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Welcome to /shmupg/!
This general is for discussing all STG/SHMUP (shooting-type/shoot 'em up) games! Think R-Type or Gradius if you're not sure.
NEWS : Mushihimesama released on Steam! Buy this shit if you want to support future releases!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860/
>Where are the pastebins, Eggman?
I'm going to start this shit from the ground-up. Feel free to help argue and swing your dick around on the following topics :
Best horizontal SHMUP
Best vertical SHMUP
Best beginner SHMUP
Localized SHMUPs
First for great music and waifus.
Second for only genre selling piss
>>122120864
Post best OSTs.
I enjoyed Thunder Force a lot when i was a kid. Then after many years of not playing shmups i got back in them with Dodonpachi Daioujou.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPcte3BlPw
>>122120983
My favorite track is from R-Type Leo.
Maximum comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtSkxqWE0B8
>>122120929
>implying
>>122120983
I love this track
>>122121089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
Motherfucking Thunder Force
>>122121269
shit, forgot link
https://youtu.be/TYAFtoc2iFI
What are the most popular SHMUPs that are still being played, /shmupg/? Just getting into them.
If you are new to the genre and or would like to know more about it here is a pretty good documentary about the history of shmups, showcasing a lot of the most noteworthy games of the genre, the minds behind them, the players and more:
https://vimeo.com/11393132 (You could put this in the OP/potential pastebins for future threads)
>>122120983
Ditto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwBx8sxxlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIl73pGFywI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65Zmc6iWCc
>>122121603
Why is Hibachi a loli and not a murderous bee robot?
>>122121539
>that are still being played
For what purpose? You don't need other players unless planing on bro-op
>>122121539
Touhou would be the most popular by far.
>>122121708
Don't ask. Just go with it. Then again I still have mixed feelings about this.
>>122121731
High score dickswinging competitions obviously, brah.
>>122121539
Mushihimesama
DoDonPachi
Ketsui
Deathsmiles
Crimzon Clover
Battle Garegga (somehow)
ESPGaluda
Batrider
Ibara
ProGear
>>122121708
A murderous bee robot elicits violent impulses from the players, while a murderous loli makes players want to subdue her thru tender and affectionate loving.
>>122121708
Well she can still transform into the murderous bee robot, but the reason is because this hibachi was made to be a nice girl that would protect humanity with hugs and love.
What is your favourite Dodonpachi?
I have to go with the first one, the tune when starting the game and killing your first enemies is legendary.
>>122122175
DOJ and the first one.
Are there any shmups that aren't all about chaining and combos and bullet hell? I want to ease in gently. I can't handle Mushihime yet.
We should also have a SHMUP of the Thread each thread that we can play for funsies.
>>122120489
>Best horizontal SHMUP
The Gradius saga.
>Best vertical SHMUP
Armed Police Batrider imo.
>Best beginner SHMUP
DonPachi, DoDonPachi, Deathsmiles, Muchi Muchi Pork!
>Localized SHMUPs
Deathsmiles.
>>122122546
>Are there any shmups that aren't all about chaining and combos and bullet hell?
Yes, tough you'd want to look at the classics
Best NES Exclusive SHMUPS (no arcade ports, since you're better off playing something like Gradius on a different platform)
Summer Carnival 92 Recca
Crisis Force
Gun-Nac
Abadox
Over Horizon
If anyone knows any good or entertaining shmup youtube channels or videos please post them.
>>122123341
http://www.youtube.com/user/xoxak/videos
>>122122546
Games like Gradius, Raiden, R-Type, Dariusburst etc would fit that bill I believe.
>>122122175
Easily DaiOuJou is my favorite DoDonPachi. At least until I play DaiFukkatsu and SaiDaiOuJou.
>tfw you reach Evaccaneer Doom the first time after lots of practice in ura loop
Feels good man. Anyone else have a good feeling when reaching any true final bosses for the first time?
SNES Exclusives :
Axelay
Super Aleste
Area 88 (different enough from arcade to be its own version)
Pop'n TwinBee
Macross Scrambled Valkyrie
>>122123341
This guy's alright if you can understand Spanish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSlN5dXMEV8
>>122123341
Cracks me up every time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCTlQj2fsV8
>>122123229
Recca still blows my mind for an NES game.
>>122124034
>someone else playing Ketsui
Aw yeee. I haven't got to him yet. What ship you use?
>>122120929
Loli piss you say?
>>122124617
For the life of me I can't remember the name of the ship. I believe it was Panzer Jager. I know it's the one with the straight shot.
>>122125017
Yup. That's Panzer Jager.
Genesis Exclusives :
Thunder Force IV
Eliminate Down
Gleylancer
MUSHA
Steel Empire
So... since vertical shooters are all the rage:
What's your favorite horizontal shmup? (doesn't need to be the best)
And your least liked one?
>>122125695
>What's your favorite horizontal shmup?
Thunder Force V or G-Darius.
>And your least liked one?
Uh, Otomedius. Not a bad game mind you. Just not the best game I've played.
Can't stop
Won't stop
PS1 Exclusives (There's more than this but I picked what I thought were best in show)
Einhander
R-Type Delta
Gradius Gaiden
Harmful Park
Gaia Seed
>>122125695
I actually prefer hori-shmups.
My favorites are R-Type Leo and Gradius Gaiden.
Least favorite? Hm. Probably Zombie Nation.
>>122123341
A spanish cool dude with a 1cc focused channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mgSF4fJwJU
N64 : Nothing but 5 incredibly shitty ports!
>>122126231
>>122126563
Thanks for the responses. More are greatly appreciated.
>>122127769
>8 posters in thread
It's gonna be slow, anon. We need to shill in /vr/ too; they have a shmup general sometimes but it always gets pushed off the board.
Gotta consolidate all the shmuppers. I'm going to make some emulator/rom bundles soon too so people can just grab and go.
Later gens all seem like ports and have way more games so I'm struggling a bit to pick out the Saturn/DC/etc exclusives.
>>122121539
Right now I and over 6000 more people are playing Mushihimesama.
If you're interested in starting a game with a lively community i think it's one of the best choices since it's currently getting many newcomers to the genre.
Touhou is very popular too, although game discussion is usually overshadowed by secondary talk. If you don't mind people constantly fawning over characters you should check /jp/'s game threads like this one >>>/jp/14279695
>>122127943
>I'm struggling a bit to pick out the Saturn/DC/etc exclusives
Please include Garegga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd4nL97NA0Y
Dear lord why is /vg/ so fucking fast. I don't remember it being like this in the past.
>Best vertical SHMUP
DDP Daioujou
>Best beginner SHMUP
Touhou and Espgaluda
>>122121539
Just look at the leaderboards for active shmups. The French shmup-forum and System11 have the best Western leaderboards.
>>122124034
>>122124617
3rd Ketsui player reporting in. Going for a 2-ALL + a high-score. I did pic related a couple of days ago. It was a NB run where I died on Evaccania. My max route potential for the 1st loop is around 230-240m, it's pretty hard to do though. I need to practice it some more.
I remember there being a couple more Ketsui players on /vr/.
>>122127943
/vr/ shmup generals never get pushed off. If anything they just reach bump limit. /vr/ is one of the slowest boards on 4chan. And I already told them that Mushi got released in the latest shmup thread.
Also, fuck yeah for the revival of shmup generals.
>>122129017
But Garegga is better as ARC. Why play a knock off version?
Stick, pad or kb?
>>122129335
Does the arcade version have the option of changing the enemy bullets so they're more visible?
>>122129382
I play with pad just for my personal comfort and also because I'm kinda poor. I'd likely use an arcade stick. Maybe I'll scrounge up some shekels and build a hobo one.
I'm contemplating configuring JoyToKey for ChoRenSha so I can have autofire. I know the creator frowns on autofire, but I'm going to give myself carpal tunnel at this rate.
on mushihimesama should i start on original difficulty or skip straight to maniac?
i've been able to 1cc touhou games on normal with some effort if that gives you an idea of my skill level.
death to waifufags
What's the most effective training routine?
>do all stages separately every day, then try full runs when you're comfortable with
>do full runs every day, credit feeding until 1cc + score you want
>>122129767
Original.
Touhou ain't shit compared to actual shmups.
PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=1896
and specially this http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=4049
>>122129767
Original novice it's a great way to start getting into the game if you don't have a lot of prior experience with Cave shooters.
>i've been able to 1cc touhou games on normal with some effort if that gives you an idea of my skill level.
Touhou games's difficulty vary depending the title, but you shouldn't start with maniac unless you feel really confident.
>>122130551
Credit feeding is never a good idea. It teaches you bad habits. It's okay to do it once just to clear the whole game so you have an idea of what the bosses are going to be and what enemies there are, but after that, don't touch them credits.
Or at least limit yourself. When I'm new to a game and not gunning for 1cc, I still try to keep it to 5 and under.
If I'm feeling MAXIMUM SCUM, I usually play shmups on MAME, so I'll save-state at the beginning of each stage so I can practice the whole stage without having to replay level 1-whatever.
>>122130765
>novice
I already tried that, it's boring as hell for the first couple levels, i don't want to fall asleep before there's any real challenge.
I beat touhous Scarlet Devil through Subterranean Animism, I'll keep trying original for a while longer.
>>122129382
Just choose whichever you're comfortable with. We have skilled players using all of those so just choose whatever you like.
>>122129767
Start playing Original and if that feels too easy for you switch to Maniac. You can also start playing on Novice Mode regular mode is too hard.
>>122130020
Take it easy.
>>122130927
Creditfeeding is good for practice purposes though.
So for someone who is learning Mushihimesama, what power should I stick with? I like M a lot personally but I see a lot of people go with W.
Should I go with W too? I'm aiming for 1CC
>>122130551
That depends on the player's preferences.
The idea is that the player has to have as much as he can, so he should play in whatever manner he feels more comfortable.
I don't follow a specific routine but what i found to be the most optimal for me is the following:
>when starting a new game go for an easy or easier difficulty and after managing to 1cc it go for the next dif. option.
>Don't use continues until i reach the latter stages. Then either use the training option for them (if available) or start doing runs credit-feeding in order to learn faster (and not having to deal with the annoyance of redoing the first stages).
>Approach regular runs as an opportunity to learn and get better without pressure. Do 1cc attempts from time to time.
>Try to not play more than an hour a day.
>Care about the score but don't get obsessed with it.
>>122131942
W is far too slow, imo. You have to have super memory autism and start moving before the projectiles even occur.
M is probably the best for a normal player.
>>122131942
You should go with the one that feels right for you.
Even if another type is agreed to be more effective for certain means, you'll only get good if you keep playing, and for that you need to have as much fun as you can.
Does the ship in ChoRenSha have a name? I'm autistic about these things.
>>122129382
Keyboard, pad or arcade stick depending the system (and place) i'm playing them on.
>>122133230
I love Cho Ren Sha. But I don't think that ship has a name. Took me a little bit of anger to finally beat the true final boss since the last phase gets pretty random.
>>122133554
Did you fingerbang the fuck out of that shot button or did you autofire?
>>122131296
>I beat touhous Scarlet Devil through Subterranean Animism
Excellent, you'll do fine.
Just expect Stage 5 to be quite challenging.
>>122133828
Finger bang. There's an autofire button? If I only I knew that sooner.
>>122134537
No, there isn't. The creator frowns upon it, but you can use JoyToKey and other shit to make autofire.
>>122131942
Whichever you have more fun with anon.
All shot types are viable for a 1CC.
W shot is the one you'll see most often though as its really the only one suitable for scoring.
I need game trailers and reviews. Post them.
>>122120983
https://youtu.be/Zds074t6lf0
Espgaluda plays pretty easy after some Mushi with its super fast bullets. Just reached the final boss on 1 credit for the first time. Spent another whole 2 credits on its final form and still couldn't beat it. What a fucking letdown.
>>122135195
Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZ_Dqu16xk
>>122129382
>horizontal
Kb
>vertical
Stick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuB6EwpKyFg
Hot cocoa, STGs and a general?
MAXIMUM COMFY. I wanna start collecting OSTs with you lads. What's the best share service these days, Mega?
>>122131942
W-power is actually the best since it has the highest concentrated firepower in the game when point-blanked, but it requires absolute mastery since you can't move as quickly.
