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TAKE YOUR FUCKING TURNS edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE (embed)

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.

There is no functional, up-to-date pirate version.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the pastebin
>Read the memes

>I want to play X
Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man

Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor

Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod

Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca

Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum

Edgy Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
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first for ded
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Second for actually making the thread in time.
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Nth for shitty Rlyeh shitposting with his shitty anime images.
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I've had an idea for a game ever since I saw this picture in the general, but I'd like to see if anyone would be interested first.


A triathlon game.

Basically, three consecutive games (one EA, one MA, one LA) in which you play the same nation (or a descendant nation, see picture) in all games. It'd be a bit of a commitment because it would mean joining three games at once, but I think it would be pretty cool.
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>>122209737
It'd be better if they were simultaneous instead of consecutive.

If you make them consecutive it'll not only take much longer before the whole thing is finished (which means a bigger chance of people getting bored or otherwise quitting), you'll also get people who die early on and then have to wait months before the next one starts.
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>>122209737
>It'd be a bit of a commitment
M8, roughly 33% of players go AI on turn 10 or something.
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>>122209731
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>>122210471
I do have a feeling. A feeling that you're coming dangerously close to avatarfagging, which will grant you permaban.
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>>122210559
I'm sorry images trigger you, mate, but they're just that. It would be avatarfagging if I used them EVERY time I made a post, but I don't.

Also, unless something's changed recently and I'm not aware of it avatarfagging != permaban.
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>>122210882
That's pretty much confirmed by mods at this point.

Anyway, just don't be obnoxious, please.

AND DISPEL YOUR NEXUS, OR I'LL FUCKING STAB YOU, I SWEAR ON ME MUM.
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>>122211054
Alright, alright, I'll tone it down a bit. Just havin' some fun though.

NO
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>>122209737
for what purpose. it adds nothing to the game, aside for the fact it will take a century to find few people willingly to join 3 games at once.
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>>122211054
I've never heard of it being against the rules before, honestly.

Also, if he's playing in other games and only using the character for his R'lyeh game, I don't see any problem with it. He's already identifying himself for the game that he's in, and the pictures often serve as a relevant reaction image.

Yes, I realize that I am explicitly encouraging an animeposter. May pankoman have mercy on my soul.
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>>122211624
For what purpose do we play Dominions at all?

Because it's fun.
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>>122212165
http://www.4chan.org/rules

Fuck off.
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>>122208281
That'd be a bit silly then. There are about 50 gem-events related to magic/drain scales. This is generous, since it includes several unique events, nation-only events, and about a dozen events that are dependent on other scales as well (luck, heat, death, generally).
Given there are 7 different settings for magic/drain scales, one step in magic scales unlocks about 7 new magic events. There are literally hundreds of different events. Magic scales unlock a tiny fraction of them.

This is true even when considered in the limited area of gem-events, of which there are about 150, IIRC. A 5% increase in gem events is not worth 40 points on its own.
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>>122211624

I'd do it.
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>Kailasa still waiting for turn
Damn, we were going fast for once after 2 weeks of no fast turns allowed, but then someone decided not to.
;_;
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>>122212654
>>122196356
calm down
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>>122212654
>Turn 33
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>>122212369
New guy but calling it a 5% increase isn't exactly honest, as the good/bad event effect has a way bigger effect than the 5% event chance, and listing the number of events isn't that relevant because event chances aren't equal. I know you mentioned uniques but common vs uncommon is more relevant.

Your conclusion is true, and even the implied conclusion of 'the gem increase alone isn't worth the cost of luck scales' is mostly true, but your argument isn't sound. Valid, but unsound.
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>>122212369
>>122214997
Also, doesn't high magic scales also affect how many gems you get per event, not just the number of gem events?
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>3 years worth of luck

I'm just gonna gear some retarded looking dust king down the line, I guess.
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>>122217841
I know them feels.
I got 2 lightless lanterns a flame helmet and some shit.
also maybe 20-30 gems.
luck a shit.
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>>122218789
I'm actually swiming in gems. Something like 15-20 gems from luck per turn at this point.

Those items are junk though. Literally what's the point.
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>>122219010
On the one hand it makes sense that they patched out the chance of getting artifacts through luck events.

On the other hand, most of the stuff you do get is awful.
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>>122219010
the crown and skull talismen have uses if you've got vine ogre summoners or assassin respectively. The shield you can just throw on a commander to give he a little better protection from random arrows.
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>>122217841
What I end up doing is equiping the indies I use to make forts with.

