reroll on Gabija when I'm already 120 on Lemyna
>>122237029
i'll kiss you at dullahan
Wow this gens dead as fuck. What happened?
This game is really lacking in the voicing.
>>122237161
someone forgot to make new thread so no one is here
also people stopped playing cause wipe imminent
>>122236628
Grind Mage Tower F5 until you are level 130. Then do the level 130 dungeon and grind Mage Tower F5 until you are 137, then keep questing for like couple hours, then grind Demon Prison until you hate the game.
>>122236914
So world boss or does event refer to something else?
I've found I'm more likely to surrender a grind spot to female characters
>>122236914
IM STUCK LOADING TO FEDIMIAN
>>122237409
world boss, you need to kill 200 mobs to spawn it, hence event
>>122237475
it's fine, there's a lot of time before it will be killed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYEZicGUk8
Thinking on going Cleric > Krivis > Dievdirby > Sadhu C2 > Druid
Help
>>122238001
You should think about stopping.
>>122237161
they announced how pay2win as fuck the game is going to be and everyone got scared, they're lurking BnS now.
>>122238129
You can't stop the future.
>>122237894
Feel when playing with BMG volume at 0%
Does anybody know how to obtain wands? :
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/wand/?item_name=&order=rlevel&grade=All&stars=All&search=
>Dead thread on a friday night.
Fucking normies.
Anyone know where this well is? I can't find it.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/20287/
>>122238130
Huh? Link to pay2win please.
>>122238494
far mideast side of the map
>>122238643
Found it, thanks anon
>>122237894
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE ALRIGHT
PRISTINE MY LIFE
DON'T SAY ANYTHING
Speaking of other up and coming MMOs, what's the deal on BnS and BDO?
>buy 3 Multi Shot Gems
>it says you can equip it to shoes, but you can't
>okay.jpg
>put the other two on my bow
>skill only goes +1, and I have two gems on
Fuck this.
Could anybody ever put a monster gem on anything but weapon, after all?
>>122239090
shitty generic "action" mmos that will fail as usual
>>122238435
Maybe the majority of tosg posters were french?
Finally time for R5, do I go pirate or jew? Anyone gone hoplite c3 before?
Can someone who isn't a jew class tell me what they do for money? I feel like I've been strapped for cash this entire game and the arde dagger doesn't feel anywhere close to the amount of money I have right now.
>>122239175
I solo the level 90 dungeon with my Sorcerer and sell Arde Daggers for about 1m each.
>>122239303
I've been 35 times to that dungeon and never got a single dagger.
>>122239362
Tough luck, 2 daggers in 10 runs. Works for me.
>>122239303
Just like sell shit,I'm being serious here
>>122239170
You can jew now but not when live comes.
There will eventually be a huge surplus of jew classes of all kinds and the only sure fire way to gain decent money will go back to a good DPS that can hunt rare equipment.
Made an archer2/sapper yesterday, got it to 45, about to continue
How much pain am I in for?
Why does archer seem to do random fucking damage against bosses?
I ventilated necroventer and that other undead dude, but both times I've fought him, cyclops has taken ages. I don't get it.
>>122239090
BnS is pretty damn great. Give it a try, might not be everyone's thing but if you like action MMOs, it's fantastic.
>>122237161
Saw how easy as fuck to hack the game, lost motivation
>>122239471
bow mastery
>>122239492
I probably already missed the change to get into the CBT
>>122239471
The min/max damage of bows. Use xbows if you want consistency
>>122239471
shoulda gone c3 and get level 15 multi shot
>>122239665
Try it on release. Game is mature as fuck after being top MMO in Korea for so long, it's not going to change much.
>>122239492
Was Black desert online not supposed to be the superior one? With sandbox elements etc etc?
I had not heard any information regarding the two in a year or so, however I had assumed BnS hadn't done so well in korea, and was not very well received
> someone summoned monsters in lvl 50 dungeon
Is this maplestory? I had a good chuckle
>>122239471
If its a flier then 2H Bows melts the ever loving fuck out of the boss. Otherwise you have to use a Crossbow for consistency.