I use M-power in Ultra/Arrange and S-power in Original to 1CC. When scoring, it's always W-power.
>>122135195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZ_Dqu16xk
>>122135195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcChaLM-QPsSOON
>>122120983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ffwSL8VAg#t=51s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NS8jaW1iIc#t=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9COjyJVqQsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsAF36st67Q
>>122137694
>What's the best share service these days, Mega?
Yes.
>>122135195
Beware the Rank mechanic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_T3c3LofE0
>Favorite SHMUP female character
Post yours
>>122121708
Because the devs grew a raging boner for lolis.
>>122139050
Is Hellsinker a SHMUP? Never heard of it.
>>122139786
>the waifuning beginsIf 2hu is fair game, Reisen. If not, Gluon Gauge girl from Sanvein)
>>122139786
Okay that's a little hard to decide to be honest.
>>122135195
I wouldn't mind if ported it to Steam too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNAvWbhBelg
>>122140258
>If 2hu is fair game
It is.
All shmup waifus are welcome.
>>122140374
Blue hair otome best otome.
>>122139786
>>122140258
>Is Hellsinker a SHMUP? Never heard of it.
Yes. Spoilers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MceK9oEJnwQ#t=3238
>>122139257
is that crit1kal's brother?
>>122140530
That's a slippery slope you're standing on.
Are there any other bizarre shmups like In the Hunt where you're not a jet fighter in the sky/space?
>>122140618
There's no slippery slope.
Although not everyone likes every shmup, waifus are waifus.
We should all get along no matter which games one prefers. This is the SHMUP/STG general so every game that falls in that category belongs here, Touhou included.
>>122141112
Yeah, but please remember to make Touhou a secondary focus. Touhou has its own board, and this should cater more to the REST of the STG franchises. I don't mind talking about 2hu here either but it shouldn't turn into a 2hu waifu shitposting general.
>>122141409
As long as people remain civil it should be fine. That goes for people from both fences.
Nothing wrong with posting waifus in moderation. Just let's not forget to talk about different shmups to not stagnate.
>>122140914
Of course.
>>122141908
>>122141112
die waifufag die
you faggots are even more annoying when you waifu games i actually like
>>122135195
N-No homo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWzuOhpMJH0
>>122120983
Challenge accepted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YFxjB77s9I
>>122125695
>favorite horizontal shmup
Darius.
>least liked one
Otomedius and Sexy Parodius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ALzHLwwHY
>>122143160
Darius is literally one of the only classic shmup titles I haven't touched.
Is there a "best" Darius or are you supposed to just durdle through all of them until you find one you like?
So, what shmup(s) have you played this week?
Screenshots encouraged
>>122120983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjURVXbEJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL2UNn8upS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dGBh718Nz0
Guys whats the best version of Tyrian?
>>122143637
Dodonpachi
>>122143417
The second option. It all comes down to personal taste.
>>122120983
I love the change when the mid boss appears.
https://youtu.be/z472pIce5CY
>Capcom is too shitty a company to ever make an R-type game again
>Konami might release a Gradius pachinko game, but never an actual one again
>CAVE can't even get stable high fps on their games, that ran at one point on the arcade equivalent of an Apple II
shmups are dead.
>>122144045
>Capcom
>R-Type
???
>>122144380
My bad, Capcom only published them in NA.
Well don't I feel like the asshole.
>>122143907
>Ketsui
My nigga. Is there a boss rush mode in Kizuna Jigoku or am I retarded? Can't find it. I actually liked the Boss Rush in Death Label.
>>122144536
If it's any consolation, IREM doesn't even fucking exist. But to their credit, they sent the series off with a bang. R-Type Final is fucking magnificent.
>ties up the Cerberus ending of R-Type Delta
>>122144596
Wasn't the DS port basically boss rush?
Haven't played for a while so I don't remember.
>>122140914
Try the Parodius series, it's as good if not better than Gradius.
>>122144815
Yeah, that's Death Label. It's ONLY a boss rush. But it's a pretty awesome mode. Kinda cheesed that there's no option for it in Kizuna on PS3.
>>122140914
Toilet Kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUcUj6fin_4
>>122139786
Casper for me, she's so lovely and cute.
Hopefully you don't die while I'm asleep, /shmupg/.
>>122149023
I was thinking the same thing. Shmup threads usually don't last very long.
Maybe making a thread around the same time everyday would help speed things along?
>>122149234
I intend to. Gonna make one every day and work on getting OSTs and game bundles. Eventually art books but that's never been my strong suite.
What are the shmups with the best art/aesthetics?
>>122149431
Sounds like a good idea, I can help you out with a few of those. I downloaded a bunch of artbooks a while ago.
Which reminds me, I haven't shilled this yet:
https://www.mediafire.com/?48812jiax8m1c#nz0227tzb9zor
This is a link to a couple of pre-packaged MAME builds that contain a shitload of shmups in it. Pic related. This should last you a lifetime.
>>122149926
>Hotdog Storm
The fuck is this?
When trying to get better at shmups do you anons think it is better to gradually move towards the harder difficulties or to just jump straight into the deep end?
I've 1cc'd 2hus 6-13 on hard and I thought I would transition to lunatic on DDC but I've hit a wall between the third and fourth stages and now I'm not sure if I should just persevere or go through it on a lower difficulty first.
>ctrl+f
>metal black
>border down
0 results
>>122149926
>no Vimana
>no Batsugun
>no original Gradius
>no Cotton 2
>no Dogyuun
>no Fantasy Zone
>no Flying Shark
>no Legendary Wings
>no Zero Wing
baka desu senpai
Pretty good though.
>>122149717
xexex, mushi, dangun feveron, whatever this one is
>>122150119
An awesome game that gives you the original arcade experience?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xreCxm3Xc
>>122150523
It really depends on what level player you are. Sometimes toughing it out is the only way to improve, other times it's better to play on a lower difficulty. Try practicing the stages that you're having trouble with for a couple of days/weeks, and if you're still not consistent at them by then, then lower the difficulty.
The better you become as a player, the harder it will get to improve.
>>122150884
Metal Black looks like someone ate Darius and shit it out. It's so fucking ugly I can't stand playing it.
>>122149717
Crimzon Clover
>>122143606
>Flotage 3-B
MY BROTHER OF EXCELLENT TASTE
>>122149926
Got this when I try play Death smiles. What do?
>>122152520
Nevermind. Found the readme.
>>122150523
>to gradually move towards the harder difficulties
This works best for me.
>>122129162
>that score
Holy shit, how the fuck do you even get that high score on the first loop, my max potential is around 180-190.
>I remember there being a couple more Ketsui players on /vr/.
Aye, I'm one of them, I cleared it once again a couple of days ago. Miserably failing at evaccaneer really stupidly, I was holding max lives and 3 bombs in stock and for some dumb reason I died once by a little popcorn tank at the end of stage 5 and then failed twice during evaccaneer and bombed again. Still I don't really have time now to keep playing as often, irl problems are getting heavy, maybe at the end of december I'll get the 2-ALL.
>>122124034
The only way I've ever reached Doom was by using savestats, shame on me.
>>122153323
No shame in my opinion.
Great news: Mushihimesama sales have jumped a lot!. I think it might have even surpassed Saidaioujou's total sales already.
Let's keep spreading the shmup love.
>>122153896
eat my cumb dude
>>122153896
Excellent. Hopefully our presence contributes to even one sale. I want more Cave.
>>122124034
I wanna feel that feel.
>>122124034
It felt pretty good reaching Hibachi. The feeling wears off after a couple dozen times though. All that's left now are some nerves because I don't want to fuck up my run.
>>122120489
>Best horizontal SHMUP
I have a soft spot for U.N. Squadron.
>Best vertical SHMUP
DDP DOJ
>Best beginner SHMUP
Touhou 7 Perfect Cherry Blossom.
>Localized SHMUPs
Either Deathsmiles or Mushihimesama.
>>122129382
Keyboard and pad. May buy a stick soon.
>>122139786
Patchouli.
>>122129162
>Dear lord why is /vg/ so fucking fast. I don't remember it being like this in the past.
I'm pretty sure it was always quite fast, that's part of why the old /vg/ shmup generals died not long after /vg/ was formed
>select all the images with fish
I ALWAYS WANTED A THING CALLED TUNA SASHIMI
>>122156190
>Patchouli
She is easily one of my favorite non Cave shmup girls.
>>122120983
With pleasure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6vuZ1kj26k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdlIJ3g6dFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfstgnJIeU
>>122121603
Tomorrow i'll watch it. Gotta go sleep now.
>>122157012
You forgot one.
https://youtu.be/NOw7TpLyOjM
Goodnight guys. Cya tomorrow!
Reminder soon shmup will become an easy cash grab for otakus and every game will be Otomedius.
>>122120489
>there's an actual shmup general now
What a time to be alive, here's to hoping ASSFAGGOTS dont bump us off the board.
>>122159902
Maybe a few years ago
Genre is dead now son. All the big names are done except for Taito limping along under SE.
>>122159902
They've thrived with military otaku and bishoujo/moe ones since like forever.
>>122160571
I don't mind military otaku, though.
Moe otaku will probably only buy girl merchandise.
>>122160824
I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Pure ship based shmups are still kicking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdP7OmDkgec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGx6rEgbNQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3s-yA2ldR0
Oh god ChoRenSha knows no mercy
>have insomnia
>must wake up today at 7am
...I guess i'll have to read "That".
Are there any shmup makers?
>>122163151
Danmakufu
>>122163151
There's this too:
http://shmup.wikia.com/wiki/Fraxy
>>122163151
Dezaemon Kids + ePSXE would let us make shmups and trade them easy.
>>122129382
Depends. Arcade-y stuff (Darius, Raiden, Cave stuff) I play with a gamepad, but home release stuff (Kamui, Hydora, that one Japanese series everyone gets triggered by) I use keyboard.
>>122162046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBLridjEbvc
What does /shmupg/ think (if you've even heard of) pic related? I found it used in fucking Gamestop for 2 dollars. Aside from poor sub-weapon balance and the stylus blocking your view sometimes (can only move through the touch screen) I though it was pretty solid.
>tfw when clearing Novice Maniac on Mushihimesama doing a casual attempt to test out vsync
This is the greatest feeling. Can't wait to finally be out of Novice, it's actually been really helpful so far.
WARNING!!
A HUGE BATTLESHIP
>WE'RE FALLING OFF OF /vg/
IS APPROACHING FAST!!
>>122166551
Shit was pretty solid.
Shame that the 3DS sequel took on a shittier theme.
>>122169252
Don't I feel silly
>>122169254
>3DS sequel
This is news to me, what's it's name?
>>122169547
iirc Nano Assault, eshop only
>>122169650
Looks more like some kind of spiritual-spin off. What a shame, I would have loved a 3DS Nanostray.Also on a side note, the same guys that made Nanostray are making Fast Racing Neo. I dont know why but that struck me as odd.
>>122169346
Let it go anon, we have been through this long ago.
Hey, justpiratedmushihimesama, but it wont launch, help
>>122171937
Try buying it.
>>122172325
not enough burgertokens right now, later
>>122171937
I think the game is trying to tell you something anon.
>>122171937
I don't know a whole lot about Steam api but something tells me you need to buy it.
>>122171937
I remember some other people complaining about this on launch. See if you can find the patches.
Guten Morgen shmuppers, oh wow, it actually survived one night, we might make it, we might have shmups and shit
anyone here trying to go for a good score?
do you need a joystick for mame?
>>122175494
Nope
>>122153896
It's considered popular in Steam now, it's happening
>boot up a shmup
>lose a life to something silly on the first or second stage
>immediately alt f4 and walk away
>>122177121
Don't do that, you can recover from silly mistakes
>>122177121
with that mentality maybe you should try call of duty
Hope that cave/degica will port Deathsmiles and Ketsui next, mushihimesama is still fun but it's just missing something.
Is there a good /shmupg/ for ps4
>>122178119
Jamestown+ is on ps4, and Dariusburst coming in january
>>122139050
aw yeah Hellsinker
>>122120983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSYMMopJSmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41menUKldA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iy-F0f_gDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78sIdm5teOw
I also wanted to post Raiwat Virgo but it's gone. RefleX Soundtrack in general is great.