>>122219213
Makes a good point about two of the items though.
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>>122215542
Scales affect which events are unlocked, and the higher gem events require higher magic. So in other words, you get an event from a list of 25 events instead of 20 events, and the 5 extra events give more gems (simplifying, but that's how it works)
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>>122219313
I get that, but I think the amount of gems you get is also affected.

Like, you can get the same event (for example the troll cave, or the one where you buy gems for 1 gold), but instead of getting like 5-10 gems you get 15-25 and an item.
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>>122218789
>>122217841
i got 3 mages with paths and gems not native to my nation(which together brought me to depth 2 of each before boosters), one silver mine, 3 free labs, a shower of all gems, among which 30 earth gems, a thousand and a gold, an army of shitty monsters( no upkeep!).
items were crappy: no booster, but a wraith crown is worth 40 death gems so it can't be shit. a couple of crappy sword and a bow and misc items such as slave collar. notable mention fire in a jar, clam of pearls and the item that summon 3 vine men for one of my assassins.

and that's only the first 26 turns!

also my neighbour donated me 2 tower of the silver order and one desert of Sigh. they just happen to let me recruit mages with exactly all the paths my nation doesn't have.
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>>122219541
There are duplicate events, eg for "The Lair of a hideous troll has been found" there's three events, one requires at least magic 1, one requires magic 2 and the last magic 3.
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ULM SHALL NOT FALL

BRING YOUR WORST, BAT-HERETICS!
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>>122222346
Autumn wind of eve,
blow away the clouds that mass
over the moon's pure light
and the mists that cloud our mind,
do thou sweep away as well.
Now we disappear,
well, what must we think of it?
From the sky we came.
Now we may go back again.
That's at least one point of view.
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THEY COME

WE ARE READY

READY FOR A FINAL BATTLE

READY TO DETERMINE THE FATE OF OUR CHILDREN

READY TO MAIM, CRUSH AND KILL UNTIL WE OURSELVES FALL

COME THEN, BEAST-MEN

COME, BETRAYING, BACKSTABBING BROTHERS

LET US FINISH THIS FARCE

LET US FIGHT LIKE MEN INSTEAD OF COWERING IN THE SHADOWS OF FORESTS AND VALES, WITH KNIVES BEHIND OUR BACKS READY TO STAB WHERE THE FLESH IS WEAK

LET THE WORLD SEE THE MIGHT OF ULM

LET THE WORLD WATCH THE GIANT DIE AT THE HANDS OF A THOUSAND BATS

LET THE WORLD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, AND LET FLOW PLENTY BLOOD BEFORE THE END COMES

WE HAVE LONG ACCEPTED DEATH, BATS. HAVE YOU?
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Still confident of yourself, Marignon?
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>>122222529
I'll take 145 and leave you 4 but after this turn Bogarus+Jews will have cut me off from Elves.
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>>122223257
Don't you have some blackstale to forge, Ulm?
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>>122224170
Greeeeaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt
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>>122223994
Given how frequently MA C'tis seems to be played poorly (based both on games that I've been in and the the results from sum1's poll), it warms my heart to see a nation that I both love and consider strong kicking ass and taking names.
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>>122224284
It's okay I stopped 1 fort and sieged another before it got more than a turn of units out. He's essentially down to his cap ring and a handful of outlying provinces.
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>>122217841
>>122218789
>do a test SP game with good luck scales
>get shit tons of free items and lots of gold discovered with some nice gem events
>go into MP game
>get an early hero and a bezerker pelt

such is the life of luck but I love it anyway because I HATE the event that auto kill your province because "the people tier of your oppressive rule!"
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>>122225685
I'm more bemoaning my fate, Lemuria went from decent due to boxing me in and refusing to honour our deal about water provinces.
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>>122226213
*decent dude
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>>122226601
>trusting anyone
>especially trusting ghost romans
Alas not-japan, you had too much HONORUUUUUUUUU
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>>122226091
An early hero can be a pretty valuable asset depending on which hero it is.
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>>122227185
it worked out well during my game with MA nazca, but it's pretty useless when playing Jomon and I get the leader of the Red samurais, though he is cool as hell
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>tfw I fail with any other nation except Ermor

