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>>121458925
Because it always bears repeating
>AC7 Never
>HD Collection Never
>PS4/PC/XBOX Port NEVER
>Don't believe the statbars
>You chucklefucks let it die again
Yo Buddy
>see a 1700 cost Azusa on our team with [Skilled Beauty]
Boy's got some good taste and some dedication.He only scored about 11000, it was a little sad to see he'd had a bad round.
![[Coalgirls]_The_Idolmaster_26_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3075CE12].mkv_snapshot_09.05_[2015.10.25_15.16.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GAT8Wlt.jpg "[Coalgirls]_The_Idolmaster_26_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3075CE12].mkv_snapshot_09.05_[2015.10.25_15.16.13].jpg")
>flying Makoto all the time
>people hating on idols
>get hunted
>do bad every game
My heart aches for them.
>>122071523
>I want a girlfriend
>I want to be an idol
Made me laugh a bit
adorable
>>122073882
>>122063219
I'm not used to the format and I'd rather read from the beginning since it's been a while. Didn't there used to be just a link to all of them in order or something?
Here comes the maintenance!
What d'ya think is in the box huh?
>>122075775
>Here comes the maintenance!
Wait what? What did I miss? Is this TDM tourney already over? I thought it was longer than that.
>>122076349
17th to 19th. They just annoucned it ahead of time.
>>122076349
hmmm and the Griphen/Harrier skins are down, guess the maintenance was supposed to be in that pane....
>Search for rooms many many times
>Only one room with host's MR comparable to mine, but restricted to prop only
>And a few rooms with MR obviously lower than mine
Come on, I just wanna complete some challenges, not club seals.
Playing AC4 for the first time. Just beat that mission where you have to take down the solar power plant, then stonehenge starts firing on the area so you have to drop into the canyon and make your escape south.
I got fucking goosebumps, that bit was so cool.
>>122078265
>A wild clubber appears
>You have been removed from this room.
>5 days left on comona hardmode challenge
>Im still at 29% on the stage 2 one of it
>I want it done
>But I also want to get the F-14D Lancer in NTDM
Fuck. I can miss a day right?
>>122078441
Was pretty good.
Has everybody got their cocoon plane?
>>122079834
Not here.
Don't really care about it so I'm fine if it doesn't drop.
You guys think ACZ inspired MGS:PW's story?
>>122071523
>implying people actually give a fuck about idols
If you're getting shot down it's because you're not good at the game.
>>122074743
It used to be uploaded on batoto, but now the fuckers want you to register and shit.
Cariburn seems to be a hot topic with the Japs on twitter. Could it be?
>>122080730
No.
>>122075775
HER TIME HAS FINALLY COME
SCREENCAP THISand feel free to repost when it's not true
>>122084453
A Kangaroo roundel to go with it would be nice too.
Damn it, the 80k credit challenge is Co-op only! Mean trick.
>>122075775
Nothing, nothing at all
This is finally dead, Namco will just milk those fucking whales and run with the moneyto make AC7FUCK YOU, I CAN DREAM
I hope the sandnigger makes a bullying PSA video.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/723578-ace-combat-infinity/72761014?page=10
> Take out PJ for NTDM like usual
> ADFX-01 -PX- on enemy team
> << I've got a girlfriend back at the base. >>
> Wait for lasers
> He's running ECM
> I try to aggro him during the middle of the match when the fleets move a bit closer
> He doesn't bite.
> I continue aiming for the FB-22, which dodges ok but not well, since he's the top scorer and I want my fuel
> My team wins
> Miss out on MVP by 600 points to my FB-22
>>122071523
Nah, it's just the situation. Even though everytime I flew Makoto did not score well (both times the rivals had skilled attackers that took turns getting behind me, that teamwork was impressive, or got harassed by the multirole doing support defense).
Just got a game where I was the lowest cst attacker in my team with LASM Ami and at some point I had two fighters tailing me and it looked like pic related. Mostly because I was going really fast and dodging the shit of everything more than attacking kept the defense busy for the Craptoritos to do their thing. Scored shit but team won and it was fun.
>>122087767
What a guy. Upset that people see em as cancer.
>>122091946
>>122087767
>nobody cared
kek
>>122052558
>dark RADICAL as GK
>Belkan flag for GK
Hmm.
>>122061687
It seems this pic has some colors wrong. I'm pretty sure some PA intern fucked things up in photoshop. Been a while since I played with my RADICAL YF-23 so can't confirm, but I guess it should be alright the way you dscribed.
Thanks for everything so far.
>>122092597
Shit
Dark RADICAL was supposed to be the GK, Belka as away kit
<<Rise>>
I can't decide what's worse. Metafaggots who fly in a straight line and get shot down all the time in their attackers or Metafaggots who think they can defend and score dead last in their fighters.
I guess the latter because the metafaggots won't be able to dodge in high-spec fighters anyways and will feed kills without doing any ship damage.
>see idolbro's room
>try to join
>Failed to join room
>Failed to join room
>Failed to join room
>5/8
Why do you deny me the only good thing left in this game.
What do I need to do in this game to be accepted?
>>122078441
I honestly wish I could delete my memories of playing AC04 just so I could experience it for the first time again.
>>122095620
Buy fuel goy.
>>122095620
It depends
To be accepted here?
To be accepted on gfaqs?
To be accepted onBamco's inner circle of goys?