Has anyone tried that game from last comiket with the teleporting mechanic?
>>122179593
Zangeki Warp?
I wish Stage 3 wasn't such a bag of dicks.
Not resetting 95% of runs would help, too.
>>122166551
Pretty good game with fun levels. The bosses are a bit shitty though. Very tanky and repetitive. Also game's way too damn long.
Good morning, /shmupg/!
>>122177121
The reason why I don't practice DOJBL from first loop anymore.
>>122175283
Mushi 1.5 has been rubbing by point-blanking nub, and I am probably gonna focus on them once I am done with DOJBL.
>>122163151
There's a Japanese freeware one, but I don't think the documentation is translated. Some example games would be Ex Extra. I also think
Danmakufu is also possible, but pretty strict in what you can make ( as in Touhou-clones, mostly ). You can bend it pretty impressive amount though to make them non-Touhou I sure did during Danmakufu competitions
Gamemaker works well, too, I suppose.
There's also option of writing your own game. I am currently thinking of writing another one in C#.
>>122159902
i will fight this
>>122139786
Panzer Jager
>>122124034
Reaching DOJBL Hibachi on actual run felt amazing.
As much as I like point-blanking, Ketsui has rubbed me lot in wrong way and I haven't played it in ages...
https://youtu.be/sQZuidKexBQ
Is it true /shmupg/? Is this the hardest video game boss ever?
>>122180641
B-but Panzer Jager is a boy!
>>122181579
no, Inbachi is way harder:
https://youtu.be/cujHIkGRT7U?t=1565
But technically I suppose that double Hibachi would be the hardest but that's only because you have no lifes for that fight.
>>122181579
Back when video was released it was true, although I don't think uploader knew it.
Futari Ultra is insane and Larsa is stupidly difficult. It's a marathon of a battle.
>tfw cannot stop playing 1.5
So we can agree that 1.5 is the base game, right?
>>122181579
>>122181972
>>122182248
imo at the level of cave tlbs comparing difficulty gets kinda silly, because they're all just resourcesinks
>play SHMUPs for years
>always put name in as DIX, ASS, or other memes
>still no 3 letters to self identify with
I...
>>122183315
don't give up, you're almost there!!
>>122183315
lel
Say, does it support TATE mode?
>>122183432
It does
>>122120489
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.perplelab.hod&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.cave.mahouotome&hl=en
>>122184098
>Dragonia has RNG + IAP to shmup
Pls no
>Mahouotome has such a low score
Hmm. Have to try these today.
>>122184098
>mobile
Jokes on you, I don't even have a mobile phone
>>122184098
How does one even play shmups on mobiles?
>>122184262
Played them on emulator anon
why would you gimping yourself by covering the unit with your thumb
>>122184262
>>122184319
>>122184327
Most people just use Bluestacks/*insert your favorite android emulator here* and play it on their PC. Also lots of mobiles offer controller support. I can usually plug a controller into my tablet without any problem.
Also, even if you do want to play with the touch screen, you don't have to cover the unit (and why the fuck would you use your thumb oh god), most of them let you touch and hold anywhere as the point and it autofires from there. I played a lot of Strikers III this way and it was fine. I usually just hold directly below the ship so I can still see where my hitbox is and I have no issues.
>>122184327
I wish we lived on wonderland and Cave released their catalog on vita, alas we don't and what we have is mobile
>DOJBL 2nd loop practice
>Die stupidly in 3rd stage's 2nd half ( with all bombs ).
>Die stupidly in 4th stage's elevators ( with all bombs )
>Die twice so stupidly at the hive ( with hyper in stock )
Goddamn, I will never get this 2-ALL at this pace.
>>122184839
I'm always such a jew with my bombs as well.
I think I need to use them before it's an "oh shit" situation, because usually when the "oh shit" situation happens, I'm dead.
>>122183425
thanks anon
I did it! My first 1cc EVER!
I went into the stage with 4 lives, fucking savage.
Now to go for normal-maniac.
>>122123229
>Summer Carnival 92 Recca
Was Recca JP only?
>>122185110
You can get it on 3DS Virtual Console these days.
>>122185110
Very much so. But it was put out in North America on 3DS for the eStore in September 5, 2013, so it got a mild resurgence of interest.
You don't need a lick of English to play the NES version though and it's surprisingly fast for an NES game.
>>122185110
>>122185223
>>122185259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbdDW3aSCyM
>hour and a half soundtrack
>for a shmup
>on NES
ayy
>>122123229
>Gun-Nac
Fuck yeah
Saturn shmups are the best console shmups. Prove me wrong.
Anyone used Dezaemon Plus? I'm kinda interested in making some shmups on it and trading them with you lads. Could be fun.
>>122186694
PS2.
>Mushihimesama (not so relevant now with steam but)
>Gradius V
>Dodonpachi Dai-Oujou
>Shienryu Explosion
>ESPGaluda (with arrange mode)
>Triggerheart Exelica
>Shikigami no Shiro II
>Psyvariar Ultimate Final
>Twinkle Star Sprites
>Ibara
>Silpheed
>R-Type Final (slow down sucks but holds a place in my heart)
>Star Solider
>>122120983
Ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSYMMopJSmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSR5itpBDxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps4AwBM2TyE
>>122143569
EosD and Mushihimesama.
>>122184984
Congratulations!
>>122187679
thanks!
Time for some luckshit.
>>122143569
DOJBL, Mushihimesama ( 1.5 mostly )
>>122187091
Too bad Ibara port wasn't very good.
DOJ had DL mode as well, which hasn't been in any other port.
>>122182475
Some are still more difficult than others. Some earlier bosses ( like DOJ Hibachi and Aki ) are at least are exploitable in some manner, while DOOM is bit more reasonable.
Newer fights are longer and don't really have such exploits ( outside of DFK Hibachi 1.0 and Spiritual Larsa ).
Ultra Larsa is just absurdly long fight.
Holy shit this thread is still alive. Looks like this general could survive a while.
>>122184984
>My first 1cc EVER!
Hey congratulations, man
>>122188081
>while DOOM is bit more reasonable.
You're kidding me right? Doom is so easy compared to actually getting to the fucking tlb in my opinion.
Anyone got artbooks?
>>122129162
>3rd Ketsui player reporting in. Going for a 2-ALL + a high-score. I did pic related a couple of days ago. It was a NB run where I died on Evaccania. My max route potential for the 1st loop is around 230-240m, it's pretty hard to do though. I need to practice it some more.
>I remember there being a couple more Ketsui players on /vr/.
Yeah man i'm one of them and holy shit your loop 1 is getting strong scoring wise, I get around 20 mill less but qualify for omote very frequently, yesterday i died at the end of loop 1 with literally a few shots left, would of been my first time into ura... oh well it'l come! Atm i'm purposely taking safer loop 1 routes to make the more frequent occurrence of loop 2 a bit more familiar for when dat run happens, fuck nerve choking shit up all over the place. Current pb is 2-4.
>>122129382
>Stick, pad or kb?
I played stick for 4/5 years and switched to pads in the last couple with which i've destroyed all my old scores and feel more comfortable with in general so yeah whatever you feel best with. Fyi my pads are a ps1 pad that i modded (melted the cross across the dpad out and sanded the surface of that side back to make the dpad pad way more raised and maneuverable, working a treat!) An ascii ps1 pad and a Ibuffalo snes usb pad.
>>122129767
>on mushihimesama should i start on original difficulty or skip straight to maniac?
Well play both because they both score completely differently and play differently to, basically original is fast aimed bullets ala raiden/toaplan more classic and maniac is more typical danmaku.
>>122144596
>My nigga. Is there a boss rush mode in Kizuna Jigoku or am I retarded?
No there isn't only ketsui on nintendo is basically boss rush. Personally i'd give a left bollock to play the ketsui campaign version that was just 1 loop with doom with the loop being increased in difficulty.
>>122151127
>Metal Black looks like someone ate Darius and shit it out. It's so fucking ugly I can't stand playing it.
Thi isn't true and even if it were the ost is godly and makes up for it.
>no Steredenn discussion
i am disappoint
>>122180641
>Mushi 1.5 has been rubbing by point-blanking nub,
Mine to i've cleared 1.5 a couple times and tried a few scoring efforts, its fucking mental and to think ppl can get over a billion when i'm lucky to get 140 mill.
>>122182412
>So we can agree that 1.5 is the base game, right?
I had mushi on ps2 years ago and always thought it was lacking also fuck the tard tapping on maniac and ultra. 1.5 feels like the game it should of always been, such a massive improvement. Max modes are boners.
>>122129382
Stick for me because of the sheer fun I ahve with them
>>122190105
I literally just bought Ketsui a few days ago and am relatively new to shmups. Any pointers? I have no idea what an ura or omote is. I've been reading general shmup advice guides but this is virtually one of my first shmups (outside of like Gradius as a kid and Raiden III)
>>122143569
>So, what shmup(s) have you played this week?
mushi 1.5 in morning and ketsui in the evening.
>>122190725
Sheeit I was just gonna ask what /shmupg/ thought of it, and if it was worth a purchase.
So what do you think guys?
looks like I chose a good time to get into SHMUPS
DoDonPachi is insanely fun
How do people access Daifukattsu without a 360 though?
>>122191251
Buy steam releases and hope for success for the company so they release it?
>>122190936
>I literally just bought Ketsui a few days ago and am relatively new to shmups. Any pointers? I have no idea what an ura or omote is.
Ok well you don't need to think about ura or omote for a whilst as they are the second loops which take a decent amount of skill to even qualify for so for now focus on that 1st loop also as a first ever shmup be prepared to get a kicking for a whilst as this is not a beginners game. Try to get comfoy with the hitbox which is a very small 4 pixel square in the centre of the ship. Watch some plays on youtube to understand the nature of the scoring which is fundamentally quite simple to grasp at a basic level and then just play but try to play consciously really think about what's coming up and the best way to deal with that "routing" as we call it, trial and error is the name of the game even if you lift some ideas from plays on ytube you'll find that you may adapt it slightly to work better for you or maybe find a less risky version etc. Lastly have fun Ketsui is the best.
>>122191316
damn
>>122191140
I'm a SHMUP shitter so I haven't managed to beat it yet, but it's fun, and most of all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y-E8tfPQgIITS FUCKING METAL AS FUCK
>>122189115
Thank you!
>>122191251
Mame 0.143 will run Daifukatsu but it's hard to find that build because the devs got in trouble from Cave and pulled it.
There's also an Android version you can emulate on stacks or buy, same with iOs.
the jump in mushihemsama from normal-original to maniac is crazy and those slowdowns are fucking me up
>>122191324
Thanks!
The aesthetics of Ketsui appealed to me, so I wanted to learn it regardless of not having a shmup background. Someone also mentioned that the ship color also affects your playstyle, but I can't really tell the difference.
>>122192153
>but I can't really tell the difference.
The 2p shit panzer move much faster and has a straight shot with slower lockons where as the tiger is slower with a wideshot and super fast lock ons.
>>122192989
>shit
ship lel.
>>122192989
>>122193092
No, no, not that. I know the difference between Tiger and Panzer, but there's a second color for each ship and someone said that the secondary colors changed the gameplay mechanics in some regard but I can't find anything about it.
Maybe they were talking about another game.
>>122193238
Oh sorry, first i've heard of it afaik they are identical aside from moving the scoring bit to the other side of the screen during play.
>>122193523
I've heard that the player 2 side has very slightly lower rank than player 1.
Howewer, I don't know if that has any credibility to it, and superplays seem to use whatever side they like.
>>122187091
Quite a few shmups I missed in the ps2.
>>122195386
Limited as fuck print runs and 99% Jap exclusives. Most people didn't get anything shmupwise on PS2 until emulators years after the fact.
How big is your shmup collection guise?
I just got into them, have only mushi, mushi futari, ddp saidaioujou, deathsmiles and akai katana. There's Jamestown too if it counts.