Why am I such a scrub?
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>>122227425
if you have trouble with a specific nation outside ermor, ask and we could nudge you in a direction that would help you. After all I think most newbie players suffer the most in the mid-midlate game since most don't really know how to think about what magic to research in the long term
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>>122226907
Yeah, yeah.....
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Xibalba, how attached are you to Slaves Halls?
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What's the best way to deal with powerful undead?
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>>122233726
kill them
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>>122233726
If they are by their lonesome, Ravenous Swarm is pretty good.
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>>122233726
Solo - Herald Lance or similar x3 damage to undead weapons are amazing. The damage is multiplied before protection
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>>122233402
you can get it, since you need it to get to the other provinces to the south.
but I'm capturing some provinces on the east of that, I think there are enough to share and be friends and all of that.
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Here's the battle report, as promised -

The reason that he came out ahead should be quite clear, given the sheer number of mages that he brought. We'll have a Rain of Stones party in the Sinks next turn, and they're all invited.

Also, a number of my troops ended up retreating to the province from which their attack originated, since I had a dusk elder take it intending to hit one of his Marble Oracles. They'll be taking the fury road home through Agartha's forts.
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>>122233726
Solar Rays or Dust to Dust
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>/domg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPZATNNrxqE
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fate_stale_night

New LA PBEM. join up nerds

shitters who AI early/stale/can't do turns in a timely fashion please stay out

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/496881136909691988/

post in the steam thread with your nation if you join

anonymous pretenders will be removed
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Also check out this guy's cool stats.
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>>122241315
Well that's cool and all but he's not mindless and he's undead
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>>122241684
Yeah, he's not invulnerable by any means (17 MR is pretty low) but 33 defense is pretty awesome. He can dance through an army, dodging everything like the ghostly ninja he is.
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>>122241824
>an army
You mean one that has no mages
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>>122241940
It depends on the mages and the scripting
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>>122242096
Wraith lords can be paralyzed by petrify, can still be targeted by leech/blood, can still be killed by ravenous swarm, can still be hurt by cleansing waters or liquify, can be killed by enough fire evos or elementals if he doesn't have high enough fire res, and can still be stunned by t-strikes or air elementals. That's not mentioning what death or astral can do to him.
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One for the new thread

A EA game with a fixed start for all 30 nations on an alternate earth. Shotgun Australia.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=All_Yesterdays
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any chance of blitz tonight? it's Friday night after all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTLR81skYY
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IT BEGINS
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>>122243258
>those titles
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>>122243258
>King of Unexpected Pleasure and Sorrow

Oh my~
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>>122243258
Bane?
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>>122243258
>Bane of men
>Fighting against the bats
The fire rises.
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>>122243676
But I'm not fighting against bats
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>>122243258
was getting imprisoned a part of your plan?
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>>122243258
>Bane
now's not the time for thrones, that comes later
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>>122226213
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/121156245/#121263878
This deal? Nothing was really agreed upon. I said we could probably come to an agreement a bit later not "I will surrender these provinces to you posthaste and for free." I didn't agree to anything in game either you just sort of marched underwater with your fish god and took two of my income provinces.
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>>122243258
i bet i know what your tower of strength is ;)
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>>122243730
It comes later.
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>>122243258
Big guy detected
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>>122242241
>>122241940
>>122241940
new guy, but it's a bit between what you two are saying. They aren't one of the best MCs (being nonunique and not requiring cross paths this shouldn't be surprising) and even most MCs have counters from most magic paths now.

If the mages aren't properly scripted they won't take down the wraith lord. and about half the things mentioned in among the counters apply to any SC, even the immune to most things golem, and some the wraith lord actually is better able to counter.

That said, outfitting for defense buff seems silly, and not what the wraith lord could benefit from. improving MR, protection and elemental resists are better. Unless he's got something preventing attacks, he could easily get 10+ attacks per turn on him, which means he'd be be at def 13 by the end and getting some hits. High defense is best for massed troops and light thugs who won't be surrounded as often.
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How do I survive a turn 12 w9 n9 centaur orgy as EA Ulm?
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>>122245157
>EA Ulm
Just stale him to death.
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#JustPanThings
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Can you resubmit a pretender as simply as you can a turn? I finally found the god I wanted.
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>>122246809
yeah. Just send the updated pretender and if it's from the same e-mail, it'll update to the new one
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JOIN

THIS

GAME

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

SEE IF YOU CAN WIN THE GREATEST MEME SINCE FLATUS
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>>122246057
Save them for dispel, one of the fish nations is going to BoT.
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>>122247126
no thanks.
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>>122247126
so you mean you'll shut the game down in anger after losing one battle?
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>>122246057
Is this stalewarriors? because if so I need all of those.
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>>122246809
As long as it's for the same nation, yes.