>>122095620
Accepted where?
>>122095620
Nothing. You'll never be accepted.
Hated for being bad
Hated for having high MR
Hated for flying your favourite plane just cause it's a metafaggot plane
Hated for not flying a meta plane because it's 'dead weight'
>>122096307
I'm afraid of being judged by my jet choices.
>>122096364
Just fly it. Who gives a shit, people will bitch and moan regardless. Just don't like a plane because it's meta and you won't be a faggot.
This game needs more Phantoms.
I propose adding the Mach 3.2 F-4X (pic related) as a high speed interceptor similiar to the Mig-31.
The F-4 Terminator 2020 as a 725 cost end of tree metaphantom.
The F-4EJ Kai as a phantom equivalent to the F-15J.
EF-4D Wild Weasel IV which would function as an ECM SEAD aircraft.
The F-4 (FV) S because everyone loves variable geometry wings.
And finally the YF-4E high maneuverability Phantom with Fly By Wire, leading edge strats, and canards to improve battlefield agility.
>>122095949
GFags > Be a clubber
ACS > Buy fuel like a goy
Reddit > Be bad
aceg > Circlejerk game is ded
>>122096724
What are the meta planes right now? Maybe my favorite is already meta? B^)
>>122096364
Every jet is buit equal!
Say no to jetism!
>>122096757
Nah. Let's just add a Su-30 Flanker instead.
>>122096921
FB-22, F-15STD, X-02 Whyyy-vern.
>>122096757
Numerous Phantom upgrades rejected by the US air force and US Navy because they threatened sales and funding of the F-15 and F-18 respectively with comparable performance.
>>122096364
I can somewhat understand, but you won't have any fun if you're constantly worried about that.
And at the end of the day, those 6 minutes of shooting at targets 6 times a day can only be repeated for months if you find them fun.
>>122097064
Cocoon shows signs of becoming a favorite for that too.
>>122097316
imo Rafale -VA- has been meta as fuck for a long time. People sleep on LASM when it has enough base damage to one shot AD tanks without parts on normal.
>>122096757
>The F-4 (FV) S because everyone loves variable geometry wings.
Looks like a retarded Tomcat,
I like it.
Doe you think that the next update in ACI is gonna be another boring update ?
>>122099739
More pistons nobody will ever fly.
>>122100006
If they add piston bombers/attackers I'll fly them at least once.
If they add torpedo bombers/dive bombers I will fly them every NTDM.
>>122073882
Rafale a qt3.1415927. Glad to see that Flight Highschool isn't dead.
>>122097732
Yeah, and the -Cocoon- looks to be a better -Vent-. I am not looking forward to this.
![Baka_3924ab_4563505[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/29yObOM.jpg "Baka_3924ab_4563505[1].jpg")
>>122100006
>>122100163
How about Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka or "Baka" the kamikaze aircraft ?
>>122100006
Add Grey Nurse Spitfire and watch me fly that in every room.
I would prefer if they added new bombers. Neglected since their launch. I demand Stratofortress-chan, and only then will I invest in a bomber.
>>122100163
Fun times in Birds of Steel
>>122100642
>Neglected since their launch.
I wonder why.
When does the -CO- drop end? I really want it but the rng is being a bitch.
>>122100574
Looks cute enough to be an idol plane.
>>122101669
Part of me wants it to drop, but the other absolutely hates the meta so I'm probably never flying it anyway. Hell, there's a reason I hate Rafales. All of them.
It's gonna be at the shop sometime so be sure to save those belkanbucks
>>122102805
We don't know that for sure. A-10 -DT- got skipped
>>122103617
That's because the A-10's curves are to sexy for the shop anon.
Inspired by that famous pic
>>122104689
Man, I used to go to borders all the time...
>>122105434
The only adboard we need should say "GAS THE OSEANS RACE WAR NOW"
>>122104689
Brilliant
Now we just need to organize it by the deadline
>>122096757
>more special phantoms ever
sorry guy, prepare for more AC3, maybe X planes
>>122097732
>>122100249
Vent has been meta since it dropped and flown only by STD-tier assholes.
Cocoon will surclass it everywhere, thus becoming the new meta mudrole, which is a bloody shame considered I liked the Cocoon squadron and I have the emblem to fit it.
>>122109952
>Don't fly what I want to fly
You should be thankful it was a random drop and not a goy out top 200 plane with insane level up costs.
>>122104689
>>122105434
Alright, I've got the 2p kit made and I went and made kitmasks too. I stuck everything I've made so far into this zip file:
https://www.mediafire.com/?qqpgh3hux29ooh2
>>122112210
Looking good so far
Is the Pixy Morgan kit up next?
>>122112210
Got it.
>>122115540
Nope, the away kit will be the Belkan flag so we'll make the 2P kit be the goalkeeper's.
Oh, I just noticed the Pixy kit is already among the .dds you sent.
Is it possible to have more than two outfield kits? Because that would solve a lot of problems.
I don't care if the Cocoon becomes the new meta, I plan on flying it. I wanna see how good the LACM is and I haven't flown a Rafale yet.
>>122120063
Same here man, It also gives me a good chance to use the cocoon emblem.
>>122102805
Where did the Rafale touch you?
I'm playing through ace combat 2 right now, gonna try and do the entire game with just the F-4.
Wish me luck.
Things you want back in the belkabux store /aceg/, go.