>>122196769
>Steam
Crimzon Clover
Kamui
Mushihimesama
Alltynex Second
Danmaku Unlimited 2
Deltazeal
exceed 3rd
Gundemonium Recollection
Jamestown
Luftrausers
QP Shooting Dangerous
Raiden IV
RefleX
Suguri
Zenohell
>GOG
Raiden III
Raiden Legacy
Humans Must Answer
Tyrian 2000
>MAME
Battle Garegga
Batsugun
Darius Gaiden
DoDonPachi
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
Dangun Feveron
Strikers 1945
>other
Mushihimesama Futari
Hydora
Like every Touhou game.
God damn, I didn't realize my library was this big.
>>122196769
For MAME/emulators I have like literally every fucking smup because I'm a scumbag.
For actually owning, Ketsui Kizuna on PS3 and R-Type Final on PS2.
Anyone know the mechanics of getting the item multiplier in Exceed 3rd Black?
Its seems really inconsistent.
>>122197409
>>122197547
Come on guise, don't mention games from Mame as part of your collection.
I guess I should have said things you actually own, as in collecting.
>>122196769
on steam:
Suguri
Kamui
RefleX
Alltynex 2nd
CCWI
got a copy of sora and my Hellsinker copy is arriving soon.
>>122159902
The problem with Otomedius isn't that it pandered to otaku, it was that the gameplay was shit.
That said, it still had some rocking tunes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6CfvMC1ohE
>>122197718
Well then ignore that portion. It's not even a full third of my collection.
Also I forgot ChoRenSha
I also have Mushi on Steam, Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga on XBLA and Astebreed on PSN.tfw no j-360forgot my pic
>>122198097
meant for
>>122196769god damn it
>>122196769
Ignoring Steam and various downloads, I have:
Ikaruga (GCN)
Gradius V
R-Type Final
Under Defeat HD (PS3)
WarTech: Senko no Ronde (if you want to count it)
R-Type DX
Space Invaders Extreme (DS)
Iridion II (or maybe I have 3D... can't remember)
Sigma Star Saga
Sol-Feace (SCD)
Think that's the extent of my meagre physical collection.
I did it! 1.5 original!
What an awful run. Once again my first 1cc of a game is an absolute piece of shit, haha.
I just want to say that boss milking is super unfun.
That's all.
>>122197660
What item multiplier? You just get 100,000 per orb after you're already at the limit of 5.
Goddamn, failing run at Hibachi really eats your spirit.
>No-miss 2-5
>Crash into boss, then proceeds to die like a bitch again the moment invincibility runs out
>With full bombs, of course.
>>122201292
just play games with good milks
So given that 360 ports will come first, if we go through them, what are you wanting more, new games or old arcade games?.
Personally I want the oldies.
>>122203278
I'm sure a lot of us would like the classics being ported. But I'd also kill for a new game. But that might be expecting much at the moment.
>>122203278
>>122203708
Considering they're doing shit like Mahouotome for "new games", give me the old ones.
Muchi Muchi Pork NOW
>>122203228
>Thread still alive
Fuck yeah, this is awesome. Good morning guys.
>>122200157
Congratulations! Good job! But your job isn't over yet, pilot!
>>122203228
I know that feeling so well. I've had the same thing happen to me several times. And an even worse thing happen to me once, I don't even want to think reminisce about that.
Are there any shmups that are not rote memorization? I'm not trying to revive the "skill vs memo" shitstorm I just think it'd be interesting to watch. With other genres people make crazy exhibition videos showing off their skill but with shmups it's just like "yeah you played the game well" with an occasional "I messed up this part but clutch dodged it out" and it's a little boring.
>>122201294
I mean the point items that spill out of enemies when you blow them up. Every 2000 you get a life up. Sometimes I get a multiplier like x2, x4 etc, the highest I've gotten is x16, which is nice because you gain lives quickly. I'm just not exactly sure how to build the multiplier and most of the time I get stuck on x4.
Sorry if I'm not being very clear.
>>122204372
This is literally the selling point of Steredenn >>122191140
It's basically a SHMUP + a roguelike in terms of randomly generating the stage/enemies/weapons. Go forth and enjoy a different kind of skill.
>>122204372
Try ChoRenSha68k on Hard. The suicide bullets add quite a bit of randomness to it, and they move fast as fuck. Adapt in less time than it takes to blink or you're fucking dead, and that's against basic fucking enemies.
>>122204519
Ah. There's only a score multiplier, which affects your score from POW, grazing and bullet cancel. It doesn't do anything to Dragon Orbs (as I explained earlier). The shit you're seeing on the screen is your current multiplier. It actually caps at 64x. The multiplier is determined only by one thing; how quickly you defeat an enemy when it appears on the screen. If you leave an enemy on the screen that appeared first to shoot a different enemy (whether it's bigger or whatever), your multiplier will reduce while that enemy is out. Dying also obviously fucks your multiplier.
Basically if you let an enemy escape? Fucks up your multiplier. Enemies appeared in a wave and you shot them in the wrong order? Fucks your multiplier.
Game play basically is
>kill everything as fast as possible
>to kill fast as possible, graze bullet to fill meter to spam Burn
It becomes a juggling act in killing enemies quickly at the same time you graze bullets to Burn Air Raid bigger enemies/huge waves.
Honestly a little bit obnoxious compared to some other games scoring systems.
>>122204372
from what I heard touhou games are more random than most shmups, even though there is still a lot of memorization. However really most shmups are still hard to execute even if you have the route memorized (if they have a good scoring system that is)
>>122204372
>>122205195
oh and of course there are touhou 3 and 9, which have very little memorization, but are not fully traditional shmups
>>122204372
Eschatos has major RNG, especially on the third stage. It has chaining mechanics, but is more about general strategy and positioning for the waves than strict routing.
>>122205195
>from what I head touhou games are more random than most shmups
That's kind of true but it's really meaningless. The randomization is insignificant, you don't really notice it unless you're trying to notice it, or unless you're one of those people that actually plays games by memorization alone rather than trajectory prediction mixed with memorization. If you think you can play touhou games with your eyes closed you're mostly wrong, but it's not significant enough that you actually have to significantly alter how you dodge each pattern.
>>122205880
even for completely random spam there still is an approach you're gonna take and some kind of dodging scheme for certain patterns
>>122205115
interesting, thanks.
so when is next cave port gonna get announced?
>>122206318
Yeah, but at what level do you stop splitting hairs? You can argue that even walking is a pattern where you need to put one foot in front of the other. Whether the entire game is one big pattern you memorize, or the game is broken up into a big pile of chunks that must be memorized and strung together when the situation presents itself, you're still memorizing in either scenario.
I don't think there's a true "random" shmup that's nothing but twitchy reaction gameplay. Even Steredenn's enemies look like they fire the same kind of shots in the same patterns when they appear; it's just a matter of WHEN they appear that is subject to chance.
>>122206439
No problem. It's kind of weird that most shmups aren't transparent in that they tell you what they actually want you to be doing to achieve a big score. I guess figuring it out is supposed to be part of the fun, but later shmups got more and more obtuse and I know how frustrating it can be when the screen is just filled with gems and multipliers and someone screaming "BOMBER" and flashing and you have no idea what the fuck is happening.
>>122206594
If I remember right, it'll be December.
>>122206819
It's funny because every skill requires memorization. You always need to know what to expect and what to do. That's what makes them skills. If you could "master" a game without familiarity with that game, then that means you haven't mastered anything in the first place because it means that there's nothing to master.
>>122207881
Agreed.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185328740&postcount=853
Good news from Degica for those that haven't heard yet.
>I can't comment on exact sales figures, but I can say that this was one of our best game launches so far. Players showed amazing support for this game across the board.
Degica is also trying to release Mushihimesama on Gog! But they need your vote to do it!
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/mushihimesama
>>122208475
>neogaf
:/
>>122208475
>GoG
But why though?
I don't think there's anyone in this day and age that ONLY uses GoG over Steam.
>>122208697
trying to put it on gog is retarded
they would not even get 1K sales from it in my opinion, only thing they would get is getting the game pirated
>>122208934
It's already been pirated.
A bigger problem would be the massive brokenness of the port. Given GoG's speed in pushing out updates, the version could end up being inferior to the Steam one - if it gets further fixes down the line.
>>122209161
I'd rather have them all either on steam or on Gog, alternatives are cool, but it is a poor choice.
>>122193837
>I've heard that the player 2 side has very slightly lower rank than player 1.
The only game i know that does this is salamander 2.
>>122208934
I was able to download a pirate of mushi within 1 hr of it's steam release. Fortunately for me it runs super well on my setup so i bought it after.
Anyone here own an actual arcade cab or even a DIY mamecab?
>>122213528
I wanted to buy one, but shit happened and I ended up fucked up monetarily.
Quite a pity, it was a gr8 machine with crt monitor et all, not vertical, though.
Are you planning on a mamecab or something?
>>122214340
Yeah, pretty much.
What I really want is a Gradius cab, but in my heart I know that it's stupid to buy a 30 year old cab/PCB for a ridiculous "collector" price when I could just make a MAME cab that's infinitely cheaper and requires no maintenance.
>>122214950
The real thing, huh?
I have this thing against piracy nowadays, so I can't comment on cabs, but you could hook up modern hardware to the old pcb
>>122139786
Definitely Casper. I'm a big Deathsmiles fan and I like all of them to some extent (even Follett), but Casper is certainly my favorite.
>>122140374
>>122140543
Rosalie is best otome. Souffle's cool too. Also I've finally gotten around to starting writing up that English-friendly guide for Gothic wa Mahou Otome. It's coming along alright, but will probably still take a few days at the very least at this rate. In case those couple of guys who saw my post the other day are watching.
>>122179890
Yeah that's the one. Has anyone played it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJdkxCD2sm4
You know I keep kicking myself about when playing through Mushihimesama? I keep forgetting I have bombs sk every time I lost, I could've used my fucking bombs.
>>122215281
I'll actually try Mahou Otome if I know what the fuck is going on, so I'm looking forward to it.
>>122215214
I'm 50/50 on piracy. Stuff like Mushihimesama that is actively out and will support more shmups coming out, I'm fine with supporting.
An old Gradius cab that Konami isn't going to see the money from, or even if they were, the Gradius team that's not even with Konami anymore that wouldn't see any money from, is less of a concern for me. If I knew my money was going to the people that deserved it, they could have it.
I know it's the typical "I buy good games and pirate bad ones" argument, but I really do feel that way and I still do buy games while pirating others.
>>122215941
To me it is a moral issue, it aches, because I want to play the games and I can't.
>>122215465
Looks pretty neat, it's made by the same people that did Gigantic Army which I played a bit of a while ago and liked (although it did have some issues). Will check it out once it comes out on steam.
Also, apparantly they released a different game on steam yesterday called Steel Strider which looks like an improved sequel/successor to Gigantic Army. It's not a shmup but it still looks pretty fun. Their games don't seem to sell very well sadly, but apparently good enough to keep making more of them so that's alright I suppose.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404100/
>>122216707
I could see if it were new games, but I don't see the moral issue on companies that don't even exist anymore or have long been out of business (like Toaplan).
Toaplan went bankrupt and ceased to exist in 1994.
>>122215465
I played the demo. It's good, but not as good as Satazius (yet).
>>122216707
Must suck being confined by such morals.
>>122217332
It doesn't since I got my beliefs confirmed.
>>122217772
Which are what? Every time you play mame a baby dies?
>tfw both of your hobbies are on life support
>>122217948
No, I believe it's similar to theft, illegally acquired goods, which isn't correct.
In any case a shmup general is not a place to talk about why I believe and what.
>>122216808
>Also, apparantly they released a different game on steam yesterday called Steel Strider which looks like an improved sequel/successor to Gigantic Army.
Thanks for the heads up anon, I loved Gigantic Army.
>>122215465
Seems interesting, but I dont know if I can stomach the game being paused so abruptly every time I want to teleport.
>>122218169
>which isn't correct.
By your standards maybe but essentially morals are made up anyways. Ahwell your loss
>Fires up mame for moar Ketsui
What ship is the least comfortable to pilot and why is it an Arrowhead?
>>122196769
>>122198097
i bothered taking this pic so im getting maximum mileage out of my collection on bed photo and posting it again
not pictured:
>Steam
crimson clover
kamui
alltynex second
jamestown
reflex
>saturn
psyvariar
gunbird 2
and every other game in existence on mame obv
>>122219646
That's a very small arrowhead though. Either this or the girl is very big.