If you want to change nation you need to get the admin to remove your previous choice.
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>>122246875
>>122248397
Thanks guys it was so same nation so no problem
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>>122247974
What do you need goatmom's pearls for? And what do you have to offer in return?
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>>122249085
>trusting goats not to fuck up everything
Fuck off
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>>122249085
Just save them for dispel, seriously. Water is basically Death 3 shitfest, somebody is bound to press the red button.
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>>122245993
Are there any other tactics I could employ? Earth Meld? Strength of Giants? Making the centaur enraged? I cannot physically bring myself to stale.
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>>122249543
Earth meld
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>>122249407
>Implying I have anything that can cast dispel
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>>122249085
pretty much just gold and Water gems at this point.
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>>122249649
How the hell do you have so much s but no dispel capabilities.
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>>122236218
Yeah, I see you.I do need more non-cave gold producing provinces, but at this point I have surface access in a few uncolonized spaces so I'll let it go.
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>>122250218
>I want more than my 1000 cave provinces :(

Fuck off faggot. You chose the cave nation, now stick to your fucking caves.
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>>122234691
>>122236060
Let's say they also have a lot incorporeal higher-tier underlings.
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>>122249757
How rude of you to ask!! I have my ways.
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>>122251214
B-but my gold...
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>>122252150
Everyone is already starving. Go buck to your fucking caves REEEE
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>>122252150
this desu senpai >>122252401
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>>122252401
I'm very happy with my gold income actually. Dem farms dough.
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>Global event increases death by 1
>Started ages ago still hasn't ended
>New global event increases death by 2
>Literally all of my growth-neutral lands are now death 3

What the fuck senpai
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>>122254239
>he thinks scale events end
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>>122255053
So did everyone who didnt take death lose 120 design points permanently?
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>>122256204
Your scales compensate for it eventually as far as I know. In the same way that your scales compensate for things like sites.
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>>122256204
They are one time kind of thing that gets fixed by dominion like every other kind of event.
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>No turns
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Under the guise of anonymity:
How many games have you abandoned or gone AI in, /domg/?

Just one here.
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>>122256204
Nigger, Growth 3 minus 3 is only 0, not -3. You're a lot better off with growth than death.
It'll also go away with dominion.
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>>122258271
Not a single one except for the game where I've been the biggest player, half of the map was AI and my last remaining competition started stalling. I just figured i've won that or something and quitit.
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>marshmasters are not sacred
Thank god
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How do you deal with Bogus & Friends? Sheer numbers? Will a handful of mages be enough to wreck them?
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>>122260323
Stellar Cascades or skelespam works
They aren't even that tough.
Be sure to have a bunch of commanders around so you can loot them.
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>>122217841
>>122218789

The key is to take luck with order. That way you get the actual best of both worlds.

If you're not losing hard, you'll likely max out the 4 events/turn anyway.
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>>122225685
>>122224284

Being invaded on literally every front

Killing scads of jews, russians, japanese

Invaded by 100 fire griffins

GOD IS GREAT
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>>122260378
this make me wonder: how does looting work?
is it guaranteed as long as i have commanders with slots? is it a straight %chance for item? or a %chance of commander with open slot
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>>122246057
>>122247974
>>122249085
>wait a lot of turns
>spam transformation +gifth of health/chalice on pans
>cast 4 armageddon ( if you have no caster just send gems to the right nation)
>be the only one ( or one of the few) with tons of good upkeep free casters in a ruined world that is at war with fishes and undeads.
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>>122258564
>>122258271
i only quit Scrubadubdub when basically everyone went AI/chainstaling
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>>122261962
it's not literally 100 griffins. I just wish it was.
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>Tfw no modern day Dominions where you recruit terrorists and suicide bombers to spread Jihad
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>>122247126
There seems to be something wrong with that map. When I try to test it, it tells me it can't find any legal start positions.
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>>122263470
Land nations only, 12 players max
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>>122250218
sure? i don't care at all about slave memeland
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Get your damned dirty feathers outta my sea, Craplump
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>>122264089
What did I tell you about birds?
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>>122264089
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Show me your inbox, /domg/
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>>122263470
Set everyone at land nations, nerd, and test it. And join MP. I am sick and tired from waiting.
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>>122265262
>And join MP
No.
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>>122265359
What a fucking pussy...
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>>122265420
There's no need to be upset.
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>>122265420
this isn't about fear it, about not wanting you to have your game or to do anything to support it.
This is retreat, this is an attack. We will not join your game.