1: Zipang
2: BuddyMorgan
3: F-2 Nagase (Im not kidding when I say I fucking missed it twice)4: A-10 DT
>>122121030
>ugly as hell
>6AAM shitting
>LASM stronger than attackers
>Vent d'Ange and now the Cocoon fucking everywhere
>>122121751
>>ugly as hell
>Rafale
>Ugly
Hey! Rafale is NOT ugly!
>>122121751
Are you retarded? That was only ever the Vent, and even it's LASMs are now only barely stronger than the vanilla Harrier's thanks to the balancing. Every single other attacker does more damage. Only the Vent was problematic in the past, although the Cocoon will undoubtedly dethrone the Vent.
I started dumping all my credits into the F-20, F-14A, and Harrier because I'm obsessed with U.N. Squadron and I didn't really understand how the game worked at first. I also have a few randomly leveled up aircraft and I bought all upgrades as they became available at first.
Now I realized my mistakes and I'm trying to focus on leveling up the F-14D. Is the F-20 still viable when leveled up? Mine is level 6 right now and it flies amazingly well despite having shit special weapons. The F-14D is level 5 and still handles like shit.
Also is there any way to respec? I'm still obsessed with sticking to Area 88 planes but I wish I could get back the credits that I spent in other planes/branches. I'm bummed that I missed the Area 88 event by a long shot - I want those unique planes and the Area 88 emblems so badly.
When will we be getting the true ACTIVE eagle?As a fighter pls
>>122123494
Just fly your planefu.
With enough love and devotion, almost any plane is viable.
>>122124096
Cool thanks but now I'm spread so thin and I'm broke. Do special events ever happen more than once? I have all these anime girl logos from the last event but I just want the F-20A Shin Kazama or F-14A Mickey Simon of the A-10 Greg Gates. I would trade all the planes I have now just for one of those.
>>122124262
They've already been through the drop cycle. Your only hope is a ticket shop appearance.
They're not much better than the vanilla planes anyway
>>122124262
Those have actually been in the drop cycle twice, so who knows if we'll ever see them again. You're just gonna have to pray.
>>122125026
What, you think Bamco is gonna make new content when we get to the end of the cycle this time?
>>122124892
>>122125026
Well that's good that there's still a chance. Doesn't matter to me if they're not much better, I've been obsessed with U.N. Squadron since I was a kid and the only reason I know Ace Combat even exists is because I was looking up images of the F-20 and saw that it was in the game.
Stumbling on this series was weird. It's like the game I always wanted but I never even knew about it. I've been playing U.N. Squadron all these years wishing for a 3D game and somehow this series slipped by me until a few weeks ago.
Now I just wish it wasn't F2P and I could just pay $60 for the full game and now have to worry about this sortie fuel bullshit.
I'm calling it now in advance, the mobius re-run will be around the next anniversary.
>>122121562
1: Tekken Flankers, as they look awesome. Hopefully, we'll get them in some kind of collab when T7 will be released/can anyone give their opinion on them? I'd like to fly some flankers, but the most I got on that branch is Mig-29
2. BuddyMorgan
3. Yellow flankers, as I'll never get that high in tournament to actually get them.
>>122123494
I got the same problem, now I'm somehow managed to ease up with dispersion on aircraft tree, with goal of getting dem speed parts. Still, I'm broke. Also, Believe in F-14, bro. My lv 12 F-14A can be a fucking beast when I have good day.
>>122125596
The terminator is probably the best all round plane ive flown and its mobility gets pretty crazy fast
>>122125596
>dem typos
damn, I'm tired
>>122125696
Yeah, Terminator is preety sexy. I have -VG- berkut but it's not the same. I guess I'll have to start looking more upwards on my tree.
>working on taking Windhover to 10 as I have Avalanche to 10
>see update
>more AC3 planes possible.
Welp I still have 1.5 million to sit on. F/A-32C Erne/Game/R-Attacker when?
>>122125596
I ditched the F-14A and I've committed to the F-14D now. I was kind of hung up on staying true to the Area 88 aircraft but the F-14D is still close enough that I don't mind. Plus the 6AAM are amazing.
It's just such a huge change going from the F-20 to the F-14. The former is smooth like butter but it looks like the F-14 doesn't start handling well until near level 10. I also wasted a ton of credits on leveling up the Harrier but I trashed that shit for the A-10, which I'm much happier with.
>>122125958
The only main thing that might put you off its that its speed is rather slowish compared to the other warp speed fighters, could always remedy with speed parts but the HVAAs will cover the gap between enemies
>>122126142
>1.5 million
>The new AC3 planes are probably going to be 4m+
Good luck buddy.
>Want to finish aerospace hard challenge
>Make room at 1751 MR
>no one joins
Well shit.
>>122126294
I don't know if that matters. My F-14A has S+ rating of speed and I still get outrunned most of the times.
>>122126316
How do you guys have so many credits? 2 mil drops?
All my gold boxes so far have just been anime girl emblems and x30 tickets. I've been trying to do the special challenges but they take forever without buying stocked fuel and they don't even give that many credits - 30k buys like one upgrade on the tree.
>>122125303
Just find the older games on the PS2. They're infinitely better for actual gameplay and should only run you about 20 bucks if you get lucky
This series is on its last legs now. ACI is just a cash cow Bandai Namco intends to milk dry
>>122126776
>x30 tickets
And now you too understand the joke!