>>122219837
>actually owns Mars Matrix
Impressive
>>122219837
>Mars Matrix
Oh wow
Could an Arrowhead take the Vic Viper in a fight?
>>122215281
I'm one of those anons, glad to hear it, i'm looking forward to it.
>>122221916
It could be a fun fight to see.
>>122219837
I fucking salute you, sir.
>>122221916
Probably. A Force is no laughing matter. Fucking indestructible ayylmao orb of HP Lovecraft.
>>122196769
>Steam
Mushihimesama
Jamestown
Gundemonium Trilogy
Reflex
Astebreed
Crimson Clover
Danmaku Unlimited 2
Ether Vapor Remaster
eXceed Trilogy
Jigoku Kisetsukan (it's free, so... kinda?)
SATAZIUS
Sine Mora
>>122197660
Speedkilling.
>>122226383
How is Jamestown? Been eyeballing it for a while but all the reviews I've seen have been by non-shmuppers.
>>122228503
Kind of a Giga Wing imitator and I gotta say I could always use more Giga Wing knockoffs.
It's probably worth it just for the ridiculous setting
>>122228503
It's good but IIRC, only one ship has an ability for slow movement, so you'll need to main it if you wish to play on higher difficulties.
Also, the developers somehow fucked up the bullet colors with a patch, but I don't know if it got fixed.
>>122207881
I don't think I explained my point well enough. Let me give an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0zbYU6B0w Here's a video that I enjoyed watching recently. This person has obviously memorized the game to play this well there's no disputing that however you could play it completely differently and be just as good and even the same guy would probably end up having the fights go completely differently if he did it again. That's the kind of shmup I'm looking for.
>>122204584
This looks good, thanks.
Post your favorite 1cc replay.
>>122219646
Probably some of the ones from Otomedius.
>>122230076
I think the girls count as part of the ship, judging from their names?
It might be difficult to arrange yourself but probably not too uncomfortable, unless you go to space.
>think shmups are cool and fun
>don't like repetition so always get bored when trying to git gud
what do
>>122230456
Two words wind chill
>>122231208
You have a point
I think my eyes are fucked because on Mushi, it's like I go blind from all the bullets
I also can't get boss 1 on normal/original down consistently. Keep dying on phase 1 to one of 2 patterns
How do you guys usually learn bosses? Dying a million times until you figure it out?
>>122232019
Used to be the way.
Nowadays I mimic youtubes or save state at the boss so I can redo it over and over without having to go through the stage each time I wanna learn.
>>122219646
Looks like she has a ginormous pimple with pus in her left shoulder.
>>122125695
Progear
It'll never ever come to Steam (licensing) and that makes me sad.
>>122125695
Lords of Thunder is the best. It's an easy game with no scoring potential so you know it's good if it doesn't have to lean on difficulty and scoring for artificial fun.
>>122232019
>it's like I go blind from all the bullets
Something similar happens to me too. Sometimes there's so many bullets on screen my brain just freezes.
>>122233624
I don't think scoring is artificial fun. Difficulty, sometimes.
>>122226383
>Jamestown
I have to check out that game.
Been playing Ikaruga past couple of days
Was fun at first. But playing for score is absolutely awful.Way too much memorization
I always forget how much I FUCKING HATE HAVING TO USE POWER-UPS FOR SPEED-UP in Gradius.
I love everything about Gradius except the need for speed-ups. Even in fucking Salamander you have to collect speed-ups.
>>122235758
Unfortunately it's broken on Steam. Your Bullets change color, and most enemy Bullets are grey making them IMPOSSIBLE to see. It's been like this for months.
You should be good if you play it on PS4 though
Hey guys,
A week ago I created a YT account so that I could upload shmup 1ccs and score-runs for those that can't do it on their own setup:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA
So if you have something worth uploading, upload the input or replay and give me the link, or send me the replay directly at [email protected]
Also tell me which Mame version you're using and the ROM name and important data like that and I'll upload the video for you soonish.
>>122240907
Ouch. I got to remember that.
>>122241297
Neato.
I'm total shit, so I won't have anything worth uploading, but good to know.
Hopefully someone can do Progear so I can see how to gitgud.
Anyone know what shmups have boss rushes? I'm tired of doing stages. I just wanna 1v1 big guys.
>>122242428
G-Darius if the only one I know about. I assume you mean a boss rush mode.
Ketsui Death Label is one as well but no one gives a fuck about Nintendo DS as a shmup platform.
>>122241297
I'm trying to git gud son, I'll send what I got whenever I can, I promise.
>>122242428
Apparently the port of Dodonpachi DOJ on PS2 has a boss rush mode but I never played it on PS2.
>>122230574
Limit yourself to only playing two credits per day.
Does anyone have GwangeDash v1.0?
I never got the chance to download it before it was fucking scoured from the internet.
>>122245865
Not him but when playing through a bullet hell, I try to limit myself to at max 5 credits.
with gedosato
#define USE_LOTTES_CRT 1
figure out the ratio of screen res to game render res, to simulate a render box around 240x320 in size.
mine was 1080 / 320 = 3.375, ratio of box to vertical since the box takes up 100% of the vertical view
1080 / (4/3) = 810, number of actual pixels the render has horizontally
1920 / 810 = 2.37
so you want to divide the screen size between those two ratios for your pixelated resolution, pick whatever you like. the screenshot is with a ratio of 3.0
i tried guessing at how to set both axes precisely but just got crashes for my trouble, i don't really know the syntax or how the shader digests the parameters.
search for "float2 res = SCREEN_SIZE"
float2 res = SCREEN_SIZE / ratio;
>>122149717
Dimahoo
>>122242428
Warning Forever
>>122242428
rRootage takes the mechanics of certain shmups and applies them to I hope you like bosses
>graze motherfucker graze
was considerin getting into the touhou series but haven't a clue where'd be best to start.
i'm pretty associated with shmups; i've played the gradius and raiden series a bunch, and a bunch of other one-off titles, but i know next to nothing about TH
>>122257623
Touhou 6 or Touhou 7 are my personal recommendations for a starting point. 6 slightly moreso because it'd be a little harder to go back to after playing the games after it.
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/dariusburst-chronicle-saviours-launches-november-30-ps4-ps-vita-december-3-pc
>>122229498
Wrong, the second ship that can shoot in all directions is the only viable one in judgement, there aren't many dense patterns to avoid either
Shame they basicly abandoned the pc release, the ps4 version is just better in every way.
>>122215281
I'll be waiting for you anon
>>122244912
It's basicly impossible however, only like 2 people ever beat it.
>>122258447
>official site is now in english
HOLY SHIT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING
>>122258447
>Over 3000 stages
>>122259425
Misplaced a zero, or the classic "these stage backgrounds look identical but have variations in enemy patterns and different bosses"?
>>122259425
see >>122161352
first video a minute in
>that fucking map
>>122259968
That OST is going to be dank as FUCK
>>122246184
I would also kill a baby for a download of GwangeDash.
>>122258447
There is going to be a stream later on. Going to be a sleep when it starts.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/zuntata
do you prefer focusing on one game for a long time to get good at it or to mix it up and play different games casually a lot?
I would like to play the touhou games so much, but the long pauses bewteen stages are fucking me up, also how long it takes for bosses to channel their spellcards etc. makes retrying stages a pain in the dick
>>122264794
I have one game that is long term and a couple others to occasionally change it up if i'm getting burnout.
>>122230574
>>don't like repetition so always get bored when trying to git gud
Literaly change your retarded psychology, nothing in this world can be learnt to a competent level without some frustration and repetition but your desire to reach the end goal should over come everything else. Try just practicing trouble areas aswell using savestates/ level select/training whatever instead of full runs all the time.
>>122232019
>>122235321
This is part of learning the genre and something everyone experiences at first, with experience and practice your brains ability to pattern read and react accordingly combined with strategies etc will make you better.
I can't believe DBCS is really out in 3 weeks.
>>122257623
If you have experience with other shmups I would suggest starting with 7 or 11. I actually like 7's scoring gimmick, and 11 is just really fun all around.
>>122264794
I tend to mix it up a bit until one really grabs me and a spend a month or so focusing on it.
Good monring, /shmupg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRGIr8f4dM4
Have you played danmaku hells today?
>>122268363
It's almost 6 in the morning. I don't exactly play through a bullet hell until the afternoon.
>anons waking up early to keep the thread alive
Oh anons
>>122263438
stream is up, game looks fun
>>122268363
I wouldn't call it a bullet hell, more of a manic shooter, but I just tried out Zenohell.
I like it enough, it's definitely worth the dollar I spent to get it from a bundle, but I don't think it's worth the asking price on Steam.
>>122248129
Luck based
No way can you time surviving some of those patterns. Most notably the ones where you move through fast streams of bullets . Move through them and pray you don't get hit
Lame as fuck
Do you guys talk about run & guns like Metal Slug here or is it just too niche in an already niche genre?
What are your go-to's for a nice run?
>doing the best I have done so far in Mushi
>nose starts to itch really badly so I pause the game to scratch it
>without thinking just hit the fire button to return to the game
>the first menu option restarts the stage
WHY WOULD SOMEONE THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?
What if I never git gud?
>>122273682
Try harder. Drive yourself far enough into a corner that you have no choice but to succeed.
>>122273682
then you don't play enough, silly anon
>>122274098
>>122274119
Maybe I've been a fool to start with 1.5 (mite be harder) but man, it's so fucking fun.
>>122274586
there is only as much pressure to get good as you put on yourself, just get better in a way that's also fun to you. For some it's more easy 1ccs, for others it's practicing hard for 1 harder 1cc
>>122272741
I tend to avoid pausing at all cost, if only because I lose my momentum and always get a bullet to the face.
>>122277761
This, I'm many times unable to play like I was playing when I pause.
>schmup threads on /v/ reach bump limit
>this thread is almost dead
???
>>122279987
Wait what shmup thread, dont tell me I missed a thread on /v/.
>>122280101
I was posting mushihimesama threads everyday for the past 4 days to shill it, it always reached bumplimit
>>122280204
You wouldnt happen have a link with you? I cant believe I missed it.
Hello, what are some other series with cute 80s and 90s anime girls
>>122280246
I have only 2 bookmarked, sorry
>>>/v/316346469
>>>/v/316230580
We should maybe keep the mushihimeposting at vee, people also react negatively to /vg/
>>122280316
To this day, I still have no idea how to react to a giant version of Hikaru and Akane.
>original 1cc'd and now too easy
>maniac so hard I can't even get past stage 3
(mainly because I'm not used to w-power low damage)
what the fuck is up with me
>>122280909
after a few days daily threads are bannable on /v/
>>122280965
But I want to aggregate people to shmup games as if it were some kind of strange evil cult...
>>122262627
Dat Zuntata
>>122280909
I don't see what you're getting at. This isn't Mushihimesama general, it's shmup general, and besides just because a general exists on /vg/ doesn't mean a game can't be discussed on /v/.
>>122274586
>Maybe I've been a fool to start with 1.5 (mite be harder) but man, it's so fucking fun.
Normal original is wayyy to easy, I no missed it with 75 mill on my 2nd try however max original is proper mental, you have to point blank to score and bullets get super fast.
>>122282979
>I don't see what you're getting at
Audience, I'm a creepy guy who wants to revive this cult of shooting and take it to the stars.
Naw, just audience really, I'd like for the games to become more popular, what's the harm?
>>122284574
if you create a mushi thread on /v/ I'll go bump it
don't forget to include steam store link though
>>122284626
Naw, I heard it's a bannable offense to keep creating the same thread, I'd create one about arcade games and focus it on shmups, but I'm not that sure about it yet.
>>122284791
I need a thread to lurk ;-;
just create something along the lines of MAME and open it up with a dodonpachi pic
>>122284791
'cause rather than repeatedly making threads about something on /v/ you're supposed to make a thread on /vg/?
>>122284865
Gimme some time, let's see if we lure new players.
>>122284934
K, I created a silly shmup thread with thunderforce iv as OP image, let's shill guise
>>122285425
forgot link:
>>>/v/316591492
>>122285425
Yeah I saw it, unfortunately I cant stay but I already shilled Mushihimesama. Good luck anon.