Be glad that we've moderated ourselves to just actively not joining. We could join then go AI first turn just to spite you.
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Okay, this is what happens when I try to load my turn.

I suspect that it happened because the admin changed the mod file from Cataclysm to /domg/clysm.

Suggestions?
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>>122266278
This is a very old and very well-known bug. It always happens with mods that replace all nations, like Cataclysm or Nationgen.

The easiest way to fix it is to first load a game using a different mod, exit that, and then load the Cataclysm game.
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>>122266278
load one of your other normal games and try to exit in various ways ( save and exit/exit without save) then load the crapacylsm game. try this enough times and it will eventually work. enjoy do this every turn.
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>>122266380
Thanks, anon. You're the best.

Never happened to me in other Cataclysm games for some reason.

Also, the memes went too far today.
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>>122266565

>mfw I'm Grey and the game starts on the day of a major terrorist attack
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>>122266565
>only two other players picked a name based on their color

I'm disappoint.
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>again only 14 hours and 14/17 turns in
i could get used to this feel
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Silly AI is silly.
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>>122268040
>bless rushing the AI
For what cause?
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I also don't know what Ermor was trying to achieve with this.
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>>122268119
If that's human designed, I assume that he was trying for a full scales build with an awake expander.
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>>122267771

>implying I didn't

I'm the Grey Emirate, mate.
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>>122268837
Terrorism isn't a color.
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>>122268909
>EMIRATE
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>>122266565
>VASUDAN ACE

Is that a FreeSpace reference?
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>>122268982
Yes
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>>122268953
That's not a color either.
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Wait.

Did they increase the sprite resolution again?
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>>122269229
It seems like they did for some pretenders.
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How?
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>>122270598
You don't need to take minor blesses on Lemuria, anon. Just take the paths up to the level that you actually want it to be for your spells / forging.
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>>122270645
Better? Or should I take Luck 2 instead of Dom 8? Luck 0?
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>>122270598

>1 luck

Take 3.
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>>122270882
But I don't want to sacrifice all those sweet paths!
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>>122270953

Then sack the magic scales. Luck is too important for MA Ermor and Lemuria.
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>>122270878
>>122270953
Ask yourself what, exactly, you want to do with each path, and then level it up to exactly the point that you need for the spells and items that you want (including boosters, where applicable)
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fate_stale_night

join up. 6 spots open

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/496881136909691988/

post your nation in there

anonymous pretenders will get deleted
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>>122271284
fuck off steamshitter
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>>122271284
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>>122271583
>>122271448
>>>/gsg/
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I really wish Death had a tempgem item available like Astral or Earth...
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>>122271895
>Temporary death gems
>Can cast those overpowered as fuck spells FOR FREE

If you want Ermor/Lemuria to win EVERY game, why not
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>>122272473
>death is the only path with strong spells
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>>122272548
The single strongest battlefield Evo 5 spell, and it only requires D2 to cast.
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>>122272669
So you can cast one free MR Negates evo per battle. That's pretty much nothing, especially compared to schools like Earth and Astral which do get tempgems and have spells that can change the tide of battle in a single cast.
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>>122272771
None of those spells are available at level 5 schools, and all of them require a communion, geared mage or having a nation built around them (foul vapors)
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>>122272669
It's pretty underwhelming when countered though.

Especially by a simple Ghost Candle, Will-of-the-Wisps or Howl. Or by one turn 1 flying unit.

But yeah, Wind of Death and similar stuff will wipe you the fuck out from the face of this Earth if you're playing against spooky nations.
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>>122272848
Yes, and?

Saving one gem (and not even that, considering you pay the construction cost up front) on a straight forward evocation that might get resisted or evo-catched really isn't going to change anything. Even if that spell was as OP as you're making it out to be, you could achieve the same thing just by giving your mage one D gem.
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>>122265618
You are just scared to play the game with an interesting rules. You are too closed-minded and your scrubbery won't allow you to succeed.
Go on, join and then go AI ut will make me win easier, and you'll be just salty looser, as always.
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>>122273035
Yeah, to add on to this - temporary gems are more about convenience than power. The clam of pearls is useful because you want to be able to cast your antimagic/doom etc every battle without needing to restock and without a magic phase being able to cancel it out.
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>>122273547
>and without a magic phase being able to cancel it out.
I'm pretty sure temporary gems are per month, not per battle.
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ded
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>>122266278

The others answering this are fools. Enter ANY game with mods, then exit, and this one will work.