But on the topic of credits, Its more or less just grinding for most of us. The trick is to lock down your research (everything is researched) so you get a money bonus. NTDM gives off a craptonne more money than usual Co-op missions however, so some of us are running that.
>>122126776
Closed research + rank.
It was like this for most people when the game started, so newcomers really have it hard.
With rank colonel #50 or something I'm earning around 30k per sortie in NTDM and 25k in Moscow. It's doable, but will take you some time, unfortunately.
>>122126868
>This series is on its last legs now.
That's incredibly depressing. I'm hooked as hell and I can't believe I've been missing out on this series my whole life. This is seriously the game that I've always wanted, minus the F2P shit.
>>122126919
>>122126927
Thanks, I assumed that stopping research just resulted in lost research opportunities but I'll start cutting back. Buying new planes was such a huge rush though and I'm still eyeing the F-15E even though I stick mostly to the Area 88 planes.
30k per sortie is insane. I definitely need to keep researching my F-14 though because people are destroying me online. I think I actually just got demoted back to beginner - I was slowly climbing to 1500 but then I dropped back to 1450 over the last few days.
>>122126927
Wait, your in game rank affects credit payout?
>>122127653
Greatly,im a colonel 15 and a single sortie usually nets me around 45k,10_k with triples
>>122127653
As far as I know it's the major factor along score. The research bonus is mostly a... bonus.
>>122126316
Considering they let the WHYvern go for 800k, there has to be a balance somewhere. I can see the R-103 going for that much, but something like the R-201 should be cheap because the thing is slow.
>>122127795
Shit, so there's still hope. I'm currently on Captain 20# and I can't get more than 20k when MVP'ing
>>122127554
>This is seriously the game that I've always wanted, minus the F2P shit.
You and everyone else. I've heard a lot of folks say they'd play the shit out of infinity if two things happened: A full campaign (8 missions? What the fuck were they thinking?) or an unlimited fuel pass
But neither will happen. ACI is built in the style of a japanese mobage, designed to milk money by charging for gameplay elements
>>122127978
It is supposed to be balanced - you're a rookie, get money for rookie planes; you're a veteran, get more money for the stupidly expensive late planes. The problem is that except for the early months rookies rarely play among themselves so they get fucked.
>>122128198
Now, as I've read your earlier post once more, I scrached my head while reading "colonel". Then I checked Infinity wiki's page on ranks. Holy shit. I thought all that time that Major is the most you can go.
>brigadier general
Does actually anyone achieved that rank?
>>122128128
I was pretty confused when I saw that there were only 8 missions. I don't think $20 for the unlock is too bad though especially considering that you get 20 stocked fuel as well, but I have to agree that the overall model is so unbelievably shit. I'm just really excited about the game since I'm still relatively new so I haven't become too jaded yet.
I have never put money into any F2P game and I don't even play games that much anymore since I'm too old, but I would've gladly paid $60 for a complete and fully unlocked game. I mean it still would've been cool to level up and unlock in-game shit like special planes and skins, but being limited to 3-4 sorties per day is such a load of shit.
I was actually planning on making my own game before I found out that Ace Combat exists. I bought a bunch of model kits so that I could start creating the 3D CG. I really hope that they release a sequel and that it's not F2P garbage though - it would take me years and years of work to catch up if I created my own game from scratch.
>>122128857
Like I said earlier, it's better to just play the older Ace Combat games if you can get your hands on them. This series has an extremely limited future, barring divine intervention.
>>122128717
>Does actually anyone achieved that rank?
Maybe that one Duck guy who posts those Ace Combat videos. That guy's loadouts are insane. I wish more people uploaded ACI videos though so I could get some different perspectives. The Duck guy gives the impression of having poured hundreds of dollars into this game and it creates an unrealistic standard for me. I'm already annoyed that I found out about this game so late and now I have so much catching up to do.
>>122129120
I'm looking for used copies now and I'm still keeping my fingers tightly crossed for a sequel. Who is going to fill the gap if they cut the cord on this series? I'm sure plenty more people would play if they did more advertising and cut the f2p garbage. Look at me, I'm obsessed with it and I didn't even know it existed until a few weeks ago. They don't do any promotion.
>>122128857
>I really hope that they release a sequel and that it's not F2P garbage though
They kinda did, anon. I was called Assault Horizon. Talking about it in today's standards, it was a trial, whether the AC franchise can get into mainstream and give shekels for Bamco. Even with best financial record out of all entries, I guess it done too little.
>>122129392
>I wish more people uploaded ACI videos though so I could get some different perspectives.
I would if only I had the right setup to record, sadly.
>>122129392
>I'm already annoyed that I found out about this game so late and now I have so much catching up to do.
I stopped playing just after the official launch. I couldn't connect to any game thanks to my shitty dorm internet and CRT tv made all text readable for ants. Then I came back somewhere around May of this year. I got that huge comeback bonus, which helped me a lot. Now, knowing more or less what to do, I think I'd spent it differently, but still, thanks to that I met my true plane-fu.
>>122128857
>I would've gladly paid $60 for a complete and fully unlocked game
Many people would. But considering a lot of them spent more than $100 for competitive tournaments like Mobius One and we have people like Duck who spent more than 4000 bucks (I can only wonder how much money Tanaka makes to feed his ACI addiction), it's easy to see which path Bamco should take to get more profit.