>>122285579
posting in a bit about my favourite free schmup
>>122285638
nice
>>122280316
Cotton
TwinBee
Gunbird
Aero Fighters
Sengoku Blade
Keio Flying Squadron
Giga Wing
Touhou ProjectSentimental Shooting
>>122285914
>Giga Wing
I was trying to remember the name of that the other day.
I should get a dreamcast
https://code.google.com/p/friking-shark/
A flying shark remake, still have to try it though.
>>122285579
Well that was fun
>>122285579
Well that died fast.
>>122287075
what the fuck
that didn't even last an hour
/v/ too fast for your hobby
>>122287094
Well, it's not from lack of bumps, I bumped it like 5 minutes ago.
>>122287217
Says it was on page 10 before it died, isn't /v/ one of the two fastest boards on 4chan?
>>122287323
Yeah, but even /b/ takes more than 5 minutes to fall off. Maybe "waifu" in the OP causes an auto-sage?
>>122287323
For some strange reason it couldn't be bumped further. I posted on it once and it kept going to page 10.
>>122287491
Could be the waifu thing, oh well, we'll try again soon with better weapons and more carefully studied text
>>122286423
Ok this feels... easy, very easy, much easier than I remember the game being.
>>122287408
YES
WAIFU IS AUTOSAGED
that explains it
>>122287880
Text revised, I changed waifus for females, will post it somewhere in the future, better not insist so soon lest we raise suspicions over our evil plans
>>122288036
Great. Remember to have a Mushihime picture in the OP.
>>122288240
It's better I think if we don't mention it directly in the OP but do make sure to mention it in the first posts, so we cannot be accused of shit.
>>122288357
actually considering for how short the thread was up I don't think anybody would mind it being reposted at the moment
also the traffic should be highest around this time if I'm not mistaken, so you could try to convert more people at once
>>122288357
>so we cannot be accused of shit
/v/ is full of promotional threads 24/7.
The moderation is only against them if they're too abundant (like Indivisible's 4-5 threads a day).
On the other hand variety is good. So different OP pics would be alright if the OP includes Mushi's steam page.
>>122288761
Starting one with R-Type 2 OP image, mushi mentioners welcome, heh
>>122161352
>freedummmmmmm
>>122266845
>competitive level
>goal
>practice
>guy that just expressed interest in playing
Change YOUR retarded psychology.
>>122288986
Wait, bug princess spotted on /v/
>>122289182
Yep, I just noticed.
You guys and your Mushihimesama awareness drive are fucking pathetic. Nobody likes shmups live with it.
>>122289478
It sold well enough though
>>122289478
>Nobody likes shmups
They do, they just don't know yet
>>122120489
Spent my childhood playing shmup
But I can only remember raiden and demonstar
Forgot the rest>tfw pc only fag
>>122289878
>pc only
Emulate everything
EVERYTHING
>>122289478
>Nobody likes shmups live with it.
They're niche as fuck. Most people don't know modern shmups exist, so they can't decide if they like or dislike them.
>>122289878
Pc saw some games like Raptor and Tyrian.
>>122290290
>>122289580
That's preposterous. They're niche because people have seen them and said 'no thanks'.
>>122290489
They're niche because if you GIS a game that's maintained it's popularity one of the first results is pic related. People don't seem to understand that a bullet hell on its hardest difficulty is going to have a lot of bullets.
>>122290489
That's a lie, I liked them the moment I discovered them, not many people even know of them or have tried them.
I'm a newcomer, you could say.
>>122272583
>Luck based
Are you discounting the whole thing just because he had a few lucky moments?
Just because you can't comprehend that people can dodge patterns like that, doesn't mean it's impossible. You're not the baseline for comparison and there are people that are dozens if not hundreds of times better than you.
>>122290671
Haha, I remember back when that video called "Hardest video game boss ever" or something was making the rounds
>>122290240
Well yeah
I remembered having neogeo installed on my pentium 1
>>122290820
I believe a lot of people probably got scared to play shmups because of that video
>>122290786
He isn't just dodging on the fly in that video, he's doing a precise movement pattern that was the result of years of planning and testing.
>>122291839
That's all high-level play in a nutshell though. The experience that guy has accumulated is what makes it high-level in the first place.
>>122272583
In case you're not familiar with the game's mechanics, activating a hyper gives you a brief period of invincibility. He has precisely routed bullet cancels and invincibility abuse from hypers and bombs to barely squeeze through the most dangerous attacks so he doesn't have to go through the bullets any more than he has to. It's still no less insane but luck doesn't have that much to do with it, aside from RNG in some of the bullet patterns.
>>122290290
the more I look at that pic the more I'm laughing cause of the horrible anatomy
I'm looking forward to Muchi Muchi Pork!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPH8HMBCFwA
>>122291029
Yeah, it's unfair really. I was iffy about shmups after seeing that video myself, but then I actually tried them and realized it's not that bad at all. I mean it still kicked my ass but in a much fairer and less overwhelming way.
I hate it when people respond to "what are shmups like?" with videos of TLBs and final bosses. It gives a bad impression and probably scares otherwise interested people away.
I kind of wish that this whole "ultra hardcore genre" reputation could go away. It makes it harder to interest people in the genre because they probably think that they can't play it at all unless they practice 6 hours a day for years.
>>122295340
When I made the thread I wanted to lure people in with videos of thunderforce, sadly thread went to shit for having the word "waifu" on it.
We should display videos of the games on original mode or even more traditional shmups so people aren't afraid and think we are some sort of autistic robots
>>122295601
Why would you want to lie to people like that?
>>122295601
As an autistic robot, I actually find traditional shmups to be harder. In bullet hell/manic shooters/whatever I can get a shitty 1cc with a little prior knowledge and dodging skills, but Gradius and Raiden and Darius fuck me up.
>>122295998
Lie to people about?
>>122296005
Some are easier.
>>122296005
Depends on the game, a little.
For instance Darius Twin and Darius Burst were pretty easy iirc but they were made for the home market rather than eating quarters
And I guess some people are intimidated by the bullet hell bullet patterns and want to ease into it?
>>122296230
Lie about not being autistic robots
>>122295601
That's why I'd like to see Deathsmiles ported to Steam soon (well, aside from my insatiable love for Deathsmiles in general).
The game's easy with difficult selection to make it even easier. Barring the EX stage, the final stage is the only time it gets hard. It could do well of showing that not all shmups are insane bullet curtains. Maybe newcomers would have enough fun blowing shit up easily for the first 20 minutes that they'd feel motivated enough to try and push for a clear when it's just the one final stage standing in their way.
I might be in the minority but I actually love playing for score in that game, too. I don't know what it is but Deathsmiles was the first game that I researched into the scoring mechanics and practiced scoring routes for.
>>122296328
Funny that you should mention that, Deathsmiles is also the first game where I bothered to go for high scores.
Oh shit, that means we are really autistic robots.
Art books when
>>122290820
>that video introduced me to STGs
No regrets
>>122272583
>Luck based
>No way can you time surviving some of those patterns. Most notably the ones where you move through fast streams of bullets . Move through them and pray you don't get hit
>Lame as fuck
He spent 7 years working for that clear you fucking idiot and no not luck based.
Read the guys interview http://shmuplations.com/scorer2/
hey guys here's your daily reminder that dot eater rank is stupid and treasure should be ashamed
>>122289165
>Change YOUR retarded psychology.
Fuck me you can't read son, he said he gets bored trying to git gud because of repetition I'm telling him learn to enjoy the grind because getting good is impossible without it. Now fuck off you oxygen thieving cunt you probably have mushihimesama novice modes to credit feed.
Well, another depressing session with DOJBL. 2 misses in stage 2-3, BEFORE the power-up carrier in the start.
Jesus, I will never get the 2-ALL. Only good thing that came out was some 2-1 chain route optimization.
I really wish I could get the 2nd loop clear this weekend...
...Then onto the actual 2-ALL.
I probably should blow off some steam and try tomorrow. Start working on the game, for example.
>>122292220
Lot of shmups become very strict about routes on high-level play.
>>122297872
Same here. Although, I learned to prefer shooting over dodging.
>>122299798
How so?
Quick question for anyone who might know, does the system11 shmup forum have a limit on the length of posts? I'm working on my Gothic wa Mahou Otome english guide and it's turning out quite long, so I'd like to know ahead of time if it'll fit all in one post or if I should reserve two or a few of the first posts in the topic when I post it.
>>122301886
I'd block off 3 posts for it. There's limits. Not sure what it is, but it exists.
so how many hours a day of schmups you guys play?
I've started playing the day after mushihimesama came out and I play for at least 3-5 hours
>>122302827
Usually only have time for 2.
>>122302265
Thanks. I've never written a guide for anything before. So many buttons and menus to explain. It's not nearly done yet, but here's the current word count.
>>122302827
I've been playing Mushihimesama for about an hour or so a day since it came out. Skipped a day a couple of times, though. I can almost no-death up until stage 4 on 1.0 Original.
>>122301552
stages 1 through 3 are retard boring on dot eater
>>122302827
More or less 1.
>>122302827
If I'm actually trying for a goal, be it a 1cc or a higher score, usually 2 hours every day that I can manage it.
Otherwise, I'll flit between several different games throughout the week, never spending more than a credit or so on one.
>>122302827
during the week usually 2-3, on weekends sometimes 5 or more
>>122304856
Scoring is always fun, getting a 1cc can get more time
>>122302827
1, ultimate comfy.
>>122302827
2-5 hours, when I feel like going for a session.
I take short breaks, work out, and eat during that time rather than grinding it in one sitting. With other games I don't really break it up as much, but STGs tire you out quickly.
>>122302827
I play in short bursts but several times, can't exactly say how much, I should play more.
>>122135984
here
I made it! My 3rd 1cc. First cleared it with two credits yesterday and then learned how to preserve lives on final boss pretty quickly - I play with console port mentality (with 3 credits) and only after beating games like that use save states/practice mode. Even had no miss run up to 6th stage, though my current 1cc run is pretty crappy and I barely survived it.
>>122306489
Congrats.
Now play the superior game, ESP Ra.De
I hate Pink Sweets. The rank system in this game is absolutely bullshit. The rank system in Ibara Kuro is fine but this game's rank system is EVIL. And the only way to legitimately 1cc the game is to trigger infinite lives.
>>122307043
Thanks, I love esprade, but I'm afraid I'm too scrub for it - from 4th stage it's way over my head.
>>122307369
I don't like PS either but love Muchi Muchi Pork! It's much more forgiving and accessible.
>scrubs using more than one credit on first loops
you shouldn't credit feed until you 1cc the first loop
then you can start working on the 2nd loop and scoring however you want
>>122308501
Credit-feeding can be useful to practice latter stages if the game lacks a training mode.
>>122308063
As far as I know, I have no clue who succeeded on no missing Pink Sweets.
>>122308883
just make a savestate lmao
>>122309716
>PCB
>savestates
>>122310193
>he bought a PCB but is so bad he can't 1cc
>>122310572
this, topkek
the only reason to own a pcb is if you're rich and just love having things or if you're a god-tier player competing for world-class scores
>>122272596
pls respond, I know one of you 1cc'd a Metal Slug at least once
>>122290786
>>122291839
>>122292220
not that guy but how the hell do you even dodge at that speed anyways, how the hell do you even form a plan to dodge at that speed?
is it just trial and error until you get lucky with a movement that's able to dodge?
>>122312197
A few things :
- You know already what the attack pattern is, so you know where it's going to go/how to behave
- You are extremely comfortable with the size of the hitbox vs the rest of the ship sprite
- You are already anticipating the move. It's not "wait to see if he shoots and then try to react", it's "he's going to be shooting here and I need to be moving" before it happens.
>>122310572
>>122311478
Have fun keeping threads alive.
>>122309716
>making a savestate until you 1cc the first loop
>>122313049
>the thread's going to die because *I'm* going to leave because they laughed at my PCB purchase
>only REAL PCB owners like me keep these incredibly emulation-based threads on one of the most promiment piracy-userbase forums alive!
>>122313391
i think he means if you guys keep acting like assholes in the thread people won't want to come in
>>122313913
A few jabs and chuckling is hardly full blown asshole behavior, ESPECIALLY on 4chan. It's not a hugbox; please expect a few bloodied noses. Some headbutting and abrasion is literally the only thing 4chan offers these days over reddit or system11.