>>122239471
no idea either, some boss, like throneweaver is weak as fuck and others are tough as hell, probably because some boss are actually "small" size
>>122239170
I went Hoplite C3 before Doppel.
There's pretty much nothing new, your skills are simply more powerful.
It's completely worth it if you ask me though.
>>122239785
>sandbox
Oh how excit-zzzzzzzzz
>>122239785
BDO is the new one and has fantastic graphics, decent action, but they haven't put in much pve stuff yet.
Whatafuck
>>122239785
Black desert died in Korea its like 300th most played game in KR, while BnS is like 8th most played or something. LoL being first btw
>>122234787
How do you even find that shit?
>>122239901
Don't misunderstand I wont play a game simply because its popular or not, I didn't think BnS was so popular.
>>122239649
But they're not flying, I can hit them with stake stockades, thus they shouldn't receive 2x damage from shots.
>>122239752
My endgoal is at 2 sapper and schwarze (hahahahaha I'm never gonna reach/escape prison in time) so I could go archer3 for them bursts.
>>122239804
It shouldn't matter, through the power of money I'm using like a real nice +5 bow so even though I'm still incurring a penalty, it's halved.
The difference in damage shouldn't be so much.
I mean I killed necroventer 2 multi shots, a stake stockade, and maybe 1-2 obliques.
While I'd do maybe 15-20% of cyclops' hp with a multishot
>>122240000
all flying bosses still take dmg from skills that can't hit flying mobs.
also checked.
>>122240000
different archer/ranger skills do +50% damage against certain armor types, necro was weak to w/e multishot has the boost
So I installed Ollydbg and all it's plugins, analyzed the code.How do I bypass verification for CE?
>>122239170
There are a few of us who went Hoplite3. Depends what you want to end with at Rank 6, either Hoplite2->Corsair2 or Hoplite3->Doppel.
If you go Hoplite3, you only get Throwing Spear but higher levels of your current skills. If you go Corsair, you get the flag and Dust Devil which is a decent skill you can spam.
I think both options are pretty much equal in terms of power. The Corsair costume is so tempting though, but the Doppel one is nice too.
>>122240131
It's equal until corsair c2, then your dmg just skyrockets and it's like you're playing as a literal god.
Is it only me or is the fencers sept etoiles basically stabbing but shittier because you can only get 5 ranks in it, rank 10 stabbing has more dmg, less SP and better attributes?
How the fuck do I dismount as cata?
>>122240131
I kinda want fencer just for the costume but her skills look meh, sept etoiles looks like a gimped stabbing unless I'm missing something. Didn't we have a fencer in /tosg/?
>>122240235
stabbing only has enhance attribute though
and fencer doesn't have 3 circles yet, unlike hoplite, compare it to c1 hoplite instead if you must, fencer is obviously meant to be a more-than-1 circle class
>>122239785
BDO is as shallow as vindictus, but with open world and every enemy is a dumb punching bag like musou games.
So you can get an idea of why it failed.
>>122240089
How many lines of code does this game has?
>>122240385
stabbing has the evade attribute too 5% dodge and magic resist per point while stabbing
>>122240000
All bosses are able to be hit by ground only stuff even if they're flying for balance reasons aka to not fuck over classes like sapper or pyro. The 2x damage on flying monsters from bows still applies.
>>122232937
Please be SPR-dependant.
INTfag cleric lines get fucking everything.
I don't know if I should go pelt>barb or pelt>hoplite
>>122240524
oh right
i don't even have that levelled, i just use it when I'm not going to get hit, relying on rng to not have it cancelled isn't for me.
>>122240457
I honestly have no idea, this stuff is way too complicated for me. I just need to know the steps.
Just need to work on grinding another level 5 green gem for this baby.
>>122239170
>>122240235
>>122240385
I went with Doppel for R6 out of Hoplite C3. I don't regret it one bit because Cyclone is absolutely ridiculous. I mean ridiculous enough to match level 15 stabbing with 40% attribute bonus at just level 4.
Granted, it seems Cyclone always does slash damage, so the two aren't directly comparable.
>>122240215
That's only because there is not much data on Doppel yet.
Deeds of Valor can be absolutely insane.
>>122240089
What's CE?
Arch Rod guys. worth for 350k?