>>122128717
>Does actually anyone achieved that rank?
See above. Colonel #50 here, I've been playing since day one with two months of absence and missing a few days every week. These guys playing everyday and actively buying fuel should already be drowning in credits.
>>122129392
>Who is going to fill the gap if they cut the cord on this series?
Nobody. Nobody really fills the market for arcade flight games because that market doesn't really exist any more. Sure, Gaijin and Wargaming have their games, but War Thunder is a shitfest of balancing and low playerbase, and World of Warplanes is a living joke.
>They don't do any promotion.
Because they don't see any future for the franchise. The last proper standalone game was Assault Horizon, a test to see if AC could go mainstream. It was apparently by and large a failure, and so Bamco put out ACI to milk what it could from the community.
They know the fanbase is tiny, and that they'll play any Ace Combat Bamco can push out. Bamco doesn't care about getting new players, just milking old ones dry, then killing the series
>>122129683
You can get an SD capture card for pretty cheap. A used HD capture card could still be had for cheap. Hell I love this game so much that I've even watched shitty cam recordings just to see some planes in action. Now I wish some people would live stream it.
>>122130071
That fucking blows. The fighting game franchise was really tiny too at one point but they still pushed for SF4 and that game revitalized the entire scene. Maybe the series will die but I'm still hoping really hard that some other company steps up to fill the gap some day soon. This is seriously the game that I've wanted my whole life and the icing on the cake is the Area 88 collaboration.
>>122129392
As an addendum, duck has literally spent his way to the top of the game, and is infamous for creating rooms specifically so his high-spec planes can stomp all over new players
He also got banned from a few ranking events for using alts to fish for raids
>>122130754
Relevant: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvqidArm-uA
>>122130754
Well I guess it's good that he threw money at the game so that the series at least has a remote chance of a future but he sounds like a dick. It took me a while to realize realize that the number to the right of nicknames is the matching rate and that there is a massive difference between 2000 and 1500, but now I see all these ~2000 players creating games with the "beginners welcome" message or joining lobbies where the average is <1500, and they clean up every single target before most people have a chance to get even a single kill.
>>122131346
Game's been like that a for a while
It's because the way it's designed favors personal score above all else, even completion rank.
So people sealclub with 2000+ MR beginners welcome rooms, ultra optimized planes, and throw their wallets at Bamco to pay for more fuel
>>122131685
I'm still confused as to how anyone can rank that highly. I know I'm awful at the game but I've gotten a lot better since I've started and I still can't breach 1500.
It especially sucks when I unlock a new plane and have to work on leveling it up. That's when I start drastically losing points and averaging only ~20k at best per sortie. Getting a new plane that I've had my eye on is exciting but playing catch up is always a bummer.
I just can't wait til I have at least one plane that maneuvers half as well as the shit I've seen on Duck's channel. Sometimes watching him play is so stupid - he just instalocks on a target 20 miles away, spams missiles, does an extremely sharp turn, reloads immediately, and continues firing away. It's like he doesn't even have to think about anything or put forth any effort, meanwhile I'm still making very fine movements and attacking with the vulcan cannon on top of missiles just to secure one target.
>MDP 1
>Delay the final atta-
>MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
>THE FUCKING BOT BLEW THE COCKPIT
OH MY GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A MYTH.
>>122130675
I stream ACI pretty regularly, and was streaming a runthrough of AC2 earlier.
I only stream for people I know though, I'm not interested in commentary or getting e-famous.
>>122132617
For me a lot of the metagame is just damage threshholds. Use the builder to fight out what size warheads you need to one shot what tier enemies, and then everything else is preference.
>>122132934
>I'm not interested in commentary or getting e-famous
I think that's exactly how streaming should be done. I also hate facecams and people talking over important parts of the game. I just like to be immersed and I like watching good players so that I can learn from them and see cool planes in action.
I followed ACI on Twitch but I haven't seen a single stream.
>>122127958
No.
Morgan, Falken and Whyvern were a thing, after that every lane has been 4.5 Mil, except X-49 which is 8.9 or something like that.
Nosferatu were supposed to cost like the falken and still went for the 4.5.
>>122132617
Don't compare yourself to Duck, really. Most of the whales are not good players and only rely on their machines being too superior to the oponents - the stories about them getting fucked in TDMs are not an exaggeration.
That said, the game is tailored to reward speed, so missile spamming and going fast will give you good results regardless of the skill involved. This is the reason I loved piston TDM and PAT so much, because you have to actually be good at flying in them.
>>122133216
Ah, that's probably because I stream irregularly (Usually when I get home from work and have time to play,) on hitbox, and usually forget to indicate what game I'm actually streaming today.
I wouldn't call myself a good player either, I'd say I'm about average.
>>122133172
I feel like sometimes there's not much you can do. I just unlocked the A-10 and I love it for what it is, but at level 1, there's nothing that I can do about being unable to one shot a lot of targets. It's also annoying that the special weapon is such a tiny area and doesn't even 1 shot most targets, and you only start out carrying 4.
>>122133293
I'm trying to adapt to some of the styles I've seen. I usually try to go fast now unless I'm going full attacker A2G. Sometimes I get lucky and do well but a good game for me is still breaking 30k.
>>122133573
I'll keep an eye out. I'm trying to watch other people so that I can get better, and even an average player is still way ahead of me. I only just recently got the hang of expert controls.