Who woulda thunk shmuppers would die in 1 hit?
>>122313913
Well being an asshole comes with anonymity, not much we can do there. You get used to it after a while.
Cut it out with the elitism and shaming. I see this everywhere else when it comes to shmup discussions, and it's getting pretty annoying. It really doesn't matter if someone practices uses savestates, practice modes, or just credit feeding. It really doesn't matter if they're getting 1CCs, high scores, or clearing loops. The point is they're playing the game and enjoying it.
>>122313391
You know, having a PCB is awesome, no reason to be dicks to people because of it, he means have fun keeping the threads alive because if we start being dicks we'll be alone.
>>122314935
>use a save state
>lol savestates on PCB
>lol PCB
>QUIT BEING DICKS TO PEOPLE THAT OWN PCB
Don't get your panties in a bunch. If the PCB people can't handle some shade being thrown their way, then they should shut their dickpipes about savestates.
>>122314571
No.
>>122314571
I'll say this right now though, after 500 posts this general is leagues better than the vert-vs-hort autismfestival that's happening in /vr/.
And people unironically believe /vr/'s objectively the best board.
>>122316843
I know, this place has been alright so far, which is why I don't want to see it slip into a shit-flinging fest.
>>122316843
I like Hori more but I can't deny that Vert is superior for the purposes of competitive play/scoring/etc.
Hori seems more fun for like a "story mode"/game you play just to beat/win.
Exceed 1st seems pretty gosh darn awful.
Managed to get that NB 1-ALL. Still a bit disappointed because I didn't manage to break 200m in the 1st loop. I died a couple of times on stage 4 and stage 5, most of them could've been avoided. Those were really annoying to have because stages 1,2 and 3 went pretty much perfectly. I guess I know which stages to practice next.
Also managed to loop, so I guess this is some kind of progress? I'll have to start practicing the 2nd loop too now.
>>122314349
>Who woulda thunk shmuppers would die in 1 hit?
>>122320163
Why did you cut out your score name?
>>122316843
Thank god this general exist now. I really hated seeing autism being physically manifested on /vr/.
>>122321358
/vr/ is chill most of the time but there are a few ultra mega autists that like to ruin everything for everyone
>>122320727
It seemed rude to keep it in. I mean, it's not really relevant to this place and all. If it annoys you I could keep it in next time.
If you're active in the community then you'll see me post the uncut version elsewhere anyways.
>>122321997
Naw, it's not rude. Besides, it's only 3 letters. It's not like tripfagging imo. And this is like a little chunk of our own community, so I have no desire to check system11/subreddits/Neogaf/gamefaqs/etc for other info.
>>122322226
If it's okay then I'll leave my initials in the next time.
Any Fightcade users here? Anyone want to play Twinkle Star Sprites?
>>122185259
Recca is awesome. I need to buy that when I get a 3DS. I know Pink Sweets snatches that bomb mechanic from it, but I keep forgetting to play it and get deeper into that game.
>>122185223
Does the 3DS Virtual Console have a way to reset games? Recca has that Hard Mode that opens when beating the final boss and resetting the NES at the "To Be Continued..." screen.
>>122326813
It does.
>>122331801
made a fixed version of this for you
>be under heavy fire fire, panic as a result
>fly through ridiculously dense patterns of bullets by complete accident
I never thought I could feel smugness, relief and shame all at once
are non-bullet hell shooters dead?
>>122334793
>a new Darius is coming out
>are non-bullet hell shooters dead
No
>>122335118
damn
>>122301886
>>122303389
Can I ask something?
Why is this girl have low score multiplier? Is it because she is technically free?
>>122337365
Which girl?
>>122337365
>>122337414
forgot picture
>>122337365
>>122337498
I'm really not sure why. I have her but I've never used her.
I'm sure she has something to do with that toothbrushing thing that Cave had going a while ago, but I don't know the details on that. Maybe she's just a novelty card or something.
>>122338029
>that toothbrushing thing that Cave had going
Ah yes I know exactly what you're talking about
Mmm hmm
I hate trying to practice Mushihimesama (both games). Because every time I die even once between the first and second stages something tells me to rage quit. And I keep listening to that side which annoys me so much. I'll never got gud if I keep listening to that side of me!
>>122338910
http://promo.ghm.cave.co.jp/gomafes2/
This thing.
>>122339430
Not even the strangest thing Cave has made
>>122339430
What am I looking at?
>>122338979
More games should have a practice mode like Touhou 15's pointdevice mode. It is almost perfect for easily practicing stages and bosses.
>>122339430
You know, I always wondered what was up with these images. I'm convinced it's some kind of fetish now.
>>122341143
Click the screen to brush her teeth. Brush her teeth until the meter fills up, then wait for it to cool down. Then repeat. It was some sort of promotional thing that Cave did last month, or a couple months ago, I guess.
>>122341993
It's just another excuse to draw sexually suggestive images of girls and white fluids without actually being pornographic, same as girls and ice cream or whatever.
I blame -monogatari for spreading it
>>122342192
Oh Cave.
>>122316843
Thats because this thread here is only full of danmaku tards.
>>122342192
That event happened to celebrate their mahouotome anniv
>>122343659
That's not true at all.
I'm a Gradius/R-Type tard and I've been here since day one.
>>122343730
Sure thing, thats also why the whole thread is just about
>caveshit
>caveshit
>more caveshit
Oh shit, /vg/ has Shmup generals again.
>>122343730
What do you think of Gradius V? Because I fucking love Gradius V.
>>122343890
So start talking about other shmups if you want to. It's not like there's some rule against it.
>>122343890
I literally do not understand the salt in your boypussy right now. Mushihimesama just came out, and was the impetus to getting enough attention and people to even HAVE a shmup general again. If you want to talk about Gradius or R-Type, why don't you try contributing and making some posts about them? I'll gladly reply to them if you do.
I'd even play the same game as you and enter scores and stuff. But all you're doing is sitting here and crying that people aren't talking about stuff you wanna talk about. So take the initiative, anon. Leave your /vr/ mentality behind, please.
>>122343926
Gradius V is fucking legit as hell. My favorite Gradius is actually Gaiden though. I love being able to pick from a variety of ships, as well as scramble the order of my power ups.
>>122344085
>My favorite Gradius is actually Gaiden though.
You my nigga. I fucking love Gradius Gaiden!
But which Gradius has your favourite moai heads
I cannot wait for the new Darius.
I just found out it offers multiple monitor support so you can play it in giganigga screen mode. I don't have enough money for this shit.
>>122344432
Also Gaiden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXkn2sBAgng
>>122344085
>all you're doing is sitting here and crying
I wasnt crying, its you who is crying.
I was just replying to a post which was crying abot /vr/.
I dont even care about these threads. The genre is dead anyway. No need to listen to retarded waifu freaks.
>>122344593
>I wasnt crying, its you who is crying.
>>122344451
There's a new Darius?! Where was I these past days?
>>122344847
I don't know where, but welcome home brother.
Comes out Nov 30 I think.
>>122344847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13qYSbGKJw
Was announced in August but last night they showed it off and provided release dates/more info.
Anyone ever try this or Extreme?
I think its a pretty neato idea.
>>122120983
if you're fine with arranges, this cd has a lot of good tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxn44OzUsvQ
>>122347439
I honestly had no idea what genre it was.
One of those things I just kept passing on the shelf.
>>122349710
It's hard to describe.
Basically your ship is a bomb and you need to blow it up at the right moment to cause a chain reaction to blow up other shit.
>>122350683
Also a music/rhythm game?
I can dig that.
In A.D. 2015
Bump was beginning
Anyone here checked out Luftrausers? I threw 2 hours into it yesterday and I thought it was fantastic. I can't seem to kill the blimp, however.
>>122354617
Literally have only one mission I still have to clear before I unlock the [CLASSIFIED].
It's the 250000 score in SFMT mode with a random engine, shits fucking impossible.
>>122354942
>scored over 200000000 in Ketsui
I have faith in you
>>122355074
That's not me though, I can't even get to stage 3 of Ketsui without needing to continue
>>122355135
Oh, I saw the blanked out bit and assumed that was also you.
Keep those engines warm
>>122354942
>It's the 250000 score in SFMT mode with a random engine
Ouch. Are you allowed to choose the other two parts? It's a bit of a buzzkill, but you could reset until you get an engine you like.
Regardless, I have faith in you. And I have faith that one day I won't get sniped by an ace while trying to kill the blimp.
Why is the steam version of Ikrauga so much worse then the Gamecube version? I fucking wish it had the conquest mode that let you play each level in parts so you didn't have to go through the entire stage each time you wanted to practice something.
Honestly I'd just play the GC version, but I'm so used to KB over a controller now days.
>>122355309
It doesn't matter which engine I get, I just die before I can get anything done. Only way to get that high of a score is to get a max multiplier going and kill a rare target like an ace submarine
Doesn't help that more often than not you get shit like a battleship or for crying out loud I just got an ace submarine spawn but like 8 normal aces at the same time.
>>122149926
nice, I was just about to ask if anyone had this.
last time I was in a shmup thread was 3 years ago, and I remember having a ton of fun with that archive.
>>122272596
man, I think the metal slug games are fun as fuck but I'm really bad at them
they make me feel like too much of a badass, so I get cocky and run up on guys and cut them more often than I should. I often lose 2 lives in the first level
>>122272596
>>122312121
No 1ccs, but a friend and I used to blast through 3 and X on occasion. Need to bug him about doing it again...
>>122355618
Just emulate the GC version and play with keyboard.
Dolphin is super stable.
>>122355618
>>122359975
But can you play the GC version with triple monitor widescreen?
>>122360505
You might be able to. I haven't dicked with the settings much because I'm not a huge fan.
Could I get some recommendations on what my first 1CC should be? As in, a good entry level shmup?
>>122360853
That'll depend on your tastes, available systems and background with vidya.
All that said, I'll still blindly recommend Garegga.
>>122360853
My first was 1ALL DoDonPachi, there's a lot of slowdown, life extends and bombs and it's easier than it looks.
>>122360954
>Could I get some recommendations on what my first 1CC should be?
>I'l still blindly recommend Garegga.
You're a monster.
>>122360853
Crimzon Clover novice mode.
>>122344432
>But which Gradius has your favourite moai heads
IV has without question the best moai stage of all time.
>>122360853
Do you like cute girls?
>>122360853
Any game you like.
>>122343890
Talk about thunderforce then
>>122361891
Sure?
>>122362731
Deathsmiles would be a good one then
Mushi could have less users than we thought, I don't want cave to go away from steam, guise
>>122363219
Maybe people refunded it
>>122360853
Touhou LLC. The last time I played it, it was much easier than EoSD which was my first entry into the genre. On Normal, of course.
>>122365019
LLC? Are you sure you got the initials right?
>>122365019
>>122365249
Anon either meant DDC or LLS, both of which are good imo, though LLS is harder to get running.
>>122354336
So how is Zero Wings. Worth playing aside from the intro?
>>122367387
Not great desu. Worst of toaplan that I can think of.
>>122365249
>>122365438
Whoops. Yeah, I meant LLS.
>>122367795
That's a shame, I guess the game is best remembered as some weird piece of history and a really catchy song instead.
Am I stupid to try to pick up every score item in the ground in mushihimesama?
Truth be told I'm enjoying 1.5 more because it has auto pick like futari, should I leave them be?
>>122369782
Don't go out of your way to get them, they're worth almost nothing compared to chaining/pointblanking
>>122370009
So basically i was being autistic
What's the best Type in Gradius V for a 1cc?
>>122370009
Not him but now I feel like an idiot. Because this fucks me over when playing.
>>122373702
Greetings fellow autist, how many stages have you cleared perfectly picking up every fucking thing?
I'm the guy who was picking all :3
>>122373848
3 stages. Typically I can also no miss those 3 stages too. It's until the 4th stage that fucks me over.
>>122373921
oh shit, we are like brothers from different mothers, I was thinking on keeping up the bad work though. Mite make us awesome players.
>>122360853
go play Kamui
>>122360853
Lords of Thunder on saga cd was my first 1cc.