Alternatively, enable any mods that modify nations, press 'create game', then 'cancel', then the game will appear when you next try to open it.

I simply do cata/nationgen games last. Generally by then i've activated games with mods first, so they work.
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>>122268982

Freespace 2, actually.

The vasudan ace lives on in memory. That absolute badass.

>>122270152
>>122269229

The pretender update had some redraws. The Vamp Queen is very noticeably better.
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>>122277882
>The others answering this are fools.
>proceeds to give the same answer as those others

Why are anime posters always retards?
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>>122278068

Yeah, because this guy >>122266471 acting like it's some mysterious shit is really helpful. And the other guy not mentioning the create game/cancel which is the quickest and most reliable way to make mods actually load.

Also, that's fucking Exalted mate. Show some respect.
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>>122278246
Exalted is juvenile powerwank: the rpg, so no respect is due even is that was Exalted. Which it isn't, since it's just TTGL with a shitty Exalted tagline added. But then, TTGL is juvenile powerwank: the anime, so I guess it fits.

Stop being a retard.
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Sometimes I keep forgetting I'm not on /tg/. Thanks, /domg/.
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>>122278553

Exalted is one of the few games that doesn't just slap a set of shitty stats onto an existing mythology or fictional universe, and instead does a bit of a mash-up, like dnd back in the day. In this stale ttrpg future, it was a breath of fresh air. Even if it had gaping flaws.

TTGL is tightly written, and drawn well, even if it is as retarded as the vast majority of anime. It's no mushishi, but it's at least got some epic moments that vast majority of the genre doesn't even begin to reach.
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>>122278778
>It's no mushishi
Oh god. Now you're going to say that it's a good anime, don't you?
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>>122278778
So you know almost nothing about roleplaying games or anime, and just like these because they're extremely entry-level but not quite mainstream enough to offend your hipster sensibilities?

That's cool.
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>>122278919
>extremely entry-level
Kek.

I don't know what you mean by non-mainstream anime, but I'm pretty sure you're that kind of fag that likes Saya no Uta and every harem shit there is.

Not that guy you're talking to, by the way.
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>>122279071
>Oh no, the thing I like is dumb!
>I'm just going to pretend everyone else likes even worse things, so I don't have to feel bad about myself!

That's just sad, Anon.
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>>122279179
You don't even know what I like, friend not that much, to be honest. The thing is, "entry-level" is a phrase that /a/ fag enablers use to describe their fetishy "Onee-chan desu ugu~" shit.

Again, I'm not the Vikings guy.
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>>122279265
No, entry-level means it's highly accessible and well-liked by people who are unfamiliar or ignorant of the genre.

Insisiting on turning such a simple and straight-forward term into some kind of strawman offense and making up random bullshit about other people just to make them look even dumber than yourself just puts your crippling insecurity issues on full display.
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>>122278893

Doesn't have enough magical girls for you?

>>122278919

I know far, far too much about roleplaying games. They're my obsession and interest.

And that's why i'm 100% sure your objections are based around grognardy elitism rather than any actual conception of design or fun. Exalted is popular, aka 'entry-level' in retard speak, because it's good. People like it because it is, or was, innovative and fun.

>>122279071
>>122279265

That's been pretty much my experience of /a/.
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-> /a/

Are there even good "inaccessible" anime titles? It's like saying that MLP can only be enjoyed by a selected few while it's just a fucking cartoon for kids.

DO YOUR TURNS, FAGGOTS.
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I've made a small CLI tool for managing Llamaserver games. Looking for some Linux / Mac people to try it out. Mac especially, since I don't own one and couldn't test on it.
dom4tools.net
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>>122279691
Please, do an online pretender designer. That would be easy to do, and also the best thing ever.
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>>122279684
>Are there even good ... anime titles?
no
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>>122279493

>unfamiliar or ignorant of the genre.

Pretending your insult and claim of elitism isn't any of those things, because someone called you on it, is intellectual dishonesty of the highest order.