>>122132617
Duck's secret is that he earned that MR by clubbing new players to death
He's a shit player, as you recognize, but his plane is miles above those he clubs, so he gains MR points based on artificially inflated performance
<<Rise>>
It was nice to have a not ded thred for once
Any tips for getting S rank in campaign? I got S in the first two missions I think, but after that, I can only get A. I usually get to targets before Ridgebacks so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is there a bonus for clearing within a certain time limit?
Also are there any secrets for Butterfly Master? The UAVs shoot down all of my missiles for like the first 2 minutes and it's already incredibly hard to hit them given how jerky they move.
>>122136238
You need to pass a certain score and time requirement
>>122136238
TLS the BM ignore the drones.
>>122136238
>Also are there any secrets for Butterfly Master?
Take a piston plane. I'm not kidding.
>>122137287
What. You have got to be kidding me, how the hell does ecm affect those drones?
>>122138036
It doesn't. Just gun her down.
Did everyone just get disconnected from PSN just now?
>>122136238
Stack homing parts and try to kill as most drones as you can. Eventually your wingmen will kill them anyway but you need to be as fast as possible (the S rank for this is more time-related than score). Then kill the Aigaion ASAP, just gor for the red targets.
>>122138036
The guns on the Piston have extremely high DPS so Camilla who usually relies on lasers to not get hit immediately gets torn to shreds.
>>122138460
Screen went black, I thought my PS3 had crashed, had to hard reset to get out. Back on now.
>>122138460
I'm still on.
>>122138460
Yes it went derp for 10 minutes or so. I saw brain and ekirbo get affected too.
is there a decent guide to getting all the missions in Joint assault?
All that talk about ACI videos made me want to start making videos of ACI. Like, really really want to do it, to the point where I might actually buy an HD capture card and actually do it. If I do end up doing it, would there be any specific things anybody here would like to see? I'll try to keep them in mind if I do go through with the plan, but I'd like to reinforce that I ain't 100% committed to doing it.
>>122143662
Not ACI, make videos of AC2. Make em long plays too.
>>122143870
Do you actually want me to do that? Because I don't see anything that would stop me from doing that easily, so I'd be totally down for that. I've yet to play AC2, anyway.
>Team is three fighters including me and the attacker
>Noone switches out by 5s left
>ok, I switch to Oruma lvl 10 with RKTL
>I get killed by a flanker
>Spawn on top of the enemy FB-22, in the middle of his inflection point
>Shoot missiles, not enough to kill
>RKTL
> [[DESTROYED]]
>ATD-0 (which I know was cst 2400+ from previous match he was on my team) tries to down me since my fighters are busy defending the fleet (and doing a good job of it, I might add)
>Doesn't know that since I'm carrying RKTL, I have full homing on
>Shoot down the ATD-0
<< Should you be letting me distract you? >>
1 Stocked fuel.
Only scored 29k that match, but completely worthwhile
>>122145848
The world needs more long plays, and more videos of good games.
>>122121562Fuel
>>122146245
What is a long play?
I'm currently on mission 7 of my first AC2 play through and I have two HD capture cards within arms reach, I might be interested in hearing more.
What happened to that tripfag doing the aircraft tree? The last one I have is from months ago.
>>122146463
I think it's pretty much record your gameplay, then post online
No commentary, no video editing, just record, process, upload
>>122146570
Well that's not too hard. I've been livestreaming the first couple missions as is.
Ok /aceg/.
You can only listen to one ace combat song for the rest of your life, it will become the soundtrack to your life, you'll hear it 24/7 365.
What song do you pick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAskjHzaobg
>flying nagase
>enemy team has nagase
>head to head,wasn't planning on shooting him down,wanna play chicken before we pummel our fleets
>pass,he turns back and fires on me
>forced to shoot down nagase brother
>tfw
>>122146946
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUoAriRp_Q
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJ7ZccBCJc
Definately this.
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvakINjeGvA
HE'S ALWAYS ON THE ROAD YEAHHHHHH
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Js_nL0aXI
>NTDM
>some 1500 MR guy joins
>said nugget is teammate
>HPAA Phantom, basic set, no parts, Warrant Officer nick
>guy scores exactly 200 points
Oh god. Worst is that we almost won by managing to decimate their fleet by myself with Ami (SPW enhancement M and damage L is terrifying) and thanks to the point piñata bomber from the rivals. Also shot down a Buddy Morgan that chased our rookie for 3 times, so it was satisfying in the end. Then..
>go bomber
>rival has MGP Fishbed
That thing was deadly. We obviously lost.And even then I managed to get the top score in my team with two fucking 2000+cst FB-22s, for fucks sake.
>>122141526
Not that I know of. Be warned a lot of them depend on co-op to be unlocked.
>>122146946
https://youtu.be/xBKYNJpNye8?t=1m29s
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X5BZYLrk1Q
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKLXFcCsDFg
Just because holy shit that intro and revamped drums. Truly the best version of Dogfight.
>>122148214
Why have I never heard this version of dogfight before. Its fucking beautiful.even though the game it came from was shit
>>122143662
I'd like to see all the missions beginning to end S rank with beginner/average planes. If you have any Area 88 planes, I like to see those in action.
>>122146946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRnKDR6KrE
This is the most arcade-y and badass out of all the songs. It's also the closest to the U.N. Squadron music, which is how all these types of games should be.