>>122370009
Hunting wasps in Donpachi has lead me astray
Is there a way to use Gedosato to select another monitor? Mushihimesama will only use my primary monitor, which is NOT my portrait monitor.
>>122377756
At least you're being less autistic than us, we are picking literally everything that pops in the screen
>>122380408
I dunno, try Disco Feveron so your collecting instinct is productive and because it's groovy as hell?
>>122380963
I did in the past, shit was so cash, I'm the thread's moralfag, tough, so I will not do it anymore unless I grab a pcb
>>122381183
Yeah, that's cool.
I really hope it'll get a steam port because I've got a friend who will love it but unfortunately I don't think it'll get ported.
Ahhh, much better.
Is this the best cover for a shmup ever made?
>>122383739
I'm not sure but it's damn good.
>>122383739
>Is this the best cover for a shmup ever made?
this one is better
>>122384764
It is certainly eye-catching.
>>122384764
Damm, I totally forgot about that one.
There are no banjos in the game though, how misleading.
>>122381519
2 blurry for me still. I'm keeping the game as it is.
Hey veegee, what's so special about campaing ver of Dodonpachi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv1JK2Ezk9U
I think I read there's only one or two of 'em, what else can you tell me?
>>122180324
I just played through nanostray again, and you were right about the bosses. Shit took too long to take down even with the Ion Strike. If they had around 75-60% of their health they would have been perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCJ7Yw9sChY
I hope they release this one also, I have it on 360 but it's so much better to have it on pc.
>>122387746
>Also called Special Version, or DDP BLUE ROM, this is a special PCB handed out to the winner of a DoDonPachi scoring contest held by Cave to promote the game's Saturn port, in which each participant was asked to submit the highest score they could reach within a three-days period. It is essentially the same game with an extreme increase in difficulty, the addition of a Hyper Mode (a primitive form of the feature later seen in the sequel DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou) and a blue (rather than red) title screen. Extremely rare and sought after, a single specimen have been confirmed to exist so far.
>>122371228
Type 1. People that hit like 7+ loops all use it because you can stick your options in place and completely trivialize a stage if you know the layout.
The last three stages spike so high in difficulty that it's discouraging though. Like seriously.
I've been slacking on Mushihimesama lately. I need to get back to it. If I could just get a few more days of good practice in, I'm certain I could get the 1CC.
>>122393653
>posting old hags
>>122393653
>sensitive about her age
>17
Is she a dog or something?
>>122387746
Fucksake retard you can literally see all the differences in the video.
>>122393653
>>122395149
What's the blue haired one called? I already like that one.
>>122381390
>>122381183
It's perfect on mame you couple of sad cunts.
Nobody likes Rosa. If I wasn't already so in love with Casper, and if Windia and Sakura didn't exist after that, then I would totally love Rosa. ... Poor Rosa.
>>122394010
It seems to be some sort of Japanese cliche, I think. Haruka from Senran Kagura is the same age as Rosa and also hates being called old.
>>122395412
Please don't bully our resident moralfag. No amount of carrot or stick will pull him over to the piracy side.
In other news, GWANGE DASH WHERE
>>122395281
Do we need to tell the boy that I was bumping by starting conversation and I had no better thing to say or is he satisfied with calling people retards?
>>122395412
>mame
>perfect
heh
>>122197409
Is tyrian 2000 worth a try?
>>122395390
This girl, you mean? Her name is Cattleya.
>>122395419
Deleted and reposted this because in the profile, I originally typo'd "Reco" as "Reko".
>>122395752
For dangun it is.
so that archive that was posted earlier has shmupmame 2.2.
is it better than 4.4 or is it just not up to date?
>>122395794
I like it. It's an euroshmup with health and shields - if you're into that sort of thing it's definitely a nice game.
Be sure to try the unlockable difficulty options if the stock ones are too easy.
>>122395752
Unless you're going for a WR tier score MAME is perfectly fine for pre-SH3
>>122395830
Damn it, why does she have to share a name with the worst Queen's Blade character?
>>122395830
How many grils are in this in total senpai?
>>122396626
A lot. If I had to make a rough estimate, I'd say 100 at the very least. I think a lot of them are OCs, but there are also event and gacha cards of other Cave girls, such as the Deathsmiles girls, Reco, and AI.
>>122398390
That's a lotta waifus. Do you even get to pick the one you want, or is it like a random gachapon and you just end up with whatever?
>>122395794
It's alright. I'm not much for the health+shields shmups, but I liked it more than I usually like them.
>>122399602
When you first start the game, you get to choose one of the five in pic related to start with, and I think the game might give you a few free gacha draws to start with as well. You gain more girls from completing some stages with high ranks, weekly contests and special stages, various gachas, and such.
>>122401398
Blue hair > light purple > brown hair > rose in hair > green loli
>>122401398
Blah, guess I should've included their names. From left to right: Plumeria, Cattleya, Ranan, Souffle (green loli), Rosalie.
>>122401707
Rosalie > Plumeria > Souffle > Cattleya > Ranan
>>122403217
Why is Ranan worst girl? Just for being MC?
>>122401398
Do the girls have different shooting styles? Like Concentrated fire, spread shot, homing, etc? This factors heavily into my choice for best girl.
>>122403510
Nah, she's just the least pretty to me I guess. She's not bad, she just doesn't have anything to make her stand out among the others.
She kind of looks like Rin from Little Busters. That's cool I guess.
>>122403641
The shooting style depends on the particular card, rather than the girl. A girl can have different cards with different shot properties (for example, the shot type for regular Souffle will behave differently than the shot type for swimsuit Souffle).
What DOES remain consistent is a girl's element. Ranan is fire, Cattleya is water, Souffle is wind, Plumeria is light, and Rosalie is darkness. Element determines how much damage you deal to enemies and how many points you get from destroying enemies. The elemental charts are as follows:
Fire > Wind > Water > Fire
Darkness > Light > Darkness
Note that the Light/Darkness and Fire/Water/Wind are neutral towards each other (for example, fire against darkness is simply neutral). Attacking with weaknesses will net bonus damage and points, while attacking with resisted elements (using fire on water, for example, or water on wind) results in reduced shot damage and gimped points. Light and Darkness do not resist anything.
For Mushihimesama what shot types am I supposed to be using.
People are saying A+C does the most damage but I'm not sure if C should be full atuo or rapid full auto.
Also does tapping C while holding A do more damage or is it just the same as holding both?
>>122404646
Ah alright. I just downloaded it, so this helps. Putting my faith in the LIGHT. Plumeria has the biggest plums, so we in there now.
>>122404819
>For Mushihimesama what shot types am I supposed to be using.
For scoring purposes I mostly see W shot. I think because it does the most damage when point blanked.
>>122405054
By shot type I mean button layout. Like in the options there's Shot, Full Auto, Rapid auto etc etc. Not sure what I should be using.
Also I've been playing with S-Power since I heard it apparently does the most damage when focused. Only Shmup I've ever 1CC'd was crimzon clover novice so I'm trying to clear original arcade on mushi atm. Up to stage 5 with no miss so it's going alright.
>>122404646
Weird, I just started the game and it only lets me pick between Ranan, Cattleya and Souffle.
>>122405051
Alright, cool. I took Souffle as my starter.
Let me explain boss fights real quick. Bosses will shoot out multiple orbs of different elements. To effectively fight a boss, you must shoot at orbs with an element that is weak to the shot you're using. For example, using a light shot, you will fire at a darkness orb and destroy it, which launches a counterattack at the boss.
The most effective way to fight a boss is to destroy orbs that are the same element as the boss itself. The boss's element will be pictured next to his health bar. For example, if the boss is water type, the easiest way to beat him is to equip a wind shot type and destroy the water orbs, which will deal bonus damage to the boss and also cancel out some bullets on the higher difficulties.
Sorry, I'm about to leave for a bit, so that explanation was pretty slapped together. Hopefully it makes enough sense to go off of.
>>122405598
Really? Huh. I guess I was wrong then, sorry. Makes sense though now that I think about it, light and darkness shot types are a bit rarer than the other three elements, and they're not as helpful early in the game since more stuff is weak to the fire/water/wind until lategame.
>>122405916
It's okay. Looks like you don't even play as the girls themselves, but some winged homo. JAPAAAAAAAAAAN
I have a question about recording runs. What is more acceptable: recording while playing or recording a replay? I want to be sure that i don't do anything wrong before making any videos.
>>122406431
It would be better to record a replay, since you'll know how the run goes beforehand.
Just wanted to remind you /shmupg/ that this exists and it's totally free!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE3qdbCAOrI
http://se-made.com/finalboss.html
>>122406431
If you're doing a high-quality video, recording a replay playback is more convenient than recording hours and hours of shit you don't want to see and having to set up recording every time you play.
Howewer, MAME replays aren't 100% reliable at syncing when played back, and some games have buggy replay functions that may desync, so if you need to be sure that your PB run will get succesfully recorded without any desyncs you want to record all runs.
>>122406883
Looks pretty neat, I can see a lot of references to other shmups aswell, going to try it out right now.
>>122406418
Yeah, it's unfortunate but I guess you get used to it. It's a bit cringeworthy though since he's an obvious "generic male to self insert as" and is otherwise just not necessary.
Plus they all call him "Master", except Souffle who calls him, of course, "Oniichan".
>>122406883
Something about the way that looks reminds me of White Butterfly. Maybe it's just the orange, I don't know.
>have a run go much better than usual
>take notice, think "Hey, I'm getting better!"
>immediately start doing worse, lose two lives in quick succession
Remember guys, dont think aboutthe game
>>122414850
The pressure gets to you. Whenever I'm close to 1CCing a game for the first time, I get a huge adrenaline rush. Sometimes it helps and I get into a great rhythm, and sometimes it crushes me and I mess up everything.
>>122416870
>sometimes it crushes me and I mess up everything
Happens to me every single fucking time I'm recording something good.
>>122416870
It sure sucks, doesnt it? Happened to me too when I was trying to 1CC MoF.
>get to Kanako's last spellcard with a truckload of lives
>think I can just bombspam if things get too hairy>bombs dont even affect her at all
>get a bit nervous, start losing lives on a spellcard I usually do well on
But building confidence and learning to be consistent is all part of gitting gud, Rome wasnt built in a day after all.
Any new info on Raiden V?
I hope its no gonna be stuck on the xbone desu.
>>122421395
Yeah, it sucks. Just gotta hope you overcome it or had enough resources left in reserve to make up for whatever screw-ups it causes.
Most of my first-time Touhou 1CCs were done with no lives left at the end. Took a few minutes to calm down after those ones.
Do you think the mushihimesama ever accidently stepped on a bug
Graze that page 10
What shmup has the best grazing mechanics?
>>122429431
Shikigami no Shiro, where your firepower and score multipliers are directly determined by how close you are to something that can kill you.
Is Stage 5 of Mushihimesama generally considered harder or easier than stage 4? Normal Original mode. I'm currently trying to practice surviving stage 4, and I'm just curious about stage 5 since I don't have much experience with it.
>you can change the controls in Nanostray 2 so you can move around with the control pad instead of the stylus
Holy shit
Why didnt you anons tell me this
>>122435135
Probably because I played it once, didn't like the controls and haven't touched it since?
Thanks anon I might fire it up next weekend
I'm probably not going to get a satisfying answer to this, because it's mostly just my problem, but whatever.
I have trouble sticking with a game. Practicing the current section that I'm stuck on, over and over, wears me down pretty quick. So I find myself wanting to jump over to other games.
Is there some advice for keeping some spice in playing?
>>122438341
>>122438341
>>122438341
New thread, lads! A few posts early but this one is autosage and grazing p10.
>>122438446
I thought we had to 750?
>>122438446
Anon you're like 47 posts too early, bump limit here is 750.
>>122437983
You can't just do nothing but practice, you gotta have some fun too.
Do at least one full run a day. 1cc attempt, score run, gimmick run, credit feed, doesn't matter, just enjoy the fucking game.
If you want to mix things up then try picking ships you don't usually pilot or game modes you don't usually try, just to step outside of your comfort zone.
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>>122438658
Lord knows I wasn't going to make one, and I'm going to bed soon, so I don't mind. This prevents me from worrying /shmupg/ will disappear over night.