Where are the jewsluts when you need them.
I really need a gem roasted.
Marionette is about to be up on Gabija
>>122239090
BnS is really solid. I'll probably be playing that to get my pvp fix, and maybe ToS for grinding, if IMC shapes up.
>>122240953
I think I paid 50k for mine, but I'm still using it at 190
>>122240457
>lines of code
doesn't work like that anon~
>>122241010
No one ever wants to kill her lol
>>122241180
If you're going to tell me I'm wrong at least say why.
>>122240943
Cheat Engine.
>>122240978
I need more potions
Calling all silly hat alchemists
>>122241149
Wow. No better rod at 170+? i'm almost 120 and i'm dying to change my rod...
Marionette up on Gabija
>>122241271
My man, the "verification" is a meme. You can't trick the server to give you monies.
>>122241260
Not him, but reverse engineering doesn't give you the exact source code used by the devs.
Lines of code doesn't actually have any meaning anyway.
So open chest just increases your key level, meaning you can unlock shit with lv2 keys right?
>>122241260
1 line of code in a high level language is deconstructed into 1 or more opcodes, so its almost impossible to exactly know how many lines of code
>>122240457
Why do non-devs latch onto LoC as some indication of some kind of software metric? Is it because they're too stupid to understand anything else?
>>122241295
I want to bully Ayesha.
So I should save my level 6 cards?
til what level?
>>122241695
Nice projection, I just asked because I was wondering how big can games be.
Someone wanna toss me the address to buy shit in the AH with cheat money? I don't know how to Ollydbg it up like back in old school maplestory. I used to do it in Maple but there were guides on that shit.
>>122241763
It was just a question...
>>122241759
till 200
>>122241337
Particularly better and not from some boss, there's the Aston Rod, but the drop rate is atrocious and you can level perfectly well with a 120 rod, so there's no point unless you really want to spend more money upgrading another weapon and get lucky enough to drop it.
You can always farm miniverns and try getting the Dratt Rod, it's slightly better than the Arch one, but horrible drop rate.
Level 144
I don't think I can go on
I kinda want to go hoplie c3 then go into fencer, but I also really want a new costume like right now.
On what level do people usually reach rank 6?
What reason would someone have taking peltasta c2/c3 instead of just c1? Say for dopple, or fencer? Should i go for bigger taunt? Or is the basic 5point one good enough>?
>>122242005
shouldve saved those cards man
How many lv7 cards should I have if I didn't use any?
Want to make sure I didn't skip any quest.
>>122242115
Yeah use them at 144 so you can grind more later
>>122242365
149 according to nuno
I ended with 125 but I used a few, so I probably missed some, feels weird knowing I missed some.
Why is there no main quest after finishing up the Masoleum? Do I get it later on?
>>122242051
176 or so.
L1 L2 down arrow
Up to mount while being near and looking at your retarded squig
>>122242051
Bad idea.
All Fencer skills require a rapier.
Hoplite's most important skills require a spear.
Has nobody got any information regarding wands?
Are they a borkor and sorcerer only item?
This is gimmicky as hell. I suppose it doesn't even work against bosses.
So what do guys think about these, either hoplite c3 - fencer for maximum stab and pierce, maybe weapon switch to some spear for spear lunge or corsair c1 - fencer. That would give me stabbing, pierce, dust devil, meme flag, (open chest or whatev) plus Attaque Coquile and whatever on fencer?
Also we did have an fencer anon with benir right?
>>122242598
thanks
>>122242691
Pierce and stabbing dont require spears, you miss out on finestra and spear lunge is replaced with attaque coquille which does the same but with more damage and lower cd.
Debuff pierce resist, spam stab, pierce, sept etoiles,then cry in shame
>>122242902
Benire's Holy Attack applies to all your damage just like Arde Dagger if you were wondering about that.
>>122242883
>big head
hnggggggh I don't know why that makes me hard
is that the cheat engine shit? I don't want to get banned for some cosmetic change...
Alright how come the NPCs in Aqueduct Bridge (Recommended lv89) won't say more than a block of text to me (lv84), even though all the quests they have are lv89. On top of that, there's the one guy with the repeatable lv89 quest who gave it to me 5 times but the other fags won't give me muh cards.