>>122148773
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUmIAs89n0
Brace for impact
>>122149170
The original version has too much of a Wave Race vibe to it. The original version is like You're the Best by Joe Esposito but the remix is like The Boys Are Back in Town.
>>122149363
That's... interesting. Most people hated the remix when the game came out. There's a bit of nostalgia anyway, but I really can't stand that first bit before the music kicks in.
Then again, I'm a bit biased since Shattered Skies is still my damn favorite mission in the whole series. It had everything right.
>>122149615
>but I really can't stand that first bit before the music kicks in
Sometimes you gotta embrace the shitty parts because they make the awesome parts all the more awesome when you finally get there. When they pull the plug on this franchise, I'm gonna make my own game with the sickest music ever, channeling the UN Squadron soundtrack.
>>122149615
To be honest, I feel the comona remix and stonehenge remix fit the chaos that is infinity better than the original songs would if they used those instead.
Now for something different.
I'm trying to make the custom faces for most players who we know how they look like but it's rather difficult (Chopper is horrible right now). Got some cool surprises incoming though.
>>122152285
Cool. Doubt you're gonna be able to see those faces underneath the helmets though.
>>122152763
>helmets
Fucking uncultured Americans
>>122152763
>Helmets
>In divegrass
Burgerclap pls go, handegg season is onn
>>122152840
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
>>122152763
The flight helmets would be for the faceless players, be it aces or memes. If /aceg/ is alright with it we can just make everyone have them, provided we don't kill Smugleaf from exhaustion to create them from scratch as the models I found didn't work with blender.
>>122152285
>implying Belka is Germany when Nevada = B7R and Belka was north of there
Belka wasCanadaall along
>>122153101
>I was merely pretending to not know
>>122153062
I was referring to the pilot helmets you ass.
>>122153202
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
Come on
>/aceg/
>>122153186
Hmm, I never thought of the nationalities. Could try to find the correspondences (actually, Pixy isn't from Belka, right?) but should be easier just to make everyone nipponese and call it a day.Of course I'm not doing it, even though it should avoid the discussion about Gryphus being from Brazil or Argentina.
>>122153713
derp
>>122153713
>Pixy isn't from Belka, right?
His nationality in the canon is Belkan... So....
>>122154293
Eh, you're right. Thought he was from Ustio. Been a while since I played Zeroand never finished it for some reason. Ought to correct this soon.
If anyone wants to help with the nationalities, be my guest.
Next update will be entirely pistons, I can see it happening.
>>122154583
We don't really have much
Wardog is entirely Osean
Pixy is Belkan
Everything else is guesswork, besides our resident ACAH players
I'd say just go by what you can from the voice, and make aces from the closest analogues you can imagine
>>122155197
Cipher is a demon from the north sea.
>>122080730
No fuck off kek
>Time to spend my daily supplied
>Room's filled up, everyone ready to go
>Time to earn some credits
>Loading
>Loading
>Loading
>Connection to PSN lost
>>122154583
>>122155197
Huckebein is Belkan
Heartbreak One is Osean
Grabacr and Ofnir are Belkan
Wizard and Sorcerer are Osean
Rot, Gelb, Grun, Gault, Schnee, Schwarze and Indigo are Belkan
Garuda is entirely Emmerian
Strigon is entirely Estovakia
>>122154583
Scarface is entirely Usean
Mobius and SkyEye are Usean
Gryphus is Aurelian
Camilla is an ayylium
Jean-Louis is Erusean
Omega is Australian I think? [citation needed]
>>122157256
>Camilla is an ayylium
You motherfucker. I kek'd.
>>122157256
Thought Omega was Pakistani, he looks the part
>>122157537
British then.
>Shoot a fighter in the back when he's defending his fleet
>Fuck off to the side of the map out of way of everything
>He goes after me
>Attackers get free reign
Why do people give into hate so easily?
>>122157256
You ckeeky bastard! That was actually funny.
>>122147665
I know 04 had blue skies
5 had the journey home
Did the other games have these cooldown songs? I can't remember zero or 6.
Anybody else find the respawn annoying? I shoot down an attacker after 180 from the initial joust then go to the enemy fleet to catch him respawning.
He appears on my radar literally 2-3seconds from my fleet when there's a 10s+ gap between fleets.
I get the slight spawn invulnerability but this shit is ridiculous sometimes.
Hey, all this talk about capture cards and streaming got me motivated.
Would anyone be interested in watching a live playthrough of the PS2 trilogy? No commentary, just gameplay. I'll even let you guys pick what planes I take on a per mission basis.
I'll start with 4 tomorrow, see how far I can get. and then continue from there as scheduling permits.
>>122158269
6 had A Brand New Day
Zero had Epilogue - Near The Border
>>122158269
>>122159417
Don't forget X with that amazing Ace Combat elevator music/Bossa Nova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrB_Fd-USCA
>run ECM Morgan
>force enemy fighters to score less than 20k each
>host disconnects as friendly team gets bombers
Plenty of <<Come on!>> moments jousting a Mobius and Su-35.
My one mistake in NTDM is ever believing my teammates aren't retarded.
>get bullied as an attacker by the host
>we still win
>i want some revenge
>they have a B-2
>didn't get to bully the host but I did mvp
I also got my -CO- that round. Now I can sleep soundly.