Honestly it's my fault. I engaged with an autist who didn't get the basic joke of the post, and then actually seriously replied to their self-aggrandizing bullshit. Way too long since i've posted on tg, I forgot how butthurt tg nerds are. That there's simultaneous fatbeard /a/ outrage as well just makes the shit smoothie even worse.
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>>122279684
Depends on what you mean by inaccessible. Stuff like Mononoke is fucking fantastic, but it's weird, slow-paced, and requires at least a passing knowledge of Japanese mythology, so most "entry-level" anime fans probably won't like it (unless they somehow confuse it with Mononoke Hime).
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>>122279857
>I realise I'm a paranoid idiot, but I'm just going to pretend I was being insulted so I can act like it's a moral victory
>I'm also just going to give up on pretending I wasn't samefagging

Just pathetic.
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>>122280032
He wasn't samefagging though. It was me. But I realized that arguing with you on the board dedicated to videogames would be silly.
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2scrubs people do your turns.

Don't be like me and forget about the time
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>2 more left for stalewarriors
>they are water nations
uw scrubs always disappoint me even further
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>>122279754
Not easy for me, web design is not my forte.
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>>122282434
Who cares about web-desing. Just write some tables in Basic or something.
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>>122268119
ermor needs scales, everything else is optional. Ermor is a very versatile nation in that they are pretty self sufficient with their own magic, anything else you can open up either through summons, indie mages, or pretenders is merily another layer to your strategy
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>he actually has first turn RoS amd enslave minders even in the most bakrow shitty province

it's a nightmare.
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>>122283127

HELLO BAT! I have warm welcome for you everywhere! - with love, Ulm.
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Also TC my friend you want A in return or F or W?
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Is earthquaking with an earthsnake a good idea?
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>>122283286
>>122283127
When will the obscene abuse of bats stop?
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>>122283286
f-fuck you. also fuck those scammy events.
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>>122283434
Air would work best.
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>>122283541
EQ is litterally 8 Armor piercing damage and your snake probably has around 16 protection at worst so unless you are in like 9-10 black candles he should take no damage.
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played first multiplayer game with a friend recently
i was ma ermor and he was agartha

he had like 150 units in one of his armies, he's not big on rts but im impressed how well he played

i had 3000 skeletons in one army at one point

my question is how do you actually play ermor?
cause all i did was expand, let population die off, make a billion spectators for research and went around picking up new units with other commanders

is there like a right way to play them? it felt very braindead desu
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>>122285934
you dummp all the scales but luck and maybe magic, you need high dominion.
with the points you either get an awake pretender which can summon your better mages and then either expand or research.

after that you use your good mages to do stuff while protected by thousand of shitty undeads.
lictors are summonable elite troops but you need a decent bless. a good bless for ermor must include either nature or death ( most likely death :D) because your free spawned knights only have 8 hp.

you can also have a dormant or imprisoned god and take 3 major blesses ( try N9D9W9 or some shit like that) or 2 major + 1 minor. N) is good because it lets them regen hp and they can't do that without a laboratory.

in case you don't have an awake god with high death magic you need to wait 3 turns and then empower in death magic one of your spectators.

Dominions 4 is about casting the right spells with your mages, possibly hunting for ways to get mages with even more different paths, while also having some troops, so definitely dragging thousand of undeads around the map isn't all Ermor's gameplay, but when playing against noobs or AI you don't even get to try to get the most our of your mages.
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this map is a lot more crowded than I thought it was going to be.
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>>122283286
>>122283127
Ulm is literally fighting a vietnam war right now.
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I have some fire gems I don't really need right now, does someone have some blood slaves to give me? I also have some death gems.
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Hinnom, are you going to help Arco to avoid he gets buttfucked by Mictlan?
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>>122287545
>not blood hunting more
>implying turning 10 fire gems into gold wouldn't be a permanent blood hunting station for you
>implying you don't need more lanterns for research
>implying you shouldn't turn all your death gems into spectres or other valuable summons
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>>122287673
I'm just establishing the foothold in the region and shipping things there. I've also got no idea what exacty is mictlan using, how strong he is in general and such.
Gimme some turns to sort out my shit in the area (and in general) and the answer will be maybe.
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>>122287784
Xibalba is pretty much a wasteland shithole with little to no bloodhunting provinces.

Entire north is.

The nations that are going to have some real large scale bloodhunting in this game are all set up in the middle of the map, i'd say, where rich provinces are plentiful.
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>>122288438
pfahaha, fucking bullshit map.
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>>122288438
>Berytos has plenty of great bloodhunting provinces
>stales and goes AI for no reason
>is right next to Xibalba, so bats can just eat all his shit
>mfw
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>>122267771
>implying Faggot Bruce doesn't have everything to do with pink.
I am renaming every commander after a gay. Every. Single. One.
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>>122285934

Your 3000 skeletons would die in extremely short order against 30 h1 priests and a line of blockers, or a single Fire Storm.