>>122242902
Finestra is a core part of every Hoplite though.
Without those crits, all you'd have are decent skills with stupid long cooldowns.
Dievdirby is bugged as hell what the fuck
>>122242992
No I was wondering about his class build.
what is best path to fencer?
>>122243116
sword c2 / barb c3 / fencer
Is STR or DEX better for Priest C2. Going for Pala -> Monk. don't have the golden falchion
>>122243037
>is that the cheat engine shit
yee
>>122243113
If you're talking about Jinsee he went Sword 2/Highlander3/Fencer.
>>122242883
The knockback was annoying I turned it off
Finally found a blue monster at 159. It gave me a nice 30%.
It can only go downhill from here
>>122242902
Hoplite without Finestra isn't a good idea.
has anyone leveled the "Large Zombie" attribute for Bokor? how much better are the large zombies anyways? because regular zombeis are total crap, I tried all the stat builds possible and they keep feeling incredibly useless.
>>122242883
>>122243318
It's good for mob control situations, like quests with defend x target or to escape from large groups of enemies
>>122243364
Don't worry, it will.
>>122243546
Well, I don't want to chase after that mobs that got blown off
>>122243446
Literally everyone is jelly of my carousel of death.
Whaddaya going on about?
How exactly does the backstab attribute for rogue/corsair work. tosbase says it increases dagger dmg but you're never actually attacking with your sub weapon except when under the corsair buff right?
Does it actually just increase all your dmg as long as you have a dagger in your offhand and your stabbing at the enemies ass?
>>122243364
Considering 30% is about half an hour of farming I'd say it's pretty good.
>>122243083
pls respond
>>122243630
does carousel work for you on bosses too?
>>122243685
Man I sure am slow then, where can I get that xp plugin thingy again?
If I save all my lvl 7 and 8 cards, when can I leave the demon prison?
>>122243850
Did you seriously check all the NPCs? How many quests did you do there? Did you also collect all 4 parts of the Goddess statue to unlock a quest chain?
>>122243882
https://bitbucket.org/Excrulon/tree-of-savior-experience-viewer/downloads
You should get between 700k-1.7m at prison d2.
>>122244047
165
lmao....just found out kneeling shot being bad was just a meme...never trusting u nerds again
What cleric Class is the best to solo leveling and sustain?
i suck at parties because lag
>>122244184
any other than div
Are Galatunis weapons on this CBT2?
Where do you fight the bosses that drop them?
>>122244135
Fuck that. I'm not about to grind nonstop for a few days as an Archer in a beta.
>>122244151
people here also say that barbarians are shit at high levels
>>122244047
just do the math yourself. if you have enough cards you can skip part of the semen demon grind
http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
>>122244303
You could be a PoS and just AFK kneel shot in a group
>>122244303
If you have every card it's more like 163.
>out-of-party buff sharing
Not only shitters steal my mobs, but they also steal my buffs, so they can steal my mobs even more.
>>122244059
I found three of those things, do you need all four before those NPC give quests? I'll go probe around again.
>>122244357
Or just find somewhere to do that while sleeping. Get's me like 60%
>>122243095
>>122243379
But it's not like fencer would have access to it anyway. Just stacking all those pierce dmg skills on fencer sounds neat, but I'm too much of a pussy to try it. I think I'll go into corsair - so where are those bunny ears at? I'm gonna skill unlock chest to grab em then reskill.
>>122243667
You can attack with the dagger by pressing C you know. And there are skills that hit with the dagger like Corsair's Dust Devil and Hexen Dropper, and Rogue's Backstab.
>>122244467
Yes, just check the map again and a remark will appear, telling you to check the statue piece over there. If you have all four statue pieces, a quest chain will be initiated.
>>122244552
I know but who in their right mind would attack with their secondary weapon when not talking about skills that chain your shit. It just seems to me like the scaling would be very iffy because you'll probably don't see anything in the tooltips of hexendropper etc
>>122244520
reminder not to do this somewhere somebody would actually want to grind
>>122244047
>>122244135
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>>122244381
I left the prison at 165 with 123 lv7 cards and all lv8, but I still had to grind 185-186.