>Team is FB-22, 2x LASM Hornets, ATD-0
>FB-22 switches to Su-37 because 2 multiroles do enough attacker damage right?
>Enemy team has 2x FB-22s
Of course we get absolutely shitstomped.
>The Su-37 only got 2k points
You metafaggot piece of shit. Stop thinking you can fighter.
>no enemy defenders
>I can MG ships for sick DPS
>MG battlecruiser with no SAM systems
>Fires 6 missiles that instantly down me
>only death on team
feels bad mang.
>>122162821
>The Su-37 only got 2k points
Holy shit, what was this guy's plane cost, fucking 800?
>>122163428
1950
>>122163225
Sometimes I feel like battlecruisers in NTDM can fire as many missiles as it damn wants as long as they're enough to kill you on the spot.
>reaper and a mobius on my team
>both of them ignore the FB-22 attacking our fleet
>we lose and the FB-22 ends up with 80k points and both goyfaggots with less then 15k.
fucking goys man.
i don't even know what i'm fighting for anymore. NTDM just isn't fun when I get either attackers that don't dodge and feed cruise missiles, people who switch to shit team compositions or attackers who think they're a top ace and can actually fighter. I've lost 5 games in a row completely out of my control.
> come home from work with a bad head cold and a long shift
> take nyquil on top of my other meds and try to sleep
> wake up two hours later in a cold sweat, feeling dazed and confused
> remember I have 2 fuel, jump in a tdm lobby still dazed
> whyvern, buddy plane, and razer bone on the other team
> worry that I'm going to feed so hard in my current state
> flying lvl 9 1790 cst f-22
> going through the match, game feels like it's running 60fps and I'm dancing with enemy fighters pretty easily.
> somehow manage to not only win, but not get shot down once, in both matches while high on nyquil.
I wish I could fly this well all the time.
>>122165238
Nyquil is the answer to all our problems. If we all start taking Nyquil before going up against meta fags, we'll always beat them!
>>122165238
You know what you have to do
I've been getting pretty good at toss bombing MGPBs.
I have a new goal: Bomb enhancement Kit L and Bomb damage L on my Razor.
>>122165850
Do you want me to spoil your fun now or would you like to learn for yourself?
>>122166141
...
Please, share your hard earned wisdom.
Apparently piston craft actually make pretty decent defensive craft for very cheap.
While they can't go toe to toe against fighters, they can still hit bombers and their ECM pods make it annoying for the enemy team.
>>122166875
Go read the descriptions for the various bomb damage upgrade parts then come back and read the spoiler. Maybe you'll see it.Note how they say bomb "special" weapon. Guess what your MGPB isn't?
>>122167390not him, but fuck that's painful
>>122167390
And if you've ever flown a bomber, you'll know it works for MGPBs.
>>122167665
This. B1 can't one shot avalon gun towers at L1 without bomb parts but can with.
dunno wtf OP is on about.
>>122167665
Sure about that? Because whenever I tried to do it on my MAGM set the parts were grayed out and trying to equip them says that they'll have no effect.
>>122167930
>>122167930
>MGPB
>MAGM
Doh!
>>122168045
Is there something wrong with what I said?
>>122167930
100% positive it works. Might just be a visual error because bamco effort coding.
>>122168110
Of course bomb parts do not work on missiles.
>>122168110
What does the B stand for and what does the M stand for?
>>122168172
You probably shouldn't be saying things like
>And if you've ever flown a bomber
When it's pretty clear that you've never even looked at a bomber.
I'm a nice guy, so I'll even tell you where you screwed up.
MGPBs are the standard weapon on bombers. There's no such thing as a bomber flying without MGPBs. It's literally impossible.
>>122168308
>When it's pretty clear that you've never even looked at a bomber.
>I'm a nice guy, so I'll even tell you where you screwed up.
>MGPBs are the standard weapon on bombers. There's no such thing as a bomber flying without MGPBs. It's literally impossible.
the fuck son. i never brought up this MAGM shit. i just said the bomb parts work because if you put them on a bomber, you'll notice the effect on MGPBs.
>>122168308
It wasn't me, but the bomb parts work on my Razor, maybe they are greyed out because you do not have spare slots after buffing the missiles?
>>122168308
I'm not a nice guy so I'll just tell you to not be retarded and learn to read.
So you shouldn't be saying this kind of stuff when your comprehension skills are shit-tier.
>All players welcome
hahahaha
as expected he kicked me after i joined.
>>122171321
you know what I enjoy about NTDM over regular sorties? being able to actively deny clubbers points without taking points away from any other players.
>>122171321
Oh hey it's that guy who kicks me on sight in any co-op game
Goyplanes are getting ridiculous. I'm flying a L11 ATD and this.. Goddamn. That's 5 missiles worth of HP.
Spent a total of 100 fuel.
Total earnings
6.5m credits
2x Level cap+ forms
900 tickets
0 stocked fuel
76,500 credits drop
I was hoping for some fuel refunds so I can save for another tournament but I'll take the forms.
>>122173869
>Spent a total of 100 fuel.
>0 stocked fuel
Holy fuck and here I thought MY luck was bad.
>MiG-21
>1895 cst
>MGP
>has four (4) missile parts equipped
Glad he's on my team.
JOHN CENA.......EMBLEM AND MVP MUSIC WHEEEENN !!??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mah_0Y8TU