Ermor can only be played that way against noobs.

That you're thinking in terms of numbers of units, rather than battlefield clear>chaff>single target evo>SCs>battlefield clear means you haven't gotten into the meat of the game yet.

The two canonical ways to play Ermor to victory is either

a) Take a heavy bless for your Lictors, and focus on getting as many of them out as you can. Ideally some kind of B9+stuff.

b) Use the undeads as raiders and chaffs and get enough research and boosters to use Dusk Elders to drop the big D 'fuck you' spells like Bone Grinding and Wailing Winds and Wind of Death and so on to just annihilate people that bring undead counters to the field.
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>>122287784
i'm kind of a noob and don't really know how to spend my gems... sorry for that...
but
>conj6
>con6

I don't even have that yet damn.
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>>122289441
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>stalewarriors admin says the game should go fast
>goes slow instead
Probably colluding with the other fish.
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>>122289737
You can also play a pretender-focused Ermor. Especially with some cool immortal dude and S6/rainbow build. Sould Drain is a hell of a drug, and S6 basically gives you nice late-game tools. Rainbow also gives you more gems earlier, whic means that you'll be pretty diverse when the mid-game comes.

Also, Ermor really needs indie mages for research. The whole "no research" myth is false, but indies really help to speed things up, especially with imprisoned tri-bless god.
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>>122289842
Point at this fag and laugh.
He even has cheap set ups for mages (cave+temple+lab or lab+palisades).
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>>122289943
Th-thanks R'lyeh I always knew you were a cockgobbler.
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>>122290213
I'm Marverni, even though I'm Therodos in a couple of other games doesn't mean I'm thed here. Also, I was third doing my turn this time, up yours.

Game name: Stalewarriors
Nation: Early Era Marverni
Turn number: 33

Who's sent their turn in:
Therodos Waiting for 2h file
Agartha Waiting for 2h file
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Caelum Waiting for 2h file
Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim Waiting for 2h file
Xibalba Waiting for 2h file
Lanka Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea Waiting for 2h file
R'lyeh Waiting for 2h file
Ur Waiting for 2h file
Kailasa 2h file received
Hinnom Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim Waiting for 2h file
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>>122290423
Gobble gobble.
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>>122289737
yes i thought about that, my friend has never played before and he took out like 300 of them with just 150 units and i kept thinking that there's definitely some way to just shit all over the playstyle i had.

which was basically just chaff chaff chaff
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>>122292401
But your chaff is free.
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>>122290423
Wait, which R'lyeh are you talking about? I ain't no homo.
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>>122293209
I just assume animoo posting is someone who is playing R'lyeh now.
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>>122293850
I think you underestimate the number of animeposters.
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>>122294013
This is 4chan after all.
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>>122293209
What sort of sounds do squids make while sucking a dick?
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>>122293104
it was though, every province just shat out millions of skeletons in different varieties and ghouls and i had to slap a commander on them

or maybe i just dont understand what chaff actually means, im not a pro.
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>>122294293
You posted vidya though
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>>122295316

Squids have beaks, so I imagine there's a lot of screaming involved even if it's not them making the noise.
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Monkeys are my favorite
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The guy who went AI when playing Helheim, are you there?

What were you planning to do with A4E4 bless?
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Getting tired of this war yet, Vanarus?
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>>122287545
I've got another 24 blood slaves if you want to make another trade. 12 Fire would be good.

And I've still got other gems to trade. 97 earth, 106 nature, and 52 death. I'd take water, fire, or air in return.
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>>122296342

Not him, but at a guess? Make Staffs of Elements as a bonus, with a cheap imprisoned scales Pretender.

A4E4's also alright for sacred blaster mages, and Helheim can do Thunderstrike spam with Vanjarls. It won't stand up to a serious bless strategy, but it's cheap and you can get really good scales as well.
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>>122295367
So sue me. Anime-styled fanart is the closest thing to actual anime screenshots anyway.
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>>122296342
That's a very typical light magebless.

It's main advantage is that it's cheap, so it allows for great scales, but it also makes Helheim's thunderstrike spammers more accurate and has them lasting a bit longer.

It's almost useless as a troop buff, but that's not the point.
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