The prison isn't that bad.
>>122244764
So is kneel shot like a living turret or what?
>>122244151
>gives flat bonus damage and turns your DEX into +damage
>increases range
>one of the few attack speed boosts in the game
>+20% crit attribute
>stacks with kneeling shot crit buff
>does it for free
Not like there's anything else in the skill tree you need those points for. 15 in Multi Shot, 10 in Swift Step, 1 in Oblique Shot, 5 in Twin Arrows. 14 points left between Heavy shot (maybe for the slow, and that's a big maybe) full draw (eh) and free... damage?
Not a hard conclusion to reach.
>>122243870
Sadly, it's shit for most bosses. Every once in a while, I get one who goes down in like 10 seconds because its size & that it's not an area-denial spamming cunt.
But sadly, I typically must do it the "proper" way.
>>122244552
Just wanted to say that dagger pierce is really useful, sometimes even more useful than you main weapon. Just alternate Z and C to combo and check what inflicts more damage. Damage calculation is ridiculous with sub weapon, sometimes it does 90 dmg more than my main weapon which has like 184-210 PHY.ATK.
this beta is bugged as hell. I've ascended to heaven three times today, couldn't actually get the shit I bought from the market (twice) and ther occasional ipf memery
>>122244764
Afk grinders are the worst.
>>122244879
It increases their auto attack range and when a monster gets closed they autolock it.
Basically a POS/Botter dream. They just macro Z and go away.
>boy these Vikaras Cores really have shit drop rates
>I'll just check the market
>10,000 each and rapidly climbing
Demon prison is arguably one of the best parts of the game.
The community in the prison whilst levelling is highly reminiscent of a "school" like setting, wherein you have people from a set range of levels all slowly levelling up to reach a certain goal.
The higher levelled players will graduate the prison and in turn you will meet new lower levelled players that join as you spend time inside.
Not to mention for the amount of time you will spend there, you will get to know and meet quite a lot of people due to being forced to party to make progress. This is due part to the lack of channels so essentially everyone must party and share a room.
This essentially means when you log off and log back on to continue grinding you will see these same people as yesterday and continue to party up with them and new players, fostering a small community for your time spent there.
Also creating 'cliques' aka 'those groups' that you will see, is interesting.
It also helps you get to know other classes from a party perspective and how useful they will be. Of course... this can be done in dungeons, but because of the huge amount of time you might spend with one party in one session in the prison (3-8 hours) it becomes easier to distinguish the bad players from the good, and you know what distinguishes good classes from the useless ones. It also helps you learn what classes synergize with others to an extent.
Also "sorcerer afkers and other prison frequenters" that you will get to know whilst there will make your life miserable when you realize that your party is now inefficient because the sorcerer afking with his summon in the back of the room is slowing down your exp gain. But you have no choice but to continue on due to the other rooms being full.
Truly a one of a kind experience.
I'm sure other players here can share their tales
>>122244990
Is that summon .. THAT strong?
>>122245039
I grinded maybe 1 level at prison and the rest at bee farm
I wouldn't mind prison if it wasn't such a shit looking area ontop of having shitty performance, 20 fps is not fun
>>122244764
I'd probably die to the mobs there anyway. Putting a weight on the z key is the extent of my "botting" expertise.
>>122232782
fuck me in the ass why don't you
>>122244724
Pierce weak enemies when your main weapon is a slash type. Arde dagger's physical attack is shit, but that's why there's the meme dagger 2.0, Karacha Dagger. The other daggers probably aren't worth using, and Hoplites won't attack using the dagger except with Double Weapon buff.
>>122245134
Well it melts lv188 monsters instantly, so I'd say yes.
>>122245039
I honestly kind of like Demon Prison.
Everyone teaming together to help each other out.
The lag is really bad though, when I switch weapons I lock up for a couple seconds.
>>122245039
Did you graduate?
I am lv137 right now and I fear my transferring to the Demon Prison. I mean, I am just a Squire.
>>122244879
I've yet to test it, but I've heard that kneel shot isn't that good if you have a high ping. I'm from SA and can't see the difference between using kneel shot and attacking normally on Gabija
